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Kevin "El Gallo" Nuñez & WWE's Historic Week - #81 · The Grounded Show

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I get there one day and that was like full blown production crew there,
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like ready to record content. Yeah, and they're telling everybody may Weather's going
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to show up. And they had all the trainers there, all of them.
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And I was cool with a bunch of trainers. They're like, we
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don't think he's coming, Like I think they just told us that just to
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show up, dude. They were recorded ten hours. He never showed up,
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never showed up, and everybody they had all the trainers. And there's
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one trainer that they had who did who was in his corner for a while.
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Yeah, because you were a Spring Valley Yeah right, he had so
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they they were in. They didn't run those classes like they didn't run the
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full concept of the classroom. Yeah they Yeah, everybody get in the circle.
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I like that, but not every single time, right right, right
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right. It wasn't well managed as it is here. It's different for sure.
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Ye. The wrestlers, BRORA take wrestlers, wrestlers favorite wrestler, Like
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when you think of wrestler, who you think of? Heartbreak Kid? Heartbreak
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Kid? What about you Kevin Undertaker, that's a good one too, What
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about you Quincy Stone cold Stone Cold Man? That might be I'm like stone
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Colder Rock, like that's my first thing. But let me tell you this,
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before stone Colder Rock existed, Before that, my guy was Stinging Bro.
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Yeah, I was about That's crazy. It was Stinging gold Bird.
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My dog. Sting never wrestled dog. He just hung out in the bleachers
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with a bird. You gotta give it to I don't know that man,
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what's different, But that's what I mean. It's like I feel like the
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stone Cold in the rock era was like the new generation. So of course
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that became They became my favorite. So when I say heartbreak kid, it
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was before anybody else like that existed. There was no stone Cold, there
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was a rock. Yeah. Yeah, fact Now, he definitely was like
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Sean Michaels was was like an inspiration. He was pretty much the whole catalyst
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of the attitude that we like. It was really him. He's the one
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that led that whole charge. He changed wrestling. Really when you really think
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about it. Facts and I will tell you one that slept on Bro is
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macho man, Randy Savage boy. That nobody he was exactly. That's like,
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that was the thing about him, Bro. It's like his character.
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Bro, you can't I don't think nobody can compete with that. When it
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comes to the character Hogan. Hogan, he had his own brand. Like
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wrestling, you gotta if you got somebody that can. If you have a
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brand and somebody can follow you even outside, you're done, when you're doing
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your career, you just he pays away because he had, like the movies,
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the transition where he still played the whole character in movies like The Rock
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would eventually do. Bro, it's twenty twenty four, you still have the
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whole Holgana. He's still eating off that persona. Bro. He's still selling
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T shirts. He got two restaurants in clear Water. I think that they
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be packed and people go to like this memorabilia shop he got on the beach,
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like he's still look. Have you ever seen the Dark Side of Wrestling
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specials? I've seen one of them, but I don't really watch all of
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them. That's to check those out, man. They're on YouTube. It's
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it's a vice network that doesn't and they have a story about like Macho Man
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and the Queen Elizabeth Oh yeah yeah, and like their relationshipeah. The Dark
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Side of the Ring. It's all the dark stories and wrestling. Yeah,
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and like how everybody who really influenced wrestling and the ship they had to go
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through behind the scenes right now. Yeah, nowadays it's a show, But
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that Monk was really like I've seen some of those shows, bro, I'm
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talking about like they had they like the cuts were real. Yeah, yeah,
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yeah right they all. Right, Man, let's let's get the show
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starting. Let's go. Damn we in the eighties. Yo, welcome back
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Grounded Show Episode eighty one, right, episode eighty one. Man, we're
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on the road to the one hundred. Joe planting the seeds for the for
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the theme for the one hundred. Let's see if that happens. I got
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to hear about that one. But yeah, man, we were just talking
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a little bit of wrestling with Kevin. Go ahead and introduce yourself to the
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people. We've been wanting to have you on for a little while. Actually,
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absolutely, man, God, bless y'all, Thank y'all for having me.
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Joe the fam, Kevin is man, truly blessed to be here.
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Yeah, pro boxer, own Mayweather Boston and Fitness and Oviedo and head coach
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out there. Man, love what we do, fire man, fire But
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yeah, man, before we officially started, we were talking about a little
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bit of wrestling, and one of the topics that we had wanted to get
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into last week that it was just too good to pass up, especially with
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like further developments of it, because you know, last week they announced that
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The Rock was on the board that WWE. You know, part of the
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perks of him becoming a board member is he had full They gave him full
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rights to his name. So now the Rock all the likeness, everything that
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has to do with The Rock any sense, masters he got his master,
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he's on the board and got his master's crazy bro And they announced the five
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billion dollar Netflix deal WWE. It's moving to Netflix beginning of twenty twenty five,
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So that's like the crazy does that mean? Though? What does that
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mean? They're taking wrestling, well, not wrestling but Raw. It's actually
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Monday Night Raw is no longer going to be on cable. It's going to
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stream live on Netflix on Mondays. So Netflix is trying to make that move
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into like the live streaming content and it was like their first big move.
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So imagine the dynamic of the show. For sure, it changes the dynamic
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of the show and it changes the availability of wrestling. Bro a lot of
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people don't watch wrestling because they don't buy cable no more. You know what
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I'm saying. My kids don't know nothing about cable. They don't want to
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hear about, you know, waiting for something to come on on the TV.
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You know what I'm saying. So now it's gonna be on Netflix,
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available on Netflix, bro, you know, we might see that boom,
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Like how when it was in the nineties when we was young and wrestling was
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going crazy, that might come back just because it's gonna be available to so
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many people. Again, That's exactly, That's exactly what I read. It's
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like, what the main change is that today as wrestling is today, it's
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not like a football game where they can push the cut time for the ads
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because they got to satisfy ads. So with a sport like wrestling, which
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is depicted and drawn out specifically, they know where the cut times are,
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so sometimes they have to just speed things up and just cut scenes and cut
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just to make the ad time. So they're like, now if they start
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a match ten minutes before the time it's supposed to be over, it doesn't
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matter. They can let that match run for the full sixty minutes. That
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it's allotted, Like they no longer have to adhere to that to get the
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money for the ads because there are Netflix now, So now it's like that
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crew and now they can curse. M about that. I don't even think
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about you know what I'm saying. Now they can curse and playing around.
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Got to deal with the centers anymore. That is a whole new generation of
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wrestling that's gonna come about, for sure. Yeah, that's crazy. I
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didn't even think about it from that point of view. That's even just a
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wild thing to think about. Like they're moving all Like wrestling is basically known
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for that Monday night Live show on TV, you know what I'm saying,
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and them to just completely go away from that model, bro, Like it
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just shows you, like how much the times are changing, you know.
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But they did it to football too, Yep, yep, they got them
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prime games now, I mean they eventually listen, it's not gonna be capable
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anymore. Yeah, it's funny, man, I heard everybody gets that.
