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Stanley Cup Playoffs Round 3 Update... Are the Habs cooked? | Fantasy Hockey Podcast · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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Today, once again, Jakey is still depressed from how last
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Now he's he's caught up with some work stuff.
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So we're holding down the Fort while he's away.
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But yeah, I mean, listen, we're recording this on Tuesday, the
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day after the Habs, Habs, Carolina, game three so far.
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Energy seemed low. You're welcome.
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For everybody that was that was upset that we were being too,
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about Vegas, Colorado, because that's a big one.
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And we're obviously going to talk about the haves and
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Carolina and we're going to be at an emotional level of
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probably like a three out of 10. OK, on on a scale of 1 to 10,
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how are you feeling, Josh? I mean, I don't wanna, I wanna
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come in with some strong energy for, for our listeners, but if
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I'm being honest, I'm at like a 0.
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The highs are high and the lows are low.
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Yeah, I mean, you guys all know from watching me go through this
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fantasy season that I have 0 emotional regulation and this is
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1 area when it comes to hockey, both fantasy hockey.
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And you know, for years when the haves were really bad in
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rebuilding, I kind of just closed my, you know, my heart to
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them off of it. I was like, I know we're
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rebuilding. I don't, you know, I'm not going
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to worry about them losing whatever, you know.
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But now that they're good again and they're in the conference
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finals, it just hurts so bad. I'm trying to rationalize.
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OK, so we're gonna talk about the web series first, or we talk
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about Colorado first. What do you want to do?
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Let's talk about the house first.
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that. But now that that's out of the
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way, um, listen these OK, how I'm trying to rationalize this
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hab series. So first of all, if you haven't
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been paying attention, the haves are losing the series 21.
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We have lost Game 2 and game 3 back-to-back in overtime.
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So it's been pretty depressing because I feel like we've been
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dominated in both games. It feels like obviously, like we
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can't shoot on goal for some reason, even though Freddie
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Anderson is the worst goalie in the entire existence.
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But we're still in these games and we're playing tough and I
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feel like we're dangerous even though not shots on goal.
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We feel dangerous. We feel we can score, but it's
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just not coming through. But I'm trying to rationalize it
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with we had halves in seven, right?
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So they were. That means we're gonna lose 3
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games. It also means that, you know,
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Carolina is a great team. They've made it this far.
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They make it as far every year. Like it was not going to be
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easy. So that's how I'm thinking about
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things to make these losses feel less bad.
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But it's just after you play so many minutes and you go into
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overtime and you lose it back-to-back.
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It's just it's things. It's right in the heart.
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Yeah, it's tough because obviously overtime is one goal
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decides all right, and every single game is the equivalent of
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a four point game on steroids. Yeah, right.
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So it's one goal is the difference between being up to 0
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in the series versus 11. Then it's the difference being
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up to 1 Series versus down to 1, like 2.
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Two goals go different, 2 bounces go different.
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We're up 3, nothing in this series.
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So it's it definitely both those games, if we had would have been
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undeserved. Carolina, I think was definitely
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the better team in both. It is frustrating.
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Then we we deserved. I don't know if I'm being just a
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little bit too much of A Homer, but I feel like I wouldn't take
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it in third period. I think we were playing, really.
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Well I would say, I would say like I would still give the edge
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to Carolina, but I wouldn't say it was about his Game 2.
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Like if we had won I wouldn't have felt like oh that was an
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undeserved win. I would have been like OK maybe
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we got a bit lucky there but we still played some decent hockey.
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Game two would have been a complete stolen win if we want
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that because Carolina dominated. It is frustrating seeing 2
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almost identical games because you just think to yourself the
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coach is not making the correct assessments.
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Yeah, you know, you have obviously he's also a super
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young coach in the league, right?
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So we talk about all the experience being gained for the
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players and all that stuff, but it all applies to to San Louis
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as well. And you obviously have Rod,
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who's been one of the longest tenured coaches, has made the
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conference finals the past like 4 years in a row and he just has
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his system and he clearly figured out how to make
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adjustments after game one and we just haven't made adjustments
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after Game 2. So hopefully game 4 is a
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different story. It's also been just super
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frustrating, the housing awful at home.
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There's so much talk about the Bell Centre being such an
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amazing place to go watch a game, to go play, the energy and
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all that. That's all true, but the heads
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are not using it at all to their advantage.
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If anything it feels like they're being disadvantaged at
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home and I don't even know why. And I mean in my mind that comes
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down to coaching because the biggest advantage of home ice
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other than the crowd and all that is the last change.
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And so if you're getting, you know the thing with Carolina is
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that they have 4 lines that they trust and could play.
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Like I was, we were watching, you know, watching the game
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yesterday, their fourth line played at least felt like to me,
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they were playing tons of shifts in overtime and the third period
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and our fourth line. Yeah, exactly.
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Because what happened in Game 2 was they played their their
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fourth line in the overtime and then captain gives it away and
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then that leads to a goal against.
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So they obviously can't trust their fourth line when it
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matters most. This series is such a game of
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margins that it always matters most, especially once you get
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mid second period to the rest of the game.
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So you're writing a short bench against a team who's playing
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their full bench and has played half the amount of games that
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you have. They looked gassed in the their
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timeline game. They looked exhausted.
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They were this. I'm so tired of stupid icings,
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the stupid flipping it up in the air.
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The the amount of times they've done it unforced just drives me
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nuts. Every time they have an unforced
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icing or an unforced, just toss it to the other end of the ice
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and the dump and not chase. No wonder you haven't 12 shots
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two games in a row. You're not taking any possession
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of the puck. So it's definitely a frustrating
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watch because I fully agree. Anderson I think is by far the
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worst goalie still in the playoffs.
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I think he's one of the worst goalies who made the playoffs
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and you could see they keep letting in two goals and 12
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shots. That's not good stats.
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Game 1, he let in five goals, right?
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Or four goals in that empty net. But like, he's not a good
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goalie. Dobish is playing out of his GD
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mind right now and they keep hitting him.
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Yeah. First of all, I mean, it's
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ridiculous. I'm so tired of the refs.
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First of all, I actually don't care about the refs not calling
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stuff on the like that happening.
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So you do an interference, whatever.
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It goes both ways. I'm I don't care.
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I know that's playoff hockey. You live with it.
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Obviously they had a big interference, then get called
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and then we had that too many men on the ice and overtime they
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didn't get called, it cancels. Out soft call though, like a
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certain point to call, you have to use your judgment and we
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didn't have any advantage. There was just kind of like a
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broken play that affected the guy that was like.
