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An interesting development | HBR Talk 315 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello, Ian, Welcome to HBr Talk three point fifteen and interesting develop I'm
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  your host Hannah Wallen here with nonsense annihilator Lauren Brooks and the personification of perceptivity
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  Mike Stevenson. And we are going to talk about an article that I found.
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  We were going to talk about, uh, some some things on the
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  timeline that I've been working on in regard to the history of suffrage and and
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  its relationship to the draft, but this article was so interesting that I really
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  felt like we really needed to talk about that. And in fact, I
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  almost preempted everything for discussing the release of Juliana Sane because that has some interesting
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  implications too, and uh, and I'm gonna I'm gonna explain that. But
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  but I think it's even more important because of the context we're in. How
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  how we've been discussing this, and you know the fact that there is a
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  case before going before the Supreme Court, and there is discussion in Congress and
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  everything about this that we do have to go over this article and add that
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  to the discussion that we've been having about women and suffrage and the draft.
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  So before we get into that, my earliest bread pill moments was the Julia
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  massage thing. Yeah, because everyone was on his side, every every every
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  dissident leftist and every dissident rightist was on his side, sort of cheering him
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  on as this investigative reporter who was bringing the powers that be to the mat,
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  so to speak, until he fucked with the Clintons and and and then
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  all they had to do was go he raped someone, and everyone, oh,
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  well, wow, I do like Junior the side, but he definitely
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  did rape that woman, And I was great, what. And this was
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  back in twenty eleven, twenty twelve, before before that whole before the whole
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  red pill craze really set in. And even even at that point, I
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  was like, wait what Yeah, all it takes is for some Swedish bint
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  to accuse him of rape, and then everyone got and then everyone changes their
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  tune. They go, oh, well, I'm no longer interested in bringing
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  down the powers that be, like I so ently profess to being interested in.
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  Now I'm just like, well, he's been accused of harming a woman,
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  and no one ever falsely accuses anyone of harming a woman, So it's
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  yeah, it was that easy just to flip everyone, well not everyone,
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  but an alarming amount of people. Yeah, very alarming, And it was
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  the flip itself was alarming as well, because it wasn't just well, he's
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  gone from being good guy to bad guy. It's he's gone from being a
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  human being with inalienable human rights too. You don't deserve due process because you
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  face an allegation of sexual violence against a woman. So it was quite the
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  quite the serious flip. And and it's something that is gendered. It can
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  only be done to a man because you accuse a woman of harming another woman.
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  Well, now you're in a chick fight and who who do you?
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  Who do you favor? Which chick do you favor? That that becomes a
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  very difficult, uh prospect, how to how to handle that discussion. So
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  it's it's interesting that you know, not only is he free and people are
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  celebrating and and people have gone back to he was he was not the bad
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  guy. He was never the bad guy, right, because it's it's come
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  out since then, all the information has come out since and then we're not
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  gonna go over all of it. But that A, you know, she
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  was coerced into making that allegation and it was false, and B it was
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  an allegation of something that we still have debate between people over whether or not
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  that should constitute rape, because as we're talking about stealthing, he was accused
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  of stealthing. And what stealthing is for anybody listening who hasn't heard the term
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  and doesn't know what it is, it's sneakily removing the condom during a sex
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  act. When a woman said that her consent relied on condom use, and
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  it's gendered. It's specifically gendered. If a woman says she is on the
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  pill, she has been taking it properly and it should be working. When
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  a man says his consent relies on her promise that she is using birth control
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  and in fact she hasn't been taking it, or she's done anything to sabotage
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  her own birth control, or she sabotages his birth control, she doesn't get
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  the same accountability level that he gets. He doesn't get the same recourse against
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  her if she turns up pregnant later on, even if she admits fully and
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  openly, oh yeah, I wanted a baby, so I did this,
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  she can do that and still not get charged with anything. So it's one
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  area where the accountability gap is particularly stark, not the only area. Obviously
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  we're gonna talk about one tonight, but that's something that I thought was interesting
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  and relevant in regard to that. But the implication that we'll get into with
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  with regard to the release of a songe I'm gonna I'm gonna go through and
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  do my little spira before I say that, because it might actually spark a
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  discussion that's longer than a few minutes. So the odda that he's free now
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  is an optimistic prison of the situation. The first thing that happened we got
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  out of prison was he was charged I think half a million dollars for a
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  charter flight from for from the UK to I think Los Angeles, and he
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  wasn't given the option of flying commercial or fighting anything but this particular fight,
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  and for that he was mandatorily charged half a million dollars. Fortunately, his
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  wife got right right on that started to not go fund me, but a
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  similar thing to get that funded, because if they don't get it funded,
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  I guess I'll throw him in prison again. They're throwing everything they can at
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  him at this point. They're trying everything, but that's that's uh, and
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  it's something that they're up against crowd sourcing and crowdfunding, and that's that's going
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  to be difficult. You can't you can't fight with that because when you have
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  the public against you, no matter what you do, no matter how many
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  things you throw at the wall, there's more people coming along, you know,
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  with magic erasers to get rid of them. But let's move through the
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  spiel first, and then I'll explain what I was one of the reasons I
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  woman who got mad that she could not use her claim of victimhood as a
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  bludgeon to silence male victims of female sexual violence, and she got all of
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  I am not talking out of my ass on on the on the blog,
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  so which is good because because that would really stink. But in any case,
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  now that we have that done and over with. I want to point
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  out there's some really profound things that have come out of this last week.
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  And the thing with the Soannge is this, the United States used to be
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  such a powerful entity that they were able to keep an innocent man on ice
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  in in virtual imprisonment and physical imprisonment basically for years, for the crime of
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  exposing the war crimes of this country. Right, that is what happened to
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  a Songe. He was trapped in an embassy for years, and then he
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  was trapped in prison after that. Not because he committed a crime, not
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  because he was a subject to the United States that did violate US law as
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  a citizen, because he's not, but that he is a foreigner who reported
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  on activities from this country in a way that exposed our military's war crimes to
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  the world. Any other country would have been destroyed for that. Politically,
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  nobody would have condoned that, and nobody should have condoned that. It doesn't
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  matter if we feel like our people, or our soldiers, or our government
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  or anything was endangered by it. He's he told on us, Right,
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  that was that was our our beef with as a country, as a government,
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  because obviously most of the people in the United States did not support the
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  government on this. That's that's very terrifying that that we were able to do
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  that, that our country was able to do that in the name of people
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  that didn't even agree with the action. That's that's absolutely terrifying. And now
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  the fact that he is free now, and and I realized that free is
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  has a little asterisk or in quotes, but it's still a major change.
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  And it indicates that this country does not have the power to just continue covering
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  its ass for doing bad things. And that's important. I've talked about accountability
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  and how women have been spinning their wheels for two hundred year because of a
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  lack of accountability, and how lack of accountability has caused women to fail.
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  It's not just a minor factor. You cannot succeed without accountability. You lose
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  everything without accountability because you can't do the fighting necessary, you can't do the
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  work, the labor necessary necessary to succeed, you can't uphold the standards that
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  are necessary to succeed if you are not accountable. And it doesn't get smaller
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  when you're dealing with an entire nation, it gets bigger. If the United
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  States cannot be accountable to the world for the actions that we take in the
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  world, this country will fall. So it doesn't just represent a success for
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  as songe and it doesn't just represent a return to since in terms of you
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  know, what we're doing in his case, it represents a victory victory for
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  the people of the United States as well, even though it represents a loss
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  for our government. In fact, because it represents a loss for our government,
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  Uh, it's it's absolutely vital that we don't have a nation where the
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  government gets away with doing bad things. So that's that that implication is huge.
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  And the other thing is a Biden administ administration is the one that is
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  really invested in taking this man out. The government that everybody calls the shadow
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  government, which is really just a bureaucracy. There's no shadow there. Everybody
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  can see it. It's clearly visible. We know it's there, so it's
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  not a shadow. They are the ones that wanted to take this man down
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  because it was the crimes of unelected officials that he exposed in large part,
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  and the danger of an unaccountable bureaucracy in government that he exposed the world to,
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  and it's absolutely vital that people are aware of that. This shows that
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  they are scrambling. They may have the power to orchestrate what they want to
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  orchestrate here in the country, but they can't do it to the whole world.
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  They can't keep world support for doing that. So hopefully that's a crack
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  in their armor. That's that's It may not, you know, be the
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  biggest truist slam dunk kind of victory that we wanted, but it is a
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  step forward and it is very important to recognize that. So, yeah,
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  imagine if reporting a crime was illegal. I know that's becoming more and more,
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  i mean less and less difficult to imagine because criminals are getting away with
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  so much because they're no longer called crimes, and we're at the point if
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  you report a crime by a protected group, then you're more likely to get
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  arrested than the person who had committed that crime. And you might think that's
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  a new development in the Overton winding in the Overton window, pushing progress of
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  those who called themselves progressive. But what happened to julian as Songe happened fourteen
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  years ago, and all they did was a crime essentially it's what a reporter
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  is supposed to do. It. An investigative journalist is supposed to do report
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  on things up to and including crimes, up to and including crimes of the
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  American government and its industrial military complex, and especially of the Clintons. This
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  is how long is it has been effectively illegal to criticize the Clintons, especially
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  in the event that you have receipts and so. But black pill time,
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  folks ding ding ding gather around the fire time for the doctor's black pill.
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  Of course, you might think this will result now that assign is back on
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  the case, that this will result in more juicy dirt on the Clintons,
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  But it's pretty unlikely. Because he's been locked up for fifteen years, most
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  of his contacts have probably disappeared or been clinton, which I'm sure you all
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  understand as a verb at this point. And the man's got to be somewhat
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  deranged from living in what we knew as lockdown. We knew it for a
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  year or so, he was experienced it for ten years, and then he
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  was experiencing actual you know, being locked up in actual prison in Belmarsh,
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  which is fucked up even by English prison standards, and Yeah, he's I
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  would be surprised if he was properly able to function even as a normal member
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  of public, even as a as a heart hitting investigative journalist. It's going
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  to require a great deal of well, not therapy, but whatever, the
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  unfeminized version of the therapy. Years. But either way, it's he's going
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  to find it more difficult because I mean, he's he's going to dive back
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  into into wicked leagues, I suppose, but the damage has already been done
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  to them, to them, and I'm sure the termites have dined on the
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  on their infrastructure in the fifteen year interim. Yeah, there's there's a reason
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  that this this plea deal happened when it did under Biden, of all people.
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  Never mind that it didn't happen under Trump's administration. I'm sure if Julian
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  Lossande was like a black rapper, he'd have been pardoned by Trump, but
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  alas he was just the man that got Trump elected. Arguably. No,
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  but nobody's perfect, folks. We're not here to worship any given candidate.
