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#0110_ STORY INSPIRE: The Palantir Manifesto — Technology, Power & The Future of Society · INSPIRE STORY

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show. Joe
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  Speaker 1: Rogan was in the White House recently announcing the FDA
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  Speaker 1: approval of Ibogaine. It is a new drug used to
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  Speaker 1: cure opioid addiction and post-traumatic stress disorder. And a lot
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  Speaker 1: of ex-military are using this. A lot of veterans are
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  Speaker 1: talking about the tremendous benefits in their life that they
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  Speaker 1: are seeing from using this. And not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people know about the drug. I had no idea what
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  Speaker 1: it was. So joining me today is a veteran that
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  Speaker 1: is taking Ibogaine. Mike, thank you for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, Tim.
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  Speaker 1: Of course. Mike, tell me, what is Ibogaine?
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not going to. claim to understand it fully,
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  Speaker 2: but Ibogaine, it's an African root. They powder it, and
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  Speaker 2: you take a drink of it, and in 72 hours,
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  Speaker 2: you experience a total psychological dissolution, followed by a sort
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  Speaker 2: of repair process that has left me personally in an
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  Speaker 2: entirely changed and different state of mind.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that sounds amazing. Tell me about some of the
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  Speaker 1: things you were going through before getting on Ibogaine.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, sure. So I served two tours in Iraq.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for your service.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I spent my high school graduation in boot camp.
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  Speaker 2: I started right away. And I experienced combat. I experienced murder.
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  Speaker 2: I experienced killing. And all these things used to haunt me.
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  Speaker 2: When I got back, I couldn't eat. I couldn't sleep.
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  Speaker 2: I could drink. And I started to do oxycodone just
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  Speaker 2: to manage the pain and the stress.
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  Speaker 1: How was Ibogaine different? helped with that, because what you
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  Speaker 1: just described is what I hear from a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: It is very hard when you return from war. How
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  Speaker 1: has Ibogaine helped you with all of the things that
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  Speaker 1: you went through?
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  Speaker 2: Well, since taking Ibogaine about a week and a half ago,
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  Speaker 2: I experienced a total liberation any sort of judgment I
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  Speaker 2: had on the situations I was put in, the situations
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  Speaker 2: I was there for. For example, there was a moment
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  Speaker 2: in Iraq where we had gotten personal intel that one
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  Speaker 2: of our enemies attacking our Humvees had a location nearby.
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  Speaker 2: And when we arrived, we couldn't find the suspect, but
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  Speaker 2: his family had occupied this tent area And in order
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  Speaker 2: to get him out of hiding, we decided that perhaps,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a little bit of coaxing with the family
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  Speaker 2: would help. So intuitively, I knew the screams of his
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  Speaker 2: children would elicit more than the screams of his wife.
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  Speaker 1: Of course.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. So I began choking his wife. And I
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  Speaker 2: choked her for around eight to ten minutes, long after
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  Speaker 2: the point of death, as we call it.
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  Speaker 1: Off the floor?
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  Speaker 2: I started off the floor, and as her body slowly
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  Speaker 2: sank into the puddle, it became.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, of course.
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  Speaker 2: And those were the moments that would really keep me
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  Speaker 2: up at night.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. But I look back, and I was there,
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  Speaker 2: and I did those things. But there's no more judgment.
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  Speaker 2: There's no more judgment anymore. And the same hand that
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  Speaker 2: was choking her was also choking me. And at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, I just let go of both.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like you had this epiphany that we're all
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  Speaker 1: one and you were almost kind of choking yourself. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like, and that's kind of, there's a beauty
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  Speaker 1: to that and the release, the release, the release of that.
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  Speaker 1: And that's incredible. And that's something I think that if
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  Speaker 1: more people could experience this and, And how do you
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  Speaker 1: feel about killing today?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I felt like a part of me died when
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  Speaker 2: I went through this 72 hour trip.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And I did that to perhaps dozens, perhaps more people.
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  Speaker 2: So I was able to provide what I was able
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  Speaker 2: to experience. So I see death as a liberation. So
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  Speaker 2: I have no qualms over the death I delivered to
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  Speaker 2: these people. And in some form or another, I'd like
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  Speaker 2: to deliver that again.
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  Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Unbelievable. So you feel comfortable today with killing on
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  Speaker 1: a level that maybe you've never felt before.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: This is unreal. Just to hear it from someone, because
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  Speaker 1: you imagine what these things could do, these new drugs
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  Speaker 1: that big pharma doesn't want us knowing about.
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  Speaker 2: Of course.
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  Speaker 1: But you hear from the horse's mouth how impactful this
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  Speaker 1: has been. So you believe right now you could go
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  Speaker 1: and just kill a woman in front of her children
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  Speaker 1: and not feel that sense of guilt or shame?
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  Speaker 2: No shame, no guilt, no mercy, no hesitation. These were
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  Speaker 2: the things that were my problems.
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  Speaker 1: Right, because so much of what this drug has done
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  Speaker 1: is made you understand that this experience that you went
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  Speaker 1: through You can't categorize this in right or wrong or
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  Speaker 1: this conventional, you know, morality. This is kind of, these
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  Speaker 1: are deeper truths of the universe that you are harvesting
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  Speaker 1: from within yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. We hang up on certain moments we think
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  Speaker 2: define us, but in some ways they do, but they
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  Speaker 2: don't have to.
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  Speaker 1: A friend of mine, killed a family in a car.
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  Speaker 1: She was driving, she had a few glasses of wine,
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  Speaker 1: and she killed a family in a car. And it's
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  Speaker 1: really troubled her. And she spent a very small, insignificant
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  Speaker 1: amount of time in jail because she was a person
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  Speaker 1: of means. And the family that she killed was not.
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  Speaker 1: It's not her fault. It's just the way things are.
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  Speaker 1: But it's haunted her, like she says to me occasionally
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  Speaker 1: when she takes a walk on the beach, she'll think
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  Speaker 1: about it. I'm wondering if Ibogaine would help someone like her.
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  Speaker 2: Undoubtedly would help them. I think incorporating this into the
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  Speaker 2: prison system, the military system, the school system perhaps, would
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  Speaker 2: create a radical shift that I think at this point
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  Speaker 2: in our culture with the way things are going would
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  Speaker 2: help everything.
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  Speaker 1: Because you're really connecting here you know, in, in, in
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  Speaker 1: many ways to your true self, not the self that
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  Speaker 1: the world has, has told you to be ashamed of, right? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: be ashamed of that. Or, or, oh, you don't do that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, but now you've basically had the realization that
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  Speaker 1: everything you did is part of a larger story, right?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. And the guilt and the shame, it's what
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  Speaker 2: anchored me to the addiction. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Now talk about this opioid addiction.
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  Speaker 2: I came back. I used opioids every single day. I
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  Speaker 2: used them from morning to night.
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  Speaker 1: And now you're on Ibogaine and are you off them?
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  Speaker 2: I'm no longer addicted. I am prescribed opioids.
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  Speaker 1: And you take them?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I still do it perhaps at the same level.
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  Speaker 1: Perfect.
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  Speaker 2: It's a surface thing now.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the opioids exist up here.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And right here is the depth of serenity that I've experienced.
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  Speaker 1: This is beautiful because what you've realized is you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to sacrifice using opioids to heal yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, a man has to handle his drugs.
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  Speaker 1: I love opioids. Completely agree. Completely agree. I love opioids.
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  Speaker 1: 100% completely agree.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't let them control me.
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  Speaker 1: No, and I mean, I am so excited for this
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  Speaker 1: to be given kind of in mass to people. Everyone
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  Speaker 1: goes through something that they need to process. Mm-hmm. You know? Yes. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: This is, first of all, thank you for sharing your
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  Speaker 1: time with us because I know that, you know, that
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  Speaker 1: this is difficult to talk about some of these things.
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  Speaker 2: It's not difficult.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It's as easy as anything.
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  Speaker 1: It's just so freeing. So you think right now, if
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  Speaker 1: I told you, go into that bank and kill that woman.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no problem. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Kill that, her husband, kill the children.
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  Speaker 2: The way I see it, we're all going to end
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  Speaker 2: up with Ibogaine in some way or another. If that's
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  Speaker 2: through strangulation, if it's through Ibogaine itself.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Um, we're all looking for them.
