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Gordie Chiesa Hour on the NBA Summer League, Darryn Peterson impressing, Best players to never win a championship+ more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Peace out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz With's former
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  Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Shiasa. He's forgotten more about the
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  Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not get crazy. Come for the.
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  Speaker 2: Hoops talk, stay for his list of the day list today,
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  Speaker 2: here's oc with basketball sob on Gordy Shiasa on the
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  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show on ESPN seven
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  Speaker 3: hundred and ninety two one FM. We got Gordy chias
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  Speaker 3: here in studio James. Before we bring in Gordy, this
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  Speaker 3: is one of the greatest texts that we've ever gotten.
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  Speaker 3: At eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred,
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  Speaker 3: we were asking the greatest utes that never got to
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  Speaker 3: be part of a championship team, the greatest Utah football
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  Speaker 3: players who don't have a championship ring. And a couple
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  Speaker 3: of people have brought in the name Hunter Dimmick, all
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  Speaker 3: time sack leader when he left, when he finished up
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  Speaker 3: right a second tea ball American Pac twelve All Pack twelve.
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  Speaker 4: Also as a senior, he was an.
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  Speaker 3: Excellent, excellent player and he's like a homegrown guy who
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  Speaker 3: is just very much emblematic of what Utah football wants
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  Speaker 3: to be, right, work ethic, hustle type guy. So Sam
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  Speaker 3: on the text line said that's my favorite who never
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  Speaker 3: won a championship. And then he says, you know what
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  Speaker 3: great idea retire number forty nine. Hunter Dimmick obviously wore
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  Speaker 3: number forty nine, but let's do it as like a
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  Speaker 3: co co number retirement. So the headliner for the jersey
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  Speaker 3: number forty nine being retired is Hunter Dimick, who left
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  Speaker 3: as the all time sack leader, and the co retirement
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  Speaker 3: would be my one year on the rosters, number forty nine, the.
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  Speaker 4: Hall of Famer who was.
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  Speaker 3: On who By the way, if you remember actually when
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  Speaker 3: we went to the Fiesta Bowl, well, they didn't have
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  Speaker 3: the actual jersey number that I was listed on the
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  Speaker 3: roster during the regular season. So for the Fiesta Bowl,
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  Speaker 3: I got the jersey number fifty seven, and they put
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  Speaker 3: me on the roster for the Fiesta Bowl is number
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  Speaker 3: fifty seven. And the jersey that I have in like
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  Speaker 3: a box in my office at home is number fifty seven,
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  Speaker 3: which I never actually wore except for that one game. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: A fantastic suggestion from the text line, Gordy Jasey here
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  Speaker 3: in studio with us, we'll talk all things hoop.
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  Speaker 4: Gordy, how are you.
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  Speaker 1: Sir, Seoan.
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  Speaker 5: I'm doing well, thank you, and I'm excited about talking
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  Speaker 5: about your jersey number.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm exciting.
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  Speaker 4: What number? What was your jersey number back in the day?
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  Speaker 5: Well off in the area where you had two jerseys,
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  Speaker 5: went home and went away? Okay, And a lot of
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  Speaker 5: knucklehead teammates we forget there they wear the wrong jersey
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  Speaker 5: to the game. That's in case. So I wore number
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  Speaker 5: twelve at home, right thirteen on the road. So white
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  Speaker 5: jersey and doctor Now it's all one jersey, which is good.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, jersey.
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  Speaker 5: Numbers is really like it's important. It's your identity. And
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  Speaker 5: the fans, the fans like love wearing players jerseys.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, great.
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  Speaker 5: I get a great kick at Jazz games when I
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  Speaker 5: see like like yes to your players, like say Mark
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  Speaker 5: Eaton or a Bobby Hanson or a Carolinko. You know, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: Dan by all the guys from yester year that we
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  Speaker 5: all know, and I coach many of them. Is that
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  Speaker 5: people wearing them, which is really kind of neat.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy Jay is Award number twelve. So again you could
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  Speaker 3: go with the same thing here. Jersey number twelve very
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  Speaker 3: important for the Utah Jazz Co retire it.
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  Speaker 4: John Stockton and Gordy Chaers.
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  Speaker 5: What I'd be down, God bless John. I'd be insulting
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  Speaker 5: to John, to say the least. But again, it's really
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  Speaker 5: a lot of fun. And I always tell the players,
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  Speaker 5: you make your jersey famous by how you play, and
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  Speaker 5: it doesn't matter what number you are. Especially a lot
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  Speaker 5: of times when a guy gets traded, he has a
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  Speaker 5: certain number he always wore, but the guy on the
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  Speaker 5: new team has already wore that number. And that's what
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  Speaker 5: makes it so interesting where and when that does happen.
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  Speaker 5: We always counsel the guys, make you new jersey number famous.
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  Speaker 3: Feel We had this very recently in the NBA. Tim
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  Speaker 3: Hardaway Junior ends up on the Miami Heat and the
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  Speaker 3: initial report was Tim Hardaway Senior's number is retired by
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  Speaker 3: the Heat organization. Correct, And the initial report was that
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  Speaker 3: Junior wants to wear number ten, and Dad's like, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, man, I don't know if I'm gonna let
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  Speaker 3: that bring that out of retirement for you. And obviously
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  Speaker 3: it got resolved that he's gonna wear number ten. But
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  Speaker 3: I found that hilarious. That Dad was just like, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, do you really deserve to wear my retired
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  Speaker 3: number to his own son?