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  They all seem to have stupid shit they did and important ship that they didn't
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  do. But you had, And it's slightly sirs, that he was released
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  under under the Biden administration, not by the Biden administration. It was by
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  a long and arduous process of people all over all sorts of spheres sort of
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  demanding that the signs to get released. And maybe it's maybe it's just a
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  coincidence, but I think fourteen fifteen years it's about as long as it takes
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  to break a man. I think, I think that's what it is to
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  break a man, and to break all his contacts to the point where when
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  when he actually does get out of prison, he'll he'll be too broken to
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  do anything. But maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe well,
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  and I want to point out I don't think the Biden administration did this for
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  him. I think that the Biden administration couldn't prevent this from happening. Yes,
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  that's the thing that I'm so what I'm positive about, what I'm optimistic
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  about, is I think it's a good sign. It's a good thing that
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  the Biden administration couldn't prevent this from happening. I don't think the United States
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  is suddenly this great accountable place, but I think that the powers that be
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  here are losing the ability to be unaccountable, and that's to me, that's
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  very important, and it's it's actually it's as important as the due process aspect
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  of this, because you can't have due process without government accountability. You just
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  can't. And it's it's dangerous when you have zero government accountability. So but
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  we are going to move on to this article. Before we get to the
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  article, I want to just run down, you know, this is this
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  is what we're what we're looking at in terms of the political perspective of the
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  website and the writer. So this website is the Federalist, which is this
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  This publication has been around for quite a bit and it's I consider it to
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  be pretty much a conservative publication. And if you look, you know,
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  the the headlines kind of give you an idea. They're their pro Second Amendment.
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  Uh, they're very much anti infringement or compromise the Second Amendment. Uh
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  interpretations that would compromise it or anything. Uh. They did, if I
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  remember it, support Trump in both elections. So there there's that. And
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  of course they're going to bring up the fentanyl problem here. Then we have
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  the Uh there's a Charlottesville every week and most Democrats are fine with it.
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  So that's that's another article that sort of hits the Democrat Party. Republicans keep
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  losing because they're reactive, not proactive, so they want the Republicans to start
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  doing more taking more action. Alan Bragg loves anti Semitic rioters. I just
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  that headline, We're gonna just say this about this guy, and and I'm
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  sure the article makes a case for that, but they they're not writing that
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  about every prosecutor in in the country. They're not saying specific things about the
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  social attitudes of every prosecutor in the country based on things that you cannot get
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  away with thinking and believing and opinions that you cannot get away with having just
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  just the one that went after Trump. So that should give you an idea.
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  If Trump wants to win, he should run with J. D.
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  Vance. You know this is this is pretty much a Republican conservative, probably
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  traditionalist conservative type of publication, right. So that's that's the site, and
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  then we will go to we have the writer. The writer's name is Joy
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  Pullman, and I know it's there's a lot of names like that name.
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  I mean, I Hooker is a real name. It's it's it's like you
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  probably have heard of the show TJ. Hooker, But I actually is somebody
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  who makes hooks, because there's all sorts of names for I don't know where
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  it came from. I don't know the origins, but I do know that
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  when I worked as a telemarketer years ago, which I did for a very
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  short time and uh, and then decided that this that really wasn't for me.
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  It was supposed to be a call center where I answered phones and provided
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  information, and immediately once I started working there, it became cold calls.
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  And cold calls are really not my thing. I don't like doing that to
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  people. I don't like it when people do that to me. So I
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  hated that job. And I had signed a contract that I had to give
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  them thirty days notice in order to quit, and I didn't know what recourse
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  they might have or what things they might do if I didn't do that.
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  So I gave them my thirty days notice and I quiet quit for twenty nine
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  days and that was that. So but anyway, tell you the collapse of
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  the man pulling industry. It was the first death knell of Do you remember
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  when man pulling involved joy? Those were the days there were men and women
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  were women and old men. But I'll bet I'll bet that's like from sailing
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  or something. Well, there's you with the lodgic making things not smutty.
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  Nope, it's not. It's from it's railroad. A railroad car affording special
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  comfort is a pullman. It has sleeping berths in it. Those are pullman
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  cars. So I will bet this name. His name probably predates that though,
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  because that's like the eighteen hundreds, and I'm sure that surname existed prior.
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  They're probably named after that. But but yeah, Midnight Motorcyclist says they
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  preferred hiring women over men for cold calling job. Yes, actually there was
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  one man and twenty seven other women in that room with me, and it
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  was it was chaos. It was the only job I ever had that I
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  couldn't find anything about it that I liked. But in any case, so
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  Joy Pullman is the writer here. Oh. The whole point of that story
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  was one of the people I had on my list one day was their Their
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  name was Hooker. But that wasn't the funniest one. I had another person
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  on my list named Dildo d ld O dildo, So there you go.
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  So we get some weird names here. But Joy Pullman is the executive director
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  of the Federal Federalist. Her new book with Regnery is a reginary Maybe is
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  False Flag Why queer politics mean the End of America. She is a happy
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  wife, a mother of six children. Her ebooks include Classic Books for Young
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  Children and one hundred and one Strategies for Living Well amid Inflation, which everybody
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  needs every strategy they can get, because we're okay. So Richard Beerre says,
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  George Pullman developed the railcar, So there we go. Pullman did predate
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  that name. I should have known that too, because I no, I've
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  read that who developed George Pullman his parents and who developed them their parents?
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  And we're we're talking fathers here, because like we're developing men, right.
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  But yeah, in any case, so this is she's she's been doing this
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  for eighteen years. She has testified between legislature or in before legislatures on education
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  policy. I've been on Fox News and notice they pair her up with Ben
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  Shapiro and Dennis Prager. So we are looking at that's traditionalist conservative. It's
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  very much that specific angle, the angle from which we have been hearing absolutely
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  that women are not qualified for the draft and that it would be a disaster
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  for the country if women entered the military in any great numbers. Right.
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  She's she's talked about homeschooling, She's talked about at common core in education how
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  bad that is, and and so on. So this is you know,
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  uh, she has this this ad for her book. Here it says Joy
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  Pullman brilliantly distills how the radical left war on family is integral to its effort
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  to destroy America. And that quote is from the CEO and co founder of
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  The Federalist. And that's for the why queer politics mean the end of America.
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  She's this is her latest article, but she's written, you know,
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  about cultural Marxism here, where is it? I'm like looking trying to look
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  behind my window at how it shows an obs I'm sorry, I keep bouncing
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  up down here. She's written about the the This says train gender cult.
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  But I refer to that as trenders because this is something that you didn't see
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  happening very much prior to it becoming a trend. You know, it was
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  it was something that you really saw a very tiny percentage of the minum of
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  of of the population, even a small percentage of the the queer population that
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  that even experienced dysphoria, and among them there was a minority of them that
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  chose transitioning is their way to deal with it. So for it to have
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  become super common now and then the the de transitioning thing happening, there's obviously
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  been a change that has not been healthy for people who have any kind of
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  gender atypical behavior. And uh, and there's been other things. We could
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  do a whole show about that and probably well at some point. All right,
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  so this this woman's perspective. You can see that she is very definitely
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  a traditionalist, conservative woman, and she's not that she's not a feminist since
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  she's not part of the men's rights movement. She's not somebody that we're we've
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  been working with or anything. She's not like none of that. So before
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  we go into the article, I just wanted to make sure that we had
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  the perspective down that we're reading from. So now we'll get into what she
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  has to say. And the article is titled if they want to vote,
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  women should be subject to the draft. Yeah, and I saw that and
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  then I saw it was the Federalist and I was like, whoa, whoa,
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  this is this is nice, this is new we have got to When
• 30:56
  I started reading it, it was a little bit not is based all the
• 31:00
  way through, but it is. Uh you just have to sort of bear
• 31:04
  with She makes some very serious points and uh so we'll get into that and
• 31:11
  and her statement here. It's not saying it's not fair for women to get
• 31:15
  the same privileges as men without also executing the same responsibilities. So it's the
• 31:22
  same thing that we've been saying for years. It's it's made it to a
• 31:29
  mainstream conservative, traditionalist publication, you know. And this is this is the
• 31:37
  political outlook from which several members of Congress a few years ago put up a
• 31:48
  draft Our Daughter's Bill specifically to shove in the face of of people that expanding
• 31:57
  selective service to women would mean women going to war, right that with the
• 32:04
  idea of fear mongering. So people would oppose it, and they could defeat
• 32:08
  the bill in Congress at the time to extend the draft to women. So
• 32:15
  they they have not all flipped necessarily, but they have gone from this unified.
• 32:22
  Oh you can't draft women. It would be a disaster. And how
• 32:25
  dare you consider making women go to war? And women need to be protected
• 32:30
  and so on. To a woman writing this article, she says this year's
• 32:37
  reauthorization of the US military spending includes a provision registering women for the draft when
• 32:43
  they turn eighteen, same as men. Under the provisions, both sexes will
• 32:49
  be automatically registered with selected service when they turn eighteen, rather than having to
• 32:53
  personally fill out the paperwork or face prison time. Now that's been there's been
• 33:00
  news media that has said that's only going to happen to men, and women
• 33:07
  might be required, and it's under debate and all this, But this is
• 33:09
  what she is saying, and she has links to. The first link goes
• 33:17
  to a Twitter account real Patrick Webb who stated that, and the second one
• 33:24
  goes to an MSM dot com report about automatically registering men. So she may
• 33:32
  have it wrong. I'm not sure that they're actually considering making it equal in
• 33:42
  Congress, but in any case, it would be the right thing to do.
• 33:52
  Even in our highly feminized culture, women do not support being drafted.
• 33:58
  Yet of course, many support female preferential politics if it gets them privileges and
• 34:02
  signatures instead of responsibilities, such as in sports Title nine and workplaces Title eight.
• 34:14
  Now that's title seven. I don't support drafting women, she says,
• 34:20
  because I have moral and natural rights objections to women serving in combat positions.
• 34:23
  In the military, men and women are different, and part of that difference
• 34:28
  is to female bodies. That female bodies poorly sustained combat level stress. Even
• 34:31
  ripped women are physically inferior to men, and female soldiers are more likely to
• 34:36
  get and stay injured, damaging their readiness and lethality of their units. This
• 34:40
  means more US soldiers dead and injured because of sexual politics. This is something
• 34:45
  that Brian said previously. You can be in the army without being a soldier,
• 34:50
  right. All sorts of positions are not just sexist ones like nurses.
• 34:54
  You can be the technicians or engineers. There's nothing physically stopping women from being
• 35:01
  technicians and engineers. Maybe maybe evolution doesn't stop at the neck, and there
• 35:07
  is, and there is some kind of cerebral difference between men and women that
• 35:15
  makes women not just worse soldiers, but worse technicians and engineers. But there's
• 35:22
  all sorts of administrative positions as well that I'm not sure it works the same
• 35:30
  as the Second World War, but all sorts of women did their bit in
• 35:35
  the Second World war. I can't remember what they were. They were all
• 35:38
  behind the scenes. That largely they were. They were the computers of their
• 35:44
  day because Touring was busy inventing the first mechanical computer. Before then, computer
• 35:52
  was a human occupation and most of the people are you part it as computers?
