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KickAround #429 - Saturday Night Sauna by the Sea · The Ticket Sportsradio 1310 and 96.7 FM

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  Speaker 1: It's time for the Kick Around the tickets weekly show
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  Speaker 1: all about soccer.
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  Speaker 2: Two hours of hso's on the clubs, leagues and tournaments
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  Speaker 2: of the world's gay It doesn't matter if you're new
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  Speaker 2: to the sport.
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  Speaker 1: Don't worry. This is the ticket. We're just kicking it around.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Here's two guys who still have their moms drive them
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  Speaker 2: to practice. Andy Swift and Peter Welton.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Harry Wilson is marked his territory and he's had
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  Speaker 1: a good Harry Wilson wins it for Fulham, way out.
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  Speaker 3: Using the wind and far too much on it for
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  Speaker 3: for Brogan and Futom.
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  Speaker 2: Snatch it at the deck, Harry Ethan Wilson, Heidaho pe Ones,
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  Speaker 2: and welcome to a very special kick around back in
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  Speaker 2: our natural habitat.
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  Speaker 1: Of Saturday two to four here on the Sport.
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  Speaker 2: Radio ninety six to seven and thirteen ten the ticket
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  Speaker 2: where you the good pe one sits around, talks the
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  Speaker 2: old soccer and all that implies. Hello, I'm Peter and
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  Speaker 2: to my digital left, and I think this still applies
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  Speaker 2: to your right as you stare lovingly into your radio
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  Speaker 2: or streaming device. It is the world's most interesting man
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  Speaker 2: in his pajamas, Andy Swift.
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  Speaker 3: Peter, and you're not in your pajamas.
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  Speaker 1: It's just me.
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  Speaker 2: I am in my pH Okay, that's what I thought.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in my gr animals.
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  Speaker 3: It's weird, huh.
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  Speaker 2: I have my Manchester United animals on matching top and bottom.
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  Speaker 3: Does your pillow your bed pillow? Is it a man
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  Speaker 3: United pillow? Man United logo pillow?
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  Speaker 1: I plead the fifth.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I thought.
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  Speaker 1: This is an interesting question.
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  Speaker 2: How many things do you have in your day to
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  Speaker 2: day existence that are somehow one way or the other
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  Speaker 2: labeled with something Liverpool on it, meaning clothes or like
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  Speaker 2: I have a Manchester United coffee mug.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Liverpool alone, probably not a lot, a couple, but
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  Speaker 3: if you count FC Dallas Flamingo, that increases. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I've got I've got some multiple teams.
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  Speaker 2: We've got some burn stuff around the house too, I
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  Speaker 2: think about it, of course you do.
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  Speaker 1: I've got lots of red stuff stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we are, like many on the radio station today,
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  Speaker 2: doing this remotely due to mister winter storm, and we
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  Speaker 2: will be doing our best. Lars will be joining us.
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  Speaker 2: He will be none impressed by our winter situation here,
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  Speaker 2: as he is in Norway, and so we'll catch up
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  Speaker 2: with Lars and talk about the big shocking day in
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  Speaker 2: the Premier League and also uh, this last week in
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  Speaker 2: the Champions League and is the we lead into the
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  Speaker 2: final week of.
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  Speaker 1: The group stage and the Champions League. We'll catch up
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  Speaker 1: all with that.
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  Speaker 2: Will also do a little World Cup nerd and then
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  Speaker 2: America's favorite soccer segment known as the Dribble. But we
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  Speaker 2: will start with the most important of all the soccer segments.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for soccer.
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  Speaker 2: Soccer soccer. Thank you, mister voiceover man. Uh, shocking news
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  Speaker 2: in the world of football. Byron Munich Andy lost their
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  Speaker 2: first Bundesliga game of the season, losing today to Osberg,
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  Speaker 2: who scored twice in six minutes to overcome a one
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  Speaker 2: goal deficit and beat the Giants two to one.
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  Speaker 3: Is that Peppi's former team?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: So is it Osburg?
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  Speaker 1: Was it Osburg?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I think it was? Yeah, I think it. Look at them, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know what?
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  Speaker 3: And this is on me, but I didn't realize that
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  Speaker 3: Byron was undefeated so far this year, did you? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: were you on top of that?
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  Speaker 2: I you know, I knew they were undefeated a bit ago,
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  Speaker 2: but I also but I don't think I realized that
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  Speaker 2: it would had continued this late into the season, because
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm not a regular bon watcher. Boondus watcher,
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  Speaker 2: I think is what the official term is. Now there's
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  Speaker 2: still I think eleven points clear, so you know, yes,
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  Speaker 2: nothing no, no real danger or anything for Bayern Munich
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  Speaker 2: and then.
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  Speaker 3: They wanted to repeat what what Leberkuzen did right so
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  Speaker 3: fresh on their minds. They're eight points ahead of Doorman.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, do you really think they care about
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  Speaker 2: that boon over there at Byron Munich?
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  Speaker 1: Do you really think that's even just a second of
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  Speaker 1: a minute of their thoughts? Yeah? I didn't either. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Something else we mentioned this last week and Jay, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna ask you to play this because we had a
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  Speaker 2: lot of different goal calls uh to pull from for
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  Speaker 2: the open But Harry Wilson's just blowing me away for
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  Speaker 2: Fulham and did it again today with that last second
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  Speaker 2: free kick to win it for Fulham over.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it was Brighton today.
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  Speaker 2: But we mentioned Wrexham last week. Andy's favorite other team
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  Speaker 2: that he doesn't talk about very much because his uh,
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  Speaker 2: his boyfriend, the guy on his yeah, his hall, his
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  Speaker 2: hall pass from his wife.
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  Speaker 1: It would be Ryan Reynolds. Uh rex Res.
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  Speaker 2: Wrexham got a stunning late wind day over q p R.
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  Speaker 2: Let's listen to the winning goal. Boy rock Bone now
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  Speaker 2: whips into the box.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a tack drops lace morn is that come back?
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  Speaker 1: Get that it's hacked away rock Boom call some this
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  Speaker 1: we got nine seconds after the four out of the
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  Speaker 1: minutes ration. I'nder the minutes home rock Boom long ra.
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  Speaker 2: I love that man, Holy rock Boe. Not my children,
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  Speaker 2: please take them such a So that's the same uh
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  Speaker 2: game call guy from the TV show, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: It has to be because it's their guy, right Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I would assume it's the same guy that was that
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  Speaker 2: was such a fantastic goal call.
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  Speaker 1: So the story, the.
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  Speaker 2: Reason why this is significant is that Wrexham was down
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  Speaker 2: two to one when they went into added time and
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  Speaker 2: then QPR had a player thrown out for a red
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  Speaker 2: and with the man advantage, mister Windass great classic English
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  Speaker 2: soccer player last name scores in the ninety third and
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  Speaker 2: wrath Bone hit a absolute dart from distance to win
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  Speaker 2: the game in the ninety fourth.
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  Speaker 3: Hold the wind Ass tide and wrath Bone won it.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, you're just making sure.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, nail it, got it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I just want everybody to note that Andy Swift is
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  Speaker 2: working Blue today on the radio. So here's the most
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  Speaker 2: insane part. Rexham, by the way, has not been doing
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  Speaker 2: themselves a ton of favors. They've been leaving all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of points on the tape. I think they have more
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  Speaker 2: draws this season than anybody else in the in the championship. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And what that means is is that despite that, they've
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  Speaker 2: still kind of been hanging around on the table. But
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  Speaker 2: with this win, they are now in six, which is
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  Speaker 2: the last of the playoff or promotion playoff spots, so
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  Speaker 2: on forty four points, and that also means they're a
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  Speaker 2: mere six points, yes, six points away. Oh no, I
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  Speaker 2: take that back there, a little further back from the
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  Speaker 2: from the automatic spots, there are eleven points eleven out
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  Speaker 2: of that. But man, they're looking good for a promotion spot.
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  Speaker 2: And could you imagine what a season of welcome direcsom.
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  Speaker 1: Would be like?
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  Speaker 3: It would be unreal.
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  Speaker 2: If they qualified and got promoted to the Premiership with
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  Speaker 2: four straight promotions from the National League all the way up.
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  Speaker 3: But just imagine, imagine the fandom, like if they make
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  Speaker 3: it to the Premier League, the fandom in the US
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  Speaker 3: for that team and what it would do. I think
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  Speaker 3: it would be another seminal moment for not just NBC,
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  Speaker 3: but for the EPL fandom in the US if Wrexham
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  Speaker 3: goes up, and I mean I think it would. I
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  Speaker 3: think it would create new fans. I really do.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it would one hundred percent. My parents would start
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  Speaker 2: watching games probably if they could get up on a
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  Speaker 2: Saturday morning and watch Wrexham on NBC.
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  Speaker 1: Or Peacock or whatever because they love the TV show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and have you kept up with the stadium situation,
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  Speaker 3: like yere is that? So what's the latest there?
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  Speaker 2: They are still constructing their the end at the at
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  Speaker 2: the you know when you watch it on TV, it's
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  Speaker 2: the stands to the right side. It's called the cop end,
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  Speaker 2: and so they're still reconstructing that. But the plans around
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  Speaker 2: that continue to grow because they're trying to obviously add
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  Speaker 2: more and more seats as this becomes more and more popular. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, ticket revenue is going to become a bigger
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  Speaker 2: and bigger thing as we move forward through English football,
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  Speaker 2: So that continues to grow and become a real deal.
