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Jake Luhrs: August Burns Red · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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  Speaker 1: You got that.
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  Speaker 2: Today we've got Jake from August Burns Red.
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  Speaker 3: I feel so honored to be doing this.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I feel like you know, Culin, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: when Colin and I started this podcast, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: we've been.
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  Speaker 3: We grew up with all the Solid State tooth and
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  Speaker 3: Nail bands.
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  Speaker 2: You know, obviously a BR was you know, core to
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  Speaker 2: all of that, and so when Culin and I started
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  Speaker 2: this podcast and you know, primarily interview bands from that
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  Speaker 2: Solid State tooth and Nail world, it sort of has
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  Speaker 2: always felt like August Burns Red is kind of like
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  Speaker 2: a white whale, and here we are.
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  Speaker 3: We caught the white whale. Here you are, Jake, you've
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  Speaker 3: been You've been caught.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just so excited to chat all things a br
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  Speaker 2: obviously talking about the new album, uh and whatever else
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  Speaker 2: comes up. But yeah, super honored that you're joining joining
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  Speaker 2: with us today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thanks for having me man, that's that's that's uh.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate the compliment, and yeah, I'm excited for the
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  Speaker 1: for the pod. Dude, this is this is cool man,
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, of course. Well let's dive right into it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about like just how you got into maybe
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  Speaker 2: music in general before like let's you know, let's back up,
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  Speaker 2: even before August Burn's read. Yeah, how did how did
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  Speaker 2: you get into music in general? What inspired you to scream?
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure that's you know, that's not normally like you know,
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  Speaker 2: when a parent thinks about their child, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: the dreams that they have for their child, usually screaming
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  Speaker 2: in a metal band is like not maybe one of
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  Speaker 2: the top time. So what was it that made you
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  Speaker 2: want to do this for a living?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it definitely wasn't my parents parents vision for
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  Speaker 1: my life. But I think when I was young, my
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  Speaker 1: sister really was the one who introduced me to music.
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  Speaker 1: So she was listening to like Nirvana a whole, Marilyn Manson,
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  Speaker 1: Beastie Boys, Tupac Wu Tang, and so I remember you
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  Speaker 1: said that.
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  Speaker 3: Was your sister. Yeah, yeah, you got a cool sister.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's pretty rad. And so when I was listening,
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  Speaker 1: I would listen to her music through her door, right,
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  Speaker 1: And I remember for Christmas, my mom bought me this
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  Speaker 1: little tiny CD player boombox thing kind of looked like
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  Speaker 1: a clown, had a big red nose on it, and
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  Speaker 1: for the volume and Green Day Douchie and that was
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  Speaker 1: my first album that I ever got, And man, I
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  Speaker 1: listened to that thing on repeat because it was really
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  Speaker 1: the only album I had. And then I remember I
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  Speaker 1: would go to my sister's room and I would bet
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  Speaker 1: my CD for one of her CDs, and an hour
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  Speaker 1: later I'd come walking out of her room with Nirvana,
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  Speaker 1: Wu Tang Beastie Boys. And then I would go to
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  Speaker 1: my room and I would play those those CDs, and
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  Speaker 1: I just remember her just being infuriated because she lost
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  Speaker 1: the bet. And then I'm playing her music now, and
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  Speaker 1: what kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of things would you bet her? I'm curious on that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, just whatever whatever I had, if I
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  Speaker 1: had like cassettes, or if I had you know, just
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  Speaker 1: whatever I had to to to offer her. But I
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  Speaker 1: remember her. I remember specifically getting oh, man, it was
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  Speaker 1: a Beastie Boys record, and then ill I don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember what album it was. What's the one
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  Speaker 1: with them all sitting on the front on the front cover.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember that, like they're all laying they're all
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  Speaker 1: sitting on like a curb. Yeah. I remember getting that
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  Speaker 1: record from her and being like, oh my gosh, this
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  Speaker 1: is so sick. I now have a Beastie Boys like
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  Speaker 1: CD and then going into my room and just listening
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  Speaker 1: to it and Solid Gold Hits, Solid Gold Hits. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so that's yep, that's pretty dope. But yeah, man, like, oh.
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  Speaker 5: No, it's so check your head, check your head.
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  Speaker 1: That's it and white. Yeah, it's black and white. I
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  Speaker 1: think there's pretty sitting on the curb.
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  Speaker 5: Right yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, Well Solid Gold Hits is basically the
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  Speaker 4: exact same, okay color color.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah. So that that was like the first That
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  Speaker 1: was the beginning of me really listening to music. And
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  Speaker 1: and like I said, she had a broad spectrum of
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  Speaker 1: different genres of music, so I was really getting introduced
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  Speaker 1: to all of these to all these different sounds. And
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  Speaker 1: I remember, I think I was sixteen years old. I
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  Speaker 1: had made some friends in like the punk rock community,
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  Speaker 1: and they were like, hey, come to a show. And
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  Speaker 1: I went to. My first ever show was a Strike
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  Speaker 1: Anywhere show.
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  Speaker 2: This little just interviewed, We just interviewed the guitars for
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  Speaker 2: Strike Anywhere or so ago.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I remember going to this show in this
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  Speaker 1: dingy little venue called New Brooklyn Tavern. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: ceilings are sweating, It's packed like sardines. And this guy,
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  Speaker 1: the singer was up there. He had these long dreads
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  Speaker 1: and he's just ripping around like a lion. Dude. He's
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  Speaker 1: just just ferocious and he's like he's preaching his gospel
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  Speaker 1: right and and you know which is very like I
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  Speaker 1: guess anarchy. It's it's very political message that he was preaching.
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  Speaker 1: And I just thought, man, this is this is cool,
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  Speaker 1: Like this guy is really cool. And I walk up
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  Speaker 1: to him and I had a sharpie and I said, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't have anything to sign, uh, will you
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  Speaker 1: sign my arm? And so he signed my arm and
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  Speaker 1: then I'm like looking down at his signature and I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 1: that's so cool. And then I look up and he
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  Speaker 1: has the Sharpie's like okay, man, now you sign my arm.
