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Ep. 826: Rut Fresh Radio - Whitetail Week Around the Country · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rutfresh Radio, bringing you the
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  Speaker 1: latest reports from the whitetail Woods, presented by first Light,
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  Speaker 1: Case Smith and Tyler Jones.
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  Speaker 2: The crops are coming out, the acorns are falling in.
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  Speaker 2: Big bucks have started hitting the ground around the country.
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  Speaker 2: This is rot Fresh.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go. What's going on, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: This is ret Fresh Radio, brought to you by first
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  Speaker 2: your whitetail needs. And I tell you, I've got Mark
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  Speaker 2: Kenyan on the phone right now and we are we
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  Speaker 2: are not in need too much at the moment. We
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  Speaker 2: are riding high on some wattail high because it's opening
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  Speaker 2: day in Michigan, which is like a state holiday.
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  Speaker 3: From what I understand, right man, it doesn't get any better.
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  Speaker 4: It's a glorious day.
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  Speaker 3: We were listening this morning. Do you know the album
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  Speaker 3: The Bone Collector? Oh, oh yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I don't listen to it often, but you know it's
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  Speaker 2: like you whip it out every once in a while
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  Speaker 2: when you really need it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, well, this is that.
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  Speaker 4: Time of year. One of the songs on that album's
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  Speaker 4: Opening Day, and so we were jamming to Opening Day
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  Speaker 4: on the.
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  Speaker 3: Radio this morning. When I was taking my son to school.
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  Speaker 4: We listened to some Fred Baher, we listened to some
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  Speaker 4: thirty point Buck.
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  Speaker 3: We bust out all the hits.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was wondering if you did a thirty
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  Speaker 2: point buck. You know, that's not a thing here at all,
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  Speaker 2: but I appreciate it from afar.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's not that far. It's like a Northern
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  Speaker 4: version of a Texas.
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  Speaker 3: Bill billy kind of song.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like it's right up right up your guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but but yeah, we're uh, we're all excited here.
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  Speaker 3: One of my.
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  Speaker 4: Best buddies, his son killed his first buck with a
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  Speaker 4: bow all on his zone this morning. So super exciting
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  Speaker 4: to see that. I'm getting ready to head out here
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  Speaker 4: in a couple of hours. So I'm excited. And it's just,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's the beginning of the season. You're just
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  Speaker 4: so full of hope and optimism and excitement. There's nothing
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  Speaker 4: but good stuff ahead as far as I can think.
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  Speaker 4: Of at the moment right, none of the none of
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  Speaker 4: the tough realities have shown their ugly faces yet. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm riding high. Yeah that's cool, dude, that's exciting. Do
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  Speaker 4: you have a Mark Kenyon Worthy plan for opening day?
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  Speaker 3: I would say I.
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  Speaker 4: Do have a Mark kenyan Worthy playing You're a planned
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  Speaker 4: out guy, That's that's That's what I'm you know, kind
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  Speaker 4: of referencing here.
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  Speaker 3: I feel as if you are in the Deerwoods.
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  Speaker 2: You're conservative by nature, and so I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: knowing you in your past, if you didn't have a
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  Speaker 2: good plan or a good win, you would you would
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  Speaker 2: very well glass or observation sit for the evening.
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  Speaker 3: But do you feel like you're going to be in
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  Speaker 3: the chips?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got I've got a pretty decent shot tonight.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going in with like the Shike's level of confidence.
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  Speaker 4: Like there's sometimes when you go in and like just
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  Speaker 4: walking in and you're like, oh my goodness, this is
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  Speaker 4: gonna be the night. But it's still pretty darn good.
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  Speaker 4: So I'll try not to bore you with too much
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  Speaker 4: of this. But the short version of the story is
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  Speaker 4: that one of my two main target bucks in southern
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  Speaker 4: Michigan has been pretty active the last seven to ten days.
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  Speaker 4: I was able to do some glassing, and on three
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  Speaker 4: different occasions over the last it's like seven.
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  Speaker 3: Eight nine days something like that, in that window, three different.
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  Speaker 4: Times I've seen him on his feet in daylight on
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  Speaker 4: a similar basic track of movement. And what these deer
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  Speaker 4: are doing right now in my area at least, is
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  Speaker 4: that they are shifting off of the green soybean fields
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  Speaker 4: that have just recently defoliated and are mostly all dried
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  Speaker 4: down now, and they've shifted to different food sources. There's
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  Speaker 4: some hitting acorns, but there's not a huge mass crop
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  Speaker 4: at least in my zone from what I've seen, nothing
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  Speaker 4: like what we had last year. So at least where
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  Speaker 4: I'm at, the big new local food source that a
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  Speaker 4: lot of deer turned their attention to is actually cover crops.
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  Speaker 4: There's a number of fields in my region that have
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  Speaker 4: planted cover crops after wheat, and so that cover crop
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  Speaker 4: is like oats and rye and various brassicas and so
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  Speaker 4: it's a green food plot basically. So I've got like
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  Speaker 4: a twenty five acre green food plot on one of
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  Speaker 4: the neighboring farms next to one of the spots that
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  Speaker 4: I can hunt.
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  Speaker 3: So that's been pulling a lot of deer.
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  Speaker 4: So this particular buck that I'm gonna be hunting to
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  Speaker 4: night has shifted off of the beans and I think
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  Speaker 4: is keying on mostly that cover crop, and I've got
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  Speaker 4: a couple spots I can intercept him from one of
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  Speaker 4: his main bedding zones heading towards that cover crop.
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  Speaker 3: One of those spots is a.
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  Speaker 4: Little kind of Heidi whole food plot that I was
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  Speaker 4: able to plant, and that is similar to what's in
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  Speaker 4: the cover crop.
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  Speaker 3: But just a little bit more hidden away and a
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  Speaker 3: little closer to betting. And so one of those.
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  Speaker 4: Nights that I caught him moving like five six days ago,
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  Speaker 4: he hit the food plot, first made a scrape, and
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  Speaker 4: then headed off towards the big destination. So with the
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  Speaker 4: wind we've got tonight, that's the only spy I can
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  Speaker 4: safely hunt and be in a pretty good spot. So
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  Speaker 4: I'm hunting that little Heidi hole plot tight to one
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  Speaker 4: of his bedrooms.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of on the way to the bigger destination.
