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(Chats 9-30-26) Epic Q&A, CA-16 Secrets, and Fighting Federal Management · Breaking OWCP with Chris & Gini

• 0:03
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to the Breaking O WCP Podcast.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_00: Join Chris and Jeannie as they bring you expert advice on Federal Workers Comp, guiding you step by step to get back to work the right way.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_00: Let's break down the barriers and get you the help you deserve.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_04: Hey everybody, welcome to Wednesday night OWCP Chats with Chris and Jeannie.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: If you want to know what's on our hat, so do I.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_01: How's everybody doing tonight?
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_04: What's on my hat?
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I rented this hooker.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm high priced.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_04: How's everybody doing?
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_04: We sorry we missed last week.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_04: We were actually traveling, and it was a fun, a little different type of travel.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_01: It was different.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_01: It was uh, you know, it's funny.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: I grew up in the country.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_01: If you know me, you you in the town I grew up in, you grew up in it too.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, it was barely big enough for the both of us.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: And uh so this kind of reminded me of that, but it was just wet and cold, which cold doesn't matter to us because we live half our year in Utah, anyways, but uh RVs turns out she's not a big fan of RVs.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_04: No, I will never, ever, ever go camping in an RV.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_04: I don't care who asks me to go camping, I will never step foot in an RV again.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_01: All it did is make me decide which RV I want the most.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: So that'd be the difference between the two of us, but not these ones.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_01: Right, different RVs, those are the ones I want.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: So, anyways, has her one tonight?
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_04: Um, this was a 38-foot RV that had two bathrooms.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was too big for me.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't need it that big.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_01: For her is too small.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, why don't we have so much space?
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_04: No, I'm sorry.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_04: I'm a little I I'm gonna say it, I'm a little high maintenance when it comes to staying in a place, and I'm never staying in an RV.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: She's only that's the only way she's high maintenance, by the way.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: Not any other possible way.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_04: I can't.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_04: I just I can't.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry, I can't.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_04: Not high maintenance at all.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_04: Otherwise, I'm not.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_01: Anyways, we have a great topic for you tonight.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's the no topic.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_01: It is QA, you ask, we answer, but I've got some cool questions that I'm gonna ask you to get you started because we often have sort of a lull in the beginning.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, like, I don't know what questions to ask or like in Taladay good nights.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what to do with my hands.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you're all gonna know what to do with your hands tonight because I'm gonna give you some uh some questions to think about.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_01: Maria, baseball tonight?
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what you mean, but if we're trying to if we're supposed to be playing baseball together, Maria, I'm in.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: Maria, I love baseball.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yankees.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, you're talking about if you're talking about baseball, let's go with the Yankees.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: She's probably not talking about the Yankees.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_04: I think you're from Massachusetts, right?
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she's for sure not talking about the Yankees.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_04: It's okay.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_04: Our partners are from there.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_01: Are you at the game tonight?
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_01: Because if you're watching us from the game live, that's like next level awesome.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_04: That's so cute.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: Take a selfie and send it to us.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_01: That'd be awesome.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_04: I'm just sharing real quick.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_04: Linda, Linda, you had surgery.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_04: How are you feeling?
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Amy J, hello.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_04: How is everybody doing tonight?
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so everybody's kind of jumping on solely.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was saying, this is QA.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: And um, so surely you've got some questions that we can answer.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_01: If you've got friends that have questions and they don't know we're here, you should right now just let them know.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, share this.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_01: You can type the at sign and their name, and then they'll get a they'll get a notification.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and their Facebook.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_04: Just said go Yankees.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_04: John Reverend said Cardinals.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_04: John, how are you doing, buddy?
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_04: What's up?
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yep, he goes not camping.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: Not camping.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_01: Jerry.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_01: Hello, Jerry.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_04: All right, let me just hop over back to this page so I can start sharing from chat.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_01: Look at this.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_01: Most of our favorite people jumped on right away.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for that.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_01: That is amazing.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_04: Awesome.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_01: Let me just give you just a there's gotta be some system so we can do the sharing in advance.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_01: You can't.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: This sharing midstream, it's like this lull in the sound, and it makes Chris have to find words to talk about.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_01: Frank.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so let's talk about our OWCP tour.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_04: So the first one, and I know what you guys are gonna say.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_04: Why aren't you coming here?
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_04: So we've had the most response out of Utah.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_04: We will be going to St.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_04: George, Utah.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_04: So wherever you are in Utah or Vegas or Arizona, because from Vegas it's an hour and a half.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_04: From Arizona, it's about an hour and a half, or maybe an hour.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_01: Certain parts of Arizona.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_04: Like at the border.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_04: You know, when you're on I-15, those of you that are in Arizona to get to St.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_04: George.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_04: So we'll be going there on October.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_04: What's that say?
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_04: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_04: We have a calendar over here.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_04: We have it, it will be October.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_04: November.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_04: November 5th is when we're gonna be in St.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_04: George.
• 5:04
  unknown: Oh.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_04: And we are going to be in Springfield, Massachusetts on October 22nd.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_04: So if you didn't see our flyer, I will be posting it a couple times a week just so everybody can see it.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so we will be at the Courtyard Marriott in Springfield or Springfield Courtyard Marriott on October 22nd.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_04: And this is open.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_04: Any of our tour dates are open to every and all and any federal employee.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_01: Every all, any, all unions, all agencies, all crafts, all human beings with a pulse and respiration who are federal employees are welcome at these events.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna teach like I've never taught before.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_01: I'm really excited about it, and I'm looking forward to having multiple crafts in the room because the questions are always interesting based on what you do for you know for work.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_04: So we're gonna, and if you're an AFGE, if you're with the USPS, if you're with FLIOA, if you're with NAGE, if you're with NAFI, anybody that's in those areas is welcome to come.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_04: You don't have to pay for anything.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_04: Food, uh apps, and little drinks will be provided, and Chris and I are gonna be there, and we can't wait to meet so many of you.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_04: And those of you that are gonna be going to the Springfield, Massachusetts, we know if you're in Connecticut or Rhode Island or probably bordering New York or Pennsylvania, you are welcome to come to this as well.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_04: There is an RSVP, and the only reason we have an RSVP is only because we just want to make sure you guys have enough food while we do our two-hour training.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_04: So we are going to be telling you guys about these two trainings over and over and over till we see all of you there.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: And Maria from Auburn and Springfield are on is on, and uh, she's excited.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, you can't wait to see us, Maria.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, we can't wait to see you to see you.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_04: Let's see what we got here.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_04: Right, you said that.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_04: No, Maria, I have not heard of that.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_04: That's weird.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_04: I've never heard of them.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_04: Frank.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_04: Whoops, whoops.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_04: Let's see.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_04: Norax!
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: How are you, Linda Lee?
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: Haven't watched in a while.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_01: Excited to be here.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm excited that you're here.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_01: This is gonna be a good night, Linda.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_04: Tenora from Portland.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_04: Tenora, you know, we were just in Idaho and Washington.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_01: Not Portland.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_01: I checked.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_01: I checked when I was there.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_04: We we were kind of close, but one of our sons actually had to stop at Portland to go back home.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he did.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_04: All right, so again, tonight is QA.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_04: You ask, we answer, and you know, if we're gonna stump the chump right here, it's tonight.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_04: We stump the chumper.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's not gonna happen, but I'm wishing you all luck.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the worst of luck because I don't get stumped.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: The only way to stump me is to ask me a question about like astrophysics, but then I'm probably just gonna call my buddy Elon and get the answer.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, uh still not getting stumped.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_04: Did you say astrophysics?
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's the only way you're gonna stump me, but I'll call a lifeline.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but as far as OWCP goes, it's probably not gonna happen.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_01: Earlier, um, we posted just a short little video clip of me asking you that if you could go back to the day you got hurt and tell yourself one thing about OWCP, what would it be?