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  Speaker 1: And that was That was the first time in my
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  Speaker 1: life that a man that I admired or thought was
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  Speaker 1: cool basically told me I was I was equal to
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  Speaker 1: him right like I was. I was. I mattered just
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  Speaker 1: as much. And I was like, yo, this is one
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  Speaker 1: of the coolest moments of my life. And this guy
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  Speaker 1: sees me with respect, and I was like, I want
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  Speaker 1: to do that, like I want to do this for
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  Speaker 1: my life, Like I want to give a message of
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  Speaker 1: you know, my gospel whatever that is a message of
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  Speaker 1: hope and then be able to show people love, you know,
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  Speaker 1: essentially right, right, And.
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  Speaker 2: So Jaker has I don't know if you listen to
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  Speaker 2: Julian Baker Jake, but she's got this like really cool
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  Speaker 2: quote where she says something along the lines of, like
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  Speaker 2: something along the lines of like one of the cool
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  Speaker 2: things about punk is like turning the microphone away from
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  Speaker 2: your mouth.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And and that's exactly like that's exactly like what's happening
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  Speaker 2: in that moment is like you know you, like what
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  Speaker 2: I love about the punk world is like you you're
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be on that stage just as much as
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  Speaker 2: the band is.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And like that is it's just like this equally like
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  Speaker 2: we're equally we're equal in power. It's just it's like
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  Speaker 2: really cool. It's like a cool moment where like everybody
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  Speaker 2: like we're all supposed to be a part of this,
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  Speaker 2: like we all have.
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  Speaker 5: A role in in this uh, in this experience. It's
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  Speaker 5: just really cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. And and it's yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: that like that changed my my world. Uh. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like all right, I gotta learn how to scream,
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  Speaker 1: and I gotta you know, I gotta do this whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: And I had joined I'd been in a couple, you know,
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  Speaker 1: punk bands, and then I got into the the screaming,
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  Speaker 1: you know, hardcore metalcore music, and that was introduced to
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  Speaker 1: me through a band called Hopes fall off of a
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  Speaker 1: record called No Wings to speak of.
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  Speaker 5: Such a great album, such a great band.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the song was called April April of
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  Speaker 1: Silence or from Silence or oh man, there's it's the
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  Speaker 1: second track on that record that the vocalist does this
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  Speaker 1: really emotional scream and it goes into like this melodic section.
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  Speaker 1: And I would listen to that song and repeat daily
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  Speaker 1: and would listen to that scream and go, man, I
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  Speaker 1: want to learn how to do that, Like I want
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  Speaker 1: to have the same emotion that this guy's carrying with
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  Speaker 1: his voice. And so that was a pinnacle vocalist for
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  Speaker 1: me in starting to learn and understand my craft.
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  Speaker 4: You know, So from day one as a vocalist, have
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  Speaker 4: you always had kind of this unique sound or was
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  Speaker 4: it something that you kind of found in yourself later,
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  Speaker 4: Because when I think of August Burn's Red, I think okay,
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  Speaker 4: I can immediately tell that it's August Burn's red based
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  Speaker 4: off of Jake's voice almost like this kind of like
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  Speaker 4: yelly thing. I don't really know how to explain it.
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  Speaker 4: There's like this yelly thing that kind of rests on
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  Speaker 4: top of the actual growling kind of sound where it
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  Speaker 4: feels like it feels like your lungs are coming out
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  Speaker 4: with the sound, if that makes sense. Yeah, it's very,
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  Speaker 4: very recognizable. And there's only like two or three other
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  Speaker 4: vocalists that I can think of who have even something
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  Speaker 4: sort of similar. So for you, was that something that
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  Speaker 4: you'd like discovered along the way or was that something
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  Speaker 4: that like, that's just how it came out.
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  Speaker 1: So kind of the rule that I had given myself
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  Speaker 1: was to be inspired but not to replicate. So, like,
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  Speaker 1: if there was something that I liked about a vocalist
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  Speaker 1: like Josh Scoggin, for example, that's a he's another legend. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's a master. He's I don't know if you've met
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  Speaker 1: him or hung out with him, but he's one of
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  Speaker 1: the most goofy hilarious. Yeah, So like okay, cool. So anyways, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to be inspired and I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to understand like the level of of what I was
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  Speaker 1: trying to get at. So I go to shows and
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  Speaker 1: I would watch front Man and I would just take
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  Speaker 1: notes and I would listen intently. Then i'd go home,
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  Speaker 1: I'd listened to the record and I would I would
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  Speaker 1: envision what it feels like, or envision the sound coming
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  Speaker 1: out of the voice, the vocal notes, like like the
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  Speaker 1: tonality and like, and then I would try to replicate
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  Speaker 1: that as as best as I could to understand how
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  Speaker 1: to scream right, because you know, we didn't have vocal
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  Speaker 1: teachers back in the day for for screaming, Like, we
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  Speaker 1: didn't have you know, fries and all all these you
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  Speaker 1: know techniques. So I would just I would just do that.
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  Speaker 1: And then I wanted to have the most diversity I
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  Speaker 1: possibly could, and so I would listen to the Acasy
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  Speaker 1: Strain right. Uh uh. I don't remember what that first
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  Speaker 1: record was. It had a I'm really bad at at this,
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  Speaker 1: as you can see. Uh Uh. Anyways, I listened to
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  Speaker 1: I listened to the strain because you know, he's he
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  Speaker 1: has so much depth and range. Right. But but then
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  Speaker 1: I would I would, you know, think to myself what
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to have more passion or emotion, So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just learning how to scream high, learning how to scream low,
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  Speaker 1: learning learning what my voice sounds like, and then kind
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  Speaker 1: of being able to craft my own my own sound
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  Speaker 1: from that. And that took a lot of time and
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  Speaker 1: and thought, you know, especially because as you're growing, your
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  Speaker 1: voice might be changing a little bit, right and and
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  Speaker 1: you know, so really what I wanted was I really
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be able to express any emotion I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to with a scream. And that was kind of the
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  Speaker 1: foundation of my start because I think, you know, when
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  Speaker 1: there's a heavy breakdown, it's like, Okay, maybe I want
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  Speaker 1: to go low with that. If there's like this really chaotic,
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  Speaker 1: you know, spasy section, I might want to go high
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  Speaker 1: with that. And that's kind of where I started. And
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you know, like this makes sense
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  Speaker 1: to me. But then it but then over the years
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  Speaker 1: I kind of just I know who I am and
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  Speaker 1: as a vocalist, and I know what I like to
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  Speaker 1: do now, and I know what makes me me, and
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  Speaker 1: I still pushed the envelope, like for this record season
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  Speaker 1: of Surrender. You know, there's there's definitely some different styles
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  Speaker 1: of screaming tonality wise, depth wise, uh. And I have
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  Speaker 1: my vocal teacher, David Benitas, and I brought him in.