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  Speaker 4: So it's got all the markings of a standard high
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  Speaker 4: quality early season hunt.
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  Speaker 3: I can get in there without anything.
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  Speaker 4: Knowing I'm going to be there and get out pretty
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  Speaker 4: safely without anything knowing I was there. There's a scrape
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  Speaker 4: tree within range of this spot.
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  Speaker 3: There's a actually the tree.
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  Speaker 4: Stand I'm in is in a white oak that does
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  Speaker 4: have some acorns, so there will be some acorns right
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  Speaker 4: next to me. So there's a bunch of good looking
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  Speaker 4: things in decent weather. It's not super hot, it's not
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  Speaker 4: super cool. It's kind of right around average. But there's
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  Speaker 4: a cool front hitting tonight, and temperatures tomorrow morning will
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  Speaker 4: be like fifteen degrees cooler than they were this morning,
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  Speaker 4: So you know, there's a little bit of that environmental
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  Speaker 4: thing that might get a move just a tiny bit more.
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  Speaker 3: So all I has to say, I'm excited. I feel
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  Speaker 3: pretty decent. I think there's a pretty decent chance that
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  Speaker 3: he could come through there. Yeah that's cool, man.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel how much let me ask this differently,
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  Speaker 2: how much emphasis do you put on moon phases?
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  Speaker 3: Mark? Almost none? Yeah, almost none. I would say I
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  Speaker 3: would say close to zero.
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  Speaker 4: The only time I'll look at it, you know, And
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  Speaker 4: I've got somebodies who are red moon obsessed, and so
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  Speaker 4: they're always saying, oh, it's red Moon's red moon.
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  Speaker 3: So if ever, like a red moon, or if.
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  Speaker 4: Ever the rising and setting moon times coincide with the
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  Speaker 4: first hour or last hour of daylight, which is supposed
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  Speaker 4: to be a good trigger. Whenever that happens, and I'm hunting,
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  Speaker 4: I'm always thinking, well, hey, the moon's good, maybe that'll.
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  Speaker 3: Mean today's the day.
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  Speaker 2: It's only a factor for optimism, right exactly, Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't take it into account anyone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it would it be in a new moon
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  Speaker 2: right now, I'm like you, I don't actually think about
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  Speaker 2: the red moon stuff too much, but I'll like new
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  Speaker 2: moons and it's never going to keep me from hunting.
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  Speaker 2: But if there's no moon at not, it's just like
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  Speaker 2: what you were saying, where it's like, oh, well, there's
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  Speaker 2: a chance they get on their feet a little bit
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  Speaker 2: earlier because they know that, you know, they're their patterns
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  Speaker 2: are such that they don't have as much light at
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  Speaker 2: not or whatever. You know, you can always kind of
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  Speaker 2: come up with a good reason to go. And so
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of what I'm looking at. And there's others,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the guys that we've talked to this week
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  Speaker 2: are kind of thinking that too. Now, when you're looking
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  Speaker 2: at your set up to not I know you being analytical,
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  Speaker 2: you've thought about the liabilities. What's your big liability tonight
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  Speaker 2: with this sit That's.
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  Speaker 4: A great question, and that is a very important thing
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  Speaker 4: to think about, especially early in the year, because you know,
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  Speaker 4: every time you hunt your roll in the dice and
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  Speaker 4: you've got the possible chances of a reward, it's like
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  Speaker 4: how likely it is that you're gonna kill something? And
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  Speaker 4: you have to balance that or compare that to what's
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  Speaker 4: your chance of risk? Like what's the downside? What are
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  Speaker 4: the liabilities that you're talking about? And if you press
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  Speaker 4: in and do something where it's low odds of success
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  Speaker 4: but very high odds of something bad happening, and by
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  Speaker 4: bad happening, I mean educating deer, well, then you might
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  Speaker 4: end up blowing your future opportunities when there really was
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  Speaker 4: a chance to get a crack at the deer you're after.
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  Speaker 4: And so my liabilities tonight are pretty well accounted for,
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  Speaker 4: which is, you know by plan. Two things could be
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  Speaker 4: a problem for me. One would be if the wind
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  Speaker 4: direction was different than what it is. So I always
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  Speaker 4: like to hunt opening night almost never. I almost never
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  Speaker 4: pass on Opening night just because these deer haven't been
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  Speaker 4: pressured yet.
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  Speaker 3: There's still a little bit on the summer pattern.
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  Speaker 4: But if I had a wind direction that was pressing
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  Speaker 4: into these betting areas that I'm hunting, you just can't
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  Speaker 4: do it because you're just not going to have any
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  Speaker 4: deer come out, or at least not the deer you're
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  Speaker 4: after if they're winding you, and so tonight, if the
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  Speaker 4: wind switched on me, that would be a major issue.
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  Speaker 4: But as of right now, I have almost as good
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  Speaker 4: of a wind as I could ask for hunt this spot,
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  Speaker 4: a very safe wind that blows back into an area
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  Speaker 4: where almost there's never deer, almost.
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  Speaker 3: Never coming from that area.
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  Speaker 4: They're not deer bedded there, so it's a pretty safe wind.
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  Speaker 4: But that if it changed, that would be a liability.
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  Speaker 4: And then the second thing is my exit. My entry
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  Speaker 4: is rock solid.
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  Speaker 3: I don't need to go through anything that will have deer.
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  Speaker 4: I shouldn't spook any deer unless I get there super
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  Speaker 4: late and there's already deer in the food, but that
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  Speaker 4: won't be the case. The exit is the situation that
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  Speaker 4: can be tricky, and I'm lucky enough that I have
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  Speaker 4: this particular place I'm hunting tonight is close enough to
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  Speaker 4: where I live that I can get my wife on
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  Speaker 4: some evenings to drive out and clear any deer that
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  Speaker 4: might be out in the neighboring fields and kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of make sure it's safe.
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  Speaker 4: So she can drive out in the truck if the
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  Speaker 4: fields are if the fields are picked dirty, or she
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  Speaker 4: can hop in the canam and drive that down and
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  Speaker 4: sometimes pick me up in that. And so tonight is
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  Speaker 4: actually a night where I'm going to use use my uh,
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  Speaker 4: use my brownie points and get her to drive all
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  Speaker 4: the way on the can m so that basically I
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  Speaker 4: can get out of there without any deer being busted
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  Speaker 4: by me climbing out of the tree and walking out
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  Speaker 4: of there.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a luxury to have a spot this close
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  Speaker 3: enough and a.