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_01: And we got lots of comments, and um uh so I think we're gonna read those comments.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, one of you has comments that made me wish you didn't have those comments, but I heard you and we're doing something about it.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: You know who you are, and we're doing something about it.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but the rest of the comments about you know, I wish I would have known federal injury centers agreed.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: I wish you would have too.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's always better if you have the answers you need up front, which is why you're here, which is why you should tell your friends to come and hang out with us, because I always say it's better to have the answers and not need them than to need them and not have them.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_01: And um, right now, everyone has an opportunity to, you know, get the answers you need.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_01: So, whatever problems you're having tonight, I want you to bring your questions and I'm gonna answer it so you don't have that same problem tomorrow.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but again, put the at sign in your friend's name.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, that way your friends who need to see this will know that we're out here.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: You can send them a text, uh, send them an email if you have to get away from this and go call them, come on back.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: We're still gonna be here.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but there's an opportunity here for us to be able to help people.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, those of you that are not new here, you know this is not a sales show.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, even though we own federal injury centers, you don't have to go to federal injury centers to be here.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: Go wherever you want to go, we don't care.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: We're here to answer your questions tonight.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_01: So uh whoever needs help, bring them on.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: I want to be able to help tonight.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Miss Kisa.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, let me tell you guys something.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_04: If you are in another state and you choose to go to a federal injury center, or if there is no other location for you to go to, you are welcome to cross state lines and go to any office.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_04: You can do that.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_04: You can do that.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_04: That doesn't that doesn't hurt you.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: If you live in Alaska, you there's no rule against you flying to Florida.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: And that's as extreme as I can make it.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_04: So you can fly anywhere.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_04: It's it's federal travel.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: They do not have to pay for your travel, but there's no rule against it.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_04: So it doesn't matter what state you're in, you can travel across state lines for federal work comp so that you know that.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: So pull those questions up.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_04: I'm just gonna go through some of these or the comments.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_04: Some of them were funny, some of them were like, whoa, some of them were like, okay.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_01: And by the way, I'm coughing still a little bit.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's only been five weeks, so it's probably not soon enough for it to be gone yet.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's ridiculous.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: Not COVID, not the flu.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: It just won't stop.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: Is anybody else dealing with this?
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_04: It's going around.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_04: So if you guys saw the reel that I posted, I had Chris do a little one-minute what would you do differently?
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_04: Um, okay, so here's here's some.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_04: Report it.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_04: That's a really good one.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, report it.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_04: A lot of you have are so scared that you don't wind up reporting.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_01: And the reason the reason you're not reporting it is A, you don't know how management.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um that's A and B.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's the reason you're not reporting it.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: But trust me, you have every right to do it.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: Management has no right to prevent it.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_05: Correct.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_01: And it's actually a crime for them to try to prevent it and to penalize you in any way.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so you don't have to worry, but you do have to report it on time so you don't lose valuable benefits like the CA 16 and COP.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_04: Don't be like the carrier that didn't call the wrecker or ambulance.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_04: Don't use your insurance for work injuries.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_04: She is absolutely correct.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_04: Do not work use your health insurance on this.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_04: It's going to be a little mess.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: And the wrecker and ambulance means somebody got into a wreck, and the third party injuries are also covered like a CA1 is covered because it's a CA1.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you don't use your own insurance, you file with OWCP, you uh, you know, pursue the third party, as they say.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_01: And the third party pays, you split the money 80-20 with OWCP, and you go about your business for the rest of your life.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_04: Uh would report by the end of shift and demand a CA 16.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_04: We talk about this all the time.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_04: Carmen Salazar.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_01: Carmen, exactly right.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_01: I always say the soonest possible time to do anything is now.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: In this case, reporting right away.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_01: Reporting now is the key because it stops the timelines on the benefits that you're going to lose.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_01: So report it now.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: That was that was brilliant, actually.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_04: Uh sue all third parties.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because uh it's not your responsibility, it's not your car, even if it is, it's uh even if you're a rural carrier and it is your car.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's still the government's responsibility to take care of third-party injuries.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_04: If I could go back to the first day I got injured, I would have looked up and called federal injury centers.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_04: What I know now by calling them for my accepted injuries, they stared me in the right direction.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_04: I gave them my case number for my accepted condition and got me in for PT right physical therapy right away.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_04: Federal injury centers also gave me information to see a specialist for my condition, no out-of-pocket expenses.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_04: They do all the thank you, Chris and Jeannie, for all your help.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_04: I am very grateful for what you do for us, Darlene.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_04: Aw, darling, thank you.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_01: And by the way, that was not a fade, uh, a paid advertisement for federal injury centers, but that is generally speaking how it works.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, if you go to FIC, are there some outliers where they need to get slapped around and trained?
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: Of course.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_01: Of course.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we have to constantly retrain um our offices.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_01: That's just necessary.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_01: Any business has to retrain all the time.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_04: Not to be scared, communicate with everyone.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_04: Call FIC, then call your congressman, then call your supervisor, then ask a friend for help keeping up.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_04: Breathe, go to all your PT, make sure they get all your codes.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_04: And then Jerry responded, yes, most of them don't realize the importance of having all codes and that they are correct.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I love calling the congressperson because that is powerful.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: It all it works almost every single time.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_01: And by the way, I'm not worried about us blowing up their offices.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: We pay their their salaries.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's taxable, you know, our taxes pay them.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: And it's their job.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: You know, their job is to oversee the federal agencies, one of those being Department of Labor.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: You know, one of those being your your particular agency.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: And so if your agency is not playing nice, somebody's gonna make them do it.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: I love calling Congress people because it doesn't matter what side of the aisle they're on, it almost always works.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_04: Well, okay, this is a long one, so please bear with me, but I want we are gonna answer this one.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_04: Patty, I'm almost at the end of the two years, have not been able to get anywhere.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_04: Even the union finally said they did not think they could help me with my broken hip, fractured sacrum.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_04: I need another knee replacement.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_04: They've done two on the right.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_04: Now they need to take the button off of it because the hip, which was on the left side, is now taller.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_04: And makes the right of an angle.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_04: They never I haven't been able to take parcels to the door, is which the only thing I am not doing.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_04: I'm actually getting ready to tie out, deliver the smalls, but cannot walk right to the door.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_04: I've decided I don't know where to go.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_04: Listen to this part.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_04: This is what I'm wow.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, I am 81 years old.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_04: That's amazing.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_04: I show up for work every day.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_04: I have perfect attendance for many years, 38 years of service, and now I'm nobody, nobody cares.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_04: The person who caused this accident is now a postmaster.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_04: Go figure.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_04: I finally got through the postmaster's head.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_04: I think my route was never frozen, according to her.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_04: She did not know I have mentioned it many times to the supervisors.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_04: I did not tell them that I have a month and a half left before before I possibly lose my route if I can't get back to full duty.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_04: And that I would have to file charges, which I have been very hesitant to do because I do not like the supervisor and postmaster, but obviously they don't care, so I need to step up.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_04: I hope it's not too late.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_04: I have not hit a check from OWCP since March 22nd, 2025, and I'm getting eight hours a day.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_04: I made my own agreement with the office, which was to do the route the way I'm doing it.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm paid for eight hours a day.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_04: My route should have been frozen at 6.10, 10.6 hours a day.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_04: I reached my peak.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_04: I was a 68-hour router, so much wasn't done while I was gone, which was about five months.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_04: I came back in March 22nd to 10.25 hours a day.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_04: Hardest thing I ever did in my life.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_04: I could barely walk, but I did it.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_04: There is no fairness in this system, no real help.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_04: I'm finding when your union tells the stewards that they are not allowed to help you to get on OWCP.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_04: That's how bad now.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_04: Almost two years later, they're admitting that was the day I got screwed by the doctor, was decertified, not because of me, because of somebody else I didn't have anything to do with.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_04: That's something I would not want to have on my shoulders or in my brain or in my heart.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_04: Even if I just don't want to leave the Postal Service, somebody who gave me love and devotion to this job for 38 years.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_04: A union steward of 30 years, but now the brain does have problems, so there's no backup for me.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_04: I sure hope that just my story alone helps others to keep on trucking and don't let anybody get away with not helping you.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_04: I'm pretty widely known in the postal circle.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_04: I have attended 35 national conventions, employee of the year in 2017, and term reasonable accommodation.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_04: Comes out of my case in 2021.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_04: I was a much smarter person, then not so smart.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_04: Now I don't want anybody to stop fighting for their case.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_04: Read this, maybe it'll spark something in yourself to get a hold of whoever you can to get help.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_04: It's not too late.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_04: It's late for me.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_04: If you, what was your name again?