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  Speaker 1: Oh very much?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and sat there and current tents right here in
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  Speaker 5: Salt Lake City. Cal Philipowski gave his number twenty two
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  Speaker 5: jersey to the Darry Peterson, which is really kind of neat.
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  Speaker 5: And again, if I'm Cal Philipowski, whatever number you are
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  Speaker 5: right now, is that you make that number famous for you?
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  Speaker 4: We hear these stories.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes jersey numbers are important to players NBA, Major League Baseball, NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Lock inning, aluck inn.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of times you gotta you gotta buy the
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  Speaker 3: number from the guy, or you gotta say, all right,
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  Speaker 3: I will donate to your favorite charity whatever for number
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  Speaker 3: twenty two. I'll do twenty two thousand dollars or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: You hear sub stories. Who was it last year somebody
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  Speaker 3: wanted like a million dollars for the jersey number and
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  Speaker 3: the guy that wanted it was like, get out of here,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not paying you a million dollars to wear number nine.
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  Speaker 1: Or whatever it was.
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  Speaker 3: There was a football guy player. Yeah, I think it
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  Speaker 3: was it'll come to me. But yeah, so yeah, the
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  Speaker 3: numbers are important. They're hilarious. And when you're a walk on,
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  Speaker 3: a lowly walk on back in the day, uh you
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  Speaker 3: you took the number.
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  Speaker 4: That they gave you. You were just like, yes, I
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  Speaker 4: have another, thanks coach. I remember.
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  Speaker 3: I remember heading into my second year at the University
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  Speaker 3: of Utah that spring, They're just like, what number do
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  Speaker 3: you want to wear? And I had this lit right
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  Speaker 3: of numbers I wanted to wear. Unfortunately, the top three
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  Speaker 3: numbers I requested were guys who were going to be
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  Speaker 3: captains on the team the next year. And there's like,
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  Speaker 3: you can't have any of those because we're not taking
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  Speaker 3: it away from Spencer Tune. So you can wear it,
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  Speaker 3: you don't get to wear the same number as Grady Marshall.
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  Speaker 3: You have to wear something different. I'm like, dang it
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  Speaker 3: all right, so.
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  Speaker 1: You just quick side note.
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  Speaker 5: But the greatest number of all time, no one's ever
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  Speaker 5: word since then is in baseball Jackie Robinson. So Jackie Robinson,
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  Speaker 5: for the younger listeners, was the first ever African American
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  Speaker 5: player to play Mejor League baseball way too long in
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  Speaker 5: nineteen forty seven, and so in honor of Jackie Robinson.
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  Speaker 5: Mejor League Baseball has that uniform. No one's ever word ever.
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  Speaker 4: Number forty two is forty tired around the league.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and they do the commemorative game where they'll have
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  Speaker 3: the eletrical wear forty two for that game. But it's
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  Speaker 3: to honor Jackie Robinson. Pretty cool, Yes, it is very much. Well,
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  Speaker 3: you heard me ranting about that. Just strange topic that
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  Speaker 3: came to my mind. The greatest Utah football players who
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  Speaker 3: did not win a championship, but weren't member of a
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  Speaker 3: conference championship team. And look, I'm sure all these guys
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  Speaker 3: are in a situation where you know they've moved on
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  Speaker 3: in life and they're doing good things. Some of them
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  Speaker 3: are playing in the NFL right now. Other guys are
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  Speaker 3: off doing their own thing, insurance salesman, dads, doing whatever
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  Speaker 3: they have to do to get through.
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  Speaker 4: It is a.
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  Speaker 3: Cruel reality that you can be an All American, an
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  Speaker 3: All conference and all everything type player, and because of
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  Speaker 3: circumstances in the ultimate team game like football, you never
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  Speaker 3: get to achieve the highest level of team success.
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  Speaker 4: You never get to be part of you never.
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  Speaker 3: Get to There are guys that are a thousand times
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  Speaker 3: better at football. Then most of the rosters that I
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  Speaker 3: was on that never get to have that ring that
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  Speaker 3: they can put on a little stand in their office
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  Speaker 3: or they get to where to space events to say yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I was a member of a conference championship team when
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  Speaker 3: there's a bunch of scrubs from better teams that do
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  Speaker 3: have it. It's an injustice in all sports, and it
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  Speaker 3: gets even worse in pro sports, where people's legacies are
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  Speaker 3: discussed gordy and valued or devalued based on championship wins alone.
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  Speaker 3: It's like the tale as old as time and something
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  Speaker 3: that is very close to home here in Salt Lake
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  Speaker 3: City because our best, our very greatest Utah Jazz players
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  Speaker 3: have never had the distinction of also being NBA champions.
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  Speaker 5: That is correct, and it's also and those players they
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  Speaker 5: are absolutely winners. Unfortunately they didn't win a championship. Remember,
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  Speaker 5: organizations win titles, not individual players. It's a whole organization.
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  Speaker 5: Here's a quick list that we just talked about in
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  Speaker 5: a commercial break here of some of the players that
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  Speaker 5: didn't win a title. There are absolute generational talents locally here.