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  Speaker 4: Wife who's who's kind enough and understanding enough to sacrifice
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  Speaker 4: some over evening to do me that doing that solid.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nice man.
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  Speaker 2: You know. Early on in the Element podcast catalog, we
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  Speaker 2: had an episode called burning Brownie points, and we assessed
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  Speaker 2: that you have so many and they, uh, they're kind
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  Speaker 2: of like some you know, like savings accounts or or
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that, where like they they don't roll over
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  Speaker 2: all the time.
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  Speaker 3: So like you gotta use them wisely.
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  Speaker 2: But also you can't like accumulate too many and then uh,
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  Speaker 2: some days you burn more than others for the same tasks.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, I can assume you've assessed that as well.
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  Speaker 2: With this brownie burning, you're about to do not and
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be totally worth it. And I think it's.
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  Speaker 4: Funny, you know, like back before I used to hunt
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  Speaker 4: the same general area, remember the first like five to seven,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how many years, a decent number of
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  Speaker 4: years I hunted this area and I would just walk
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  Speaker 4: in and out to the road on foot, and it
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  Speaker 4: was always hard to get out of there without spooking deer.
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  Speaker 4: And then when I finally realized, oh, you know what,
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  Speaker 4: if I could just get like a friend who's.
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  Speaker 5: In the area, or Kylie.
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  Speaker 4: Or if I can convince someone to come out here
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  Speaker 4: and how to pick me up or clear the field
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  Speaker 4: of the vehicle or something, that would probably be a
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  Speaker 4: significantly less you know, damaging exit. And since we started
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  Speaker 4: doing that, my success in my settings of mature bucks
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  Speaker 4: in that area.
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  Speaker 3: Have gone up dramatically.
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  Speaker 4: Like that was one thing that made a huge difference
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  Speaker 4: over the last I don't know, seven to ten years probably.
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  Speaker 3: That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: It's good to see things like that, like you used
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  Speaker 2: to see the return on that you know, and be
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  Speaker 2: able to make a actual deduction.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, this has a direct impact.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just really feel like they're much more forgiving
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  Speaker 4: of a vehicle than a person. And so in spots
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  Speaker 4: where there's not a great way to walk out without.
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  Speaker 3: Something seeing you.
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  Speaker 4: In this particular area, that's very tricky to get out
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  Speaker 4: because there's so much open croft field and where I
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  Speaker 4: have to access from the road is on the opposite
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  Speaker 4: side of those open fields.
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  Speaker 3: If stuff's picked or open, you're very exposed.
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  Speaker 4: So on the nights when I have to go on
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  Speaker 4: there for an evening hunt in one of these places,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's it's very.
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  Speaker 3: Helpful when I can get that ride. Yeah, very nice, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like you've got the pieces in place
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  Speaker 2: to at least having good hunt, and I hope you
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  Speaker 2: find success.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: I think you kind of have a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: a tradition of at least coming close early. It was
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  Speaker 2: it last year or the year before you killed a
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  Speaker 2: deer pretty early on. I can't remember, for.
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  Speaker 4: I almost always see a good one one and yet
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  Speaker 4: two years ago I killed one of my targets opening
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  Speaker 4: nights last night. I saw actually the last night, the
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  Speaker 4: Buckham after tonight. I had an encounter with him last
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  Speaker 4: year on the second day of the season. So so yeah,
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  Speaker 4: there's definitely there's been a lot of good sightings, close calls,
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  Speaker 4: a couple of kills. So I always feel very good
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  Speaker 4: those first couple of days of the season here in Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: So I said, awesome, man, Well, I hope you find
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  Speaker 2: some good success. It sounds like around the country that
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  Speaker 2: optimism is high as well. I got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: states opening up right now, so everybody's kind of like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be an awesome week.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said, optimism is high the first day of
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  Speaker 3: the season.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, dude, optimism kills deer. Absolutely. You know, if you're
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  Speaker 2: feeling pessimistic and you this is for lots of things
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  Speaker 2: in life, right, But take a page out of Tony's
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  Speaker 2: book here, But like, if you're pessimistic in the weight room,
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  Speaker 2: or you're pessimistic, know with your job or with deer hunting,
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  Speaker 2: or in your marriage, it's not going to produce good fruit, right,
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  Speaker 2: But not saying that optimism is going to result in success,
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  Speaker 2: but you're you're taking steps in the right direction.
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  Speaker 3: I one a grief makes makes a big difference. Man.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's uh, let's get the reports from the guys
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  Speaker 2: around the countries.
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  Speaker 3: That sound good, that sounds great. I'm excited to hear them.
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  Speaker 2: On the phone. Now, I've got a local guy here
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  Speaker 2: from Texas. Colton Roberts had him some opening day success. Dude,
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  Speaker 2: congrats on the big buck.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you, Casey.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, for sure, that's a big deal because, in
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  Speaker 2: my opinion, October in Texas is tough, and so you
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  Speaker 2: probably had to have something figured out. What was like
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  Speaker 2: your major tactic on trying to get this deer down.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I had an account encounter with him last year.
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  Speaker 6: I think I did. I'm pretty sure.
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  Speaker 7: And I kind of just went in blind having an idea.
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  Speaker 7: That afternoon, me and my dad and I didn't like
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  Speaker 7: what I see in and I was about to.
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  Speaker 6: Head out and saw a.
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  Speaker 7: Little patch of white oaks and had some caps popped
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  Speaker 7: off the acorns, and I thought, just thick enough, and
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  Speaker 7: there was a bunch of beauty berry there and we just.
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  Speaker 6: Hung up right there and he come out about six o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: Man, that's early too. You must have been pretty close
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  Speaker 2: to his bed. I'd imagine I had to have been. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: did he come in and browse or was he just
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  Speaker 2: walking the trail?
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  Speaker 7: The first thing I heard was him browsing on a
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  Speaker 7: beauty berry and I glanced over and I thought it
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  Speaker 7: was a dough. And then whenever he moved his head,
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  Speaker 7: the whole beautyberry tree moved and.
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  Speaker 6: I went home.
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  Speaker 8: Not a dough.
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  Speaker 3: Things are getting a little more interested real quick.