• 36:00
  Well, I won't there doing the computing and stuff. So I guess
• 36:04
  that role is not available anymore because we have machines that are really, really
• 36:08
  quite good at doing the computing. But there's still there's something that women can
• 36:15
  do, and not necessarily stereotypical female roles like nurses or whatever. Well,
• 36:22
  yeah, just a dark's body at a factory or something, you know.
• 36:29
  I mean, I will remind everybody. We went over the roles of men,
• 36:36
  boys and women and girls in the Revolutionary War in the United States,
• 36:42
  right, and we talked about the fact, just briefly, we talked about
• 36:47
  men being drafted as soldiers and how the draft worked, and it was it
• 36:53
  wasn't quite the same as it is now, right, but but it it
• 37:00
  was still it was still nationwide, and it was still conscription. And we
• 37:07
  also talked about the fact that it included boys, not just when we say
• 37:10
  boys, we're not just talking you know, sixteen seventeen year old, the
• 37:15
  fact that you know you were considered an adult at a younger age. Back
• 37:17
  then, the youngest was seven seven years old and brought to military service to
• 37:30
  do a job that involved giving the marching orders to the troops using a musical
• 37:36
  instrument that would make you a target for the other side to shoot at with
• 37:45
  muskets right and cannons. And then at the same time, boys were also
• 37:54
  used as messengers, so they would run back and forth between between camps with
• 38:04
  intel and again this would make them targets for the enemy. And among the
• 38:13
  enemy were people who were more skilled at guerrilla warfare than anyone who had come
• 38:20
  to America from Europe because they had been doing it for eons, for generations.
• 38:27
  The Native Americans that were involved in the Revolutionary War on both sides,
• 38:30
  by the way they were different tribes on both sides, would not have hesitated
• 38:37
  to kill a child of the enemy. And so when I talk about women's
• 38:45
  roles, I want to emphasize they were not as dangerous, They were not
• 38:49
  as risky right for the women, and they did not do the same They
• 38:57
  didn't have the same effect in the war as the roles of men and boys.
• 39:00
  It was men and boys who won the war, and women and girls
• 39:05
  supported them. That was what they were in, was support roles. There
• 39:08
  were a handful of women who stepped up above and beyond what other women did
• 39:15
  when circumstances made it necessary for them, like Molly Pitcher, and when there
• 39:24
  wasn't a man to do the job right and there was a woman there,
• 39:30
  and if the job wasn't done, then the cause would be lost. But
• 39:35
  for the most part, what women did was they tended to the men.
• 39:38
  They took care of the men, and they were in a care role the
• 39:45
  whole time. Everything from making sure that the soldiers on the field had water,
• 39:50
  which was dangerous. They were still going into an area that was under
• 39:53
  heavy fire, right, but they were not targets. They would have been
• 40:00
  if they were hit, they would have been hit as collateral damage, right.
• 40:07
  But bringing water back and forth to cannoneers. Women were the ones that
• 40:12
  maintained the uniforms. Women were the ones that did the cooking. Women were
• 40:16
  the ones that worked as a support staff for the medical practitioners that treated the
• 40:23
  soldiers that got injured on the battlefield, and they accompanied the soldiers in the
• 40:29
  camps. Many of them were accompanying the soldiers in the camps because the soldiers
• 40:34
  were their husbands or their sons, and so women can do that and there's
• 40:40
  no excuse for women to get out of that. And my position on this
• 40:47
  is not so much that women and men need to do identical things to make
• 40:52
  it fair, because I don't think it's fair for men to have to sacrifice
• 40:58
  in order to achieve that, but for women to be able to get by
• 41:06
  without any equivalent responsibility at all, I think that's bullshit. And I feel
• 41:19
  I will always feel like a slacker my whole life because of not having that
• 41:23
  responsibility. So I have a lot of respect for women who have tried to
• 41:30
  step up and do it just because they did better than I did. It's
• 41:37
  like I didn't do that. And granted I might have been more of a
• 41:42
  liability than a benefit because of my health, but if I had today's brain
• 41:52
  in my sixteen year old body, I would have gone into engineering and tried
• 41:57
  to figure out ways to make things to make battle safer for our soldiers or
• 42:01
  unnecessary altogether. Right, So you know, I could have contributed something,
• 42:08
  and it'll always haunt me that I didn't, and I don't think that women
• 42:15
  should get away with ignoring that. I don't think that women should get off
• 42:19
  scott free from that. I think every woman should be haunted by that,
• 42:23
  because our ancestors and our fore mothers did better. Even if they didn't do
• 42:31
  what men did, they still did better than what the generations that came after
• 42:37
  them did. So that's why this type of article is important to me.
• 42:42
  So I do agree with her that we shouldn't be putting men and women side
• 42:45
  by side in the front lines and all that. I don't think that that's
• 42:49
  the right goal, and I don't think that necessarily sticking women in combat roles
• 42:58
  is. We need to prove first that that's actually gonna benefit men and not
• 43:05
  be a hindrance to them before we uh, before we do that, because
• 43:12
  obviously, if if it's going to make things worse for men, it's not
• 43:16
  fairness, it's it's frivolity. So her she says, more us, we
• 43:27
  don't need more used soldiers dead and injured because of sexual politics, and then
• 43:32
  she goes on on top of all this is the fact that putting women in
• 43:37
  the military also increases pregnancy and STD rates. When you put men and women
• 43:42
  together in a situation of high stress. One of the things that human beings
• 43:46
  do to relieve stress is have sex. So you end up with more promiscuity,
• 43:52
  especially if they are unsupervised in some moments, and you also end up
• 43:57
  with other problems. The more women we get in the military, the more
• 44:00
  false allegations we get against soldiers who women consented to sex with and then were
• 44:07
  later embarrassed by the fact that they engaged in it right, so we got
• 44:15
  we got to take that into account. That can't be allowed to happen.
• 44:19
  And it also damages unit readiness because pregnant women are lost to their command for
• 44:23
  a significant time. Units trained together and need every member to function at peak,
• 44:30
  so losing one person affects all the rest, not to mention that it's
• 44:34
  terrible for the baby and the mother for mom to have to return to full
• 44:37
  time military duty just weeks after giving birth. Women and combat should only combine
• 44:45
  in foreign invasion scenarios, not as the routine order of military operation. Women
• 44:50
  do not make good soldiers, and a humane country would never force women into
• 44:53
  combat duty, certainly not in walls as stupid as some of the wars that
• 45:05
  happened. We've been making the case for women being drafted, but I think
• 45:09
  we would all fall back on the idea that the ideal scenario is no one
• 45:14
  gets drafted into a war, especially not so stupid foreign war that has nothing
• 45:20
  to do with the citizens in question, like was previously Like it was previously
• 45:25
  said, if it's an invasion situation, like your actual own home soil is
• 45:30
  being invaded by ground troops, then you don't even need a draft. If
• 45:36
  people can see it happening for themselves, then they will sign up. Americans
• 45:39
  in particular have been readying themselves for this for centuries. The war has never
• 45:47
  taken place in American soil except the Civil War. And as they say,
• 45:52
  you, if you invade the USA, you'll quickly notice that there's an American
• 45:57
  behind every plate cross with a gun. Yes, so you won't even need
• 46:01
  to sign them up to the military. They will defend their province or if
• 46:08
  they have to live, or what if a village or town that happen to
• 46:13
  be in they'll they'll be there with a govern that includes the women. Seventeen
• 46:16
  seventy six, Well commits again. But I just I just recommend they come
• 46:25
  to my house if anybody invades the United States, that would be they would
• 46:29
  not find themselves in a very good situation. Yeah. But when it comes
• 46:35
  to plundering other countries in Eastern Europe, in the Middle East, yeah,
• 46:39
  no, no one should be drafted. And there is the reason you have
• 46:43
  to draft them in the first place, because if you gave them their own
• 46:45
  option, they would say, go fuck yourself in a high hat, brother,
• 46:50
  We're not interested. Yeah, And that's that's my take on the draft
• 46:53
  is that we really should be abolishing it altogether because all it does is allow
• 47:01
  politicians in positions of power with no accountability, who do not have to go
• 47:07
  themselves and do not have to include their families in the draft, to force
• 47:13
  American citizens to fight foreign wars that do not benefit their families, do not
• 47:19
  benefit their countries, do not present any reason why Americans should be involved,
• 47:25
  and do not benefit the soldiers in any way, and they're sent to die,
• 47:34
  fight and die, or fight and kill other people that they would have
• 47:37
  no interest in killing because the government has a goal that doesn't align with the
• 47:44
  goal of the people. If people supported it, they would sign up to
• 47:47
  do it. And if they're not signing up to do it, perhaps the
• 47:52
  government shouldn't be doing it right, So there we go. But in in
• 48:01
  a scenario where foreign power invaded the United States, if if they decided they
• 48:07
  were going to put boots on the ground here, they might discover that women
• 48:15
  can engage in combat if they're cornered, and women can be very scary when
• 48:22
  she's cornered. All right, I've been in that situation, and I have
• 48:30
  been the cornered woman who turned out to be very scary. So you know,
• 48:36
  even even a person like me, with all of my flaws and weaknesses,
• 48:42
  can still do serious damage to another person if attacked. And I would
• 48:47
  feel really sorry for the person who attacked any of my stronger cousins. Really.
• 48:57
  But in any case, we are coming to the butt, she says.
• 49:02
  But the people leading our society don't care about any of this. Women
• 49:07
  have been approved for combat positions in the US military since the Obama administration.
• 49:13
  And here's where we get to a little bit of the meat. Right.
• 49:16
  Not everything she says here is stuff that I like or agree with, But
• 49:22
  here she's pointing out, you deal with the situation, that is, you
• 49:30
  fight for the situation you want, You push for the situation you want,
• 49:35
  you discuss you theorize you, orchestrate, you, engage in activism, whatever.