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  Speaker 5: John Stockton call them alone. Jeff Horn its other teams,
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  Speaker 5: Reggie Miller of the Pacers, Charles Barkley of the Sons
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  Speaker 5: and also of the Suns and also the Rockets, Chris Paul,
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  Speaker 5: Steve Nash, Patrick Ewing, Chris Smullen, Dominique Wilkins playing in
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  Speaker 5: NBA right now, James Harden and Donovan Mitchell. All these
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  Speaker 5: guys have never won a championship, yet all of them
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  Speaker 5: have a winning game. And that's what's so hard about
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  Speaker 5: it that winning is so hard to be a champion
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  Speaker 5: and title and these guys all have winning games and
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  Speaker 5: have special talents. Unfortunately, when it was time to play
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  Speaker 5: for the NBA Finals, the other guys were slightly better
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  Speaker 5: and Jazz Basketball. I was there front and center. Is
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  Speaker 5: that the Jazz lost to the world's greatest player of
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  Speaker 5: all time who did the greatest things to beat us.
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  Speaker 5: And that's, like I said, with any hesitation, and because
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  Speaker 5: I was right there, remember show, and I was a
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  Speaker 5: guy yelling to Jeff hornisack the gold double team. Michael
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  Speaker 5: Jordan the last play in nineteen ninety eight when he
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  Speaker 5: made that killer jump shot against Brian Russell. By the way,
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  Speaker 5: did he push off? Yes, no, Maybe the ref's never
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  Speaker 5: gonna call it.
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  Speaker 3: We've had some great ones here in Utah. Again, keep
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  Speaker 3: your text coming in eight seven seven three five three zero,
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  Speaker 3: seven hundred. The greatest ute football player to never win
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  Speaker 3: a conference championship. We'll read off some of your answers.
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  Speaker 3: We're just starting out with Gordy Chas. I'm gonna try
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  Speaker 3: to stay on clock here, so we'll take a break.
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  Speaker 3: We'll come back. We've got a lot to discuss. Adam
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  Speaker 3: Silver wants an investigation in the Kawhi Leonard and salary
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  Speaker 3: cap circumvention. He wants that investigation done before the season begins.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk a little summer league. We've got Gordy here.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna pick his brain and we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: lean on him for all of his basketball expertise. It's
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  Speaker 3: Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN seven hundred and ninety two NFM.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy Chasa here in studio with us a question that
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  Speaker 3: we're hanging out all day. The best player to play
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  Speaker 3: for a Utah football team that never got to be
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  Speaker 3: part of.
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  Speaker 4: A conference championship team.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking the starlow to the Lays of the world,
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  Speaker 3: the Luther Ellis's of the world. These guys that were
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  Speaker 3: among the best that we've ever seen, but never got
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  Speaker 3: to be part of a championship squad.
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  Speaker 4: Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy Chase here in studio with us talk at all
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  Speaker 3: things Hoop, and we we had a conversation on Tuesday,
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  Speaker 3: Gordy about summer league basketball. The Jazz shut down Darren Peterson,
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  Speaker 3: the Wizards shut down aj DEBONSA. A lot of people
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  Speaker 3: have seen everything they need to see. And you and
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  Speaker 3: I have spent years talking about how you're supposed to
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  Speaker 3: judge this Jazz team, not really based on well, are
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  Speaker 3: these guys as good as Steph Curry? Are these guys
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  Speaker 3: as good as Nikole Jokich. It's always where are they
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  Speaker 3: at relative to their peers? And that's what summer league
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  Speaker 3: basketball is all about.
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  Speaker 5: Oh very much, yes, And you know with the Jazz,
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  Speaker 5: they did shut down most of the guys, but less
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  Speaker 5: not ironically, they didn't shut down Darren Peterson. Jazz lost
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  Speaker 5: last night in Las Vegas to Disperse ninety four to
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  Speaker 5: eighty two. Darren Peterson played twenty eight minutes, fifteen points,
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  Speaker 5: four assists, four turnovers, five rebounds. He's shooting, which has
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  Speaker 5: really been good in college and that's what he does best.
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  Speaker 5: He struggled the whole summer time, including last night, four
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  Speaker 5: for sixteen and zero for three. However, as they go forward,
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  Speaker 5: Darren Peterson what he does best besides penetrating and getting
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  Speaker 5: in the lane, he's a natural shooter, so his shooting
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  Speaker 5: percentage will increase dramatically once he gets with the varsity,
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  Speaker 5: meaning all the main guys in Jazz basketball. He'll be fine, Sozz.
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  Speaker 5: The Jazz lost last night quickly. From the Spurs point
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  Speaker 5: of view, which we all respect the Spurs of what
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  Speaker 5: they're doing. Jacoby Gillespie has scored twenty five points led
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  Speaker 5: the Spurs. He was the forty second pick of the
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  Speaker 5: draft last year the University of Tennessee, and he's a
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  Speaker 5: very good player and he'll be another guy that the
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  Speaker 5: Spurs have as far as a perimeter that will add
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  Speaker 5: to them. Right now, other quick guys that have played
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  Speaker 5: well just generally speaking in Summer League, Caleb Wilson of
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  Speaker 5: the Chicago Bulls, Are you kidding me? How talented this
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  Speaker 5: guy is? The Other Knight was a classic game where
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  Speaker 5: he played against the Cam Boozer, who's another tremendous talent,
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  Speaker 5: and Caleb Wilson hit it out of the park thirty
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  Speaker 5: five points in that game. He's a major talent. Fourth
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  Speaker 5: pick in a draft. He's a foundational pick for the Bulls,
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  Speaker 5: and he is playing very well. Quickie whe of this
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  Speaker 5: quick side note of the Celtics. Hugo Gonzalez is a
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  Speaker 5: second yar player from Spain that plays for the Celtics.