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  Speaker 1: We had several sessions throughout the the recording UH process
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  Speaker 1: where we just kind of picked apart my voice and realized, hey, man, like,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't have a lot of technique, that's my weakness.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a very passionate, emotionally driven vocalist. You know, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's add a little technique here. Let's let's give
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  Speaker 1: Jake a little understanding as like what his capabilities are
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  Speaker 1: and where he could actually go if he just learned
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  Speaker 1: how to do this and stop this habit. And then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I was able to do things
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  Speaker 1: on the record that I wasn't able to get at.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, if you want to be I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna say the best, you want to be the best
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  Speaker 1: version of you, right then you have to be willing
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  Speaker 1: to go to those places of comfortability, get uncomfortable, break
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  Speaker 1: things to rebuild, and so that's that's what I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to do continuously throughout the career. But yeah, man I, I
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  Speaker 1: I feel very blessed that, you know, ABR has been
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  Speaker 1: around for for as long as we have that we've
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  Speaker 1: got a new record coming out that and then I
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  Speaker 1: I got to live that dream man like uh and
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  Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's pretty wild.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to hear just like the maybe origin story
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  Speaker 2: of a br where we started recording. You mentioned that
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  Speaker 2: you grew up in South Carolina and then moved up
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  Speaker 2: to Pennsylvania, where the rest of the guys are from,
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  Speaker 2: and so yeah, I'd love to just hear like how
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  Speaker 2: the band started, how you got involved.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, what's the story there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so all the members except myself and Dustin are
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  Speaker 1: ogs and they started in high school up in Mannheim, Pennsylvania,
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  Speaker 1: which is like Amish country, a lot of farmland, you know,
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  Speaker 1: horse and buggies on the streets every once in a while.
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  Speaker 1: And they were just I think JB was promoting shows
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  Speaker 1: in like VFW Hall's in in Leicaster, and so they
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  Speaker 1: would basically set up their own shows and play around
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  Speaker 1: around there. I had started down in South Carolina with
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  Speaker 1: my metalcore band sho Walks in Beauty, and we were
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: I was working at CC's Pizza, I was working at Sonic. No,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't a rollerblade or a skater. I was working
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  Speaker 1: at a shirt printing company where like I just told
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  Speaker 1: the owner, I said, hey, don't pay me, just I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna come work for you and just print shirts for
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  Speaker 1: my band so I can sell them at shows. I
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  Speaker 1: traded in my Nissan Maxima for a Bell South cargo van,
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  Speaker 1: so that and we had and I had to put
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  Speaker 1: curtains on all the windows because we would put equipment
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  Speaker 1: in there. We didn't want anybody stell me. That was
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  Speaker 1: the sketchiest looking cargo van ever did, like this old
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  Speaker 1: beat up van, white van with like this the blemish
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  Speaker 1: of like Bell South, you know, like stamp on there.
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  Speaker 1: And then like these curtains that I think we had
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  Speaker 1: like roses on them, and they were black with like
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  Speaker 1: red roses or something.
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  Speaker 4: And I was gonna say, tell me, at least it
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  Speaker 4: was like some like cheesy looking curtains.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man. And so you know, we we we
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  Speaker 1: we would rehearse at the we called them the practice
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: she So it was a storage storage unit, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and so he'd run out the storage unit, but all
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  Speaker 1: the bands local to Columbia would would rehearse down there.
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  Speaker 1: So we'd rehearse Tuesday's, Thursdays, and I think Saturdays or
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  Speaker 1: Sundays from five to seven. But we would we would
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  Speaker 1: end up partying and hanging out because literally you're getting
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: a show if you're if you walk by you know,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: storage unit twenty four D, there's you know, burns out Bright,
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  Speaker 1: you know, rehearsing their new material from you know, Deep
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  Speaker 1: Elm Records. If you go over here, you know, and
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: so we would end up rehearsing, but everybody would just
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  Speaker 1: hang out and and be able to listen to each
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  Speaker 1: other's music and hang and you know, be encourage each other.
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  Speaker 1: So it was really a cool experience. But then my
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  Speaker 1: band broke up and I was absolutely devastated, Like it
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  Speaker 1: it just you know, it was really like my ticket
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  Speaker 1: out right, Like I saw it as like, hey, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna live my dream. It's gonna get me
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  Speaker 1: out of this place and I'm gonna be able to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, live the life that I that I want.
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  Speaker 1: And the band broke up. I hit rock bottom. I
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  Speaker 1: remember I was in I was going to college, a
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  Speaker 1: technical college, and I was going for audio engineering and
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  Speaker 1: a music business and I remember my professor at the
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: time said, hey, if who wants to be a joy
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  Speaker 1: musician full time, like for a career, and I raised
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  Speaker 1: my hand like a couple other people did. He goes,
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  Speaker 1: you have a point zero zero one percent chance of
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  Speaker 1: making that actual reality.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: And I just remember crying like I was just like
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I just put my head on my desk and I
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: just started to cry because I just I was fighting
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: this uphill battle. And then the record Thrill Seeker came
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: out from August Burn's Red and my buddy John said, hey, come,
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  Speaker 1: you got to listen to this record. So we went
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  Speaker 1: to a party, we put it on, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I would love to be in a
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  Speaker 1: band like this, Like excuse me, this is the music
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  Speaker 1: I want to create, something like that's got this this sound.
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  Speaker 1: And then a month or two later, maybe my buddy
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: John calls me and he goes, hey, you know August
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Brin's read their their singer left. You should try out.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm in South Carolina, like they're in PA.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. He's like, dude, you should
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: reach out. So I went on MySpace and I sent
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: them a message and some of my music from Schwaks
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and Beauty, and I remember painting a house with my boss.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I was a painter. I was doing, you know, grunt
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: work like that, just like a like a handyman. Right.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: So I'm painting stuff. They call me up. Brent calls
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: me and goes, hey, is this Jake? I said yes.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: He's like, this is Brent from August Prince read we
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: want to try you out. I think it was Thursday,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: and I said, well, when do you want me to come?
