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Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And His Time As The Big Man On The Harvard Campus (Part 1) (5/9/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I'm
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your host Bobby Capucci, and this is Daily Drop number
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four hundred and thirty nine. Hey, what's up everybody, and
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welcome to the program. We're gonna get right into it tonight.
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Considering this is a relatively long article, it's really an
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editorial that was posted by Lawrence Lessig over at the
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Harvard Crimson Now. Lawrence Lessig is the RL Furman Professor
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of Law and Leadership at Harvard, and he's taking Harvard
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to task in this editorial. Folks, I've been calling for
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this kind of rhetoric for quite some time, and very
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few people in academia were willing to stand up and
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say anything about this stuff. Doctor Stephen Delay was one
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of the very few. So it's nice to see Lawrence
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Lessig show up to the party. I mean a little late, obviously,
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but still, what do I always talk about? If the
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people that are within these institutions aren't holding their peers
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and each other responsible for their behavior, then how can
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anybody on the outside ever expect for that to occur?
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So it starts on the inside and seeing seeing Lawrence
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Lessig pen this essay, this editorial. Here is certainly a
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step in the right direction. So let's jump right into
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it and let's see what he has to say. This
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appeared in the Harvard Crimson author is Lawrence Lessig. Harvard
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has apparently concluded its review of its relationship to the
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convicted child sex offender Jeffrey E. Epstein. In September twenty nineteen,
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after expressing that he profoundly regrets Harvard's association with Epstein,
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University President Lawrence S. Bakow promised to review how we
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prevent these situations in the future and what did we get.
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Like usual when it comes to these internal reports, or
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we're gonna have a real reflective look in the mirror
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and we're gonna see how we can be better. Whenever
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it's that kind of stuff, it usually falls flat on
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its face. At least with my experience here in the
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Epstein case, every single time one of these groups does
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a internal review, it always turns out to be absolute garbage.
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The report found Harvard had taken no money from Epstein
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after his conviction, though there were further questions that merited study.
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Two weeks ago, after completing that stuff, Harvard determined to
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shutter the research center Epstein's money had founded and discipline
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it's academic director. Yet in these steps, Harvard has still
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not given us a fair accounting of our past, and worse,
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in this latest step, it hides that account behind a scapegoat.
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And that is definitely the case. They have scapegoated from
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the jump over at Harvard. None of the people at
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the top, none of the trustees, Lawrence back Out, none
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of these other people that are you know, top dog
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at Harvard, people that are supposed to be responsible for
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this sort of thing. None of these people have felt
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the full weight of what occurred. None of them have
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stepped down or lost their positions, or lost tenure or
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lost anything like that. Instead, a few of the people
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who were getting that money directly from Epstein ended up
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being the only people to take the fall. And while
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they should have, right the people that facilitated the Epstein
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money in the first place, the scientists that he was
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collecting and that we're taking money from him, all of
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those sons of bitches should have lost their jobs for sure,
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they should have lost tenure, they should have lost everything, honestly,
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But the same goes for the people above them. Is
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there no accountability when it comes to the management level.
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So to say, in this situation, is it just the
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professors who should be sanctioned who should lose their jobs?
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Or should everybody who was around at that time, everybody
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who should have seen what was going on who didn't,
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either willfully or because they're morons. All of those people
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should not be in the positions that they're in. There
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are plenty of capable positions people to fill those positions.
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There are three chapters in the evolving relationship between academic
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institutions and Jeffrey Epstein. In the first, before his conviction
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in two thousand and eight, everyone loves Epstein, and that
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is the case. All of these people were gushing over Epstein.
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Remember the Vanity Fair article. You know, these people were
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gushing over Epstein. And they'll tell you now that, oh,
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we had no idea what Jeffrey Epstein was. There was
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no signs nobody had any idea. Meanwhile, we know that's
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a bunch of bs, right, We all know that that's garbage.
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Epstein didn't wake up one morning and decided to become
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an absolute scumbag pervert. This is who he was. This
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is the kind of person he was, This was his character.
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All of those crass jokes while you guys are all
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around at a science conference. That didn't ring a few
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alarm bells. I mean, come on, already, there's a time
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and place for everything. You know, you're sitting around with
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the guys, it's a poker game. You want to have
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some crass language. I get it, Yeah, of course do
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I get it. You're at a science conference. Why do
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you need to have girls with you? Why do you
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need to talk about disgusting topics that you know these?
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There's no place for it in the in the in
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the environment, or the setting. And that didn't ring any
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of the alarm bells, didn't go off for anybody. It
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didn't ring any alarm bells for any of these people.
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Please give me a break. I'm just you know, I'm
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so sick of the Well, we had no idea, We
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didn't hear anything, we didn't see anything. Well, you certainly
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didn't say anything. In the third after the twenty eighteen
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article in the Miami Herald detailing his depravity, everyone hates Epstein.
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A hold on a second, You guys should have hated
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him a long time before that. This stuff was out there.