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  Speaker 5: He's played very well in some league. I'm looking forward
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  Speaker 5: to seeing him play and being a major contributor as
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  Speaker 5: the Celts continue to be an elite team.
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  Speaker 3: So Darren Peterson is going to be judged against aj
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  Speaker 3: Debonsa for their entire careers. Cam Boose is going to
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  Speaker 3: be judged against those two for their entire careers. Caleb
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  Speaker 3: Wilson is going to be stacked up against these guys
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  Speaker 3: for their entire careers. You made this bold claim on
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  Speaker 3: Tuesday that maybe all four of them end up being
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  Speaker 3: NBA All Stars. Hasn't happened in fifty six years since
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  Speaker 3: that nineteen seventy draft. That's the tidbit that we love
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  Speaker 3: from somebody like Gordon Chiesa. But who else in the
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  Speaker 3: NBA are you judging this rookie class against, Because like
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  Speaker 3: we said, it's not all you got to today. You
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  Speaker 3: have to be as good as Lebron James. Who are
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  Speaker 3: the other measuring sticks that you look at in the league.
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  Speaker 3: That are the guys you gotta keep pace with if
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  Speaker 3: you're a twenty twenty one year old rookie.
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  Speaker 5: These their best under twenty five players in the NBA.
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  Speaker 5: So again, the best young guys under age twenty five.
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  Speaker 5: And before I say the list is that Kay Cunningham
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  Speaker 5: is twenty five and above, and so is Anthony Edwards, who.
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  Speaker 1: We know are in their prime.
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  Speaker 5: Right now, here we go and this list is evolving
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  Speaker 5: where it could flip flop the numbers et cetera. Number seventeen,
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  Speaker 5: Jellen Green h twenty four from the Suns, number sixteen,
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  Speaker 5: Ace Bailey H twenty from the Jazz number fifteen, Chet
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  Speaker 5: Homerom h twenty four from the Thunder number fourteen, Alexander
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  Speaker 5: Saar h twenty one from the Wizards, who is vastly
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  Speaker 5: even underrated. Number thirteen Unsar Thompson H. Twenty three from
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  Speaker 5: the Pistons. Number twelve we just mentioned the second ago
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  Speaker 5: Sean and I, Caleb Wilson and age twenty of the Bulls.
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  Speaker 5: Number eleven, Polo Cambero from the Magic H twenty four,
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  Speaker 5: Number ten, Darren Peterson nineteen years young from the Jazz,
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  Speaker 5: Number nine Aged de Boncer age nineteen from the Wizards.
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  Speaker 5: Number eight, Dylan Harper H twenty from the Spurs. Number seven,
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  Speaker 5: Alpha ron Chagoon eg. Twenty four from the Rockets. Number six,
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  Speaker 5: kN Knipple H twenty one of the Hornets, Number five
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  Speaker 5: Stephen Castle H twenty one of the Spurs. Number four,
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  Speaker 5: Jalen Johnson age twenty four from the Hawks, Number three
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  Speaker 5: Amon Thompson age twenty three from the Rockets, Number two
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  Speaker 5: Cooper Flag age nineteen from the MAVs. And number one
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  Speaker 5: we know it already his name, Victor Wenbiyamba twenty two
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  Speaker 5: of the Spurs. These are the top seventeen guys that
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  Speaker 5: are aged twenty five or under, and there be other
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  Speaker 5: guys in that list, And this list will be involving
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  Speaker 5: as far as who gets even better each passing year.
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  Speaker 5: So in jazz basketball, there's two guys in that list
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  Speaker 5: in Ace Bailey and then Darren Peterson. The question is
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  Speaker 5: philosophically shown situationally. Can the two jazz young standouts can
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  Speaker 5: they someday outplay these guys consistently in their age group?
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  Speaker 1: That's the question.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be unfair to you and ask you
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  Speaker 3: another question about that list. If you had to put
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  Speaker 3: your life on whoever is going to be an MVP
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  Speaker 3: eventually on that list? I think number one Victor Woman Yama,
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  Speaker 3: we all think is probably.
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  Speaker 4: Gonna win multiple MVP awards.
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  Speaker 3: But who else on that list would Gordy Chase have
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  Speaker 3: put his life on winning an MVP at some point
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  Speaker 3: in his career.
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  Speaker 1: Cooper Flegg okay A J.
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  Speaker 5: Debonser, Oh wow, yes someday, all right, yes, someday. Amir Thompson,
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  Speaker 5: wow of the Rockets. Got this way he plays? He says,
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  Speaker 5: winning game. He's a two way player. He's acting like
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  Speaker 5: nineteen points a game and his team doesn't pass the
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: ball to him, and he played in guard. So also
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: add to that we say MVP, your team also has
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: to win. So the question is also there's your's your
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: team deep in the playoffs as far as every year
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: and that do you win fifty four games, fifty five
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: to fifty seven games in the top one to two seed.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: And I think all these guys with their franchises can
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: and it's it's gonna be a great Uh. The NBA
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: is in great hands with these with these wonderful young players.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Gordon Chisa hangs out with us for another thirty minutes
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: or so.
