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Start Me Up: Comedian Andy Kindler · Start Me Up with Kimberley A. Johnson

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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the Start Me Up podcast part of MSW Media and the sexy liberal podcast network.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host Kimberley Johnson in DC.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Today my returning guest is comedian Andy Kindler.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a while since he's been on the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We love him so much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You recognize him from everybody loves Raymond.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was in a bunch of things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was in hacks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was in Marin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was in sirens.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just the list goes on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love Andy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a munch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, please enjoy my conversation with Andy Kendler.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to the show, Andy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, I mean, that was boy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never seen a certain kind of a... No, in the old days, when things were more massage-genistic, I suppose it today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hostess was a word.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was the most.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I refused and people look at me funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Still can we find my go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's a great actor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I always said actor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I was like, what do you say doctorists or lawyerists?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, you say doctor a lawyer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stand up comedian.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's terrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No one needs that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so fun to talk to you because it's been a while and you're one of my favorite years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's been a long time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then like we were talking before the show started, and this is an all-why.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I think the last time you were on my show is 23 in 2023.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was post, I guess, post, I can't think of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: P.P.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or A.P.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A.P.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or A.P.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Before a pig or after a pig, so, well, you know, and of course my listeners know this all too well, but I'll just ask you what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like as my state, last November was fucking bad, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a knot in my stomach for six weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was terrified, you know, I was talking to my boyfriend, Bob, and I'm like, what if, you know, are we gonna speak out against a fascist government?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, is that what we're doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I used to live in Russia, so I was totally afraid, and blah, blah, blah,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, now we're kind of going in a different direction, but I just kind of want to touch on where were you and your wife when this whole thing happened, you know, how are you dealing with it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, again, again, it was a horrible surprise and we were very, very depressed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my wife is, uh, my wife doesn't want me to be dragged away by Trump, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she knows and she knows that I can,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes it's not self sabotage, but sometimes I can feed into it or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I just decide there's no reason to I just kind of went South a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I didn't talk about Trump at all and things because I didn't you know, if your wife's upset that you're going to get round it up
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[SPEAKER_00]: She might have a point, and that's not the best way to have a, you know, that's not the bravest, but not the best way to stage your revolution.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we were very, very sick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say for about six or seven or eight months, a Paul hung over us, a Paul.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the last few years, I've come to believe in God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a unpopular with the comics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I started to believe in God, but this really, this really
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[SPEAKER_02]: But so interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to have a conversation with you about spirituality.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm another show because I'm going to spirituality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it's I say like an idiot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And your spiritual tone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's funny that you say that because literally from, I think it's like the end of 2019, I started this, call it like a spiritual journey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I hate that word.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hate all the new age terminology.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think spiritual is should be an every day where it should, yeah, last past all this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and it's like, and I've, I actually think I have figured out how we manifest and it's funny because people think that it's like we will magic bullshit and it is in it's literally just about our identities and how we choose and what you know what we believe is true and based on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: what our choices are and then our choices kind of play out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So everything happens in your imagination first and then it kind of like plays out and it's complicated but still I just I think it's interesting that you've got so you know yeah you know the interesting thing is um not the interesting thing that's always a killer
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the interesting thing, but the non-interesting thing is that, you know, I, my feeling is that I've come to believe, there's so many things from 12-step programs that are just so great, so God grant me the serenity to accept the right, to accept the, I already forgot it, I said, who accept, things like, cannot change the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom of the difference.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm doing, you know, I have some friends who are talking about stuff, and it's like, I believe in
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do believe, and without being a formally trained, because I was raised to you or so, how do you know, how you can enjoy that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really very depressing religion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then of course, then the Jews had to, and now we're all associated with nothing, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing is, is that all these things that sounded like cliche before the kingdom of heaven is within and the truth, it is true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the idea that if I'm to the point where my feelings
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[SPEAKER_00]: are ruining every single one of my days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It starts to become on me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for me, I've been plagued by OCD.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Since my early 20s, I take pros act now, which is a remarkable drug for OCD.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I can catastrophize with the best of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, me too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So have I I've been able to you know I've been getting out of that that's in one of the reasons I was interested in it as well And it's it's funny because there's a swim and I listen to I post her videos a lot her name is Angela But she goes by park rose permaculture and on YouTube and one of the things she was talking about
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[SPEAKER_02]: was, and she was reading it from, and I'm not going to get this woman's name right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Rebecca Scone, Scone, I can't remember her last name.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you talking about the one who used to be Crooks and liars?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Root, shone, cough, maybe?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, it's like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's like, no, it's, but anyway, the whole point of this was she was saying help, and she was kind of tying it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to our reaction to the fascists and what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But she said, you know, it's remarkable how many people are so quick to jump into the worst case scenario and live there in their mind.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of jumping, like when you don't know what's going to happen, right, we don't know what's going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so so many people are saying we're doomed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's over, we're cooked, democracy is dead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like her point is so many people are so willing to jump into that worst case scenario and live there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: where anything can happen and you know you don't necessarily have to set it in still like we're going to get out of this I mean that's what I believe but yeah I agree with you we are going to get out of it and I think it'll be a final you know the best case scenarios is going to be a final nail on the coffin
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[SPEAKER_00]: all of this maga at a parola bullshit of like comics, you know, thinking free speech is just saying uh, I hate Muslims or whatever the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think it's a real reckoning for the right wing, but of course things going cycle so who knows what's going to happen, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Bruce Bader Ginsburg did say the Pendulum always swings both ways and it does.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And even though we had a break with Joe Biden as president, it wasn't like the Pendulum swung back because it was, I think the Pendulum includes like the public sentiment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And even though yes, there were a number of people, eight million more people or whatever the number was that voted for Biden.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We still stayed in that energy with the Trumpism and that was there at the entire time and we saw it play out in the midterms and everything But I do believe you're right like I think it's getting to a point now because that that first term He had guardrails and he doesn't anymore and so people had the memory of those guardrails And of course then they forget a lot of things too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They forget one six and all that crap, but yeah, I want to ask They'll have a knowledge one six
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, they don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or if they do, it's like they come up with some fucking weird twest pretzel twisting logic and you're just like, what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you end up with this guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you end up with this guy, Jay Johnston, who I did a lot of work with on Bob's burgers and other stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't have imagined a million years of this guy would be a maga guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, the guy who got arrested and then they, of course, Trump pardoned him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, it's just so gross.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the only thing I really worry about though right now is I just every time I see you know, anybody who will Latino looking or anything, I just realize that these people are being rounded up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't make me stop me from going outside, but it does make me look around this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you know, you know, a woman, so there's that, you know, not that I'm afraid of being rounded up per se, but I do speak out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, there's that, and then, you know, being a woman as a scary thing, and I think that as we know, they're rounding up American citizens, so you don't even have to be a person of color.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, you know, when I'm walking around my community, which is very diverse, I live in a very diverse part of Maryland.