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People were talking about who Epstein was. There was, you know,
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a lot going on in that realm of the Atmosphe
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fear people knew exactly what Epstein was. It didn't take
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the Julie Brown article to let people know what Jeffrey
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Epstein was. The Julie Brown article that got people to
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start paying attention. But in the second there's an ambiguous
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dance between this generous funder pedophile and universities that recognize
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complexity in taking his money. See, and that's one of
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my biggest problems with this. They knew it was wrong
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to take old boys dough, but they did it anyway,
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and then when they're called out on it, they start
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with the whole nonsense of well, what do you mean,
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We had no idea, you knew everybody knew you took
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that money anyway. And what you thought was that Jeffrey
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Epstein was in the clear. He did his time, They
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weren't gonna come get him again because of all of
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his connections. There was no way that was going to occur.
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So these dudes hopped right back into bed with them,
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had their hand out, and Jeffrey Epstein was handing out
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the hundreds of thousands. In two thousand and eight, former
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University president Drew G. Faust resolved that complexity with clarity,
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but incompletely unlike others such as MIT, Faust determined that
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Harvard would take no more money from Epstein. According to
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the May twenty twenty report, Yeah, okay, But very much
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like others, including MIT, she gave no directive about how
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the many other ways that Epstein was connected to the
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university should be affected by her determination. Of course, she
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didn't go all the way you know that's called mister Lessig.
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I'm pretty sure you know you're a very skilled lawyer,
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very intelligent man, well schooled, much more well schooled than me,
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that's for sure. But the cynic in me says it
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was left there on purpose as a loophole so they
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could still get that money while attaining plausible deniability. In particular,
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she gave no guidance about how the center that Epstein's
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main contribution to Harvard had established, the Program on Evolutionary
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Evolutionary Dynamics, should negotiate its continued interactions with Epstein. And
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I'm sure that mister Lessig here is going to give
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us a different avenue and a different bit of thought.
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But for me, the cynic in me and I'm sorry
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I have to be so cynical when dealing with this case,
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but the track record has made it so so it
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looks to me like this is a loophole that she
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left in there so that the professors could still continue
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to rake in the dough while the university at the
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same time could say, well, look, we have these guidelines
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in place. We're not involved in that. We didn't know
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anything about it, so it was kind of a you know,
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a wink wink, nudge nudge kind of deal. In particular,
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oh past that excuse me, because from the start, Epstein
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was constantly engaged with PED and with others through PED.
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And that's the program on Evolutionary Dynamics. That's the the
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way that they talk about it, you know, when they
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abbreviate it, it's called the PED. According to a letter
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that Martin Nowak, the ped's academic director, sent to administrators
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when the center was founded, Harvard's then president, Lawrence H. Summers.
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Huh that name sounds familiar, doesn't It got Epstein to
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pay the rent for ped's office not on Harvard's campus
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but in commercial space in Harvard's Square. And you all
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remember Larry Summers, right, Lawrence H. Summers, good friend of Obama's.
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You know, one of those guys, Yeah, Larry Summers, typical
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academia scuzzball. From the beginning, Epstein treated that space as
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a second office in Cambridge. Epstein traveled to Cambridge regularly
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to meet with Harvard's most luminary, including Summers, regularly, but
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not exclusively at ped Those meetings are described as interesting
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and intellectual in Noac's letter. There is no suggestion they
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involved any inappropriate behavior, well beyond, of course, the inappropriateness
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of including Epstein himself. So I'm certainly not laying out
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the charges that there was inappropriate behavior as far as
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abusing girls here. I'll leave that to some of the
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other fantasists that are floating around. What I am saying, though,
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is Larry Summers is an absolute jerk, an absolute scuzball,
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and an absolute moron. Larry Summers is the kind of
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guy that epitomizes everything that was wrong with academia, and
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their relationship with Epstein politically connected, locked in at the university,
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top of his field, and the exact kind of guy
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Jeffrey Epstein loved hanging around. These sores continued long after
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the two thousand and eight, ban on raising Epstein money.
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The question is why some thought the band would be temporary.
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Some hoped Epstein's reputation might be restored. All right, well,
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hold on hit the brakes, restored his reputation restored. Huh Again,
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we're not talking about somebody who was involved in a
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money a money scam here. We're not talking about somebody
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who got into a fight in the bar and things
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went too far and the person he was fighting with
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got hurt severely. You know, people make mistakes, right, You
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can forgive mistakes, is what I'm trying to get at.
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But this is no gray area mistake. This is no
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Ah Man, I really really screwed up this time. That's
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not what this was. This was human trafficking of children,
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point blank. Period. Some believed it morally obligatory to give
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a criminal a chance at redemption, and that's such BS two.
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All of these elites love to talk about that, but
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what have they done to really give people who need
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a second chance a second chance. The dude that got
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popped for selling some pot, guy on the corner who
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got nailed with some crack who's doing a lot longer
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than the dude who had the same amount of powdered coke.
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Where are they to help these people out nowhere to
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be found? Are they they? They loved the blow VI
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eight and they love the virtue signal, but they don't
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love to strap on their boots and get down to work.
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Noac was told as much by his spiritual advisor, which
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he shared in his letter to the administration. His spiritual advisor, Huh,
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I mean, are you really your spiritual advisor told you
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that you should help Jeffrey Epstein refurbish his image? Huh?
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Talk about passing the buck, talk about absolutely passing the buck.