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_04: I believe it was Patty.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_04: Patty, after this live, go ahead and message me privately.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_04: I want to hear more about your situation and see if there's any way that we can still help you.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what I took from that is that um, you know, two years, it's a role carrier.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I knew that just by the two years.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: And this is not bad mouthing the role carrier.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: And to never give up.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, don't don't allow supervisors to dominate.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: And they're gonna try, you know, it's just it's what they do.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: But the rules apply to every agency and every craft equally.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: And so uh what a role carrier can do is the same as a city carrier, a clerk, a metal handler, a VA nurse, a TSA officer.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you all have the same rules, and so it's better that you understand what your rights and responsibilities are under OWCP and what management's rights and responsibilities are um, but again, I'll just say for the unions, uh it's your responsibility to fight for these folks.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: I if I could do it, I would no kidding.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_01: I think if I could just create a union, I would do that.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: Because when I found out that you all needed doctors, what did I do?
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: I created a company.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the largest federal workers' comp company ever.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: If I just thought, you know, I could just make a union that would that would now I'm not gonna be able to sleep now that I had this idea.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: Don't say it.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's just everyone needs that kind of help.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the kind of help that Victor gives and Ian and Rob and you know, Jerry, like just this is what this is the help you need.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: So, anyways, it sounded like you didn't get the help you needed, and now you're well, you're all the way in it.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_04: You know, when we first started doing this, I'd say like year three, our lives, there would be about a couple hundred of you on there.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_04: And I know it cycles, people come to us, they go to the offices, and then they get help and they move on.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_04: We do hope that those of you that have been through the process with us almost 11 years ago, that you're able now, with all the education that we're doing to help other people.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_04: And this is, I'm telling you, this is I don't care what anybody says because I live on social media, that's my job as a national marketer, to find you guys and help you guys.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_04: We are the only two people on social media platforms that do what we do.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_04: We probably across all of our social media pages, we have about 40,000 following, but you have to tell your friends.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_04: We're not telling you to tell your friends just to come because we want to be known.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_04: We're telling you guys this because of these questions and answers that you guys are saying, because you don't know.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_04: I had somebody message me today, said she has no clue what to do.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_04: Her union steward doesn't help her, and her union president said he knows nothing about OWCP, which we know is true.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_04: There are some of them that don't know.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_04: This is why you tell your friends to come here, this is why you click the follow button.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_04: You either come on Facebook or YouTube, whatever.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_04: But this is why we do what we do because of these questions you guys have.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: But hey, there is somebody out there trying to do it, but they're using AI to build their platform.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's not so whereas like AI informs them, I inform AI.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, exactly.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: AI calls me to ask about OWCP.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_04: I I know you guys are doing questions there.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_04: I just want to get through these.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna get to all these.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna get to all of them.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: So hang in there.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_04: This is back to the reel that Chris was on on Facebook.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_04: Uh Becky Bridges, seek federal injury clinic that knows OWCP.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's a fact because there are six categories of doctors that'll get your claim denied.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's all the categories you can think of.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: The only ones that are consistently gonna get claims approved are trained OWCP offices.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't say.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Federal injury centers, and that didn't say federal injury centers.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: It said a federal injury clinic, right?
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: And that's exactly right.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: Anybody who knows how to get a claim approved, that's the doctor you're looking for.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, Sarah, I would have quit my job.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_04: I would have not filed workers' comp.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_04: It has completely failed me.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_04: My union has completely failed me.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_04: I would have not gotten a lawyer for a schedule award.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_04: That was a joke and a waste of three years of my life.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_04: But if you're going to fight it, I do recommend getting a federal attorney that doesn't get paid until you do, because there is some relief and knowing that a lawyer knows what to do next.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_04: At least they're not clueless.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_04: That alone will help keep you off anxiety medication.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I agree with that.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: And unfortunately, um, federal lawyers are not allowed to take a percentage.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like, so like waiting till the end, they have to charge an hourly rate, which is insane.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: But whatever, I always say OWCP is not spelled F-A-I-R, and that's one of the things.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: But at Federal Injury Centers, we're able to work for free as long as we want, okay?
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: Which is until we get a claim accepted.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: Which is interesting because now I've I've seen a couple of uh denials where a claims examiner in the denial reference, well, it's a federal injury center's doctor, anyways, and all they do is get claims accepted.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_04: How stupid is that?
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_04: Hello.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, yeah, that's what we do.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_01: What do you want?
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: Look, here's this is what they want our narratives to say we give up.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's never gonna happen.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's exactly what DLO is.
• 23:27
  unknown: Yep.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: So we're just gonna keep coming.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_04: All right, two more here.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_04: Linda, research doctors.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_04: If it's a CA2, you can explore.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_04: I wasted so much time with the first doctor who was incompetent in OWCP ways.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you gotta find the right one that's trained.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know, when you call a when you call a doctor, the first thing you should do is say to the receptionist, do you take OWCP?
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: And if the receptionist goes, huh?
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: That might be a clue for the rest of the office.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: It might be.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, Jerry, get a CA 16, take it to the doctor, make sure doctors list all injuries and correct diagnosis codes.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: Up front, because if you start doing diagnosis expansions, they start doing second opinion visits.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_01: And second opinion visits, generally speaking, hose cases.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_04: Oh wow, you guys are woo.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, let's see.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_04: Let me go back from here where I can see.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_04: All right, Tenora, when hurt, when you got when you get hurt, sit and write down everything, every single detail, print a word document and carry it with you everywhere.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_04: That is exactly right.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_01: I it's called a personal statement.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: And it's one of the key things that people do wrong.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, when they get an injury, they don't write down everything that happened.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: Well, once you write down everything that happened, then you take it to your doctor and you say, Hey, doc, make sure every bit of this is in your narrative report because nobody knows better about what happened to me than me.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, um, I don't want to butcher the name.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_04: So, Adeline, it's a very pretty name.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_04: DOL called me today and told me I could use my health insurance since they are struggling to provide a neurologist doctor's appointment.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_04: Um I'm surprised they said that.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, you can, but now there's a form called an OWCP 915, and that's a claim for reimbursement.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: So that way the money that you pay out of pocket you can get back.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: So remember to keep that.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: And also, uh, assuming that OWCP gave you that in writing, attach that to your 915 so you get reimbursed.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_04: Weldon, follow up on records you send or upload to eComp.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_04: Don't trust the agency to be honest.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry to say he's right.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: And that's right, and it's your life and it's your e-comp account.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: So always make sure everything is uploaded right.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: That's a good one, Weldon.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_04: Terreras, Terreras Mims, O W C P for Sexual Assault.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, listen.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, no, it's I hope it's Taras, but Torres.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: I was just reading a lot about this.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh not not because I know anybody that's happened to.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately, I I know that it does.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_01: But there are ECAB decisions that are about this that are in the favor of the person this happened to.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: So if ever you struggle getting a claim accepted, just know that ECAB decisions are like the precedent for future cases, and there is precedent to get these claims approved.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: These supervisors are in so many, so many times are so out of line, and um, they deserve to get slapped around.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_04: Uh Sheila.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: When that happens, not all supervisors, but when that happens.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_04: Sheila, my doctor's refusing to add a consequential injury, and yes, getting Congress involved can give you some freedom back.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it can.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the uh head of the uh district, wherever an OWCP, the claim examiners, they don't want to deal with Congress.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, oh no, I'm about to be in trouble.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't do my job, and two people below me didn't do their job.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: So they don't want to deal with this.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: That's why it's so powerful.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_04: Maria, that is true.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_04: I never had the kind of help I received at Federal Injury Centers thankful for them.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, Maria.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: Thankful for you.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm glad that all worked out for you.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_04: Federal injury centers of Melbourne, Florida.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: What's up, Dave Mercedes?
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_04: So many employees feel that after 10 to 20 years of giving their body to their work, their current pain is because they are just getting older.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_04: No, your shoulder, your wrist, your knee, back, or neck pain is from your job.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_04: Not because you're getting older, fill out your CA2s.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_04: He's right.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_04: He's right.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, you're getting older, yes, but it is no that doing the job that you guys do in all the different crafts between AFGE and USPS, that's crazy.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_04: We spoke to a professional, was he a football player?
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_04: He said he would never do this job.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_04: He'd rather play football.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_04: And look at what the how they get beat up.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: And anyways, it doesn't matter.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_01: Look, we all get older.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: And um there's nothing in the rules that says if you got injured and it's partially because you got older, it's not covered.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_05: Correct.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: That ain't how it works.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, you're covered no matter what.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, where are we all?