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Changing realistic like if it's rule book it would be a penalty
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but it's playoffs and they don't call it and that's fine because
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that goes both ways the one thing I really have an issue
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with is there repeatedly series after series it's happening is
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10 but how do you Buffalo tapping East Carolina they just
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run into our goalie and there's zero repercussions the.
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Only time they. Penalty.
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Yeah. And the only time, every time
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that happens, they call a penalty on Carolina.
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Oh, penalty on the Habs, too. They called the same thing
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happened with against Buffalo. You know, either way, they don't
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call anything or they call offsetting penalties.
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Yeah. I'm sorry.
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Since when is it a penalty to defend your goal who just got
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ran? And also, if you look at Jake
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Evans, like he gives them like a little tap on that, yeah, and
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then just kind of like holds him down.
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He wasn't like battering him when he was on the floor.
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So I thought it was like that was gonna get his money at all
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moneys worth getting that roughing penalty.
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Isolated incident after the whistle?
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Sure, call that a penalty. But when the guy runs into your
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goalie, you have to expect that a player's gonna go and make him
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like pay the price. That's just hockey.
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So anyways, I find that very frustrating, but I'm not willing
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to really place any blame on the refs for our loss.
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I think that have just didn't play well enough.
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That's that's kind of where I'm at.
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And I'm just, it's just frustrating games.
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And that's what Hurricanes do so well, where they excel at.
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It's not it goes both ways. Not just the haves not playing
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well enough. the Hurricanes are playing their game.
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There's a reason that's what they do.
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They let other teams only get 12 shots and they get like 30-5
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shots and they win by one goal because they take a lot of
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perimeter shots, a lot of low danger shots.
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So it always looks worse than it is, but at the same time it is
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bad because no shots on goal means you can't score.
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So it's we're in a kind of interesting spot at this point
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this year. He's obviously I don't know
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about you, but in my mind, if we lose the next game, it's over.
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There's no way we're winning three in a row.
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So I think pretty much next game is our Game 7.
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So we'll see what happens. If they can get a win at the
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Bell Centre, which seems impossible these playoffs, it's
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hard not to fall into the trap of oh, we lost a game, we lost
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two games straight, We're never going to win a game again this
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year. Same thing as after we won,
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we're never going to lose a game again.
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So we talk about that a lot. It's hard to get out of that
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mentality, but I still think, you know, fact is 2 games where
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I think Hurricanes played their exact style of hockey and the
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haves fed into exactly what the Hurricanes wanted to do and both
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teams that had to go to overtime.
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So when the house play our style, we went 6252 when they
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played their style, they win in overtime.
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We can steal some of these games.
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Hopefully we can get one or two games that are our style where
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we don't have to steal it, but I think it's going to sound we
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have to make adjustments. I'm going to listen.
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I have a lot to say. I think first of all, I don't
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want to whine about the refs because I think that's just why
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like whiny baby behavior. You can even say that.
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But I think that the Dobesh call, like the four on four
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after them ramming into Dobesh, I think is unacceptable.
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And I also think the lack of a call on the Lynn Hudson tripping
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near the end of the game as well where that was like that clear.
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The guy slams his stick into his shins, he falls over, he has the
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puck. Like I think that's a clear
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tripping. Even if you're trying not to
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make calls, I feel you can't not call that one because it's
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blatant. Those I think were were really
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missed calls. But like you said, it goes both
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ways. There's gonna be calls that that
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don't get called on both sides, both sides of the ice.
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But those I thought were like really impactful.
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And also, I do want to say that I, I think we need to do
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something to change like either the lines or get something going
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because first of all, zone entries are impossible.
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Carolina is such a good team at, at stopping single, single
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person's own entries are like almost impossible to do.
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And I feel like it's three games that we're trying to do them and
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maybe game one kind of work because we cut them off guard
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game one, the pace of play and everything like that.
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Game 2, they've been shut down. So something needs to happen
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where we have like different tactics going into those plays.
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And the last game I thought fourth line was awful, texture
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awful, Dog looked awful. They were invisible.
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Didn't hear Josh Anderson's name once last name, even though two
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games prior he was the hero of that game.
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Right, But the killer has been the turnovers.
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And I feel like the turnovers, we saw it in game two, we lost
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because we thought we had cleared the puck out.
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So guys went for a change and then we didn't actually get the
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fuck out. And then we get we give them
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automan rush. That was and that happened again
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in Game 3. Not the change, but it's just
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the turnovers where you have to clearly get it out by some way.
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First of all, you gotta try to avoid the icing.
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But like just getting. Steaks I've ever seen.
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First thing I think it comes with the fact that we're like
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the thing that the hubs have been doing is that like Carolina
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is playing a great game, super solid and they're like barely
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edging out these wins, right? Because what we're we have like
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the pressure and the perseverance to like place
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grabby hockey and out effort the opponents.
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But when we have 1516 games under our belt and they've got
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eight games under their belt, at a certain point we're losing our
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legs and and getting through through sheer force and power
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and hardship. And you know, the perseverance
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of like out offering your opponent.
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If you don't got the energy to do that anymore, you're gonna
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make sloppy mistakes and the other team is just gonna be able
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to capitalize on them. And that's what I feel has cost
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as these last two games. 100 percent, 100%.
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Dobish is playing out of his mind.
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It really feels like the only way they're getting them by him
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is when we make these massive mistakes.
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And honestly, we've been making more mistakes than goals they've
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been scoring. He's been bailing us out a
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decent amount and keeping us in. 1000%.
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And it's just a waste where the way we're wasting the he's
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keeping us in them and then we're wasting the opportunity.
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Like, yeah, obviously the Game 2 capping in, not dumping it in.
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Like that's a rookie mistake. You dump it, you just get it in
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deep, make the change. And that cost us the game.
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Last game. Hudson, with that terrible
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giveaway. I don't even know what he was
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thinking. I mean, like you said, he was
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gassed, right? And he had the puck, it feels
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like the whole game, right? So at certain point you're bound
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to make some mistakes. But he shouldn't have to need to
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have to put the whole game like somebody's got to be able to
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help him or, you know, take some of the load off.
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Yeah. So it was a look, it's we're in
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a rough spot. I don't think it's going to be
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easy. I don't think we're out of it
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yet. I do I will say if we lose the
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next one I have 0 faith I. Don't think it's over.
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I don't know if it's just I think.
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We're down 31. We can.
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We can win 3. Straight, I still think we have
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a chance to win because what happens then we go to Carolina,
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we can win away from home, we come back to the Bell Centre,
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everything on the line, I'm going to give us at least a
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chance to win that game. And then game seven, who knows
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what can happen in game seven. That's how that's how I'm
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rationalizing it. I just don't think we're out in
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five, like I think we're winning either the next one or games or
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games. I'm not saying I'm not saying if
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they win the next one that will lose in five.