• 49:44
  But the situation you deal with in the moment, the situation that you
• 49:47
  take into account when you are deciding what your actions are going to be,
• 49:52
  that has to be the situation that you're in, because if you take action
• 49:55
  based on the situation that you want with out considering and controlling for the situation
• 50:07
  that you're in, you are going to fall on your face. Like right
• 50:13
  now, she says, my daughters will be conscientious subjectors if they are ever
• 50:20
  drafted, because of our religious and natural rights convictions that men are the God
• 50:24
  designed protectors of their homes and nation, and it's a violation of nature and
• 50:29
  its creator for women to be soldiers. Now, men have had to do
• 50:34
  that if they did not, if they had moral objections to going to war
• 50:39
  since the beginning, and there have been conscientious objectors in every conflict that has
• 50:46
  had a draft. In the United States during the Vietnam era, conscientious objectors
• 50:53
  were basically, when you're a conscientious objector, it doesn't mean that you just
• 50:57
  get to go back home, right, you have to You still are drafted,
• 51:02
  and you still have to perform service it's just not military service. So
• 51:07
  when my parents were at university where they met together, they volunteered. They
• 51:15
  were not drafted. Neither one of them was, and any had any relation
• 51:20
  to the military except that my dad's father was in the military. But they
• 51:28
  volunteered for a charitable sort of missionary type work with he went to Yipsilanti,
• 51:36
  which in Yippsilanti there was a mental health institution that was it's particularly famous actually,
• 51:45
  that was a residential institution, and you could volunteer to go there and
• 51:52
  do things like sit with people and play board games with them and provide company
• 51:59
  for people who were in for mental health who were residents there that maybe didn't
• 52:06
  get a lot of visits from their family and stuff, and like the goal
• 52:09
  was just to provide human contact and be be a reason why they don't deteriorate
• 52:17
  further due to lack of non medical human contact. And it's a thing that
• 52:22
  happens in residential facilities that if people are stuck there all the time and they
• 52:28
  don't go anywhere and they don't come into contact with a lot of other people,
• 52:31
  there are aspects of your mental health that rely on human contact, and
• 52:37
  you lose things like your communication abilities and your ability to engage with other people
• 52:45
  back and forth, your ability to explain your experiences, for instance, to
• 52:50
  your medical provider, and it's it's painful right you get lonely. And so
• 52:58
  they were part of that with the group that they went with was mostly conscientious
• 53:04
  objectors who were going to do these things because they had to. And that's
• 53:10
  the government does things like you have to volunteer for this or it's kind of
• 53:15
  like the work thing they do for people who are involved with with the welfare
• 53:24
  system, where you know, if you are on welfare, then you have
• 53:28
  to do some sort of quote unquote volunteer work and a lot of times that
• 53:32
  involves putting things on the shelf at Goodwill or the Salvation Army, or going
• 53:38
  into food banks and helping to hand out food at food banks and stuff like
• 53:43
  that. So conscientious objectors don't just get to go home and sit around.
• 53:49
  They end up doing some sort of service. They just don't go into the
• 53:52
  military. But she so she goes on this is this is this is the
• 54:00
  facts her daughters won't go to war. She's saying that right now. That
• 54:07
  said drafting women is also absolutely consonant with women voting This is the first time
• 54:17
  I've heard a conservative, republican traditionalist woman say that. Maybe and Culter might
• 54:30
  have said that at some point. I don't think i've heard her say it,
• 54:34
  but it sounds like something that she might say. But this is the
• 54:39
  first time I've actually seen it in a major publication and seen it accepted like
• 54:50
  this. Drafting women is absolutely consonant with women voting. I have to wonder
• 54:57
  if she's gonna therefore conclude but if women don't get drafted, they shouldn't vote.
• 55:02
  And I have to wonder if she's going to take another base step and
• 55:07
  say nobody should be drafted and nobody should vote. His democracy is a scam,
• 55:14
  and it always has been interesting thing. I know you'll want to save
• 55:19
  your democracy, and you don't mean democracy when you say democracy, you mean
• 55:24
  the hegemonic rule of the Democratic Party. But I'm out here saying, yeah,
• 55:31
  nobody should vote. Democracy is a scam. It's done nothing but drag
• 55:35
  us into centuries of darkness. Nobody should be drafted and nobody should vote.
• 55:42
  We should be ruled by an absolute king who and I mean that in every
• 55:46
  sense of the phrase, an absolute king who maybe even has to lead the
• 55:52
  Army. There you go. Maybe maybe that one of the requirements actual king
• 55:59
  or maybe even an at My thinking on this is nobody should be in charge
• 56:04
  of other people, not not in a government sense. Right. It's one
• 56:08
  thing for a group of people to say, you know, we agree with
• 56:13
  this this individual's philosophies, and we think that they're good at calling the shots,
• 56:17
  and we are going to listen when they do. Like That's pretty much
• 56:22
  the system we have at Honey Badger Radio, right, It's a system that
• 56:25
  we have the Honey Badger Brigade. We're We're not a people. Didn't really
• 56:36
  get hired people. We just kind of joined up. We came toward each
• 56:39
  other and discovered that we were like minded in a lot of ways. We
• 56:44
  don't agree on everything, but we agree on most things and many things.
• 56:49
  And we have we have great leadership in Alison and h And we work with
• 56:58
  Alison because she inspires us to. But all of us could leave at any
• 57:04
  time if that was not the case. And I think that's why this works
• 57:12
  because nobody makes us do it. We're doing it because we are inspired to
• 57:20
  do it. We're doing it because Alison's leadership draws us in and gives us
• 57:28
  the motivation to do it. And I think that we all kind of feel
• 57:34
  really strongly about these topics, you know, so much so to the point
• 57:37
  that you know, you know, we don't really care what you think about
• 57:42
  us. It's the it's it's the truth that needs to be spoken about,
• 57:47
  you know. And I think that's kind of what draws us all here.
• 57:51
  And it works because just like you said, we want to be here,
• 57:54
  we were drawn to this, you know exactly. And I think you could
• 58:00
  have that kind of cohesion up to the size of a city, even a
• 58:06
  big city, where people would find, you know, common common inspiration from
• 58:15
  great leaders, and if a person was required to be a great leader in
• 58:22
  order to maintain that cohesive community, I don't think that we would have the
• 58:29
  problems that we have inherent to government today. And I don't think people should
• 58:34
  be able to vote to take other people's property and then do it, you
• 58:39
  know, like have have an entity do that. That's that's something that it
• 58:49
  doesn't change the fact that it's theft. It doesn't change the fact that it
• 58:52
  is immoral and unethical, and that it is a violation of the rights of
• 58:59
  the individual whose property is being taken it just increases the number of people who
• 59:06
  are responsible for that, who are culpable for that, and it makes it
• 59:09
  harder for the people doing it to see their culpability, recognize the wrongness of
• 59:16
  the situation, and make better choices. So so there you go. But
• 59:24
  so I'm not in agreement that we need to change that. We there's a
• 59:29
  better system of government that if we're going to change, my thing thinking is
• 59:36
  that we need to look at how much government we can get rid of.
• 59:43
  That that'd be my preference. And then ultimately I think the next stage of
• 59:47
  human evolution is going to be toward a system of no government and people taking
• 59:57
  more accountability for themselves and leadership requiring that level of accountability. But in any
• 1:00:07
  case, as we go on here, she continues with this, in the
• 1:00:15
  Founder's era, every voter was required to join in local and national self defense.
• 1:00:21
  That's a big part of the reason only men voted at the time.
• 1:00:24
  And now this is where we're getting into the weeds, because I'm going to
• 1:00:29
  point out some things. Everybody believes that everybody thinks that only men voted in
• 1:00:36
  the early United States. That is not true. We have debunked that in
• 1:00:42
  previous episodes of HBr Talk. Right, there were states where only men voted.
• 1:00:49
  There were states where men and women voted. Even in the thirteen original
• 1:00:53
  colonies New Jersey, for instance, when voted, men voted, minorities voted,
• 1:01:02
  non citizens voted. In the early early part of the country. We
• 1:01:10
  talked about that, We talked about how New Jersey ended up changing that and
• 1:01:15
  why. And as other territories gained statehood, some of them gained statehood with
• 1:01:24
  female voting already part of their state constitutions. So it has not been a
• 1:01:31
  consistent thing in the United States that only men voted and women never did.
• 1:01:37
  And it has not been It wasn't in the UK either, Right, more
• 1:01:44
  men voted than women, but at that time we're talking less than four percent
• 1:01:51
  of the population could vote. Because of the standards that they faced. It
• 1:01:55
  wasn't just gender, and it wasn't It was related to conscription, but it
• 1:02:00
  wasn't just conscription. You also had to have a position of responsibility. You
• 1:02:06
  had to be employed to the degree of having a certain level of income and
• 1:02:12
  paying a certain level in taxes. And when women did that, they could
• 1:02:17
  vote even though they didn't meet the conscription requirement. Right, they can still
• 1:02:24
  vote. It's just that there weren't as many women who achieved that level of
• 1:02:31
  community responsibility as there were men. So where she says in the Founders area,
• 1:02:39
  every voter was required to join in in local national defense. That's one
• 1:02:45
  thing. But it wasn't true that only men voted at the time. And
• 1:02:52
  but she goes on, so no, it wasn't the Founders were wicked sexist
• 1:02:55
  KKK. Like you've been told, voting is not a natural right. That
• 1:03:00
  is probably the most base thing that I have heard a conservatives say. Ever.