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Like that's so exciting. He's like, we want you to
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: come tomorrow. And I'm like, okay, well I have like
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: a job and like a life, you know what I mean.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Like he's like, I said, well, well what happens if
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: if if you don't like how I sound or whatever.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, we'll just tell you to go home,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: like it's not a big deal. And I'm like, oh
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, not a big deal. So I walk
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: into this house that I'm painting. You know, my boss
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: has an actual job that we have to wrap up.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: And I said, hey, man, I got to go. You
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: know that band August Frin's read that I had shown
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: you the music, like, I have a I have a
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: try out, but I have to leave tomorrow. And he's like,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: all right, man, do it. He's like you got to
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: go for it, and if you don't make it, don't worry.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: You still have a job with me. But you've you've
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: got to do this.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: And so I got to you got to stick it
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: to that college professor.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. So I packed up my nineteen
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: eighty nine Honda Civic hatchback and I drove up to
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Pennsylvania and I was very nervous, and I ended up,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: you know, doing a trial run with them for like
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: four to six months maybe somewhere around there, because they
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: had other guys that they wanted to try out, and
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: they had one guy I remember they went on tour
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: with him. Brent calls me and he's like, hey, you know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: so and so's voice is really not doing so well.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: And I was like, well, does he drink? He's like yeah,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: it's like give him a shot of whiskey, lemon and
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: water and tell him to sleep as much as he can.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: And he's like, dude, thank you so much. Hang out
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: on the phone. I'm like, did I just did I
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: just talk myself out of a job, Like you know
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: what I mean? But yeah, we ended up going on
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: tour with a band called Between the Bear and Me
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: and I had played shows with them at New Brooklyn
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Tavern in South Carolina a few times with my band
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Sho Walks and Beauty, So Tommy Rogers knew who I was,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: and at the end of that tour he sat abr
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: down and said, hey, this is your guy. Like he's
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: he's got what it takes. He's a great front man
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: like you guys would be foolish not to not to
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: take him. So he kind of closed the gap for
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: me and got me the job. And yeah, that was.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: That was in two thousand and six. So here we
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: are with our.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: Tenth Records history.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: As they say, what I find so interesting is, you know,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: August Burn's Red kind of sets the sets the metal
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: course scene up for its biggest years, right, And you
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: know there was there was gripes about that, and there
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: was obviously loyal followers and all that as well. But
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: I don't think people realize just how anti scene y'all
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: were at that time. I remember hearing from friends who
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: had seen you in two thousand and six and I go, yeah,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: there was this one band. It was super weird. They
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: were so good, but they were wearing like flip flops
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: and they wore like Aeropistaal and Amber, Crobbie and Fitch stuff,
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: like they didn't look like anybody else that you would
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: see on the scene. And they're like, I don't know
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: if that was cool or not, And I was like,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: that sounds pretty awesome to me. Was is that something
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: that you remember?
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that was just that was really just the
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: style of that that you know, JB and and Brent.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: You know, Matt's a farmer, so he he wasn't wearing
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you know, hardcore clothes. I was the most hardcore metal
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: core guy there was because I didn't. I wasn't you know,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I wasn't in their scene. But yeah, like those guys wear,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you know, flip flops, and JB still wears flip flops.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact. If he doesn't wear flip flops,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: people are angry with them. Like it's like, I feel like,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: this guy's been around for twenty years and he makes
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: a post and if he's not wearing flip flops on stage,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: somebody's gonna, you know, somebody's crying, and so like, yeah,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: it was it was just it was just their style.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: And I guess I guess we just never really you know,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: because because back then it. Also, it wasn't you didn't
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: have to have a gimmick like back then. It was
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: like this is this is the band, and they're playing
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: their music, and their music is their identity. It's not
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: about the way that they look. And so we didn't
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: really care, like we you know what I mean, And
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and we were I mean, August Burns was ripping shows
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: with like Terror and and you know, like all these
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: other bands and and and they had a you know,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: respect for us and you know, bury your dad and stuff.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: So we didn't really have any qualms with it. And
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: we were just like, yeah, this is this is what
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: we're gonna wear, and we didn't really think about it.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I think that that's such a cool thing though, because
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: while it might not have been intentional, it was kind
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: of like anti establishment of what the scene was doing
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: at the time, because the way you looked was a
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: big part of and still is a huge part of
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: the scene. If you want to call it the scene.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Sure, but yeah, I think it.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: I think it set you guys up on this this
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: kunter of trajectory where it's like, hey, we're just gonna
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: do us and you know, if you want to follow, fine,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: if you don't. It really does not matter to us.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: I think that's a super super cool kind of aspect
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: about y'all.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thanks man, I appreciate that.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I have something to say sort of along those lines
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: that kind of picking back off of what Colin just
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: said there. But before that, Colin, because we're talking about fashion,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: should we bring up Jaron's shoe?
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that'd be cool.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, So we had a We had a buddy growing
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: up who I'm sure ABR was his favorite band, and
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: he was a really incredible artist. And he like he
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: painted like he got one of those like generic Walmart
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: like like it was supposed to be like white Vans
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: or whatever from like some but it was like a
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Walmart brand rubber and he painted the Consolation's album cover
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: on these shoes and supposedly like he went to like
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: one of your guys' shows and I don't know, I
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: forget what maybe what band member, but like he like
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: showed them to the band member and the like one
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: of your guys's members, Like was just like have my
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: like what what what did he give?
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: What did he give? I think it was a symbol
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: or something like that.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: It was like a symbol or something, and so maybe
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: it was Matt. I don't know, but like somebody gave
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: him something like one of one of your guys, like
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: part of one of you guys's instruments or whatever, because
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: like he was like, I need to have those shoes,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: like because they were so like it literally looked exactly
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: like the album cover.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: It was so cool.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was probably Matt. Yeah, that's probably Matt. Because Matt,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Matt and I after shows, we'll go to the barricade,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: you know, or we'll go to like at that time,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: we were going to like the merch table and stuff,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: and so I can I can see that being like,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: give me give me those shoes. Those are dope. Let
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: me let me. Can I give you a symbol for them?