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I'm saying if they win the next one, there's zero.
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Chance I'm not saying the other in our favor, but I'm not losing
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complete hope that like we can't win three in a row we've done it
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before in the past when with this group even though.
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We haven't had lessons in a row, like once in a series this
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playoffs I think other than now have we won two games in a row?
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We within a series, No. Yeah, there you go.
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We won the only time. That's Buffalo first game
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against Carolina. We haven't won two games in a
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row. Yeah, like once in a series.
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So how are we supposed to win three games in a row centre?
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Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's what they do in
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the coach does when he's giving hostages before every game.
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Yeah, because you can't think that far ahead.
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But I'm just saying they should be treating this next game as if
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it was Game 7. And yeah, I mean, again, you
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ideally, if you're the coach trying to get them to treat
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every game like it's a Game 7, but it's just a mentality thing.
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But they're going to have to play their best hockey.
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I think that's that's what it comes down to.
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If they play their best, they can hang with Carolina.
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The last two games have not been their best.
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And Carolina. We're still hanging with them
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though. Yeah, but.
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That's encouraging. Like, these games are such close
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margins, and we've been playing legitimately bad.
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Yeah. So it's like, imagine we start
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playing average or good. Like you feel like we'd have a
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better shot. To be fair, Carolina is making
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us play bad. So it's it goes hand in hand and
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it's not. It's if we can play well, I feel
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great, but it's not a guaranteed right because of Carolina style.
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I think Caroline's forecheck is super aggressive.
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That has all the amount of times the haves have complete control
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of the puck in their own zone. And then Caroline comes in the
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four track, they make one pass too many, they bobble it and all
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of a sudden it's his own session for Carolina.
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It's so frustrating to see. And what made us so good in game
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one was that they had that aggressive forecheck and we were
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able to make these crisp passes and kind of get out of it.
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And that led to a lot of breakaways, 2 on ones, on man
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rushes. And we haven't seen that in game
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two and three. They completely killed the
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neutral zone. They've jammed it up.
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We can't get it in. And they need to make an
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adjustment. And look, I'm not I'm not the
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coach of the haves. I don't know what the adjustment
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is that needs to be made, but that's what they get paid for.
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So I'm hoping to see not the exact same thing again in terms
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of roster. I know that every single time on
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the on the have subreddit, every single time they.
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Have gallery? Pulgarin put in jacket.
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You know, do you think any of that would like change anything
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or do you think it's all the same?
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I think maybe Jackie, because they've been very physical with
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us. Like last game is the first time
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that I actually generally noticed it, that I'm paying
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attention to all the players and everybody is making extra effort
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to finish their checks and be extra physical.
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Even though the puck is like gone.
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People are finishing their checks hard and people are
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getting a little nasty with it, doing a little bit of the the
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the low key physical stuff too, like the little bit of the cross
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checks on the side where you can get away with a little bit.
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Yeah, I'm noticing a lot of that.
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And then going into Dobesh, like if Jackie is there to punch
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somebody in the head, then maybe it's a different story.
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The thing is trouble. I feel like it's valuable and
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like it gives a a piece that you can trust as your third pair to
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give your other pairs A breather.
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Whereas when the going gets tough, Jackass not gonna see the
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ice, he's too much of A liability there.
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So it's really, really tough. But I don't know, I think that's
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more valuable. I'd be willing to try that more
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than just putting Gallagher into the lineup because I feel like
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Gallagher has just does not have the juice.
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And yeah, he scored a goal last time we put him in, but I feel
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like that's, you can't rely on that, you know, like like 7
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minutes to score one goal. Any, any merit to the thought of
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putting Jackie on like the fourth line and leaving Strubel
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in and taking out like the Leno? And then, you know, then if
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Jack, I only place his 5-6 minutes a game, it's not as
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impactful because you still have three fold pairings.
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I mean, they're not gonna do it, but that's just kind of like a
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thought. The thing is, I hate that the
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way to get out of the line of. 100% yeah that's it so at the
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end of the day, it's hard to bring in a guy who you know is
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gonna get 6 minutes, especially if these games are going to
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overtime, especially because everyone so gassed like you
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looked out you saw how tired they were you thought it was the
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shortened bench. You need guys that you can trust
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and look it's an easy fix for the future, right?
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It's not hard to find 4th liners that you can trust.
18:17
Look, it's. It's not even really good these
18:20
playoffs. It's just these last few games
18:22
they've been invisible and you're not both the bank on your
18:24
fourth line being the one that's getting carried the team either,
18:26
right? So I think, I think the issue is
18:28
not that they've been invisible. I think the issue is that
18:29
they've been noticeably bad. Yeah, they they, they're like.
18:32
Mine even negative. Four or five, yeah, that's it.
18:34
They cost us a ton of goals. That's when it if they're just
18:37
going out there and netting 0, like they're not scoring but
18:40
they're getting scored games, then you would have to shorten
18:42
the bench. But if it's every time these
18:44
guys go out there, there's a big offensive zone chance for the
18:47
opponent they score goals against, that's when the bench
18:49
has shortened because you're just costing us the game.
18:52
So yeah, it's tough. Maybe it's like you said, they
18:54
need to reshuffle some of the lines a bit to get to a point
18:57
where they can trust all four of them.
18:59
But the longer these playoffs go, it's just, especially this
19:02
series, it just looks like tiredness is becoming an issue.
19:05
And we talked about before the series, we were like, how
19:07
important is this break versus the knob break?
19:09
And I guess we're seeing it, right?
19:11
We're seeing it live right in front of us.
19:12
And it's kind of a lot of people kind of predicted this.
19:14
They said game one, Montreal's going to come in and play well
19:17
because they have the momentum, whatever.
19:19
But as the series goes on, Carolina's rest is gonna pay
19:21
off. So we'll see what happens.
19:23
I'm not counting us out just yet, but I'm I'm not feeling
19:27
confident. At all.
19:28
Count us out tomorrow, is what you're saying.
19:30
If they lose, yeah, I'll count us out.
19:32
I'm still gonna hope, but I'll count us out.
19:35
I don't think it's over, but I definitely think these last two
19:38
games, I don't know, I feel like we have a lot more potential
19:41
that we're not seeing. And if this is what it looks
19:43
like when we're playing really bad, then I'm encouraged because
19:45
like we could have easily stolen one of the last two games,
19:48
right? And then we would have said
19:49
we're winning the Series 21 and we feel really good because we
19:53
also feel we still have potential in the tank.