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Everybody's gonna you know, I heard Peter Rosenberg talk about it, and it's
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kind of like the same thing that like the same idea I thought about was,
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like it's so funny how everything's broken up to all these different packages and
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different things, and it's like just turning right back into a cable package.
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Facts, in a couple of years, it's going to be the same thing
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that it was before. You know what I'm saying that they're already starting to
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join up. They're already starting to put streaming stuff on Netflix. Like eventually
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Netflix is just going to be basically cable bro Bru exactly Bro. I was
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actually talking to my fiance about that the other day. I was like kind
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of starting to compare, and I was like, dangn man, like we
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actually get to a point where we might as well get cable, you know
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what I'm saying, because we got Disney plus Paramount conversation. I was like,
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man, we might need to sit down and talk about Yeah, yeah,
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you might be onto something because you know how the cable usually you can
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log into those other apps through your cable provider. Exactly, you feel what
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I'm saying, So like, who knows if you just get you know,
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cable for sixty a month or something, and you could just get everything on
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top of it and exactly, yeah, don't get a twisted though. Some
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of them app's gonna charge you a little bit just to just to get on
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your cable. Yeah, that's true. You still gotta be just just give
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me doing that. And I guess, come on it, wife. He
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loves like Loving hip Hop and all those shows. And I try to log
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on the v H one Plus because I didn't even know there was a VH
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one plus, and they're like loging with your cable provider. I said,
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with all the app subscriptions I have, I can't watch Loving hip Hop?
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This is crazy. Oh yeah, that's just get cable. Yeah. If
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you saw Basketball wise, oh yeah, the Orlando one. Did you know
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there's a basketball wife or they went to the studio. That's the studio they
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went to. Oh that's great. Just like you said, I'm talking about
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I get I get a call right a uh X amount X wants to These
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ladies want to try it. They want to do a personal training session,
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signing up, let's work. Little did I know that I was gonna walk
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into people. You didn't until you walk The people were covering, right,
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that's not and people were you know what I'm saying, Like you said,
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the whole broadcast going down, you're talking about it. I thought I'm thinking
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I'm doing a thirty minute personal training session, fellas, I'm in there for
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four hours. Yeah, because that's the longest days they want to Yeah,
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they got to the shots the longest. Whether it's an hour, that's crazy.
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For four hours. Yes, they were definitely trying together, right,
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Yeah. And that's what it is. It's like everything has something so unique
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to it that it forces you to either get cable to have access to everything,
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or you gotta subscribe to everything after after watching if you want to watch
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everything, if you want to. But I think that's why they do it
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that way, exactly exactly. If you I know, I don't know about
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Chube, but whether I had top or not, I was going to watch
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some football. You know. I was gonna find a way. I was
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gonna find a way. Hey, look I'm leaving him with so well,
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I got to do left fire stick, so I'm good, you know what
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I'm saying. That's why I got that. But I was one who used
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to pay for the Sunday ticket. I used to pay almost four hundred dollars
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a month for that. I couldn't believe it paid twenty dollars a month for
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those six months of football crazy, right, never again? Yeah, man,
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But yeah, just speaking about like wrestling, it's like it's wild,
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man, like the growth and how things are changing. But it's also crazy
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because after all that good news came out, a lawsuit came out for Vince
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McMahon. I don't know if y'all heard about that. Basically, Vince McMahon,
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he's not the He didn't start the ww His father did, but he
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bought it from his father and turned it into the national world wide powerhouse that
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it is. You know, his dad was running. It's set up the
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grassroots for yea. His dad established the territory in New York. Like he
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set up like the whole Northeast as far as wrestle goals. So he had
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the Madison Square Garden on Lock. You know, he had all those New
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York venues on Lock. So obviously he was set up in a great place
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and they just started the expansion from there. And obviously now that we know
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what we know about business and marketing, man, he did his thing.
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No, bro, that expansion, that expansion is crazy. Bro. He
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bought that company for a million dollars from his dad and I think they sold
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for five five billion. Bro. Yeah, like that's crazy. You know,
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one thing that takes for granted to And like I said, we're gonna
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talk about the shittiness of Vincent man, but the come up was crazy,
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Like I see all the content of all those like he had like a stand
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up standing up, like a late night show stand up scene where he had
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rests, come out, play instruments, do interviews on couches you see.
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Like like I didn't know he was so deep in that content creation. Yeah,
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they did, like a variety show. Like yo, I never knew
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he went that hard at it, and that would makes sense why you reach
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the levels it did. Yeah, it's just wild to think about that vision.
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Yeah, him just being able to even see that through like from where
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it started to where it ended up, you know what I mean, And
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just like it's crazy. Bro. Wrestling is like one of those things that
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to me is so wild and interesting because they're really creating something out or nothing.
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Because it's like UFC, it's legit, so you know, it kind
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of sells itself when you have great fighters boxing same thing. It's legit,
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so it sells itself you have great fighters. But in wrestling, it's like,
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bro, we all know it's fake. They still keep selling it those
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and they still keep selling it. They still keep having us watching, like
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think about who's gonna win or lose, knowing that you know, it's not
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even legit who wins or loses. You know what I'm saying. It's like
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they're literally is always sold out facts, yo. And it's not like they
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hit in little theaters or something. They in arenas every Monday, bro every
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Monday, thousand seats, eighteen thousand seats, twenty thousand seats every Monday and
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Friday, two days a week. They selling out arenas every week. And
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remember there was there was just one last Sunday game. Yeah, it just
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passed. They had one, exemple, it just passed last Sunday, last
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day. Somebody like you know what I'm saying, Like they really and they
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they planned that market well because you know that the Monday night raw, after
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any Sunday night pay per view, especially World Rumble, is one of the
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biggest Monday night raws ever. And now those Monday night raws are going to
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be on Netflix because literally every pay per view that they do it on Sundays
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right and Saturday, but they still do them on the weekend. Yeah no,
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but they do Saturday WrestleMania, but they also now they have two nights
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of wrestling, so it always ends on Sunday because the addition is whatever happened
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that Sunday on a pay per view is in again unwrapped that Monday night on
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Raw. And like that commentators and Coats too, they know how to speak
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business. It was like he was a mastermind. You can't take that away
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from him. So I have a question for y'all who won in that deal?
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Netflix or TKO. That's a good one. That's a good question.