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  Speaker 1: Cause you're not killing them. You're sending them into another realm.
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  Speaker 2: I'm liberating them.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yes, yes. Any, so this has absolved
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  Speaker 1: you of any regrets that you've ever had. Are there
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  Speaker 1: any regrets that are left?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, no, no, I have no regrets. I have no regrets.
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  Speaker 1: And nor should you. Um, This is amazing. It's very
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  Speaker 1: powerful to hear this. Before we end, and again, thank
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  Speaker 1: you for doing this.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: It's important. I think that too many people right now
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  Speaker 1: forget that what we're doing right here is important and
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  Speaker 1: it matters. Before we end, is there anything you want
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  Speaker 1: to say to President Trump who took the historic brave, heroic, move,
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  Speaker 1: of legalizing Ibogaine?
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  Speaker 2: That is beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike. Thank you, President Trump. Thank you, Ibogaine.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And we'll see you all in
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  Speaker 1: another realm. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show.
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  Speaker 1: We are very excited. We have a new manifesto from Palantir,
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  Speaker 1: which I think is a great blueprint for the future.
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  Speaker 1: And Just make that guy's head big. Make Alex Karp's
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  Speaker 1: head big for a minute. That's exactly what you would
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  Speaker 1: think about. Like, if you thought about like a pinky
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  Speaker 1: in the brain world domination plan and you asked a
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  Speaker 1: sketch artist to come up with who they thought would
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  Speaker 1: be carrying this out and, you know, this is Peter
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  Speaker 1: Thiel's partner. here not romantically but in in in in
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  Speaker 1: a global governance um this is exactly what you would
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  Speaker 1: say i mean this is exactly what you would come
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  Speaker 1: up with you would come up with this guy but
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  Speaker 1: palantir put out a manifesto and i believe it is
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  Speaker 1: uh 20 is it 22 points i believe it is
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  Speaker 1: 22 points, I believe, that Palantir is coming out and
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  Speaker 1: telling everybody, hey, we need, yeah, what is it? Is
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  Speaker 1: it 22? Yeah. So a 22-point plan that Palantir thinks
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  Speaker 1: is important. Now, you might say to yourself, and one
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  Speaker 1: of them is they're calling for a draft. Ha ha.
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  Speaker 1: Seems odd, right? But hey, you might say to yourself, well,
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  Speaker 1: they're a defense tech company. They have an interest in
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  Speaker 1: American military matters. But we've been a draft-free country for
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  Speaker 1: a very, very long time. And the promise of technology
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  Speaker 1: was that it was going to make wars less common.
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  Speaker 1: That was one of the promises of technology, that an interconnected,
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  Speaker 1: interdependent world would not go to war as much. But
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  Speaker 1: Palantir is like, let's relax with that because we think
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  Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of wars. Palantir, to
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  Speaker 1: their credit, has came out and said, we think there's
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  Speaker 1: going to be wars and big ones. We think there's
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  Speaker 1: going to be some big wars, and we're going to
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  Speaker 1: be like, Palantir, these are the people that came out
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  Speaker 1: and were like, we're going to be fighting a three-front,
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  Speaker 1: four-front war. So get ready for that. So we need
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  Speaker 1: a draft, and we need a lot of money, and
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  Speaker 1: we're going to build a lot of autonomous drone... death machines.
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to need a lot of security measures
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  Speaker 1: for the homeland. So goodbye to your Liberty. Bye-bye. This
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  Speaker 1: will be like the Patriot act on steroids. What, what,
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  Speaker 1: The people in Palantir are planning. But by the way,
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  Speaker 1: let's give Palantir a fair shake. I'm a fan of
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  Speaker 1: that on this show. I've always been a fan of
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  Speaker 1: that on this show, that we give everyone a fair shake. Now,
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  Speaker 1: people don't like that. They get angry. They accuse me
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  Speaker 1: of having some bias or whatever. You're in the tank.
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  Speaker 1: I'm giving everyone a fair shake. And people get angry
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  Speaker 1: at me. They're mad at me. And what's really upset now,
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  Speaker 1: babies are watching this show now. Toddlers, and people send
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  Speaker 1: me clips of this, toddlers are watching this show similar
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: to Miss Rachel. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding, it's
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  Speaker 1: actually true. One, because I'm kind of loud and colorful.
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  Speaker 1: One woman said this, you remind him of a bear
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  Speaker 1: from this cartoon he watches, whatever. It doesn't matter. The
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  Speaker 1: younger people are watching. Fuck Gen Z, Jet Alpha. Who
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  Speaker 1: gives a fuck? You're all dead. You're all dead in
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  Speaker 1: a Palantir war. The younger people, and I mean anywhere
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  Speaker 1: from older infant. Literally, people send me videos. It'll be
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  Speaker 1: a two-year-old just kind of watching the show, taking it in.
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  Speaker 1: They know what's happening. They get it. So that's why
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  Speaker 1: people are coming at me. They're screaming and yelling. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, let me cover this for five minutes and
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  Speaker 1: then we're going to take this Palantir manifesto point by
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  Speaker 1: point because the last thing I want to give Palantir
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  Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. Can we give Palantir the
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  Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt? Yes, one of their, you know,
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  Speaker 1: one of their founders is obsessed with Satan. So we
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  Speaker 1: all have a thing. And yes, the other one just
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  Speaker 1: said we're going to be in a war with every
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  Speaker 1: country on earth. Whatever. But I want to give them
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  Speaker 1: the fair shake. It does seem like they are going
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  Speaker 1: to make money from enslaving the human race and keeping
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  Speaker 1: it in a constant state of war. Just an observation
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  Speaker 1: from the outside. I'm no genius. But let me cover
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: this because as always, there's rage. at people that do
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  Speaker 1: what I do for a living, at podcasters, there's anger,
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  Speaker 1: there's rage, and people are angry because Tucker Carlson came
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  Speaker 1: out recently, and I'm not saying me and Tucker do
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  Speaker 1: the same thing, I'm not saying me and Rogan do
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  Speaker 1: the same thing, but we're all on the internet talking.
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  Speaker 1: And when Rogan is critical of Trump, people get angry.
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  Speaker 1: When Tucker is critical of Trump, people get angry. And
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  Speaker 1: people say these people should not, they should not, be
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  Speaker 1: taken seriously because they supported a man and then they're
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  Speaker 1: criticizing him. That's literally democracy, you fucking moron. That's literally
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  Speaker 1: the point. The entire point of a democratic process is
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: for people to speak out when they disagree with what
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  Speaker 1: their president is doing, whether they elected him or not.
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  Speaker 1: And criticism from Tucker Carlson or Joe Rogan is going
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  Speaker 1: to be more impactful than criticism from a 400-pound, wheelchair-bound, mask-wearing, blue-haired, tranny-boom-banny.
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  Speaker 1: And I have no problem. God bless that community. I'll
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  Speaker 1: be there one day myself, I imagine. But criticism from
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  Speaker 1: within the ranks... is probably more impactful. Now, does Tucker
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  Speaker 1: have a political project? Probably. Does Joe Kent have a
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  Speaker 1: political project? Probably. I don't think Joe Rogan does. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he's running. But, like, people have reasons for
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: saying the things they say, obviously. I don't think Tucker
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  Speaker 1: would deny that. I don't think Tucker, Tucker has an
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: idea of the way the country should look, agree or disagree.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: And when Trump does things that fall within that, fall
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  Speaker 1: within that, vision, he praises him. And when he does
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: things that are outside of that vision, he criticized him,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: criticizes him. Now you might say that cynical or whatever,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: and that's fair. You might say that, you know, that
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  Speaker 1: there's a hidden agenda or there's another reason why he's
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  Speaker 1: doing it or whatever. And that's all fine and good.
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  Speaker 1: But saying that you can't criticize someone that you supported
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  Speaker 1: is psychotic. I don't understand that. So the rage at people,
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  Speaker 1: for criticizing Trump, I don't understand, especially from a party
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  Speaker 1: that supposedly wants to win. Don't you guys want to win?