19:55
So I think it just depends on how the games they would
19:58
obviously like you're going to be more positive or negative
20:01
depending on how it went. And right now it's negative,
20:03
right? So hopefully this next game goes
20:05
well and we're able to have a more positive spin on it.
20:07
But I do think that the fatigue is the big the big issue.
20:12
Yeah, it's going to be tough. It's going to be tough.
20:13
And Dobesh, honestly, like I was a little worried that he got
20:16
hurt because you saw he had a little thing on the shoulder.
20:18
But he looks, he looks OK, but he's just been insane, like
20:22
unreal. It's giving like Con Smith wise
20:24
without like without even making the finals or like losing it,
20:28
losing the Stanley Cup finals or something.
20:30
Yeah, yeah. Now he's playing unbelievably
20:33
and I just hope that this is not a one time fluke.
20:36
You know, it's not like a situation where you had that
20:39
unreal playoff run, but then was kind of a career backup for the
20:41
rest of his his time. It would be nice if this is the
20:44
real deal. So I mean, we'll see.
20:46
The good news is that like he's not putting a carry price on the
20:50
bench, right? It's not like a multiples coming
20:52
back or Jacob Fowler like he's potentially future, but he's not
20:55
going to necessarily give the better run for his money next
20:58
year, maybe in a few. Years.
20:59
Yeah, yeah, Dobesh is going to get the run time or the room to
21:02
show what he can do, but we'll see.
21:05
We'll see what happens. But look, not looking to next
21:08
season yet. We're still in it and we'll see
21:10
what happens. Looking to next season just a
21:12
little bit. Let's talk a little bit full
21:14
fantasy 4 these guys in this in this season.
21:17
Like how do you how do you feel about the fantasy players on
21:19
this team? Because it feels like if
21:20
Carolina can do this, are you more interested in their
21:23
players? Like if they realistically make
21:25
it to the Stanley Cup finals and potentially even win the Stanley
21:27
Cup this year? Right.
21:28
That's definitely the range of outcomes are an excellent team.
21:31
Are we going to be more in on the the Ohos, the stretching,
21:33
the calves, the Jarvis is the gossipers?
21:37
I think that Jarvis is always a great bet for fantasy, so Jarvis
21:42
I would take a ho I think as well.
21:44
Jarvis and Aho are the 2 main guys that I think could avoid
21:48
whatever nonsense Rod does stretching Kov.
21:52
I think that he had a really solid year actually after
21:54
turning things around, so I think he's going to get drafted
21:56
higher than I would want to take him.
21:58
Like I. Think 5-6 probably.
22:00
He always just goes around in that range.
22:01
Yeah, I'm not willing to take him there.
22:03
I took him at I think 6 last year.
22:05
He would have paid dividends if you took him there this year if
22:08
you didn't hold them for like the first two months of the
22:10
season or. Month, I mean, he look, he
22:12
worked out it was, it was a solid pick, but just that entire
22:15
first month where he did nothing right and then he became a
22:17
beast. I'm just there's other guys I
22:19
could take in the sixth round that aren't gonna give me that
22:21
headache. No, I'll take I'll take Jarvis
22:24
Goss, this beer. I like late rounds.
22:26
If I mean, I feel like he's gonna be picked earlier because
22:29
of the last two years, but he's also always injured, so I'm not
22:32
dying to grab him unless I can get him late.
22:34
So and then there's pretty much no one else I'd be interested in
22:37
having on Carolina. So now whatever they do in the
22:39
playoffs, even if they go all the way, doesn't change how I
22:41
view them for for next year in fantasy.
22:44
I mean, it doesn't really change anything, right?
22:47
Like with any team, not just Carolina, those, I mean, the
22:49
only time playoff performance to me changes something is if like
22:52
a rookie oops off. Like Wyatt Johnston had that
22:54
unreal playoffs, right? And it was like, OK, this guy's
22:56
the real deal, maybe we need to pay attention to him next year,
22:58
stuff like that. But in terms of a team's players
23:01
just playing well or whatever and making it far, that doesn't
23:03
really affect fantasy to me next year.
23:05
Yeah, I feel like we have to avoid falling into that trap
23:08
where, I mean, we saw this last year when we looked at like,
23:11
let's say, what's that climate in the playoffs where he was
23:13
like averaging five hits a game and you're like, Oh my God, is
23:16
he like a new power forward that's really good to be like a
23:18
double, double or something like that.
23:19
And then the first game comes back, he drops 9 and then
23:22
doesn't hit ever again, right? 11 hits I think.
23:24
Whatever it was, so it was, it was just an insane amount that
23:28
he just did, not you. Know ever live up to yeah.
23:31
And I think we see it with a lot of these defensemen and stuff
23:33
too, like they're averaging so many blocks.
23:34
I think Hudson had like 5 blocks last game, something like that.
23:37
And this is not sustainable. It's just like in a vacuum, in
23:40
the playoffs, it makes sense because these guys are just
23:42
putting everything on the line. But on an 82 game season, like
23:45
this is just not part of their game.
23:46
So you have to just be careful what you take away from it.
23:49
But it's definitely encouraging when you see somebody kind of
23:51
like put their mark on their team or take a step up.
23:53
Like I think the Anaheim guys that this year, like maybe next
23:56
year, I think they all get dropped a little higher for what
23:59
they did and how they showed it on in the playoffs.
24:03
But I think the Habs guys will get higher draft capital next
24:06
season because what they were able to produce this season, you
24:08
know, they're 100 points for Suzuki and. 50 goals for coffee.
24:13
I think next year that definitely bumps up their stock
24:16
a little bit and honestly, I think he's gonna be top five
24:18
defensemen. Yeah, I think, I think Suzuki
24:21
gets drafted round two. I think Hudson gets drafted
24:24
round 3, maybe being Cofield, get drafted around 5, something
24:28
like that. That's kind of where I see those
24:30
guys. Lefkofsky probably around 7:00.
24:32
I I think like that's, that's pretty crazy.
24:35
Horse in the tub. Dobesh is gonna get drafted
24:38
highly. Like, the hubs are gonna be a
24:40
team that's gonna be fighting for like top five in the NHL.
24:42
There were six this year. And there's a chance that Dobesh
24:45
is like a full time starter. I mean, it's not going to be
24:47
multiple, is not going to take any starts.
24:48
He's not going to be on the team next year.
24:50
I'd be surprised. 85 stars next season.