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[SPEAKER_02]: in Maryland.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm like the DC area.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, everybody's here, all cultures.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I, you know, it's interesting to me because I worry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, okay, I'm a white woman with blonde hair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Please don't think I'm a Trump supporter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I always, you know, feel like I don't want anyone to think that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could be accused.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could be accused.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just because I'm like, I'm alien.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I look Aryan and it's like, no, I'm not one of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I noticed around my area really so many people of color, it doesn't matter where they're from, what their nationalities are or at least their heritage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody seems to be upbeat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's interesting to me that because I get, like, I worry, and I look around and I feel like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, even if I'm in a bad mood, when I walk into a store, I do my best to take that bad mood away and just be friendly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I know that, you know, there are fucking asshole white people being rude to everybody and I don't want to be one of those.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to be friendly, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think is you just have to be careful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So for example, I'm not throwing a sandwich or anybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I love that guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that guy and I totally should.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing is, I know, I was afraid of the cops when I was just smoking pot and driving up to college in 1975 and being pulled over by the cops once, and I had weed, and he lined us up three of us, and I was in the middle and he goes, who's weed is this, and both of my friends turned and looked towards me and told me out, and then I started crying, I said, I'm a sophomore, I'm a sophomore, I'm a sophomore, I'm a sophomore, I'm a sophomore, I'm a sophomore, I'm a sophomore,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they let me go, but you know, I had so many close calls like that someone dropped me off to hitchhike on the New England on the New Jersey through way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my god to hitchhike to a dead concert.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I did the Ige many bullets.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So did I I absolutely you know, I'll just tell you this one story and this was just because I was pretty, you know, I was young.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like 21 22 and I was on my I was driving through Beverly Hills and I was on my way to a mall.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to sell perfume and
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to remember the mall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's a self-parking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, self-parking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that what you did?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm self-parking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was probably the Beverly Center.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But either way, I was driving through the neighborhoods of Beverly Hills and just breaking every law.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There were kids playing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was speeding.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I wasn't speeding speeding, but I was going faster than the speed limit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever that was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, so let's say this feeling was 35.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was going maybe 45 and ignoring stop signs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just, you know, breaking every though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then this really hot babe cop pulled me over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he was a babe and so and I was all dressed up for work, you know, and again, young long blonde hair and I'm just like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I even said something stupid like I was just kidding and he looks at me and he's you know He goes over the situation and he goes you know what today is my birthday But you're gonna get the present And he's so great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd say I got my looks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean it didn't always work One time a woman pulled me over and I was I like went into this whole food parking lot because I was gonna go into the store And I was like you know it was getting ready to get out of the car She's like please stay in the car, ma'am
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was just like, but I'm gonna go shopping after this, please stay in the car, ma'am.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh my god, she'll the fuck out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you don't always get out of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're white during all of this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You would be stories that would be told in history.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You would not be here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, I've discussed my privilege before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, I did not ask for it, and I do not deserve it, although we all deserve it, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We all deserve it, but not everybody gets it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well, I want to switch it over because I want to ask you about Bill Mar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I posted, you know, like Bill Mar has made his career out of being a dick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now he's winding and complaining that he can't perform anywhere, because both sides are gonna get angry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I took out his face both sides.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe a bull.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know, let's just bag on Bill Mark for a little while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I've known him for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was back at Comedy Central in the late 80s when he was workshopping his show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's always been a tremendous asshole.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Once I was at this, I was hosting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm seeing like a, a benefit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like after my friend Judy, our friends, Judy Toldide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we were having a big memorial for her and Carol Lee for which friends of her and Carol Lee for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was talking to my friend Bill Mar the other day and then so I come up after because I'm seeing and I said, that's the first time I've ever heard someone use Bill Mar and friend in a sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a raging, raging asshole.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's never been that good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not a good stand-up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have good taste.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, and so, and he's a horrible person who goes to, you know, and the fact that he keeps trying to spin how he would go visit Trump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just shows that he's not particularly, and I say this because I went to, he went to Cornell or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I went to Binghamton, so he went to a better school, but he's not particularly, he's willfully stupid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He really is willfully stupid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So all the stuff he believes about anti-walking stuff like that, he's just getting that from the right wing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he just, you know, it's like, you know, or he just a mean bastard, because all the stuff he says about trans people, but beyond that, he's also anti-vax.
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[SPEAKER_00]: these years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a conspiracy theorist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just feel like this is a, I said this once in someone say, stop saying that I go, it's delicious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's happened?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't say that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a delicious moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is absolutely delicious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I hope that he ends up in an even smaller club random.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Club like a small, like a four by six
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my dad worked for ABC News and I guess they were interviewing him and he was an asshole to my father And it's funny because you know, there was a time I watched him religiously.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't necessarily like him But I like it though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Would you want to say we all did exactly show at the time that seemed like it had something going on that they could talk about stuff
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's like he was a dick still, but you kind of overlooked his arrogance because, you know, he had great guests on, and occasionally he did make a really good point, and you would agree with him, and then he gave a Barack Obama a million dollars, and so you're just like, I was so serving though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's always something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What person?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think Letterman gives money to this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think Letterman ever say, hey, my friend George Weller is very sick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just gave a million dollars to a hospital for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, because they believe in comes to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It has manners.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I can't pay the million dollars.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who cares?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, oh my god, in 2004, I think, no, 2002.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got invited to this party.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was an A-list party in Hollywood, and I went up, well, I don't know where it was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was Beverly Hills or somewhere, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was in the Hills, somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I went by myself, which was odd, but I did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Bill Mar was there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody was there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like every famous person in the world was there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At the time, I think it was Ryan and Ferra were there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Heath Ledger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Ryan, no, Neil.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Neil and Ferra Fossett.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Heath Ledger was there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bill Mar was there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what's this name?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The guy Alan Thick, who was like, oh my God.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This it's like the funniest story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was totally undressing me with his eyes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I did not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did not want to look at him because I can see I could see what he was doing.
17:50
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and he was wearing this cat like a what he call it.
17:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Like what they were on a boat that the boat clothing that's just the name is escaping me right now.
18:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you know he hit of some kind.
18:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah like the nautical.
18:03
[SPEAKER_02]: He like had the whole nautical thing going.
18:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And he was totally looking at me.
18:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was so funny because let me just
18:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Bill Mar was at that party so I was just going to bring that up and Bill Mar passed me and I remember I thought he was gross and this was prior to my political engagement but I remember just thinking, oh and you know and he just walked by me and then so years later because it was 2004 so in 2014
18:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I was... Was it 2014?
18:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it was, or 2012, that's what it was, because it was when a Barack Obama was running.
18:41
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was the spokesperson for Rock the Slut vote.
18:48
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I can't remember, I think I was watching Bill Mar, and Alan Thick was on, and I'm like, oh my god, I saw both of them, or party ten years ago.
18:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So I friended Alan Thick on Facebook.
19:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I sent him a DM.
19:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And I totally, he's no longer with us.
19:06
[SPEAKER_02]: But I said, how did I say it?
19:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of ordered it as if I was flirting with him.
19:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, you know, years ago, we were at a party.
19:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, how did we cross out our eyes matter?
19:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Something's something dumb.
19:18
[SPEAKER_02]: But I just said, we never got the opportunity to speak, you know.
19:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I just was like really friendly.
19:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he, you know, and then I think I told him about rock the slut vote.
19:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And I wanted to get on Bill Mar.
19:29
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I said, you know, like, do you have it?
19:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I just saw you on Belmore.
19:34
[SPEAKER_02]: It was totally praising him and kissing his ass.
19:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, can you tell me how to get in touch, whoever.
19:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So he gave me the producer's name.
19:42
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it was so funny because then I totally Hollywood spended it.
19:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And I sent the producer.
19:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like,
19:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, what's this name, who I just said, Alan thick, just recommended I get in touch with the hidden recommend, but that's what I said.
19:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I got considered for the show.
19:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I was, you know, who they chose?
20:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Who?
20:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was the fucking culture?
20:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
20:04
[SPEAKER_02]: It was the show right before the election.
20:06
[SPEAKER_02]: How did I guess that?
20:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't believe it.
20:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I read my mind.
20:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And so what I did, I can't believe I did this, but I chewed out the producer afterwards.
20:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, you know what?
20:16
[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't have to have me on.
20:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a big nobody, and I know it, but why do you have to have fucking an altar?
20:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't you have more on women, and I just totally chewed them out?
20:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And what did he say?
20:24
[SPEAKER_02]: He said nothing.
20:26
[SPEAKER_02]: He ignored me.
20:28
[SPEAKER_02]: So I yelled at him.
20:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So, that's my little Bill Mar story.
20:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he deserves, whatever the words that we have to look up for hideous, sleazy and odious and just poorly informed, just badly informed and just like thinking an eagle maniacal narcissist that well, Trump had me over for dinner, so he's good.
20:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, he didn't say anything mean to me.
20:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't say Jimmy Kimmel didn't thank me for standing up for him.
21:00
[SPEAKER_02]: What kind of a more what kind of a Great Fuck it asshole is here.
21:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right?
21:08
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let me ask you this one.
21:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you watch the any do you like any Murphy.
21:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you watch being Eddie on Netflix?
21:14
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, I like any Murphy, but I like him in like I like them in 40 hours and yeah coming to America and I like them on Saturday night, but I have no interest and my friend Josh said it was pretty bad.
21:27
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a self serving.
21:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it was self-serving and his house is ridiculous, but I thought it was kind of interesting.
21:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, my friend Josh, who, I do a podcast with Josh Weinstein, he is, he's done his own documentaries, so he can be very, very critical.
21:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of time, I'll be watching stuff all the time.
21:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll find something, I'm sure I would find something good in it.
21:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I was entertained by, and frankly, I was actually like, you're used to Eddie Murphy, and the, you know, the stand-up mode, and when, you know, when he was, whatever his name was on 48 hours in the, you know, Reggie, Reggie Johnson, I think was his name.
22:04
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, but there was, he's got the la la la la, you know, kind of in your face speaking, but then when he's just being
22:12
[SPEAKER_02]: He's so kind of quiet and chill.
22:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's so different and it was like, but I will say his house is fucking ridiculous because it's so big and he's living right in the middle of like, where they're, you know, it's like fire, fire central.
22:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I would never want to live there.
22:27
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like that.
22:28
[SPEAKER_02]: But I thought it was entertaining.
22:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like how I'll say it, obviously.
22:30
[SPEAKER_02]: But we're, no, it wasn't the Palestinians.
22:32
[SPEAKER_02]: But he was in the, he was in the hills.
22:34
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, obviously, you don't know exactly where.
22:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, now I'm going to watch it.
22:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to stop at this point.
22:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I still haven't watched one of my heroes as a Paul Simon.
22:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I still haven't watched that documentary yet.
22:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even know there was a, but I love Paul Simon.
22:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I think they watched that too.
22:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Part or two part documentary a couple of years ago.
22:49
[SPEAKER_02]: It was, and then, okay, so now I'm asking you what you're watching.
22:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you seen the new series on Netflix called Death by Lightning?
22:56
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
22:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got to watch it.
22:58
[SPEAKER_00]: What's it?
22:59
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the deal with it?
23:00
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about Garfield, the President Garfield, and okay, I don't know how to say his name is it?
23:05
[SPEAKER_02]: James?
23:05
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's McFaden or Michael McFaden, is that it was from, um, did you watch the session?
23:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
23:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you know, uh, the guy who had to burp the toilet line and he was married to Shiv.
23:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't, I don't remember his name.
23:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't know how he would turn out to be very evil.
23:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
23:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And the show.
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
23:23
[SPEAKER_02]: He's in this and so is Nick Offerman and so is Bradley Whitford and it's really good.
23:29
[SPEAKER_02]: And frankly, I just watched the first episode, so it's
23:37
[SPEAKER_02]: The first episode focused on how James Garfield was nominated for President, and it was, I was totally surprising.
23:44
[SPEAKER_02]: It was so good.
23:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
23:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I know why.
23:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're going to like it.
23:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're going to like it.
23:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And I need things to watch because I, if I've been something, I've been through it, and then I forgot I watched it about ten times like that.
23:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's another one also called The Beast in Me with Claire Danes, and that's really good.
24:01
[SPEAKER_02]: If you like thrillers, that's another Netflix series.
24:04
[SPEAKER_02]: That's very good.
24:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, my problem is that my problem is that I'm a true crime fan, and that's not the ones I can't stand though, and when they advertise the goryest pillar ever, I hate all of that.
24:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't like anything, if the story is like, and he kept people in a basement in a jar.
24:25
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm not watching that.
24:28
[SPEAKER_02]: You did, okay, I know this is controversial, but did you happen to watch the Jeffrey Dominette flick series?
24:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd refuse to, because I, not, I just, detest Ryan Murphy.
24:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
24:41
[SPEAKER_00]: It's surprising, because he's taken liberties, like he, he totally lied about them and then does brothers.
24:48
[SPEAKER_00]: He totally lied about every single thing he's done.
24:50
[SPEAKER_00]: He just makes up whatever story he wants.
24:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And because it's not a situation like, this is really, really bothers me.
24:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Like on HBO when they had serious about Woody Allen or they had the serious about Michael Jackson, they never asked anybody else except the people who are accusing Michael Jackson.
25:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and you think you're watching something on HBO, you think it's an actual real thing.
25:13
[SPEAKER_00]: It is absolutely possible that Michael Jackson never touched a kid.
25:19
[SPEAKER_00]: But he was sued and sued and sued.
25:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's like, you know, I don't know how he ever dealt with it, and I'm not saying I know what happened.
25:25
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just saying that it's terrible, like it's not like someone in Netflix is going, okay, why are you second-rise?
25:31
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not good.
25:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see the uh, what was the last one they just came out with?
25:35
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I didn't.
25:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Ed Dean.
25:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I didn't.
25:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mean to bring you down, Kimberly.
25:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you could.
25:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
25:43
[SPEAKER_00]: You like the dog or thing?
25:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I did.
25:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
25:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the reason I let, let me just explain, because I have always had this fascination with Jeffrey Dormer, not in a way that I like him or idolize him obviously.
25:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the way we, I always have to say that with zero.
25:57
[SPEAKER_00]: You'll look, I have the fascination.
25:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a serial killer.
26:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't personally kill people.
26:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I do not show our humans to make sure you know.
26:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
26:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Where you're coming?
26:06
[SPEAKER_02]: People in 55 gallon drums.
26:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
26:09
[SPEAKER_02]: But the thing that I thought was most fascinating about him
26:13
[SPEAKER_02]: After he was caught and he was being interviewed, he said, you know, this is just part of whom I am.
26:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't get rid of this urge and I need to be locked up.
26:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And so he didn't like that that was how he was.
26:28
[SPEAKER_02]: and it doesn't diminish what he did or it doesn't excuse it in any way.
26:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
26:33
[SPEAKER_02]: But like when you look at other serial killers like Richard Ramirez, who was the Knight stocker.
26:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, he really, he was fucking like demonic.
26:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
26:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
26:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And he would like kind of, what's the he would not flirt, but like he would kind of mess with the cameras and the way he would look and he enjoyed being sinister
26:55
[SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't soon to start in that way, like he didn't even see why he fooled people then, right?
26:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
27:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
27:00
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm sure there are true things in that show, but I can't even comment that because I haven't seen it.
27:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't even know if there are the lies that are in them, and then there's brother, and then the edgy.
27:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And the edgy, he just made up stuff to try and say, no, I don't like that.
27:16
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's funny.
27:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the one thing they did, there was a movie about the other guy, oh god, I can't remember the guy who's starting it, but it was the attract, that was like the handsome serial killer guy.
27:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Ted Bundy.
27:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Ted Bundy.
27:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And whatever movie that they did about him, there was the scene where a dog was like sensing his evil.
27:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
27:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was really effective.
27:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I found out it was total bullshit.
27:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And that pisses me up to but this is true that he did sit he was in a suicide prevention center with I think is it an rule
27:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And rule was a famous author sat next to him and had no idea so she wrote a whole book about how she had no idea You couldn't have known that he would that this is who we was Yeah, talking people out of suicide and that's amazing.
28:06
[SPEAKER_02]: That is crazy Yeah, there's just something about there's something about the serial killers that are I don't know it's it's it's fascinating that anybody would be that way And I always like wonder like what made them that way?
28:18
[SPEAKER_02]: What is it?
28:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it something because I know in the Jeffrey Dommer movie
28:22
[SPEAKER_02]: They Penel, Penelope and Miller played his mother and she wanted the mother wanted his brain studied and the father refused and you know I mean, I would have I'm with the mom like study is brain figure out what the fuck maybe you can fix that You know, I don't know.
28:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I I listen to all these different things and I'm a fascinating by I love that show where it had the FBI Profilers show that was on yeah, and so
28:49
[SPEAKER_00]: You do know that something, I mean, there are certain similarities with these people, but there's also, with serial killers, but there's also a thing where you, you know, you, you can't make a logical connection at the point where it goes beyond that.
29:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's something that people who don't have that, I don't even know what you call it, disposition.
29:07
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to leave?
29:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to be?
29:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, here's the thing, I, I remember the Manson thing.
29:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I was 13 years old when it happened and I was so young that I wasn't like I got full old man since a good guy But I could tell like you know, he actually when you go you people of the criminals I'm the one you send you a daughter to me and I remember just like so I think a lot of it did The fascination did start with Manson, maybe I think
29:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I think so.
29:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you.
29:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's I mean, it's a shame.
29:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you brought up the thing with Eddie Murphy.
29:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I see a lot of documentaries right now that are just kind of like love letters to themselves, you know, but, but if I like their stuff, I'll watch it.
29:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I can't remember there was the Ben Stiller documentary about his fans.
29:57
[SPEAKER_00]: That was really good.
29:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Wonderful.
29:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Because she's well, he has vulnerability.
30:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
30:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I thought that was I'd watch that twice and sister Amy and I really, you know, I really admire what he has done because he separated from his wife.
30:12
[SPEAKER_00]: He got back together with his wife.
30:13
[SPEAKER_00]: He's never going to be a touch you feely guy like his dad was.
30:18
[SPEAKER_00]: That was like love to be recognized and all this kind of stuff.
30:20
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I thought it was really still or a mirror.
30:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing is lost.
30:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's so good.
30:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the last one is, or I'm not gonna say the last one, but the last one I'm gonna bring up is the John Candy.
30:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you see that one?
30:31
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I heard that was really good.
30:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Really great.
30:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is.
30:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's just wonderful and it was a wonderful documentary.
30:37
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah.
30:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
30:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let's switch this up because no one wanna ask you about the Epstein files and, you know, the, okay, preface this with
30:46
[SPEAKER_02]: What we're hearing, you know, Donald Trump, it was like, go ahead and release files because he didn't think they were going to be, you know, he's like, well, there's this bullshit sham investigation that they're going to hide behind and if they do release the files, it's only going to be whatever they choose because they're going to keep back whatever supposedly is under investigation, which means they're going to continue to lie and Trump's name will be scrapped.
31:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I know that there are a lot of people out there.