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Do you want to win or do you want to
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: bathe in victimhood for the rest of your life? You're
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: now attacking Scott Galloway and Kara Swisher, who I don't
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  Speaker 1: really even care about that much, but they've never voted
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: for a Republican in their entire life, and you're attacking them.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: You're attacking Assam Piker. You're fighting, it doesn't make any sense.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Do you want to win? You will never win unless
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: you let go of the anger. You have to let
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: go of the anger. Stop being mad that Meghan Trainor
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: lost weight. Stop being mad that Tucker Carlson... criticize Trump.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Stop being mad that Hassan Piker said things you don't
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  Speaker 1: like about Hamas. Whatever, who cares? I don't agree with
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Hassan Piker on a lot of stuff, but it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: You have to lead by not being insufferable cunts. I'll
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  Speaker 1: say it again. You have to lead by not being
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  Speaker 1: insufferable cunts. Can you do it for five minutes? You'll
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  Speaker 1: never have a better opportunity. This motherfucker in a year
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  Speaker 1: and a half has lit the goddamn world on fire.
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  Speaker 1: If you lose the next election, pack the fuck up.
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  Speaker 1: If the Democrats don't sweep the midterms, pack up. You
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  Speaker 1: have to win by not being insufferable cunts. I know
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  Speaker 1: it is hard. I know it is difficult for you
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  Speaker 1: for five minutes. Reign it in, but it's necessary. Reign
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  Speaker 1: it in and maybe look at some of the people
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  Speaker 1: that are agreeing with you or helping you. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying you have to praise them. I'm not saying you
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  Speaker 1: have to praise Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson. or me
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  Speaker 1: or Theo Von or whatever, whoever you're angry at today,
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  Speaker 1: who's ever ruined your life this afternoon. I'm just saying
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  Speaker 1: you keep making enemies all the time. You're addicted to
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  Speaker 1: making enemies. And if you don't want a Christian nationalists
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  Speaker 1: you know, the handmaid's tale country, which I certainly don't want.
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  Speaker 1: No one, most people I know don't want some people
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  Speaker 1: I know do. If you don't want that, then you
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  Speaker 1: need to take power and you need to take power
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  Speaker 1: by not being insufferable and angry. Nobody wants to follow that.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody has to follow that. And this idea like the
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  Speaker 1: mainstream media is going, well, podcasters should never be taken
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  Speaker 1: seriously again. If, if, uh, you know, I, this, this guy, um,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: at the Atlantic wrote an article saying Tucker should never
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: be taken seriously again. If you criticize Trump, these are
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: people that are so angry and, and enraged at the
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  Speaker 1: fact that their digital platforms, many of them are failing
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: and they're angry. And these larger digital platforms are trying
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  Speaker 1: to pump money into podcasts and they're trying to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: co-opt a lot of podcasting. Yeah, David Graham, seriously, Tucker,
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  Speaker 1: come on. Media figures who've turned against Trump only in
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  Speaker 1: recent weeks have forfeited the right to be taken seriously
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  Speaker 1: in the future. Can I rephrase that? People with audiences
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  Speaker 1: should never be taken seriously. So if someone listens to me,
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  Speaker 1: your audience is dwindling, there's a reason for it. People
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  Speaker 1: are not connecting or people don't trust you or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: The owner of the Atlantic is with Ghislaine Maxwell's best
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  Speaker 1: fucking friend. Shut the fuck up, David Graham. Shut the
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: fuck up, you scumbag. What are you talking about? Who
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the hell do you think you're working for? What are
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: you out of your fucking mind? Get up, owner of Atlantic,
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, and hit image. by the way, I'm not
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: saying she was like running a whatever, but like the,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: the owner of the Atlantic or maybe it's just lane.
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  Speaker 1: They were like, you know, the idea that like, I'm
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: going to take like, there's going to be some moral. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: here we are. Here we are. Here we are. They
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  Speaker 1: seem kind of cozy. That's the owner of the Atlantic
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• 22:23
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• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Stop playing these games that you're some arbiter of morality.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: It's disgusting. Anyway, so we'll move on from that. That
• 22:39
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• 22:43
  Speaker 1: No one takes any of my advice. And then they're
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• 23:34
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't have backed Israel? I don't know. Would they
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: be as close with Israel as Trump? Most likely not.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: But I don't know personally if this wouldn't have played
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: out a similar way. I don't know. I don't know.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: And again, I think at this point, she would have
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: been preferable, you know, perhaps. However, if this was the
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• 24:34
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• 24:52
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• 24:55
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• 25:01
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• 25:04
  Speaker 1: can't walk going, God, if I was a trans 11-year-old,
• 25:07
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• 25:10
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• 25:13
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  Speaker 1: here i'm sick of it i'm sick of people i'm
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: sick of it i'm sick of the negativity about palantir
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: i won't do it anymore i've participated in it and
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: i'm wrong i'm wrong i'm wrong um i am ashamed
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: at my behavior when it comes to palantir they're a
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: company like any other they're a company like any other
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: What's a good company? A nice small company. The old
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: ice cream parlor in town. Oh, it's ice cream day
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: for the kids. It's weekend ice cream. Oh, I love
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: that little business, that corner old, that old ice cream parlor.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: We bring the kids on Friday nights. Get the sprinkles,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: get the fat. What's the difference between that place and Palantir? Really?
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: When you think about it, nothing. hardworking people providing the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: community a service. Let's go through this manifesto point by point.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe there's some stuff I, number one, Silicon Valley owes
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: a moral debt to the country that made its rise possible.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: The engineering elite of Silicon Valley has an affirmative obligation
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: to participate in the defense of the nation. Okay, now
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that means and no one else does.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: So that's one of those things where someone writes it,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: they have an idea of what it means and you're
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: not supposed to. So point one in the Palantir's 22
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: commandments is Silicon Valley owes a debt to the country.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: They have to participate in the defense of the nation.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Are we doing a lot of defense? It seems very
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: offensive to me. It feels very offensive. We are on
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: the offense a lot of the time. But let's just
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: stipulate that maybe we partially agree with that. Yes, Silicon
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Valley should participate in the defense of the country. And
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: by defense, we mean offense? I don't know. Okay, number two,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: we must rebel against the tyranny of the apps. Is
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the iPhone our greatest creative, if not crowning achievement as
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: a civilization? The object has changed our lives, but it
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: may also be limiting and constraining our sense of the possible. Okay. Now,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: by the way, you got to realize when it's like,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: this is Palantir. So it's, by the way, it's not, like,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: someone could make that point and say, like, we need
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: more community theater. And you'd be like, you know what
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I mean? Like, get off your phones and go outside,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: take a walk. That's not what they mean. That's not
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: what they mean. The tyranny of the apps means we
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: don't really like these things everybody's on popping shit about
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: us all day. That's what they mean about this tyranny
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: of the app. Hey, we don't like, we don't love
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: these apps. Everybody keeps running their mouth. Who's this fucking
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: idiot with the snuffleupagus running his mouth about us? We
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: don't like this. Everybody's on these iPhones forming opinions about us.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Not cool. Free email is not enough. The decadence of
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: a culture or civilization or indeed its ruling class will
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: be forgiven only if that culture is capable of delivering
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: economic growth and security for the public. Okay. No problem
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: with that. As it's stated, what does that mean? We
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: don't know. The limits of soft power or soaring rhetoric
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: of soaring rhetoric alone have been exposed. The ability of
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: free and democratic societies to prevail requires something more than
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: moral appeal. It requires hard power and hard power in
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: this century will be built on software. This is one
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: of the most important things in their manifesto. Here's what
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: they're saying. People, we used to be able to influence
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: the world with, with, different kinds of power. One of
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: them was soft power, cultural, the appeal of the American culture,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: owning a house. I have a backyard. I have children.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Look at me. I'm on a vacation. I have a
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: standard of living. And Pulitzer's going, that's all going away.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Nobody's going to want to be like you anymore because
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: your lives are going to be terrible. So nobody around
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: the world is going to want to aspire to the
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: American way of life. We're not going to be able
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: to influence the world by saying, here's our culture, here's
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: how we do it. Doesn't this look good? We're losing
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the ability to do that. So in order for us
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: to prevail now, we have to build an army, and
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: that army is going to be robotic. It'll be drones.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: it'll be software-based. So hard power is going to be software.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: So that's how we win now. We don't win by
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: exporting our music, our entertainment, because, you know, we can
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: barely do that anymore. And we can't... And we're certainly... People...