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  Speaker 7: Right, And I mean he hit a dead load to
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: that acre tree, Like I'm a loaw.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: How about that? I bet you.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I've been in a little scouting too, and maybe you
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: can confirm this, but there's not many trees dropping yet,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: so you probably found the few tree.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: I've always heard feed trees and I have had trouble
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: finding them anywhere.
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: Like it's just aprons here, aprons there.
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: And when I saw those green white oaks on the
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: ground with the caps popped.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: Off of them, I was like, well, they're hitting them.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that you could recognize the detail of
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: the caps popped off.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: You know, that's pretty cool.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: So when you found that tree, did you set up
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: for the wind to be perfect for you? Do you
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: set up on a just off or how did you
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: you know, negotiate situation.
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: It was the wind was coming north, I think, and.
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: It was a cut that went down into a little
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: creek and these weren't a flat.
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: Right before you dropping the cree.
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: And the wind was out of the north, so it
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: was in my face coming away from that cut. But
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: I knew when it got dark, it would start dropping
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: down in that cut if that wind died any and
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: it when dark started rolling around in the shade started
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: coming it, it did start dropping and I was just
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: dropping milkweed every five minutes, but it was it would
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: drop down in there, but then it would float to
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: the creek, and I, for some reason I had a.
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: Feeling they might come off the top.
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: And as long as I could get a shot before
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: he got to it.
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: And he did. He was in a dead run and.
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: Then coming to that tree and he hit that thermal
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: and just locked up, and I already had my pen
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: on him.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Too late, huh. It was yeah, that's awesome, man, So
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: he said earlier. The historical dad, you know, played a
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: little bit of a factor into this.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Did you look at the moon at all thinking about this?
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: He came in early on an evening and it just
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: so happens a week in a new moon period. Do
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: you feel like that correlated?
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: Well, I'm sure it probably did. I've never I always.
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: Think about looking at the moon, and then when it
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: comes time to go, I just got I mean, it
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: don't really matter what the moon's.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: Doing, and I have time off, I'm gonna go.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Yep, though, that's how you kill big deer man. That's
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I think that you could talk yourself out of hunting
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: a whole lot. But it doesn't take too much taught
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: me into it, you know what I mean?
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: No, not really Like if I get home from work
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: and I got two hours of the daylight, I'm going
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: to try.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: To go, Yes, sir, I can understand that completely. So
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: looking forward here, we got cooler tempts than some years,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: but it's a real stagnant period. There's no weather systems
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: at least on the ten day forecast. Do you think
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: that we're going to have kind of similar buck moving
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: over the next week or do you feel like it's
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: gonna kind of peter out after this initial kind of
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: cool spell we had in early October.
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: I think it'll be all right.
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think temperature is gonna be the low nineties,
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: mid eighties coming up, and to me, eighties in Texas
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: is pretty mild.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for this part, I would think for sure we
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: can see eighties in December, right right.
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: I just don't think it bothers them much down here. Yeah,
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: they're just gonna keep doing what they've been doing.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: So if you had to look at the next week
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: and ranking on a scale of one to ten, what
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: would you give it?
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Five?
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: That's pretty good for early season. I'd say I would
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: give it five.
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: Like the only thing I've seen influence so much, like
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: the Weather's not a big deals pressure around where I'm at.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: So it's uh, you know, honestly, looking at it being
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: opening weekend that just happened, there's a chance that it
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: might even get a little bit better. Guys kind of
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: get that Russ knocked off and then they say, Okay,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: it's not November yet, you know, So you could be
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: looking even at the mid Octobers is the time when
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: the pressure lets up?
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: Oh they do. I guarantee it. There won't be shoot
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: next weekend.
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: There might not be four cars on that whole seventeen
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: thousand acres.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Yep, YEP makes a difference, man, for sure. Well, hey,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: do you can grats on me? Was that opening day
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: or or opening weekend?
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Opening?
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Way to go, man, Well, I hope you uh uh
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: can kind of regroup each of some backstraps and figure
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: out another deer to shoot somewhere.
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: And I'm gonna try to.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: This is my good buddy Reed struggle.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: He is in the tri state area of Ohio, Kentucky
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: and Indiana. But you're pumped about your Indiana season about
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: to open, right man.
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: Yes, sir Todaymber one. Yeah, that's awesome.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I didn't I'd go work a little bit this morning.
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: So, uh, I mean the wife, My wife is hunting
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: for her first year season ever, So her and I
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: are going to be hunting this evening, and uh it
• 21:40
  Speaker 9: should be should be good. We finally have a good
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: solid wind for where we're gonna be set up tonight.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: We have east winds for like a week and a half.
• 21:48
  Speaker 9: It's really weird with you know, Hurricane Helen, and uh
• 21:51
  Speaker 9: but yeah, we're we're really excited for time. Got a
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: north northwest wind and should should set up really good.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Gotcha.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: So earlier off air, we were talking about food plots
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: a little bit is that are you kind of manicuring
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: food plots and getting ready to go or kind of
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: what does what your setup look like for a preparation?
• 22:07
  Speaker 9: Absolutely?
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah.
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: So I like you said, I'm Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana. My
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: private properties are Ohio and Indiana, and I've got food
• 22:16
  Speaker 9: plots at both.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I planted some oats land we had that heleen.
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: Hit and from within two or three days, my oats
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: have grown five inches.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: It is the craziest thing in the world.
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: Turnip's blowing up, right, is blowing up because we had
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: that drought and all that and everything. Yeah, but yeah,
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: so tonight we're actually going to be setting up. We
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: did did a little deal with our farmer that they
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: left some corn standing for us, nice and which is
• 22:43
  Speaker 9: great cover. So we're actually going to be doing a
• 22:46
  Speaker 9: little bit of We're going to be in the standing corn.
• 22:50
  Speaker 9: They left about fifteen rows on the edge of this field,
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: so we're gonna make us a little blond in the
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: standing corn, get a couple of rows back, and just
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: kind of PLoP down in the middle of the corn stalks.
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: But it should be a pretty cool hunt, kind of
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: kind of old school little Dan Fitzgerald style.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: The videos of my dude, Dan the Man.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it could be, it could be really cool.
• 23:11
  Speaker 9: I'd love to shoot one in the in the corn
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: stalks like that, you know, early October.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: So you got off the camera data there or just
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: knowing that's a good spot.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Or what it looks like. It's a it's a historical spot.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: My little brother.