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_04: Sheila.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_04: Also, if anyone knows how to get USPS to get my Form 50 and TSP 41 updated, please let me know.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_04: TSP is in default status because they haven't received my TSP 41.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so listen, there are USPS employees here, there are uh union stewards here.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, please respond to that and help her out.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_04: All right, hold on.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_04: There's a few long ones here.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna read them.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_04: Dina, hello.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: Hello, Dina.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_04: Ronaldo.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_04: Ronaldo.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_04: I'm a career USPS employee with an accepted work-related cervical spine injury that required major surgery and has left me with significant limitations in the neck movement.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_04: My current duty station is approximately one hour and 20 minutes from my home each way.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_04: My physician documented on my CA 17 that prolonged driving significantly aggravates my cervical condition due to my stricted neck, motion, pain, and related symptoms.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_04: For medical and safety reasons, my physician recommends that I not drive more than approximately 15 to 20 minutes each way.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_04: My question is, when driving, these limitations are medically documented on the CA 17 and directly related to my accepted work injury in USPS?
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, is USPS management required to consider this restriction when determining a suitable work or modified assess assignment in addition to accommodating my physical restrictions while performing my job duties?
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_04: If my current duty location cannot meet the medical documented driving restrictions, what process should management follow to determine whether it's available at a closer USPS facility?
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so yeah, they have to take into account all restrictions that your doctor writes on a CA 17.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: So that includes driving restrictions.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: If you can't drive more than 15 minutes at a time, that's got to be um accounted for.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: As far as uh other locations, you know, on light duty, which is not the same as OWCP limited duty, they're not allowed to put send you more than 50 miles away from your um workstation or your home.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so they shouldn't, you know, they certainly shouldn't send you someplace that's just ridiculous to get to.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: That kind of would seem to me like um, I don't know, retribution for even having an entry.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I think what you should be focused in on is that they've got to find restrictions that you know match your CA 17.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: Regardless of what that is.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_01: Driving, lifting, walking, standing.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it all has to be accounted for.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: And if they can't find it, sadly, you know, a lot of people are just home and they're getting paid because uh management can't find any restrictions for them.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: Or any work that matches their restrictions.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: But definitely driving is part of the deal.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_04: Manda West, hello.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_04: Knee injury here, going on three years, had surgery ever since surgery.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_04: I've had this clicking and ongoing pain on my kneecap.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_04: It's very obviously, it's obviously sitting wrong, two years of PT and nothing.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_04: DOL is threatening to stop all treatment because I've shown no improvement because they keep denying all treatment plans.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_04: Have had multiple images done where they send me and they keep coming back.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_04: Everything is fine.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_04: Yet my PT doctor office said no, it is not my kneecap.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_04: It's sitting that is not sitting right.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_04: I purchased x-ray imaging myself today, and my kneecap is in fact not sitting right.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_04: I requested copies of the other imaging that's been done as I was to compare them.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_04: All my medical team have said no knee is not has said no, my knee is not normal.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_04: I found out today that the imaging place I've been going to, they have AI reading the image and writing the reports.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_04: See, this is why I'm saying AI is normal.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: We do not have an opinion about that.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't matter what she says next.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_01: We don't have an opinion about anything medical.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_04: I'm saying.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_01: No, it doesn't matter.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_01: We're not saying that.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_01: But what we are saying is your doctor needs to write a fantastic narrative report explaining why it is part of the deal.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's what it takes.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know anything about AI imaging, and neither do you or anyone else.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying I don't like that.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_01: There's gonna be a lot of crazy AI stuff coming up, but we don't have medical opinions here.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_01: What we do have is an opinion about how your doctor can fix this.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: And it is by writing a narrative report that in great detail explains it.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's what you need.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_04: Amy Waltz, USPS, on my second reconsideration over 90 days waiting for DOL to decide on an aggravated condition, vertigo, anxiety, and heat intolerance.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_04: Last letter to the doctor asked if I returned to the baseline, answered no, and gave a report.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_04: I have 50 months, 15 months of documentation from a psychiatrist that the conditions got worse after the injury.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_04: I already had expanded my CA1 to include I was even walking and driving all day, even though my manager had a letter in my e-comp file saying she had talked to me and observed me on my route that day.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_04: Manager controverted my COP and Union refused to fight for me because they were incompetent.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_04: Manager wrote a letter to my file saying, I told her that I took medication and the medication made me sick.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_04: I did not say that I have an emergency medication to mitigate the vertigo.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_04: She lied on purpose and has been retaliating against me for over a year.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_04: I won a previous claim with OWCP for the same three conditions.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_04: Regional NALC is helping me with the reconsiderations.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_04: Most federal injury type centers don't seem to be able to handle my issues since they seem invincible and are not orthopedic.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_04: The heat and anxiety and stress trigger the vertigo.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_04: I feel like I need a lawyer or advocate.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_04: I have had dizzy testing that shows normal, it is not BBPV, which is the most common in vertigo.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_04: And to get tested for heat intolerance to document it's more like six places in the country with a four to six month wait list.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_04: The problem is what you said that lawyers have to charge up front.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_04: Can your center help me with the claim for these type of more these type of more individual injuries?
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_04: I filed the CA1 and I have very good documentation from a psychiatrist.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_04: And of course, nobody has heard of or believe heat intolerance exists.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_04: I am detailed and I have submitted ample documents, SOS help.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_01: Don't read the next one yet.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_04: No, I won't.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: So there's the problem is you asked me this, and I think I can fix every claim.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_01: And in my mind right now, I'm thinking, how would I fix this one?
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_01: How would I get this one approved?
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not a doctor, so like all the the stuff that's going on with you, I can't speak to any of that.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_01: But could we help you with that?
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: Could a federal injury center help you with that?
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you're right, we don't specialize in those things.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_01: We're s we're for the most part, we're musculoskeletal, so it's really difficult to specialize in or deal with things that are not our specialty.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_01: Why don't you send us a message, a Facebook message, because I'd like to know more about this.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying no.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'd like to know more about it.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_01: So send us a uh private message on Facebook Messenger, and um let me get into it.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_01: I actually think I could do it.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_01: Don't hold me to it, okay?
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: I've never done one like this, but I heard everything you said, and I think that's a winnable claim.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_04: Tammy, hello my people.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_04: OWCP sucks A Z Z.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_04: Is it my Tammy?
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Tammy.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_04: Chet, hello my family.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_04: Hello, cousin.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_01: But you know what?
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: But Tammy and her son Scott are an example of an impossible case that can be won.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: And so for that last one, I mean, we've won the impossible.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's why I just I can't say no to anything anymore.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_04: Tammy said he said, what I would have done differently, idiot, that charged me each month and didn't help with anything.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_04: I did most of the work.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_04: Never give up.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_04: Took a very long time to get my son's claim accepted, but we did it with the help of federal injury centers.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_04: We are grateful for them, and my son has a very devastating injury for life.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_04: He does.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_04: It's sad.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_01: They really wasted a lot of time with people that weren't really gonna help them.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_04: Did you say to wait?
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_04: Or you just wanted to think about that?
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm I'm I'm passing.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_01: She's gonna send us a message and I'm gonna look into it.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_04: Bo couples.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_04: I'm having an issue with diagnosis expansion.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_04: I think it will affect me in the future with a schedule award if it isn't enough.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_04: What are you pointing at?
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing, just to read again.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_04: MRI.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_04: One, full thickness, rotator cuff tearing involving the critical zone and fibers with slight tendon reaction.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_04: Two, high grade partial thickness, undersurface tearing of the insertion.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_04: Three, trace subcranial, subdilude brasitis.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_04: Four, minimal AC joint DJD.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_04: Five, complex posterior labral tear as described.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_04: Orthopreoperative, preop diagnosis, right shoulder full thick thickness tear, leading edge, sub pubetilus tear.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_01: Let me just pause you.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_01: None of this really means anything to me because I'm not a doctor.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_01: I know these are diagnoses.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um, is there a question at the end of it?