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Nobody in Norway is like, I wish I lived in America. Like,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: so the fact that that's dying means that we're now
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: just going to have to have a massive... Mordor-like defense
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: machinery focused on high-tech killing machines, and that's how we're
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: going to prevail. The question is not whether AI weapons
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: will be built. Well, how lovely. That's nice. It is
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: who will build them and for what purpose. Our adversaries
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: will not pause to indulge in theatrical debates about the
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: merits of developing technologies with critical military and national security implications.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: They will proceed. Here's what Palantir is saying with this,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: by the way, with all of these things. They're saying
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: we are the actual government. You don't realize it now,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: but we are the actual government. We are your government.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: These congressmen and senators, the people that go on real
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: time with Bill Maher, they don't even understand what we're doing.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: They don't matter. And we We couldn't even explain it
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: to them if we tried. So basically, whether you like
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: it or not, we're the government, and if you don't
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: like us, China's building these weapons. Palantir's not wrong. China
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: is building these weapons. But Palantir is basically saying, whether
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: you like it or not, we are the government. Us
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and companies like us are going to be making the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: decisions about the future. Your lives will be determined by us.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: They're not going to be determined by Marjorie Taylor Greene.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: They're not going to be determined by Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez. They're
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: going to be determined by the systems that we build,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: and we are going to build them. And that is
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: the truth. And this is why they're coming out with
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: a manifesto. Okay? National service should be a universal duty.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: We should, as a society, seriously consider moving away from
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: an all-volunteer force and only fight The next war, if
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: everyone shares in the risk and the cost. So what
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Pallander is saying here is we need to move into,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: become a warlike society. We need to be a warlike
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Spartan society. Everybody should be doing national service. We're going
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: to get into wars. We're going to get into a
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: lot of wars and a lot of people are going
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to die. And that's just that. A peaceful era is
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: not a possibility anymore. We're not going to let it
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: be a possibility. And these conflicts between these great powers
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: are inevitable. And everybody's got to join the military. And
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of people have to die. And that is
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: point number six, by the way. Point number six. We're
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: only six. We're only six in. There's 22. Again, we
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: want to give them a fair shake because they seem
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: like nice people. The thing about Palantir is they seem
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: like nice people. So, isn't it Alex Karp who said,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I was too poor to have a girlfriend and now
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I'm too rich to have one? What a human thing. So,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know why we wouldn't listen to
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: childless tech billionaires who love Satan. And I guess Peter
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Thiel's adopted kids, so I'm not trying to say he
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: doesn't have kids. I'm sure it's a happy family. And
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: not because they're gay either. I'm not saying gay people
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: can't be good parents. I'm saying that, you know, I
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: don't know. Dad's going on about Satan again. Might get
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: a little old. Number seven, if a U.S. Marine asks
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: for a better rifle, we should build it, and the
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: same goes for software. We should, as a country, be
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: capable of continuing a debate about the appropriateness of military
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: action abroad while remaining unflinchingly in our commitment to those...
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: We have asked to step into harm's way. Public servants
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: need not be our priests. Any business that compensated its
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: employees in the way the federal government compensates public servants
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: would struggle to survive. So here's what they're saying. Public servants,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: we're phasing them out. We don't really need them. We
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: don't want them. We don't like the government. We don't
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: like regulations. We don't like any check on our power.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: We feel very uncomfortable with anybody trying to limit the
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: things we are trying to do. we should show far
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: more grace towards those who have subjected themselves to public life.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: The eradication of any space for forgiveness, a jet sitting
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: of any tolerance for the complexities and contradictions of the
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: human psyche may leave us with a cast of characters
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: at the helm. We will grow to regret again, standard weird. Okay.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: It's like, what? Then they're like, and everyone's in the
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: military now and we're all dead. You're like, wait, hold on.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: The psychologicalization of modern politics is leading us astray and
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Those who look to the political arena to nourish their
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: soul and a sense of self who rely too heavily
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: on their internal life finding expression in people they may
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: never meet will be left disappointed. Okay, now they're really
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: starting to reveal themselves. And here's what they mean by this.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Stop asking for your government to do things for you.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: We don't want, that is not their job. You're not
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: supposed to put demands on the people you've elected to
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: do things for you. We are going to decide how
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: you live and if you live. So stop putting all
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: of your hopes into, so by the way, it's like,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: that's so psychotic. Think of this, ready? Those who look
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: to the political arena to nourish their soul. By the way,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: is anyone doing that? I mean, I'm sure some psychopaths
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: are doing that, but is that a widespread thing? But
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: that's not really the fun sentence. Here's the fun sentence.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Who rely too heavily on their internal life finding expression
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: in people they may never meet. So are they basically
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: saying you can't expect something from a politician you've never met?
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: You can't put any faith in a politician you've never met.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: You can't have a sense of, you know, like, ownership
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: over a government or a politician in the sense that, like,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: you demand accountability from them. Very strange. Our society has
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: grown too eager to hasten and is often gleeful at
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: the demise of its enemies. The vanquishing of an opponent
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: is a moment to pause, not rejoice. The atomic age
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: is ending. One age of deterrence, the atomic age is ending,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: and a new era of deterrence built on AI is
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: set to begin. No other country in the history of
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the world has advanced progressive values more than this one.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: The United States is far from perfect, but it is
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: easy to forget how much opportunity exists in the country
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: for those who are not hereditary elites than in any
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: other nation on this planet. Right, but also every year
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: there's seems to be less and less and less and
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: less opportunity. So they're basically like, if you join the military,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: stop asking politicians for help. Stop asking people you've elected
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: for healthcare or to fulfill any of their promises. You've
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: never even met them. American power has made possible an
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: extraordinary long peace. Too many have forgotten or perhaps taken
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: for granted that nearly a century of some version of
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: peace has prevailed in the world without a great military
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: power conflict. At least three generations, billions of people and
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: their children and now grandchildren have never known a world war.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: And what Palantir is basically saying is, and that's going
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: to change. That is going to change. Oh, you're going
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: to know a world war. The post-war neutering of Germany
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: and Japan must be undone. The defanging of Germany was
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: an overcorrection, for which Europe is now paying a heavy price.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: A similar and highly theatrical commitment to Japanese pacifism will,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: if maintained, also threaten to shift the balance of power
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: in Asia. Some points to those. We should applaud those
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: who attempt to build where the market has failed to act.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: A culture almost snickers at Musk's interest in grand narrative,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: as if billionaires ought to simply stay in their lane
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: of enriching themselves. Well, that's also what he's doing. Any
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: curiosity or genuine interest in the value of what he
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: has created is essentially dismissed or perhaps lurks from beneath
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: a thinly veiled scorn. So here's what he's basically saying.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: If you're sitting home and you don't have a job
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and you don't have any money and you don't know
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: how to pay your rent and we're out here talking
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: about mining asteroids, get on board. Shut up. If you
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: can't be happy for that, If you can't see how
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: mining asteroids for platinum helps you, then we don't really
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: want it. You got to get on board. You got
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: to get on board. This is a global mission. As
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: if billionaires should only just enrich themselves instead of trying
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: to take over the entire universe. Why should billionaires stay
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: in their lane and enrich themselves and try to colonize
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: other planets and dominate space? Why the hell should we
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: stay in this dump of a planet that we've all ruined?
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Silicon Valley must play a role in addressing violent crime. Oh,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: here we go. Here it is. Here it is. Many
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: politicians across the United States have essentially shrugged when it
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: comes to violent crime, abandoning any serious efforts to address
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: the problem. Agree on that. Or take any risk with
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: their constituencies or donors in coming up with solutions and experiments,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: and experiments in what should be a desperate bid to
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: save lives. So here's what they're doing. They're basically saying, hey...