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Whatever the reason, the reality is that there was no
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real change in the practical relationship that Epstein had to
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Harvard beyond his ability to write Harvard a check. The
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meetings continued, the relationships grew deeper, The conversations on and
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near campus were many, and there are just tons and
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tons of people who have talked about this, who have
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witnessed it, and it's in their report itself, So there's
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no denying Jeffrey Epstein's presence on the campus and around
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these professors. What continued as well was PD's need for money.
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Like Epstein's, PD's rent was substantial. Noak reports that at first,
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after false ban, Harvard had agreed to assume it, but
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after the financial crisis, Noak was informed that he would
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have to raise it himself. So again, Harvard is not
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getting off the hook here, at least not with me.
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Some people might let them off the hook, but not me.
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They're the institution here, They're the ones where the bucks stops.
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So after the financial meltdown, you clowns didn't have the
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money to fund this department, so you told this professor
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it's up to him to do it himself. And then
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there was no checks and balances like you had never
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seen Epstein's name before. All of its smacks of absolute
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b s. Foundations usually don't give academic grantees money to
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cover rent, so everyone knew those additional funds would have
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to be like Epstein's, from private individuals. An FAS Development
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Office staff member encouraged Noek as late as twenty seventeen
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to ask Epstein to ask his friends to help. According
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to the May twenty twenty report, so we want Epstein's money,
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but we don't want the stink of Epstein on it.
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So let's have Epstein middle manate and get some of
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his rich ahole homies to fill the void. And then
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that'll give us the cover we need because we could say, well,
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Epstein didn't give us the money. Insert scumbag here did
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as late as twenty seventeen to ask Epstein to ask
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his friends to help. Noek followed Harvard's direction. Epstein obliged,
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securing substantial support from his friend. Oh here's a name
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that all of you are going to know, Leon D. Black,
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among others. So you see, the Leon Black story just
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keeps getting deeper and deeper though quicksand as a hold.
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And we talked about this months ago, months and months
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and months ago, that Leon Black was in this up
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to his ears and that he has some explaining to do.
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Now you add on the new allegations against Leon Black.
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Oh yeah, oh boy is up up the creek right
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now without a paddle. There's no doubt about that. Throughout
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this period, apparently no one with any authority, certainly not
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the university, not its former president Summers, not its development office,
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not the dozen or so Harvard's most elite, saw any
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inappropriateness in this ongoing academic relationship. And that right there
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says it all. Everybody involved everybody that was around. If
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they're still there, if they're still drawing these gigantic ass
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paychecks at this overpriced, once great university, they should all
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be fired. A new broom sweeps clean. What they should
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do is get Morgan Freeman's character from that Stand By
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Me movie and have him show up at Harvard and
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whip these guys into shape. Despite the obvious harm that
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a sex offender could trigger in the members of our
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community who themselves might have been victims of sexual abuse,
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the elite of Harvard's elite continue to nurture a relationship
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with a sex offender. Yeah, because that's what the elite do.
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news for
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anyone who holds these people up on high. But the
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so called elite, Yeah, that's a class of sick ass people,
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a whole group of people who literally have zero morals
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and who do not care about anything that does not
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increase their wealth or their power. And that's not just
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me saying it. Their actions bear it out. Despite the
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clarity of all of our views. Now, they apparently so
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saw no wrong in what all of them were doing then,
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at least until chapter three, when all worked diligently to
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forget what had happened between two thousand and eight and
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twenty and eighteen. Yo. Lessig is going hard in the
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pain here, he's leaving. He's really shooting from the hip
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and giving all of these guys the business as he should.
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It's about time so and at Harvard stood up and
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did the right thing. Harvard's made twenty twenty reports celebrated
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Faust's moral clarity, but it identified some details that required
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further investigation. In in March, Harvard completed that determination. It
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did not release any public accounting. Instead, its conclusions were
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shared internally by email to the affected departments. Predictably, that
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email was leaked, and in this day and age, if
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you have some sort of explosive email and you're in
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a situation like an institution like Harvard, you have to
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expect that the email is getting leaked. So you better
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be on your game, beyond your p's and q's, and
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say exactly what you want to say in that email.
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The effect was completely foreseeable. Airbrush from the history are
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the many Harvard luminaries who participated in and encouraged the
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ongoing relationship with Epstein after two thousand and eight. Left
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standing alone is noak ped's academic director, who is now
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to be disciplined. And disciplined is in quotes, he's not wrong,
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no act will should be while he should be disciplined,
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and he should be in big trouble for all of this,
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and like I said, lose his job. In my opinion,
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all of these other people need to lose their jobs too.
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What's protecting them that they're a trustee, that they're so
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called part of the elite. Enough already with these people,
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and thus we the community are allowed the comfortable view
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that Drew FoST got it right in two thousand and eight,
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and the university followed her lead, even if even if
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a very few among us apparently didn't get the memo.
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So kind of a cover right for Harvard here with
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that statement, Oh, it's not the whole institution. We got
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it right with what Foss said, but there are still
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still some Yes, that doesn't cut it with me. Sorry,
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everybody who was around, Let me be very clear, everybody
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who was around who was involved when Epstein donated that money,
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they need to be fired. Yet this framing is absurd
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and its lie is revealed in the thinness of the
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charges against Martin Noak because Noak has not been punished
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for associating with Epstein. How could he be when so
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many others from Harvard, much more famous and prominent, had
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associated with Epstein as well. And again it comes back
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to for me, anyway, this is a Harvard problem, folks.