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: Actually just killed a buck out of there on Saturday.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: And the youth opener a nice, nice.
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: Eight point good mass uh, you know, around one twenty,
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: so we have a lot of deer down in there.
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: They saw twenty deer that morning in the first ten minutes.
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: He killed his bucks seven minutes in an open day.
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: It's we call it the Cethro Special. It's just kind
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: of what he does. But anyways, Yeah, so I've been
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: running cameras all summer and I run mock scrapes all
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: summer long, and I have doze and bucks hitting these
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: mock scrapes from June to now.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: So that's what I've been monitoring.
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: The there's a couple really nice there's a really nice
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: a point that we're kind of trying to key in
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: on him.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I got him up on the top of my folks,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: up on top.
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: Of the ridges and then it's kind of a valley
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: down on the bottom where the where the ag is
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: and you've got a nice river right there, and uh,
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: we're hoping to catch them this evening coming to feed.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: And that's right now. It is so interesting. They've been
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: pulling ag early, really early this year. It's like two
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: three weeks early.
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: So they're gonna be in those ag fields right now
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: specifically because they just pulled the ag and then once
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: they're going to start transitioning out of that into your
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: acorns and leaves dropping and and you know, but there's
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: just there's a lot of germination going on right now
• 24:43
  Speaker 9: from the amount of rain we've had, so just that
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: that's kind of the pattern we're on, you know, with
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: with having an ag and stant literally standing corn.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: So you feel like the new moon plays a factor
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: in deer movement. You know, there's no moon at night
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Sudden, do you feel like you're going to see more uh,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: you know, evening daylight activity.
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: Absolutely, which we've noticed lately with that heleen when it hit.
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: You know, there's some alfalfa fields around me and we're
• 25:07
  Speaker 9: seeing deer in the field around five o'clock, you know,
• 25:11
  Speaker 9: it's getting dark at seven thirty, and then it's pretty early.
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: I saw a couple of mature bucks out in that
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: alfalfa at five o'clock.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, that could have played a little
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: role with with Helene hitting and whatnot, but definitely.
• 25:22
  Speaker 9: And then so we also right now we have that
• 25:25
  Speaker 9: really really low parametric pressure for about a week with
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: you know, and like I said, that wind switching, it's
• 25:32
  Speaker 9: starting to phase out. So I'm really expecting some better
• 25:37
  Speaker 9: hunting later in this week. The you know, we have
• 25:40
  Speaker 9: a cold front coming in. It's gonna be forties at
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: not and barometric pressure.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: Is gonna get right, and I.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Really think later this week's gonna do good for us.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: And then, like you said, the.
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: Moon phase, it just seems like a lot of things
• 25:54
  Speaker 9: are lining up kind of the they're switching, they're getting
• 25:57
  Speaker 9: out of their bachelor groups.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: You know, these bucks fins start breaking off, they're.
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: Gonna be looking at their buddies like, dude, you've been
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: cool all summer.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: I don't really like you anymore. Man, you know, you
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: get gone out of here, that's cool.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: So, you know, you kind of mentioned over the next
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: week and high anticipations of that if you had to
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: rank buck movement on a scale of one to ten
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: for the state of Indiana for the upcoming week.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: What would you give it. I'm not going to do
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: a Midwest six.
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: And we're gonna.
• 26:25
  Speaker 9: So you know, like like we said, the pressure, the
• 26:28
  Speaker 9: very much pressure lining up that Helen getting kind of
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: moved out of here. I mean I would say an eight.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Man. I really think I'm giving it.
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: An eight because of the cold front two and them
• 26:40
  Speaker 9: phasing out from just there that rut phase is like
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: really good. They're gonna be hitting scrapes. I mean that
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: that's gonna be, you know, be hunting on my own.
• 26:50
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna be sitting.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Over scrapes the next week. N dude and eates enough
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: to get me in the woods. Ate, I'm pumped now,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: appreciate you.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's oping day two.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: Like maybe I'm a little extraly fired up, and I
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: really think.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: I really think, man, I mean it's could be really good.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Enthusiasm kills deer, dude, and you gotta get after man.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Absolutely, Yeah, that's right.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Enthusiasm.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: This is Ben shup Trone. He has been hunting in Tennessee.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Killed him a big giant, massive ten point congrats man,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: First of all, thank you man.
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: It's a it's been a ride it uh. You know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: it's something that I like to do every day. I
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: like to you know, we like to chase white Tail
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: every day. But yeah, when something like this happens, it is, uh,
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: it's super special.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, for sure. You sent me a picture of
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: him ago. He's awesome, and it sounds like you got
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: some history with him. The historical data come into play.
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah, So it's actually funny you say that. So you know,
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: before this happened, you know, last summer, I had been
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: seeing this property that I've been managing forever three years now,
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: and every time I drove by, it's like I almost
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: was going to hit a deer acrossing the road from
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: the property, and it was like somebody was saying, Hey,
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: there's the launch.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Wh aren't you hunting here?
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: And you know, I ended up bushogging that place and
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: putting out a camera and this buck was actually the first.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Picture I ever got at twenty twenty five. Oh, I
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: take that camera.
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: I take my cameras up every year. And uh, I
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: was laying in bed one one the evening, actually two
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: hours after a bush hoogg.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: And uh, he just happened to be there.
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: Man, he was curious, he's checking things out, and man
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: was he he was way beyond the game every he
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: was killing everybody in Bellot season.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: So that's cool, man.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: So did you kind of put the pieces together and
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: look at data and like have a strike mission on
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: this deer or so a kind conservative seit and he
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: happened to be there.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's it's weird.
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: So I usually, you know, I've all the people that
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: I've kind of looked up to, you know, they just
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: say the hunt right, just get them in a tree
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: and see what things happened. And with this deer is
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: a little different for the past, I'd say since I
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: got a picture of him, which was I guess was.
• 29:27
  Speaker 10: In May or June.
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: I was trying to figure out a way to find
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: out his exact path or his morning path or feeding
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: ground every morning. And you know, I walked on the
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: park property about I guess three, three or four times
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: just looking for something.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: And I ended up finding this tree.
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: And it was a four foot diameter tree as a
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: white oak, which is a giant oak here in Tennessee.