31:09
[SPEAKER_02]: who are looking at this, like, oh my god, you know, he's just going to keep getting away with it.
31:13
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just going to keep getting away with it.
31:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And my feeling, and this is what I want to ask you, my feeling is I expect that they're going to lie.
31:20
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not going to allow myself to be shocked or upset by it.
31:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And there have, I know earlier this year, there were a thousand people in the DOJ who had access to those files, my employer,
31:36
[SPEAKER_02]: She put out call out to these DOJ workers and they could speak to her anonymously and they did and they were basically saying that, you know, anybody could access these files.
31:46
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't something like it was all secure.
31:49
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like anyone could could get to them.
31:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And so.
31:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Her story was a little interesting because it was just talking about how they didn't mark anything.
32:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, okay, let's just say you're a DOJ guy and you're going through it or a woman and you don't know what you're going to find.
32:07
[SPEAKER_02]: So you open up the file and then there's pictures of naked young girls with all these men and you got to look at it and then you're and I guess initially they're like, okay, look for any mention of Donald Trump.
32:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And then dates switch it up and they're like, okay, go look at, go look for X, Y and Z.
32:25
[SPEAKER_02]: So then they had to go back and look at the same files that they hadn't looked at and be retraumatized.
32:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And there was this one man who said it was completely traumatizing to look through them because it was just so awful.
32:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And anyway, I'm side-tracking.
32:38
[SPEAKER_02]: The whole idea here is the thousands of people have seen these files.
32:43
[SPEAKER_02]: And I believe Thomas Massey said, if we get a redacted,
32:50
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
32:51
[SPEAKER_00]: He really just quoted Thomas Massey.
32:53
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I know.
32:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I can never what have done that before.
32:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought he's called him.
32:57
[SPEAKER_02]: But I know.
32:57
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, in Thomas Massey's basically saying, if you give us some bullshit list, I'm going to start naming names that I know about.
33:03
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know how this is all going to go.
33:05
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think that regardless of what this bullshit regime is going to show us,
33:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the Epstein files are still like the big fucking deal and what's going to ultimately make everything crash and I don't think it's the only thing but I do think it's the heaviest thing on the pile.
33:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're right.
33:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're right and who knows where it'll end up but you know to me I want them to play over and over again, him standing next to Epstein, making those sneering, allowing a look because he's a total
33:37
[SPEAKER_00]: animal, a total disgusting, you know, I also think he's like to the point where he doesn't even know what he's doing, because he is, again, willfully, willfully, willfully stupid.
33:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the fact that there's no guardrails around him is great now, if he doesn't blow up the world, but it's great, there's nobody telling him not to say in front of MBS.
33:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, yeah, yeah, a lot of people didn't like that reporter.
34:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so yeah, I agree, I agree.
34:04
[SPEAKER_00]: You think it's, I've been knowing about this and I want people to understand one thing.
34:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Graden Carter killed an article about Jeffrey Epstein that I think was Vicki Ward.
34:16
[SPEAKER_00]: One of these people who came out with a lot of the Epstein.
34:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So the point is Epstein could have been stopped in like 2005, 2006, but great, but great in Carter had to kill the story.
34:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And so how many things are like that in life?
34:32
[SPEAKER_00]: overly powerful men who have no you know don't think about they just don't think they don't they've never been raped They've never been and so you know, it's like they they're not thinking about they just think that he was afraid of Jeffrey Epstein's power is What outlet did he work for?
34:50
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... who's great and harder oh no he's that he's uh... he's uh... he's uh... he's uh... the president and he owns vanity fair oh okay yeah he's an asshole generally he said that for nine eleven that our new state or some he's just an as well he has a big you see great and caught it as a big hair all the way up to the top of the building yet yeah well i i mean i think so so the so basically you're overall feeling is that we're going to save democracy
35:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, well, I've been guilty every, you know, I said after you got out of the office the first time, oh, they're going to get them now, I've never been right and never been right, but essentially.
35:28
[SPEAKER_00]: You cannot make any, you know, when Nancy mace herself has been, uh, I think she was raped.
35:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
35:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's, and these people are dancing around, you know, there, there hasn't, you have to know, if they don't know that he is the worst human being in the world, then they're just refusing to look at it.
35:47
[SPEAKER_00]: They know how terrible he is, but it's their own,
35:50
[SPEAKER_00]: career they're worried about right now and so and you say how could I happen to someone who would be sexually abused could then turn around and just allow it it happens all the time it happens all the time when you get deluded by the power and so I think that it's all going to fall apart I hope
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and so I think, you know, be like a tremendous midterm.
36:14
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, because my thing is, I'm a member of the Democratic Party.
36:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I'm a member of the Democratic Party, because I don't call it the Democrat Party, right?
36:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So exactly.
36:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have always believed that since I was a kid and Vietnam was around, there's never been any contest between the two parties.
36:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Not that everybody in the Democratic Party is a great person, but no, but the evil, the horrible evil that runs through the Republican Party,
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[SPEAKER_00]: is always been just a criminal, greed, power, hungry, a moral toads.
36:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, right there with you.
36:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we always talk about, and it's true that back in the day they'd argue on the House and Senate floors, and then they would go into Tip O'Neill's offices and have a drink and work it all out.
37:03
[SPEAKER_02]: yeah those days are over and I but you know they've always been racist they've always been anti-woman maybe not as extremist they are now but they have been they've always been and so I you know I would certainly hope that they turn into a minority party hope so yeah we need to happen this how about this completely for years and years and years they try to take down and you know I was very
37:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I didn't like Bernie's campaign because Bernie's campaign was like I'm the only one looking solve that he's a little bit like Trump.
37:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the only one looking solve this and now forget about Obama care.
37:37
[SPEAKER_00]: But the truth is Obama care saved this nation anyways, it saved people I know who were on like a lifetime limit type policies and so.
37:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, but on the other side, the Republicans have no plan.
37:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So even someone like Marjorie Taylor Green, who maybe she, we get into her sympathetic or whatever that thing is called empathetic thing, which goes, these people don't have medical medical.
38:03
[SPEAKER_00]: But she doesn't know what to do about it, or she doesn't see this a problem.
38:06
[SPEAKER_00]: She's still steeped in the Republican
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[SPEAKER_00]: propaganda, which literally has no solution to the problem.
38:14
[SPEAKER_00]: It's totally like, hey, if you bomb a car, then the insurance company's going to get stronger.
38:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always a song and dance, circulals thinking.
38:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope this just defeats them a big time.
38:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think, and I think it will, and I think with the, with Marjorie, I just, you know, she didn't seem to give a shit when everybody else's lives were being threatened.