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_01: Because I can't answer anything medical.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: But there, I'll bet you there's something coming out of it.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_04: He's saying he's having he's having an issue with the diagnosis expansion with all of these.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_01: Diagnosis expansions, got it.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_01: So what happens usually is a doctor will say, Oh, you got a shoulder sprain, because I recognize all that as shoulders.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_01: And great, shoulder sprain, boom, approved, because it's easy and it should be over with anytime soon.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_01: And then you get an MRI that shows a devastating injury, which is exactly what you thought it was in the first place.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_01: And now they got to add all these diagnoses to it.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: Now adding the diagnosis is not that actual, not that hard, actually, but they got to take the MRI and they got to say, you know, prior to the injury, none of this was happening.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_01: After the injury, all this was happening.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and then that should get approved.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's just when you have a lot of that stuff going on, it takes extra work.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_01: And a lot of doctors aren't willing to do the extra work to do the diagnosis expansion.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_01: Not to mention that if you don't just diagnose all the right stuff the first time, then when you try to do an expansion, you add all these catastrophic diagnoses to it, then the claim examiner is going to send you to a second opinion doctor who's gonna say this isn't even work-related, and you're just fine.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_01: So doctors need to do all this up front and take their time and don't have to do an expansion later.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's frustrating to me.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_04: Darlene, I need help with Dr.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_04: Watts in D Land, Florida.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe I can send a private message.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_04: Thanks, Federal Injury Centers in Orlando.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_04: They are awesome.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_04: I go there for PT.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_01: You definitely can send us a message.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure I know who that doctor is, but send the message.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: I know who the people in Orlando are.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_04: Amy Waltz, I have considered congressional intervention, but I feel like my case is too complicated that DOL will just give a quick denial to get rid of me.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_04: I have used all of my FMLA for this year.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_01: I don't believe that's true.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think in general they're just going to do a quick denial to get rid of you.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: That all depends on the quality and detail of your uh doctor's medical report.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_04: Roland Ronaldo said they said otherwise and just forwarded to OWCP as a refusal.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_04: They told me it was my responsibility on how to figure out getting to work.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_01: So sadly, that's true.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they say for like the person that you can't drive more than 15 minutes.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it takes me 30 minutes to get to work.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_01: They're saying you can't drive more than 15 minutes for work.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_01: They're not saying you can't drive to work.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta figure it out.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe get an Uber, a taxi, somebody drives you.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_01: Ow C P is not spelled F-A-I-R.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's just how this is.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_04: My hat, my hat says I rented this hooker.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_04: That's what my hat says.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'm high priced.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_04: Sorry.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, this is what I have to live with, okay?
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_01: You wouldn't even believe the numbers of hats and shirts that I have to deal with.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: We were walking around the mall the other day and people are laughing.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, what are they laughing at?
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_01: And she had another shirt, just like that hat with an arrow pointing at me.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I wondered why she was always standing on my left side.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the arrow was pointing that way.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_04: And the shirt, the t-shirt says I rented this hooker.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody else was saying how much it cost.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't get any any offers.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_04: You need that.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_04: What's that t-shirt?
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_01: I guess because I was already out for rent.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_04: Was that t-shirt 20$20 is$20?
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying that.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, everybody's laughing now.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um I don't know why we've just breezed right over Jerry saying that I'm a superhero.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_04: Well, because I didn't get to her comment yet.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you, Jerry.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_04: Amy, also cannot get a straight answer from the union.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_04: Next time I have to call in an ambulance, how do I get the magical CA 16 to cover medical in ER and going forward?
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_04: Of course, I had to use my own insurance.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so look, let's say you need an ambulance, and I pray to God you never do again.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_01: You can get a union steward to go get your 16 for you.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_01: Anybody can act on your behalf.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the other thing is management's required to give it to you the next time you show up.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_01: So you could, you know, be in in two days, they have to give it to you.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_01: The only requirement to get a CA 16, which is a document that pays all your medical bills for the first 60 days after a CA1 injury, the only criteria is that you report within seven days, not that you receive it within seven days.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_01: Something tells me that if you go to the ER in an ambulance, something's getting reported.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: So you did that already.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's over already.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_01: They have to still give you a CA 16.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: Management says, Well, it's been more than seven days, I don't owe it to you.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_01: No, the rule says I have to tell you within seven days.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_01: You didn't the next part of the rule says, and they have to give it to you within four hours of the claimed injury.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_01: So once you tell them, they have four hours to give it to you.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: So after four hours, they didn't give it to you.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_01: On day eight, they can't say, Well, too bad.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: You broke the rule, you know, seven days and twenty hours ago.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_01: Give me my CA 16.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_01: That's how that's done.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_04: Cheryl David, do you know if I have a SF 50 saying I was separated from service but have been on OWCP for 10 years?
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_04: Am I considered an active employee?
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it doesn't sound active because you've been separated, but OWCP doesn't seem to care, which is interesting.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_04: Ronaldo, USPS management can be a bit wild at times.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_04: It's sad when facts are facts and they are just driven to make your life harder than it is.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_04: They have been doing this for to me for 10 years.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I always say to management, it's all fun and games until it's you.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_01: And then I'll go to one of our offices and see a supervisor and they're getting therapy.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like, okay, see what I'm saying?
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's all fun and games until it's you.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_01: When they need it, they don't want anybody giving them a hard time.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_01: But when you need it, they make it awful for you.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I have to help everyone, which means I have to help management.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_01: I have to help IRS agents.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: I love you, IRS agents.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_01: I love you so much.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, we have to do what we have to do no matter what.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: But with supervisors, I'm like, look, stop giving everyone such a hard time.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_01: It will be you one day.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_01: How do I know it'll be you one day?
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_01: Because you do a hard job too.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_01: Eventually it happens.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_01: And then what?
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_04: Jerry, Chris Helms is a superhero.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_04: I think he can do it.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_04: I love you, Jerry.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you for saying that.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_04: I love her.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_04: Ronaldo.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_04: Federal injury centers of Lando Lakes have been absolutely exceptional.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_04: I love those guys.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_04: They resolved my case situation almost immediately, almost three years ago.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_04: Awesome.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_04: That's we love the feedback.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_04: We love the good and bad feedback.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_04: So it doesn't matter.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, I take the negative feedback and I slap people around with it.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_01: So keep that coming too.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, we're not perfect.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_01: We just really strive to be.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_04: Bo Couples, I need help with the doctor.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_04: It is at an FIC.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_04: After the live, go ahead and message us.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, because I'm the guy that you call for that sort of a thing.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_04: Jerry, Amy, Jerry's responding to Amy.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_04: Your congressman can help you with this.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_04: Sadly, congressional inquiry is the only thing the post office will respond to to trying to get these forms, 50s, T TSP payrolls, etc.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, nobody wants to deal with Congress.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_01: If a congressperson's staffer calls, that's a bad day for management, trust me.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_04: Nancy Lopez, upload all doctors' notes with the new diagnosis under expansion.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_04: You have to be proactive in your case.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's I know it's already hard for you guys to learn the process of OWCP.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_04: Now you have to learn the process of uploading these things and staying on top of it.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_04: Don't wait.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm even speaking for our offices, don't wait for anybody to call you back.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_04: Be proactive.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_04: Call them.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_04: If something doesn't sit right with you, call them.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_04: Ask for the case manager.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_04: Get it handled.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: I literally wait for nothing.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know why people do that.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's your life.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: Don't wait.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: I agree 100%.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_04: Nancy Lopez said, go to the union hall.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_01: I agree with that too.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: And in my opinion, most union halls have strong union people.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_01: So go get help from strong people.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_01: And if you have somebody who's not, go up the go up the ladder to the next person.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody's up there that wants to help you.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's my experience that there's a lot of people that want to help you.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_01: We spend a lot of time at union conventions around people that are fired up to help.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_01: I can't speak to the ones I don't spend time around.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_01: But the ones I'm around, they light stuff on fire to make things happen.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_01: So don't overlook that.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_01: Unions are unions can be very strong.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_04: Amy said, my manager called me in the ER, no carriers know to ask for this.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_04: So we always train you guys if you're a steward or a coworker or a good supervisor manager.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_04: Make sure your people get the CA 16.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_04: Do you guys know how long you have to ask for a CA 16?
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_01: I just said it.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_04: Did you guys remember what he said about the CA 16?