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  Speaker 2: And man, I'm telling you their season started so poorly,
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  Speaker 2: and I you know, I was like, okay, well, that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Championship. It's a big jump from League One
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  Speaker 2: to the Championship. Nobody should really expect them to do this.
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  Speaker 2: But goodness gracious, I mean it was already undone what
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  Speaker 2: they've done so far. But to get promoted four straight
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  Speaker 2: times and do it and get into the Premier League.
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  Speaker 2: How quickly would Rob and Ryan sell the team at
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  Speaker 2: that point?
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  Speaker 3: Majority they'd keep a minority interest? Yeah, how many does
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  Speaker 3: the stadium seed? I'm just I'm looking ahead. I shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: do this because I have to do it, but I'm just, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. It would it be less than what Bournemouth?
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  Speaker 2: No, No, it's bigger than the Bournemouth stage, I'm fairly certain. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I think with the with the plans they have
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  Speaker 2: for the cop, I think it takes it to twenty eight.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, that's okay, that's more than that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of talking out of my butt. Yeah. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Rexham beat.
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  Speaker 2: QPR today and are in sixth place in the Championship,
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  Speaker 2: So everybody put a pin in that as we head
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  Speaker 2: towards the final part of the Sea. The other big
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: news in the sport this week was that what was
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  Speaker 2: going to happen to Trinity Rodman and her situation in
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  Speaker 2: the NWSL. Well, it got settled because her contract was up.
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  Speaker 2: She was getting a lot of attention from clubs overseas
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  Speaker 2: who were willing to pay her a lot more money
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  Speaker 2: than the Washington Spirit, by league rules, was allowed to
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  Speaker 2: pay her and sub so there was like an initial
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  Speaker 2: contract they put together that would have paid her a
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  Speaker 2: little over a million dollars a year, and the league
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  Speaker 2: scrapped it. Well after that, the league put together a
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  Speaker 2: new the NWSL version of the designated player rule that
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  Speaker 2: drives us all nuts from MLS.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well now it's called the Rodman rule. Uh, and I
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  Speaker 2: think what is that? What do they call it? That?
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  Speaker 2: There's a specific high high impact player rule, the hip rule,
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  Speaker 2: And uh, they use this rule which there's a whole
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  Speaker 2: list of bullet points that define what a player if
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  Speaker 2: a player qualifies, which would allow a club to pay
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  Speaker 2: that player up to a million dollars more than the
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  Speaker 2: salary cap, which is right at three million dollars a year. Well,
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  Speaker 2: they worked it all out Trinity has signed her deal
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  Speaker 2: with Washington. She will make in total two million bucks
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  Speaker 2: a year for the next three years, and not only
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  Speaker 2: is she the highest paid player in the NWSL, she
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  Speaker 2: is now the highest paid female soccer player on Earth.
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  Speaker 3: Probably that's something I just, you know, can the league
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  Speaker 3: sustain this.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of I don't know, you know, there are a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people making a lot of I mean, this
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  Speaker 2: is not dissimilar to what's going on with the WNBA,
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  Speaker 2: which is the female players making a lot of noise
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  Speaker 2: about wanting to make more money. And we all know
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  Speaker 2: that that's a league that's been losing money hand over
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  Speaker 2: fist for quite some time. The NWSL, I assume, is
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  Speaker 2: yet to be a money making venture.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, yeah, it's it's like MLS one point oh
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  Speaker 3: day still remember, but they needed it was a double
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  Speaker 3: edged so you needed to sign her, right, you needed
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  Speaker 3: to keep her here. It was important to the league
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  Speaker 3: for the branding of the league and the marketing. It
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  Speaker 3: just seems like it's a lot of money, but you
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  Speaker 3: know it, sometimes you just have to spend to make
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  Speaker 3: money in the future. Yeah, that's probably something they needed
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  Speaker 3: to do.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's a weird situation because the league is still relatively young,
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  Speaker 2: but they've been losing some big name American players to
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  Speaker 2: specifically the NWSL, which is England's top flight in the
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: women's league. Alyssa Thompson has gone over to play at Chelsea,
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  Speaker 2: along with the Naomi Germa who had already gone over there,
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: Sam Coffee, I had forgotten this. She's leaving Portland to
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  Speaker 2: go play at Manchester City, they confirmed last week. So
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  Speaker 2: they've really struggled here in the United State States to
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  Speaker 2: keep some of the biggest name American players here Stateside
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  Speaker 2: for a league that I think most people who really
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  Speaker 2: are into women's soccer will say, from top to bottom,
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  Speaker 2: the women's league in the United States is better than
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  Speaker 2: the leagues over in Europe, with the exception of the
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  Speaker 2: top teams from each of the domestic leagues like in
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  Speaker 2: Spain or England. You know, you've take man City in
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  Speaker 2: Barcelona and you know a team from Germany or France
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  Speaker 2: and bring them over here, they be equitable. But from
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  Speaker 2: the table, from top to bottom is considerably more competitive
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  Speaker 2: here in the United States. But a lot of players
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  Speaker 2: just want to have the romance and the opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: go play for those big historic clubs over in Europe
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  Speaker 2: and you really can't blame them.
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  Speaker 1: No, and.
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  Speaker 3: Because they can also make a decent amount of money.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's the combination of both those things. So
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  Speaker 3: I think this was this was definitely a signal that
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  Speaker 3: this league needed to send.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. And at two million bucks a year being the
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  Speaker 2: highest paid email player on Earth, you know, when you
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  Speaker 2: compare that to so many different men's sports across all
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  Speaker 2: the you know, not just soccer, but all the sports,
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  Speaker 2: that's you know, that's not a lot of money really
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  Speaker 2: when you think about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So Trinity Rodman staying over at Washington Spirit and making
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  Speaker 2: some money to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations to her.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well let's take our break. That's it for headlines.
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  Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll pipe in the good Lars
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  Speaker 2: Sivertstein from somewhere in glorious Norway, and we will talk
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  Speaker 2: about Andy's bad day.
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  Speaker 3: And this is this is it for me for the
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  Speaker 3: show today.
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  Speaker 2: Andy's electricity and or internet may mysteriously conk out while
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  Speaker 2: we're on break. We'll come back and talk about Liverpool's
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  Speaker 2: loss here next on the Kick Around, an interesting final
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: week of the group stage coming up the Champions League,
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: and we'll discuss that here in just a bit on
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: ye old kicker out welcome back. As you've probably surmised
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: at this point, we're doing the show remotely from all
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  Speaker 2: of our little unfrozen hovels around the area, and to
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  Speaker 2: add into the fun via the miracle of the internet,
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  Speaker 2: live from somewhere and equally cold, but.
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  Speaker 1: Probably way more snowy Norway.
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  Speaker 2: It is your favorite Norwegian football journalist in mine, Lars
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  Speaker 2: Sibbertston Howdie, Lars, Hello, got.
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  Speaker 1: The same temperature as you guys. I looked it up
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  Speaker 1: about twenty fahrenheits yeah, what is that? In celsius minus
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  Speaker 1: six is what it is now. I was actually walking.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: I was walking through the sort of port area of Oslo,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: coming up to the broadcast here now. And you know
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: what we have is a big thing in Norway now
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: as public saunas by the sea where you can go
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: into the sauna and then you can take a quick dip.
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  Speaker 1: Now would you believe it? Why sat on a Saturday
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  Speaker 1: night with twenty degrees outside, the place was packed. People
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  Speaker 1: were getting sauna and hanging around outside in there in
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  Speaker 1: there swim swimwear and then some of them are taking
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  Speaker 1: dips in the sea. I think. I mean that my
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  Speaker 1: my Norwedrian brethren. They're harsh, They're they're hardly people.
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  Speaker 2: Andy, would you go for a sauna and a twenty
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  Speaker 2: and minus six celsius? Would you do that?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: Do you even walk outside?
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  Speaker 1: No? Yeah? Yeah, you go, yeah, you go outside?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, no, yes, sir, I do like
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  Speaker 3: the cold weather. It is I am. I am cold
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  Speaker 3: weather partial, but I will not go in water in
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  Speaker 3: the cold weather like this.
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  Speaker 1: We're not going to dwell on this because it's a
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  Speaker 1: short segment. But I spent a year of my life
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  Speaker 1: living in Finland. There we had a public sauna by
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  Speaker 1: the lake, same arrangement, and once I went there when
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  Speaker 1: it was minus eighteen farenhouse outside, and I went into
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  Speaker 1: the sauna and then into the lake and then back in,
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  Speaker 1: and it was so cold that when you were coming
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  Speaker 1: out of the lake, the water that was dripping off you,
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  Speaker 1: it froze right there on your skin. It was quite something.
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  Speaker 2: Shrinkage, no common, Peter, Oh sorry, okay, let's get into
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  Speaker 2: the day in the Premier League. Boy, what a result
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: at the very last second of the last game of
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  Speaker 2: the day. Andy, I'm sorry, buddy, I'm sorry to.
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  Speaker 1: Do this to you.
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  Speaker 2: Liverpool two Bournemouth three. This is I believe I'm correct
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: in saying, Lawres this is Ariola's first points ever against Liverpool.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not not. I didn't know that, Peter. That's that's
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: good research.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's correct.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Delighted. He looked very, very happy at the end of
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: that game. Ariola looked like he'd won the title or something,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: and I mean it was it was richly deserved in
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: terms of the chances created in the game, really really dramatic.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Arnes Slat looked low after this game, I have to say.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was their first defeat in a while,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: but he looked like he was not in a good place.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, uh Andy, I'm just gonna I'm gonna turn to you.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: You are the resident kick around Liverpool fanboy. Liverpool are
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: winless in their last six They've only won two games
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: in this calendar year. One was in the FA Cup.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: In the other was it against the third place team
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: in League h Marseille. The rest of it has not
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: been good. Are you concerned about mister Slot's place as
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: manager of Liverpool?