24:53
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So like, I think that that's
24:56
gonna be another high pick. So yeah, I think a lot of good
24:59
assets on the haves for the first time in my my fantasy
25:01
career. So it'll be it'll be interesting
25:04
to see, honestly, now that they're actually good, I don't
25:07
mind taking them early and then I can double up on enjoying
25:10
watching the games even more. So we'll see.
25:12
The thing is, in our leagues with all the Habs fans, it's
25:14
just going to be tough to actually get them because
25:16
everybody, now that they're worth it, everybody's I think
25:18
going to raise the price even more to try to get one on their
25:20
roster. Well, normally I'd agree, but in
25:22
our Bangor management league it's not going to be all House
25:24
is true from all over the place we're gonna be.
25:26
They only have spans so and I know you, you and Jake aren't
25:29
gonna reach on guys, although Cheeky might reach Onslaught.
25:31
But Vicky will force her to reach out to somebody.
25:33
That's true. That's true, that's true.
25:35
But yeah, it might be my first chance to actually get some
25:38
haves. Guys on my team I've never had,
25:39
only ever had, other than I picked Slaugh last year and it
25:42
was a mistake. Actually took him too early.
25:44
Other than I think I've ever had a house fire on my fantasy team,
25:46
which is kind of crazy. I'm trying to think, yeah, I
25:49
guess, I guess. I don't think I've ever had a
25:52
Habs. Yeah, they always get taken so
25:53
early in our leagues. Yeah, alright.
25:56
Should we move to the Western Conference?
25:58
Because that's also crazy. I want to play bug the last
26:02
episode where I said when you told me to make my bracket, I
26:06
had the final Vegas Habs, even though I said Colorado 7.
26:11
I I did actually both things I said Colorado and seven when we
26:15
were first making our predictions and then when we
26:17
when you asked me to make my bracket after for the remaining
26:19
things I said Vegas and Montreal.
26:21
OK, well listen, I think this is up.
26:24
Split it. Yeah, thing is up 3 nothing
26:26
series right now, just as we all expected and it's I think
26:31
tonight's game four. I think they're sleeping.
26:33
Mckinnon's injured. He's Mckinnon's playing, but
26:35
he's definitely injured. The chicken might be out.
26:37
My cars playing injured. It's a stone came back.
26:41
It's kind of just and Vegas is just out playing them in every
26:44
way. Look, This is why I don't think
26:47
playoffs. Oh, yeah, no, no, it's not
26:49
because of excuses. It's Vegas deserves it.
26:52
I'm more just saying that's even more reasonable.
26:54
I think they're sweeping it tonight, like obviously winning
26:56
the series, but like, you know, do you give Colorado a gamer
26:59
here there? No, I think I think it's done
27:01
after tonight. After they went up 30 last game
27:04
and then choked it crazy I think.
27:07
I think it's just hard to mentally come back from that.
27:09
Did you see that like the video of just McKinnon on the bench
27:13
after they scored the 4th? He's just like, looks like.
27:15
Looking into. This eyes and he's like, yeah.
27:18
And it's just yeah, they're broken.
27:20
They're done. Everyone online is saying, oh,
27:23
Bednar is getting fired and I'm like, I don't think he's getting
27:25
fired for one bad playoff series, especially made the
27:27
conference finals. But like it's this is a massive
27:31
and no disrespect to Vegas, but this is a massive choke.
27:34
Losing to Vegas wouldn't be a massive choke.
27:36
Getting swept by Vegas is a massive choke, especially as
27:40
just the unbelievable season they've had and unbelievable
27:42
playoffs they've had. And I don't even care about the
27:45
LA basically to me isn't even a playoff team, right?
27:47
I could have slept early myself, but.
27:49
Every episode you gotta find a way to Doug on LA.
27:52
I love it though. But Minnesota was, in my mind,
27:56
probably the second Best Western team.
27:58
Yeah. And Colorado beat them easily.
28:00
So in my mind, that was the real test.
28:01
I was like, OK, if they can do that to Minnesota, I don't see
28:03
anyone stopping them. And Vegas comes in and they had
28:06
to go to six versus Anaheim. They had to go to six versus
28:09
Utah. So I didn't think they were that
28:11
amazing. And now they're just killing
28:13
Colorado. It's a it's kind of crazy.
28:16
What do you think is going on here?
28:19
I mean, first of all, you know, I was trying.
28:21
I was high on Minnesota, first of all.
28:23
Yeah. And I think when you put it back
28:25
into perspective and we talked about this, but like the
28:28
Colorado Avalanche beat and Minnesota Wild team with one
28:30
centre. So you put it that way, it kind
28:33
of puts things more in perspective.
28:36
But to credit them, obviously, like they they played a great
28:39
series, but at the end of the day, like what's happening now,
28:42
I think I knew was gonna be a close series that did not expect
28:45
this at all. Like who, who could have
28:46
predicted this? I hate that people are just
28:49
saying, oh, they lost because my car was injured or whatever.
28:51
If if one player outside of the lineup really, really affects
28:55
everything, I think it's I should hear you, but I don't.
29:00
Can you hear me now? Yeah, I hear you now.
29:03
Sorry about that. Oh my God.
29:05
Did you hit something by accident or just changed like it
29:06
did to me? No, I just did what it did to.
29:08
You lovely. Well, listen, I'm gonna do a lot
29:12
of magic editing here, but apologies to the viewers if you
29:18
can notice any technical difficulties.
29:22
We we've been struggling with some camera settings, but we're
29:25
back now. And you were saying if one
29:28
player, Yeah, you were saying about like the macar excuse?
29:31
That's that's the thing I hate when it comes to these playoffs.
29:34
It's easy to extrapolate the importance of one player and
29:37
whatnot, but it's a team game and you're building a roster to
29:40
win the Stanley Cup and you're playing so many games that
29:44
there's bound to be guys playing hurt.
29:47
Everybody knows, everybody's dealing with something.
29:49
If losing 1 player in your lineup completely, you know,
29:54
takes away all your chances, then I don't think you deserve
29:57
to win in the 1st place, right? Like they've played without
30:00
Makar in the past. They've still been solid.
30:02
Vegas didn't have Mark Stone for their first two games and that's
30:05
arguably one of their best players, right?
30:07
So it goes both ways. And I don't like the comments
30:11
that Bend are made in the press about Makar either.
30:13
He kind of threw him under the bus like, oh, kill play when
30:16
he's ready to play. Like only he knows when.
30:17
It kind of felt like he was being like, dude, we need you.
30:20
Like just suck it up type of thing.
30:23
And I feel like I killed my car is an exceptional player,
30:26
arguably the best defenseman in the league for I don't know how
30:28
many years at this point. But if you're throwing him under
30:31
the bus now, I'm not trying to antagonize this dude, right?