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like like I could see,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: well I could also see me doing that too, but
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: then I'd have to go to Matt and be like, hey,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: can I have a symbol from you? But yeah, that's
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: a that's awesome and and you know, like that's the
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: cool stuff too. Man. It's like I have some some
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: paintings from from fans where they they you know, either
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: they did like my dog or they they they I
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: came out with a devotional book and so they did
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: like their like these mountains and stuff. And it's just
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: really cool when fans share their art with us, where
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, man, like that's really cool that you
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: took all that time to create this and and it's
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: and it's connected to me, whether that's through like a
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: song or you know, like I said, you know, a
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: book or or my dog Winston, but like it's just
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: there's like a really just cool connection there. And sometimes
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you know, fans will write letters or I made. I
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: kind of regret this a little bit, but I had
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: made a post this was years ago about Haribo gummy
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: bears and how much I love them and cause they're
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: they're like they're tough, right, They're not the soft time.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, yeah, these are the best gummy bears. Bro.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that that year, my guys, that year,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I got pounds of Haribo gummy bears, just like every show,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: somebody had Horibo gummy bears for me. And I was like,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you guys, gotta pause, man, because this you're making me
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: not like because I'm eating them all the time now,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I'm constantly having a
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: bag of Horibo gummy bears in my head. So but
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: just that connection and the intentionality and the thought, you know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: and it's like, man, it's just it does go along way,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and it's cool when when you see somebody's art and
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: their craft and their unique strength being showcased, you know.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: For sure, Yeah, sure, I agree.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: So Cullen mentioned a second ago something along the lines
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: of like, you know, you guys were really kind of
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: just like going by the beat of your own drum, right,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: like you kind of had like your own vibe and
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: then you kind of ran.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: With it and sort of along those lines.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: And I know you're a very humble guy, so you
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: may not want to really talk about this much, which
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: is fine. But one of the things, like when I
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: think of ABR, like you guys created this certain kind
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: of metalcore sound that like, within a few years it
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: seemed like you guys were just doing your thing. You
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: were like, this is what sounds great to us, this
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: is what we like, and then like within a few
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: years it felt like every other metalcore band was like
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: trying to copy that exact sound that you guys had created.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: And I'm curious, like, do you have thoughts on that,
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: like was that something you recognize or was that something
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: that you experienced?
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: At least for me as like a huge music fan,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: especially music in that world, that's what it kind of
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: felt like, like you guys had created this type of
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: metal core sound and then everybody else just kind of
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: came along the lines and they were like, well, that's just.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: Like the blueprint, like that's what we got to do.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm just curious, like did you experience experience
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: it in that way?
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: Do you think it? Like do you even like agree
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: with me, Like I'm just curious.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't think I saw I don't
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: think I saw it like that. Okay for myself, I don't.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I mean I know that we were very much not
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: trying to follow trends, and still to this day, we
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: don't want to do that. We don't like, we're not
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: entertained by that. We don't want to change our sound
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: to be like something else because that's not that's something
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: else is not who we are, right, and that's that's
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: and that's kind of why it's like have you heard
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the new record at all?
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Have you gone yet?
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Not the whole thing, but like certainly all the things
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: that you've already put out for it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, gotcha, Okay, okay, it's very much a modern
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: day ABR record. Like we're not yes, you're like some
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: parts you're gonna be excited and you're gonna connect to
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: it if you like August Prince Read. But like you're
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: gonna get August Prince Read. Like we're not you know,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: like and and we're not bashing I'm not bashing bands
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: that decide to go out of pocket and completely change
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: their sound, Like that's a band decision, that's your career,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: that's your legacy. Whatever you want to do, you know,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: you you you do right. But for us, it's like,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: you know, like we we we want to stay true
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: to ourselves and we work so hard to get to
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: this position as a band, you know, like we don't
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: want to jeopardize that or lose it. And we love
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: our fans and kind of where we are. But when
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: when we were starting out, uh, like for Messengers, for example,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I remember we were we were with Solid State Records
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and are an A and R. His name is John Dunn.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: He's the basis for Demon Hunter, so he was our
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: A and R and he came up to us and
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: we're like, we just released Messengers, and he goes, you guys,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: you guys you sold nine thousand records first week, and
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: we were like is that good? Like we don't know,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: you know, and he's like, yeah, dude, that's really good,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Like you guys should be really stucked. And we're like, okay,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Like I don't think we you know, I don't think
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: we were like that sounds like us, you know, or
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: or we got you know, like what do you guys
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: do it? You know, like we just I don't think
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: that was in our All we wanted to do was
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: get better at our craft and play as many shows
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: as possibly could. And I think my head was like
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: in the impact space because like the encounter that I had,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: it wasn't about, you know, when I met the singer
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: from Strike Anywhere, it wasn't about how cool he was
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: or his music being the best, or the sound being different.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: It was that it was the connection. It was the
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: the personal connection. And so I think that's where my
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: brain was most of the time, was like I want
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: to go out to the merch table, I want to
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: go talk to the fans. I want to hear what
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: they're going through and you know what I mean, and
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: connect with them and encourage them because that's what changed
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: my life, you know, so you know, and and and
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: for JB and Dustin being the songwriters of the band,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I think they were just excited that we were living
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the dream that we were working so hard to live.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know that I see looking back
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: going oh, like now that you say it, I think
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: all these bands did sound like I really maybe I
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: thought that was just what metal course. I like, yeah,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: we all sound relatively similar now, you know, Like I
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: don't know, but but I I really appreciate your words.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: And that's very kind of you to say that about
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: the band that's you know, yeah.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my sense of it, it just seemed like one
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: of those things where, like you guys very quickly, it
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: seemed like kind of perfected a certain kind of sound.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: And yeah, just so many other bands kind of came along, uh,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: pretty much right after, and they were like, well, that's
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: like that's if we want to have a chance at this,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: like this is what we got to do. Yeah, my
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: experience at August Burn's Red has always been like you
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: guys were sort of the like the impetus for that
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: or like the the like origin of that.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the standard for it, and so you know,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: it's probably in the same way that like, you know,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: maybe you know, maybe band like punk pop punk bands
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: maybe look back as like well Green Day, like Green
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Day sort of like they figured that out, and now
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: if we're gonna be a pop punk band, like that's
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: what we gotta do.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: You calm down, bro, You're like you're pumping my tires
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: pretty good right now.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just I'm just saying I'm just saying
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: so anyway, but that's that was like my experience of
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: it as like a fan growing up in that world