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Why are you trolling me? Why are you laughing? And
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: snickering when you say all those things, it's not nice.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: By the way, the correct way to save to say
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: this score is Bournemouth three Liverpool two, so that you
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: show that Bournemouth was at home and this was a
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: road game for Liverpool, a very tough road game, going
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: on the road in difficult conditions in the wind.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: You know what wins.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Wasn't it breezy?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I was, man. They're just they're just not good this year.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: What do you want me to say? We've talked about
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: it on nauseum. Right, they are not the same team
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: clearly obviously that won the title last year. But they're
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: just not very good and they have a hard time
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: scoring goals because they don't, you know, once they get
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: to the final third, they have a hard time figuring
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: out what to do with the ball. They're defending has
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: been subpar. Van Dijk has you know, you saw him
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: play today? He was you know, he's a part and
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Lars, would it be unfair to say that mister van
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Dyke had no small part in all three born with goals.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a great one for Virgil von Dyke, and
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a difficult thing when you get
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: players who have such an incredibly high status because of
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: what they've achieved with the club, and rightly so. But
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you know, father time waits for no man. And he's
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: had a couple of bad injuries as well in his career,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: and at the age of thirty four, like, he's not
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: moving the same way he was, and he's getting his
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: positioning wrong a little bit. And whereas he maybe had
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the speed to compensate for it a couple of years ago,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: he just doesn't have that anymore. It was a really
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: bad one for Liverpool this and I just thought if
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: they would have not conceded that last minute goal, if
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: they had gotten a draw, you could have said we're
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: undefeated in fourteen. But I mean, there are a lot
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: of drawers in there. There's some bad, there's some stinky
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I think about. They'd be like the crap Invincibles, basically,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: they would be they was. It doesn't doesn't lose, but
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: it doesn't win a lot either.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: You know, Sorry, Peter, but you did ask about slot,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: So I do. I do feel this this ownership group
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: will give him a longer lease than I think others
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: suspect they will, just because of how they they've operated
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: in the past with all their sports teams, but Shabby Alonso.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: If it wasn't for the fact that he was waiting
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: in the wings, just ready to quote slot in there,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: you know, then maybe it does happen earlier than I think.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: It's like in a television a long a television show
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: where there's like it will they won't they dynamic going
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: on sooner or later, it has to happen. I think
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the Chavy Alonzo will be the manager of Liverpool at
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: some point that that will happen. And it's and every
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: time he's unemployed and the current manager is not winning
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: every game, like this question is going to be asked,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and it's right. It is part of you that wonderment.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Did you just kind of kiss and get it out
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the way just so that time we don't need to
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: do five seasons of this.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: No, God, Lars, wash your mouth with soap, We are
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: not doing five seasons of this. Five more games, but
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: not five seasons.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, because I think the the thing a lot
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: of people will talk about in the aftermath is the
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: seven or eight minutes where Liverpool played a man down
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: after the first born mouth goal and Gomez went out
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: with an injury and it took Slot almost eight minutes
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: to replace him.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Well, but he was standing on the side ready to
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: come in. A lot of a lot of that time
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: was due to the fact that the referee did not
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: allow him to come on because there wasn't a stoppage
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: of play. Ah, So I don't think that was all
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: on Slot. Maybe took him a little bit longer, but
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: you know, an injury that happens that early, you don't
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: have players just ready to go either. You have to
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: kind of figure things out a little bit. And I
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: think a lot of that time that was spent with
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: him on the island was just because the referee didn't
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: have a stoppage of time to let him come.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: In, and they probably weren't at the idea of putting
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Enzo also center back. Yes right, oh wow, hey, Lars.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Bournemouth is an interesting story because I was really worried
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: about them. They had gone an extended amount of time
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: without winning any games. Then they sell off their best player.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: But now they've won two of their last three. Uh
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: and uh, Croopy Junior looks really good and there's some
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: there's some you know, maybe Bournemouth is gonna be okay.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: After all, I think they're gonna be okay in the
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: sense that I was never I was never worried about
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: this team getting relegated. But it is because again because
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: of the departures that you mentioned, this was probably always
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: going to be a transitional season for them. Like you
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: take a hit like that in the market, you have
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: to rejig your team that much, you're probably always going
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: to struggle to punch up. But there's way too much
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: quality for them to ever get relegated. The trouble is
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for them to convince the coach
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: to stay. And Doonirolia has done a great job. He's
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: definitely one of these upwardly mobile coaches that other big
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: clubs life. His contract expires at the end of the season,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: and it's just in the nature of being Bournemouth is
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: that you are gonna lose your best players and you're
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: always gonna have to try to recruit and rebuild and
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: it's just an ongo. That's just life at Bournemouth. And
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: if you're Roola and Richard, teams are looking at you,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: then it's gonna be hard for them to convince him.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Today Bournemouth in thirteenth on thirty points. With the win,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Liverpool stay and forth a mere point ahead of Manchester
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: United and two in front of Chelsea. So it's there's
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: a pretty good chance Liverpool after tomorrow, especially with Chelsea situation,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: may end up dropping out of the automatic Champions League
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: spots for next season.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: All right, Laras, it's your turn.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: And by the way, both of you guys can pick
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: on me and United in the next segment.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: We can because they haven't lost yet they're playing tomorrow. Peter,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: you're getting away with this, okay, Lars.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: This actually in the Liverpool result, as I mentioned, they
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: beat Marseille in the Champions League. And this is also
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: going to come into a conversation I want to have
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: when we talk about the Champions League a little in
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: a little bit. In a week where Tottenham beats Brush Dortman,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: they go on the road and they draw against Burnley
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: and it takes a very very late goal just to
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: rescue the point. I would what, I don't know just where?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: What is Tottenham at this point a very bad football team?
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I guess we could start there. No, I mean you might, hey,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: if you're a Tottenham fan, you might think this is
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: bad you're your fourteenth in the league. The XG is
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: pretty bad, like you keep not winning games. But good
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: news for you. According to Thomas Frank, they played quite
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: well today. Thomas Frank thought the performance was good. So
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the second half yeah, late, Yeah, I think he called
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: it average. I think he called it average the second half, yeah,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Thomas Frank. I feel like it's part of a managerial
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: cycle when things are not going well. Is when you
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: get to the point where the manager is talking about
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: the game. You just watch and you go, hang on,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: did we see the same game that that that feeld
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: that that happens occasionally. There was a lot of disgruntlement
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: from the away end at Tottenham, several chants that I
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: can't re quote on air, but people are unimpressed with
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Thomas Frank. It's fair to say they went they played
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: three center at backs. They went three at the back
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: or five at the back, depending on how you want
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: to see that against the worst team in the league statistically,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Burnley and come out of there with a two two draw.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Not good for Thomas Frank. And honestly, I kind of
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: feel like this is a waste of breath because I
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: think I think he's kind of I think this project
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: in inversi of Commas assumed. Anyway, I don't think there's
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: a way for Thomas Frank to rescue this. I have
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: a feeling the higher ups that Tottenham are looking at
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the fixture list ahead. They play Frankfurt in the Champions League,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: but after that, sorry to go. I know you're the
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: fixtures guy, Peter. I know you like to do this,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: but I don't drop your good. They're playing Manchester the City,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: then they're playing Manchester United, then they're playing Newcastle. Then
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: they've got the derby against Arsenal. They've got an awful
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: run of for a games there. So I wonder if
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: if they feel like Thomas Frank is maybe not our guy,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: maybe we want to change something. There's really not a
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: whole lot of a point to changing it now, because
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: whoever you put in charge temporarily is just going to
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: get that fixture on thrown at them. Might as well
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: give the Danish gym teacher a couple of more weeks
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: to dig his own.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Laws can be so cruel. I know, there's like, what
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: had they not had they not drawn though today, maybe
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: today would have been the day? Though right?