• 1:03:05
  Voting is not a natural right. It is a civil right. I
• 1:03:14
  mean, arguably, nothing is a natural right except that which is given to
• 1:03:17
  us by nature, which is life. But that's that's where that's where it
• 1:03:22
  gets controversial. Is the going to have to argue with with other small eld
• 1:03:28
  libertarians about property rights and whether they are natural or civil. I think there's
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  civil. But because property is an abstract invention of human beings, almost everything
• 1:03:43
  we call the right is an abstract invention of human beings, the only exception
• 1:03:47
  being the right to life, and that and that that is involved when it
• 1:03:52
  comes to the draft, because when you're drafted, you essentially lose your rights
• 1:04:00
  to life. But you you you part it off to to those to those
• 1:04:05
  who who feel they have the office to sacrifice your life for for someone else's
• 1:04:13
  sake or something else is sake. And that's that's really what it should come
• 1:04:19
  down to. And and it would affect this whole discussion about about the draft
• 1:04:27
  that if anything is a natural right, it is the right to life,
• 1:04:30
  and that's taken away by the draft. Yeah, but and voting is a
• 1:04:35
  civil right, it comes secondary to the natural right to life. When I
• 1:04:45
  talk about rights, I talk about them from the perspective of whether an individual
• 1:04:51
  is justified in responding to an action with outrage right. So, for instance,
• 1:05:00
  the right to be to not be subject to aggression by other people without
• 1:05:03
  cause. That's essentially the non aggression principle. You don't have cause to be
• 1:05:13
  outraged if you act aggressively, if you initiate aggression against another person and they
• 1:05:17
  defend themselves. So that's what I'm describing when I describe a right to self
• 1:05:23
  defense. And I apply that in terms of civil rights, where the government
• 1:05:29
  should recognize that it is not unethical or morally wrong for someone to respond to
• 1:05:36
  harmful aggression against their person being initiated, you know, again without cause by
• 1:05:45
  by defending themselves, even if their defense results in harm to the person that
• 1:05:50
  was aggressing against them. And that's that's my point of view in terms of
• 1:05:57
  rights. You know, are are you just did you? Did you deserve
• 1:06:01
  what happened to you? Was was the individual responding to something you did or
• 1:06:08
  was the individual initiating the the the wrongdoing? And uh so in my perspective,
• 1:06:15
  if if, if, if we talk about it in terms of property,
• 1:06:23
  if a property is occupied, if a property is already in use,
• 1:06:29
  and that's that's ownership, and if somebody takes it, that individual has a
• 1:06:34
  right to respond by taking it back, right, And that's the the concept
• 1:06:43
  of how how you have cause to feel about it, and what's ethical and
• 1:06:48
  moral in regard to your responses and everything. When it comes to practicality,
• 1:06:53
  though, demanding that other people respect your rights isn't always practical. And that's
• 1:07:01
  where we've gotten into the weeds in the United States is people have determined it
• 1:07:08
  to be impractical to defend their property rights to the degree that we have now
• 1:07:13
  normalized people voting to take other people's property because they want it, you know,
• 1:07:20
  because this person has more than I do and it's too much, and
• 1:07:27
  it doesn't matter how they got it, and it doesn't matter how I didn't
• 1:07:30
  get it, you know, I just want it. I'm jealous, I
• 1:07:34
  feel deprived, whatever, and therefore I'm going to vote to take it away
• 1:07:40
  from them. Like that. That's pretty much an extreme version of treating it
• 1:07:49
  like it's practical to be a dormat and treating it like it's practical to expect
• 1:07:57
  other people to be dormats on your behalf. And it's really been to the
• 1:08:00
  detriment of the country. So it doesn't it doesn't matter like when we when
• 1:08:09
  we talk about the whole property rights thing, it doesn't matter how you feel
• 1:08:13
  about whether or not there's a natural moral right to not share things once you
• 1:08:21
  have them. It it ends up being a matter of all, right,
• 1:08:27
  do you have to use aggression to take it? And why isn't the person
• 1:08:30
  justified then in using aggression to take it back? Right? Do you have
• 1:08:34
  to use aggression? In the course of using aggression, are you depriving them
• 1:08:40
  of something that they need, something that's important to them, something that matters
• 1:08:43
  to them? Right? And and so on, Because when it gets gets
• 1:08:47
  down to it. All of the other things that we consider to be natural
• 1:08:53
  rights trace back to that. If you initiate aggression against somebody else who has
• 1:09:00
  done nothing to you and is not a threat to you, you you don't
• 1:09:05
  have any business being outraged if they respond by defending themselves with aggression. So
• 1:09:15
  like, that's that's why I don't like to get into the weeds of this
• 1:09:19
  is an individual natural right and this is not an individual natural right. Well,
• 1:09:25
  okay, forget about the specifics of which things are and which things are
• 1:09:30
  not, which things require you to engage in aggression in order to violate them.
• 1:09:35
  Step across that boundary. Those are those are natural rights, and which
• 1:09:45
  things require the labor of others? Yeah, you don't have the right to
• 1:09:48
  demand the labor of others. That's aggression to a lot of a lot of
• 1:09:53
  the rights that people claim are human rights fundamentally come down to I have the
• 1:09:58
  right to someone else's life, but because of whatever reason, now, even
• 1:10:02
  if you're sick, you still don't have the right to someone else's labor.
• 1:10:08
  Yep, that's right. Hey, with people will like I'm half tempted,
• 1:10:18
  says Piro partists. I'm half tempted to take off my MRA hat and put
• 1:10:23
  on my Georgie's hat with his topic. So you need an all purpose hat,
• 1:10:30
  just one awesome hat that means all of the things you believe. I
• 1:10:32
  have one, and you can't have the EU shack. It's mine mind a
• 1:10:36
  different hat, And somewhere somewhere in this apartment, I have a fancy crocheted
• 1:10:43
  hat with a with frivile, frivolous ruffles that don't do anything around the edge
• 1:10:49
  that I made. There we go. So that's the hat that I'm putting
• 1:10:53
  on. I'm putting on my fancy hat. We are a hat. Yeah,
• 1:10:57
  and talking with a hat is hot speech. Yes, yes, we
• 1:11:02
  engage in hat speech on a regular basis. But but you know it could
• 1:11:09
  be worse. We could be lamass no, no, no llamas with hats.
• 1:11:23
  Oh it kills people. So voting is not a natural right, and
• 1:11:30
  it's it's true. Voting is, in and of itself, an action that
• 1:11:35
  you take in interference with the the pathway that a group is taking. Right.
• 1:11:45
  It might not necessarily be considered an act of aggression, but it is
• 1:11:49
  an act of assertion. The difference between aggression and assertion is pretty pretty easy.
• 1:11:57
  To understand. Aggression is threatening. Assertion is straightforward that you are you
• 1:12:08
  are putting your foot down, but you are not applying any level of force
• 1:12:14
  necessarily. Now, assertion can lead to force, all right. If someone,
• 1:12:21
  for instance, were on my doorstep threatening to come into my home against
• 1:12:26
  my will, and I said, no, you can't come in, and
• 1:12:30
  I had one of my my big fat iron skillets in my hand and held
• 1:12:34
  it up menacingly, that's a that's assertion bording on aggression. Like I haven't
• 1:12:39
  said I'm gonna hit you with this pan, but it's it's assertion bordering on
• 1:12:44
  aggression. If they then try to cross the threshold into my house, that's
• 1:12:47
  aggression. And if I hit them with the pan, then that that becomes
• 1:12:54
  battery and that's violent aggression. So there we go. Not not saying,
• 1:13:03
  by the way, that if you come to my house, I'm gonna hit
• 1:13:05
  you with a frying pan. It depends on entirely on whether or not you're
• 1:13:09
  welcome here. But but there you go. And that's if I don't grab
• 1:13:16
  the ceramic dragon first. If you come to my house, I'll hit you
• 1:13:19
  with a frying pan either which way. Even if you're if you're a lifelong
• 1:13:23
  friend of mine. Just as part of the hazing ritual. There we go.
• 1:13:27
  I will like fight club, I'll hit you with a frying pan like
• 1:13:30
  fifteen times a day for three weeks. How many iron spiders do you have?
• 1:13:34
  Though? What? H it's a type of frying pan. All right,
• 1:13:43
  well twelve, I will administer them all in hazing you. There we
• 1:13:47
  go. Look, Actually, the thing I'm most likely to do with my
• 1:13:56
  iron skillets if you come to my house is COOKI a pizza, because they
• 1:14:00
  they are the best, the best cooking utensil for making a pan pizza.
• 1:14:05
  Great big iron skill. I have a nice big one. So in any
• 1:14:11
  case, she says, voting is not a natural right, it is a
• 1:14:15
  civil right. And remember we this has been a long time ago, we
• 1:14:19
  had this discussion. I can't remember what number HBr talk. We talked about
• 1:14:26
  civil rights and laid out what a natural a human right is versus what a
• 1:14:32
  civil right is. But a civil right is the standard that is set to
• 1:14:43
  enumerate the boundary, or define the boundary between the authority that your government has
• 1:14:51
  and the autonomy that you have as a citizen. Like that's the spot where
• 1:15:00
  where it says, the government goes no further, and this is where you
• 1:15:04
  have authority over the government. That's your civil right. So voting is a
• 1:15:10
  civil right, which means people's rights can be protected even if they don't vote.
• 1:15:15
  Women didn't need to vote to have their natural rights secured because the laws
• 1:15:19
  and institutions of the country protected those rights from the country's creation through the state
• 1:15:26
  and national constitutions and other organic laws that superseded all others. Voting was for
• 1:15:35
  people with literal skin in the game. So again this is a position the
• 1:15:42
  men's rights movement has had for decades. Voting was for people with literal skin
• 1:15:47
  in the game. Those who voted also had to serve on juries, own
• 1:15:53
  property, join the local fire brigade. Fire brigades used to be voluntary.
• 1:15:58
  You didn't get hired to be a fireman. You didn't have to take a
• 1:16:00
  test to become a fireman. Because we didn't have community purchased fire trucks and
• 1:16:10
  community purchased buildings and whole system of here's how we organize firefighting. You had
• 1:16:18
  you had a volunteer group of people that maybe had a vehicle, and when
• 1:16:27
  it originally started, there were not motorized vehicles. It was horse and buggy
• 1:16:31
  And we're talking bucket brigades. There were not fire hoses. There were not
• 1:16:35
  any of those things. So yeah, you had to be part of the
• 1:16:42
  fire brigade. You had to be You could be called into action at any
• 1:16:45
  time if there was a fire, becommandeered into a posse at any time.
• 1:16:53
  You know, little Susie went out to gather berries on the edge of the
• 1:16:56
  woods and hasn't come home. All of the men in the community have to
• 1:17:00
  go out in the woods tonight and look for her. And when we say
• 1:17:04
  men of the community, it might have been people as young as thirteen.
• 1:17:08
  Boys as young as thirteen would be out looking for a little Susie might be
• 1:17:12
  fifteen, and boys as young as thirteen would be out looking for her.
• 1:17:15
  And if Susie got attacked and mould to death by a bear, there might
• 1:17:18
  be a thirteen year old boy finding a mauled corpse as a fine as one
• 1:17:26
  attacked you, unless you fuck with them, so fine, don't worry about
• 1:17:29
  it. Yeah, I did tell everybody, right that everybody always knows the
• 1:17:34
  story of me wrestling Caesar the wrestling Bear back in college. But I think
• 1:17:41
  I did tell everybody. I recently came across an article about that bear that
• 1:17:48
  in twenty ten. See, yeah, yeah, he mauled one of his
• 1:17:55
  handlers to death, young man who there wasn't a conflict moment going on.
• 1:18:03
  He was feeding donuts, so he was just It was just the type of
• 1:18:09
  moment you would have with an animal that you're taking care of, and the
• 1:18:14
  bear, for some reason unknown snapped and Maldagai to death. So yeah,
• 1:18:20
  that's the idea that bears are predictable and safe. It's really stupid. And
• 1:18:27
  by the way, I'm gonna plug something that I'm working on. I'm about
• 1:18:30
  three quarters of the way through the images on a video. As long as
• 1:18:38
  Canva pro works the way I think it works, I should have one done
• 1:18:45
  in the next couple of days. So you should be looking for a video
• 1:18:49
  that will be titled we have to talk about the Bear from me. I
• 1:18:55
  know it's a little after the fact, but it's something that it had to
• 1:19:00
  be done, and it took me longer to get it done. It took
• 1:19:02
  me an extra month to get it done because I got about halfway through the
• 1:19:04
  process and I realized that I needed to actually add some muscle to the arguments
• 1:19:15
  that I was making. So I did that and so I'm almost finished with
• 1:19:20
  it now, kind of video. It's like a solar eclipse. It doesn't
• 1:19:29
  happen often. It only happens when it absolutely has to it cannot be avoided.