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: at that time. Yeah, just it just seems like everybody
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: was just trying to copy the ABR sound because clearly
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: that was like people liked it, Like, you know, obviously
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of people liked you guys, and a lot
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: of people were liking a lot of the other bands
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: that kind of sort of seemed like maybe not not copycat,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: but like seem to like really borrow a lot from
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: what you guys were doing.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's cool, man, And we were part of
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: a really special time, like you know, like it was
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: it was it was the beginning of something that we
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: see now as like it's massive, right, Like I had
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: never in a million years would have thought that metalcore
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: would be as big and popular and large as it
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: is as as far as the genre of music. I
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: remember when we got nominated for a Grammy, I was like, what,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Like that makes no sense, like.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: At all this music present, this music, Like yeah.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Who who who's controlling this this whole you know agenda.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like you know, I just you know, to
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: be a part of you know, I wouldn't I won't
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: say the beginning because there were a lot of amazing
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: bands that that were really pioneered the sound in my opinion,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: but for us to be a part of that and
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: then to see it really, you know, explode twenty years later,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: where there's so much music, there's so many different types
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: of sounds and and and there's thousands upon thousands people
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: going to metal shows and festivals. It's just so cool
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: that like, like, wow, we all did it, Like we
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: all we all made this happen, and uh and it's
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: it's it's awesome, dude, And and I love watching, you know.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: For example, we went on tour with Polaris in Australia
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: with Kubla Khan and Jamie who's on Season of Surrender
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: with Sonic Salvation, you know, talking to him and and
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: and all those guys and they're like, man, we love you,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: and like, we're so glad you guys could come and
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: do this tour with us for our album release. It's
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: an honor and it's cool to hear that we've made
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: some sort of impression or influence and then see those
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: guys on their stage doing their thing, just dominating, right,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: and it's like, dude, that's so sick, Like I I
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: love seeing my boys win, you know, And it's and
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: but it's cool to know that I was maybe a
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: part of a season of growth or you know, influence
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: for them to use that and and then make their
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: own thing. Yeah, it's it's a it's pretty pretty dope
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: way to look at it.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I think I don't remember who said it,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: but it's kind of along the lines of the quote
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: that goes, good artists create great artists. Steel. Have you
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: ever heard that.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Good artists create great artists? Steel?
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I haven't.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I bet, I bet is it Milli Vanilli?
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: They like took that to heart.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Wait is it it's is it not? Great artists create
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: good artists steel.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: No, it's the other way around. So like like, so
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: if you are a great artist, you don't just rely
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: on your own your own talents. So what's what's what's
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: creative within you? But you actually take from all these
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: different influences. And I think for a lot of metal
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: core bands and bands beyond.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Metalcore, it's it's originally pao by the way, that phrase there.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: You go, there you go.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, yeah that makes sense. I've never heard that before.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean I guess you're just only a
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: good artist.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just good.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: I'm just good.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just no, no, not great.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: He's deflating those tires now, yeah, there it is, thank you.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you know, I think I think for
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: for me, like competition is healthy, you know. So like
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: if I go on tour and and you know, watch
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: watch a band on stage, Like I like to be inspired.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I like to get excited, right, so I'll watch for
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: that reason. I also like to watch because I want
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: to know what the environment's like on the stage before
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I take it. So I want to know what the
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: air is like, is it the temperature, the how big
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: the crowd is, what what's their energy right now? What's
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: this band's energy? The sound? But also because I want to,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I want to I want to do better than them,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I want to be the best. I
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: want I want you to come to this tour for
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: this band. I want you to leave wanting more August
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Burn's red and so like, you know, that's a that's
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: something I take into consideration when I'm thinking about internally,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: how I can be the best. Right, I'm not gonna
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: be the best to to to to the world, but
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I can be what's the best for me? Who? You know?
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: How can I be my own best? And I think
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: that understanding, learning, growing, seeing what other guys are doing,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: how how it's perceived, and then really taking that. But
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: also when you do, you you take it to like
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: the identity that you carry as a front man. So like,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: for example, I'm not going to be cursing up a
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: storm on a stage. Uh you know, I'm not going
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: to be wearing a bunch of paint on my face.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be you know, spewing blow like
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not. You know, there's a certain I have an
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: identity as a front man. So there are certain things
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: that I have to adhere to my own personal boundaries.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: But that's the beauty of making that great, right, Like
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: you're not replicating, you're taking inspiration and then you're putting
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: it to who you are and you're making it your own.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: And so then August Brin's read can't have its own
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: identity and set let's be set apart.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: You know, here, here's here's one of those pieces of
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: your identity as Jake greatest power stance and all of
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: heavy music.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: That's true.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: That's so every time I see you, I'm like, dude,
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: he looks like an absolute force of nature up there,
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: unshakable because his power stance is too is too powerful.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I have a lot of deep
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: hatred in my heart and the only time it comes
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: out is when I'm on stage. So that makes prefect
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: sense to me.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you look like I mean, like the Eagles could
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: use you on the of fensive line or something like.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: Nothing's through you.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Man, Mason. You gotta stop, man, you gotta stop. Dude,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I'm getting fully torke over here.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't mean to cause a brother
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: to stumble, but I'm just saying, yeah, my man.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: You do kind of look like Jason Kelsey.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: That's true, It's true.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Wow, you guys.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: I mean you kind of have that vibe, same beard
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: and everything.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Well, you was telling me I have have a nice
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: women's l a hat.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah it doesn't. He look like that's like what women
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: in LA wear.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: It's uh, it's it's usually the kind of hat that
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: that women and well, like it's like you guys ever
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: heard the the the joke where it's like if if
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: if you see a family starting to take family pictures
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: in the fall and one of them's got one of
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: them hats on, you know, a divorce is coming.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's amazing. I feel like I should. I
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: feel like I should have a pumpkin spice latte in
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: my ham.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: See exactly. You know, you know the vibe, you know
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: you know this.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm picking up what you're putting down. Well, yeah,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I appreciate, I think, Yeah, I think stage presence is
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: you know, and and again, growing up, you know, we
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: didn't have all the crazy production. We didn't have the flames,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: we didn't have the lights, we didn't have the scrims
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: and all the crazy stuff. So you know you you
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: have to also look at it in a in a
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: couple through a couple lenses, right, Like you're you're an
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: artist first, right, so you have to be able to
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: perform your music, and then I really want to convey
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: the energy and the emotion. So that's where I like
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: to just kind of let loose and let myself kind
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: of be carried with the intensity and that that can