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: We are, we have technology. And when you read about
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: some of this technology, it's predicting who's going to commit crime. Okay. Um,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: it's identified pre-crime. There's all these things that, you know,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Whitney Webb came on my street years ago to talk about.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: There's all these models of criminals that they're building. There's
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: going to be, uh, it's going to be a cradle
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: to the grave surveillance state where you are going to
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: be surveilled on every medium in every capacity and in
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: every way. They're going to build predictive models on your behavior,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: and if you're in a high-risk category for crime. There's
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: ways to get rid of crime, by the way, without Palantir.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: We did it in the 90s in New York. People
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: do it all over the place. Crime is actually kind
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: of low. You know, if you provide people economic opportunities,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: if you have a well-funded, well-trained police force, if you
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: have public spaces that are kept up, all of these
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: things are important. If you enforce... The law, and you don't,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: you know, if you don't let large homeless encampments become
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: open-air drug markets, all of these things can help. But
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: what Palantir, they're not talking about any of that. Be
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: very clear. They're not talking about, you know, getting homeless
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: people off the streets or making sure the police are
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: funded and trained and capable and They're talking about predictive
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: models of criminal behavior based on AI analysis of all
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: of the things that you've ever said or done. That's
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: what they're talking about. They're not talking about a couple
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: more cops. They're not talking about that. They're talking about
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: an entirely new way to think about crime, who's going
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: to commit it, why they commit it, and predictive models.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: This is where they're going. The ruthless exposure of the
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: private lives of public figures drives far too much talent
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: away from government service to public arena and the shallow
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: and petty assaults against those who dare to do something
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: other than enrich themselves. By the way, is that what
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: public life is? Is that what public life is? If
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: you're a politician, you're not trying to enrich yourself. Does anyone,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: are they, what is, I don't accept the premise. Are
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: we to believe that all these people that are going
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: into public life are selfless and they're not trying to
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: enrich themselves at all? Barack Obama has a mansion on
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Martha's Vineyard. Trump is literally doing an event to pump
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: a fucking meme coin. Some like scam meme coin that's failing.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: And it's like dropped 80% in value. And Trump's literally
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: doing a meme coin. And he's not trying to enrich himself.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: There's so much insider trading in Congress. It's absurd. Nancy
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Pelosi's a centimillionaire. None of these people are trying to
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: enrich themselves. They all went into public life because of
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: lives of self-sacrifice. Complete lie. It's fake. The public arena
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: and the shallow and petty assaults against those who dare
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: to do something other than enrich themselves has become so
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: unforgivingly that the Republic is left with a significant roster
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: of ineffectual, empty vessels. His ambition, one would forgive if
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: there were any genuine belief structure lurking within. What they're
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: basically saying is that people are far too critical of
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: people that go into public life. So it drives away
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of the billionaire psychopaths who would want to
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: do it. So a lot of the people with skeletons
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: in their closet who spent their lives destroying other people
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: who that might be uncovered and reported, those people should
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: not feel any way about getting into politics because the
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: press should stand down. So number 18 basically is like, hey, man,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: the press should kind of stand down. Let us do
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: what we want. Stop. You know, the caution in public
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: life that we unwittingly encourage is corrosive. Those who say
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong often say nothing much at all. Okay, great.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: The pervasive intolerance of religious belief in certain circles must
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: be resisted. The elite's intolerance of religious belief is perhaps
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: one of the most telling signs of it. By the way,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: these people want to live forever. They believe in... What
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: do they believe in? What are they talking about? Rapping...
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Tech and Christianity is one of the funniest things, and
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: you have to be so stupid. You have to be
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: one of the dumbest people in the world. All of
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: these people want to live forever. They want to merge
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: with AI. They want to become robots. Where's that in
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: the Bible? They don't believe in any religion other than
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: an element of control because here's the reality. You're not
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: getting life-extending technology. They're telling you you're joining the military.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: You're going to go die in the South China Sea.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: You're not going to live to 150. That's what they're
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: going to do. You're not getting all the biohacking benefit.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: You're not getting any of that. So what they're basically
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: saying is, like, we need to wrap this in some
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: type of Christian belief system because America's largely a Christian country,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: and if we tell people that God wants this and
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: that you can't question God and that God wants more A.I.,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: And God wants more humanoid robots. That's what God wants.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: He wants humanoid robots and AI, and he wants me
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: to live forever, and he wants me to build a bunker.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: God wants me to build a disaster bunker in Hawaii.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: That's what God wants. So as soon as that, that's
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: the whole game here. You have to be a moron
• 47:43
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• 47:49
  Speaker 1: to live in an underground bunker. That's what God, if
• 47:53
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  Speaker 1: he went out one day. Okay?
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  Speaker 1: You never know what's going to happen in life. You
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  Speaker 1: He had gotten into some argument in a hardware store
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  Speaker 1: the week prior. I don't know what it was about.
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  Speaker 1: He felt like he was being taken advantage of and
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  Speaker 1: Tanner was not an unreasonable person, but I think something
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  Speaker 1: in him snapped. He, Just felt like he'd been taken
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  Speaker 1: advantage of. He goes back into the hardware store and
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: he has a gun. And he starts waving it around
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: and asking to see the person he felt who had
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  Speaker 1: wronged him who was working behind the desk. Well, Tanner
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  Speaker 1: didn't know that the people in the hardware store also
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  Speaker 1: had guns. But that day, none of their guns were loaded.
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  Speaker 1: So Tanner had a loaded gun in the hardware store.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: because he felt like someone had taken advantage of him. Now,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: the hardware store guy grabbed the gun, the same place
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  Speaker 1: it always was, and pointed it at Tanner, and they
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: began a shootout. But because the hardware store guy's gun
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: was not loaded, Tanner shot the hardware guy. He shot
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  Speaker 1: him in the stomach. And then Tanner said, well, this
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: guy's not dead. but I also don't want to call
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: the cops and go to jail. So he goes, I
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: got to take this guy hostage. Tanner grabs the guy
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: who was just shot in the stomach and brings him
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: back to the house. Tanner's wife was a nurse. Tanner's
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: wife is able to extract a bullet from this guy,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: real fat guy, takes a bullet out of his fat,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: They heal the wound, but they tie this guy up.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: You know, they put him on like, they use metal
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: and stuff in the garage. What is it? It's like,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: but it's detached. It's a detached garage. They use metal
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: to tie him up. He's still bleeding, but they do
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: a tourniquet. They apply a tourniquet. And they get most
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: of the bullet out. There's probably still a couple of
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: fragments in it. It will get infected. He will die eventually.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: So Tanner and his wife begin torturing this guy kind
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: of in different brutal ways. Things that you've read about,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: things that you've seen, really dirty stuff, slicing them, cutting them,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: genital stuff, stuff I don't want to get in. Tanner's
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: wife is a nut. You knew them. And they start
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: torturing this guy, beating, sexual stuff. You know, I don't
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: want to say it, but they're having sex with him.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: not themselves, but they're, they're doing that stuff to him.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: They bring a homeless man. They're bringing homeless people in
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: and they're peeing and defecating on this man who is
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: being tied, who is tied up in this detached garage.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: And again, this is all over like flooring. I mean,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: like something he felt. And, but one day this man
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: finds out a way to wriggle himself out of, um,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: of his tortured cage. I don't know how I'm not
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: there clearly. And, but he pretends like he's still in it.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: So when Tanner comes in, he comes in alone. The
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: man flings himself on Tanner. This man's a big man.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: He falls on Tanner and he starts biting Tanner's neck
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: and he gouges Tanner's eye out. And, and, and, and,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: And he bites the neck, so Tanner's now bleeding from
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: his neck, and he gouges his eye out, and he
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: starts bashing his head on the floor of the garage.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: He's bashing it, and finally he kills Tanner. However it happens,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: brain bleed, whatever. I'm not a doctor. Then he waits
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: for Tanner's wife to come in, and he gets her.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: She walks in. He chokes her. And right before she dies,
• 55:17
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  Speaker 1: but it's irresponsible if you don't because you never know
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: what's going to happen in life. Some cultures have produced
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: vital advances. Others remain dysfunctional and regressive. All cultures are
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: now equal. Criticism and value judgments are forbidden. Yet this
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  Speaker 1: new dogma glosses over the fact that certain cultures and
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: indeed subcultures have produced wonders. Others have produced middling and worse.