30:34
Like he knows he's got to play. I don't think you got to tell
30:38
them. So I didn't really like those
30:40
comments. And hopefully it doesn't come to
30:42
bite them in the in the behind in the off season or anything
30:44
like that in the future, but all that.
30:47
Means is that maybe there's some merit to all the bed and are
30:50
getting fired comments. I mean, if my car is like, I
30:53
don't wanna play for this dude anymore.
30:54
Like he's getting, he's getting the sack, the boot ASAP, right?
30:57
Like there's no way they're choosing Bednarova Makar.
31:01
Over the coach. I, It's always contextual, but
31:08
no, I, I think this Colorado, I feel like they're getting
31:12
outplayed and they're getting out disciplined.
31:14
And I think Vegas is just a team that we saw in their previous
31:17
cup runs when they're in the playoffs.
31:19
This team is just so perseverant and it feels like nothing shakes
31:21
them. No matter how many goals they're
31:23
down, no matter how like the bad the series is going, it feels
31:27
like they're always able to like buckle up and put it together on
31:30
the ice when they need to. And I think that's what's
31:33
happening and Mitch Marner is playing out of his mind.
31:35
So many, so many guys are just coming through like is finally
31:38
starting to wake up a little bit and he's been invisible for like
31:40
these entire playoffs. So I just think when they're
31:43
getting this production from the bottom part of their roster and
31:46
like their star players and Nathan McKinnon, I killed my car
31:50
and your other studs are not able to deliver, It's really
31:52
hard to win a playoff series. So I think Vegas just showing
31:56
them what it looks like to have a team that everybody's
31:58
contributing and you get above average goaltending from Carter
32:01
Hart randomly in the playoffs and there you go, you're up 30
32:05
against Colorado. Yeah, it's crazy.
32:07
It's crazy that if Vegas wins the Cup, Mitch Marner is getting
32:12
the cosmic like. Honestly I will be rooting for
32:16
that just because of how much it will piss off Toronto fans or
32:18
something of separate faction of Toronto fans that are like
32:23
Mitch. Martin years.
32:24
It's just it's insane this storyline that that just kind of
32:29
came out of nowhere. But yeah, I think I think you
32:32
look at Vegas roster and it's an incredible roster, right?
32:36
Like. We knew that though.
32:37
Yeah, honestly, I don't know. I thought Colorado was
32:41
unstoppable. I didn't think Vegas was gonna
32:44
roll over. I had Colorado in six and I
32:45
would have believed Colorado in seven.
32:47
Two. Yeah, I definitely didn't have
32:48
Vegas in four. I don't think so.
32:50
I I mean, even the biggest diehard Vegas fan, there's no
32:54
way they had Vegas in four. No, I think this is just a shock
32:57
to everyone. And it's very impressive what
33:01
Vegas has been doing there. Like you said, getting
33:03
contributions from all across the lineup.
33:05
They're mean, Brett. Howard, how does the goat?
33:09
It's crazy all these shorties and then look, yeah, sure,
33:13
McKinnon got injured towards the end of last game, but what about
33:15
game one and Game 2? Macy's back game, last game and
33:18
and they come back from Game 2 or just last game?
33:20
No, just last game, zero points. Like enough with the excuses.
33:25
If your team is that good, you should be able to weather the
33:27
storm and play through it and and at least win a single game.
33:32
So it's look, the Habs have taken 24 shots over the past
33:36
like two hours of. Hockey.
33:39
And they still have a more wins this around than Colorado does.
33:43
So it's a they're starting Blackwood tonight.
33:47
First game of the series that he starting.
33:48
I think it's kind of crazy to toss him in when you're down 3.
33:51
Nothing. I think they should have done it
33:53
in game three if they were going to do it at all.
33:55
Or should. I But at this point you just try
33:57
to get a spark somehow and get some juice into the lineup.
33:59
Like he could stand on his head and have a great game.
34:02
Yeah, I mean, you're just looking at all the comments and
34:05
post game stuff and whatever, and Colorado just sounds like
34:08
they've given up. Yeah, that's really what it
34:11
sounds like. They're all like, yeah, you
34:12
know. I mean, it's 30 to series, like,
34:14
yeah, at a certain point you you're also looking in a
34:16
history. And if I'm them, I'm trying to
34:19
be fired up and be like, we're confident that we can win this
34:21
next one and the next one and the next one and the next one.
34:23
Yeah. But on the inside, they probably
34:25
know that it's like it's over, right?
34:26
Like 100. How many times does the team
34:28
come back from 30 down? Yeah, especially against a team
34:31
like Vegas. Yeah, The thing is that usually
34:33
at least the team will pretend in their postgame and their
34:37
media stuff, they'll say we're still in this.
34:38
Whatever these guys, they're done.
34:40
They're dead in the water. It's it's just baffling to see.
34:44
I think to me, this is probably one of the shock biggest shocks
34:47
in the playoffs in a long time. Not necessarily the outcome of
34:50
Huan, just the way it happened. So I'm just kind of blown away
34:55
by how this this round is going. I'm disappointed because I feel
34:59
like the story of the series is going to be all Colorado.
35:02
Got hurt in Vegas was like 1 because of that type of thing,
35:05
which I don't feel like is the case at all.
35:06
I think Vegas actually did completely outplay them and
35:10
deserved all three of these. So like they were up 30IN game 3
35:17
and you choked that like that's nobody's fault but you you had
35:21
McKinnon on the ice, killed my car on the ice.
35:23
Like there's no excuse to lose a game like that, especially after
35:26
losing the 1st 2 at home. Yeah, at some point you like
35:29
that's the that's the dagger in the in the brain.
35:31
You're just you're dead after that one.
35:33
All they had to do was not choke a three goal lead and it would
35:36
be two, one series. But now it's 3 nothing and
35:38
they're done. So it's over tonight.
35:42
Tomorrow morning you will know if Colorado has gone swept or
35:46
not, but we're recording tonight, yeah.
35:49
What's your score prediction? Score prediction.
35:52
I'm gonna say I'm going to say 52 Vegas with two empty netters.
36:00
Yeah, um, hmm, I mean, listen, Colorado, leave it all out
36:05
there, right? Is there any chance that they
36:08
win like 5-1 or something? And Blackwood has like a 970 or
36:13
980 and we're like, OK, like, they just gotta win the next one
36:17
at home and then, you know, the next one away and.
36:20
Then and then the next one at home.
