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Cyclone football & hoops with Travis Hines, Steven M. Sipple talks Huskers & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Hour number two Miller and Condon glad you're with us.
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  We're talk sports with you for another hour.
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  Bottom of the hour Steven M simple he covers the Nebraska
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  Cornhuskers. Matt Rule got an extension here
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  today. We'll get to that with sip
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  bottom of the hour sip Husker illustrated part of on three
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  media. Trent will make some pick circus
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  sports sponsor those. Let's get some Iowa State
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  conversation in here. Arizona State and the Iowa State
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  do they collide at is it noon? I think it's noon on TNT or down
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  the hall here on 100.3 the bus. And Travis Hines, columnist from
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  the Des Moines Register, joins us.
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  Pick his brain on that and some college, some Iowa State hoops
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  as well. Hello, Travis Hines, How are
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  you? I'm doing excellent.
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  How are you guys? Doing well.
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  I got to ask you this, and I know you cover Iowa State, not
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  Utah, but this winning half the way.
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  He's just flaunting, just giving your marketing company the
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  middle finger when it comes to the availability report.
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  And I might be the only one that cares.
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  Maybe Trent to an extent. Not like you.
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  Not like me. It drives me nuts that these are
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  in place for a reason. We just sought the NBA, for
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  crying out loud, with LeBron James and that inside
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  information. Did your mark set any, I guess,
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  levels of punishment for not following the letter of the law
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  with these availability reports? Because Whittingham has given to
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  your mark and the conference the middle finger, in my opinion,
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  Travis. Yeah.
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  I mean, I think, and I wrote this when the Big 12 announced
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  this really on the eve of the season, that these availability
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  reports are only worthwhile if everybody is on the same page
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  and delivering the same level of consistency and transparency.
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  Otherwise there is an incentive to cheat or to fudge or, you
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  know, obfuscate whatever word you want to put on.
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  And I think it was if, if everybody can't treat these the
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  same, then you're rewarding cheating.
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  And I think that is why you need to have strong controls and
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  punishments in place. And I think as good as and
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  welcome as availability reports are, I know the big twelves was
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  sort of hastily implemented. And I think it was like 5 days
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  before Iowa State had to leave for Ireland when they got the
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  news that they were going to have to be doing and we're going
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  to be the Guinea pigs because they're playing in a week 0
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  game. So I the Big 12 credit for
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  implementing them and maybe a little bit of grace for trying
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  to figure this out a little bit on the fly.
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  But ultimately, if you're going to have something like this, it
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  behooves the league to make it matter, right?
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  Otherwise it gets messy and it sets a president to where if you
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  fudge with the rules, if you play games, it gives you a
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  competitive advantage. And I don't that's the exact
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  opposite of what was trying to be achieved with these
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  availability reports. Well, that availability report
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  has a whole lot of people outward doubtful for Arizona
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  State, including the two biggest with Tyson and Levitt.
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  Levitt listed as out and doubtful for Tyson.
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  It just, you've seen it, Travis. It completely changes the
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  complexion of this Arizona State team.
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  They go from certainly a contender in the Big 12 to I
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  think and also ran in the conference.
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  The gap is that big with those two guys.
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  Is it, does that make it more challenging kind of previewing
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  and setting up a week when you have this narrative and this
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  injury that just completely changes what we think about
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  Arizona State? I think a little bit because I
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  think for Iowa State and for, you know, how we try to talk to
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  our readers about it like this is for Iowa State right now,
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  right? When you've lost three games,
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  you know, it matters what the other team is.
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  It matters who they have to play.
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  But ultimately, when you're in this position that Iowa State is
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  in, trying to climb out of a hole, trying to rebuild
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  expectations after your loftiest and what looked to be a
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  chainable, attainable goals are now off the table.
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  I think it's much more important to show success, to show
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  improvement, to show some sort of consistency.
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  Then it even really matters wins or losses.
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  And obviously, I think the fan base would probably disagree
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  with me on that last part. But I do think it is important
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  for Iowa State to just find some level footing here so this thing
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  doesn't spiral to where you're looking at going into that
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  Oklahoma State game trying to get bowl eligible.
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  And obviously Arizona State being without Levitt, looking
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  likely to be without Tyson makes that winning part easier for
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  Iowa State. But I think it'll it'll it won't
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  be an empty victory, obviously, if Iowa State doesn't play well,
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  but it's going to leave people feeling uneasy.
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  And when you talk about process over results like Campbell does,
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  I do think it's fair to judge Iowa State not just by the final
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  score on Saturday, but like, are they moving this thing forward?