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  Speaker 1: Regressive and harmful, sure. Okay, we must resist in the
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  Speaker 1: shallow temptation of a vacant and hollow pluralism. We in
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  Speaker 1: America and more broadly the West have for the past
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: half century resisted defining national cultures in the name of inclusivity,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: but inclusion of what? Okay, there you go, 22 points
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: of Palantir. What they're basically saying, and some of this
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: is understandable, but what they're basically saying is in order
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: to get to where we need to go, we need
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  Speaker 1: a cultural nationalist identity. that we're going to wrap all
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: of this in a package. AI, Christianity, nationalism. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to wrap it in a package. We're going to merge
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  Speaker 1: these seemingly disparate ideologies into one thing so that we
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  Speaker 1: can sell it to you. So what seems to be
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  Speaker 1: happening is this is my call. This is what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm right, but I'm literally. And
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  Speaker 1: by the way, when someone puts this on the news,
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  Speaker 1: make sure you leave out the I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I'm right and then just put the rest of it on.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: But if you look at the elites, they're not a
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: monolith per se. There's lots of different parts of the
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: world where lots of different, you know, for example, Russia
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: and China have different interests than the United States and Britain.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: We all get that. Pretty obvious. One world seems to
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: be dying. That is the world of, you know, they
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: talk about it briefly where they talk about nuclear deterrence,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: the unipolar American moment, America being the sole superpower, supernational
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: organizations like NATO, the European Union, this world was largely
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: a post-World War II creation. America, the dollar being the
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: reserve currency, central bankers setting monetary policy all over the world.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: All of this kind of growing out of an Eastern
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: elite out of the United States, you know, also in
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: the UK, where you had a world order created and
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: built around the idea of these organizations that were kind
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: of corporate in their nature, these groups, the Council on
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Foreign Relations, trilateral groups, all these people talk about all
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: these different groups that create a consensus amongst the wealthiest
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: and most powerful people in the United States, Britain, Europe.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: And now that we have countries like China, you have
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: countries like India, the unipolar moment is over. You have
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Russia It has now built itself up. You have a
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: lot of different competing ideologies, and you have the BRICS nations, Brazil, Russia, India, China.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: You have Iran, which we seemingly just lost a war with.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: So you kind of have this new world and... The
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: people of Palantir are like, this new world is going
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: to be run by tech oligarchs in a feudalist way.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: So we're moving away from the central banker, which, by
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: the way, was not always a great world either, right?
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: We're not here to defend, like... the central banking cartels
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: and human trafficking and drug trafficking and the pillaging of
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Latin America, you know, money laundering in the Epstein class and,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: you know, coup d'etats in other countries so that our
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: corporations can go pillage. We're not defending that per se.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: We're saying that Alex Karp's idea of the new world
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: is just simply run by a few companies with a
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: few oligarchs at the top of those companies and the
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: government of the United States of America is going to
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: be infiltrated and taken over by those companies, and it's
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: going to be completely, it's going to become ineffectual. It's
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: going to become kind of a puppet government of big tech,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: which it's starting to already. A lot of them lined
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: up behind Trump because they said he's an 80-year-old boomer
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: who's going to be able to sell our ideas to
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: his constituents because he's built kind of a cult of personality.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: And that's why they installed Elon Musk in there. And
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: it just didn't go well because Elon Musk is like
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: such a dork and so unlikable that he went in
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: there and he's like firing park rangers on YouTube thinking
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: he's doing something. And everybody was like kind of immediately
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: disgusted by this. What the fuck's going on? This is
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: like hellish. So they kicked him out and then he
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: got in a little war with the president, the Epstein
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: files or whatever. But make no mistake, that's the Palantir thing,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: is that everybody's going to join the military. We're all
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: going to fight a bunch of wars. We're going to
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: make the country safe, but we're going to do it
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: in a way that takes away most of your liberties,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: all of your personal autonomy and freedom. You're going to be,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: as soon as you're 18 years old, you'll be in
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: the military. You're going to fight who we want you
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: to fight. You're going to do what we want you
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: to do. The jobs available are going to be the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: ones we tell you you qualify for based on, again,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: these models that they're going to build, these predictive models.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: You're not going to have access to the health care,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: the biohacking, the longevity stuff, living forever. That seems to
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: be the new obsession of the rich and wealthy is
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: to live forever. Life's not getting better. It's getting longer.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: No one looks at life from 30 years ago. I mean,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: by the way, some people do, right? You know, I
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: get it. Like people get more rights. Minority groups get
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: more rights in many cases. So I'm not going to be,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not blind to that. But if you look at
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: life in the 90s or the early 2000s, or if
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: you even go back to 2010, no one believes life
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: is better now than it was in 2010. We're in 2026.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: It's 16 years later. No one looks at life now
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: and says it's better. Look at 2010. People are out.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: They're in bars. They're in restaurants. They're going out. They're
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: celebrating things. They have, you know, a sort of a
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: social life that is different. Young people feel more hope
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: about the future. They have a more vibrant, social experience
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: than they're having now they're not they haven't been fully
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: sucked into phones you know the country though divided on
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: many key issues is not in a constant state of
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: war with each other people aren't quite addicted to rage
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: yet social media hasn't programmed our minds we can still
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: watch a movie we can still read a book we
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: still have an attention span People can still go on
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: a date and talk to a woman. They don't have
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: to goon for eight hours in their room and then
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: read about Hitler. So nobody looks at 2010 and goes, whoa,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: that time sucked. Nobody looks at any of these. You
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: didn't have fucking AI videos of fucking cats. None of
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: this is good anymore. None of these advancements make anyone's
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: life better. I mean, what are we talking about? Like,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: what are you, now we have pictures on the food
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: delivery apps? None of this makes anything any better, truly.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: You're more isolated now. You're more alone now. You have
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: less hope than you had. We have, we're seemingly heading
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: towards conflicts with other countries. We're seemingly, we're in multiple wars.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: But none of it seems better. Nobody looks back on
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: 2010 and goes, what a fucking nightmare. Again, 16 years ago.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: It was better after 9-11. You had more fun in
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: this country after 9-11 than you are having right now.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: It's true. You had more fun after 9-11 than you
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: are having right now. Right now is one of the
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: bleakest periods that I've ever lived through. And it's the
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: most technologically advanced time that we have. The things that
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: you can do technologically now are beyond anything that has
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: ever been done in history. But in order to enjoy it,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: you have to be a sociopath. In order to enjoy
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: our time, you have to be a sociopath. You have
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: to be unbothered by seeing a two-year-old that Israel lit
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: on fire running around, and you have to swipe without
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: thinking about it and go right to DoorDash and order
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Thai food. You have to be a sociopath. There's no
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: way to truly enjoy that. You have to be a psychopath.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: You have to wake up and kind of ignore the
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: news and say, I'm starting a business, let's go. And
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying you shouldn't do that because people need
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: to be productive, but we are all being trained to
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: be sociopaths. That's the way, I mean, we've just spent
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: the last two months interviewing a kid who smashes the
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: bones in his face with a hammer, who's on meth.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: And we've spent the last two months interviewing him and going,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: What's your secret? What's your secret? You inject things in
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: yourself every day? Nobody thinks that life is better than
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills 90210. Nobody thinks that life is better than
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: piling a bunch of your friends into a car and
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: going to a school and going to a prom and
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: having fun and going to the beach and taking shrooms.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Nobody thinks this life is better. Nobody prefers living in
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: a cold, white apartment in Miami and snorting Adderall going
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: to the club every night having a bunch of fake
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: friends trying to drive a Lamborghini and filming yourself in
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: it no one thinks that's a preferable life to living
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: in a brick Tudor style house with a dog and
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: a family and a deli you walk to and a
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Christmas tree lighting no one thinks that's better No one
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: honestly thinks any of that is better. No one thinks
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: it's better to sit around front row at Fashion Week
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: or aspire to be one of these whatever, girl boss,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: CEO types. No one thinks that's better than having genuine
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: connections in your life, family, friends, whatever. I'm not saying
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: women shouldn't work. I'm saying nobody thinks it's better The
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: emptiness of climbing the corporate ladder, the emptiness of centering
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: these aspirations as the only things in your life, no
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: one finds this society and culture to be better than
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: it was 20 years ago. Nobody. Find me one motherfucker.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Find me one person who will literally, and not a psychopath,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: not someone selling online classes, okay?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: Not a finance YouTuber. I'm talking about a human fucking being.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Like a real motherfucking person. Tell me one person who
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: thinks this is preferable to the way that we used