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Something stinks at that university. And I wouldn't spend one
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red cent to send my child there, not one cent.
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It is absurd what occurred in those alleged hollowed halls.
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Neither has he been punished because he asked Epstein to
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help him address PDEs funding needs by securing donations from
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Epstein's friend Leon Black. How could he be when Harvard's
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Development Development office itself asked Novak to ask Epstein for help.
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And there's the rub of it, right, And he gets
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to the heart of the issue, in my opinion, and
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that is everybody who is there, everybody involved, all of
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these people that are hitting us with virtuous signaling. Okay,
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the virtue signaling has to stop by these people. Somebody
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has to take responsibility for what occurred. You're all making
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big bucks and with that big money comes big responsibility,
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or it should. Rather, Novak is being disciplined because of
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offenses that are plenty not offenses at all, or that,
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when committed, we're not viewed as anything more than simple mistakes.
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The most extraordinary of these is the Charge and Faculty
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of Arts and Sciences Dean Claude Deine Gay's notification to Noak,
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which states that he exhibited profound negligence in misrepresenting the
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source of peds matching funds to one of his funding sources,
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the Templeton Foundation. This is a gross misrepresentation in itself. Yeah,
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I agree, not a big fan of Claudine Gay or
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the way she handled this, and to make Noak the
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scapegoat and the only one really getting punished is laughable
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considering we know the relationship somebody like Larry Summers had
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with Jeffrey Epstein. If they were to sanction everybody at
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Harvard who had a relationship with Epstein, those would be
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some empty asshols, folks. The May Report had speculated this
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might have happened, but Noax's emails with the Templeton Foundation
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revealed that the precise words used to report his funding
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were actually requested by the foundation. The Templeton found was
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neither confused or misled meaning there could be no misrepresentation.
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So they knew nothing was misrepresented to them. They knew
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exactly what they were getting into, they knew what the
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money was for, and they knew where the money originated.
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They did not care. And that's really what it comes
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down to, That's what it boils down to. The balance
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is just as weak. From the very start, Harvard knew
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Epstein treated PD as his second office. According to the
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May twenty twenty report, Harvard knew as early as two
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thousand and six that Epstein even had his own phone.
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So again, Epstein has set up, got this office, Larry
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Summer sets that up, got himself a phone line. He's
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missed big shit on the campus of Harvard. Now, yeah,
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I'm Jeffrey Epstein. College drop out, drop out here, drop
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out there, but got myself a fellowship at Harvard. What
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an absolute joke and what disrespect to the people who
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actually work hard for those fellowships. According to Noak, Summers
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walked with Epstein as he secured access to ped's offices
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with his own key card. Not once did he or
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the university say that this access was wrong or must end.
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But now Noak is to be disciplined in part because
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PED gave Epstein a different key card after the Harvard
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access system had changed. So even after they changed the system,
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the access system, even after you know, they updated the locks,
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they had to make sure their boy Epstein was taken
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care of, right, They had to make sure their golden
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ticket was taken care of. They had to make sure
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Jeffrey was all right. Sure, I guess one could say
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that a university wide change in security protocols was meant
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to signal to PED that it should stop granting Epstein
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access to the PED offices. But wouldn't a memo from
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the administration have been a clear and cheaper way to
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send that message. Well, they got money to burn there, obviously.
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I mean, with the the insane amount of money they
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charged the students, every single toilet bowl should be gold plated.
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They should all be eating five star meals every night
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in the commissary. And you know, whatever the top Egyptian
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count sheets are, they got to have those. This is Harvard,
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after all. Finally, noaks to be disciplined because the Center
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allowed Epstein's biography to appear on ped's web page after
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Epstein's publicist requested it. Of course, the story of Center
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benefactors commonly appear on Center web pages. Of course they do.
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That's part of it, right, What do you think these
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guys donate all of this money and they don't get
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anything on the flip back? Of course they do. But
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during a period in which Harvard was inviting Jeffrey Epstein
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to the launch of its capital campaign and the most
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elite of the elite at Harvard were regularly meeting with
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Epstein at PED and around Cambridge, Fas blames Noak for
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failing to recognize that it was a misuse of the
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Harvard dot edu domain to reveal Epstein as a friend
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of PED. Wasn't wrong to take his money, okay, wasn't
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wrong to use him as a benefactor, wasn't wrong to
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give him an office, But it was wrong to let
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everybody know that all about saving face. It's never about
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the people who were affected. It's never about the girls
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who were abused, or anything like that. You would think,
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with as much involvement people from Harvard have, that they'd
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start their own sort of program here where they'd offer
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free courses to these gals. None of these offenses would
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have even been noticed but for Harvard's need to appear vigilant,
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if only against one of the very many who continue
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to engage Epstein at Harvard after two thousand and eight.
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That one, it's scapegoat. It was wrong for Harvard to
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continued any association with Epstein after two thousand and eight.
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No one should be forced to live or work in
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an environment that celebrates in any way a man who
29:35
crossed this critical line, or woman at that for that matter.