38:36
[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And somebody made a point, maybe it was Tom Hartman, who said, you know, for years the left hated her.
38:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and then for a few days the right hates her and that's that's when she has to get security like she's never had to call security unbelievable, right?
38:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's not like they're never had to feel right threats like those women who worked in the polls and she Yes, we get their names and just ruined their lives.
38:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and she had no problem doing that and she was chasing down David Hog, no matter what you think of David Hog, he's a young man who was traumatized and so yeah, she's horrible.
39:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And I, you know, I will say my mom and I were talking about this this morning and we were basically saying it's like the enemy of the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend, but that person is my ally and right now she is, you know, working.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's not working for the Democratic Party, obviously, but she is helping the Democratic Party by just, by just, by just, she's not telling the truth or anything about her, but she's absolutely, you know, it's like when I, I really would get mad at people going, why aren't you, why are they, talk to Lynn Cheney?
39:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It all, you should have talked to Lynn Cheney.
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[SPEAKER_00]: he was part of the bipartisan movement.
39:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't know if there's some kind of emergency, they can't get the flags back at full mast, but they're still gonna have mast over that horrible Dick Cheney, and you know
39:56
[SPEAKER_00]: and how about this?
39:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the scary part is I just read an article at 600 Americans lost their job after Charlie Kirk Cook died by saying something.
40:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the thing, I have said, you know, I've been on Twitter since 2010, so I'm fairly good at just staying away from everything for a few days.
40:14
[SPEAKER_00]: But some people who would say like this woman lost her job because he said, you know, he talks about guns and you know, he was in favor of guns So you know, he talks and she lost her job So that's the horrible that's the horrible thing behind this, but it's so transparent Next and never did this.
40:31
[SPEAKER_00]: He tried to hide it, but but Trump saying I'm gonna take a abusive license away It's not coming I hope to pray.
40:37
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not gonna work
40:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't think it's too difficult to go in and you know, there's the other thing of like right now and really since last November we have been living in this stressful kind of energetic, you know, it's like a toxic energy and it's upsetting and we're stressed out and we don't know what's going to happen and people are worried about their social security and they're worried about their health care and all of it.
41:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, you add the farmers, and it's one on top of the other, and then he's calling fucking women quiet piggy, and he's just being so growl.
41:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
41:12
[SPEAKER_00]: If any, then it happened 10 years ago with any other person, he would have been run out on the rails.
41:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just unbelievable that the one thing that they thought that was good about him.
41:21
[SPEAKER_00]: He says anything, he wants to say, that's always horrible, and it's worse now.
41:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And worse than that, a sadistic psychopath.
41:38
[SPEAKER_00]: He loves that he's doing things that make.
41:41
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't even think it past.
41:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He loves these rounding up people.
41:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing with MBS was, oh my God, it was maybe sick.
41:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, everything he does makes me sad.
41:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, even Jeffrey Epstein in those files, basically said, you know, that won't this month fucked up guy, and I think we all know that, and then there's also the thing of his health.
42:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, do you know, by any chance, you know, Dan Greener?
42:04
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't.
42:06
[SPEAKER_02]: From what?
42:07
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a writer for the Simpsons.
42:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, I don't know.
42:10
[SPEAKER_02]: How come he's the reason I'm asking you is because it started in June, where he, okay.
42:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's like, I'm the guy who wrote the episode where Donald, or he 15 years before Donald Trump became president, he wrote the Simpsons episode.
42:24
[SPEAKER_02]: That Trump becomes president and then something happens to him and Lisa, I think, is, it has to take his place.
42:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so he did this TikTok video in June and then he's done a bunch of them where he's based.
42:36
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I, you know, he announces who he is and then he says, I am a prophet and I am here to tell you that Donald Trump is not going to be around.
42:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think he didn't see who's gonna die, but he said he wasn't gonna be president by the end of this year now He's kind of taking into saying not sure if it's gonna be at the beginning of next year and then he says and then he makes like a big joke out of it So he puts on like a spirit Halloween prophet costume and he walks around and he does just silly things while he's predicting that Donald Trump is not gonna be president during this term.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He thought it would be this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not sure about that now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He also said
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[SPEAKER_02]: that he didn't think J.D.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Vance would be president and I'm so curious because now I've been going to his TikTok page and it's Dan and then it's greener.
43:28
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a great G.A.R.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A.N.E.R.
43:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, great.
43:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Granger almost, right?
43:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe it's just, I can't remember how to say his name.
43:35
[SPEAKER_02]: But now he's saying, hey, do you want to manifest, which is funny?
43:40
[SPEAKER_02]: But do you want to manifest being Trump free and he's kind of making a joke about that?
43:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm so curious to know what his deal is because it's like, are you like getting psychic heads for real that this guy's going to be out?
43:52
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to say that because you don't want people to think you're woo, woo and weird and you're just making a joke out of it?
43:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Or are you just building a TikTok?
43:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would he say that though?
44:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't understand why he would come from that spiritual perspective, because not everybody buys into that.
44:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know what I don't know.
44:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think he's obviously, we don't know what's going to happen, but I think the thing about Trump is the thing on his hand, and that angle, there's no reason why he can't kill over and, oh.
44:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I am not hoping for this.
44:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I am not hoping and take it out if it looks like I am.
44:26
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, many people are right and many people are saying many people are saying
44:31
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't eat big Macs every day for your whole life and he thinks he's a big shot because he hasn't drink or, you know, Yeah, he's drinking all these drugs.
44:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, who knows the hell he's taking?
44:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they were talking about him taking some suit-a-fed situation a while back and that he had all the suit-a-fed in his drawer.
44:49
[SPEAKER_02]: There was some picture circulating.
44:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know if it was real.
44:51
[SPEAKER_00]: That suit-a-fed works too, so I was absolutely bullied.
44:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Not the PE folks.
44:55
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't get the suited fed pee.
44:57
[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta go back to the count and get that adult version.
45:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and you have to I need to say I really caught that and then you get the real suited thing and it's really an amazing drug when you first do it, but obviously it's like any kind of speed you're going to it's going to ruin it's going to destroy you.
45:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it always they always do and that's you know he's been taking drugs for a really long time and then I mean you can just look at the guy and see And he's falling asleep all the fucking time and then he's got dementia and it's clear that he has dementia And I don't say that in a way to mock him because you know a lot of people could dementia But you can see it and they're in they're lying about it and they're talking and he's lying about his
45:33
[SPEAKER_02]: wonderful MRIs like people get MRIs every day and you know there was a doctor there's this guy a listen to Keith Edwards on YouTube who I love and he keeps showing like a YouTube video of a note of this doctor who works with patients who have congestive heart failure and like yeah he's got it you know and he's like I can't diagnose him legitimately from you know
45:58
[SPEAKER_02]: But I can look at what's happening to him and say, absolutely these things are happening to the people that I'm treating.
46:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So I, and then he gives him six, well, he gave Trump this particular doctor gave him six to eight months on the June or July.
46:14
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see you know, and it's you know, I live in the world like, you know, I like to listen to Taro videos on YouTube about people predicting his death And say you like, you know, and if they predict it then I save it and see if it's you know, are they right?
46:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just want to preface this so I don't give a shit about fucking Taro cards.
46:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I really don't and if you do, I'm not saying they suck, I just don't care.
46:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really bind them.
46:38
[SPEAKER_02]: But I like listening, like when I'm doing my work throughout the day, I just have my headphones on and I listen to people talk about Trump being sick and dying because I like being in that headspace, you know.
46:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, but you know what, you know, it's like, um, I, having didn't ask it and all those kind of stuff and doing the e-chang and doing the whole thing of those, uh, of those methods is that, you know, I don't go to tarot car readers, but if it's a tarot card reader who knows what they're doing,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, they're they are it becomes a relationship between you and the chat, but I saw on the because my wife and I Giltly watch the real housewives Okay, so the real housewives the one with Lisa on Salt Lake City.
47:20
[SPEAKER_02]: So I haven't seen it.
47:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen Salt Lake City
47:22
[SPEAKER_00]: They have this tower car here.
47:23
[SPEAKER_00]: He's dealing them.
47:24
[SPEAKER_00]: He's dealing them like cards.
47:27
[SPEAKER_00]: He goes, oh, look at that.
47:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he starts right, you know, just talking.
47:30
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so obviously fake that it actually makes me the truth of some of these spiritual things where you're
47:40
[SPEAKER_00]: a chain, it's all about your mind melding with the thing.
47:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not about dealing with like, uh, I'm going to play soft hair with a tarot card deck.
47:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never had, I mean, I've been to Psychics and I've had, I think what I like is like, for instance, I'll tell you one time it was March.
48:00
[SPEAKER_02]: It was 1999, and at the time I was an actor.
48:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So I used to call this woman, she's no longer with us, but I called this woman, and I would just say to her, tell me what you say.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I hadn't talked to her for a while, so she didn't know anything that was going on with me.
48:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm kind of savvy to the bullshit psychics.
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[SPEAKER_02]: who ask questions and fish and all that.
48:23
[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like, you know, I would just be on the phone and her name was Pat, so I call Pat, and I knew her.
48:29
[SPEAKER_02]: And I would say, okay, what do you see?
48:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And then she would just go off and she would list all this stuff that she saw stream of consciousness.
48:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So she told me, now, and I bring this, because in 1999, I was still pursuing an acting career and she wanted me to be famous because she wanted to be like the psychic to the stars.
48:48
[SPEAKER_02]: So she had her own little agenda and I was obviously not famous, so I'm throwing that in there because it was her point of view.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what she wanted.
48:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So she out of the blue, she says to me, all right, you're going to.
49:02
[SPEAKER_02]: You have a friend, a short friend who has short brown hair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's going to introduce you to this man and his initials are LC and he's a producer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you're going to want to work with him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But your friend isn't going to help you, but it doesn't matter because you're going to figure it out and you're going to work with him.
49:23
[SPEAKER_02]: So she tells me this in March and I don't have any idea what she's talking about.
49:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't I don't have a short friend with short brown hair I don't know any men with the initials LC I don't know anything so I kind of I were wrote it down to my diary and then I just forgot about it so in June
49:38
[SPEAKER_02]: my short friend with her fresh haircut, short brown hair, invites me to this party.
49:43
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, hey, you know, it's my boyfriend's friend and there's going to be a bunch of single men there and at the time I was single and she's like, you know, maybe you can come meet somebody.
49:52
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like great.
49:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm there.
49:53
[SPEAKER_02]: So I go to the scary Charles, Larry Charles was not Larry Charles, and I won't say his name, but his initials were LC, and I didn't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I forgot about that reading at that point.
50:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So I met, I met him, and I liked him, and I wanted to go out with him, and I asked my friend for help.
50:11
[SPEAKER_02]: and she was acting like she was going to help me and she just wouldn't help me.
50:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly like this the psychic said.
50:17
[SPEAKER_02]: So I remembered where he lived and I just put a little note in his mailbox saying it was nice being at your party, you know, maybe we could have a drink or whatever and then he called me and we had drinks and then we started going out and it was exactly except he was not a producer.
50:31
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a romantic interest.
50:32
[SPEAKER_02]: So she, her interpretation of this vision that she had or whatever you want to call it, she interpreted this guy as being a producer
50:41
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
50:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
50:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
50:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And playing out of this scenario, he wasn't a producer, and she got his initials correct.
50:50
[SPEAKER_02]: She had never done that before with anyone else.
50:53
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I just, I think that's, I, I love that, but I, and I've had a couple of times where I've gone to taro readers, but I've never felt like I connected with any of them and it never, nothing ever stood out to me.
51:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know, I'm not saying it's not real, I just, it hasn't worked for me.
51:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we can say if we say 99% of the people who are advertising themselves and making money from this are absolute frauds, yes, but I will I'm sorry my phone keeps going on hold on
51:26
[SPEAKER_00]: But now I will tell you a story who really quick story that is not, I'm not writing a book about the occult or whatever, but this actually happened to me.
51:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I used to have these, at some point in my life, I have these dreams, like I really thought I was like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh
51:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I levitate that on my body, and I saw my body from the ceiling.
51:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.
51:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And there was one time when I said, I can do this anytime I want, and then I lost the ability to do it.
51:53
[SPEAKER_00]: But during one of these reveries, I strange, strange dreams.
51:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I knocked in this hotel door, and the woman, or answered, and she goes, don't forget room 431.
52:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't forget room 431.
52:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Three weeks later, that's the exact time that the Earthquake happened.
52:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So when these things happen I really kind of have come to despise angry atheists because you know who the hell knows what's going on Yeah, but they they want to just count all magic And it's like you know women have a more generally or can be more intuitive because they're not Disweighted from it, but we all have this thing where who knows how it happens who knows that they'll come You know, how does a mother know that her daughter is dead
52:41
[SPEAKER_00]: right maybe years from you know they'll find the neurons that fire but the idea of saying it's all garbage it still is 99 percent garbage if you if you're going to like the star I'm you know yeah that not that woman but in general but you're an open person you're just you're relaying a story that's true and I don't believe it's all coincidence
53:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, it's not.