• 1:19:33
  It happened a lot more often when I wasn't working so much, but
• 1:19:40
  I love working, so I'm not going to complain. But yeah, so
• 1:19:45
  voting wasn't just something that people, you know, some people had a right
• 1:19:50
  to do and some people didn't, and there was no reason. And we've
• 1:19:55
  been going over this for months, but it's great to see this woman say
• 1:20:00
  this, because again, this is not the attitude that we've consistently seen from
• 1:20:05
  trad cons in general, and in particular trad con women. Voting rights,
• 1:20:13
  she said, did not vest at simply staying life for eighteen years. They
• 1:20:16
  were earned through securing the community against violence by not infrequently risking the voter's own
• 1:20:23
  life. Oh and I'm skipped and joined the militia any time it was required,
• 1:20:31
  which was often, And that's true in early America. There were all
• 1:20:38
  kinds of things the militia was used for. It wasn't just if British soldiers
• 1:20:43
  showed up. And it wasn't even just if there was a conflict between citizens
• 1:20:49
  of the new United States and citizens of the tribes that were in conflict with
• 1:20:59
  the entry right. There was also other stuff, and it was similar to
• 1:21:03
  the use of a posse, So there you go. In addition, voting
• 1:21:10
  was considered a household act. This is something that people don't remember either.
• 1:21:17
  Your vote covered your whole family as heads of their households. The fathers usually
• 1:21:25
  exercised that privilege, but so did widows who were heads of their households.
• 1:21:30
  It's a bit like voting for your favorite contestant and bake Brother, or in
• 1:21:35
  any given reality TV show. And I say reality with Big Old inverted commas.
• 1:21:45
  You know, any given phone number can only vote for any given person
• 1:21:50
  Once's so it's very a family decision. Not that that's how it works.
• 1:21:57
  With Big Brother. It was whichever teenage girl got there first and voted on
• 1:22:02
  their family's behalf vote which degenerate loser they would vote to win a game show.
• 1:22:13
  Yea, And this this sounds reductive in so many ways. Well,
• 1:22:19
  I'm just trying to help you imagine the idea of a family decision, because
• 1:22:25
  it's so alien to to the current generation and indeed the past couple of generations
• 1:22:32
  with any reference frame other than the likes of Big Brother. The idea that
• 1:22:38
  the family would have a vote, that the family as a family would have
• 1:22:45
  a say in anything. But it was it was very much the case for
• 1:22:51
  a great deal of human history for as long as there has been such an
• 1:22:56
  acknowledgment of a family, which was quite a long time. In prehistoric times,
• 1:23:02
  there was those just thing as to family. In the modern day communist
• 1:23:09
  nightmare, the powers that be are pushing for a situation in which there's no
• 1:23:13
  such thing as a family. But for all of time before that, people
• 1:23:20
  respected the idea that families could come together on a single decision, such as
• 1:23:28
  a vote or or a move in a direction, improving the community in some
• 1:23:36
  in some coherent way, I would say, in prehistoric times there was probably
• 1:23:44
  still family cohesion where you know, if you had two people had had babies
• 1:23:54
  together, they probably stayed together and remained in the same like. They they
• 1:24:02
  would live together and they would raise the children together. But they didn't have
• 1:24:11
  a legal concept of family. It just was a thing that you did.
• 1:24:15
  It wasn't you didn't. You don't need a government to tell you that that
• 1:24:19
  you're a unit of residents and a unit of bonds that don't exist between you
• 1:24:29
  and people who are not related to you. Right, It's something that is
• 1:24:33
  naturally occurring, and it's it's sort of a given. It's not something that
• 1:24:42
  that you wouldn't just know. So, uh, yeah, it's yet another
• 1:24:47
  thing against government to me. I don't think government should define what a family
• 1:24:53
  is. But but yeah, so she she goes on with it, describing
• 1:25:01
  it as a household act as heads of their households. The fathers usually exercise
• 1:25:04
  that privilege, but so did widows who were heads of their household. So
• 1:25:08
  she did acknowledge some female voting women voted through the representation of their husbands,
• 1:25:13
  brothers, and sons, just like their husbands, brothers, and sons were
• 1:25:15
  in turn represented by those they elected to the state and national legislators and executives
• 1:25:23
  and women. In terms of women having that representation through their husbands and fathers,
• 1:25:33
  feminist will talk as if you know, a man could just ignore what
• 1:25:39
  his wife said and still have a livable environment at home. But I want
• 1:25:45
  to remind you that when voting first came around, one of the things that
• 1:25:48
  we've discussed in previous episodes, was the secret ballot is a development of later
• 1:25:55
  times, right a more recent history when voting was new and clear up into
• 1:26:04
  the at least the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, voting was not done by secret
• 1:26:13
  ballot. It was done right out in public, in front of a crowd
• 1:26:15
  of people who could see how you voted. Because of the method by which
• 1:26:21
  the vote was done, so men wouldn't rely on their wife not knowing how
• 1:26:29
  they voted, because their wife would necessarily know their wife might be there when
• 1:26:36
  they voted. Women often engaged in the practice of looking on, which meant
• 1:26:42
  that they attended the vote and they could see not only how their husband voted,
• 1:26:48
  but how their neighbors voted, and how other members of the community outside
• 1:26:55
  their neighborhood voted, so people would know. For instance, let's say the
• 1:27:00
  city of Townsville decided they were gonna have a vote on whether or not to
• 1:27:06
  put a fountain in the city park, and maybe they have to remove a
• 1:27:14
  play area in the park. Maybe there was a nice, big field that
• 1:27:18
  the kids were using to play some kind of game, and the city decided
• 1:27:21
  they wanted a pretty fountain there, and you know, one side of the
• 1:27:26
  city was full of people that had a lot of money and their kids could
• 1:27:30
  play on their properties. On the other side of the city was full of
• 1:27:32
  people that lived in apartments and their kids needed a park to play in.
• 1:27:38
  And you find out that all of the rich people voted for the fountain and
• 1:27:41
  all of the poor people voted against it, you might find that there would
• 1:27:45
  be conflict over that after the election, regardless of who won, and people
• 1:27:50
  would judge based on income and everything. Where today we would all go show
• 1:27:57
  up at the polling place and nobody would see how you voted. Not only
• 1:28:04
  are you not voting by a method that is easy to spot, people are
• 1:28:09
  not allowed to go and try to examine it. So nobody knows who specifically
• 1:28:15
  voted for what unless you answer questions in an interview afterward, right, And
• 1:28:24
  so that would change the nature of how people respond to the result. And
• 1:28:33
  there's probably a city named Townsville somewhere in the United States too, piropartist says,
• 1:28:39
  unknowingly naming an Australian city Townsville. I don't know if you're familiar with
• 1:28:45
  cartoons from the US, but there's a cartoon called The Powerpuff Girls that's where
• 1:28:54
  they lived within the city of Townsville. But yeah, so women voted through
• 1:29:02
  the representation of their husbands, and they knew how their husbands voted. It
• 1:29:09
  wasn't just something where they discussed it and then they had to trust him to
• 1:29:13
  go do what he said he was going to do, and they would never
• 1:29:16
  have any way of confirming it. That she says is how Republican government works.
• 1:29:27
  Which when she's saying Republican government, she's not saying government by the Republican
• 1:29:31
  Party, but a representative republic through representation, not direct democracy. The founder's
• 1:29:40
  knew direct democracy usually really means mob government, and they didn't want that because
• 1:29:44
  it breeds chaos and state sponsored looting through wealth redistribution, which representative government has
• 1:29:53
  led to as well. It just happened a lot more slowly. I thankfully
• 1:30:02
  half or more of the federal budget is used for welfare. Now it's engaged
• 1:30:13
  in either paying out to people or paying for the bureaucracy that is in place
• 1:30:20
  to pay out to people. It's you really think about it, it's most
• 1:30:31
  of the government is involved in social services. So not imposing voting duties on
• 1:30:45
  women was humane because it's inhumane to ask a nursing mother to serve on jury
• 1:30:49
  duty when her baby doesn't take a bottle, a position I've been in twice.
• 1:30:57
  It's inhumane to ask a young woman to carer a rucksack that crumbles her
• 1:31:01
  knee joint at twice the rate of a man's. It's inhumane for a woman
• 1:31:09
  to give birth and then leave her baby for full time physical labor just a
• 1:31:12
  few weeks later. So this is that last statement I think comes from a
• 1:31:16
  position of privilege, because I know a lot of women who've had to do
• 1:31:19
  that. They just didn't go back to the military. They went to work
• 1:31:23
  at a gas station, or in a nursing home, or a grocery store,
• 1:31:27
  at a restaurant. Maternity leave is for people with money because it's not
• 1:31:32
  paid, and it shouldn't be. Nobody owes you money for having a baby,
• 1:31:39
  Like that's something that a lot of women do not understand. Nobody owes
• 1:31:43
  you a dime just because you have made a helpless person dependent on you.
• 1:31:47
  That was your choice. Like does the army have mandates for women to to
• 1:32:00
  take any kind of birth control that you have to put a coil up dismatched
• 1:32:04
  to join the army? No, Okay, that would be problematic. So
• 1:32:10
  in the situation you are, it's a simple case of just don't fuck people.
• 1:32:14
  No. I get that that's easier for women than it is for men,
• 1:32:17
  because men can just fuck women and not be biologically compromised as a result
• 1:32:28
  of that. But the rule is still the same, just don't fuck people.
• 1:32:33
  I guess nobody follows that rule. And when women don't follow that rule,
• 1:32:39
  they get pregnant. Don't follow that rule, they just happen to get
• 1:32:43
  a Vietnamese prostitute pregnant. But that's a way in which men and women are
• 1:32:48
  different. Can we go ahead and put this forward as a piece of evidence
• 1:32:56
  in the argument as to why it might be ethical to treat men and women
• 1:33:02
  differently when it comes to important things like being in the army and account At
• 1:33:08
  that point we acknowledge that men and we're different, biologically different, and the
• 1:33:13
  biological sex is a thing. Well, we can express this to a point.
• 1:33:19
  The point where the rubber meets the road is is how many insane transactivists
• 1:33:26
  have been put in charge of the army Yep? Well, yeah, you've
• 1:33:30
  seen you've seen the state of thing. Sure, yeah, I unfortunately,
• 1:33:34
  Yeah, if you all want to know what I think in terms of women
• 1:33:40
  and reproductive rights and reproductive behavior and everything, go to Paul Elam's YouTube channel
• 1:33:46
  after you've watched this and find a video called I C M I twenty colon
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  Hannah Wallen Dash Reproductive Rights in the count Ability Gap. What I had to
• 1:34:01
  say in that video is pretty much my whole outlook on this. And I'm
• 1:34:06
  embarrassed for women in regard to how women have responded to advancements and our ability
• 1:34:16
  to control our reproductive functions because men have put a lot of effort into giving
• 1:34:25
  us all of the aces in the deck, and we have completely floundered.
• 1:34:32
  Right, we wasted them so and I can't say other women wasted them.