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: take me in several different directions. But then also the
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: other side of the coin is that you're an entertainer.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: People are paying money to see a show. They want
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: to be entertained, and so you've got to play this
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: fine balance of how do I engage a crowd, which
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of times I look at like I'm introducing
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: myself to you. I'm saying, hey, I'm August Burne's read
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: and then you know, let me show you what I'm
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: all about. And then it gets to the point where
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: it's like, okay, now we can have some fun, right,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: We're gonna dance. But then the entertainment will entertaining people
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: on a stage for an hour, being able to have
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: your scream be well, you know, full sound good, and
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: then also have that emotional intensity and engaging a crowd,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: like there's a lot of there's a nuance to it,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: you know, there's like a there's a dance that you
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: have to that you have to have, and so like
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: all those things. Usually I'm trying to take into account for,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: you know, for how I'm performing, and I want to
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: be the best at all of those, right, I would
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: say one of my weaknesses is communicating to the crowd.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: It's just I don't know. Sometimes it's just awkward or
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: or I don't know what to say, I don't know
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: what to do my hands, you know, And I'm like
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: and I'll come up with ideas, you know. And but
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: but then again, like when I do that, it's like
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: I also want to be able to engage the crowd
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: that night about something that's going on that night, you know,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Like I would prefer to do that, like this is
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: a new date, this isn't an old date, you know.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: There there are a couple things that I repeat every night,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: But that's because it's a message of me, right, and
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: that's not that doesn't change. But yeah, sometimes you're just like, uh, okay,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna play this song now, and they're like, cool, dude,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: you are right. I'm like, I'm a little nervous. You've
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: been doing this for twenty years, you know, Like, so, yeah,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: there's a lot to it, you know, and I get.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: That, and I get that.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Before we dive into your top five influential albums, you've
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: already touched on a little bit obviously about the new album.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: I'd love to just hear briefly, like, what is it
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: about this album that you're maybe excited about specifically, maybe
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: in comparison to, you know, other albums, And not to
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: say that you haven't been excited about other albums, but yeah,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: what is it about this album specifically you're really excited about?
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah? So this album, I was really vulnerable, and a
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: lot of the lyrical content and the idea behind Season
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: of Surrender was to try to engage people with whatever
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: it is that they hold close to their heart and
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: being able to surrender it, meaning heal from it, overcome it,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: let it go, whatever that is. Because like, when I
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: look at life, I think we're all unique, and I
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: think that we all have a purpose, and I think
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: that we all have this unique story and life that
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: we're supposed to be living. But I feel like in
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: my personal life, and that's the only life I can
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: speak on. I've had past experiences kind of shape me
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: or tell me who I am, or tell me how
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: to respond to the world, or how I think about myself,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: who I'm supposed to be. The world loves to tell
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: you that, like you've got to be famous or make
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: this much money, or you know, have your own business,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: all these different things. And notice that like I'm talking
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: about things from the past that have kind of maybe
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: changed who you are or the direction you're going, or
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, or I'm talking about things that are outside
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: like worldly things, things that are outside of you. But like,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I want you to be the person you were intended
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: to be. So we got to get all that shit
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: out of the way, right And so each song has
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: a topic ones on narcissism, We've got self sabotage, depression, addiction, grief.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: So there's all these different topics throughout the record, and
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that people resonate with one or two of
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: those messages and realize, like, hey, man, like there's something
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I got to do here. There's something that I do
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: need to surrender and I need to let go of
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: so that I can live the life that I was
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: intended to live and become closer to a more pure
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: form of yourself. Right, And so in order to do that,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I have to I had to dig into my own stuff.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: And I have to, you know, because if I want
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: you to feel something, I have to present you with
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: that thing, right, So digging into my past where I
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: struggle with addiction or narcissism or you know whatever, grief
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: and living in that so that I could write it
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: and then and then look into how I healed or
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: overcame that or surrendered that, so that that all of
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: that messaging could be into this album where somebody might
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: think about that, you know what I mean. And so
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: that was the intention. And that's why the records called
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Season of Surrender because it takes a it takes a
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: season to change, right. You can't just and especially if
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I'm asking you to give the thing that is closest
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: to your heart, you know, So like that's a process.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: So I think that that is something I'm very excited
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: about and really for me connected me to this album
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: in a deeper way than any other record I've ever
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: written with August Frind's read and and I love the album.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I absolutely love it. If nobody likes it, that's that's okay,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: that's okay. There's so much great music in our in
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: our industry, in our scene that you can go listen
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: to that. But I'm just this is like a child
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: to me. It's like a it's it's a part. It's
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: literally like it's a part of me, you know, right,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think lyrically it's it's it's it's vulnerable.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: And I think that the technicality on the record and
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: the intentionality around the song structure or structuring the songs,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I think you're getting a full album that it doesn't
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: feel like we lacked on a song. You know how
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you listen to an album and you go, well,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: we can skip track four, five, and six, right, but
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: seven is good and eight's good, and I don't really
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: like that last one because you know, it doesn't it
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: doesn't do anything for me. Like I feel like when
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: you listen to the record, you may not be attracted
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: to every song in the sense of like that that's
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: my song, but there's definitely stuff there that you're gonna go, oh,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: that's cool or wow, I didn't or you know, like
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to listen back to that, and and
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: that's because we were very intentional about listening to each
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: other when we were writing this record. And there's more
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: rewrites on this record. There was more tough conversations, there
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: was more you know, collaboration, there was more thinking outside
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: the box while still being rooted as ABR than there
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: ever has been. And that's pretty cool when you've been
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: doing it for twenty years.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Totally.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Well, in however many albums, now, was it like nearly
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: what ten eleven albums something like that.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Well, this so this is technically our eleventh record, but
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: we call it our tenth because the eleventh record is
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: the Christmas album right right?
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Oh sure yeah, sure, which, by the way, is not
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: all the better Christmas albums out there.
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: It's so good.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably because I'm not on it. Like if
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: you think about like hang out with your grandparents, you
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like Merry Christmas, all of a sudden,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: this dude just screaming ho ho ho. It's like, nah, dude,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: that's not the vibe, you know.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: So that's yeah, that's definitely not my grandma's vibe. Well, Jake,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I know you got to get going, so let's uh,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: let's quickly dive into top five most influential albums.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: If if you've got some albums you can think.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Of, well, okay, we clearly know that I don't have
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: a good memory.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: So even if you can just think of as artists, Yeah,
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: all right, cool.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: This is gonna be maybe a little out of left field.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: But I would say Tupac No all eyes on me?