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It really depends on, like because like the way they're kind of explaining it
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is like Netflix is trying to really take that plunge into the live space,
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you know, seeing what Amazon Prime is doing, what Hulu's doing, Like
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they're kind of like trying to like catch up, and this is like one
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of the big steps towards it, for sure. And you know, I
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think that the deal is a ten year deal that's five billion dollars. So
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I think for Netflix it was a great deal, and I honestly think for
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ww was a great deal too, because I think their last TV rights deal
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was like a couple billion and this one is five Now bro, Like that's
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I mean, and like like Joe was saying, you got so much control
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now at Netflix compared or like Cable with so many hands in the pot,
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Like it's a whole different beast. So I'm I'm I'm gonna say this just
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if y'all can guess how many people would you say tuned into Monday Night Raw
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every Monday. Just a guess, like between two and three million, two
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and three million? Yeah, oh million. Okay, So now they've tapped
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into Netflix came to two hundred and forty seven point fifteen million subscribers as of
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twenty twenty four. Yep, not to mention. People are gonna be on
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Netflix, and you can imagine that it's gonna have a banner up top WWE
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whatever exactly, you know. So that's why I say WWE. I think
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they both won, but I feel like WWWE is walking away from that situation
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with the power to basically amplify already a connglomerate company, you know what I'm
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saying, Like to another level when you get on Netflix. Sometimes you get
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on Netflix and you see something that you've never watched before. Exactly, Now
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you got a whole other qua And yeah, then you're like balls deep in
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the whole black hole of watching everything that ever existed about it. Exactly what's
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this one? What was the in the show Gladiators? Yeah, that documentary
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came out. Oh yeah, that was one of the kind of like wrestling
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too. I grew up on Gladiators. I used to watch that ship every
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week and just think about it, like it was such a flash in the
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pan, like Gladiators came in. It was a couple of years. Bro
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Wwe been on top since the eighties, bro with no signs of stopping,
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remember, because they when they started it was on TBS and TNT Max and
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now they're on the big one of the biggest probably streaming services ever. It's
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just but so now let's get into the business deal a little bit, because
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I think business aspects and entertainment is important because there is somebody who got to
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make these business decisions. They're kind of stray from like the core of what
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you wanted the thing to be, you know. So now I think Lesson
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knows a little bit more about it with the whole ri situation and who owns
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it. So now it's the Holdings Grew that owns w W and UFC,
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right, yep, exactly, yeah, and like Ari's ahead of it,
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right, So so basically this deal has they said after the deal came out,
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they said that it had been in the works for a little while.
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The company that bought w I mean that bought UFC a few years ago from
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the Fatida brothers. They actually ended up buying WWE as well. So they
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formed a joint. The t KO Holdings is the name basically they created for
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that joint, you know, owning owning venture that they're having with w W
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UFC. It's kind of like the same company as the head of them,
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even though they're going to remain separate. They have plans to do like a
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little bit of crossover stuff obviously, you know what I mean, kind of
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take advantage, try to like it's funny, like mixing those markets, even
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because mixed martial arts and UFC fans generally are really against wrestling, you know
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what I mean. They don't like it. They always you know, they
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hate the fake aspect of it and versus the biggest stars in in in the
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USC. Look at Brockles, the Rosy transition transition. That's a natural transition,
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and it's crazy because you think about him wrestling all that time, and
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of course he was a collegiate wrestler, you know, one of the greatest
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collegiate wrestlers of all time. So it's like he was also an athlete and
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also a fighter in some form. But he went from WWE straight to UFC
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and in a few fights he was a heavyweight champion, Bro, So you
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can't discount wrestlers, you know what I'm saying. These Yeah, the Olympics
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with a broken freaking deck, broken neck dogs. You seen that documentary,
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right, yeah? Bro, that boy that documentary is sick dog. And
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so speaking of athletes in the game, like, I think that's that has
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that has to have had something to do with I mean, really, if
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you look at like boxing promotions right now, a lot of them work with
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each other. Talent. They have to, they have to. If you
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don't if these if these promotions don't start working together, then you gotta you
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gotta build your own talent. These four brains were better than one. Everybody
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knows how hard it is to build an audience. So if you could share
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that cross promote, you know what I'm saying, Like getting new new people
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to see your product, Dog, that's that's a hard, hard, hard
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thing to do. So do you see this? Do you see UFC making
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the Netflix shift? No, that's a good question. I know I know
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that the I don't know exactly what happened, but I know that the ESPN
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deal they had kind of sour and plus yeah, the exact details. But
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you got bellatour. Now you got you know what I'm saying you guys,
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Yeah, you got more than just your see baron knuckle tour. You got
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live cage fight. Yeah, bare knuckles big And like I said, Mike
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Perry, that's a dude who I trained with for like a year and a
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half over at usc gym Alex Nicholson, he's over there right Mayne. I
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saw you posted him. I work out with all the people with his people
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over and Craig Duncan Hi. Yeah, Bro worked out with him. That's
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where I started my boxing ship, like seventeen years ago. And like I
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see these people and like it's really like they can be because Mike Perry was
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in UFC but then he went a barre knuckle but he's building himself up.
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So it's like if you have these like like we're talking about Brocolessner, like
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if you have these athletes that are superstars in one genre, you can move
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them and they can be super so they have that natural ability in them to
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build himselves, especially with the sport, especially with the sport evolving the way
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it is, like there's there's you got MMA guys taking boxing classes because you
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got to evolve in your boxing, you know what I'm saying, or et
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cetera. It is definitely evolving, and definitely with the business on the business
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side of things like I don't, I don't. I don't blame brock Listener
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for Trump, you know what I'm saying. That's that's a whole different avenue.
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And now you got Ronda Browsey doing the same thing. So I think
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the reason I say like no, though, is because from the standpoint of
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I don't think the UFC has the same leverage to make a deal with Netflix
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that WWE have. From the standpoint of the ww just kind of going off
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with what you guys just said. You know what I'm saying, The WWE
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has a certain amount of viewers every week, and you know, for UFC,
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yeah, people watch UFC or The Ultimate Fighter, but it's nowhere near
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the same audience. And then they make a lot of well let me get
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there, let me get what I'm saying. They make a lot of their
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money through pay per views, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's
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like the big stuff. So when it comes to WWE, we followed the
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story every week. We want to know what's going next. UFC we follow
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the actual fights, and it's not as much of a story as it is
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a fight. If that makes sense, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
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because and if great me if I'm wrong. But it's like you said,
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it's a story in wrestling, it's not necessarily a story for the real
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life. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, between
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UFC fights, you're not following the character, you know. Yeah. Yeah.
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And so it's like from the standpoint of like Netflix, you know,
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like like we said, Netflix walked away with something. They're they're gaining that
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audience, you know what I'm saying, and WW is gaining their subscribers.
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I don't think that the UFC is. Netflix isn't about to raise their price
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to combat the UFC making their money off of pay per views. You get
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what I'm saying, Like, yeah, okay, you know what I'm saying,
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they don't bring it up to the table. Basically you're saying, yeah,
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the exactly exactly, But that's what I'm getting at. Like, I
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feel like UFC transcends internationally. They have all the fights out in Saudi.
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Yeah, you know, it's primarily Brazilian jiu jitsus you know, entire South
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America. Yeah, follow them. Do you think WWE has that extension over
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them? Oh for sure. For sure. Wrestling is crazy. That's worldwide.