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: And I got my binoes, and I looked up and man,
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: this thing was absolutely loaded of acorns. And it was
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: pretty early for that to happen too around here, I guess.
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: And but anyways, I put up a camera there and
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: I figured out that in the morning, I got him
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: a picture right where he crossed the fence line and
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: then right when he was going towards.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: The acorns, and he was eating them every single morning.
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: So I knew just in and there I needed to
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: that's where I wanted to kill this deer. And I guess, uh,
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: from there on, I guess he only came in our
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: north wind, because north wind was the wind that blew
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: into his face. And and I was like, I don't
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: know how the heck I'm gonna kill us deer because
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: the only you know, he only comes on this wind,
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: and I can't cross his fence line because it's something
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: else property, right, And so I figured out a way
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: and the only wind I could possibly hunt him in
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: was a perfect southwest wind cross wind, and uh, it
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: definitely helped me out on Saturday.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: That's awesome, man, you know, I think that conservative appro
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: and being there at the exact right time is huge
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: for killing big deer.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Especially outside of the rut. And you know you said
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: acorns played a big part of it. That were you
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: scouting and finding the feed trees or you know you
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: said you kind of went in there trying to figure
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: that out, right, Did you already have all the trees
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: exactly kind of plotted out?
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: It was?
• 31:20
  Speaker 8: It's so it was so thick in there, and that's
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: why I bush howked it and it was so thick
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: in the past two seasons.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: You know, I never hunted it.
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: I just kind of let it at that area be
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: a you know, a zone where they are, you know,
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: completely safe.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: But I did see a.
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: Pattern with his deer where they would go from point
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: A to point B all the way to that oak
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: tree almost every single day. And sure enough he was
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: one of the deer that just I guess he designated
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: this tree as his feeding tree, so you could the
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: amount of rubs around the tree were kind of crazy too,
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: So it.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Was definitely his territory or his betting around. I got you.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: So from around the country, it seems like crops are
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: kind of coming out a little bit early this year.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: First off, you live in crop country, and then did
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: that play a role in kind of what's going on
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: where you're at.
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, so we we live in Bradley County, Tennessee.
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: He was killed on the outside of Bradley County, Tennessee,
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: and Bradley is very well known for crops and I
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: guess growing corn, soybeans, things like that. But the cool
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: part about this property is that it's bordered by not
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: only soybean field, but an edge of corn corn line.
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: And I could and every single night on the other
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: side of the oak tree, I was able to actually
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: ask for permission to sit on this lady's property and
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: watch him where I you know, she'd never she'd never
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: let me hunt, but she was. I was able to
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: watch him in that soybean field and so I got
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: to watch him grow, and it was you know, at
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: that moment, I was kind of like, I wish this
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: lady would.
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: Let me hunt.
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: But but man, I am so glad that I killed
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: him when he was hard for me.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: That's cool.
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: He's so pretty. So the funny part is, and all
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: my friends are giving me absolute crap about the shout
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: out to Toby Dean in twenty one South but because
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: he's great at that, but uh, I was. It was
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: on video, and I got him coming in and I
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: got him actually fighting this buck, which is actually part
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: of that story.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: But that's cool.
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: He actually fought a buck for about probably about ten
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: minutes before he came in, and which.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Is kind of really weird. I mean that really weird.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: But I guess they get territorial, yeah, pret past.
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: But I had it out and it was an absolute
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: torrential down poor from the hurricane that came in, Hurricane Heleen,
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: and man, I was out there for I guess from
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: five to seven. I saw him at seven, and then
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: he started fighting this buck and those were blowing and
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: I thought this, you know, I thought everything was history.
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: And sure enough, that younger buck that came down was
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: the one he was fighting, and he went right past me,
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: and then Macho he followed right behind him, and probably
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: about twenty five yards. Man, it was an absolute just
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: roller coaster, I guess of emotions.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: That's cool.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Man, Well, you have a channel called bear Level and
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I look forward to I want to see the experience
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: on videos.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: That that's cool, dude.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: So if you were looking forward here for the next week,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: you know, I know you don't have a tag in
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: your pocket, but I bet you got some buddies that
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: are thinking about it. You're still scheming on deer, right,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: If you had to think about the next week and
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: rank buck movement on a scale of one to ten,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: what would you rank it?
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: And why?
• 34:50
  Speaker 11: You know, it's funny you say that because I was
• 34:53
  Speaker 11: just talking to you, you know, a couple of minutes ago,
• 34:56
  Speaker 11: and my buddy, we're on a deer at one of
• 34:59
  Speaker 11: our places, and you know, he hadn't moved it all
• 35:02
  Speaker 11: since June and just kind of sticking around getting the
• 35:06
  Speaker 11: velvet pictures, you know, and.
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: Just today he started coming into our main food plot
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: and he's been hammering every single day. So tomorrow we're
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: actually targeting him. And I've actually seen i'd say over
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: fifteen different deer hit this food plot.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: And it's I think it's because it's just.
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: Right after this huge storm that you know, Center Country,
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: and they you know, I mean, I've seen them in
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: the crazy winds and crazy rain before, just kind of
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: like I was hind Macho Saturday.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: But I think after this.
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: Storm, they're ready to eat and they're ready to get
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: back in there and start moving around and figuring out
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: their patterns a little bit.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So on a scale of one to ten, What
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: are you going to call it? Oh, scale of one
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: to ten.
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: I'd say, I'd say I'd say high sevens man.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Who, that's pretty encouraging.
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: I know, I know it's pretty encouraging. But you know,
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: we've had south winds all all week long here in
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: southeast Tennessee and it's finally switching to the north and
• 36:12
  Speaker 8: it's finally cooling down really.
• 36:13
  Speaker 10: Quick in the evening.
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: So yeah, I think evening hunts is probably a high seven.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Man, Man, that sounds pretty good. We'll appreciate the report, dude,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Casey.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: My man Tony Peterson of Media of course, is on
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: the phone now, and uh, as always, Tony is a
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: wealth of knowledge. I've spent a lot of time already
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: on the phone with him before we got to this
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: because we had a lot to discuss. But it's deer
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: hunting time right now, Tony, it definitely is, buddy, Thanks
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: for having me on. Man, You're welcome.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Dude. How is Minnesota right now? Is it dry? Is
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: it wet? What's going on?
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: Uh?