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: You got to request it.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_01: You got to report within seven days, and they have four hours to give it to you from there.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_04: So remember this.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_04: And we'll do little reels throughout now where Chris is going to just, you know, explain this because a lot of you are just missing these lives or go to the remote.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_01: Now that I saw like over a thousand people looked at my goofy thing sitting outside in the rain, I was almost getting wet, like recording it, and still I got a thousand people.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_04: And I told him, hey, just do this.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_01: I think we're going to help more people.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_04: Bo, I did.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_04: They're fantastic at getting the claim accepted.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_04: The expansion was horrible.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, sorry.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_04: Nancy Lopez, call the billing for the ER and give them your claim number and the DOL number.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_04: Tell them to bill them.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_04: She's exactly right.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_04: If you received a CA 16 after that you went to the hospital, that's exactly what you do.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_04: Or the walk-in clinic or wherever you at any point.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_01: You just give them your claim number and say, Bill OWCP.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's the deal.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_01: Don't bill me.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that that DOL number, that claim number is your in your insurance number for this type of stuff.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's a nine-digit number.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's always nine, never ten, never eight.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's a nine-digit number.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_01: So find that and give it to them.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_04: People that show up don't need to be the per don't need to be perfect.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_04: They showed up.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_04: That's the first step.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I hear you.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_01: Maria, I hear you loud and clear, but for our stuff, I actually do require perfection, or at least to really work hard for it, because there's a human a human life on the other end of everything we do.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_01: Perfection is the only thing that really makes sense to me.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_04: Darlene, I used to work on light duty, and all congressional letters are priority.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_04: Send them a letter.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_01: I like it.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_04: Um, Maria 147, gonna play that number.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_04: Amy, my union hall sucks, and yes, I did call my NBA, and he sucks also.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_04: I called Matt.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_01: And he's never helped.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_01: So look, Amy, uh, I just I don't call people out like that.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_01: You're well, you're allowed to.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_01: This is your page as much as it's mine, but that's why we didn't call him out.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_01: But uh other people can read that.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_01: You're allowed to post what you want here.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_04: Wow, we already went through it's 848 already.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_04: Wow, fast.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_01: Great to ask any of my questions.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna ask questions that was gonna get you folks talking, but this was a really good one.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone's really talking, lots of interaction.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was gonna ask, what did your supervisor tell you that turned out to be wrong?
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_01: But I think that's like an entire show.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_04: I think we'll wait for that.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_04: We're gonna we're gonna we're not gonna talk about that one.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_04: We'll do that another week.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: What did your supervisor tell you that turned out to be wrong?
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_01: Everything, probably.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_04: Amy says, the ER says my DOL number doesn't work for billing because my claim has not been accepted.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_01: So that's true.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_01: Uh an OWCP number, the nine-digit uh claim number, doesn't mean that it's accepted.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_01: It just means there's a file cabinet with your name on it.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_01: You still have to get the claim accepted, which means you need a doctor who can write a fantastic narrative.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, last week we went we well, the week before, we actually went over this stating when when you go through this process.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_04: If you want, go to the last week's uh chats and you'll see we talked about that particular thing.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_01: Maria says you're perfect.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna assume you're talking to me, but you could be talking to her.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, see, we need to know more about your case.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, we do.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_04: What else?
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_04: What else do you guys have?
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_04: Any other questions?
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_04: This is QA.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_04: No one stumped the chumpy here?
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's not happening.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's just it's just not.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_04: Somebody's gotta write a question to stump Mr.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_04: Chump over here.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_01: I could take a year off and not think about OWCP, and I could come back and still not get stumped.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_04: I honestly don't think you could ever take a year off because somebody would ask you something.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_04: You'd get some sort of.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_01: Well, let's let me let me take a just a rough poll.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_01: Should I take a year off?
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_04: If they say yes, I'm just gonna wear more crazy hats.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_01: Should I take a year off?
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_01: Just hit a bunch of thumbs ups and hearts if I should take a year off.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_04: I have crazier hats than, you know, I rented this hooker.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_04: I have very crazy hats.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_04: The one I was gonna wear, I said, nah.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_04: It was funny, but you know, I don't know how some people, I don't want people to be like a Karen, be like, no, Janie's Karen of hats not appropriate.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_01: I've got stuff that I don't wear too.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, am I gonna wear this tonight?
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_04: I wore that I rented a hooker shirt into our grocery store, and I got the funniest looks, and you would never guess.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_04: And the oldest lady came up to me and she said, That is an awesome shirt and giggled her way away.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_01: Nancy said, No, don't take a year off.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_01: Jerry said he couldn't.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_04: Even if he said that he wouldn't, he'd be lying to you guys.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_01: I can't help it.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and I take on personal cases.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_01: I have an entire team, you know, and we have 65 plus offices and they all have teams.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_01: And there's still times where I just can't help it.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_01: I have to do it myself because I love it.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_01: I can always ask Jennifer or Emmy or whoever else to do a thing, but I love helping.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_04: This is You know what he likes to do?
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_01: I like the hard cases.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_04: He doesn't like the little my leg, my wrist, my shoulder.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_04: He likes the crazy ones.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like, like that one where I told you to send me a message.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_01: I want that one.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_04: Like he'll sit there.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_01: Because nobody else will take it.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_04: Let me tell you guys, this is what he does.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_04: He'll have his phone and he will read it, and he will put it down and he'll do this.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_04: And he'll look off into La La Land for about a good 10 minutes, literally.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_04: And he will just whatever matrix is happening in his little brain just happens, and then this explosion, he goes, I got it.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_04: And that's it.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_04: Literally, that's exactly how he solves this.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_04: And then he makes a call to the case manager and whatever, or reach out to you guys, and it happens from there.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_04: So and Tammy Newman knows exactly what I'm talking about.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm actually helping with one right now that should not, it should never get approved.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but you never know.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_01: It should never get approved, but it's gonna get approved.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_04: That's what I'm saying.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's it's definitely gonna get approved because there's a way, and like you just have to find that crevice and just like slide through it.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I found it.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_01: So, anyways, that one that I said send us a message.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_01: I hope you actually will.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_01: I can't promise that I'll fix it, but I promise that I'll stare off into the distance for 10 minutes until I figure it out.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_04: He will, he will.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_04: It's it's I think it's the cutest thing.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_04: Lori, how hard is it to get a claim for anxiety approved?
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, not it depends.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like it depends on what the anxiety is caused by, but yeah, I feel like if it's you know a legit OWCP related condition, that I could get all of those approved.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I say the legit thing, not to say that yours isn't, but you know, some things you have anxiety and it has nothing to do with the job, is my point.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_01: But as long as it has to do with the job, yeah, those are those should all get approved.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, what Amy Waltz asks, and we say this.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_04: I just said this a couple minutes ago.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_04: Should I ask for an update on my case since the reconsideration was filed in February?
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_04: Always call your office and ask them.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_04: It's your case, it's your right to know what's happening.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_04: But also, please read all your letters that DOL sent.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_04: Today I was talking to a girl.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_01: Not please, read them by God, because if you don't, you're gonna miss something like big, big serious things.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_04: She said that I hope she's watching.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_04: She said that, you know, she's not she didn't get any letters.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_04: And I told her, What how did you get this answer?
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_04: It was a bogus answer from the claims examiner, and I said, and I was telling you about it, I said to her, Did you get a letter from DOL?
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_04: When you get that letter, I want to see it.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_04: You know, take a picture and send it to me.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_04: Because when you guys get your denials, there's a reason why it's denied.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_04: And if we see that, we're able to tell you how to help and get it fixed.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_01: She said it's correct.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_04: So, yes, stay on top of your case managers or whoever's office you're going to.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_04: You have a right to ask questions.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_04: And if they give you a hard time, it's your case.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, we got more stuff.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_04: Nancy, you have to have a great statement, witness statement of your anxiety, how it occurred, and of course, your psychologist, psychiatrist.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_04: Correct.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_01: Witness statements are always great.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_01: Your own personal statements great.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what is in the CA1 or CA2 is critically important.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_01: We need that.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_01: And then the evaluation by a mental health provider, that's like that's the thing.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta have that right.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_04: Linda, second opinion doctor on my schedule award was incomplete and mentioning all my injuries.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_04: Can I call you guys tomorrow to make sure I'm responding correctly?
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_04: Send me a message and I'll help you.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_01: Just in case, because we're always not on the phone.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_01: And and my phone is set to not answer uh calls from numbers that it thinks are spam.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it just deletes it.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to miss you.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_01: Send a message.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_01: We don't want to avoid you, but I don't want to miss you.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_01: So message.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_04: Amy, I would appreciate it so much if you had an idea how to resolve.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_04: No problem.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_04: Send us that message.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_04: Darlene, I'm on disability retirement.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_04: I have an accepted case that I want to get a schedule award.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_04: Can I see a doctor to get permanent rating for a schedule award?