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  Speaker 4: We've got left to get to.
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• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Gordon Chays is here with us in Studio Cordia.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: We were just talking about the during the break, the
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: schedule these players have in the rest of this offseason
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: summer league in the books, and you know, guys are
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: supposed to stay in shape, show up for the regular
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: season in shape.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: But you also got to take your rest. You gotta
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: let your body recover.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: How do a lot of these guys handle it for
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: the next couple months, Yeah, a.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: Couple of months, meaning that it's already mid July. So
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: the players, most of the guys, the young fellas that
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: were in some of they should go back to the
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: city where they live and just try to lun with
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: rest and recover from the intensity of the summer league
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: and also the training of it, and then then report
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: back to the city where they're playing in sometime in
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: early September. And remember there's so many injuries. It's not
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: a question of a player it doesn't want to work hard.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: Sometimes you can work hard and your lower body, your
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: lower body rebels against it. Where you have so many
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: injuries of lower lakes either shin splints or or sore
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: ankles or pull hamstrings, and that's from not being in shape.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: It's being what overuse.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: And a lot of times when your type a personality,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: especially a young guy, is that you think that it's
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: never going to happen to you, but it does. So
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: it's that balance between how how often did the coaching
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: staff come to your city to work you out, or
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: do you work in a group session in San Diego
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: or in La or in Las Vegas, or back east
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: in Atlanta or in New York City.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: As far as a group you've got to.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: Understand your body, and the more times that you can
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: do that, the more advantageous for you to try to
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: not have so many lower body injuries.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Are talking about the soap opera that is the NBA.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: In this offseason, we had like a real reality television show,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: a real soap opera kind of headline when there was
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: a physical altercation when Tyler Herro allegedly was punched in
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: the face by Bam out of Baio down in Vegas
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: at Summer League play, and you know, both players have said,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: we're just trying to move on from this. The league
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: does not look like it's gonna levy any discipline for
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: either player in the situation. How do teams look at it? Though,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, these guys are no longer team. How does
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: the NBA look at a situation like this? Does a
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: guy get put on kind of a short leash because
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: they've gone from just an argument to a physical altercation,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: or how's it handled?
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Kind of behind the scenes.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: From Maami heat point of view, Tyler Hill got traded.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: So I'm assuming that bamb Baabado and Tala Hero, where
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: there were teammates for the Miami Heat, probably didn't like
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: each other as far as what they've represented it. And
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Tyler Herro just watching him play over the years, he's
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: a finesse player and really a non defensive player. Bambadabado
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: is the opposite. He's a tremendous defensive player, a willing rebounder,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: and it seems to me that he's more team orientated.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: So there's probably a lot of ill advice that was
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: going on internally and that both players view each other
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: as a challenging personality. And what happened very simply to
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: remind people, there was a trade that the Milwaukee Bucks
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: are quite Taler Herro, Hymri Hakez co l Aware and
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: Casper Casper risk Uh risktonis from the from the they
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: acquired from the Heat, and the Heat acquie from the Bucks,
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: Giannice and Bobby Portis. So it's more of a thing
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: that was deep seated. I'm sure it happened in practice
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: many times where those guys were at each other and
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: that they made a trade now for the for the Heat,
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: they're starting over with Giannis and Bobby Portis and with
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: the Milwaukee Bucks they're starting over and Tyler Herro gets
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: a new slate. So a a lot of times it's
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: deep seated. It starts in practice and it ends in
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: the locker room also, And from the NBA standpoint right
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: now is that it's it's really a case by case
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: and team by team.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Looking at the situation with Kawhi and the Clippers, he's
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: no longer with the Clippers. Again, there were some rumors
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: out there that Adam Silver and the NBA kind of
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: forced a moving on from Kawhi and the Clippers because
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: there's that complication, there's that investigation and things like that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: The NBA front office and Silver himself they have denied
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: that they had any influence in moving on Kawhi Leonard
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: from the Clippers for a fresh start back in Toronto.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: But there is now a mandate that the investigation into
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: salary cap circunvention be completed before the season begins. So
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: whoever wants to punish the Clippers for this has got
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: to get it in front of the league now, and
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: whatever defense needs to be put in front of the
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: league at least closer to now that they before the
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: trade is all the way completed, you have to have
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: resolution on this issue.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: How much time is this going to take?
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Recording?