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe I mean it feels like such a hospital past
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: or whoever you put in charge temporarily, and we should
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: just be just to be clear, like, I think the
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: reason Thomas Frank is essentially doomed to Tottenham isn't even
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the results. I think it's because what he's trying to
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: do is not a good concept for this team. He's
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: he's they're not they're not even attempting to pass the
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: ball like it's long balls and set piece And this
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: is fine if you're the coach of Brentford, but you're
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: not the coach of Brentford anymore, all right.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: But if you fire him and you bring in somebody different,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: with the injury list and the missing players that Tottenham
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: has at this point, what really is somebody else going
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: to do differently with this squad and get a different
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: set of results. I mean he started Besuma and Connor
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Gallagher in the midfield today.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good. Connor Gallaghers is a good midfielder.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Well he just got there.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean what a different coach could be is
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: maybe tell them sometimes you should pass the ball to
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: someone wearing the same color shirt as you. I mean,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's the thing. That should occasionally take
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: place on a football match.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I love.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: It better, I mean so bad it is. You don't
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: always have to knock it long. You don't have to
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: always try to win a set piece. You know, sometimes
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: you should try to pass the ball. It's an exciting
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: new concept that should be explored by the way.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Uh let's see, do you realize that Spurs is first
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: in the Premier League league by goals scored by defenders
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: vand Ben and Romero being the two goal scorers for Spurs.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Today, so out of the two. Van Devenn feels kind
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: of random because he's scoring a lot of goals, but
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: they all like balls that dropped for him in the box.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Romero is very good in the attacking box as an
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: attacking weapon for a cent or a half. The way
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: he attacks crosses and set piece is the sort of
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: aggression that he has to get on the end of things.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I honestly think when I would, I'd be intrigued to see, Like,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, nothing else is working. I'm kind of interested
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: in trying Romero as a striker at some point because
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: he's such a monster in those sort of areas, Like
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: he is absolutely terrible to deal with when he gets
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: up into those areas. I'd like to see it.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: God, that would be uh, God, you try to defend
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Romero in the box as a striker. Goodness, that would
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: be brutal. Tottenham in fourteenth with the result, Burnley still
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: in nineteenth. By the way, Debrevka stole this game in
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: many ways from Spurs. He had at least three He
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: absolutely bonker saves in the course of the game. But
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Burnley now are winless in their last fourteen games, which
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: is the first time that has happened to Burnley since
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, nobody cares. Nope, nope, nobody cares.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: At the other games today City got a very dull
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: to nothing win over Wolves. Boy, this game was not
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: very good. Gayhee got his start for the first time.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: He looked very natural with City. Wolves are still in
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: very last place, fourteen points out of safety. And by
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the way, this game featured Aaron erling Holland and Phil
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Foden sitting on the bench the entire time.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: A good call. They won easy.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree. I was shocked that erling Holland
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: started against Bulleringimp this week in Norway in the Champions
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: League because I thought with Buderglimp in the Champions League
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and then Wolves at the weekend, it was a perfect
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: time to tell Erling Holland, you look you look tired.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Need a way you need to break. He doesn't like
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: being rested, he hates it. He wants to play football,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: but really the guy's been playing too much and he
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: needed to rest a little bit.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Today we'll talk a lot more about Manchester City and
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: the boat. A glimpt result here a little bit later
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: in the show. And to finish up today's results, Fulham
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: got a very sweet two to one win over Brighton.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: We played the goal to open at Harry Wilson has
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: scored again seven goals in thirteen and by the way,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: this means he now has eleven direct involvements in goals
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: seven goals for assists, which puts him behind Earling Holland
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: since November of this year in the Premier League. Pretty
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: good stuff from Harry Wilson, who, by the way, at
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the end of the season is out of contract.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Nice. No nobody cares about that either, No, I do care. Listen,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I love that this sort of mid career, like your players,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: who's player who's always been a little gifted but a
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: little flawed suddenly goes crazy like that's fun.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: We love a little gifted but a little flawed. Man. See,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: those are such cool descriptions such the word show.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: By the way, just question for both you guys. Brighton
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: has one win in their last ten. Is mister Herzeler
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: in trouble at Brighton?
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Gugie Howser MD. Yeah. I think I'm the only person
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: who calls him that. The absurdly young looking head coach
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: of Brighton. I think it's a little underwhelming, isn't it.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's not one of those you
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: don't No one is saying you need to sack him
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: right now, but I do think if the season ends
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: and Brighton is in twelfth, he's gonna have to really
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: bring something to the postseason conversation with the owner to
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: stay institue. That's gonna the PowerPoint has to be really
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: good in that meeting.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Andy prediction or feeling about that.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: I think he's fine for now, honestly, because they haven't
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: been playing that terribly.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Brighton in twelfth and Fulham have rocketed all the way
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: up to seventh place in the Premier League, and they
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: have Manchester night.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: It up next week.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, we will take a break here at this point.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll preview all of tomorrow's games,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: including the big one arsenal Manu. Next around the Kick
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Around with all the ridiculousness and controversy at the Afcon
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: final between Morocco and Senegal. The question came up, has
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: anything so weird happened during the World Cup? And so
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Andy will answer that question during World Cup nerd here
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: a little bit later on during the show, Welcome back
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: to the Kick Around. I'm Peter, Andy's at his house,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I'm at mine and all the way over there in
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Norway in his muckluck it is, hey Lars. Yeah, by
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the said, real quick question. So you know, very commonly
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Andy and I will giggle when somebody gets upset about
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: it being ninety degrees and talking about how hot it
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: is is twenty degrees fahrenheit slash minus six celsius cold
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: to a Norwegian.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: No, this is kind of normal for this time of
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: year in the East, for sure. I think. I think
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: you when you get down to like the teens, like
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: under fifteen fahrenheit, then you'd start thinking, oh this is
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: this is a bit much. But Yeah, any anything over that,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: it's fine and.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Do you have go ahead, Peter, I was gonna ask it,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: do you get sleet and freezing rain in Norway or
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: is it just snow?
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: That's the thing we don't really when it gets this cold,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: we don't typically Like you you in the break, you
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: were explaining to me this weather phenomena that you guys
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: are expecting, and that sounded weird to me. That's not
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: something we're familiar with. It's typically the reason. One of
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: the reasons we don't hate it when it's this cold
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: is that it's usually kind of clear, like tonight is Uh,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's twenty twenty fahrenheit. Yeah, but it's not.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: There's not windy, and it's a clear sky. It's actually
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: kind of nice outside.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The snow means that it's above freezing generally, so
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: that's why we get the sleet and freezing rain and which,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: by the way, is coming down hard here now.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Oh is it at my house? Yeah?
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you how it is over your
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: if you can if are you able to see outside?
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: We're from your studio.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Uh, it's coming down a little bit andy at it's
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: been nice knowing you guys, I hope as being our
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: final days here on Earth.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: The road they're definitely looking untravelable right now.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there are different kinds of cold. Writ Again, when
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I lived in Finland, we had like five fahrenheit. But
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: if it's dry and not window, yes, that that is
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: so much more comfortable than the sort of the sort
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: of forty forty fahrenheit and wind and rain that you
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: get in England all winter. Terrible hate that. I know.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget leaving my house and getting on a
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: flight in December when it was thirty degrees here in
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Dallas and it was miserable, And I got off at
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: the plane in Bozeman, Montana to go visit from friends
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: that lived there, and it was thirteen degrees and it
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: was nowhere near as uncomfortable, and was actually quite delightful
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: because it was just so much more dry and crisp.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: It was pretty great. Yeah, one hundred percent, Peter. So
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: even though I am by the sea, it was much
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: more of that kind of weathers. It was quite nice
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: for me. I hope you guys are okay in the storm.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna know.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't call it a storm. I would just call
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: it more inconvenient than anything.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it a storm.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Peter understand.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Hey, I wanted to ask you guys before we started
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: previewing the games tomorrow. One of the things that I
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: found interesting this week was it in the heels of
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: last week's Wolves Newcastle nil nil draw donuts, as I
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: like to call it, there seemed to be this weird
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: obsession in the media and in the fan base over
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: the number because that particular result meant that this season
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: in the Premier League there have already been more nil
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: nil or zero zero games than in the entirety of
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: the previous season or the season prior to that, and
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: there seems to be a big concern that when you
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: add that along with the fact that there now seems
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: to be a prevalent upset piece goals, that suddenly now
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: the Premier League has gotten boring. And I'm wondering, Andy,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: do you feel there is a case to be made
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: for that.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Well, the first of all, you know, I wonder if
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: it's just a one off, you know, small sample size,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: or it's just crazy pattern this year that really has
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: nothing to do with anything but the average number of
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: While the average number of goals is above average this
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: season in the Premier League. The number of goals score
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: from open play is down, and that goes to what
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: you said right, that more goals have been scored from
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: set pieces, So maybe there is something to that. And
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: I wonder our teams just playing more defensively are they
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: more pragmatic? Is that a result of teams can draw
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: and not fear for relegation thanks to Wolves and Burnley
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: being so bad? You know, I don't know.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I think, like you said, the goals are down. I
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: mean over the last three seasons now, like this season
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: we're averaging two point seven six goals per game less
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: season it was two point nine three. In the one
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: before it was actually three point two eight. So there's
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: been a steady decline over the last three seasons of goals.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: And there just seems to be more more teams that
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: are coached by dudes who don't want to take risks
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: and are there are a little bit And the thing
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: about all these set pieces is not like set piece
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: goals are not in themselves boring, but teams taking fifteen
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: to twenty seconds every time they have a set piece
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: is boring. And then the amount of time we've spent
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: just watching teams get ready to take a throw in.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Like that number has gone up by a lot. I
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: don't have it here right now, but that number has
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: increased sharply. Clock You know what, Yes, I think that's
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: something people are going to start to ask for because
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: we're spending too much time waiting for someone to like
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: dry the ball and take a long throw it. Like
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff is not fun. There is a
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: real sense that okay, in a competitive sense, this is
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: an interesting season. We have still just about a title race.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: We may have a relegation battle now after west Ham
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: one today that there is stuff to play for, but
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: there are fewer teams that I think are appointment viewing
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: just because of the way they play, and there is
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of times being sent It's being spent watching
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: dudes dry the balls. They can throw it really far,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: and that's not fun.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: So according to Lars, the Premier League is not only
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: more boring, there's too much ball drying taking place.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, having said that, I am grateful for
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: the fact that it's competitively interesting because you might remember, Peter,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: last year I completely checked out because it was just
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: do you remember this, This was the least interested I'd
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: ever been. It was the last spring because we knew
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: really early who was going to win the league, we
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: knew really early who was going down, and there just
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't a lot going on. So I just around about
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: late February March, I was just kind of mentally out
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: of there. That's not happening this year because that at
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: least we have a race and we have a number
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: of stuff that's going on. But I do think there
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: are more teams now based on how they're playing. When
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I look ahead, when I look at the docket for
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: the weekend, I feel like there are few games that
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I look at and go like, ooh, I want to
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: see that, because there's quite a few like quite either
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: dysfunctional or defensive teams in the league of the moment.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Or more parody. And I think that is one change
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: that we've seen over the last few years in the
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: in the in the league is teams like Southampton and
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: I host of teams, but even just Villa's rise. Those
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: are teams outside of the top six, the Big six
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: that have been doing well and they continue to do well,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: and it's just I think there's there's a legit fight
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: now for the top four spots, and I mean if
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: not for the league title, but for the four five
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: top spots. More teams are competing for those that we've
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: seen in a long long time, more in the last
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: two or three years.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we do have this. Lastly, it's still just six
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: points separating Bournemouth in thirteenth in Liverpool and fourth. It's crazy, right,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: that's a little nutty for Jeffer late January. I have
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: to say. That's six points between thirteenth and fourth. It's
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: kind of interesting competitively at least.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it will be getting it'll be even more interesting
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: after this weekend. Tomorrow there are four games. The big
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: one obviously is Arsenal hosting Manchester United, who I'm very
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: concerned about, guys, as the resident United fan, because after
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: beating City last week, with Michael Carrick and the new
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: vibe and all of that, there's way too much confidence
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: going into this game. There's too much confidence now, too
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: much confidence. Do you realize what were you gonna say, Andy.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: That I have to curve I said, Southampton men Sunderland.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Sorry, okay, I was gonna mention.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: So there's like everything on in in the numbers, in
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: the stats, are all indicating that Arsenal should win this
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: game with ease, the fact that they have the best
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: record at home, they're on a great streak United. By
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: the way, did you guys know this that United have
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: not won a league a Premier League game at the
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Emirates since twenty seventeen.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: The last time they wanted the Emirates in a league game,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Jesse Leinguard, some dude named Jesse len Guard scored twice.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Paul Pogba was playing for them.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Oh wow in that game.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: And I think I've added this up correctly. Since the
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: last time United have won a league game at the Emirates,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: United have had nine different managers. Wow wow, wow, because
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: that includes full time and intro.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I was gonna ask Lyn God and Pogba. That sounds like,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna all shad joint, But it wasn't.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: It was someone else in charge. I think it may
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: have been.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So, anybody got any thoughts about Arsenal's chances against
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: mighty Manchester United tomorrow?