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the timeline for that is as long as you're alive.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_01: So as long as you're still alive, you can do that.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_01: The key is your claim has to be accepted and it's got to be a diagnosis that's approved for schedule awards.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, outside of that, there's no timeline, you're not missing anything, there's no deadlines that you're gonna miss.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the answer to your question is yes.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_04: As you said, it's been several years and I'm having flare-ups on my injury.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_01: And if you're having flare-ups on the injury, you can also get it reopened.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_01: Your claims likely closed, but a letter of medical necessity from the doctor explaining why the accepted condition is having a flare-up can typically get you more treatment because you technically have lifetime medical.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_04: Todd Lander, is there a 30-day time frame for your claims examiner to review a job offer you get that you feel is invalid?
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_04: Post office management wants you to accept and start immediately.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so Todd, the rule is this, and management in all agencies, especially post office, get this wrong all the time.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_01: What they do is they they they take your limited duty offer and they put it in front of you and they say, Here, sign that.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_01: And you have been told your entire career to sign under protest or under duress.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the words protest and duress are nowhere in the rules, nowhere in the code of federal regulations.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's not how it's actually supposed to be done, right?
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_01: But you guys have allowed it to be done.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_01: Your unions have like played into it.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm not bad mouthing unions, I am a friend to the union.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying it's a thing that's happened.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_01: The rule actually says that when the uh the supervisor has a what they think is a valid job offer, they give it to you in writing.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_01: They also have to give it to the claims examiner, e-comp.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_01: The claims examiner has an opportunity to look at it.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_01: The claims examiner then says, Yeah, I think that's a valid job offer, or no, I don't, and then they'll send it back, right?
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_01: But if they think it's valid, they tell you, we think you have a valid job offer.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_01: And at that point, based on the rules and the code of federal regulations, you have 30 days to take that and review it with your doctor.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_01: I think you should go review it with your doctor within 30 minutes.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_01: If you can do it right now at this second, it's even better.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_01: But they give you the full 30 days.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_01: And from there, let's say your doctor disagrees and says, no, this doesn't work.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_01: And then the doctor sends it in to the claim examiner and says, No, it doesn't work.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_01: The claim examiner from there, if still disagrees, will give you another 15 days with which to correct.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_01: So you technically have as much as six weeks to approve these things or deny them.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_01: With all that said, if it's a valid job offer, you have to take it even if you don't like it, because it'll cut all your benefits off, and that's bad for everyone.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_01: But no, you don't have to sign it now under duress or under protest.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_01: That's not in the rules.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_01: The rules allow for you to do this.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_01: There's an uh injury comp person in Utah, and that's as much description as I'm gonna give to this person that has been told the rules, showed the rules and says, No, I don't care, that doesn't apply to us.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_04: How stupid.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_01: You're a federal agency, of course it applies to you.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_01: So I can't get over that, okay?
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like my dad always said, you can't fix stupid.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I can't fix that, okay?
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_01: But I can show the rules and say, here's why you're wrong.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_01: And um, from there, your union's gonna do a great job of you know aggrieving it.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_01: And you're probably gonna have to talk to you know your agency's OIG or you know, somebody with a badge and say, why are you allowing this person in charge of me to continuously break the law?
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_01: The code of federal regulations, which is a law, says the following why is she allowed to break it?
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_01: I don't understand.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_01: I can't break the law, you can't break the law, and why does she get to?
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'd like for somebody to do that and maybe put a stop to it, especially in Utah.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_04: Bo said, Management lies.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_04: They told me I had to let them know immediately, but I listened to Wednesday night chats.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_01: Good for you.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_01: I would say, when in doubt, if there's a difference between what management says and what Chris says, I'd probably go with what I say.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_01: With that said, I'm not looking for you to get fired.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_01: They're not allowed to do that, and they're not supposed to do it, but I'm also not looking for you to have unnecessary problems with management.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I do want you to know what the roles are, and these are the roles.
• 59:42
  unknown: Yeah.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_04: If you're this is from Nancy to Darlene, if you're still having symptoms, I wouldn't get an impairment rating.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_04: I would continue treatment, follow your treating doctor's treatment plan.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, it depends.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know about that.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know because you can be at maximum medical improvement and still have symptoms.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_01: So let the doctor decide.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_01: But I get the point that you're making 100%, Nancy.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_01: I get it.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's what I was saying.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_04: She needs to be able to do that.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_01: But MMI doesn't necessarily have to do with symptoms.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_04: That's what I was saying.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, I'm not a doctor either.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_04: Let your doctor know.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, let the doctor know.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_04: Darlene, on my ankle injury, I received several surgeries.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_04: I have a double fusion in my ankle.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_04: It is now causing other issues on my back.
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_04: What can I do?
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_04: Well, you're going to federal injury centers, just let them know.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_01: You could ask uh the doctor there, but I can tell you what you can do.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_01: Again, I'm not a doctor, but I know there's also a thing called a consequential injury, meaning if you have a condition that has caused some other condition as a result of having the other, you know, the first thing, then they can both be covered.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_01: But that's a doctor question.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_04: Um, if you want my hat, message me this.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_04: I rent it.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_01: Sword to God, I'll take over and I'll put it in a package and mail it right to you.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_04: No, we have somebody.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_04: We have somebody.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_01: You can have it.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_01: She won't, but you will.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_04: We have somebody if you if you guys want anything like our funny shirts or hats, if you want any of them that we wear, I'll send you the person that'll create them for you.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_04: It's design lab.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_04: And we do not receive a commission off of sales.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_04: He just makes them anything funny that I and any of my shirts, my hats, he said he's willing to make them for you guys.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm actually glad you said that.
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_01: We don't take money from anybody ever.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_01: No commissions.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_01: If I say go talk to a lawyer, I get nothing.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_01: If I say go talk to a guy who makes hats, I get nothing.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's not how we work.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_01: So if you want to rent a hooker like this, just let me know.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_04: I'll get you.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'll take a commission off of that.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, Darlene, all information is helpful.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you, Nancy.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you to the both of you and Nancy.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_04: You're welcome.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_04: I agree.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_04: All right, guys.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_04: So we hope this QA answered all your questions.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_04: There was a lot of questions.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_04: We loved them this week.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, next week, um, I think I know what we're gonna talk about, but we'll we'll let you know um the ending of this week next week.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_04: And let's see anything else.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_04: So um, yeah, it was great coming back.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_04: Um, like we said, we were gone to Washington and Idaho.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_04: Whoops, Erica.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_04: I need help with okay.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_04: Just keep talking.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_01: Let me read it first.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so those of you that are in Spokane, not Kane, we were there.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_04: Beautiful little city.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_04: That was our first time in Washington State and as well as Idaho.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_04: It's funny because I actually, when I was for college, I actually applied at Boise State, and my dad said you're not leaving home, so I didn't get to go to Boise State, even though I got accepted.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_04: So I just stayed in Utah, which I'm very grateful for.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead.
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  SPEAKER_01: Erica Assembly is on Facebook.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_04: If you guys are wondering how you send us a message, once you get off the live, go in where it says follow and message, click the message.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_04: But please understand there's a lot of you that message me.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_04: If you do not uh open whatever the setting is in your messenger on Facebook, if you do not do whatever you're supposed to do and I don't know, I cannot respond back to you.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_04: It seems like only if you're on Facebook, then it allows me to respond.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_04: But if you're not on Facebook, it doesn't give me a place to respond.
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_04: You know, they'll respond back to your message.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_04: So if you do want us to respond, make sure that setting is open so then you can respond because somebody said, I sent you this like seven days ago.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_04: It's not me.
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_04: I even did this screenshot where I showed him it wasn't on my end.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_04: I just cannot respond to your message if it's not whatever it is it does.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, Erica, um, be sure that you send me a Facebook message.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_01: The reason I'm not just jumping in answering this question is because I can't overroll a doctor and I don't know how doctors think.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_01: However, I want to know more about this and then I will ask questions to help you out.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_04: Todd said, Thanks.
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_04: I think spinal injuries aren't covered for schedule awards.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_04: I've heard that if you contact senators that you may get help if getting approved.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_04: Do you have knowledge of the senator Congress members helping getting non-covered things getting approved?