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: Well, the first thing that should be done already over ready,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: so they had enough time even before the trade, and
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: let this review the trade. The Raptors acquit Kawhi Leonard
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: and the Clippers acquired Brandon Ingram and Grady Dick and
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: the first round picks in twenty thirty one and twenty
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: thirty three and second round picks in twenty thirty and
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: twenty thirty three, and the rights through swap picks next
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: year in twenty twenty seven. And so the trade did
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: not go through officially until one you've got to pass
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: the physical of each team. But also because of Kawhi
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Leonard's situation with the Clippers, for the listeners that might
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: have forgot, that's when the Clippers allegedly circumvented the trade
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: rule and that they're able to a salary cap when
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: they acquit Kawhi Leonett are from the Raptors, ironically, and
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: they paid him a whole bunch of money through a
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: third party, and then the Clippers said that they didn't
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: know about it, and of course that's the question right now,
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: and that also shown the second part of that where
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: they're saying that they violated it twice. Now with another
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: situation with kai let it being paid by an outside source,
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: because at that time when the trade was made that
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: the Clippers couldn't fit him into the salary cap, but
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: they did with the maneuvering. And now there's an outside
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: council that is now has not ruled yet, and that's
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: the problem right now. You've got to make a ruling
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: about it. My instincts tell me that the Clippers are
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: at fault.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: So the NBA.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: According to Emisilver, the NBA is not the one pausing
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: the completion of the trade. But the Clippers and the
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Raptors agreed that, well, yeah, we're not going to put
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: this thing all the way through until a resolution. And
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: that makes sense from the Raptors side of things, especially
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: because if Kawhi is going to be suspended or Kawhi
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: is going to have to serve some kind of penalty
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: for this, and you've just traded a bunch of assets
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: for him, you get no return on that investment, so
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: you might not want to do this. It's very rare
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: in pro sports that trades get reversed for any reason
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: at all, and when they do, oftentimes it's because of
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: like a physical being failed or something. We saw this
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: in the NFL recently with the Crosby trade to Baltimore.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: But even that, it's like it's pretty rare. So is
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: there in your mind is there any real risk that
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: this trade doesn't go through because of this investigation?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: Wow, Yes there's a risk. Yes there is, because it's
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: never happened before. As far as you mentioned about injuries,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: this is not injuries. This is circrevating the salary cap.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: And that's why I remember now it's the whole league.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: The board of governance is the thirty NBA owners, and
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: that if you allow this to happen, is that it
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: affects everyone else as far as the business model. And
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: so they want to know what happened and how and
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: how can they stop this that never happened again. And
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: that's what makes it so interesting. Steven Bamber is the
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: owner of the Clippers, and he's part of it right now.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: With see there's no ruling on it, so now they
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: have to let's find out what is going on because
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: it does affect it affects the Clippers who affects the
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: jazz and for the Raptors, it affects the microbockers, who
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: the world champions, So it affects all thirty teams in
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: the NBA.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: For the record, for people who maybe forgot what this
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: is all about, the allegation is that Kawhi Leonard received
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: an endorsement from a now bankrupt company that Steve Balmer
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: invested in. And the allegation is that he invested in
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: this company so he could indirectly pay Kawhi Leonard more
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: than he is allowed to pay him under salary cap rules.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Kawhi gets an extra whatever twenty three million dollars because
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Steve Balmer is a billionaire who can throw around sixty
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: million dollar investments and not really care if that company
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: goes under. Balmer has denied that he knew that that's
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: what was going to be done with the money, et cetera,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: et cetera. And look, it's the perfect plausible deniability. You
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: can say, hey, this company had a partnership with the
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Clippers that is totally viable. Now they're bankrupt, too bad
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: for them. But initially the plan was that they would
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: have a sponsorship endorsement deal with the clippers, and it
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: was actually supposed to be a total of like three
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: hundred million dollars over a decade or so. Unfortunately the
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: company goes under, but Kawhi Leonard still got his money.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: It was a twenty eight million dollar endorsement deal. And
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, so Aspiration is the name of the banking company.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: They had a three hundred million dollar, twenty three year
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: endorsement deal with the team. And again Steve Balmer invested
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: sixty million dollars into this company, So at least sixty
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: million dollars of his money went to Aspiration and then
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: twenty eight million dollars went to Kawhi Leonard. One could
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: infer that that twenty eight million dollars came directly from
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: the sixty million dollar investment of Steve Balmer, and that
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: would be a very convenient way to get around the
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: salary cap.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: That's where the accusation is centered.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the timing of it. Yeah, that's the problem is
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: the timing of it. So again, the NBA, they they
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: understand this and they want to have resolution of doing
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: it of what happens, and they need to they know it.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: They need to get this done because it affects us
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: so many other teams as far as the Domino effect,
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: so we shall see. Also, Sean on the NBA front
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: right now, is that the Lebron James watch.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: The Lebron James sweepstakes is something I had on my notes.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: I wanted to get to herees last thing on Kawhi Leonard.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: If it's found that he was part of salary cap
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: cir convention, the NBA can avoid his contract and find
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: him as a player three hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: Yes they could, right, Drey wouldn't happen because this doesn't
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: have a contract technically.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: And then but if his contract is voided, forget me
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: for not knowing he's a free agent, so that Toronto,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: then Toronto can get it without giving anything back to
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: the Clippers. So if you're in Toronto, you're just like, oh, cool,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: well this is I mean, who knows?