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  Because they've been going backwards to varying degrees
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  over the last three games. So when you were up there on
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  Tuesday listening to Mauser and Campbell and a variety of
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  players, did you a sense of urgency creeping into the
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  program at all for this week, Travis?
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  You know, I don't know that urgency would be the word that I
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  would use. I think there are there are
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  hints of that. But I think really what it's
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  about up there right now is a little bit of recalibration, not
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  only of expectations, but kind of of the the scope of their
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  thinking to where you can't be when you go from Big 12 title
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  college Football playoffs to three straight losses.
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  And like the Liberty bowls on the table.
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  I think everybody tries to get a little bit of tunnel vision in
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  the best way possible to where everything outside of my control
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  is outside of my control. Can I make my block?
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  I'm Taylor Mauser, Can I call better plays?
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  If I'm Matt Campbell, you know, how do I get how do I reach my
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  team? How do I move them in the right
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  direction? And I think that right now is
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  what's going on up there. I don't think, you know, I think
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  there's urgency, certainly, but sometimes urgency can feel like
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  panic. And I don't think that's where
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  they're at right now, but I do think like emotionally, there's
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  probably some work to do to try to get yourself in a headspace
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  where the the things you truly wanted and thought you could get
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  are no longer on the table. You know, how do you find
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  meaning? How do you find motivation in
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  the day-to-day? And I think that's kind of what
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  they've got to figure out, you know, this week and going
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  forward feels like it. Goes hand in hand with the
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  quarterback too. Rocco Bect is not playing well.
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  Is he trying to do too much, forcing those balls in there, A
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  couple of just absolutely awful throws that he made on Saturday
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  against BYU? Is it knowing that and we're
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  going to have to probably score to win games?
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  Is he, is he putting too much on his shoulders?
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  Is that maybe a reason that we've seen some of this downturn
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  in his play? I think that's certainly part of
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  it. And you've heard, you know, Matt
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  Campbell talk about the team, not Rockelbeck specifically, but
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  I think he's probably talking about Rocco of trying to do too
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  much, of trying to push the envelope of, you know, really
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  trying to put the team on your shoulders when really all you
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  got to do is your job. And I think part of the issue
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  here too, is that if you look over the last three or four
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  games, you know, I don't know what level of trust or comfort
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  exists between Rocco backed and all of his wide receivers.
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  Because we talked to to Rocco a couple weeks ago about how he
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  brought in the receivers and had his own edit done to talk about
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  some of the things where there was a disconnect between how he
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  was viewing things and how the wide receivers were doing
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  things. And if you got a guy trying to
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  do too much and a guy who doesn't necessarily trust or
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  have full comfort with his receiving groups, I think that's
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  what you kind of get, You know, when you see on Saturday is a
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  guy who isn't sharp, who's probably overthinking and isn't
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  playing up to his level of ability.
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  And with what IO State needs Rocco back to do to win football
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  games, that's that's a pretty tough mix there.
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  To basketball with Travis Hines coming up here in a minute.
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  Travis, of course, the columnist when it comes to Iowa State for
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  the Des Moines Register. I want to ask you about BYU
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  because trying to get a feel for this conference.
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  I thought Utah would get him two weeks ago and I didn't think
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  your BYU was going to come in after they're playing their
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  archrival. That emotional let down coming
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  to Ames, Barabach Meyer has my undivided attention.
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  I think he's going to be really good and a real problem for
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  schools in the Big 12. The BYU team that you saw last
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  week, can they win this conference?
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  I think absolutely. I mean, I think that they're
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  walking a little bit of a tightrope because they don't
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  have overwhelming talent, but they do remind me of some of
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  Campbell's best teams where they find a way to win.
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  And you're right about Bachmeier.
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  Like, he was really interesting to watch.
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  He's got that patient running style.
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  I think he made some throws that, you know, Iowa State
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  probably didn't expect him to be able to make where he really put
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  it in tight spaces. It helped that he wasn't really
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  under pressure after the first half at all.
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  But yeah, I really like BYU. I mean, it's hard for me to, you
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  know, brown them, especially when I think Texas Tech is so
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  much more talented. But I like certainly when you
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  look at what Claudia Sataki has done with this team the last two
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  years, I think pounding them out or underestimating them is
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  probably a mistake. Let's jump to basketball with
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  Travis Hines, and hoops will begin officially on Monday, but
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  we got a couple of exhibition games.