29:38
Let's let's be very clear. Thirty eight percent of people
29:41
who are engaging in trafficking are women. All right, we
29:45
went through that report already. But the point stands. Nobody
29:49
should feel uncomfortable at work, nobody should feel uncomfortable at school.
29:56
And this environment, I'll tell you what, not an environment
30:00
I'd want my people in. That's for sure. Sex abuse
30:04
is permanent, Its survivors carry its costs forever. All of
30:08
them are entitled, at the very least to an environment
30:12
that does not trigger re traumatization. To have suffered from
30:16
the likes of an Epstein. And then see Harvard's most elite,
30:20
most elite hanging with Epstein is to add injury to insult.
30:26
And that is a fact, that is definitely a fact,
30:29
and it's no different. Let's be very clear. With Kamala
30:32
Harris hanging out with Bill Clinton, we have to be
30:38
consistent here, right, None of these dudes should be given
30:42
air to breathe if they're involved in this sort of thing.
30:48
And this wrong is about much more than funding. It's
30:53
about the continuing relationship with so many at Harvard. Our
30:56
accounting for that is wildly incomplete, betrays the truth and
31:01
a commitment to institutional integrity to allow Harvard to stand
31:05
as innocent while one faculty member went rogue and look,
31:10
I couldn't agree more with what he's saying here, folks.
31:13
I think that noac needs to be disciplined, needs to
31:16
be punished, but everybody does. I just want I want
31:18
to drive that point home. The story of Chapter two
31:23
at Harvard is not the story of one bad apple.
31:26
It is of an institution blinded by what money, brilliance,
31:32
celebrity from what seems to us now as an obvious
31:36
moral truth. Of course, we were right not to take
31:40
Epstein's money after two thousand and eight, but we were
31:43
deeply wrong to continue to celebrate him at Harvard in
31:47
all the ways that so many of the most prominent
31:51
among us did. That is powerful, and he's calling to
31:56
account all of his colleagues on campus who took part
32:01
in refurbishing this guy's image and helping him have this access.
32:10
That wrong is not excused or hidden with a scapegoat.
32:14
We need an honest accounting of that past and a
32:16
plan for how Harvard will avoid this failure in the future.
32:20
Should all criminals be banished always? Should particular criminals, those
32:25
whose crimes particularly affect members of the Harvard community be
32:29
banished always? And by always, I don't mean for any purpose.
32:33
An event at which a criminal was asked to reflect
32:36
on at least some crimes or even offer his justification
32:40
could be different, at least if properly framed, from a
32:43
workshop in which the criminal is just one more participant,
32:47
celebrated only, or especially because he happens to be rich.
32:53
These are hard questions, no doubt, especially in an age
32:56
of tweet length attention spans. Boy, I get a clap
33:00
from the back of the room. There. That is exactly
33:04
the age we're in, the attention span of a tweet.
33:08
But it betrays our tradition to hide from these more
33:11
complicated questions simply because some might misunderstand we are a
33:16
university that openly and eagerly engaged with the child sex predator,
33:21
not just before he was convicted, but long after. How
33:25
did our culture allow this to happen? And how can
33:28
we now allow this failure to be obscured by scapegoating?
33:32
Just one, Yes, Harvard's virtue has been signaled to anyone
33:38
blind to what actually happened right here among us. But
33:42
the vice of what happened, the open and regular engagement
33:46
with a sex offender, has not been reckoned here. It
33:50
is that which Harvard must finally account for, openly, fairly,
33:57
and honestly. Well, folks, there you have it, somebody finally
34:05
connected to Harvard, somebody with a serious voice on campus
34:11
calling his colleagues to account. If you like to contact me,
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you can do that at Bobby Kapuchi at ProtonMail dot com.
34:21
That's bo bb Y c ap you Cci at ProtonMail
34:26
dot com. You can also find me on Twitter at
34:29
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description box. All right, everybody, I'll be back later on
34:42
and we'll pick it up where we left off. What's up, everyone,
34:46
and welcome to another episode of the Epstein chronicles. Yo,
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you ever get the feeling like you're being played by
34:53
the people who swear they're the best and the brightest. Well,
34:56
that's Harvard, the soul called crown jewel of American higher learning,
35:01
the place that lectures everybody else about ethics, equity, and truth. Well,
35:06
turns out their version of truth is just a thin
35:08
coat of paint over a rotting beam. They didn't just
35:12
take Epstein's dirty money. They didn't just look the other way.
35:15
They gave the guy an office for Christ's sake, a
35:18
convicted predator, a human cockroach strolling Harvard's haulls like he's faculty.
35:23
And the same suits who tell working class parents they're
35:26
not Harvard material were nodding and smiling at him like
35:29
he was royalty. And don't gimme the weheed at no line.
35:33
We're not stupid. The whole country knew who Epstein was
35:35
by then. It was in the papers, it was in
35:38
the court records. He wasn't some mystery donor in a
35:41
trench coat sliding a check under the door. Harvard knew
35:44
exactly what they were doing, laundering a monster's reputation for
35:48
a cut of the cash. Integrity and leadership go out
35:51
the window when a billionaire creep waves a few million bucks.