36:23
But there there will be a time like if you guys listening to
36:26
this in Colorado one last night and let's say it was super 1
36:29
sided, we're going to be like, OK, listen, this is a team that
36:32
won the President's Trophy. Like they dominated these
36:35
playoff series. Like maybe they're finally here
36:36
to show up and we're going to give them good chances to, I
36:40
mean, as good a chance as you can get to reverse sweep A-Team
36:43
the Colorado will have because of the team that they were.
36:46
But yeah, I don't I don't buy it.
36:47
I think, I think this is over in game four-game five.
36:50
I think, I think it goes to 5 though.
36:52
I think Colorado. Online.
36:53
New to beer? Bet that it's a sweep if you'd
36:55
like to. We're doing beer bets.
36:57
Now, I mean, look, we gotta, we gotta make it spicy a bit for
37:01
for the viewers. What beer bet Colorado does not
37:07
get swept? OK, cool.
37:09
Alright, deal. Yeah, deal.
37:13
Alright, we got to drink a beer for.
37:14
This I know. And for those of you that don't
37:19
know, we do beer best throughout the season where let's say we're
37:22
kind of both on different sides of either a player take or a
37:25
team take or something. We'll do a beer bet.
37:27
And then after the playoffs, we're going to have our beer bet
37:30
episode where we're going to tabulate all the beer bets we
37:32
throughout the season. Then you got to drink as many
37:34
beers as you lost bets. So Jakey lost the most bets
37:38
last. Jakey lost the most best last
37:41
year and I don't know if it's a coincidence or not, but he did
37:45
not drink all the beers that he had to drink so this year he's
37:49
got drink double. Yeah, I like it.
37:51
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm looking for that's gonna be a good episode.
37:55
I'm gonna be in town in in about a month and we'll record it
37:59
then. So it'll be right after the
38:01
playoffs end and. Hypothetically, OK, OK for for
38:05
all our Carolina files out there and all our Vegas finds out
38:08
there, if that's the final that we end up getting, like who do
38:10
you think is going to be the team that is gonna be the
38:12
favorite in that? I'm taking Vegas there.
38:15
Yeah. Yeah, I I just feel like even
38:20
though the last two games Carolinas really stifled us, I
38:24
just feel like 2 overtime games in that like when you're playing
38:29
your game, your style, everything's going the way you
38:31
want. You kept your opponent from
38:32
shooting for 30 minutes and you still need to go to overtime to
38:35
win. I bet you're going up against
38:37
the hot goalie. But Carts playing just as well
38:39
as Dobish is in this playoffs. So I think I think that I would
38:43
give the edge to Vegas over Carolina.
38:46
I definitely give the edge to Vegas because I think Vegas is a
38:49
team that has a lot more experience and I just don't
38:53
think Vegas is gonna be like shut down in terms of like
38:56
getting shots on net. And I think Freddie is cooked.
38:59
So I think if you're playing against a team that can get more
39:01
than 12 shots on net, like you're in trouble.
39:03
And I think Vegas is the team that can probably get at least
39:05
twenty shots on net. So I think that's just a recipe
39:08
for disaster for Carolina. Freddie is the Freddie that we
39:11
all know. I can't emphasize how bad I
39:13
think he is and. That's so bad.
39:14
We talked about it. I know he said he was awful.
39:17
Yeah, it's just it's crazy and that's what makes it so
39:20
frustrating. Also, we have our goalie playing
39:22
out of his mind that their goalie is playing terribly and
39:24
we're still losing these games because we're not taking any
39:26
shots. Yeah, it's crazy.
39:28
But yeah, I definitely give the edge to Vegas there.
39:31
But I do think Caroline's team is fantastic.
39:33
I think they have terrible goaltending so.
39:35
I think the goal thing is gonna be the difference in that in
39:37
that matchup, if that's what potentially happens.
39:41
Something tabs, yeah, big tabs. I feel like I feel like we'd
39:44
have a better shot than Carolina would genuinely because I think
39:48
the of the golden that we're getting and I think the system
39:51
that we play, I don't think Vegas is as like defending
39:55
defensively suffocating as Carolina and.
40:00
I think that helps us out in terms of matchup wise, like what
40:03
we match up against, so we don't have better odds.
40:05
But Vegas is just I feel like a well oiled machine at this point
40:08
and it just feels like it would take something tremendous stop
40:10
them, like they got a completely follow up their rhythm and maybe
40:13
Carolina gives them a run for their money at the Colorado
40:15
gives them a run for their money at the end of this series that
40:18
jumbles up some things for them, but it's so tough.
40:21
The thing is I just I'm fighting narratives in my mind and I just
40:25
I don't want John toward relative to win a Stanley Cup
40:30
and but I do mount Mitchell Marner to win a Stanley Cup and
40:35
I like Jarvis. I would love for him to have a
40:37
Stanley Cup, but I don't want Rod Woody, Stanley Cup playing
40:41
this way type of thing. So I don't know, it's just like
40:43
a. Complete I know I know you mean
40:45
and I I kind of agree that I feel like Montreal matches up
40:48
better against Vegas the way I see it in terms of the
40:50
Montreal's point of view, I view this Carolina series is very
40:52
similar to the Tampa series where it's just very suffocating
40:56
defence and it's hard for us to get anything going, but if we we
40:59
can maybe like squeak through it and.
41:01
Then. Yeah.
41:03
And then I view a series versus Vegas more similar to our
41:05
Buffalo series where it's going to be high scoring both ways and
41:09
it's going to be big swings, but a lot of momentum.
41:11
I think it's going to be more fun hockey.
41:13
I think for neutrals, like neutral fans, I think a Vegas
41:16
Montreal series would be a lot more entertaining than a Vegas
41:19
Carolina. I just feel like Carolina plays
41:22
not, I'm not going to say boring hockey, but just very defensive
41:26
hockey and very shutting down there.
41:28
It's kind of like a clinic. They're running a clinic on how
41:30
to be a well oiled defensive machine and just doesn't lead to
41:34
as much necessarily exciting moments of run and gun.
41:38
But that doesn't mean it's worse hockey because defend honestly,
41:40
what especially when your team, but also in general, watching
41:43
great defence is very impressive, especially when you
41:45
have a terrible either being able to like pull that off with
41:48
the terrible goalie just makes it that much more impressive.
41:50
So, so yeah. And obviously we're biased
41:53
because we just want to see the Habs do it.
41:54
So my, do you want to go? What's your what's your
41:57
predictions for the rest of the playoffs?
42:00
Vegas in five, Habs and seven and of the seven.
42:10
And then I think, I think it's gonna be like Vegas in six.
42:13
Wow. I know, I know.
42:15
I. Had to my God.
42:17
I just, if we're running out of juice, we're gonna use all the
42:19
juice we have to get to 7 with Carolina.