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Yeah, wrestling was worldwide back in the attitude ere Yeah, Like they
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stream Monday Night Raw and SmackDown and all that stuff, like in every country,
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bro, Like they're everywhere. Dog Like wrestling has a crazy fan base.
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Bro. They go overseas and sell out shows like every show, and
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probably because they haven't kept up with it as much, I don't see that,
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but I know, you know, I remember they shows are like and
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Iraq, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, bro, they
24:44
have a they do these Saudi Saudi Arabia shows, Dog where a wrestler will
24:48
get paid like three million to wrestle one match. Bro. Yep, yeah
24:52
crazy, that's how much they want you out there. Yeah, facts,
24:56
But that's the port of the business. The point of the brand, you
24:57
gotta you gotta reach out and just like anything you're doing, whether you're creating
25:02
content where you're starting your career in boxing, you got to reach out to
25:06
audiences that don't know you, but you know they're gonna you know you got
25:11
and that that's what I'm saying. Like when it comes to entertainment, whichever
25:15
run you're at, because I feel like we're all entertainers in some aspect.
25:19
You have to make business decisions, man, marketing moves, even if it's
25:23
not the most important thing to you. Yes, and you're your own brand,
25:26
man, and if you especially with the fighting thing, if you're your
25:29
own brand, and ultimately is really is a team effort. But if you
25:34
don't market yourself, no one's gonna market you. I mean unless you're Shaker
25:41
Stevenson coming from the Olympics. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, already
25:45
you know what I'm saying. Then that's lay paid for you. But but
25:48
you definitely have to market yourself. And that's all goes back down to my
25:52
man, Steven Matt. He had he definitely put the marketing out there,
25:56
and he definitely set the brand because it was more than just the wrestling.
26:00
It was all the events, all the marketing. Look at the at the
26:03
wrestling shows, everybody's got a wrestling shirt on. Yeah, I always wonder,
26:08
you know what I'm saying. Wrestling fans are wrestling fans are mega fans,
26:12
bro, Like you go to a wrestling show and they're magna fans.
26:17
You know what I'm saying. The little square ring, all the little the
26:19
little wrestlers. So mm hmm. Sure. Yeah. One thing they're gonna
26:25
make sure it happens is extending that UFC reach, extending the ww reach.
26:30
With Ari Emanuel and the Rock kind of at the helm of that, they're
26:33
gonna they're gonna take the thing to Super New Heights. And it's kind of
26:37
crazy, man, because the guy that's kind of like at the head of
26:41
all of this is Ari Manuel, which is the Agent in Entourage. I
26:47
wanted to talk about him for a while. Facts, Bro, it's so
26:49
crazy how it all like connected, you know what I'm saying. So he's
26:53
that he's the agent basically that's loosely based off of Entourage, like the agent
26:59
in Entourage, I know, you know Jobo, just so everybody knows the
27:03
backstory. So he ends up being the guy that's at the head of this
27:08
company that bought ww and UFC. He's heading the merger, he's the one
27:15
kind of making the big decisions. And as soon as they announced the deal,
27:22
a lawsuit comes out on Vince McMahon with like crazy allegations sex trafficking,
27:29
harassment, rape, I mean crazy things. And basically, like once this
27:36
came out, it kind of shited on the whole parade because they just announced
27:41
a rock on the board, five billion dollar Netflix deal. You're looking at
27:45
a time of growth in the company, and now you got to deal with
27:48
these crazy allegations that are coming your way by way of the former head of
27:52
the company, Vince McMahon, who is the one that builds it all up.
27:56
And the crazy detail for me, and that is I saw an article
28:00
that came out that basically said that ari Emanuel was going to really come down
28:03
heavy on this situation. And the reason being is they say he's like a
28:08
real like he's a guy that stands on integrity, like one hundred percent,
28:12
Like when when the Saudi the reporters got killed in Saudi Arabia a few years
28:18
ago. He had gotten recently gotten an investment of four hundred million from the
28:22
same you know, from the Saudi government, And as soon as they killed
28:26
that reporter, he sent that four hundred million back. He said, Noah,
28:30
I don't want to do business with you like this is a dude sending
28:33
back four hundred ms, dog four hundred ms and a guy that's that's navigating
28:40
business deals like this. I'm one hundred percent sure nobody wanted him to give
28:44
back four hundred ms. Bro. And on top of that, he had
28:48
sent his daughter to work at WW a couple of years before, kind of
28:53
like leading up to the merger, and people close to him are saying,
28:56
there's no way in hell he would have sent his order to work there if
29:00
he knew anything crazy was going on. Ye, like that missing man was
29:03
going exactly. So that's why they're saying, like Ari Emanuel's feeling so caught
29:08
off guard by this because he really had no clue that he's about to put
29:11
the hammer down on Like they're saying, he's in a clean house of anybody
29:15
that even had a whiff of this was going on and didn't say anything like
29:19
if you was part of this at all, you're gone bro. His brand,
29:26
Bro. And it's crazy, like he's protecting his brand, but he's
29:29
also standing on like integrity in a way that like a lot of these companies
29:33
don't do that. You know what I'm saying, This integrity, that's that's
29:36
what got up there, man, And so that's what that's what what got
29:38
you there is we got to keep you there. And if you try to
29:41
play outside of that, man the other So if you walk away, like
29:47
I said, it's a major point. He walks away from four hundred million
29:51
for the incident that that okay, So if you walk away from now that
29:53
you definitely would have handled something. And that's everybody ready gives him that credibility
29:59
like okay, all right, you know how to make business decisions in yep.
30:03
Yeah. Man, It's crazy because and even just to think about it,
30:07
this is probably like the proudest like career moment that he's ever had.
30:11
And he was really getting ready to relish in that moment and get ready to
30:15
get to work, and then this kind of hits you out of left field.
30:18
This dude couldn't you know, This dude had to be a dirt back.
30:22
So now your whole thing is kind of all messed up. You know
30:25
what, I mean, like it's just so crazy how like when you're dealing
30:29
in those situations, everybody's decisions have a big impact because you're not just affecting
30:33
your own life, You're affecting the lives of everybody around you that's eating off
30:37
of what you're eating off of. Sure, Yeah, they was talking about
30:41
there was like twelve million dollars in hush money that they couldn't even like figure
30:47
out where it went or like what exactly the situations were. And like they've
30:52
kind of like been able to through like this new lawsuit and some other information,
30:56
they've kind of been able to deduct where like a couple million is,
31:00
but they still haven't figured out like what the what the other money was for.
31:04
So there's like so much more that they feel like it's going to come
31:08
down the pipeline just because like there's still so much money missing. And if
31:12
like this is just one story with one chick, like it's bro, it's
31:17
a serious it's sick bro. And it's the same as like the Bill Cosby
31:22
thing. Dog It's like a dude that you grew up with that you looked
31:25
at like like dog, this was the man. Like even we're just talking
31:27
about like as a businessman, what he did, Like he bout wrestling to
31:32
our lives, bro, and he just goes out like the biggest dirt bag
31:37
dog. So y'all think that there's all your life of having this rep of
31:44
Really a lot of people look at this man as like, you know what
31:48
I'm saying, vision of it? Yeah, because what you had to do.