35:55
They held their noses, they took the money, and then
35:57
they puffed out their chests about their values. And now
36:01
with these Bloomberg emails, holy hell, the mask isn't just slipping,
36:05
it's gone pulled clean off. We're seeing what they really are, scrambling, scheming,
36:10
trying to keep the gravy train going while whispering to
36:13
each other how sensitive this all is sensitive, homie. No,
36:18
it's revolting. It's sickening. It's the kind of slime you
36:21
expect from back alley mob outfits, not the premier university
36:25
in the world. And keeping it a buck. The whole
36:27
thing reeks a power worship and moral bankruptcy. These people
36:31
would hand out diplomas to the devil himself if he
36:34
wrote a big enough check. And then they'll still go
36:37
on TV and they'll still tell the rest of us
36:39
about ethics and leadership and the future of democracy, like
36:42
there's some kind of moral compass for the country. Yo,
36:45
you gotta spare me, and you have to spare everybody else.
36:49
They have no compass. They've got a cash register. They
36:52
use depstein like a bank machine, and let him use
36:55
Harvard like a human shield. And when the heat came down,
36:58
they tried to shove it under the and hope the
37:00
rest of us forgot. But the emails prove what we
37:03
already suspected. Harvard wasn't just asleep at the wheel. They
37:07
were driving the damn car. And look, if you're from
37:10
where I'm from, you don't get away with that kind
37:13
of shit. You still you lie, you cover for a predator,
37:16
you're out. But at Harvard you get a bigger title,
37:19
a fancy your office, and another photo lot. And these
37:22
sons of bitches wonder why the rest of the country's
37:24
fed up. They wonder why people like me are furious.
37:28
This isn't just about one Sicico and one Ivy League school.
37:31
It's about a system where money and connections are a
37:34
shame or rased justice and erase basic decency. And Harvard
37:38
they're not the victims, they're the poster child. This article
37:43
is from the Harvard Crimson and the headline Jeffrey Epstein's
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emails revealed close correspondence with Harvard professors. Bloomberg Reports. This
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article was authored by Wyeth Renwick. Nina J. Trevetti and
37:59
Annabelle You, who are all writers for The Crimson. Several
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Harvard professors, including Social Science Division Dean Stephen M. Coslin,
38:09
education professor Howard E. Gardner, and former Harvard Medical School
38:13
professor Mark Tramo, maintained contact with convicted of sex offender
38:18
Jeffrey Epstein after he was first indicted in two thousand
38:21
and six for soliciting prostitution. And we know it was
38:24
a lot more than that breaking news. Children cannot be prostitutes,
38:31
so how was he soliciting prostitution when he was picking
38:34
up little girls from high school? Epstein planned gatherings and
38:38
discussed funding for Harvard research with the professors who offered
38:42
the now deceased felon words of encouragement after the first
38:45
indictment was filed, According to a collection of more than
38:48
eighteen thousand emails from Epstein's inbox obtained by Bloomberg News,
38:53
and you can always tell a lot about a person
38:56
by what they say when they think nobody else is
38:58
paying attention. It's easy to say things in public that
39:02
people agree with that people are going to look at
39:04
you and say, oh, this guy's a great guy. But
39:06
what are you saying, when them doors closed, what are
39:09
you saying in the so called confidence of the people
39:11
that you trust. And well, now we know what they
39:13
were saying at Harvard, and none of it was good.
39:18
Between Epstein's indictments in two thousand and six and subsequent
39:22
guilty please to soliciting prostitution with a minor in two
39:26
thousand and eight, Costlin sent Epstein emails arranging dinner with
39:30
other scholars and with Harvard Law School professor Alan M. Dershowitz,
39:34
Epstein's close friend and attorney. Now, Alan Dershowitz will have
39:38
you believe that he was just Epstein's attorney and that's
39:41
where it began and where it ended. But I don't
39:44
think that's the case. And in fact, the relationship between
39:48
Jeffrey Epstein and Alan Dershowitz is a lot deeper than
39:52
mister Dershowitz admits. Now, does that mean that mister Dershowitz
39:55
was involved and anything Epstein was doing. Well, we know
39:59
what Virginia, and then we also know that Virginia and
40:02
Alan Dershowitz decided to end their dueling lawsuits. Now, I
40:06
said at the time, I think it had to do
40:09
with the fact that Virginia had just had enough at
40:11
that point. I mean, she spent basically her whole life
40:14
fighting these lawsuits, battling in court, arguing, having her name
40:18
dragged through the mud. And I think that all of
40:21
the other factors in Virginia's life at the time led
40:23
to her just saying, you know what, enough is enough.
40:26
Let's drop these lawsuits. What am I going to gain.
40:28
It's not like anyone's paying attention. It's not like anyone's
40:31
going to call for jail time. So I've always said
40:35
that I think Virginia dropped the lawsuit or was willing
40:38
to drop the lawsuit, because she just had enough at
40:41
that point and there was nothing left to prove or
40:43
gain for her. Gardner sent Epstein a list of book
40:47
recommendations and promised to follow up with advice about offsprings.
40:52
Two months after Epstein pleaded guilty to two stage charges.