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so uh spinal conditions are not covered by schedule awards.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_01: However, if it causes problems in the arms and legs, those can be.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_01: There is nothing a congressperson can do about that except for write new legislation and get it passed through the House and Senate and signed by the president.
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_01: Good luck.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_01: Because nobody ever agrees on anything in that city.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_01: But that's what it would take.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you are correct.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_01: The spinal conditions are not covered unless they cause uh problems into your arms and legs.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, do you have knowledge of that of senators, congress members helping get non-covered things get approved?
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_01: If it's not covered, it won't get approved.
• 1:04:44
  SPEAKER_01: What you need to do is find a way how to get it covered, which is a medical thing that a Congress, even a congressperson can't fix that because they're not doctors.
• 1:04:52
  SPEAKER_04: Darlene, looking forward to seeing Dr.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_04: Dorfman in Lady Lake, the villages.
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_04: You're gonna love him.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_04: Telling you, if you haven't met Dr.
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_04: Dorfman, he's a character.
• 1:05:01
  SPEAKER_04: We love him.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_01: He is made out of gold.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_04: And I received a check from DOL that does not reconcile with hours submitted for compensation.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_04: Notified DOL via phone.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_01: The next steps.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so receiving a check from DOL that doesn't reconcile with your hours means you need to contact the claimed examiner, explain why not, get with management, see what the CA7 showed.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_01: They may have very well on their second page um written something down wrong.
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's my gut feeling.
• 1:05:31
  SPEAKER_04: Audra, I have an accepted case.
• 1:05:33
  SPEAKER_04: I'm about to have surgery, but it has taken 15 months to get the care I need, and they will take my route at the two-year mark.
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_04: What can I do to keep my route?
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_04: They have not given me a modified job offer.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_01: This is a union issue.
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_01: What can I do to keep my route?
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_01: Your union needs to help you.
• 1:05:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you have an accepted case that protects you.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_01: You're about to have surgery, but it's taken 15 months to get the care I need.
• 1:05:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, being out of Work for most crafts 12 months is an issue.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_01: But if you're post-operative, um, I think I think you're gonna be okay, but your union's gonna have to help you with this.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_04: Maria, Spokane.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_04: I stayed at KK and Spokane, Dude Ranch, wonderful place.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_04: I wish I would have asked you.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_04: Spokane.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_04: Spokane.
• 1:06:20
  SPEAKER_04: Nancy, on your next check, can we talk about CA7, CA7A, how to do, and what kind of thing?
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_04: If you go back two chats from today, two chats that it's still there, and if it's not there, go to our YouTube channel, Wednesday night OWCP Chats with Chris and Jeannie.
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_04: We did discuss this topic less than a month ago.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_04: So go back and look at that.
• 1:06:41
  SPEAKER_04: Um you don't have to wait till next week.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_01: You can get it tonight if you like.
• 1:06:46
  SPEAKER_04: Jerry, Todd Lander, they won't really talk to you or help you unless you live in their district.
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_04: Nancy Lopez, or CA2 or consequential injuries.
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_04: Are you asking if we could talk about that or did you need information?
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_01: or CA2 or consequentials.
• 1:07:03
  SPEAKER_04: So we will be bringing that topic up.
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can definitely talk about CA2s and consequentials.
• 1:07:07
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_04: So those of you have any outside questions and want us to help you with anything that you've talked about tonight, please send us a message.
• 1:07:16
  SPEAKER_04: We will answer them tomorrow and make sure that I'm able to answer it because I won't be able and don't get upset if you think I'm not answering, because I answer everything, every all these questions within 48 hours.
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_04: Last chat we did the next morning.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_04: I woke up, I had 39 messages from you guys.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_04: So it takes a little bit.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_04: And I had to overlook six of them because I can't respond back.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_04: So I go back and check them.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_04: So again, open your messages from Messenger so I can respond.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_04: I am not ignoring you and tell your coworkers that I'm not ignoring you.
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_01: Now I understand.
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_01: We also we can't answer medical questions because we're not medical.
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we can answer procedural questions.
• 1:07:53
  SPEAKER_01: She will believe me, not let me finish my coffee before I've answered questions so it'll get done.
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_01: She's a real taskmaster.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_04: I am.
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_04: I whip him.
• 1:08:05
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• 1:08:05
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• 1:08:06
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• 1:08:10
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• 1:08:11
  SPEAKER_04: Somebody rent him so I can get a new hooker.
• 1:08:13
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe Matthew McConaughey.
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_04: If you see this, come on.
• 1:08:15
  SPEAKER_01: Just rent me and let me have like a week off.
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_04: All right, guys.
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_04: It was so fun to be back.
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_04: See you guys up on here and all the questions you've asked.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_01: I just found a new favorite name, Natty Addy.
• 1:08:26
  SPEAKER_01: Natty Addy, you are so welcome.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_01: I want that to be your name.
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_01: I hope it's real.
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_01: I love that so much.
• 1:08:33
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 1:08:33
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• 1:08:40
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• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_04: And those of you that are on our Federal Injury Center's Facebook page and are breaking OWCP page, you have to come here.
• 1:08:49
  SPEAKER_04: We can't go across because what happens is the setup we have, the streaming platform we have, doesn't pull the questions like from my personal Facebook page, like some of you are on right now, um, and breaking OWCP and federal injury centers.
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_04: So I have to jump back and forth to different platforms.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_04: So this is why I say come here and I can see everything from YouTube and uh this Facebook.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_01: This was fun.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_01: It was fun.
• 1:09:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna do QA more often because I just love answer your questions, and we're not stumping because I'm not a chumper.
• 1:09:26
  SPEAKER_04: We didn't stump the chumper.
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_04: It never happens.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_04: We're gonna get them before the year ends.
• 1:09:31
  SPEAKER_01: There's almost no chance.
• 1:09:32
  SPEAKER_04: All right, Norax, yes, it was good to see you here online from YouTube.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_04: Really good to see everybody.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_04: Good night.
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_01: Good night, Maria.
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much, Jerry.
• 1:09:42
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for being here.
• 1:09:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's always awesome having you here.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_04: Don't forget, our first OWCP tour starts in Springfield, Massachusetts on October 22nd from 5 to 9.
• 1:09:55
  SPEAKER_04: We're teaching a two-hour class.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_04: Come by, see us again.
• 1:09:58
  SPEAKER_04: If you're in the Rhode Island, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Philly, New York, and you want to come for this, it's open to the public, to all federal employees across the nation.
• 1:10:11
  SPEAKER_01: And uh to Tammy, Scott, and Dave.
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_01: Love you, love you, love you.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_01: Can't wait.
• 1:10:18
  SPEAKER_02: I've been thinking about the story.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm thinking about telling it.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_01: So I want to talk to Jen pre-existing condition.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_01: A contusion is a pre-existing condition, but I was accepted for medical meniscus tear and sprain and posterior appreciate ligament, right knee.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_01: Now I got a job offer full-time because the IME doctor.
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_01: So there's no question there, but my answer would be make sure your treating doctor agrees with that.
• 1:10:51
  SPEAKER_01: Can I get a copy of your fourth edition book, Darlene?
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_01: Send us a message.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_01: And Amy, super appreciate.
• 1:10:57
  SPEAKER_01: I tuned in during summer but didn't know you were on vacation.
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_04: Oh no, we weren't on vacation.
• 1:11:02
  SPEAKER_04: We take our vacation in January, February to go to the snow.
• 1:11:05
  SPEAKER_01: So just because so we're not always here live, but that doesn't made it.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so what we do is if we're not on one of the weeks, we're actually preparing to fly out to go some to some franchise location or do our tour or something for OWC.
• 1:11:22
  SPEAKER_01: We're about to be in four cities in like a week and a half.
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_04: We can, yeah.
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_04: Four cities in one week and a half.
• 1:11:27
  SPEAKER_04: So he doesn't have it available, have asked.
• 1:11:31
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we do not have any more volume four books.
• 1:11:33
  SPEAKER_04: We're gonna be making some more because a lot of you have been asking, but we're working some strings out where you guys can get it faster and not have to go through us getting and shipping it out.
• 1:11:44
  SPEAKER_04: So, all right, guys, we're done for tonight.
• 1:11:48
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you for hopping on tonight.
• 1:11:50
  SPEAKER_04: Those of you that watch the replay, go and click replay, and we will see you guys all next Wednesday night.