31:52
You're talking about twenty thirty forty years plus in the business summed up off
32:00
of crazy. So you know, the thing I think about, you know,
32:05
when I heard the whole situation, the thing I thought about was just
32:08
kind of coming up as a kid and watching wrestling and all those like creepy
32:13
little gimmicks and stuff like that, Like we always would laugh at it was
32:16
funny. But now it's like, damn, like how much of that?
32:20
But that happens to everybody. It's like when Kelly Shit came out, everybody
32:23
started re evaluating all his tracks. Oh this is just talking about it came
32:29
out reevaluate e joking. And that's why if you're gonna, I feel,
32:32
if you're gonna be an entertainer, or you're gonna be in the spot like
32:36
if you don't maintain your integrity and then you can go twenty years with the
32:42
best integrity and morals forever. The day you flop, they're gonna reevaluate your
32:46
whole everything and be like, all right, how long has he been his
32:51
scumbag? Yeah? Yeah? And it's crazy because like you also kind of
32:54
just look at stuff through a lens of innocence when you just assume the person
33:00
is solid, you know what I'm saying, So like you might be listening
33:02
or watching with a different lens because you're not thinking of them as like a
33:07
dvan or whatever. And then it's like when you go back and you really
33:10
realize what they was about, that's when they hit you, like, oh
33:14
man, now it makes sense these things, you know what I mean.
33:17
It's just crazy how that how that be shaping up? So you gotta stit.
33:22
You gotta stand on morals. Man. You never reach a point in
33:25
your career, no matter how good you are, no matter what you're doing
33:29
in life, You'll never reach a point in your career where you can just
33:31
be grimy and people are gonna brush it under the rug. Yeah. Facts,
33:37
same people on the way up, but the same people you're gonna see
33:38
on the way down. Oh yeah, that's crazy, bro. You like
33:44
to look at things like you gotta go to bed with the decisions you're making,
33:49
you know what I'm saying, and you're waking up and you're finding out
33:52
this. Come on, yeah, it's crazy all this time you Kevin.
34:00
So, I got a question for you, bro, when you think about
34:02
boxing, what's the one thing that comes to mind, like just once,
34:07
Like, what's that one image that you get in your head? Just boxing
34:09
in general? My family, family. Yeah, man, that's what I
34:15
do it for. That's why I'm still in it. I feel that well,
34:20
what got you in there originally? Listen? Man? I was a
34:22
baseball player. Okay, I was a baseball player growing up. I had
34:27
a baseball scholarship. I play you know, howy or Bias me Bias Francisco
34:34
Lindoor Jersey, you know they. I played with them on Team Puerto Rico
34:39
and got into boxing as as as Really it was a job. At first.
34:45
I was a sales employee. Yeah, on my twenty first birthday,
34:50
I'll never forget that. Ten years now in the industry and started as a
34:54
sales employee. I said, hold on talking about I'm an athlete. I
34:57
could do this. I could do this boxing thing. Then I started,
35:00
that's amazing. After I started training, I said, hold on, I
35:02
can do this, Let's do it, and started buching Man started buying.
35:07
There's people who pick it up quick and that that. I always always admire
35:10
stories about people who like Joel Embiid who never played basketball a day of his
35:15
life until after high school and became an MVP. It's like people who could
35:20
just say, hey, I might be really good at this if I tried
35:23
and just do it and end up really good at it. Something with the
35:28
body, you know what I'm saying, and some things being a baseball player
35:30
if you play baseball, you know, baseball and boxing have a lot to
35:34
do with each other. Yeah. It also really tells you, like how
35:37
few excellent people that really are out there, you know what I'm saying,
35:42
because it's it's just it's hard to find like people that can really expel that,
35:47
you know exactly exactly like natural talent, natural talent. Yeah, but
35:52
like just the idea of somebody that's going to really work for something, Like
35:55
everybody ain't out there thinking like Leicster, he's good at everything. I always
35:59
telling me it's good and everything, but it's like you know, like where
36:02
you where you go, everything that you learn. If you go hard at
36:06
it, you know what I'm saying, You're you're gonna be good at it,
36:08
you know what I'm saying, Like I feel like whenever, like like
36:13
what Kevin said, like from baseball to boxing, it to be great at
36:15
both. Like it's not a coincidence. You're bringing over the same principles from
36:20
the baseball into the boxing and you're telling yourself the same thing, like I
36:23
want to be the best at it, you know for sure? Yeah no,
36:28
but you definitely you definitely is like you said, it's definitely time.
36:30
That's that's Boxing is probably the most difficult sport. It's frustrating it when it
36:37
comes over there actually learning it. Hitting a baseball with a bat is hard,
36:43
especially when it's moving, you know what I'm saying. Baseball is difficult,
36:46
But when it comes down to the technique, the grind, you know
36:51
what I'm saying. In boxing, you're talking about two three hour practices and
36:53
training, you know what I'm saying. So and it's all over the same
36:58
six punches many but it's like a frustrating concept because you want to expect the
37:05
next punch to come out, and it's like you gotta control it. You
37:07
gotta control Yeah, boxing is like you got to perfectly master the body and
37:13
mind, like to be really good at it, you know what I mean.
37:15
The other sports team you know, in basketball, you can kind of
37:20
go on auto pilot, you know what I mean, Like in boxing you
37:22
can't do that. You know, the same thing with baseball. You know,
37:24
you in the field, like you can kind of go on auto pilot,
37:28
Like once the ball is up, you already know what to do.
37:30
The ball's going one way, It's going to go that way, you know
37:32
what I'm saying. It's not going to turn mid air. You run.
37:36
You know. It's you know, with boxing, you don't know what's going
37:39
on because you got somebody across from you that's doing as much thinking as you
37:43
are, with as much power as you got. You know, it's crazy.
37:47
It's just even like kind of try talking back again about the UFC bro
37:52
I used to be a huge I'm still a big UFC fan, but I
37:55
don't go anymore. I used to go to like a lot of UFC events,
37:59
but it's like eventually, like I don't know if it was getting older
38:01
or what dog, but hearing them hits. Eventually You're just like, no,
38:06
I don't even want to hear this no more. Bro, Like he's
38:08
seeing people get knocked out is like whoa bro? Like just I went to
38:14
one show one time that there was like three knockouts like in the first three
38:16
fights, and I was like, oh, and you just hear that sound
38:20
and just hear them when they drop and see like the person stiff like that.