40:55
Gardner advised him to take a deep breath and take
40:57
one day at a time. See, and there's the difference
41:00
between me and mister Gardner, because I'd be telling my
41:03
soul call friend, I want you to take a deep
41:05
breath while you're under water and drown yourself, because anybody
41:10
who does this to children, does this to anybody not
41:13
a friend of mine. And I don't care how deep
41:15
we are, I don't care how far we go back.
41:19
And let me tell you what. I have some friends
41:21
that are in prison right now as we speak, for life,
41:24
for murder, for all kinds of wild stuff, and they're
41:28
still my friends. There's only a few different crimes out there,
41:32
in my opinion, that are unforgivable. And when you start
41:35
targeting children, women, elderly, the vulnerable, that makes you a predator.
41:41
And there should never be any kind of forgiveness or
41:44
mercy shown to people that are going to target the
41:46
most vulnerable amongst us. Epstein's size to Harvard are well established.
41:51
He gave at least nine point one million to fund
41:53
university programs and faculty led research projects in the nineties
41:58
and the early two thousands, any foreign personal ties with
42:02
many Harvard scholars. The signature of both current mathematic professor
42:06
Martine Noek and Henry Rozowski, the former Faculty in Arts
42:10
Science dean and two time acting Harvard president, appear in
42:14
Epstein's infamous two thousand and three birthday book. A university
42:18
spokesperson did not respond for a request to comment. Of
42:21
course not. They're not gonna have anything to say. They
42:24
want you to forget about this. They want you to
42:26
think that this never happened. They want you to think
42:29
that Harvard had nothing to do with Epstein. Well they
42:32
did not. Only did they enable them, they helped refurbish
42:36
his image, right, and that led to more people getting abused.
42:40
So Harvard needs to be called out onto the carpet. Coslin,
42:46
whose signature also appears in the book, shared Harvard's psychology
42:50
department from two thousand and five to two thousand and
42:52
eight and served as a social science dean from two
42:55
thousand and eight to twenty ten. According to Bloomberg, he
42:58
discussed accepting the deanship with Epstein via email, writing again
43:02
a month later that he wanted to visit Epstein. Oh,
43:05
I'm sure he did. I wonder what he wanted when
43:07
he visited Epstein. That's the real question. A bunch of
43:10
degenerate scumbags. Unfortunately, jail starts Monday, Epstein wrote back. According
43:16
to Bloomberg, Costlin's research received two hundred thousand dollars from
43:21
Epstein between ninety eight and two thousand and two. He
43:25
also wrote a letter of recommendation advocating for Epstein to
43:28
be named a visiting fellow in the psychology department during
43:32
a two thousand and five six school year, despite Epstein's
43:35
lack of relevant academic credentials. Costlin is currently president of
43:40
an ai education company and did not respond to a
43:43
request for comment. Of course not, none of them are
43:46
going to respond. They're going to play the long game, right,
43:50
the game of we didn't know, We still have no idea.
43:53
Why are you even bothering us with this? This is
43:55
old news. Didn't you hear what the president said. Gardner
43:58
is still a professor at the Harvard Graduate School of
44:01
Education and wrote in a statement to The Crimson that
44:03
Epstein had funded some of his research in the nineties
44:06
and early two thousands. Once he had been arrested, I
44:09
made it clear to him that I could no longer
44:11
accept any funding, but as a friend and beneficiary of
44:14
his philanthropy, I tried to be supportive. Gardner wrote, of course,
44:18
no one I knew, which included dozens of Harvard faculty,
44:22
had any idea of the nature and extent of Epstein's crimes,
44:25
which only became clear in the following years. Oh yeah,
44:29
nobody had any idea. Huh, which is just absolutely false,
44:35
absolutely false. Bloomberger reported that Costlin also communicated with HMS
44:41
genetics professor George M. Church and Gary B. Rovcom, who
44:45
won a Nobel Prize in twenty twenty four, about encouraging
44:49
Epstein to fund a research project on pleasure signals in
44:52
the brain. Oh well, why not talk about some fucking
44:56
wild ass experiment on the island of Doctor Moreau. I
45:00
shall again try to drive home the point about the
45:03
pleasure genome initiative, Rovcom wrote in a February two thousand
45:07
and six email to Costlin, let me know if this
45:09
subject is too strange for our patron. Too strange, Huh,
45:13
it's not strange enough. We're talking about a guy who
45:15
wanted to cut off his wanger and freeze it, a
45:18
guy who thought he was going to seed humanity with
45:21
his own DNA and seed. Pretty sure that you have
45:25
the right donor for this dumbass project. After the correspondence
45:30
was forwarded to Epstein, Epstein wrote to his assistant that
45:33
the patron has no boundaries. According to Bloomberg, it's unclear
45:36
whether Epstein ever donated to such a project. Yeah, no boundaries,
45:40
for sure. And we're not talking about, you know, the
45:43
brand from Walmart or Target or whatever the fuck. This
45:46
is a man who didn't care about anything but what
45:49
he wanted, and all these people around him were more
45:51
than happy to help him get whatever he wanted as
45:54
long as they were catching a little something on the
45:56
back end. A few weeks before his indictment, Epstein wrote
46:00
in an email about his plans to fund the Harvard
46:03
Genome project run by Church. An itemized budget found in
46:07
his email also showed plans to spend one million on
46:09
the project. According to Bloomberg, Ruughkin and Church are both
46:13
still genetic professors at HMS. Neither responded or request for comment. Well,
46:19
isn't that nice bunch of Jeffrey Epstein's patrons running around
46:25
working for the HMS. No wonder you can't get your
46:29
broken arm fixed. Epstein's inbox also contained an exchange with
46:34
Paul Weiss's partner at HLS graduate Mitchell D. Weber, from
46:38
two thousand and six, when Weber was working as a
46:41
research assistant for Dershowitz, Epstein's lawyer. Weber, who took notes
46:46
for Dershowitz during meetings with Epstein's legal team, wrote Epstein
46:50
in June two thousand and six to address a question
46:52
concerning the legality of transporting a minor for sex. Well,
46:56
imagine great question. Huh. Hey, mister so and so, I
47:02
have a question for you. I'm thinking about, you know,
47:04
transporting this miner for sex. Can you help guide me?