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: And in my.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: I'm really really curious because this feels like, you know,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: a rabbit hole kind of like.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Kind of like performance enhancing.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Drugs in the NFL that the league might not actually
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: want to go down.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: Oh no, not at all, they really do not, because
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: it's a bit it's a bed for the partners in
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: the NBA, and so we shall see it. But again
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: it's a very July mid July, and training camp starts
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: again in September.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, so there is a clock on this situation.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: So we shall see.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: And speaking of the clock showing with Lebron James, you know,
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: we mentioned last week that Lebron is the number one
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: player out there. As far as the Domino effect, here
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: are some guys that are still out there in the
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: NBA as far as free agents, and they're all will
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: fall into place once Lebron signs, either I believe with
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: the Cavaliers or possibly the Golden State Warriors. Here's some
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: names that are out there right now. Bradley Beal, Kevin Love,
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: George Niang, former jazz Man, Delmar De Rozan, Benedict Mathern
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: from the Clippers ironically again, venture back Kawhi Leonard. And
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: as far as the trade, he's restricted. Peyton Watson, very
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: good young talent from the Nuggets. He's also restricted. John
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: de Kaminger of the Atlanta Hawks now is out there.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: They moved on from man Spending. Dewitty, a very good,
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: all round talented h thirty three year old guy that
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: helps the team, Russell Westbrook, Draymond Green up out of
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: his twenty seven point six million dollar contract to get it,
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: and also James Harden is out there forty two point
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: three million, and Lebron, So there's twelve guys out there,
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: plus many other guys that have not assigned yet. And
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: that's a bad feeling for an NBA player that technically
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: right now you're unemployed in the middle of July, and
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: again with European teams, most times shown European teams want
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: to have their their foreign players, usually NBA players on
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: their roster, usually by the first week of August, because
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: they start practice showing roughly in the middle of August,
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: so the time is catching up right now.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Speaking of European teams, a lot of reports out there
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: that the NBA is ramping up its discussions with potential
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: owners of NBA Europe franchises. They want to launch a
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: league in twenty twenty seven, so this time next year
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: we could have a full plan in place.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: What is that going to look like? Gordon, You're a
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: lot more dialed in on how.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Basketball and basketball prospects and all that stuff is handled
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: in Europe, and there's some there's some really healthy, thriving
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: brands in EuroBasket, in Europe, euro League Basketball, and now
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: the NBA is potentially elbowing its way in here.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Is it going to be collaborative? Is it going to
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: be a hostile environment?
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Does the NBA have to fill niches that like, you know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: there's already a really big club in Barcelona that's attached
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: to the Barcelona Soccer Club ownership and things like that.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, what's this?
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Is it going to be a fight for the NBA
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: to get into Europe or is it gonna happen smoothly?
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: You think, well, involve this FEBA. So Feb's involved, and
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: this would be a different not it should be NBA players,
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: but the FEVER would be running it with partnership of
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: the NBA. And so they're talking about six different cities
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: and that some NBA players that are ultra wealthy might
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: buy into the team Seoan. So imagine being an NBA
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: player and you're going to buy into a team in
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Europe as far as with some other NBA play with
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: NBA talent, and so it's still is a working progress.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: We've not seen the cities as far as who they
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: are and who coaches the teams and what number of
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: NBA players are allowable to be on these teams in Europe.
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: So it's still right now. So much is up in
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: the air, but they've discussed right now and the TV partners.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: Who gets the TV rights from it? Is European rights?
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: Is it is it? Is it a TNT now buying
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: into it? Is an Amazon buying into it? No one
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: knows you right now, but so it's right now. It's
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: still a working progress with nothing definite minus that we
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: want to do this and shall see oh absolutely.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, how big do you think this ends up
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: being for the NBA, Because we see all the time,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: right these professional leagues they kind of flirt with the
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: idea of development. Now, the G League is a real
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: thing and is a product that is well established. The
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: NFL has never really done this. They don't necessarily need
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: to because college football serves as their developmental league. The
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: NHL has relationships and they have a club system. Obviously,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Major League Baseball has their you know, club system all
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: the way through from Single A up to Triple A
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Baseball and stuff.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: And this is it's not brand new territory for the.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: NBA, but it's somewhat familiar territory in a potentially new environment.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: How how deep is this going to go for the NBA,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: How much money are they gonna throw it this right away?
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: How experimental is it going to be or is it
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: like hey, if we're going, we're going and we're staying.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Well, the question right now is who's going to have
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: the the main rights to it?
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Is the FEVER or is it the NBA.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: That's the question philosophically, And there's still it's right now,
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: it's still had not been determined as far as that,
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: So that's the first major hurdle that they have to
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: talk at. Took it out and sign contracts as far
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: as doing it, and again also the TV partners and
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: are the NBA player NBA type player talent or they
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  Speaker 5: actually NBA players that are part of a union of
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  Speaker 5: the NBA or is it a new union of both
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  Speaker 5: players that been in the NBA with players also that
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  Speaker 5: are foreign born that are now playing on these teams
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  Speaker 5: as teammates. So again, there's just so many different things
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  Speaker 5: as far as having it. There's enough players around the
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  Speaker 5: world that they could work though as far as talent level,
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  Speaker 5: there are and speaking of the G League, Sean last
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  Speaker 5: year in the G League, there was fifty three players
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  Speaker 5: public fifty three percent of the players in the NBA roster.
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  Speaker 5: The sought the season last year, played in the played
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  Speaker 5: in the G League at least one game wow in
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  Speaker 5: their Korea, fifty three percent of the NBA players, which
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  Speaker 5: shows you that it's here to come. It started in
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  Speaker 5: two thousand and two and now this is twenty four,
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty five years coming up anniversary, so it's going
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  Speaker 5: to be great though.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy Chaze here in studio with us, brought to you
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  Speaker 4: As you covered, Gordy, what's your list today?