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Are you for real? Just the way you ask it,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: you're like already pulling the Yeah. No, of course, of
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: course you like Arsenal at home against you?
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I'm I'm inclined to listen you're the
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: better Laars Yeah, I haven't. I'm staying clear of this
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: game from a betting perspective, but what I can say
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: is this, what United did really well against City is
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: something that we have seen them do well on occasion
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: during this troubled post Ferguson era, which is counter attack.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: There's something they've in this period when they've not been
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: very good. They've always had a couple of performances. You know,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: all of these guys like Maurinho, Amrimton, Haig, saw Sheriff
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Anale like they've all beaten both in Manchester City and Liverpool.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I believe like they have these games United where they
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: counter people. The thing about Arsenal is they're really good defensively.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: They they don't give away dumb chant like they're really
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: well organized, and it makes them sometimes a little less
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: fun to watch than you'd want the sot of champions,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: like the the the Will be Champions to be. They're
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: so solid, they're so organized, they don't take too many
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: and nonsensical risks. I do think they should be able
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: to nullify that counter attack. But we also saw with
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Arsenal is that they are sometimes a little conservative. You
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: remember the home game against Liverpool a couple of weeks ago,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: against the Liverpool that were missing important players, not in
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: great form. They walked away with the nil nil draw
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: and seemed kind of happy with that. So that conservative streak.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, it wouldn't shock me if United managed to
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: grind out a draw here.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: You know that Arsenal is farther from United, or United
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: is farther from Arsenal, that's a better way to say
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: it than they are from west Ham United, even though
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: they're in fifth, I mean, which is crazy. It just
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: but I think it's show.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: In terms of points.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I see, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, there's fifteen points between
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: those Greek yeah yeah.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: But the gold different. So I just think it's more
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: about Arsenal and fifty points than it is United in
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: fifth at thirty five. But it does mean that there
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: is parody because if United with thirty five is an fifth,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: it's just that jumbled mess.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Arsenal have conceded just fourteen goals in twenty two games
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: so far. Like, they are so good defensively and it's
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: not always a party to watch, but it's that solidity
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: which I think will carry them to the championship, and
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: it's that solidity that I think makes them a little
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: bit harder to catch on the counter, the way they
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: United managed to catch City last time out. Yeah.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Arsenal's goal differential at home is plus twenty one. Yeah,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: pretty crazy, all right tomorrow the other games, an interesting
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: one is Aston Villa and Newcastle. Newcastle and ninth Aston
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Villa and third is the x G Monster catching up
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: to Aston Villa.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Lars Yeah, I think it might be happening. Just one
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: win in the last four in the league for Villa now,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: and crucially Bubaker Kamara is injured and I think that
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: their their midfield anchor. Kamara is I would argue their
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: most important player, maybe after maybe Rogers the way he's
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: the hot streak has been on with his shooting, but
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Kamara is so good in that holding midfield role. He
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: is now injured for a prolonged period of time. Villa
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: have been running hot all season in terms of converting
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: an unusually high number of chances. I have a feeling
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: this is when it starts to turn. Especially they're going
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: away to Newcastle, who we know are a very very
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: strong home team, so I listen, it's a dangerous thing
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: to start, but Newcastle have lost only one game at
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: home since September. Like, they are very very strong up
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: in the Northeast and it just seems like things are
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: just about to turn for a Villa right now.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: And then the other two games Brentford is hosting Forrest
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: and Palace Man, this is the weirdest time to be
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: a Palace fan, guys, between all of the success they
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: have achieved for the first time in club history over
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: the course of the last year and how bad it
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: has turned in the last two weeks.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: They host Chelsea in.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: A London derby tomorrow at eight am, so or with
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: his chance for him to continue his win ways with
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: his new team, and he's weird. There's just something really
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: weird Lar's about that guy being the manager of Chelsea.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: It just does it. It feels very unstable to me.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: It's that big LinkedIn energy that he has, you know.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure everyone will have everyone will have
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: seen his line so far. I mean he said something
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: about how the word manage it's actually like it's man
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: and age. So what you're doing is your aging men,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: which is the most sort of sick that no you
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: know what it's not unfair because he did. He is
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: an adult and he said that out loud in front
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: of a camera, and that means we get to pick
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: on him from.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Lars does not forgive. But Lars, after you were on
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: the show, I think it was last week you mentioned
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: this about him. I did some research. I went in
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: and looked at past interviews and he's a very quirky
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: and interesting individual for sure.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: But he is I want to like him because I
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: think he is a he's a thinking man. He's the
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: guy who's got some stuff going on upstairs, more so
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: than a lot of people in the But that's the thing,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: and also is he the right character to be the
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: coach of Chelsea. This is the house that Jat built.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: This is the home of drug buy and Joese, Mourinho
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: and all these kind of people. That's the culture of
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: that club. This sort of young, thoughtful guy. I'm not.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting cultural thing and I think that maybe
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: this is an obvious point to make, but I think
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: he needs to win a lot of games really quickly
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: to get people onside, because I think a lot of
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: people in the fan base and the sort of sphare
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: around Chelsea are in Handley A little bit skeptical of that, dude.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: That game is at eight o'clock. By the way, the
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Arsenal Manchester United games the ten thirty game tomorrow morning.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Everton and Leeds face off on Monday at two pm
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: to finish out the week in the Premier League. All right,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: there you go, let's take another break. When we come back,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: we'll get into this past week and the upcoming week.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: In the final week of the group stage of the
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Champions League. Laws will tell us all about out that
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Bodo glimpt win over City next here on the kick Around,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: before the end of the show. During the dribble, we
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: will answer the question I get pretty much three or
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: four times a week. Is the World Cup actually going
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: to happen? We'll do that before the end of the show.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Here on the kick around, Welcome back on Peter Andy's here.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: We're all in our own places, including the good Lars
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Silverston in his igloo in Norway.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Laura, yes, straight in the I would love any
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: have you sona an iglo? Have you been in Have
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: you been in an iglu? Lars, No, it's not yet. Yeah,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: I have been in an igloo, but really it's not
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: something that we make just for the fun of it.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, this was definitely like it was a school
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: trip type of thing. I shouldn't make fun of Norway
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: or post. You know, you know what we don't what
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: you know, we don't have in this hemisphere. Penguins just
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: gonna leave that there.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: That's from where I'm from. I love that Penguins covered Lars.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Lars, Oh, Penguins, Lars with the shot.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I dig it very good, Lars.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I won't make fun.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Or poke a Norway because it's a big week for
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: your motherland. As Boto Glimped got one over the giants
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: in city in a kind of dramatic fashion, real dominating result.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Why don't you tell everybody about the Boto and the Glimpt.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now the context for this, Let's start with money, Like,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good place to start. Let's start
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: with payroll. I mean Manchester City's salary a budget. Their
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: payroll is about somewhere in the region of five hundred
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars a year. Their Champions League opponents
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Bulderglimp their annual payroll is about twenty five million. So
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: this is the financial discrepancy at work here. This is
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: twenty five million versus five hundred and fifty. That's some
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: real moneyball stuff. Wow, So them coming to town is
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I love this about the Champions League. You can talk
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: about how you hear people say we might as well
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: have a European Sea Super League because it's the same
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: sort of eight twelve teams in the final rounds every
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: year anyway. But I think the fact that national champions
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: from smaller league have a genuine chance at qualifying, even
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: if they don't most of the time, and that they
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: do have a genuine chance of being matched up against
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: these giants, I think that is worthwhile. I think it's
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: important and I think it matters, and I think Bordaglimps
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: are a great example of that. Bullaglimp do not have
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: some local billionaire funding them, or a team from a
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: town and has about fifty thousand inhabitants. It's in the
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: far North, it's inside the Arctic Circle and about sort
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: of eight ten years ago they were in the second
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: tier in Norway. They weren't even in the top division.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: They were almost bankrupt. This is the team that's made