47:09
I'm sorry I was a little confused about what you
47:11
were asking on the phone, Weber wrote, I see what
47:14
you were asking. Now. The question is what would happen
47:17
if one were to transport a miner for sex, or
47:20
transport oneself with intent to have sex with a minor
47:23
into a state in which the edge of consent is
47:26
below eighteen Assuming the minor is above the edge of
47:29
consent in the given state and your intuition was right,
47:32
the answer is that there is no violation of the law.
47:36
So what they're doing basically is looking for ways to
47:38
skirt the law. What can I get away with? What
47:40
can I get away with? Completely disgusting. Epstein then responded
47:46
to Weber's email asking to research sex tourism laws. Next,
47:49
Weber declined to comment on the email exchange. Though this
47:53
particular exchange does not include emails from Dershowitz, several separate
47:57
emails from them were reported by Bloomberg. In one, he
48:01
vowed as one of his close friends that Epstein never
48:04
participated in sex with miners, so he lied. Dershowitz, you're
48:09
a liar, okay when it comes to that topic. What
48:11
you said about Epstein participating with insects with miners, you lied?
48:15
So what else are you lying about? Bro had no
48:18
problem calling the parogi guy in Martha's Vineyard a liar,
48:21
had no problem calling Virginia Roberts a liar. Well, I
48:25
guess it would take one to know one huh in another.
48:29
Dershowitz pledged when the full story finally comes out, the
48:33
world will learn what we already know, that Jeffrey is
48:35
a good person who does many good things. Dershowitz did
48:39
not respond to requests for comment. No, he has to
48:42
go back into the bunker first and come up with
48:44
a narrative. He'll have some kind of stupid narrative for this.
48:47
Make no mistake. When news broke in two thousand and
48:51
seven that Epstein would plead guilty to soliciting prostitution. Tramo,
48:55
who left Harvard in two thousand and nine and currently
48:58
teaches at the University of California, Los Angeles, wrote to
49:01
offer a message of solidarity. Please remind him that the
49:04
boys from the Bronx, even if they end up at Harvard,
49:07
have long memories, know all about cops, and stay true
49:11
to their friends through thick and thin, no less peccadillos,
49:14
Tramo wrote. In an emailed statement to the Crimson, Tramol
49:17
wrote that he was first introduced to Epstein in the
49:20
late nineties by then Harvard Provost Harry Feinberg, who had
49:25
asked Tramo to sit with Epstein, then a board member
49:28
of the university's Mind, Brain, and Behavior into a faculty initiative.
49:32
Feinberg did not respond to her request for comment Monday evening.
49:36
Of course not None of them are going to say
49:37
anything because they know that they're in the wrong and
49:40
they don't want to make it worse than it already is. I,
49:44
like several of my Harvard and MIT colleagues at the time,
49:47
had no knowledge of his horrible crimes. I never asked
49:50
or read about what he had happened. In two thousand
49:52
and six and seven, Tramo wrote, I had been duped
49:55
to believe he had committed some minor offense and that
49:58
he was just being harassed by police. Imagine being this smart,
50:02
a Harvard professor, the whole thing, and acting like you
50:05
got duped. Nobody believes this, And if you did get duped,
50:09
you need to find a new line of work. You
50:10
shouldn't be teaching kids, you dumb fuck. I never visited
50:15
Epstein's island, never flew on his planes, and never saw
50:18
him with young girls. Tramo wrote. At the twenty one
50:21
club dinner, he was accompanied by a thirty ish year
50:24
old woman. I had no idea he was a pervert.
50:26
How do you know how old a woman was? We
50:28
have some kind of special ability. You can look at
50:31
somebody until their age. Epstein died by suicide in prison,
50:36
allegedly in twenty nineteen while awaiting trial on federal sex
50:40
trafficking charges. Well, look, I've been talking about Harvard and
50:44
the problems at Harvard when it comes to Ebstein for years,
50:47
and these emails are just confirming everything that we knew previously.
50:51
And I think that as we move forward, I think
50:54
we're going to see more damning evidence that damns more people.
50:57
And I don't even think there's a question about that. However,
51:00
the real question is, after these people are outed, and
51:03
after this information becomes public, what then. All of the
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