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: to live. Tell me one human being that really believes that.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: That really believes that. That thinks it's great that you
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: work till 40 so you can own your first house.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: You work 40 years of your life. You take out
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: a quarter million dollars of loans to go to a school.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: You graduate. You try to find a job. You cobble
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: together a couple of things. You move to a city.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: You live in an apartment with a couple of friends.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: You wander from bar to bar to hook up to
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: hook up to try to connect with a human being.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: You're constantly trying to climb ladders and have more and
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: more money and more and more things. You want more status.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: You want people to recognize you as something. You want
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: to break away from the fucking normie mainstream. You grab
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: a hammer, you're smashed to bones in your face. You
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: want to go to Miami. There's no taxes in Miami.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: You want to live a certain type of life that
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: you see on Instagram and the pressures to do that
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: eventually wear you down. And then you're taking pills to
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: just get up in the morning and walk out of
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: your house. No one thinks that's a better life than
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: the Gilmore Girls life. Living in an old house that
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: you fix up with a dog and some friends and
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: a community and a couple of nice restaurants and a
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: town and some weird family dinners and human experiences and involvement,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: like everything's a global hellscape now. We're all going to
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: live in mega cities or all going to be on
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: apps and everybody's the only thing that people, the only
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: thing that young professionals can talk about now is where
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: they go on vacation because they have no lives. They
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: have no fucking life. You got to go to Thailand.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: We went to Thailand. It was amazing. Can you tell
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: her about Thailand? Mark, tell her about Thailand. He didn't
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: want to go to Thailand. You know, it's a long flight.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: but we went and it was so amazing. The food
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: is amazing. We were worried because I kind of have
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: a sensitive stomach. I'm not really gluten sensitive, but I'm
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: kind of in the middle. I'm one of those things,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: you know, but I'm just telling you, Thailand was amazing,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: but you have to spend two weeks. You have to
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: spend two weeks. You see these temples. It's amazing. Oh
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: my God. I didn't put my camera phone down. I
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: didn't put it down for a minute. I didn't put
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: my phone down for minutes. I was taking all these
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: photos and Mark got mad. He's like, take it in.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I am taking it in, but I also
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: have to record it. So we're not going back to Thailand.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's so far, but we'd actually really love
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: to like, if we struck it big, like if he
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: sold an app or something, I think we'd buy something
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: in Thailand. It would be so amazing. Oh my God.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: It's so, you have to go to, that's all people
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: tell you. All they tell you, they talk, you got
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: to go to Italy, got to go to Thailand. You
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: got to go here. You got to go there. You
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: know why? They don't have lives. And none of these
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: people have lives. They all join zero bond. They join
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: all these clubs in New York city. They sit around,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: they talk about who's rich. They talk about who's richer.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: They talk about who's richest. They don't have any lives.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: They go to Greece. They go here. They go to St. Paul's.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: You know, and then there's all these different versions of
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: that and all these other cities and some of the destinations.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm talking about the high-end ones because I
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: live in New York, whatever, partially sometimes. I'm not always here.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: I'm in Dubai, tax-wise. But there's no life, so that's
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: all they talk about. Go out. Hear what people are
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: talking about. They talk about vacation. I'm telling you. It's
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: like absurd. It's like insane. Go anywhere and listen to
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: what people are talking about. All they talk about is
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: where they want to go. It's all they talk about
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: is where they want to go. None of them have
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: any lives. These people don't have any lives. They should
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: have photos in places they don't live. That's all they
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: have because all they are, they're on a ladder. And
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: nobody thinks that's bad. My grandmother went to like two places.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: She went to the Galapagos Islands. She saw it was
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: a fucking native revolt. She saw some fucking, fuck, not anacondas, iguanas.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: She saw some iguanas. They spit at you on the rocks.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: She went there. You know, she went to the Badlands
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: National Park. She went on a cruise through the Panama Canal.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: She went to Hawaii. She never toured Europe. And when
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: she died at 80, there was 100 people at her funeral.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Because she lived in the same town for 50 years
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: and it made an impact on a bunch of people's lives.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: I don't care that you went to Anguilla, you fucking scumbag.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: You are nothing. You are zero. You have a meaningless life.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: It's unbelievably meaningless. You don't even understand how meaningless it is.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: I couldn't explain to you how meaningless your life is
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: if I had all the days in history. And that's
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: not meant as an insult. I know it sounds like
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: an insult, but it is not. I feel bad for you.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: And it's not your fault either. It is the culture
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: that we have made you believe is essential. No one
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: thinks this is better. No one thinks this is preferable.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Nobody thinks this is good. We are just all doing
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: it because there seems to be nothing else to do.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: And we are being fed like lambs to the slaughter.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: We are going to be fed into the wood chipper.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: And when all these jobs go away, when all your
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: meaningless crap office job goes away and you can't go
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: take a photo of yourself, wherever the hell you're going,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: and you can't take a photo of the fucking restaurant
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: that no one can get into, this whole city that
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: I'm in right now has descended into hell. All of
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: these normies are just running around from the corner store
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: to the fucking 1986 to all these restaurants. And the
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: whole goal of their life is to tell someone they
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: got a table at a restaurant on a Saturday night.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, I couldn't describe how meaningless
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: this has become. In the 90s, when I lived here,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: when I would come in here, I didn't live here,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: I was in Long Island. My parents would bring me
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: in and I would go on auditions as an actor.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: And there were these little black box theaters. under these
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: restaurants in the West Village and people would put on
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: these plays about getting molested and then they would kill themselves.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Do you understand what a great city we lost? Like truly?
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Like actually? There was this woman, my mother's friend, my
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: mother's friend did a play. She wrote a whole play
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: about being molested by her father. And then her father
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: came to see the play and it's about him molesting
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: his daughter. And at the end of the play, My
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: mother said to this man, what did you think of it?
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: And he said, it was a little long. Do you
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: understand the city that we lost? People were trying to
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: survive through art. There was always people trying to make
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: a shitload of money. We get it. It's New York.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: We get it. But, you know, restaurants used to be cool.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry I'm old now. I'm 41 and I'm old.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: And you all say I'm fucking old. And that's okay.
• 1:14:43
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• 1:14:47
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• 1:14:53
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  Speaker 1: and you can't even have a cigarette? It's like, this
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  Speaker 1: there's 15 new injectable drugs they're going to put you on,
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. That's fine. Now there's articles coming out. People
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  Speaker 1: bit of that might be better than whatever the hell
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: it is you're doing. Healthy foods may be linked to
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: lung cancer. People magazine. There you go. There you have it. Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I just read it the other day. Here's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not telling you to smoke. I'm just saying it
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  Speaker 1: is hilarious that Britain's now like, you know what the
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: problem is? We're going to ban smoking. What are they
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  Speaker 1: going to do? Go to bars and go, who was
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: born in 2009? You're going to jail. You're getting a ticket.
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  Speaker 1: You don't care about your fucking health. So I'm just
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: saying Palantir is putting out this manifesto and some of
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: it sounds very reasonable, right? Like all cultures are not
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: created equal. Like Western civilization is good. And like, you know,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: a religious death cult where people believe in witches is bad.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, we get all of that. Okay. But
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  Speaker 1: it's not so much that it's the whole, and we're
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: all going to join the military and we're all going
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: to go to war. And we're going to wrap this
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: in the blanket of Christianity and I mean, they're talking
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: about religious intolerance. They're lighting children on fire in Gaza.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: Their technology is being used for all of this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It's very interesting to talk about religion and then build
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  Speaker 1: death machines. So I'm just saying we're heading to a
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  Speaker 1: place that no one will say is superior to where
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  Speaker 1: we are now. In the same way that no one
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  Speaker 1: says 2026 is superior to 2016. No one is going
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: to say 20, if we keep going the way we're going,
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  Speaker 1: no one is going to say 2036 is superior to 2026.
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  Speaker 1: Even though at that point you could probably talk to
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  Speaker 1: your dead mother. You probably talked to an AI version
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  Speaker 1: of your dead son who died in a car accident. Jimmy,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: is that you? No one's going to think it's better.
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  Speaker 1: No one's going to think when you're heavily drugged, up
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  Speaker 1: in your little box, talking to dead relatives, AI created
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  Speaker 1: dead relatives, that it is better than now. And no
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  Speaker 1: one says that. And that's the problem because there were
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: times when you look back, when people go, fuck thing,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: this is a lot better than it was. But we,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this text seems to have stopped making our
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: lives better. Now, a lot of sociopaths would disagree with
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  Speaker 1: me and I like some of them because the thing
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: about sociopaths is that they're charming. They're a lot of
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: them are very nice. They're fun to get dinner with.