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: it to the top in their country through having good
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: footballing ideas, through recruitment through good coaching, and that have
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: made it into Europe where they've beaten Roma, they've beaten Porto,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: they've taken some good scalps, but now beating Manches the city.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: It's absolutely incredible. It's either the best or the second
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: biggest result for a Norwegian club team ever. I mean
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: the Wolsenbug beat Milan away from home to qualify from
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: the group stage back in ninety six. I mean that's
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: also up there, but certainly one of the greatest results
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: in Norwegian club football ever. And the financial discrepancies are unbelievable,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: but I think it just kind of shows if you
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: support a team from a smaller country, it shows you
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: that it is still possible in European football to have
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: these moments.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: It is an amazing story. It's the northernmost team to
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: ever compete in the Champions League, right Lars, I believe.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: And just the fact, like when they say it's inside
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: the Arctic circle, Peter, it's inside the Arctic circle. It's
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: like crazy, We're gonna go play a road game inside
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: the Arctic circle.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wild, but so far north that in the
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: winter the sun doesn't come up like the summer the
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: sun doesn't go down. It's quite a running and and
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: it's interesting to me that even now they they've had
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: some European adventures, they've started making some money. By Norwegian context,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: the team are still usually mostly they haven't bought any
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: big names in a Norwegian context. I mean they what
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: they've spent some of the money on is bringing some
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: guys back because they've had some players who have been
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: successful with Buda, who have gone abroad and have not
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: enjoyed their time as much abroad, and brought them back
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: to to the north of Norway. Ginst Petal who scored
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: that beautiful goal where he skipped past Rodriy and put
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: her in the top corner. He's he's been to Milan,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: he's played for Frankfurt, but in the end he didn't
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: quite like it abroad, so he's gone back north. And
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: this is yeah, so it's it's it's a team of
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: it's not quite like an expendable sort of rag tag
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: bunch of guys, but it's a team completely without superstars,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: which is all about the collective, all about the group.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: And they're quite sort of in the did they do
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: stuff like meditate. There's a lot of meditation going on.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: They have a they have a they have a retired
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: fighter pilot doing mentality coaching sessions with them SaaS, Oh,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that they have. Yeah, they have a fighter
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: pilot who actually saw active duty over Libya. Uh not
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: that not that long ago doing mental coaching for them.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: So yeah, embracing various types and it's really giving them results.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: The cherry on the cake was that they just didn't
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: beat any big team from Europe. They beat City in Holland.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: I think that's the crazy thing, right, is that's Holland's
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: homecoming aside from national team games he plays there, but
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: club homecoming and they get that big win.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: And what they said, what the coach said after the game, Okay,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: he didn't say that they were comfortable, because that wouldn't
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: be entirely true, but he was said that City were
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: not that physical. And that's an interesting thing because they
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: lost to Tottenham in the Europa League last season. Tottenham
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: obviously not as good a team as manches a City,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: you would say, but what they really struggled with in
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: the double head against Tottenham was the physicality. All the
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: sort of six foot plus guys who would just bash you,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: just go straight at you and fight. Yeah, and that
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: was and that was a real shock to them last year,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: and in fact, they changed the way they trained to
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: emphasize the physical stuff more because they realized, Okay, to
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: do well in Europe, we're gonna have to be a
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: little stronger when they come up against City City. We're
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: trying to do the City thing of passing them to bits.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: And they were like, now we can deal with this.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: And if City had been putting crosses into the Giant
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Hall and into the box all day, that would have
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: been much harder, but City decided not to do that.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Just to put it.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Into perspective, their salary wage bill is essentially only like
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: a million or two dollars more than the top level
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: MLS team for twenty twenty six in LAFC, Just to
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: kind of put that into perspective, all right, Lars. In
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: the Champions League, we were approaching the final week of
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: the group stage, and with all the conversation we've had
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: already today about how the Premier League is kind of
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: in a weird state in terms of lack of goals
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: and nil nil draws and Liverpool losing today and Tottenham
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: struggling to get a draw after having good weeks in
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: the Champions League. Here we sit with all five Premier
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: League teams in the top eight of the Champions League.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Obviously Arsenal is the only team that is automatically going
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: to qualify for the knockout stage. But you could end up,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: you know, with a good result for City, you could
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: end up with all six with City falling into automatic
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: into the in the knockout rounds. And I'm not sure
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: what that means in the scheme of things in terms
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: of the powerhouse nature of the Premier League versus the
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: rest of Europe.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: I think it means again, without being a boar hair,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: I think it means the English clubs have the most money,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: with a couple of exceptions. I mean to get away
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: from that, but that.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Hasn't proven to be the differentiator in a while. Like
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: you know, it's not like the English teams have dominated
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: the Champions League of.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: LA No where they they have to some extent. But
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: I want to tie this too so that the annual
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: football finance analysis from Deloitte came out recently. We showed
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: that in terms of revenue, of the top ten clubs
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: in the world in terms of annual revenue. All of
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: the so called top six in England are there. Six
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: of the ten are English clubs. It's Real Madrid, Barcelona
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Buying and PSG, and then that's Liverpool City, Arsenal United,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Tottenham and Chelsea the wealthiest clubs around. And you don't
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: have to look too far down the list to bump
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: in Teston, Villa, Newcastle, West Ham and so and so on.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of money in England and money doesn't
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: always equal success, but it sure helps.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: The money has been there for a bit now in
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: the Premier League over the other leagues. But I think
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: a more recent development, and maybe we're seeing the fruits
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: of this now with this recent table, is that the
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: coaching is also now all headed to the Premier League.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: Money went first, the players went first. Certainly good coaches
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: were there, but I think we've seen an influx of
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: good coaches, good managers go to the Premier League, more
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: so in the last couple of years than we have before.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, with the results of that, do you have
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: an opinion why they were Well, I mean, I think
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: I do think it's a result of the There's two
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: things at play here. I agree the money is becoming
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: the bigger and bigger differentiator. But what I think is
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: when we talk about the kind of the boring results
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: of this year in the Premier League, is something that
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: you mentioned Andy, that we really didn't get into, which
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: is parody, which is I think is something that's going
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: to become more and more common in the Premier League
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: because of the fact that even the twentieth place club
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: has got so much money to spend that when you
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: put these clubs in these European competitions with all the money,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: the depth and their rosters, I think that's really starting
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: to show itself in the continental tournament versus just the
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: domestic league. And what it's going to mean is that
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: the domestic league of the Premier League legue is going
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: to become more competitive from top to bottom than I
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: think it has been historically for those of us that
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: have been watching it for many, many years.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: So money at the end of the day.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, uh So, we go into the final week of
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: the Premier excuse me, the Champions League and with the
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: fixtures and everything, anything in particular or any particular game
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: that you're most looking forward to this coming week, Bulla da.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Going away, They're going away to atlas Ca Madrid. I
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: would like for them to to win and get something.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, not Poly are playing Chelsea, not ply are
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: not guaranteed to go through. They're they're they're they're kind
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: of fighting for their right to continue being in this tournament.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: They're one of the probably the biggest team that's at
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: risk of going out or are in real big trouble,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: notly the reigning Italian champions. So them them going to Chelsea,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I think is an interesting game to look out for.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Uh, Tottenham has uh frankurt unrig Frankfurt.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Arsenal is playing which Carabine the Horsemen?
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're from.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Right, so they've got That's a whole political thing there
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: that we don't have to get time to get into.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: But you can look up the the Carabac team if
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: you want, on your own time, you should.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Liverpool is playing Carabi.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: You said no, Arsenal is playing Karat alma Sorry, thank you?
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Where are they from?
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Al Maati that's even further away, but at least they
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: don't have to go there. Al Mahti is very far away.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Carabac is also quite far away.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Are they both Azerbaijani clubs?