38:23
It's like, dang, bro, this is crazy. And these people
38:25
just wake up and just you know, go right back to training as soon
38:29
as they can and sign up for a fight right away. I shout out
38:32
to my cousin Jesse Lizama, he's on CALLI. He's another fighter that I
38:39
want to start working with, be part of his team out of CALLI,
38:44
And dude, like the way he trains is just like your It's just a
38:47
different kind of mindset than all the other people ever met that train to do
38:52
anything. One thing I want to get into is because one thing I ask
38:54
these guys it always wanted to ask someone who does it, how much does
39:00
like the professional like price fighter fighters like watching it, keeping up with it.
39:08
How much is the influence where you do so like you know, uh
39:12
Less and Quincy you are musicians, And I asked them how much like the
39:15
you know, the barely popular artists and the people they look up to,
39:20
how much do they keep up? How much do they influence how you do?
39:22
What you do? Don't depend it all. It's it's a following,
39:30
right, It's a following. So I I I always admired the people that
39:37
could do it and do it humbly. I've I've always looked up to because
39:43
boxing you gotta sell yourself. You know, we talked about Mayweather gets a
39:49
lot of hate, but he I tell them, I tell everybody Mayweather took
39:53
like the w W E route. He sold the persona because a persona self.
39:59
So that matters, right, absolutely, That's what I mean. So
40:02
that's your character, that's your that's that's that's who you're known as boxing.
40:09
Boxing is one of those things where you have to want to do. If
40:14
you're not once again, if you're not marketing yourself, if you're not selling
40:16
yourself, if you're not promoting your fight, and if you're not, you
40:21
know, once again, once you get up there, they'll do it for
40:23
you. But the way, yeah, it's levels to this, right.
40:29
So especially now me. You know when I first started, I started.
40:35
I started boxing at twenty four years old, you know what I'm saying.
40:37
And these kids, these young cats start what I was doing when I was
40:43
playing baseball. They were in the boxing gym, you know what I'm saying,
40:45
And so they're brought up a little bit different my boxing career. I
40:50
actually I started. I went out and in boxing, they have what you
40:57
call the walkout fight to get you comfortable, to to to make sure that
41:04
you that you get used to the lights, that you get used to the
41:07
lighter gloves. You know what I'm saying, Kevin Junia is not growing up
41:12
in boxing. I didn't. I didn't have the benefit to have a walk
41:15
out fight right here in Orlando. Four time state champion, two time national
41:19
champ. They don't want to fight against me, you know what I'm saying.
41:24
And so I didn't really have a whole lot of comfortable fight. So
41:28
I went out and I thought a guy that was four and oh three knockouts
41:31
at the time, and I was oh and oh. I lost the decision,
41:37
and I could have I could have stopped, honestly, because I know
41:40
that once you in boxing, once you lose your O. You lose or
41:45
you lose interest, you know what I'm saying. And so but contrary to
41:50
that, man, we used to we still write back up maybe week you
41:52
know. And now three and one getting ready to fight my biggest fight of
41:58
my career February seventh. Teams that's out in Puerto Rico. Shout it out
42:01
to Miguel Kodo Promotions for the opportunity and yeah, man, so, but
42:07
you definitely is one of those things where it's more than just training for this
42:12
way, more than just training. Yes, it's more than just making music.
42:15
It's more than just doing your craft. It's everything outside of that.
42:20
Got to move to people. Man, got a marketing man, and even
42:22
in bad I said, no matter what you're doing and don't matter it just
42:27
me like I have I get into these projects and I have to motivate the
42:31
team and convince them to trust me and to follow me and let me guide
42:37
them. And I'm like, yo, it's it's more than just like I
42:39
walk off and do my job every day. It's about influencing people to believe
42:45
in you and trust you regardless of what you're doing. And you got to
42:49
make that work or else it's hand in hand. You can't do one without
42:52
successful, one without I think that's my favorite part though, is when you
42:58
when you aren't as successful well as you want to be, but you still
43:01
have a support system to so I'm not done. I can keep We're still
43:07
going. Yeah, that's something we touched on every day. Like we've been
43:09
doing this for two years and we're still to this day thinking of better ways
43:14
to do this and be better, ways to make ourselves better, to bring
43:17
more better quality to what we A'm gonna keep it real with y'all. Man
43:21
Grounded, you stay grounded. I love what y'all do. Y'all keep it
43:25
real, y'all talk real life. That's what this less to. Grounded and
43:32
pounded that into us pause since the beginning, since the beginning, you know,
43:37
And now we're in that marketing and that business mindset. Okay, we
43:42
know what our core is, but we have to do this other stuff.
43:46
Bro. If you want more people to know about Grounded, you definitely you
43:51
know what I'm saying. We gotta we gotta work it everything else we want
43:54
people to know about it. Got you, I gotta work you know what
43:59
I'm saying. Oh I haven't, and God knows my passion is. Like
44:04
I said, God, family in boxing. I'm not complaining. God knows
44:07
I'm not complaining. But when you love it, you got it. You
44:09
know what I'm saying. It's gonna be tough, you know what I mean.
44:12
I've been home probably for two hours today, you know what I'm saying.
44:15
But I came straight from the studio all day. It's not a complain,
44:19
you know what I'm saying. It's just one of those things that if
44:22
I want to be successful, we gotta work. I tell my wife all
44:25
the time. The bills don't stop. Yeah, that's what I like about
44:30
The Bear Show, and that's why I tell everybody to watch. It is
44:34
really, actually, really good The Bear Yeah and uh. Towards the end
44:40
of the second season, the guy who's investing money into his whole project,
44:45
he told them me. He's like, if you're gonna be the fucking guy,
44:49
be the fucking guy. He says, you gotta love this more than
44:52
you love anything, and you got it or else it's not gonna be what
44:58
you feel it is. All that shit is just going out the window if
45:02
you don't love it more than everything else for whatever you're focused on, right
45:07
Yep, yeah, and even just like with me and music, kind of
45:13
going off with what you were just saying, Joe, in the beginning,
45:15
I played the background character too much, you know what I mean, instead
45:20
of, like you said, if you want to be the guy, you
45:22
just got to be the guy, you know what I mean. So at
45:23
a certain point, you got to believe that you're worth people investing their time
45:28
and energy, you know, spend their money on you, and you got
45:30
to show them why. You know that that's what it comes down to.
45:34
You know, you can say it's not for the people all you want,
45:38
but without the people, you're not going nowhere. Fact, And it's something
45:42
that whenever you're like like talking about Mayweather, I mean, you started as
45:46
pretty boy Floyd, then he moved to money Mayweather, you know what I'm
45:51
saying. Then he went into that little villain mode at the end, Like
45:53
he just always evolved his character to make sure that money was coming in.
45:59
But what was he doing. He was backing it up with the fighting.