53:03
[SPEAKER_02]: It's absolutely not.
53:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't believe it's occupants.
53:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I had what I like to refer to as a download of no wing back in 1993 where I just got this knowing.
53:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what else to call it, but I just knew I was going to meet someone and I specifically wanted, you know, Ron Cheney long training.
53:22
[SPEAKER_02]: that's exactly who it was.
53:24
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, I wanted a boyfriend so I was only 24 and I didn't have a boyfriend and I wanted one so bad and the best way I can describe it, I was sitting in the back of my grandparents' car and my grandmother gave me a ring and I put the ring on and I at that moment it just was this overwhelming knowledge.
53:41
[SPEAKER_02]: like he's coming.
53:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't hear any words.
53:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't see anything.
53:44
[SPEAKER_02]: It was just annoying.
53:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I literally promptly forgot.
53:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it was three weeks later.
53:50
[SPEAKER_02]: So this happened on a Saturday.
53:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And then on Friday, I was like, and it was exactly three weeks.
53:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to go, I don't know if you know the cat and fiddle.
53:59
[SPEAKER_02]: But I've told this story so many times on my Patreon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My
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[SPEAKER_02]: my podcast for Patrons.
54:07
[SPEAKER_02]: But it was Friday and I was like, I got to go to the cat and fiddle and it was like, I was ruled by the satellite.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had to go and I didn't know why.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I didn't even think about why.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just got to go.
54:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to go.
54:18
[SPEAKER_02]: And that particular night, as I was getting ready to go, I thought, well, I better check to make sure I have my driver's license because they card.
54:25
[SPEAKER_02]: and I didn't find my driver's license.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was so upset because I really wanted to go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was laying in bed Friday night and I thought, well, maybe my license fell out in the trash in the bathroom and there it was.
54:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I was like, Saturday, I'm going to the cat and fiddle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going and I didn't connect it to that download because I had forgotten about that download.
54:43
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I went to the cat and fiddle that night and I met this guy who,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I it was him and that's the one that I was warned or not warned but told in my little download he he's coming and then there he was and I and I mean he was somebody who didn't last a lifetime but he was significant and I told him when I met him he was my soulmate which I genuinely believe he is one of them but it's but soulmates aren't always romantic like I think my mom is my soulmate
55:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, I think there are so many different things going on.
55:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, I'm going to do a deep dive now And I'm going to read who could I reveal it on?
55:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to reveal on a show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, some kind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Reveal the big reveal Send this to the Congress Someone Gee, I can always tell them closer.
55:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It's coming to the end of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I'm going to end week
55:34
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you're not.
55:35
[SPEAKER_02]: You're never a week because we love you.
55:36
[SPEAKER_02]: We love you here and I mean my my listeners love you when I love you and I think you're you know I just want to say When I watch you on social media and Where you're coming from and then obviously talking to you it's the same it's you are a genuine person and You care well you are too and I think that's very attractive
55:56
[SPEAKER_00]: to each other is like, you know, like minded people do, like, meet, yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're not, maybe we are so many.
56:04
[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, it's just, you, that's, that's what we gravitate towards each other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I totally agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, honest people and people who are creative and stuff like I absolutely believe that.
56:17
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, you're, you're never weak Andy.
56:20
[SPEAKER_00]: You're super strong.
56:26
[SPEAKER_00]: My name on Instagram is Andy Kindle of Superstar, right?
56:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And so one time I got to my message and this guy, I don't know who he was, he's like, you're another superstar.
56:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously they didn't, if you don't get the reference to Jesus Christ, Superstar, and you think I'm being, who would seriously go and Andy Kindle of Superstar?
56:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what are you saying?
56:49
[SPEAKER_00]: You're saying you don't think I'm a superstar?
56:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you are incorrect.
56:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
56:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, hello, you have been a guest on start me up like multiple times.
56:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, exactly.
57:00
[SPEAKER_02]: That is full on super star material.
57:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and the other thing is I realized and I tweeted this.
57:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I blue sky did.
57:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I realized it sounded, it sounds self-conscious or self-service.
57:10
[SPEAKER_00]: But I said, you know, I have like, whatever it is, 10,000 followers on blue sky.
57:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, if I'm not thrilled by what I have now,
57:18
[SPEAKER_00]: then there's something wrong with me.
57:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Then the narcissistic gene goes through.
57:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Because if it's really 15 million people means I'm a funnier person than 10,000.
57:30
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then I realize, well, this sound is very self-serving.
57:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So, that's how I say that everything can be.
57:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I come back and I go, who's this guy?
57:39
[SPEAKER_00]: People thought I was between from a fake account.
57:42
[SPEAKER_00]: That was maybe so bad.
57:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I would comment on my own things.
57:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so they were going, oh, you forgot to do your burner account.
57:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say, and these great, and you go, can't have any.
57:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to start doing that.
57:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to start commenting on my own stuff.
57:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Kimberly is great.
58:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good thing.
58:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
58:03
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
58:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I guess I could talk to you all day long, but I think I have to let you go now.
58:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And get back to all of my other jobs.
58:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a million other jobs now, so I have to go do all this.
58:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
58:13
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's always good talking to you, always.
58:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to have you back on sooner than two years.
58:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, whenever you want me to have one, the other thing I like about this is it seems easy.
58:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, these are like, easy, these are like fun.
58:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's what I, that's what I aim for.
58:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And especially when I have someone on like you who is in the show business and thank you, you know, it's, you know, when I have to just by saying how I'm in show business, thank you very much.
58:36
[SPEAKER_02]: When I have superstars on, it's just kind of fun to talk about other stuff.
58:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, I mean, it's like being bogged down in politics all day.
58:43
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very nice.
58:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to talk about my, uh,
58:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Next show, we're gonna talk all about your mother, Roddy.
58:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I tell everybody where to find you.
58:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I can be found, don't go to my website.
58:57
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a hundred years old and there's a, it has my dates from July 1993.
59:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but you could, I am addicted to Blue Sky now.
59:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not addicted to Blue Sky now.
59:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I decide to put this nice environment, free of everything.
59:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm, I think I'm a candy killer there.
59:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's all, I think.
59:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're Andy Kinler, I believe Sky.
59:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
59:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm putting those, at least the blue sky in the Patreon description of this show.
59:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's always a joy talking to you because you're wonderful in your superstar and we love you, Andy.
59:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much.
59:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Timber.
59:36
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a great, have a great everything.
59:39
[SPEAKER_00]: You too.
59:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye-bye.