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: And I I Almati is in Kazakhstan, which is okay.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: So I'd say a bak Whu is about a five
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: and a half hour flight, probably going on six depending
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: on how it works out. Al Mahti is even further.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: These are these are long travels for European teams. European
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: teams are not used to having the travel distances that
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: you guys have in domestic US. They freak out a
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: little when they have to fly the equivalent of across
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: the continents.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: And we'll finish it up with kind of the most
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: interesting of the game's interesting games involving a Premier League team.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: It's Newcastle and PSG because Newcastle is in seventh, PSG
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: is in six. But they're also in a situation where
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: if one of those two teams to lose, there's a
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: pretty good chance that somebody else below them will win
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: and knock them out of the automatic uh you know,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: automatic spots into the knockout stage and they'd have to
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: go to that goofy playoff coming up, So keep an
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: eye on that particular thing. Those games take place this week. Luras,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: We're going to say something now, just.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: You say goofy playoff I think of it more as
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: like not not that some of them have to play
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: the goofy playoff, but the best teams get to skip it.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: It's like you get to skip around. This is how
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: I look at it. The flight London Talamati is eight hours,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: that is fairness, That is a.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah for a midweek that is a trek.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: So but they are at home, so it's it's irrelevant.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: I do like the fact that we have these these outposts.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: I think that again is real enrichment to this European tournament.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: That we have, that we have a club from Kazakhstan,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: that we have a club from Zaraba, John, that we
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: have a club from the Arctic Circle. That's tremendous.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that I like this format for that
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: very reason.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask Andy where your Swiss model
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: meter was sitting at the end of the group stage,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: because I've heard a lot of dissension about it this week,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: and like people are thinking some of the games have
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: been really boring.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: I just I like the opportunity that the smaller nations,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: smaller clubs get to compete against the big boys more
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: than just you know, one or twice. Like the fact
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: that they're just in the table is great because they
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: wouldn't always make even the group stage in the past.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: But that they get to play several games like this,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: I think it's cool you get and you get matches
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: like the city match in Norway where you get a
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: surprise every once in a while, and I think that's
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: great for the sport.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I mean I have enjoyed the football. I
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: have no felt it boring. I don't. I feel like
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: almost every match day there is at least one or
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: two games that's like interesting. The weakness of the new
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: system is that it doesn't feel like there's any genuine
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: peril for the big teams. You never really worry that
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: any of the big teams are going to get knocked
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: out if they have one bad result or two bad results.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: But it is in terms of giving us fun games
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: of soccer. I do feel like the format is delivering.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Holy cow, we are running late. As I look at
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: the clock. My bad. No, no, it's not your fault, Lars,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: it is my fault.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: I am I am EF and.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: This goat, So all right here we go, Lars. Thank
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: you so much for your time today and your insight
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: and your expertise. We love you and we're so excited
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: to have you here this summer for the World.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: Cup anytime, guys, so looking forward to coming to Dallas
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: doing the show. Seeing all you is going to be
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: so much fun, good stuff. Andy.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: When we come back, let's do Andy's favorite new segment,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: World Cup Nerd. Next on The Kick Around, will Andy
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: and I die MLS cupless chat. GPT has answered that
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: question and I'll explain that yeah before the end of
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Kick Around.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Thanks again to Lars for checking in and for the
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: last several segments.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of fun.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: But that music tells us it's time for our favorite
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: new weekly segment, World Cup Nerd, And I'm going to
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: tie in last week's story that happened in the Afcon
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: final between Senegal and Morocco. Obviously, the final was played
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: in Morocco. There was lots and lots of controversy if
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: if you've been living.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Under a rock.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Basically, Morocco lost the game at home to Senegal, who
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: scored a winner in added time, but not before all
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: kinds of ridiculousness took place in terms of Moroccan ball
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: boys trying to steal the Senegalese goalkeeper's towel because it
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: was wet and rainy, and so there was a backup
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: keeper trying to keep them from that, and there was
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: like some job that was just weird stuff going on
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: the sideline that, unto itself, was inexcusable. But then Senegal
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: had not one, but two var decisions not go their way,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: so the Senegalese fans started to riot and come out
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: of the stands, which led to the Senegalese manager pulling
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: his team from the field. There ended up being like
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: a twenty minute delay before Saudio Mane talked his team
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: to come back on the field and then the most
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: ridiculously poorly taken penalty kick for Morocco took place that
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: was easily saved.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Was that don on purpose or not? I don't know.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Ultimately Senegal hit that goal in the deep added time
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: of like the twenty second minute. I've had a time
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: and they are the African champions. And while that was
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: all going on, I thought to ask myself this question,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: has anything, anything ever even close to this level of
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: controversy ever taken place during a World Cup?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Andy?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Has it?
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: And the answer is yes, We've gotten something pretty close
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: to that. Nineteen eighty two in Spain, the World Cup
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: in Spain, France and Peah. Yeah, France and Kuwait are
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: playing a group stage match and France is leading three
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: to one round the seventy fifth minute, and then Kuwait, though,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: is pushing for a second goal. We should note that
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: Kuwait drew with the checks in the first match, so
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: it's a tight group. England was part of that group
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: as well. And this is the Saint France team that
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: had Platini as captain that lost to Germany and PK's
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: in the semi so along with Brazil, they're probably considered
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: the best team of that World Cup. They just didn't
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: happen to win it. Italy won that World Cup. So
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: Kuwait is pushing for a second goal and France goes
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: on a counter and scores, and it looked like some
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: of the Kuwait defenders hesitated at one point and kind
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: of stop for a split second because they might have
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: heard something. France goes on, they don't stop. The French
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: players go on, keep the ball and go on and score,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: and the referee allows the goal. Some of the Kuwait
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: players start arguing that they heard a whistle, but the
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: referee hadn't blown a whistle and they probably came from
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: the stands. So at that point, the Kuwait players start
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: walking off the field because the brother of the Emir
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: of Kuwait, he was attending the game. The brother was
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: he ordered the players off the field, and you see,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: like if you watch video, you can see video of
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: him standing up in his seat and gesturing for the
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: team to come off the field. So the brother of
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: the emir of their country is telling them to walk
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: off the field. They all walk off the field. Then
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: you see their coach gesturing to the amir's brother. His name.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: You want me to tell you his name? His name
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: in case you're wondering. Yes, it's Sheikh Fahad al Lahmed
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: al Jabert al Sabah.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, well that sounds burdensome.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: But yeah, we'll just call him vy Amir's brother. Uh So,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: So the coach points to him and says, hey, can
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: you come down here and just kind of sort things
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: out for us, Sylvie amir decides to go downfield level.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: Now he doesn't have a credential. He just gets up
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: from via his VIP tribune seat, walks down on the field.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: Security police, they all just open, open up, no resistance,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: because this is like an amir walking on the field.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: And he went up to the referee, who was Soviet
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: by the way, just to add to the uh, the
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: mystery here, he whispered in his ear and then he
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: just walked off and just like that, what the referee do?
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: He called for a drop ball?
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: No goal?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: Whoa So after he awarded the goal, Oh no yes,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: So then the French coach, the famous Michelle ldalgo he
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: just goes nuts and of course he gets a red card.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: So now the French are all up in arms. Finally
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: played like players, restored kickball. France goes on and they
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: score another goal. They eventually went four to one, but
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: FIFA did give the referee a lifetime suspension after that.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: Really yeah, Soviet referee.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: It's interesting.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fantastic story. And I didn't realize that
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: it happened in the World Cup before, but am watching
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: this happen this last week with Senegal because I was
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: frustrated that Senegal. I felt like they got away with
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: something by leaving the field and going to the locker room.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: They went to the locker room. I mean, that's nuts.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: They went all the way to the locker room.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the referee has the right to abandon
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: a game, but it also depends on the tournament I assume, Andy,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: and the role that you play for CONKA CAF as
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: a match official, I guess you come into play at
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: that point.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and for a final, you will have the African
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: African continent that their confederation officials they're making calls as well.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: There they can override the referee in a final in
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: an official competition like this. But but I think FIFA
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: is now looking and I don't know if they're working
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: with the African Confederation, they are looking at this because
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: there is a provision that says that if what you
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: do from that perspective, if you walk off the field
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: and delay the game by a certain amount of time,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: it can cause the opposing team harm, a sporting harm
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: And and so what's what Morocco is arguing and I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: think they're they're wanting this match overturn and the result overturn.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: They're arguing that the effects of that delay, which was extensive,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: as you mentioned, caused them to not play well. Following
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: the delay, they missed the pik and then gave up
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: the winning goal. And their argument as it was all
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: caused by the delay.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I would say that that was exacerbated by
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: the fact that the delay preceded a fact there was.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Going to be a penalty kick.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: And before we go, my question to you is, did
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: he miss it on purpose or was the delay the
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: thing that caused him to miss it so bad? Right?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: Did they feel like? Did the Moroccan players feel like?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: Because we have to say what happened on the field.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: Senegal had scored a goal, the game winning goal, minutes
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: prior and that goal was called back because of a foul.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: It was a vowel, very soft vowl. Referee blew the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: whistle before the play was even over. They didn't allow
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: the play to proceed and then let Var decide. So
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: that was bad. And then a few minutes later he
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: calls his PK and favorite Moroccos. So there are some
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: that feel, well, Morocco knew that this was all a
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: joke and the fix was.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: In or whatever. I don't know.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: I don't think he missed on purpose. You saw him
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: cry after the game. I think he had real emotion,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't think so.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: I saw some cases being made that could sell me
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: on the idea that there had been some sort of
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: agreement to miss the PK. But I also feel like
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: that would be man. I don't know how you would
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: answer to the rest of your teammates if that was
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: the case, unless you were told to miss it or
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: something like that. None of that makes a lot of sense. Well,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: it was high fine drama. I hope we don't Well
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: I don't think.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: I hope we have.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: I think I hope we don't have something like that
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: happened in the World Cup coming up this summer.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: No, it's rare. It's rare.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, Well, you know when you get so angry that
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: you just huff and puff off the field, that's a
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: bad sign.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. There was one two in England in nineteen sixty
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: six that worke up in England when Argentina threatened to
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: walk off because they got red card and they felt
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: that is home cooking because the tournament in England they
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: were playing in England. Yeah, and their tournament officials, FIFA
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: officials convinced them. They went downfield level and convinced them
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: not to walk off and stay stand in the game
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: and play resumed.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: So that was then almost.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: One hotheads for sure, all right, there you go. World
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Cup NERD will take our break and when we come back,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: we'll do America's favorite segment, to dribble and answer the
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: question is the World Cup actually gonna happen?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Next to on the Kick Around? So we opened the show.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: Asking the question what was the difference between freezing rain
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: and sleet? And the good Mary on the Twitter sent
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Michael Dixon and I a graphic that explains it in
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: donuts Andy, freezing rain is like a glazed donut, it claims,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: liquid rain freezes on contact, and sleet is like wrinkles.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: Frozen rain drops. They bounce on impact. So that is
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: the difference between phrase freezing rain and sleet. So thanks
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: to Mary for edumacating us.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: And which one hurts more on the face the I
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: think sleet then, right, because it's already frozen.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, probably so Yeah, when.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: I was finishing the walk with our doggie, it was
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: what was hitting my face was then sleet?