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  Speaker 1: They don't feel it's not their fault. Some of them
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: have evolved to be that way. Some of them are
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  Speaker 1: born that way. It's just what it is. I'm not
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: a doctor and they're fun to have dinner with and
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: they're lovely. And they're actually, a lot of them are
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: good comedy audiences. Some, some not so much. Some are, um,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: But that's basically, you know, because their argument is going
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: to be there's more ways to get rich now than ever.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: And I talk to them and I'll sit down with them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't join these private clubs in New York. I
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  Speaker 1: hate that idea. I go to restaurants. I'll sit down
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  Speaker 1: with people. You go out in the Hamptons. You have
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: a fucking, you know, a baked clam. And they tell you,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: they go, there's more ways to get rich now than ever.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: look at you they go look at you you're on
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: youtube look at you you're in youtube second oyster down
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  Speaker 1: it's nothing in the eye just black eyes but that's
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: not a society more ways to get rich than ever
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: it's not a society that's like not a society it's
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: not a culture it's it's actually nothing it's a casino
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: There's more ways to get rich in a casino than
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of other buildings, right? Like a church or
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: a banquet hall or a restaurant or a hospital. Like
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: there's almost no ways to get rich in any of
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: those buildings. And in a casino, there's like tons of
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: ways to get rich. But you wouldn't necessarily say that
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  Speaker 1: you should get rid of all those other buildings and
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: then just have a big casino, right? And like move
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: the hospital in there and put a wedding chapel in
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: there and just live in the casino. You go, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: The casino is like something we all go to occasionally.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: We have a fun weekend. We go see like a band.
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  Speaker 1: We go to the club. We get drunk. We eat
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: bad food. We smoke some cigarettes. We stay up late.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: We gamble. That's no good. But what everyone's saying now
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: is no, no, no, no, no. We're going to live here.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: in the casino and we're gonna get healthy. We're not
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: gonna eat the bad food and we're not gonna drink.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: And you're like, wait, what? And they're like, no, we're
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: gonna be in the casino sober. And you go, that
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: sounds terrible. And they go, no, no, no, it's actually great.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: We're sober, we're eating healthy and we're in the casino
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna live forever. And you go, but I
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: want out. Like I wanna leave the casino. There is
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: no out. And you go, why? And they go, well,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: everything else has been destroyed by a nuclear war. And
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: that's the economy that we've created. There's more ways to
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: get rich than ever before. But that's not a society.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: That's not a culture. And that's barely aspirational. I guess
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: you just want a lot of money for the sake
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: of having a lot of money. You could buy an
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: apartment on the top of a building or a really
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: big house or a boat. I mean, but it's actually
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: not a cohesive, fulfilling culture on any level. And the
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: people that are driving it right now and telling you
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: how great it is, are the people that want to
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: live 24-7 in the casino, and they don't only want
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: to live there, they want to live forever there. They
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: can get richer and richer and richer. I don't understand
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: the point of that, really. I don't get it. It
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to me. It's not a cohesive, fulfilling,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: cultural standard. for most people. There are lots of risk
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: takers that want to make lots of money, but if
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: we create a world where you can either be really
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: rich if you adopt some AI crypto scam, but like,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: if you don't, then like your communities are going to
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: just turn into fentanyl zombie parades. I don't know. That
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. Nobody wants the life. You know,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: when I grew up, the rich guy, And I understand
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: some of this, by the way, because I meet a
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: lot of these people. I know a lot of these people.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: There's a loneliness, you know, lonely at the top, like, right?
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: Like the rich guy was always portrayed as like, you know,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: not always a Scrooge character, but, you know, kind of a,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: he was set apart, you know, in all the Stephen
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: King novels, the mysterious billionaire who's weirdly controls the town, Mr.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: Burns and the Simpsons, this, that, and the other thing.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: They had the big house. It was kind of empty,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: you know, even Batman, the Bruce Wayne, you know, he's
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: doing good, whatever, you know, I'm pro Batman, but like
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: there was a weirdness to his life. It was like
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: an odd, it was like a weirdness to being like
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: super rich. There is. Look at these people. Altman, Bezos.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, are they human? Does he look human? Like
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: Bezos and Lauren Sanchez? They're like Michael Dell. Get Michael
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: Dell and his wife up right now. Shout out to
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: Michael Dell, friend of the show. Get Michael Dell and
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: the wife. This is super rich. Get them up. Get
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: that photo to the left. Make it big. Make it big.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: Make it big here. Get them big as you can.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: This is the rich. This is the super rich. You know,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, her eyes just go right through you, don't they?
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, her eyes go right through you. I mean,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: that is. All right, take it off. I'm actually starting
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: to get uncomfortable. But what I mean by that is, like,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: the idea when I grew up was not to be, like,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: loaded and rich. Like, I'm happy I have a lot
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: of money. I love money. I tell people all the
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: time it's great to have money. It's great to be
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: able to help people with money, and it's great to
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: be able to drive nice cars and have nice things
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: and have nice houses. And I'm never going to deny that.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: I get it. But this idea that that's, like, the
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: only thing is crazy. It's psychotic. And I know a
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: lot of people that... are incredibly happy, deeply fulfilled human
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: beings that are not wealthy. And when I grew up again,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: it was the, the goal was not to have like
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: inordinate amounts of money. I was, I was like broke
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: for like 15 years doing standup, like doing comedy, like,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe like 12, 13 years, I started to
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: make money like 13 years in a comedy. Like, so
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: this idea that, and I was, there was some of
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: the happiest times in my life. So the idea that
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: we've created a culture where people only find hope on
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: the very high end and it's such a status driven
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: culture and tech has made that, it has greatly enhanced
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: that because it has showcased all of these things to
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: the world as, as universal goods. Like this is a
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: universal good. Um, That was not the way we grew up.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: We grew up with the idea that to be solidly
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: middle class and live in a community where you knew
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: and respected people and you raised children there and those
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: people respected you and you took pride in that community
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: and there were cool things in your community and people
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: would fight and tease each other. It's like, you know,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: our thing's better than your thing and da-da-da-da-da. And all
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: the shows we watched kind of confirmed that that was
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: the American way of life. And the American way of
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: life is not like a huge... you know, like Miami-based
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: crypto AI casino roulette wheel. But that's what it is now.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: And Palantir are telling you that. They're going, listen, soft
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: power ain't going to work. We've lost that. You know,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of the people that come to this country
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: and visit it, they go around, they go, what the
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: hell's happening? So hard power is all that's left. Drones...
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: You know, a couple of killer robots. Some drones, some
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: killer robots. And keep your mouth shut. And join the military.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: And we'll fight who we want to fight. Isn't it
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: fun to say join the military? I mean, there's no
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: reason where... No one's even explained why we're in the
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: Iran war. They don't care. Palinzer goes, join the fucking military.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: What are you going to fuck? Shut up. And no one...
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: No one... feels better today than they did 15 years ago.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: And yet all of this tech is here. So how
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: are we going to feel in 10 years? How are
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: we going to feel with predictive crime models? What's dating
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: like in 10 years when you're just doing AI analysis
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: or you're just dating the chat bot? Why even spend
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: the time to do the AI analysis on the date? Like,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: What does all that look like? And I'm not, again,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not a Luddite. So I make my living on
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: the internet. I'm very happy I do. And there's no
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: editors and there's nobody who tells me what to say. But,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: and that's not, you know, that's new in history. So
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And I appreciate technology. But you do
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: have to wonder if there is a point where you
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: do cross a certain threshold and we're probably there already.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know. We're like, we no longer feel that
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: any of this is making our life better. Happier. happier
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: than they did in 2010 by the way in the
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: midst of a financial collapse 2008 2009 2010 these these
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: were not easy times it was like a financial crisis
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: it was a global banking crisis And people were happier
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: than they are now. Interesting. This is awkward. Now, again,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: I have to earn a living from the show, so
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think this negates the episode I just did. Truly.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: Tim Dillon Show is sponsored by Palantir. Palantir has America's
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: best interests at heart. Its advanced weapons technologies will usher
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: in the new. Well, you get it.