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  We I did too, Right, That's something I'm guilty of. So I
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  have my position on this comes from recognizing my own wrongdoing and how it has
• 1:34:57
  affected the people who I love the most in the whole world, and what
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  I wish I had done differently for their benefit, and looking at how other
• 1:35:10
  women growing up are put in the same position where they end up being the
• 1:35:15
  bad guy in that situation, and then they have to watch how it affects
• 1:35:20
  the people they love and The worst part about it is that society lies to
• 1:35:25
  women about this and makes them feel like they're helpless and not responsible for the
• 1:35:30
  situation. So they don't even have the control mentally to say, I'm not
• 1:35:36
  going to let this happen to my family. I'm not going to make this
• 1:35:40
  happen to my family. I'm going to protect my family. I'm going to
• 1:35:44
  make things better for my family. They don't get to achieve that, right.
• 1:35:51
  That's a horrible thing to do to people. It's a horrible thing to
• 1:35:54
  do to their family, and it's a horrible thing to do to them.
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  So so yeah, I want people to see that and respond to it.
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  It's from three years ago, but I you know, I stand by all
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  my old videos and this one. This was my speech to ICEMI twenty twenty.
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  So the one good thing about the lockdown was that I was able to
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  actually speak at ICMI. I might have a heart attack and die if you
• 1:36:27
  put me on the stage, but I can make a video. So I
• 1:36:32
  have to get over the stage, fright. It's there's no cause for it,
• 1:36:39
  Like, I'm not actually afraid of a thing, it's just there.
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  It just I just have panic attacks when I get up on stage in front
• 1:36:46
  of people. I actually am seed something at ICMI nineteen and the whole time
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  I don't think my heartbeat got below one hundred and fifty, just like it
• 1:37:00
  felt like it was trying to escape. So but anyway, so there there's
• 1:37:08
  my take on it. Uh, definitely look at that video. Remember it's
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  Paul Elam's channel, and uh it's it's something that that I think if people
• 1:37:19
  understood what I am trying to get across about reproductive accountability, everybody's lives would
• 1:37:29
  be better. And the people whose lives would improve the most in terms of
• 1:37:34
  the outcomes from from that would be children. When are we going to when
• 1:37:45
  are we going to draft children? Well, that's already been done. What
• 1:37:48
  wait? What? Well, the Revolutionary War we started out drafting children.
• 1:37:57
  We don't do it now. Well, in my opinion, like I legally
• 1:38:02
  we don't draft children. But in my opinion, if I haven't met an
• 1:38:08
  eighteen year old that I don't think of as a child, I understand there
• 1:38:16
  has to be a point in time when we decide people are adults and they
• 1:38:19
  can vote and all that, But it has never seemed right to me that
• 1:38:27
  at that age people are going to war, and it's not just wrong that
• 1:38:31
  it's only happening to boys, it's wrong that it's happening. We can start
• 1:38:42
  with not infantilizing so many people, because I'm not sure it's normal for eighteen
• 1:38:48
  year olds to be considered children. I mean it is when it's politically expedient,
• 1:38:55
  particularly when it comes to referring to college women as children. Suddenly you
• 1:39:01
  canclaim that whoever racked them was a child wrapers or that's stuff. No,
• 1:39:08
  that's where my take on it comes from. You freached the point where we
• 1:39:13
  have the oldest children in the world. Like someone could be eighteen years old
• 1:39:17
  or I twenty one years old and still not be allowed to drink alcohol or
• 1:39:24
  shoot a gun or do whatever it is or whatever country you're in, Whereas
• 1:39:29
  for most of human history people were adults by the age of fourteen. Now
• 1:39:32
  that's not necessarily right either. Here's the thing. My take on this partly
• 1:39:41
  comes from the fact that your brain is still developing, It still has some
• 1:39:45
  of its plasticity at eighteen. Your brain is still not fully grown at eighteen,
• 1:39:53
  and that's both sexes. So there are levels of impotency that you will
• 1:40:00
  develop for the next few years that to me are pre adulthood differences, and
• 1:40:14
  that to me, that indicates that it's too young to be sending people into
• 1:40:18
  military service. That's just my I don't expect other people to agree with me
• 1:40:28
  on that, but that's my personal opinion. Like there are things when I
• 1:40:32
  was eighteen that the way that I handled them, just a few years later,
• 1:40:40
  I could look back and say, why didn't I think of this?
• 1:40:42
  Why didn't I think of that? Well, the reason partly was because I
• 1:40:47
  lack the maturity, And so there are some sense, there's some common sense
• 1:40:59
  in fact for certain limitations extending clear on up to the age of twenty five,
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  and I would say nobody should be pushed into military service prior to that
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  trained. Sure, you can train eighteen year olds, you could train sixteen
• 1:41:17
  year olds, and there's nothing wrong with training people that young. In fact,
• 1:41:24
  it might help with their brain development. But to send a person into
• 1:41:30
  combat that is at like a senior in high school, I think that's crazy,
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  but we do it. And during the Revolutionary War, like I said,
• 1:41:43
  there were soldiers as young as seven years old. They didn't carry muskets
• 1:41:48
  and shoot people. They might have carried muskets, actually some of them,
• 1:41:53
  but they didn't. They weren't combat soldiers. They were targets, but they
• 1:42:03
  were not combat soldiers. They were playing marching orders or carrying messages and things
• 1:42:11
  like that. But they were conscripted, if not by their communities than by
• 1:42:16
  their parents. So she goes on, it's let's see, so I stopped
• 1:42:29
  at the full time physical labor thing, because that is a class division right
• 1:42:32
  there. It's inhumane to place a young woman in a fox hole with a
• 1:42:36
  young man for days where they defecate and bake in the sun and are susceptible
• 1:42:41
  to barbarians who routinely rape female captives. This is something else that's a class
• 1:42:45
  division. I think more women in the lower income echelons are aware that male
• 1:42:53
  captives also get raped than in the other and murdered. I don't know if
• 1:43:00
  that counts for anything. If if you if you're female, you might get
• 1:43:04
  raped and then murdered. If you're male, you might get murdered. Well,
• 1:43:09
  if your male, you might get raped, but you'll get murdered in
• 1:43:14
  a much more brutal way and raped in much more brutal way. Let's face
• 1:43:18
  it. Yeah, and and uh, you're more likely to get murdered,
• 1:43:25
  whereas a female captive is more likely to survive. Not asking young, child
• 1:43:34
  bearing age women to assume the physical defense responsibilities required to earn voting privileges was
• 1:43:40
  not sexism. It was magnanim magnan enemy magnan. I'm not even gonna try.
• 1:43:49
  I'm terrible at pronouncing certain words. I don't do bad with cinnamon,
• 1:43:54
  but that one gets me every time, and changeable. You could just say
• 1:44:00
  magnum. People would know that you tried to say it was menomen, But
• 1:44:08
  yes, men. Men have been magnanimous toward women for centuries, and women
• 1:44:13
  have been accusing men of oppressing them the whole time. But American women have
• 1:44:20
  rejected this magnanimity for about a century. Those speaking for them have demanded that
• 1:44:30
  our government make women do everything men do. You should should hear me try
• 1:44:39
  to pronounce a particular type of sauce, I sound worse than yoseamity sam Well,
• 1:44:46
  this is a package deal. It's not fair for women to get the
• 1:44:48
  same privileges as men without also executing the same responsibilities. If women want to
• 1:44:55
  vote and be treated in every way by our government as if they are actually
• 1:44:59
  men, that includes being subject to the draft. If you don't like it,
• 1:45:03
  ladies, how about start embracing your womanhood instead of continuing to insist everyone
• 1:45:09
  treat you like men. Amen. Amen's sister a flat So, I you
• 1:45:16
  know, I'm excited about this, and I'm also skeptical like I have my
• 1:45:23
  I'm not gonna say that I think this woman is lying or anything like that,
• 1:45:26
  because I don't. I think this is definitely her perspective and she is.
• 1:45:30
  She's right. You know, women need to shit or get off the
• 1:45:33
  pot. Either you do what men do to earn the rights that men have,
• 1:45:44
  or you accept that you have fewer rights. Right. Coviture wasn't a
• 1:45:50
  means of oppressing women. It was a means of shielding women from the harsh
• 1:45:56
  realities that men have to deal with every day as a function and a side
• 1:46:02
  effect of their accountability. Man's responsible for the financial welfare of his family,
• 1:46:12
  the legal status of his family, the legal structure of his family, and
• 1:46:17
  the legal relationship between his family and the state. And he has always been
• 1:46:24
  responsible as long as a state has existed, as long as there have been
• 1:46:29
  types of government, they have held men and only men accountable for that relationship
• 1:46:36
  and that status and that existence. Right. If a man's family starves,
• 1:46:43
  he's a deadbeat. It's not. He's not a victim of starvation. He
• 1:46:48
  failed. That's the way that men are treated. And if a man is
• 1:46:56
  starving, people don't help him. They assume that if they try to help
• 1:47:01
  him, whatever is causing him to starve, whatever failure on his part is
• 1:47:06
  causing him to starve, he will engage in that failure and he will use
• 1:47:11
  the resources that they give him to engage in it. That's why when men
• 1:47:16
  need help, they don't get help, because it's assumed that if they need
• 1:47:21
  help, it's because they failed at something due to a character flaw or a
• 1:47:27
  bad behavioral pattern, and any help that is given is just going to fall
• 1:47:30
  into that same whole. That's what men have been dealing with throughout history.
• 1:47:40
  It's men who have had to take risks for their families. It's men.
• 1:47:44
  It's the man who's expected to go and confront an intruder. It's the man
• 1:47:47
  who is expected to go out and earn the resources for the family. It's
• 1:47:54
  the man who is expected to maintain boundaries between his family and the next family.
• 1:48:00
  Right. Women are the ones that maintain the connection between their family and
• 1:48:04
  the next family. But it's the man who says, you know, yes,
• 1:48:10
  but you don't live at my house, so when it gets dark out,
• 1:48:13
  it's time for you to go home, right. It's the man who
• 1:48:17
  says, I'm sorry, we can't donate to your cause we don't have enough
• 1:48:20
  money to buy our dinner. And if he has to say that, he
• 1:48:27
  has to say it with his head down because he's admitting he didn't bring in
• 1:48:30
  enough resources. Women have never had that responsibility. Women have never been the
• 1:48:35
  ones who get looked at as failures under that circumstance. Only men, and
• 1:48:45
  it's only been men who have had to worry that if their country isn't strong
• 1:48:50
  enough and another country comes in and takes over their country, that their family
• 1:48:58
  is going to be harmed by foreigners that have a different way of life than
• 1:49:01
  their own. It's only men who have to worry that they won't be able
• 1:49:09
  to protect their family from that, or that they will be called upon to
• 1:49:13
  protect their family from that at the cost of their own lives. Because when
• 1:49:19
  that happens, women join the dominant culture, they just morph into members of
• 1:49:28
  that culture, and they go along with those rules, and they change the
• 1:49:31
  way they live and they take their children with them if the culture allows the
• 1:49:38
  boy children to live right, and civilization has been built on that. And
• 1:49:46
  to protect women from having to face those standards, from having to uphold that
• 1:49:56
  relationship between their household and the government, and to defend their families against the
• 1:50:02
  harsh realities of the world, men took legal responsibility for women, so that
• 1:50:11
  if a woman committed a crime, her husband went to jail, she didn't.