42:21
And then I just feel like we're, we're playing two weeks, we're
42:24
playing two exhaustive hockey. I've got Vegas and four,
42:30
obviously, because I made the beer bet.
42:32
I got Habs in seven. Yeah.
42:35
And then I've got tabs and 7/7. I wanna be there with you.
42:40
I wanna be there with you. Has that happened where a team
42:43
had has played all 28 games to win the Stanley Cup?
42:46
It's gonna happen before. Let me look it up real quick.
42:49
Give me some elevator music. To 222.
42:56
What do you do? 222 dude 22 do do do do do do do
43:06
do do do do. Do Nope, it's never happened.
43:11
Wow, that would be a crazy a crazy record to break.
43:16
First time most games played in a Stanley Cup run.
43:20
Like I think the closest they're saying is the Kings in 2014,
43:25
they want their first three series in in seven and then they
43:28
want a Stanley Cup in 5. OK.
43:32
Um, and improve the 2011 did the what did they won three-game
43:37
sevens in the postseason against the haves, Tampa, Vancouver and
43:41
the and then they won the Stanley Cup.
43:42
So three out of four series game sevens I think is the Max.
43:47
Well, look, if the haves have, if the haves want to beat
43:49
Carolina, they at least have to do it in six because they've
43:51
already lost 2. So it's most likely would be in
43:53
seven. So they would be set up for for
43:55
that, you know. Breaking history.
43:58
That would be so cool. I can't imagine a Game 7 Stanley
44:02
Cup with the haves involved. I'd be so stressed.
44:04
The fact that we play 4 series, go to seven and have zero like
44:08
home ice advantage in any of the series is also just like.
44:11
I think we have home ice advantage against against Vegas,
44:14
against Vegas. True.
44:15
And I, I forgot for a moment that Colorado is not going to be
44:18
the team. Yeah.
44:20
Yeah, could you imagine Game 7 Stanley Cup finals at the Bell
44:24
Centre? I mean, those tickets are.
44:27
Going I was gonna say, how much do you think those tickets would
44:29
be? Minimum $1500 minimum.
44:32
My dad said that if have sync the finals that we're gonna go
44:35
to a game together. So you're saying I'll watch from
44:38
outside in the Avenue? They can and.
44:42
I would not go outside honestly. Last night I was at work and my
44:49
office is stuck to the Bell Centre so we hear like all the
44:51
crowds and everything from like 4:00 PM and I did a watch party
44:54
at the office with my coworkers and this in the game was at 8:00
44:59
PM. I like logged off at like 5:30
45:01
and then we like chit chat and play some games and whatever
45:03
until the game was at the office until like 1131 overtime loss.
45:06
So it felt horrible. But after the first, like right
45:09
before the 1st intermission, like when there's like a couple
45:11
minutes left in the first period, you can check
45:14
Ticketmaster and see like people that like the scalpers and stuff
45:16
that haven't sold their tickets that put them up.
45:19
And there was like there was 4 tickets for like $200 apiece to
45:24
go watch like the last two periods and potentially
45:26
overtime. Yeah.
45:27
And I looked at my coworker was like, are you guys down?
45:30
And then two of them said yes. And the last one was like, I'm
45:32
not sure whatever. Like within the minute they were
45:34
gone. That's crazy.
45:36
And then the only thing left for like $400.00 or something like
45:39
I'm not paying $4.00 to watch like the last two periods or
45:41
whatever. Yeah, but $200 was my limit.
45:43
I would have been like that trigger, let's go.
45:45
You're. Right there too.
45:46
You could have just walked. Over.
45:47
I just walked down and that's it but.
45:49
Yeah, down. That's that's too bad.
45:51
I'll keep an eye out tomorrow. We'll see.
45:53
Yeah. I was watching just.
45:55
I was watching on in my living room.
45:57
Yeah. And I get so upset after the
46:00
loss, right, that I literally can't go to bed.
46:03
I had to toss on the sitcom even though I was exhausted.
46:05
I've been exhausted for the past, like, a week and a half.
46:09
Babies, you know, just being, being babies and baby.
46:13
Yeah, exactly. And I'm just laying there.
46:15
All I want to do is go to sleep. And I'm just like, I can't go to
46:18
sleep with the last thing in my mind being this OT law.
46:21
So I had to watch like two or three episodes of I just put on
46:24
parks and Rec and and just watch, watch some of that to
46:27
kind of cool my mind off because I was and then I and then I
46:29
turned it off and start laying in bed.
46:30
And obviously all I'm thinking about going, but at least it
46:33
cools me down a bit. So yeah, hopefully, you know,
46:37
the opposite side of the coin is when we go for a win, I don't go
46:40
to bed right away because I'm just online reading everyone
46:42
being like this on the coop, you know, and I have like 7.
46:45
Half of those. Messages.
46:46
Yeah exactly. I was like 7 different group
46:49
chats and chats that I'm texting throughout the games and after
46:52
when, you know, I always call my dad after a win because we
46:54
usually watch the games together.
46:56
But obviously I moved so, so you know, celebrate and and yeah, so
47:00
it's a, it's a big difference in vibe for sure.
47:03
And then I have to after a loss, I have to try and keep it in so
47:06
I don't ruin Epi's night. And everybody else's night.
47:09
Everyone else's night and yeah, it's a very dramatic over here.
47:15
Uh, yeah. I mean, listen, hopefully we
47:17
have some good news to talk about next episode and that's
47:20
the only thing we can hope for at this point.
47:22
Next episode is gonna be we're gonna record in about a week, so
47:26
that means. Game 7 is on Tuesday, so we we
47:30
usually record on Mondays, Tuesdays or Wednesdays depending
47:36
on when when the Habs games are lining up and schedule wise.
47:40
So if it's going to game seven, we're probably going to end up
47:43
recording after that game. So it'll probably be Wednesday,
47:47
like next Wednesday, and then the episode will go live on
47:50
Thursday. So if it goes to Game 7, that's
47:52
what you can expect and we'll have a lot to talk about then.
47:55
But listen, if the series is over before then, you'll hear
47:58
from us sooner, so. Yeah, I guess I.
48:01
Guess it depends on how how much you guys are looking forward to
48:05
hearing our voices once again. Yeah, but.
48:08
Yeah, it's it's just gonna be a wild ride.
48:10
Hopefully have some good news talk about but she made it this
48:13
far. We really appreciated everybody.
48:14
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48:16
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48:19
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48:37
I know we're halfway through these semifinal matchups, but
48:40
let us know who you guys got lifting the trophy this year and
48:44
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49:00
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49:02
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