• 36:48
  Speaker 12: Well, you know, you Southerner's always you guys from down
• 36:52
  Speaker 12: South and oak West always asked me what our water
• 36:54
  Speaker 12: situation is lake. I'm like, brother, we got fourteen thousand
• 36:56
  Speaker 12: lakes here, man, We.
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: We literally we don't dry out too often.
• 37:01
  Speaker 12: But yeah, it's we actually have pretty crazy conditions here.
• 37:05
  Speaker 12: Our woods are thicker than I think I've ever seen
• 37:07
  Speaker 12: because we got so much rain in June that it's
• 37:10
  Speaker 12: like there's a noticeable difference, you know, especially coming out
• 37:14
  Speaker 12: of last winter when we had really mild winter and
• 37:17
  Speaker 12: then we got just tons of rain and good growing
• 37:20
  Speaker 12: conditions this summer. It's like the animals are big and
• 37:24
  Speaker 12: the woods are like a jungle. It's kind of cool
• 37:26
  Speaker 12: out there.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that sounds fun.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Are you out there bushwhacking and getting deep in the
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: timber or are you hunting crops?
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Or like what's the move right now?
• 37:35
  Speaker 12: You know, I've been doing a little of all of
• 37:38
  Speaker 12: the above, you know, with my daughters, had them over
• 37:41
  Speaker 12: in Wisconsin and we did some stuff and they ended
• 37:43
  Speaker 12: up they ended up killing a spike buck and a
• 37:46
  Speaker 12: doe on the edge of a field on a private chunk.
• 37:49
  Speaker 10: I've got over there.
• 37:50
  Speaker 12: But I killed a dough just a couple of days
• 37:52
  Speaker 12: ago here in Minnesota on this place I just got
• 37:54
  Speaker 12: permission to hunt. And that was in the woods, kind
• 37:58
  Speaker 12: of on an acorn, kind of on a pond, and
• 38:00
  Speaker 12: right in the middle.
• 38:01
  Speaker 10: Of the thick stuff. So kind I've kind of been
• 38:04
  Speaker 10: all over man.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, have y'all had your first frost yet?
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: No?
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, So that's always the thing that I kind of
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: think about when you think about whitetails shifting their patterns
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: and all. You know, that first frost really has a
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: big effect on browse, right, and so right now you
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: just mentioned acorns or acorns excuse me, since we're talking
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: about Minnesota, and I'm sure that all that herbaceous growth
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: is still around as that first frost approaches. I mean,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: y'all's first frost has to be in the next week
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: or two. Is that going to change what the deer
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: are doing?
• 38:35
  Speaker 10: Dude?
• 38:35
  Speaker 12: You would think so. But we've been in We've been
• 38:38
  Speaker 12: in the eighties every day. It's been wild. We actually
• 38:41
  Speaker 12: have a cold front moved in last night. I'm going
• 38:43
  Speaker 12: hunting here right after this because I think there's going
• 38:46
  Speaker 12: to be some deer on the move. But even now,
• 38:48
  Speaker 12: it's still in the sixties. So it's pretty crazy, man.
• 38:52
  Speaker 12: But it's weird because you know, last year I was
• 38:55
  Speaker 12: baiting bears and kind of dealing with that situation, and
• 38:58
  Speaker 12: the acorn situation was nuts and you know, some of
• 39:01
  Speaker 12: the soft mass too, And then this year I'm not
• 39:04
  Speaker 12: seeing nearly as many acorns.
• 39:06
  Speaker 10: There's still plenty.
• 39:06
  Speaker 12: Out there, but I saw seven dos the other night,
• 39:09
  Speaker 12: seven dos and fawns off that stand where I killed
• 39:12
  Speaker 12: that one, and they all came in on an It
• 39:15
  Speaker 12: was eighty three degrees when I got out there.
• 39:18
  Speaker 10: Not a single one of them went to this little pond.
• 39:20
  Speaker 12: They all just ate acorns around it, And I'm like,
• 39:23
  Speaker 12: I kind of think it's a little bit of a
• 39:25
  Speaker 12: clue that they've been you know, they've had so much
• 39:27
  Speaker 12: good browse and so much greenery and now we kind
• 39:30
  Speaker 12: of have this limited mass thing happening and they're really
• 39:33
  Speaker 12: keyed in on it, and so it's just it's cool
• 39:36
  Speaker 12: to see because that's it's not going to last that
• 39:38
  Speaker 12: long for us here, because it doesn't feel like there's
• 39:40
  Speaker 12: nearly as many out there.
• 39:41
  Speaker 10: So it's sort of like a you know, like a
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: typical mass.
• 39:44
  Speaker 12: Thing, right, like you better get in and get on it,
• 39:45
  Speaker 12: figure it out, and then you know, expected to die
• 39:49
  Speaker 12: on you because it's certainly going to.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: So you just mentioned there that you feel really good
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: about to not in like the next upcoming days.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: What's the main factor on that.
• 39:58
  Speaker 10: So a couple of things.
• 40:00
  Speaker 12: You know, we had a cold front come in, so
• 40:01
  Speaker 12: it's you know, we're twenty degrees colder today than we've
• 40:04
  Speaker 12: been for two weeks, so you know when you have
• 40:07
  Speaker 12: that going for you. But also we were like in
• 40:11
  Speaker 12: this weather holding pattern that was just calm.
• 40:14
  Speaker 10: It was perfect fishing.
• 40:15
  Speaker 12: Weather, like calm, sunny, just you know, eighty degrees, t
• 40:19
  Speaker 12: short weather, T shirt weather, shorts weather, whatever. And now
• 40:24
  Speaker 12: last night it was real windy, and today it's just
• 40:27
  Speaker 12: more windy as this front pushes through. So I know
• 40:31
  Speaker 12: where I'm going to go sit tonight. I know there's
• 40:33
  Speaker 12: I know there's a little waite acorns in there, and
• 40:35
  Speaker 12: there's one apple tree that I bet deer going to
• 40:38
  Speaker 12: come check today because it's been windy for the first
• 40:41
  Speaker 12: time in a couple of weeks, like really windy, and
• 40:45
  Speaker 12: so I kind of think, I mean, I have a
• 40:47
  Speaker 12: stand set up specifically for this apple tree, and there's
• 40:49
  Speaker 12: some acorns that it'll play off of, but I kind
• 40:52
  Speaker 12: of think that there's going to be deer coming do
• 40:53
  Speaker 12: a quick sweep around there and check it.