• 1:50:16
  If a woman caused a debt to be incurred by her household, her
• 1:50:21
  husband had to pay it, she didn't. And our society took care of
• 1:50:29
  widows and children and single mothers throughout history as best it could in any given
• 1:50:34
  time. It may not have always been great, but it was better than
• 1:50:40
  what was done for men. And then women in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries
• 1:50:48
  decided to whine about being oppressed, and they came out and demanded that all
• 1:50:54
  of the rights, the civil rights that men had in order to facilitate their
• 1:51:03
  ability to live up to all of the obligations they had, that women should
• 1:51:09
  have those two and all of the restrictions that women faced in order to prevent
• 1:51:14
  them from interfering with men's ability to meet their obligations to women, those should
• 1:51:20
  be erased, but men should still have those obligations. And our civilization is
• 1:51:27
  falling apart because of it, like it's dying. Western civilization is dying and
• 1:51:36
  it's screaming on the way out. You can hear it all day, every
• 1:51:42
  day. The death cries of modern civilization are horrifying and pathetic at the same
• 1:51:49
  time. And women don't even realize they're strangling it. Either. We have
• 1:52:00
  to step up and face the same level of obligation that men have, or
• 1:52:09
  step back and go back to the restrictions of coverture. Because you can't have
• 1:52:16
  rights without responsibilities. You can't have autonomy if you don't have accountability. It
• 1:52:29
  doesn't exist that way. It's like trying to have it's trying to have a
• 1:52:36
  lake without water. Autonomy is predicated on accountability. What women have I don't
• 1:52:50
  know even what to call it. It's privilege. Isn't even a good enough
• 1:52:53
  word for it, because it's not even a good thing for women. This
• 1:53:01
  has only happened because we have this. We have this system of mass broadcast
• 1:53:10
  communication. We have this godhead, and it is effectively a godhead telling women
• 1:53:15
  from on high that they are victims and have always been victims, and no
• 1:53:21
  matter what happens, they will always be victims of men. And men are
• 1:53:28
  predators and have always been predators and always be, always will be predators.
• 1:53:33
  And the only reason this nightmare is able to continue is because so many people
• 1:53:39
  are hooked into this propaganda machine that keeps feeding them these lies, these fundamental
• 1:53:47
  lies. They keep getting distracted by all the smaller lies, and they're arguing
• 1:53:53
  about how lying those lies are, but they're all still convinced of the overarching
• 1:54:00
  lie that women are victims and men are predators and they always have been,
• 1:54:08
  and that this is how the human race is defined, That women are victims
• 1:54:12
  of men and men are predators of women, and that's all there is.
• 1:54:15
  It's one of my street and that's all it will ever be. And if
• 1:54:20
  we didn't have this machine pumping this narrative into everyone's heads, then things would
• 1:54:30
  go back to normal. I mean, people are always always talking about,
• 1:54:33
  Okay, what's going to be what's going to be the inflection point, what's
• 1:54:38
  going to be the point everyone snaps and women stop being quite so self indulgent.
• 1:54:45
  Well, it's not going to happen as long as as long as this
• 1:54:49
  nonsense is being beamed into every television utry all over the world. In fact,
• 1:54:58
  women won't revert back to their natural roles as long as they have access
• 1:55:04
  to this psycho box in the corner of the living room that's constantly telling them
• 1:55:11
  they're victims and that, and that they are victims of men. And a
• 1:55:18
  lot of people have tried to draw up some kind of doomsday scenario the point
• 1:55:23
  at which women will snap out of this, and honestly, it's not going
• 1:55:28
  to be until there is no more TV broadcast. It won't happen until there
• 1:55:32
  is nothing but static being being beamed into your televisions. Because as long as
• 1:55:43
  women are given this, this broadcast assurance that they are the victims and that
• 1:55:48
  men are the bad guys, they're going to keep doing this. Like I've
• 1:55:53
  often said, it's you know, women aren't the enemy. The serpent is
• 1:55:56
  the enemy, and the serpent is the media, the government, and the
• 1:56:01
  constant lies that they're beaming into everyone. And we like, we like to
• 1:56:08
  think there's going to be a reckoning, but the reckoning is going to be
• 1:56:13
  horrible, because it's not going to happen until women are no longer able to
• 1:56:17
  access this this power of lies to which they've been subjected over the last one
• 1:56:27
  hundred years of of broadcast media. People often blame the internet for how wrong
• 1:56:35
  everything is going, But good god, y'all, it's the only escape from
• 1:56:43
  this nonsense. This is happening because of broadcast media. Well, not just
• 1:56:48
  because of the broadcast media happen Feminism pre dates radio, yeah it does.
• 1:56:58
  But the the convergence of communism and all its various identitarian arms and the advents
• 1:57:06
  of broadcast media, I think that was that was the hot box, That
• 1:57:11
  was the perfect storm. The real problem is that when authoritarians have a hammer
• 1:57:20
  hold a chokehold on mass communications. Mass communication has existed for well well before
• 1:57:30
  we've had broadcasts. Before we had broadcast, we had the printing press.
• 1:57:32
  Before we had the printing press, we had scribes. There's always been some
• 1:57:35
  form of mass communication. The only thing that has changed is that it's gotten
• 1:57:41
  more rapid and more widely available. So as as mass communication becomes more widely
• 1:57:50
  available and the available availability of information and being able to research and judge for
• 1:58:00
  yourself is more widely available, better decisions are made overall by the greater part
• 1:58:06
  of the community, not just men but women as well. But when authoritarians
• 1:58:15
  get a choke hold on the availability of information and the availability and accessibility of
• 1:58:25
  mass communication, they are able to control narratives, and stupid people and selfish
• 1:58:32
  people will not question that, and then you end up with very bad mass
• 1:58:38
  decision making, and that's what's happened in the last couple hundred years. Probably
• 1:58:46
  the best argument out there for freedom of speech and freedom of information. So
• 1:58:51
  if you want the best decisions from people that make decisions collectively, voting is
• 1:59:00
  the ultimate form of collectivism, right, because you're making decisions collectively and then
• 1:59:05
  you are abiding by the decision even if you disagree with it. But if
• 1:59:13
  we're going to have a system like that, the only way that it can
• 1:59:17
  work without oppressing people is for information of all kinds to be freely available and
• 1:59:27
  for communication of all kinds to be freely available, so that people can make
• 1:59:31
  arguments and hash out ideas and nobody gets to tell other people what to think
• 1:59:39
  without being questioned and challenged. And unfortunately that's not where we are right now.
• 1:59:46
  And in fact, the powers that be, the authoritarians in multiple countries,
• 1:59:54
  with the support of stupid people, are trying to put a choke cold
• 2:00:00
  on the Internet so that you can't find information and you can't communicate your questions
• 2:00:05
  and challenges to narratives that are being used to determine how people are going to
• 2:00:11
  vote. Very scary time in my opinion. Yes so, but I'm still
• 2:00:24
  very encouraged to even just to see one woman in the conservative spectrum, a
• 2:00:30
  woman who is not just you know, some chick that got on social media
• 2:00:35
  like me and started saying things and people started listening. But somebody who is
• 2:00:41
  in an establishment publication, who is central to that establishment publication saying this.
• 2:00:49
  That's encouraging. And I don't want to make anything bigger out of it than
• 2:00:57
  it is because it is still just one woman. But it is very refreshing
• 2:01:03
  to see this. So with that, I don't know if you have anything
• 2:01:09
  else to add. I think we're good. Good. Then. I didn't
• 2:01:15
  see any super chats, I didn't see any rumble rants. But I don't
• 2:01:25
  have any super chows on this either, so we don't have anything that we
• 2:01:29
  need to read off. I don't even see one from Meredith g this time
• 2:01:33
  around, and it's probably because we did. We switched back and forth this
• 2:01:39
  happened the last time. We switched Tuesday for Thursday. But I'm not going
• 2:01:43
  to be here on Thursday, so in order to have both shows, we
• 2:01:46
  switched, so we'll well, I won't see you on Thursday, but I
• 2:01:53
  will see you next Tuesday, and it'll be back to the new show on
• 2:01:57
  Tuesday and HBr Talk on Thursday. But yeah, I don't see any superchows.
• 2:02:06
  Richard Beer says, superchows, but there aren't any showing in the Superchow
• 2:02:11
  channel. I'm going to flip out of there and come back just to be
• 2:02:15
  sure. Nope, no Superchows. So so the last thing I see is
• 2:02:19
  from The Great Indoors, which Brian already read. But it's punched some slave
• 2:02:29
  owners in the face and then flammbay them with your raven Moondragon. Now I
• 2:02:32
  have to go find that show and watch it to see what that was about,
• 2:02:35
  because that's great. But with that, thanks to everybody for listening to
• 2:02:42
  this. I'm grateful that you all listened to me go over this article,
• 2:02:47
  and I hope you guys got out of it what I got out of it,
• 2:02:50
  and and I'm interested to see if this influences other traditionalist conservative women and
• 2:03:00
  what may or may not happen in the future as a result of any influence,
• 2:03:05
  Like does this mean are we seeing the beginning of the tide turning?
• 2:03:12
  Or do you think this is going to be a fart in the skillet?
• 2:03:16
  Meredith G says she did send a super chow it'll come through later. Well,
• 2:03:21
  that's I wanted to come through now so I can read it on this
• 2:03:26
  show. Well, thank you, Meredith G. I know you probably said
• 2:03:30
  something along the lines of what you usually say, honey for the badgers and
• 2:03:38
  stuff. But oh, I'm looking at scrolling up and I don't know if
• 2:03:45
  we read this last time or not. Last Tuesday we got a one from
• 2:03:54
  from Dane. Conscription is a violation of a basic human right, that being
• 2:03:58
  a full body violation and attack on men's bodyly autonomy. That's a very salient
• 2:04:02
  point we talk. We hear about bodily autonomy from women all the time when
• 2:04:08
  they're talking about wanting to kill their babies. But that argument goes out the
• 2:04:13
  window when we start talking about conscription. All of a sudden, they are
• 2:04:17
  no longer bodily autonomy is no longer a sacred right. It's just something that
• 2:04:23
  we're supposed to do for women, right, But in any case, thanks
• 2:04:28
  everybody for listening, and thanks to everybody who works in the background to make
• 2:04:32
  HBr talk happen, and thanks guys for talking about this article with me.
• 2:04:36
  Good Night all