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  Taban Lipsy, I think the conversation has to start with
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  him. Not just if he'll be ready for
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  Monday or the next game, but most importantly, is this an
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  injury that's going to linger because a healthy Taban Lipsy
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  completely changes the equation of this Iowa State team.
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  I think the, the sense when you're talking to people around
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  the program and in the program is that there's not a concern
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  about this being a lingering issue for Tame and Lipsy going
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  forward, that they feel like the program, the rehab has gone very
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  well. He's on track to play Monday and
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  they're not going to play him until he's 100% healthy.
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  I think the, the bigger fear is that there's going to be other
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  unrelated injuries going forward for him because it's been, you
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  know, such a difficult health wise for him, you know, really
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  even going back to high school and that ACL tear.
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  And I know that like TJ takes that extremely seriously, like
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  Tayman's practice load is. Very.
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  Closely monitored throughout the year and I would not be remotely
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  surprised if his practice time is hugely curtailed this year in
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  an effort to keep him healthy. Because I do think with him
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  healthy, obviously I'm not breaking news here that this
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  makes them a much better basketball team and it unlocks a
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  lot of other options for them. So keeping him healthy is
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  certainly going to be top of mind for TJ Otzelberger the
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  entire program up there this winter.
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  Enjoyed your column on I think it was Tuesday about the about
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  the team and some of the newcomers of what you've seen so
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  far. I didn't see a minute of
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  Creighton. I watched the first half of the
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  Northwestern game. What struck me from your piece,
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  because we know that TJ, since TJ's got there, you have to play
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  defense to play for TVJ Otzelberger, I think you called
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  it still a work in progress. The defense would do you notice
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  they're behind her. Is that TJ?
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  Who thinks they're behind defensively at this point?
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  I think they're behind only when measured against the standard of
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  what we've be at their best. I think they'll get there.
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  I don't really have that big a concern, but watching it,
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  they're really good at the point of attack.
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  Like when the the ball crosses half court and they know the
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  plan, you go, you trap this, you pressure there.
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  They're really good at that. I thought where they got a
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  little leaky or a little loose was when Northwestern move the
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  ball from side to side two or three times and kind of got them
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  in a scramble and rotation situation, which is really
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  difficult to do at the level that Iowa State has done in the
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  past. And I, I think they'll get
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  there. I think a big part of the way
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  that they constructed this roster was to add some speed,
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  add a little bit of length and athleticism to allow them to do
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  that better. And it's not remotely surprising
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  to see a team without its starting point guard and with
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  like, what, 8 or 9 newcomers not be at the A+ level in October.
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  It's probably going to take them a little bit to get there, but I
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  think that is part of the natural progression of a team
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  and of this defense that asks so much of guys, you know, for the
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  full 30 seconds on every possession.
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  I don't know that people fully appreciate the intensity that
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  Iowa State plays is defensive with and how many decisions each
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  guy has to make on a possession, especially when they get in
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  rotation. You know, one of the names that
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  popped out was Dominic Nelson, the transfer They came in from
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  Utah Valley. Remind me, was this the guy that
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  after they found out the Mason Williams injury was a little
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  worse, they kind of re engaged with him and and re recruited
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  him again because if memory serves, they got Mason Williams.
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  It felt like they kind of backed off.
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  Nelson then saw the medicals and said, now let's go back up there
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  and my do I have the story right?
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  Man, I'm in the middle of football season.
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  I can't. Remember but.
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  I do think like what what Nelson gives them, especially in light
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  of that injury, is another a little pop offensively off the
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  bench. And I think it'll be really
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  interesting to see how that develops because, you know,
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  Nelson was the focal point of his offense the last year at
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  Utah Valley. And now I think he'll still be a
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  focal point when he's on the floor.
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  But it's coming in in a dramatically different
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  environment or ecosystem where you're probably not going to be
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  the focal point of a defense when you come in off the bench
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  and you're you're looking to your left and right.
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  And there's Joshua Jefferson, even Mam Chilovich and Payman
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  Lipsy. And I think that's a huge
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  opportunity for him to be able to attack defenses and probably
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  have left on his plate, both in terms of what a defense is
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  throwing at him and what an offense is asking of him.
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  And it'll be interesting to see, does that allow him to thrive or
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  is there an adjustment period there?
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  And certainly the early returns, you know, suggest that that's
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  going to be a role, you know, well suited for him.
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  Torre real deal. Looks like it to me.
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  I mean, I think a big thing about freshmen when you see them
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  is do they look comfortable and are they able to play at the
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  speed of the game? And I thought Torre certainly
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  look like that against Northwestern.
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  And again, like he's in the same position.