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Sleet?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, sleep it's stung. It's stung as it hit my face.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: Anytime you can educate somebody about anything science or factoid
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: about your nut donuts, I.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: Think you've probably.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, you've you've won the world. Right there?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: All right, before we go, a couple of things that
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: I want to get out of the way. Uh. First off,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: a little bit tied to the World Cup.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: Infantino had some comments this week about the prices of
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: World Cup tickets and seem.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: To want to put a lot of the blame on.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: The fact that people are buying tickets at face value,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: and because in here in the United States and Canada
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: there are laws that allow you to resell them on
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: third party platforms or resale platforms. Well that there is
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: where the real price increases are coming from, not from
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: the fact that they're already expensive to begin with. It's funny,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: mister Infantino. By the way, do you know that on
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: the FIFA resale website, which, by the way, they did
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: put up the most expensive ticket on the FIFA marketplace
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: right now? Do you know the answer to this question?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: Andy?
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: Would you like to take a guess with the most
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: expensive ticket prices currently on the FIFA resale market website.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: Well, it depends, it's not. These are not hospitalities tickets, No,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: these are individuals.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: This is for one individual seat and I don't know,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: but I assume it's for the final.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, front center at the final twelve five hundred eighteen
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: two hundred. No, am I wrong?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: You know what, Peyton is very close two hundred and
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: Ah, that's got to be hospitality. It's got to be
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: like cut club seat with you.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: Think okay, yeah, I would think so. Yeah.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: That's also the platform in which FIFA is taking thirty
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: percent fifteen percent from both the seller and the buyer.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: So a week after I was quoted in the paper
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: saying proceed buying tickets from third party vendors with extreme
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: caution or something like that, Right, I think is what
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: I said, Infantino comes out and says, yeah, you can
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: go ahead and buy from third party vendors.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: Well, he didn't say that.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: I think he was just saying that that's what's driving
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: all the prices at now.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: The other thing that he said he was convinced.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: He said that all one hundred and four matches of
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: this World Cup will without question be sold out, and
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: he used this stat which kind of blew me away.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: He says, quote, in almost one hundred years of the
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: World Cup in its history, FIFA has sold about fifty
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: million tickets in total for all of the World Cups
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: combined now for this World Cup in just four weeks
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: while they're on sale, we have already had request enough
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: for one thousand years of World Cups at once.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: Wow. That's amazing. Big stadium, lots of game, more games,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: big stadiums. And I do think there's a chance all
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: games sell out because of dynamic pricing, because those games
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: that are considered duds that aren't going to be as popular.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: We don't have any here in North Texas, but there
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: are some around other venues. Those those tickets will drop
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: in price, yeah, because that's how dynamic pricing works. And
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: you know, if you have a chance to go to
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: a World Cup game for twenty five bucks, you probably
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: pounce on it. So I think eventually all games will
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: sell out.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: We keep talking about that. I am curious at whatever
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: game somebody would consider to be a dud, what the
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: tickets end up going for that are reasonable, that aren't
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: the ones that are in the seats that you just
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: don't want to sit in. Nobody wants to sit in
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: the uppermost corner at the death star, even for a
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: World Cup game, unless I mean, I guess you would.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: Well, if I'm asking you then if the US is
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: playing there July third, and you have a chance to
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: buy or be in the building for that game World
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: Cup game your country July third, knockout round game, and
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: but but you have to sit in one of those seats.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: You turn that down.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Boy, that is a sophie's choice. I probably do, Andy.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: I think I'd rather sit in a television and be
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: able to watch the game.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: I just think being in the building of a World
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: Cup game with your national team with the advancement on
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: the line. Yeah, you know you can watch games in
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: front of your TV anytime you want.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: I guess you could VR it and go back and
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: watch it again after the fact and.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: Say that you're actually in the game manager at movie
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: theaters when the sounds not normally. Yes, you can do that,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: but sometimes you just have to experience things in a
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: different way.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Peter, thank you.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: You're right, mister, send the stake back. That's slightly overcooked, tche.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: The other thing is I get this question asked to me.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: I assume you get it asked to you all the time, too, Andy,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: which is is this World Cup going to happen? And
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: this comes on the heels of the Vice President of
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: the German Federation bringing up the concept that the other
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: countries should at least have a discussion about boycotting the
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: World Cup with all of the stuff going on between
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: Trump and domestic issues and the international issues. You and
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: I are very confident that this World Cup is going
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: to happen and all of the countries that are already
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: in the tournament and will be in the tournament will participate.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I think the likelihood of a boycott is
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: extremely low. We've heard this before. They talked about boycotting,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: boycotting the Qatar Cutter.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: Cutter, it's one of the two.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: Cutter, that's it. It's Cutter. I've been listening often to
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: get it right. But you know, they they there was
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: talk of boycotting, boycotting that that competition and it didn't happen.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: There was talk about South Africa and the fear of
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: security issues and how Russia fans fans weren't going to go,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: and then Russia. It just seems, you know, every World
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: Cup these days, we just get these narratives and you know, there, look,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: there are issues, and I understand why, uh, you know,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: the conversation is taking place, but no, the World Cup
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: is going to take place, and it's gonna it's gonna
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: be a it's going to be a huge event. It's
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: gonna this World Cup is you know, I I don't
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: want to speak ahead of things, but it it is
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: going to be a massive, massive event. And they're saying
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: the biggest sporting event in history.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I mean, obviously, as wacky as our
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: culture and world has been in the last recent past,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: anything is possible, I assume. But I always feel like
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: every World Cup in the last couple of decades has
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: always arrived with a lot of questions in controversy and
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: people wondering if it's going to happen or go off well,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: and it always ends up being a big deal. And
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: I assume this will be no different.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: And ultimately, if any if any federation, any country's federation
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: boycotts and doesn't send their national team, they're ultimately answering
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: to FIFA, and so that that is an issue for
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: that federation because then FIFA will you know, FIFA will
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: threaten sanctions against that. So you know, the German national
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: team probably doesn't want to be suspended for the next
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: two World Cups that kind of thing. And I assume
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: that if anybody threatens with a real I mean, if
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: the threat becomes real like that, FIFA then steps up
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: and says, well if you do, which is by the way,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: they had to kind of throw some language out about
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: that in the last the last cycle, the last World Cup,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: when some countries we're threatening that.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: All right, so thank you for answering that the World
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: Cup shall happen. According to Andy Swift, I appreciate it great,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: real quick, before we get it on me.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, put it on you before we go.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: I noticed this because one of the two guys that
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: owns Atletico Dallas retweeted this and I'll get to his
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: part in a second. But in this tweet, somebody put
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: into chat GTP, who's going to win the next fifty
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: MLS Cups?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: Oh my.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: Fifty fifty so through the year twenty seventy something, I
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: think is what it was.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: Somebody did that for baseball. I remember, I remember seeing that. Okay,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: so then, what what does chat GPT know about MLS?
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: Tell us you and I are going to die MLS cupless?
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: Oh man.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: FC Dallas is not listed as a predicted winner of
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: MLS Cup in the next fifty years.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: Ever, Yeah, now it's taking past history as.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: Here's the caveat of the value of this. They also
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: did it for USL Championship and in the year twenty
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: thirty five, a team that has not signed a player,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: doesn't have a coach, hasn't played a game and won't
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: for eighteen months. Atletico Dallas was predicted of winning the
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: USL Top Division in the year twenty thirty five. So
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: take that for what it may mean to you.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: Let me read you what GPT predicted for the EPL
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: table this year. Okay, had Liverpool winning it again, Chelsea
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: down third, Newcastle in six, Brighton was going to be eighth,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: Crystal Palace seventh. How'd those predictions turn out?
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: Hey, who said, don't assume the computer knows what it's
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: talking about when it comes to football.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: Right, suck? Listen to us. Wait, no, don't do that either,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: looking at our predictions. Yeah, don't do that either.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: Listen to Lars usually pretty yeah, you should absolutely listen
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: to Wise. Yes.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: Thank you to Lars for checking in and helping out
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: today on the show. Thank you to Dixon for doing tickers,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: and thank you to Jay King for producing, and thank
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: you to dear sweet Connor who is Poland.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: Yeoman's work has been here all day while everybody else
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: gets to.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: Do the show from home in their pajamas, So thank
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: you Connor for doing that. I do believe we'll be
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: back again next week, so p Ones join us then
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: and have a fantastic and safe week out there in
• 1:23:37
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• 1:23:40
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