• 40:55
  Speaker 10: And keep moving.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: So it seems like around the country, the word is
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: that crop for getting harvested early. Are you seeing that
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: there too?
• 41:03
  Speaker 12: You know, I haven't seen that around my house, but
• 41:05
  Speaker 12: I'm not I'm not hunting in a place with a
• 41:07
  Speaker 12: ton of egg. But I did see it when I
• 41:09
  Speaker 12: was with my daughters in Wisconsin, which was.
• 41:12
  Speaker 10: I guess, you know, eight nine days ago.
• 41:14
  Speaker 12: Now they were starting to cut corn for silage, and
• 41:19
  Speaker 12: you were starting to see some crops come out, and
• 41:21
  Speaker 12: I think that I actually think that factored into a
• 41:24
  Speaker 12: little bit on how we ended up getting on the
• 41:26
  Speaker 12: deer we did. So it's it's definitely happening.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Mm hm, gotcha.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just didn't know if that would play into
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: your strategy or it seems as if, you know, you're
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: kind of removed from that bed to food crop pattern there,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: so you kind of looking at somewhat of a main
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: food source hunt to not huh.
• 41:42
  Speaker 12: Well, you know, I'm I'm hunting here in the suburbs
• 41:44
  Speaker 12: and there are no fields around me there. Yeah, there's
• 41:47
  Speaker 12: a farm next to this property that has it's a
• 41:49
  Speaker 12: sod farm, so there's no food in there. It's just
• 41:53
  Speaker 12: you know, yard grass essentially, and so these deer, they
• 41:58
  Speaker 12: live on a pretty heavy you know, brows and masked pattern.
• 42:03
  Speaker 12: You know, like a lot of the other places I
• 42:05
  Speaker 12: hunted or I hunt, I would still be on some
• 42:07
  Speaker 12: kind of bed to food thing. This is this is
• 42:10
  Speaker 12: just a different deal here. It's just kind of a
• 42:12
  Speaker 12: unique situation. And it's you know, it's this is a
• 42:15
  Speaker 12: tiny property. It's only twenty five acres and so there's
• 42:18
  Speaker 12: just a few pockets where you're like, well, they're either
• 42:19
  Speaker 12: going to come through here to.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Eat or not.
• 42:21
  Speaker 12: And so you know, you kind of it's a small
• 42:23
  Speaker 12: property thing. You kind of cross your fingers and hope
• 42:25
  Speaker 12: they show up tonight.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, are you using camera data to make
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: decisions on stuff like this?
• 42:30
  Speaker 12: So no, And the reason why I'm not is the
• 42:34
  Speaker 12: landowner's wife doesn't want anybody to have cameras out there.
• 42:37
  Speaker 10: She goes and hikes around behind her house.
• 42:39
  Speaker 12: Yeah, so I go into this place blind and I
• 42:43
  Speaker 12: kind of love it. I mean, I wish I could
• 42:45
  Speaker 12: use cameras there, but I'm you know, I know, there's
• 42:48
  Speaker 12: a couple of big deer in there that swing through.
• 42:51
  Speaker 12: Sometimes there's a couple of really nice bucks. But I'm
• 42:53
  Speaker 12: mostly I'm mostly looking for a dough and kind of
• 42:57
  Speaker 12: getting ready for to take my daughters in there, and
• 43:00
  Speaker 12: it's kind of using it as a it's sort of
• 43:01
  Speaker 12: a release valve for me because it's right next to
• 43:03
  Speaker 12: my house and it's just a little hunt with like
• 43:06
  Speaker 12: low standards. But you know, I went out there a
• 43:09
  Speaker 12: couple of days ago and I had seven deer come
• 43:12
  Speaker 12: through and shot a big dough and made a good
• 43:14
  Speaker 12: shot on her, and.
• 43:15
  Speaker 10: It was just a it was like a blast.
• 43:17
  Speaker 12: I mean, it was one of those sits when it
• 43:19
  Speaker 12: broke loose and those deer started showing up. I had
• 43:21
  Speaker 12: deer around me on every side of me for forty
• 43:24
  Speaker 12: five minutes and I ended up killing one and it
• 43:26
  Speaker 12: was just like, you know, just one of those fun deals.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that's cool, especially whenever it's you know, I
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: don't mean this in a bad way, but it's kind
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: of low pressure because it's right next to the house
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: and you know, you you're everything is on the menu,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: per se, you know, dose bucks, whatever. It's just like,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: let's go have a good time and do some hunting
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: and and I'm thankful you get to do that.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: For sure, if you look forward to the next week,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know what your weather patterns like that are
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: like there, but here it's very consistent, and uh, you know,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: it seems like around the country that's that is kind
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: of the case. Do you feel like you're going to
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: see good movement throughout the next week?
• 44:07
  Speaker 10: I think next week's gonna be really good. Just by
• 44:09
  Speaker 10: looking at the forecast, Yeah, yeah, I.
• 44:12
  Speaker 12: Think I think we're sliding into the right time where
• 44:14
  Speaker 12: it's gonna be, you know, pretty soon we're gonna be
• 44:17
  Speaker 12: hunting scrapes and the weather is going to be just
• 44:19
  Speaker 12: generally a little cooler, and it's it's starting to break
• 44:21
  Speaker 12: in the right direction. I don't I guess I should.
• 44:24
  Speaker 12: I don't know if this is unfortunate or not. But
• 44:25
  Speaker 12: I'm gonna be down at Louisiana fishing next week, so
• 44:28
  Speaker 12: I'm not going to get the ground truth this stuff.
• 44:31
  Speaker 12: But just by looking at the forecast, I feel like
• 44:33
  Speaker 12: it's gonna be pretty good.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: That's cool, all right, right it on a scale of
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: one to ten for buck movement, then for the next week.
• 44:39
  Speaker 10: I'm gonna give her a seven point five.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Buddy at said point five, dude, that's pretty optimistic, and
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: from a guy like you, I believe it, so it's
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: time to get in the woods to Minnesota.
• 44:49
  Speaker 10: We'll see, We'll see buddy.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Hey Man, I hope you have a great hunt tonight.
• 44:54
  Speaker 10: Awesome, thanks man.
• 44:56
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• 45:01
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