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  Everything they've asked him to do for his, what, 50 or 60
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  minutes on the court of these exhibitions are more than
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  they're like to ask of him throughout the season when Damon
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  Lipsy comes back. And I think if you can have a
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  smaller, narrower, more defined role as a freshman, that allows
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  you to thrive because there's so much being asked of you that is
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  brand new. When you're that young and you
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  add in that you're an international student as well,
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  where the entire everything is new to you from the minute you
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  wake up-to-the-minute, you go to sleep, that if they can do that,
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  I think that bodes very well for him.
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  But I do think like, he's a guy that looks like he belongs at
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  Iowa State and in the Big 12 without any question.
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  One more for me on the local front, Eric Mulder comes back
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  home. He comes in from Indiana,
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  Purdue, Fort Wayne and felt like maybe a depth piece.
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  He played well on Sunday against Northwestern, gave him some
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  minutes is there. It's not that he's going to be
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  playing 25 minutes a game, but maybe potentially a little bit
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  bigger role for Eric Mulder coming back for his final season
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  to college hoops. Yeah, I thought it was huge for
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  him to play as well as he did on Sunday because you know, when
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  the Dominican play, that was the second big to play, the first
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  big off the bench, which tells you that the staff thought that
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  he was probably going to be their number 2.
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  And then Mulder comes in and outplayed him on Sunday.
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  And I think like that, the best thing that can happen for Iowa
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  State at that position is competition in my mind, because
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  you want, you know, those guys, I think they're pretty closely
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  grouped. You can and it's certainly out
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  in front, but if they can continually push each other
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  throughout the season and if TJ has options to go to, I think
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  that is a huge bonus for Iowa State.
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  And I thought Mulder was really good on Sunday.
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  And I think the other thing too, when you look back over the last
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  four years, the big that Iowa State have gotten better as the
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  year have gone by. Like there were some Novembers
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  where you're looking at Robert Jones, you're looking at Brad
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  Chatfield and it's like, man, I don't know if these guys can
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  play and then by January they're not superstars, but they are Big
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  12 contributors. And so again, if this this is
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  the baseline for both Plato and Molder, I think that is should
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  make Iowa State fans pretty optimistic about what this looks
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  like, you know, when we get to Big 12 play in a couple.
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  Months. It's football season start NBA
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  season for me. Yet did Curtis Jones make the
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  Nuggets? He's on a two way deal, so he'll
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  be up and down throughout the year I think.
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  I think they like him a lot, but obviously you know, Denver's,
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  you know, playing for for titles when you got a guy like Yokich.
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  So it'll be interesting to see how much he's up and down.
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  Good stuff, Travis, thanks for doing this.
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  No Cyclone Insider this week. You guys will be back next week.
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  You and Eugene appreciate you sitting in here talking cyclones
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  with us. Travis Hines, enjoy your
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  weekend. Thank you.
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  We'll read you as we always do at desmoinesregister.com.
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  Thanks, Travis. Thank you.
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  Take care. Yep, good to talk to you, Travis
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  Hines as we check in on Iowa State.
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  I know Jones had a decent preseason.
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  Good for him. Yes, that's a deal.
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  He can. Shoot it, though.
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  He can shoot it, that's for sure.
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  Let's do this before we go to break.
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  And by the way, Stephen M Sipple will join us on the other side.
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  Do you have a feel on this game, Huskers?
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  USC Yeah, I like Nebraska. You'd like Nebraska.
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  Let me rephrase that. I like Nebraska this week.
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  This week and the polls points, it's USC travelling.
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  East. And it's cold you.
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  Know and it's night. It's night and.
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  Nebraska. Let me find the Lincoln weather
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  on Is it going? To rain, that was something that
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  I had saw. Lincoln weather.
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  Let's see Saturday. A little missed.
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  Yeah, not much, nothing, no, and 20% chance all.
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  Right. And this is fall back weekend.
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  I hate that. Why is that?
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  I just how does it impact you? Well, it's dark at 5:00, sure,
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  and I don't like that. Well, are you outside?
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  Yes, yes, yes I am. Walking Jet.
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  Walking Jet. Yeah.
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  You know what really used to bug me?
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  This. The first Monday or first couple
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  of days of fall, back when I used to do afternoons and the
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  afternoon drive back home. It seems like it's for whatever.
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  Nobody's used to driving home in the dark, right?
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  And you know, if you're doing 60, now you're doing 45.
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  And yeah, and just because you, I got to put this public
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  announcement out there for everybody that drives N, just
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  because you live in Story County doesn't mean you get to drive in
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  the left lane the whole way to Story County.