46:01
He was always humble when he was talking on the mic before and after the
46:06
fight. He was never talking crazy in real life. He was just selling
46:10
fights. And that's the part that people hated that nobody could beat him,
46:15
and they try to discount his style, They try to discount how good of
46:17
a boxer he was. Bro, I know what I saw. That dude
46:21
was not getting hit by anybody. Bro, by anybody. You could say,
46:25
defensive fighter, You can say whatever you want. Bro. When you're
46:30
out there attacking dudes and they not even able to touch you, you're the
46:34
greatest. Bro, You're the greatest. Floyd mastered the game. Because Floyd
46:38
mastered the game in a sense, And shout out to my coach, coach,
46:42
Angus Marshman. Shout out to Corey Marshman. He fights actually this upcoming
46:46
weekend on his own most valuable promotions. But when it comes down to boxing,
46:52
a lot of people think that it's a three minute round, so you
46:54
gotta fight for three minutes. I'm at fault. I'm in. My nickname
47:00
is a gayo, the rooster fight. We fight till the other rooster's dead.
47:06
You know what I'm saying, fight for three minutes straight. I just
47:09
recently found out, man, you don't Floyd didn't exactly like you said.
47:14
Unless he don't. He didn't get touched because he didn't. He wasn't fighting
47:17
the whole time, he was playing chess, not checkers. You know what
47:22
I'm saying. No matter what the people say, nobody is going mass again.
47:28
Nobody will do what Floyd did. So, Kevin, I have a
47:30
question for you. As a professional boxer, and as what we just mentioned
47:35
about Floyd Mayweather and his skillful tactics not only in the ring, but you
47:40
know how he promoted his character. What's your thoughts on the evolution of Jake
47:45
Paul respect? Hmmm, that's my thought from something he started after everybody else
47:53
has started. Respect. But you know what, you know what kind of
47:57
dogged him on. And now as as we talk today and he says some
48:00
things, they they undermine his opponents. But at the same time, those
48:05
big opponents don't want to fight Jake Paul. It does it does nothing for
48:07
them. It's not like he can just pull anybody out of any any any
48:13
kind of deal and just fight him because not a lot of people are gonna
48:15
want to fight him. So you can look at boxing as a big form
48:20
of another form of wrestling. Straight up, it's a show, you know
48:27
what I'm saying. And so at the end of the day, you are
48:29
absolutely right, Like listen, I'll be I'll be the Cat Williams of the
48:36
boxing for twenty Keep it real, bro like like like a lot of people
48:43
are going those o's that you see. You gotta trying to keep out to
48:47
think about who want Damn he's still thirty and oh who's been fighting? You
48:52
know what I'm saying, Like some people, some big guys don't want to
48:55
fight Jake think tank chasing. No, I think they they running from tank.
49:01
They're trying to protect. Yeah, I think that. I think I
49:04
think he wants the real fights. I think real fights. I think Shaker
49:08
Stevenson wants to real fights. Took a lot of them. Well retired.
49:14
I don't believe it. I know that that's that's a big, big,
49:16
big story right now that he retired, retired. The reason because he wants
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to fight that they're not giving him because they're putting you know, not the
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Mexican fighter one thirty champ. He they're kind of throwing other people, you
49:31
know what I'm saying, to fight him, and and people don't want to
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fight back. To answer your question, people don't want to fight Jake Paul
49:37
because he's a big It is all about risk and rewarding, right, right,
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Risk and reward. If you ain't ready to risk it, you ain't
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getting no reward, you ain't making no money. Do you think they're afraid
49:49
of him that maybe this guy can knock me out? Yes? Yeah,
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they know he's in the gym. Bro. Maybe they just didn't think we're
49:57
not gonna sell got gotta had a nice love, right, Bro? And
50:01
he's in the gym boxer, real boxers. Bro. He's not in there
50:06
every day, Bro, He's in there here when nobody says, look,
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check this out, feel us Like when it comes down to it, I
50:13
know that his first few fights were against MMA fighters, but listen to what
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I'm saying. They were against MMA fighters. Come on, they fight,
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bro, like he for him to say, for him to risk and reward.
50:27
The fact that he has one loss, and the one loss was he
50:29
lost to was by you know what I'm saying, by period. It was
50:31
really by decision. But he could have really you know what I'm saying,
50:37
I really respect the J. Paul Man because, like I said to Number
50:44
one, to do what he's doing with the game is something that nobody really
50:47
at first, I'm like, hold on, this YouTuber, what you mean
50:51
ye? Like he's actually living what he's talking like, he's not just he
50:54
moved his whole camp to Porto Rico, one of them. You know what
50:58
I'm saying, Like like we really they're gonna train boxing. He lives,
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breathing, you know what I'm saying. He lives. Shout out to his
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brother too for for doing the same thing in wrestling. You know more man,
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that's dope. Yeah, yeah, you know con that's yeah, that's
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a little nuts, that's yeah. But I respect that response, man,
51:20
because a lot of people, you know, they kind of take the Yeah
51:23
they hate. They love to hate him, you know what I mean.
51:25
And I mean I ain't gonna lie. Like the first couple of fights,
51:28
I kind of was like it's a joke, but like I mean, he
51:30
ate fights in now you know what I'm saying, Like and what what what?
51:35
What up and coming or what pro fighter or what? Guy you know
51:38
that runs his own promotion runs himself? Yeah fighters, Now he's bros.
51:46
He signed a man of Soronto. Yeah I love her. He signed crazy,
51:52
that's crazy her more money than any top ring fight, any other promotion.
51:57
Like he was crazy for her and now he's signing up the fighters.
52:00
We have to tell by you were supposed to fight that night in Orlando.
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Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, he was supposed to fight the man
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A Soroundo. Yeah. I follow Toronto Sisters are dope, man. Yeah.
52:10
I've been blessed. Three of my fights, actually two out of the
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three of my fights were on the Jake Paul Most Valuable Promotions under card.
52:21
Oh wow, So Kariba Royal is blowing up. That's what krebs on.
52:25
I drive right, where's that by? That's Karba. It's right off of
52:30
and actually is uh you know Universal. Yeah, it's over by the Parks
52:34
bro So Kariba Royal they're hosting all these crazy fights now. They have it's
52:40
called Stadium Club, which is like a casino, uh sportsbook style bar to
52:45
watch the games with like one hundred TVs big bar. It's like a mini
52:51
it's like a mini Miami Live. Yeah. All the big fights are being
52:57
hosted there. The Jake Paul fight, was it already happened? Paul was
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there? It just happened, right, Yeah, yeah, it was there.