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  Speaker 5: Well, list today right on Point Show and we talked
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  Speaker 5: about about European basketball. This list today is in nineteen
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  Speaker 5: ninety two United States Men's Olympic roster dream Team. So
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  Speaker 5: the World Cup is going on right now. It's been
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  Speaker 5: a home run as far as the countries we know,
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  Speaker 5: Argentina is really great in it. And this list is
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  Speaker 5: right now the original dream team for the young listeners.
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  Speaker 5: It's the first time Olympic history that NBA players are
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  Speaker 5: allowed to participate in the Olympics. This team was elected
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  Speaker 5: in twenty ten into the bat Nate Smith Basketball Hall
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  Speaker 5: of Fame. As a team, the team of nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 5: two Dream Team won a gold medal by an average
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  Speaker 5: of forty four points. The Olympic Games were played again
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  Speaker 5: mentioned showing in the same city, Barcelona, Spain.
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  Speaker 1: In this game.
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  Speaker 5: In the gold medal game, the USA defeated Croatia for
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  Speaker 5: Olympic gold medal. The head coach was Chuck daly O.
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  Speaker 5: Here's the roster. Point guards Magic Johnson and John Stockton,
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  Speaker 5: shooting guards Michael Jordan and Clyde Drexler, small forwards Larry Bird,
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  Speaker 5: Scottie Pippen and Chris Mulling. Power forwards Karl Malone, Charles Barkley,
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  Speaker 5: and the only college player at that time, Christian Lightner
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  Speaker 5: out of Duke University. The seners were Patrick Ewing and
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  Speaker 5: David Robinson. Michael Jordan was the only player to start
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  Speaker 5: all six Olympic games which I mentioned earlier. They won
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  Speaker 5: by forty four points on an average. This is the
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  Speaker 5: greatest ever basketball team ever assembled. Eleven of the twelve
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  Speaker 5: players have been inducted into the Naspid Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 5: The only player not being inducted is Christiana Latner. So
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  Speaker 5: this is the nineteen ninety two original Dream Team. That
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  Speaker 5: was the first time ever that at that Before that
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  Speaker 5: the other countries had professional players playing in it, and
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  Speaker 5: we're playing out college players, right, and it's finally in
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  Speaker 5: nineteen ninety two. This was the original Dream Team and
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  Speaker 5: Jazz was represented very well in John Stockton and also
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  Speaker 5: in the Calm alone.
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  Speaker 1: This is my list of today.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know it was designed to be exactly that,
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  Speaker 3: the Dream Team. I wonder if there's ever been a
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  Speaker 3: team anywhere in any sport that has that level of
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  Speaker 3: dominance and talent on the same team, Like I don't
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  Speaker 3: know enough about the Big Red Machine of like Soviet
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  Speaker 3: hockey back in the day, like the equivalent. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of those guys were not playing in the
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  Speaker 3: NHL at the time, right, But it just feels like,
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  Speaker 3: is there some Pakistani cricket team that's the equivalent of this.
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  Speaker 3: It feels like, based at least on our knowledge of it,
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  Speaker 3: that that is the best team that's ever been put
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  Speaker 3: together in any sport.
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  Speaker 5: Correct, in any sport ever, as far as one group
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  Speaker 5: of people, and it was by a design. And now
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  Speaker 5: the Olympic basketball again, it's pretty soon, it's two summers
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  Speaker 5: from now in LA.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be huge.
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  Speaker 5: And we know that USA, as great as the players are,
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  Speaker 5: is a country called Sean. You've been there many times,
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  Speaker 5: so have I. France led by Victor wen Byamba and
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  Speaker 5: that crew, they're going to try to spoil the Olympic.
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  Speaker 5: USA dominates. USA has won five straight Olympic gold medals
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  Speaker 5: now in basketball, five in a row. Okay, And so
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  Speaker 5: now the coach is Eric Spolstrom is the coach, and
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  Speaker 5: gren Hill runs USA basketball right now, former great NBA
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  Speaker 5: player and also in the Hall of Fame. It's gonna
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  Speaker 5: be challenging because right now basketball is a global sport
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  Speaker 5: and that's what makes it so interesting.
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  Speaker 1: There's great players all over the world.
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  Speaker 5: Remember it took every ounce of Steph Curry's brilliance to
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  Speaker 5: beat Serbia led by Nikolai Jogic ninety one, where step
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  Speaker 5: was outrageous in that game making those three point shots
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  Speaker 5: two years ago. Now in two years later, two years
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  Speaker 5: now in the future in LA Olympics, we shall see
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  Speaker 5: what's gonna happen. But I do know Sean, some of
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  Speaker 5: those guys you mentioned earlier today, as far as Cooper
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  Speaker 5: flagging those guys they should be on the Olympic team.
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  Speaker 5: It's that unbelievable transformation of talent of each generation to
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  Speaker 5: play in the Olympics. Remember, it's so ironically shown. The
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  Speaker 5: World Cup is bigger and every other country in the
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  Speaker 5: world minus basketball, So soccer World Cup is bigger than
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  Speaker 5: in basketball, the World Cup and basketball, but in America
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  Speaker 5: Olympics at number one. Yeah, that's the mentality of it.
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