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  I-35. There's three lanes.
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  If you have Story County on your plate, doesn't entitle you to
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  the passing lane, but it sure seems like it.
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  With those people, get the foot on the gas is what you're saying
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  it. Just drives me nuts and it's
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  always Story County. They don't own the left lane.
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  Get the hell out of the way, mother.
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  Steven M Simple talks with myself and Ken on Nebraska
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  football. I mean, I have a radio show we
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  have. Callers I pay.
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  Attention to my Twitter notifications and all that.
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  There's definitely some frustration.
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  We talk Cornhuskers, and you never know what else is going to
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  come up with 30 years on the Nebraska beat.
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  Here's Stephen M Simple. As long as they're paying me to
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  talk. I'm just going to keep.
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  Doing it. And welcome back as promised.
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  Let's get to him. Stephen M simple from on three
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  media huskerillustrated.com. It's USC.
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  It's Nebraska coming up on Saturday.
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  Sip joins us in his regular spot here on a Thursday under the
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  lights Memorial Stadium in Lincoln.
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  NBC has the television 630 kickoff Sip trend.
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  Ken, thanks are coming on. Let's go back before we go
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  forward and a much needed victory over Northwestern.
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  Coming off the disappointing loss to Minnesota, Northwestern,
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  it was a tougher game than maybe some thought it was going to be.
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  But at the end of the day, the Huskers are six and two and bull
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  eligibility. I guess where I want to start
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  with the SIP is this running back, Emmett Johnson.
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  I remember we discussed this, you know, prior to the season.
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  He thought he was a good running back.
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  Wasn't sure the depth in the room except this guy's having an
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  outstanding year. There's one other kind of
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  prognostication I was wrong about, which is the line is
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  incredibly long this year. I I didn't expect this from
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  Emmett Johnson. He's having that, he's
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  exceeding, but he's exceeding a lot of people's.
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  Expectations. Sure.
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  He has become a very good back and now they don't have any
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  depth. They're playing, there's playing
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  a true freshman behind him and they usually won't give him more
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  than 5 carries. So Emmett has to carry a heavy
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  load and you know they don't run the quarterback here, so that
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  increases his load too. But he handles it very well.
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  He's a durable, not a big back means five 10200 he's fine.
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  He's just I don't know the thing I say about him all the time.
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  You know, he's not he's a double S hitter, he's not a home run
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  hitter, but he's he's very reliable and he's relentless.
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  I mean, he's a relentless running back.
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  He fights he fights for every yard and he's pretty
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  well-rounded and he doesn't fumble.
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  He's fumbled one time in 146 carries.
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  So that's good. It's a good picture.
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  Not he's He's a critical element this week, Every week, really.
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  This week, USC can mention it. Night under the lights,
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  blackout, going to be a great environment.
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  This one feels big. It feels different because of
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  what it's still in front of them.
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  UCLA. The UCLA has had a little bit of
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  a bump, but they've certainly took a step back last week
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  against Indiana. That Penn State road trip does
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  obviously not look nearly as daunting as it did on coming
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  into the season. This still has a chance to be a
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  very special season for Nebraska, but it starts on
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  Saturday night. Tell us a little bit about this.
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  When the build up and you guys have gotten excited over there
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  for a lot of games and it usually hasn't gone well the
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  last couple of decades, is there a little bit more juice for this
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  one? Just knowing what could still be
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  in front of them. Yeah, Trent, there is and there
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  and these, you know, there's kind of what you're alluding to
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  is a lot of these big games that have happened in the month of
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  November. It's been it's been horrible for
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  Nebraska. Nebraska is one in seven in the
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  month of November under rule, under Matt rule, Nebraska since
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  2000. I'll give you a stat that the
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  Iowa fans will like. I think this is right.
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  It's right for Nebraska for sure.
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  Nebraska is is the four in the month of November going back to
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  2019. And Iowa I think is 19 to 5.
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  So it shows you the difference in the programs and what why,
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  you know, what's the deal? You can't, you don't win games
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  in November. You're not going to have very
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  good seasons then Nebraska is terrible.
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  This game is a blackout. You know, we're calling it a
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  blackout here. So they're all the fans are
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  asked to wear black. They're going to wear black
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  uniforms. You know, this is this is only
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  the second ranked team. I think Nebraska's played,
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  right. I mean, it was just Michigan and
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  now this. So it's big from that
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  standpoint. If Nebraska has any designs at
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  all on being a playoff team, which they still do at 2 losses.