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, okay, yeah, wu.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Tang thirty six Chambers, Hopes, Fall, Knowings to speak of
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Norman Jean, Blessed the Martyr, Kissed the Child, And then
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: I would have to say between the Bear and Me
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: and kill Switch Engage.
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, so that's six, but.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Bt vam, I mean huge inspiration, huge influence for August
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Burn's read.
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: Like a new album coming out too, don't.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: They they do? Yep, they do? And then Killswitch Engage
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: and a Heartache when that album, Yes, dude, I listened
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: to it all the time, all the time. When that
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: record dropped, that was when I was like, this is
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: the biggest most polished American metalcore record I've ever heard,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: and it sounds absolutely amazing, and I was like, these
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: guys are legends like that. That just that stamped it
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: for me. I was like, this band is a legend.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: And Jesse from Killswitch Engaged did a guest vocal on
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: our last record, and he's like the sweetest guy. Absolutely
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: loved and adore that guy. He he came in from
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: New York, came to the studio and then we're like, man,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: do we want to write together. He's like, oh, I
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: have something already. I've been working on it for a
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. And he just rips this thing and
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: knocks it out of the park. And they're like, well,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: we also want to do a music video. He's like, oh, totally,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Like I can do that, just let me know. Like
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: just the sweetest dude. Didn't ask for anything, wow, Wow,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: just wanted to be a part of this record, you know.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: And we've been able to tour with those guys and
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: just absolutely amazing. And you know that's the thing too,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: is like when you see these legendary guys, you know
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: that that have been around for so long and recognizing
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: you know that they go the extra measure, they go
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: the extra step that they're willing to go deeper than
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: than the average. That's why they've been around for so long,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: you know, Like, and I just have so much respect
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  Speaker 1: for that band. So yeah, that's my top my top five.
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 5: It is always the best.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: They always say, don't meet your heroes, but it is
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: great when you meet one of your heroes and they
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: turn out to be the best.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Dude, when you meet your heroes. I met John Travolta
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: as a child. Do you remember the movie Look Who's Talking?
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I was actually in that movie and got to meet
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: John Travolta. My mom was blown away. Yeah, my mom
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: was blown away by the fact that I got this
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: kid because I was just a little kid, like I
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: don't know, you could have had any other freaking baby
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: in there. But look Who's talking? John Travolta. And I've
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: been on a chase to meet John Travolta as an
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: adult pretty much my entire life. Yeah, ever since, do.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: You think he'd recognize you? I mean, were you born
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: back then too, or I.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Was balled back then? So maybe maybe if he looks
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: deep into my eyes in his podcast, you might remember
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: old Jake from Look Who's Talking? But yeah, wow, that's
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: wild right now.
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  Speaker 4: If you ever do get the chance to see him again,
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: I think you gotta do the Saturday Night Fever outfit.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: Do you have to have like the dants already and everything?
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Or or the pulp fiction.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's a.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: That's another way.
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  Speaker 3: There you go, yeah, there you go.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Jake, where where should people get the album?
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: What you guys got shows coming up?
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, in A b R the A b R world?
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: Where where should people check it out? Yeah? Yeah, drop
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: all that stuff?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, So you know, we're actually going to be
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: going on tour here in uh in Europe with a
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: band called Imminence, an amazing, amazing band. So if you
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: want to check us out in Europe, our record drops
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: June fifth, you can go to August frindsread dot com
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: for all that information and yeah, man, like August frindsread
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: dot com on Instagram. Jake Lore's a b R on
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: my Instagram page. But dude, I just yeah, I just
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: really hope people just enjoy the album. I hope that
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: they connect with it and that it resonates with them
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: and if anything, that's just great tunes to drive in
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: the car on a nice summer day.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: You know that's right.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: I can't exactly can you talk? Can you talk at
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: least briefly on heart support?
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: As well, yes, So heart Support is basically it's a
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: it's a mental health nonprofit. I started in twenty eleven.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: I was having these conversations at the merch table with
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: my fans, and they were sharing how my music might
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: have helped them stay sober from heroin or a young
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: girl said, you know, I was able to forgive my
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: father for the abuse growing up because of your song Redemption.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: And I started to have real conversations that were so
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: impactful to hear and and and and so personal. And
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: I would talk to them, encourage them, and then I'd
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: get in my van and trailer and drive away and
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: they go home to the same environment. So I wanted
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: to create something where everybody could connect and share about
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: what they're dealing with adversities, you know, life struggles. So
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I started Heart Support. We have an Instagram paid you
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: can check that out. We actually have groups, these volunteer
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: groups in cities all over the United States. I think
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: we have like twenty four now, and they go out
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: to shows and they set up the herd Support Wall
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: where people can write out what they're struggling with and
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: other people at the show can respond to it. And
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: so we literally are connecting people together, sharing healing the
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: music scene. We also have a peer to peer mentorship program.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: It's free and it's for an entire year where we
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: train our volunteers on how to listen and how to
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: communicate with people that are coming to pair up and
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: have basically like a best friend, somebody who's going to
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: listen to you while you're going through the difficult times.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: You know, if you want to go in that season
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: of surrender and it's going to be a journey, this
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: person's going to be available for you one hour a week,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: every single week for an entire year, and that's free.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: So you can apply for that at heartsport dot com.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: If you want to be a volunteer, go to heart
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: support dot com and you can fill out the application
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: for that process. We do train our volunteers on quite
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: a few different things, so because we want to be
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: able to be present right and understand and have grace
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: and be able to listen. So yeah, heart support dot
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: Com is that's what that's all about. And it's really
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: beautiful because it's not about me. It's it's about our
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: music scene and the people that are part of it,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: and yeah, just trying to unite and heal the scene.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Love it, love it.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Well, we've definitely seen the heart support folks running around
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: at Furness fast and again just doing incredible work. So yeah,
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: thanks so much for creating that and for still making
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: that happen for a lot of people and helping a
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: lot of people through really difficult things in their life.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome, man, I appreciate that. Guys. Thank you very much.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: This has been a fun pod. You guys are great man,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Thank you so.
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: Much for having Thank you, Thanks so much. Jake.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk soon, I said, so.
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  Speaker 4: Staying a farther said, well, I don't want to say
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  Speaker 4: a wayside, start staying
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  Speaker 3: Down, So start fis