53:02
I saw that exactly where it went down. That's crazy. They got
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it. They got that's where. Yeah, that's where. That's where at
53:09
the Koreebay and now they got a whole like Most Valuable Promotions, which is
53:15
Jakes Paul's company. They they they're running with with boxing and they're running with
53:21
the game right now. They're signing fighters left and right. They're on their
53:23
mystic man early. You know, you know what, if you think about
53:28
it, that's what he's on, in fact, self Promotions, And he's
53:30
talked about it from the beginning about how boxers ain't getting paid what they're supposed
53:35
to get paid, how the boxing game is kind of full of ship,
53:37
and he's bro he's putting his money where his mouth is. That's why I
53:42
respect him, to be honest with you, coming from a coming from a
53:45
guy that started late as well, I know how difficult it is, you
53:47
know what I'm saying, So respect respect. So what about this fight that
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you got coming up? What's kind of like the story behind that, the
53:55
details? How can people go and watch it? So? This is it's
54:00
about it's been, it's time, it's been time coming, man, This
54:02
one's this one's written. It's a matter of me doing what I gotta do,
54:07
control what I can control, and God knows, I'm on. I
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called this one. I've been looking for a fight like this one. This
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guy is a four and oh he's he's just the main event of the night,
54:21
my first sixth rounder, six round fight. And it isn't is in
54:25
Puerto Rico, his hometown. Where is it a not a hito nothito right
54:30
outside? It's about ten minutes outside of where I'm from. So he thinks
54:34
this is his homecoming. But you know, I got I got, I
54:37
got mad, I got mad support truly blessed. So at three and one,
54:44
my coach and I we always said, like I said, like we
54:45
always said. Once we once we get on the winning side of things and
54:51
were ready to rock and roll, We're gonna go get, go, go
54:52
chase after the bigger names. I'm thirty one, man, I'm thirty one,
54:58
so and I'm not saying that I'm old, but I'm I'm I'm I'm
55:00
gonna I'm at the prime of where I'm gonna be, and so I don't
55:05
want to do this boxing thing forever, right, and so now it's the
55:08
time to start getting going after the bigger names. And bigger names are gonna
55:13
get me to bigger places. And so this guy is definitely gonna be streamed.
55:16
Might it's gonna be definitely be streamed on Miguel Quoto Promotions on Facebook and
55:22
their and their their page. As far as like the TV, I don't
55:25
know where. You know what I'm saying, yea quote Big Orlando guys.
55:29
I saw him at Cooper's Hawk when we went for like random dinner when he
55:32
was there with his family. So the guy in fighting is there one of
55:36
their prospects. Funny story is actually his nephew. Well yeah, yeah,
55:40
yeah, yeah yeah. So business yeah, so coach, your coach,
55:46
this is it. You know what I'm saying. We got the opportunity.
55:50
I always Quoto, that was my favorite fight with going yeah, watching and
55:54
everybody's heyed it, and everybody knows I can enjoyed Mayweather just just because it
56:00
was a gym. Mayweather has been my favorite boxing my whole life, and
56:05
everybody say it, to the point where I started business side of it.
56:07
I used to hold fight nights and make T shirts for everybody, have them
56:12
buy T shirts off me, have them put money in because I knew every
56:16
single fight he was gonna win and I tell him and it was because that
56:21
was like when he had this six year contract with its showtime to finish it
56:24
off. I said, I bet on this guy for three years in a
56:27
row, two times a year, every May and every September, and I've
56:30
won every time. And you don't get that out of a lot of people
56:35
don't. But mcgul koto definitely was one of my favorite fighters to watch and
56:40
the fight between them was one of my favorite matchups that I ever seen them
56:44
with. Yeah, that was a good, big, big mcgul coto fan.
56:46
It's crazy, yeah, man, Shout out to him, Shout out
56:50
to Shout out to the promotions company, Shout out to Gonzo Gonzolo Gonzalo Sapia
56:54
with box like he actually was to connect to the promoter in Puerto Rico.
57:00
Say hey, this guy, he's the rock and rolls. Make it happen.
57:02
Unfortunately, Man, I'm ready to come to fight, because you know,
57:07
I was out in Vegas every fight he had here. I'm ready to
57:09
go to fight. So if the next one in Puerto Rico might have to
57:12
make a Puerto Rico trip, listen, man, God knows, I've been
57:15
blessed. Man, I've been blessed. We we got, we got,
57:16
we got people coming to the island. You know, that's actually what I
57:21
was doing earlier today is you know, you know getting those shirts made.
57:23
So got a lot of support, man, I got a lot of support.
57:27
Like I said, I'm doing what I can on my side, controlling
57:30
my effort, controlling my energy, waits on point, feeling solid, you
57:35
know, the rock baby nice. So as we kind of wind down,
57:39
I had a kind of left field question for you. How do you feel
57:43
about m M A And is this something you've thought about dipping your toeing or
57:45
you straight boxing. It's it's an it's a it's a whole nother art.
57:52
Yeah, it's an art. So it's like learning. It's like, okay,
57:55
that's what you you an artist? Remember when you went from maybe the
58:00
piano to the guitar, from rapping and singing for him whatever? It Maybe
58:06
it's like a whole different r So it might be what I have I been
58:09
interested, yes, but I also be honest with you, I don't got
58:15
patience for all that hugging ship. That's like I don't got get up people
58:25
for you know, rolling around the ground and all respect to all you know
58:32
what I'm saying, just as bathroom that that's the that's that's the w Yeah,
58:42
I mean they be doing their thing. I'm not trying to be little
58:44
be little it at all. But you you've seen the dudes that they like
58:46
growing, they back like a dead beatle like wanting to fight starts you know
58:51
what I mean? Come on, come on, just jump, come back
58:55
man. What's the movie with uh with Michael Blackson man where he lit uh?
59:05
Where he starts saying you want to fight? And he starts he started
59:07
doing the you know what I'm saying, Oh, yeah, you know what
59:13
I'm talking about, like, oh, you want to fight? Oh do
59:14
you want to fight me? Repo? I think it's yes, yeah,
59:22
yeah, that's funny as hell. Oh my god, if anybody drops his
59:24
ground in the Beatle pos on me, I'm walking over. Yeah, he
59:28
got it. You got it. They don't break you, they break you
59:30
real quick. I got you know, I got, I got. I
59:34
got one of my one of the families I work with. Their three daughters.
59:37
They all do jiu jitsu and they're oldest. She's only twelve, thirteen
59:44
years old. But she'll bro she'll break my arm. And you know what
59:46
I'm saying, like respect, you know what I'm saying. Nothing against them,
59:51
It's just not something that probably yeah, I good. But yeah,
59:55
man, you got anything else you want to leave the people with, like
59:59
the date of the fight, any other stuff you got going on, any
1:00:02
social media or anything like that. Listen, man, date of the fight
1:00:07
February seventeenth. If you guys want to check us out on check us out.
1:00:10
Check out our Instagram is Kevin a Gayo nun yez. Check out our
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Mayweather page Mayweather Fiddo Vito best workouts in your life. Shout out to that
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gym for sure that we get it in. We definitely get it in.
1:00:25
But if I leave anybody with any message, I'm always gonna leave you with
1:00:30
God first, no matter what we do, God first, family second,
1:00:35
and whatever your passion may be, let that follow. But if you don't
1:00:39
have God first, and you don't put the people you love in that circle,
1:00:45
it's not gonna be the same, you know. So that's what I
1:00:49
always like to leave people with. I feel that man and man going in
1:00:53
that same spirit. Bro. The only thing that I only care about is
1:00:57
staying butter and act, act and apt at, not put, not not
1:02:36
buy, not not not not not not acting