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  If you win this and you win at UCLA, that conversation kind of
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  gets actually legitimate. So there's no, there's a lot
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  going on here. Now there's trepidation too,
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  because it's not people are pretty realistic here.
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  I mean, it's, I think there's, I don't know, there's such thing
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  as hopeful trepidation. You know, there's comments,
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  there's some hopefulness mixed with trepidation.
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  I guess I closed so I quit rambling with this, OK, USC
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  bullied Michigan, all right. And that, that that alone
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  concerns you. They bullied Michigan up front
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  and and Michigan bullied Nebraska up front.
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  So, you know, all bets are off here.
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  By the way, Iowa. 23 and three in November, dating back to
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  2019. So even better.
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  Yeah, thank. You, yes, 23 and three.
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  That's unbelievable. I want to stop there for a
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  second and dip my cap to Iowa. That is November.
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  I mean, you know, we all three of us have covered this sport
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  for a long time. November's a a bear.
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  I mean, just a bear. You're you're beat up.
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  It's cold. A team that can go 23 and 3 has
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  all of my admiration. God bless Iowa.
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  I did not know that. Either so that that is a heck of
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  a stat, no doubt about it. Sip.
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  Let's get into the news of the day Matt rule extension.
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  I think it takes them to 2032. Was this on the table prior to
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  the Penn State Buzz or was the Penn State Buzz did this maybe
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  expedite that? Are the two connected at all?
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  Sipped normally they are, yeah. I'd have to say they're
• 25:55
  connected. I don't have any proof that this
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  was on the table before James Franklin got, you know, got
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  fired on October 12th. That was October 12th.
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  So was this brewing before then? I'd be surprised.
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  But I will say this Matt rules aggressive in this in that in
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  this in this regard, the contract type situation regard
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  he's he's aggressive in the pursuit of new contracts of, of
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  more money, etcetera. It's in his nature.
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  So it's I don't want to rule out that it was something he was
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  pushing for behind the scenes. But I, my guess is no.
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  Now I would say this I and I and I am driving right now.
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  So I don't have all the terms of this new deal in front of me.
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  It's just broke. But I know that if you look at
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  this this new this we'll call an extension.
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  It's not he they don't up his salary.
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  You know, they keep it stays the same in the late stages of it.
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  Not that I think will be important to Nebraska fan.
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  He's already already OK, I'll just put it to you this way.
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  If you look at Matt Rules current contract before this
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  extension and Kurt Stignetti's new contract, Rules starting in
• 27:22
  2027 was going to make more than Stignetti and his new deal in
• 27:28
  20/27/2028 and and beyond. So I think that Troy, Dan and
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  the AD had to be very careful that you didn't raise Rules
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  money any further because he's already, he's already making
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  more than the best, you know, coaches in America.
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  So he got this right, is what I'm telling you.
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  Dannon got this right. I wondered about it as we heard,
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  you know, we heard for the last, I don't want to say 3 or 4 days
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  that this was coming. And I didn't know what the terms
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  were, though. I just know the extension was
• 28:02
  coming. Would Dannon increase his pay
• 28:06
  markedly and how could you justify it?
• 28:09
  Well, he did. So there's that end of that
• 28:12
  conversation and I think a huge. Component from Pete Thammel of
• 28:15
  ESPNA, $15 million buyout this year that would be have to pay
• 28:20
  to Nebraska. So I mean, these contract
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  extensions, it bothers me all the time.
• 28:24
  Well, he's off the table. No, he's not.
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  People want to go pay somebody, they can go, go and if you want
• 28:28
  to leave, they can still leave. But a $15 million back to
• 28:31
  Nebraska, if he takes another job for this year, yeah, that
• 28:34
  does effectively eliminate him on that front.
• 28:38
  The temperature with rule. How concerned was was the fan
• 28:41
  base about Penn State, Obviously the connections there growing up
• 28:44
  at Penn State, all all the things that went along with it,
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  yes. How concerned were Nebraska fans
• 28:49
  before today? OK, You know, Trent, I don't
• 28:53
  like to dodge questions, but I also am careful not to speak for
• 28:57
  people. I How concerned were Nebraska
• 29:01
  fans? I think it depends who you talk
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  to. And that's how it was.
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  That's what I found. I, you know, there was a, there
• 29:07
  were people, it wasn't hard to find people who said let him go.
• 29:10
  I mean, we, they can find it hasn't.
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  It's not like he's had resounding success here.
• 29:15
  You know, he's a couple games over 500, I think the last I
• 29:20
  checked in. So now my thought though, and
• 29:24
  again, I don't like to speak for people.
• 29:26
  Everybody has their own thoughts, but my thought was you
• 29:29
  don't want to blow this up again.
• 29:31
  I was surprised at people that were sort of OK with moving on.
• 29:38
  Like really, you just want to blow up an entire staff and
• 29:43
  support staff and start again. I, I don't think that that's
• 29:49
  what this program needs now. I do, I say, would I say that
• 29:55
  I'm 100% certain that Matt rule has this program on the, the,
• 30:00
  the, the right trajectory. Not I can't say that, but I feel
• 30:04
  pretty good about it. I feel good enough to give him
• 30:07
  an extension if I'm the AD. So there's no guarantees in this
• 30:10
  stuff. I think you had to get it out
• 30:12
  today because there's, there's risk and waiting.
• 30:15
  Obviously they play USC and they're not favored on their
• 30:19
  home field. So there was risk you had to get
• 30:22
  it done today or tomorrow. Although SIP I'm seeing.
• 30:25
  A lot and this doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but
• 30:28
  boy, there's a lot of professional handicappers that
• 30:30
  love Nebraska this week with Lincoln Riley taking his team
• 30:33
  east does not go well. It's about a touchdown favour.
• 30:36
  So when you look at USC and I'm glad that you're going to see
• 30:39
  them this week because I was seized them in a couple of
• 30:42
  weeks. So I'm anxious to pick your
• 30:44
  brain next time we talk about about this Trojan outfit.
• 30:47
  Obviously we all know my Aleva terrific quarterback, UNLV
• 30:50
  transfer, but they're scheduled in the big 10 so far.
• 30:53
  Sip. I don't know if you get into
• 30:54
  that. Just the three wins a Purdue
• 30:57
  Michigan State. I'll give you the win over
• 30:59
  Michigan nice win there. Obviously, the tough loss to
• 31:02
  Illinois and then the last time they saw the field was in the
• 31:05
  rain I'd South Bend against Notre Dame.
• 31:08
  What do you see when you look at this USC squad?
• 31:11
  Oh. I mean, offensively I'm really
• 31:14
  impressed with what what they offer.
• 31:17
  Defensively, not as much, but offensively they're they're it
• 31:23
  starts with Lincoln Riley as a play caller.
• 31:25
  I mean, that alone is it is. It's formidable.
• 31:30
  You have to pay attention to that.
• 31:32
  I watched the game last year, You know, I was out there in LA
• 31:34
  and he's one of those play callers that a layman like
• 31:39
  myself can see. Oh, yeah.
• 31:41
  He's got it rolling. He's building off things.
• 31:43
  There's a rhythm. He's, you know, some play
• 31:46
  callers, you can't really. Are they good?
• 31:48
  Are they bad? I don't know.
• 31:49
  With him, you can see. Yeah, he's good.
• 31:51
  He's very good. That quarterback is a problem
• 31:57
  because of his escape ability, although he hasn't done a lot of
• 32:00
  that. He is able to though.
• 32:02
  What I really what really scares me is Nebraska does hasn't
• 32:06
  gotten to quarterback. They don't apply much pressure
• 32:09
  and if they do get to them, they have to commit six guys often
• 32:14
  and that's trouble on a couple fronts.
• 32:17
  They're really Tal US CS really talented at receiver.
• 32:20
  So if you you know, if you don't leave enough guys back there,
• 32:23
  they're going to hurt you. And he is really good against
• 32:25
  the blitz passing. His numbers against blitz is I
• 32:29
  think he completes 70 to some percent against blitz.
• 32:33
  He reads it well. Now The X Factor those the crowd
• 32:37
  and they they they change everything the line of
• 32:39
  scrimmage. They're one of those teams.
• 32:41
  And if you can get him out of the the the voice check and have
• 32:46
  to force them into silent, that can be a problem.
• 32:49
  It can be a very real problem that's probably gets overlooked
• 32:53
  a little bit too much. So you hope for a loud
• 32:56
  environment. Now, as far as their defense
• 32:59
  goes, they don't stop the run very well.
• 33:01
  That's where Nebraska has. That's where Nebraska has a shot
• 33:05
  here to play a little Iowa ball. Control the control the ball.
• 33:10
  Don't give them possession. Limit their possession.
• 33:13
  Limit their possession is the best way to put it.
• 33:15
  And you have #21. And he's he's not worn down.
• 33:21
  His legs are still live. I think you got to hammer away
• 33:24
  with #21 and keep the ball from them.
• 33:28
  We'll see on that, though. I'm not convinced.
• 33:31
  While USC has been vulnerable, I don't think they're bad.
• 33:36
  And Nebraska doesn't have an offensive line.
• 33:38
  They really don't move people very often.
• 33:41
  So will they be able to, will they be able to create enough
• 33:43
  room for him consistently where that where they can, where they
• 33:46
  can literally drive down the field on the ground?
• 33:49
  Stephen M Sipple. Husker illustrated part of On
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  Three Media joining us in his weekly spot as we chronicle
• 33:55
  Husker football. Sep Thank you, buddy.
• 33:57
  Appreciate you jumping on. We'll talk to you next week.
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  Thank you, Sep. All right.
• 34:01
  Take care. Yeah, Good to talk to you,
• 34:03
  Steven. M simple from on three media.
• 34:05
  Did you see Leistocow's tweet earlier today?
• 34:07
  What's that regarding Matt Rule? And there's a little back and
• 34:10
  forth between the media. They love to twist the knife
• 34:12
  too. This is a rivalry.
• 34:13
  Oh yes, Leistocow's tweet. Earlier today, Nebraska making
• 34:17
  extra sure to keep its coach that lost to Minnesota by 18.
• 34:25
  Where's the lie? It's not one.
• 34:27
  There's not one. No, I just, I just struck a
• 34:29
  funny ball with me. Anyways, what do you expect?
• 34:32
  A lot of steam. The sharps are all over Nebraska
• 34:35
  in this game because of Lincoln Riley all over them.
• 34:38
  Love the points. I think that's where I am too.
• 34:40
  Are you I home environment cold weather rainy night Oh, it's
• 34:44
  supposed to rain too on. Top of everything.
• 34:46
  That was something I guess I saw.
• 34:47
  That yesterday. I haven't looked here today to
• 34:49
  see if that's been updated, but it's Lincoln Riley traveling.
• 34:52
  Yeah, USC has been very good at home and they've been a disaster
• 34:56
  on the road for what their expectations are because of
• 34:59
  that. Yeah, I I definitely like the
• 35:00
  points here. And I think Nebraska is live
• 35:02
  this week. And you know, I don't say that
• 35:04
  very often. You don't.
• 35:05
  And I've been right more times than not on.
• 35:07
  No, you're right. Is there?
• 35:11
  I mean, we, we don't know yet. The 15th of November.
• 35:14
  Two weeks from Saturday, the Iowa plays at USC.
• 35:17
  Is there a chance this is a late, late, late game?
• 35:20
  No, it's already been announced. It'll either be two or two 30.
• 35:23
  Oh OK, so middle of the. Afternoon regardless.
• 35:25
  Oh, good central time. Yep.
• 35:26
  Oh. Man I was dreading 9. 3010
• 35:28
  o'clock that window. Oh good.
• 35:30
  Just we just don't know for sure.
• 35:32
  Do you know a network yet? No, that has not.
• 35:34
  Been announced, so that's what it's waiting on.
• 35:35
  So good middle of the afternoon. Yep.
• 35:37
  All right, good stuff. Trent's got the plays of the
• 35:39
  day. It's next.
• 35:40
  So there is a college game tonight.
• 35:43
  It's a what we've. Seen earlier in the week.
• 35:46
  I would have to categorize this as a better game potentially
• 35:50
  this week in Tulane, in UT San Antonio, and Tulane's OK.
• 35:55
  Yeah, I like. Tulane, I like watching.
• 35:56
  Tulane. Yeah.
• 35:57
  I told you I took a visit to Tulane.
• 35:59
  Yeah. And then why would you?
• 36:00
  Out of state tuition was not going to work out, but you got
• 36:02
  to go to New Orleans. Absolutely.
• 36:04
  That was a pretty good one. I I like that Tulane team.
• 36:08
  Yeah. The the.
• 36:10
  American that race. It's more intriguing to the ACC.
• 36:13
  Oh I totally agree when we have Bama.
• 36:14
  Tomorrow, let's talk. American instead of ACC.
• 36:16
  Well, find me a game. I think there's only one game in
• 36:19
  the ACC that might even be worthy, and I'm not sure I'll
• 36:22
  get your vote behind this. Who does SMU play?
• 36:25
  SMU Miami. There you go, you need to put
• 36:27
  that. One that ones on.
• 36:28
  Yeah, that. Ones the game in the ACC, but I
• 36:30
  agree with you on the American. It's a fun race.
• 36:32
  Fun race. All right, Trent's got some NFL,
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• 36:36
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• 36:38
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