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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, November 20 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Jaguarris. Did you don't Jack Jack Warris, did you know?
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps to John Oh says
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Jaguarris Drive Time starts right now. I think you'll
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  Speaker 1: see Big Doll did just beat it? Cansel Brooks damn
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  Speaker 1: feel bear for down the morn what I thought the
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  Speaker 1: first replay. I call him the voice of the Jags
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  Speaker 1: defensive line, right. I mean he may be the voice
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  Speaker 1: of the Jaguars for sure, because the guy never stops talking,
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  Speaker 1: and when he talks, it's highly entertaining. Avery Jones Mike Dup.
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  Speaker 1: This week you can catch all of it. It will
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  Speaker 1: be post It is posted posted yesterday on the website. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: check it out. You will not be disappointed in it.
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  Speaker 1: Bryan Sexton, along with Ashland Sullivan here with you on
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  Speaker 1: a Tuesday morning edition of Jags Drivetime. We we have
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  Speaker 1: a lot that we talked about yesterday and we're excited
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  Speaker 1: to bring it that show. However, then that game happens
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  Speaker 1: last night and I went to bed and I came
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  Speaker 1: back out, you know, got up to get a drink
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  Speaker 1: of water, and it was forty one to forty something
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  Speaker 1: like that, and I thought, wow, because I've been making
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  Speaker 1: the case to you and John about how the league
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  Speaker 1: has changed. Defense isn't just critical anymore. It's all offense. Right,
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  Speaker 1: the ram Saints game a couple of weeks ago, we're
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  Speaker 1: still talking about. And then I go to bed and
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  Speaker 1: I get up in the morning and it's one and
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  Speaker 1: it's the first time in NFL history that both teams
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  Speaker 1: have scored fifty points. It's the first time that a
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  Speaker 1: team has scored fifty points and lost in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Um Buckle up, folks. You like it, you don't like it, good, bad, indifferent.
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  Speaker 1: It is now basketball on grass. It is score score, score,
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  Speaker 1: score score at all times. It has everyone talking on
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  Speaker 1: social media and just in general conversation. I went, I
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  Speaker 1: always check my fault right when I wake up on Twitter,
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  Speaker 1: and probably the first tweets were about Patrick Mahomes and
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  Speaker 1: the offense and the scoring and how exciting and oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, I want more, I want more, and just
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  Speaker 1: everyone was feeding into this game, and you don't see
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  Speaker 1: that normally. So I take a five am exercise class
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  Speaker 1: and the same people are there almost every day. Right,
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  Speaker 1: I walk in, and all they want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: is the game, the game, the game, the game, the game,
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  Speaker 1: and truthfully, all the ladies were pumped about the game
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  Speaker 1: because they like the points, right, it's exciting that it
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  Speaker 1: brings in the casual viewer to a different degree, and
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  Speaker 1: they're all jacked about it. And the guys, of course
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about what about defense, right, right, But even
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  Speaker 1: they would tell you they enjoyed what is fourteen touchdowns?
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  Speaker 1: Joe Fortunato whispered to me as I walked in, By
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  Speaker 1: the way, he's often the birdie when I say a
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  Speaker 1: birdie whisper to my here, it's generally Joe that they
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  Speaker 1: have more. They were more touchdowns in that game then
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  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills have scored season long. So it's just
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  Speaker 1: it just is right. It just is that people want points.
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  Speaker 1: The rules have been tweaked over the last couple of
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  Speaker 1: years to create more points because more points create more ratings, right, right,
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  Speaker 1: More ratings creates more revenue. It's a business. That's it's
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  Speaker 1: what it's about. So, Peter King, if you don't believe me,
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  Speaker 1: we did. Football has changed. Yes, I think if you
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  Speaker 1: go back and you look at the chief scores, what
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  Speaker 1: do they lose in New England forty and they won
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  Speaker 1: last are they they want a game where they scored
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  Speaker 1: fifty points. I forget which game it is, but we
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  Speaker 1: saw the Rams and the Saints and now the Rams
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  Speaker 1: and the Chiefs. Not everyone can do it yet, God knows.
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  Speaker 1: In Jacksonville they can't do. The offense isn't built to
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  Speaker 1: do that, but I think it will be. I think
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  Speaker 1: right now, if you're looking at this team, you're thinking,
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  Speaker 1: we have to retool this thing big time, and I
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  Speaker 1: think they can. Of course, it's all predicated on finding
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback. Um, I don't want, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: say defense doesn't matter because four touchdowns last night, we're
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  Speaker 1: on defense. But if you go to the Ram the
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  Speaker 1: Ram Saints game, they just needed that defense. The Rams
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  Speaker 1: are the Saints both who have talent on defense, not
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  Speaker 1: stacked like this one is, but talent on defense and
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  Speaker 1: they needed to make two or three play. So if
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  Speaker 1: you've got that, you can pass rush, you're a linebacker,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a safety in a corner, and then you build
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  Speaker 1: with less expensive complementary players on defense, rely on your
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's if you will write your your stars to
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  Speaker 1: make plays. But you focus on the offense. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and you know the Jaguars have some decisions to make
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  Speaker 1: this off season, and I'm not you know we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about that anyway. I mean, coming off the Steeler's loss,
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  Speaker 1: now out on that game, on the heels of that game,
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  Speaker 1: that's what everybody wants to see, like it or not.
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  Speaker 1: The customers want to see, and you can't help but
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  Speaker 1: want to move in that direction if you're any NFL
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  Speaker 1: team that isn't there yet. Now me, I like defense, right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm fifty. I grew up in the Golden era where
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  Speaker 1: you had the great defenses of the seventies. You wann't
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  Speaker 1: want that anymore. They want point and so the game
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  Speaker 1: has to change. It doesn't matter whether I like it
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  Speaker 1: or I don't. It's just as clear as day that
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  Speaker 1: that's and you think you loved it, thought it was awesome.
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  Speaker 1: But I do agree. I like the defense football, and
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  Speaker 1: that's what I grew up watching, especially with SCC football.
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  Speaker 1: But it's completely changed, and it's changed quicker than I
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  Speaker 1: think all of us have thought, especially this season. It
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  Speaker 1: seems like three weeks ago we weren't talking about this
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  Speaker 1: after that Saints game. Then all of a sudden, this is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the whole conversation, and we'll we'll have this
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  Speaker 1: conversation in December, as we're not talking about a playoff
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  Speaker 1: run for the Jaguars. I mean, this is something we'll
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  Speaker 1: look at the roster and the salary cap and how
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  Speaker 1: all of this goes for. But someone tweeted busines this
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  Speaker 1: morning and I don't want to take credit for it, um,
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  Speaker 1: but as I'm watching some of that game less and
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, if you're a run stuffing defensive tackle,
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  Speaker 1: you're you're not going to get paid because now you're
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  Speaker 1: not needed at that point. Four key position, just four
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  Speaker 1: that you have to have and have to pay quarterback
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  Speaker 1: is obvious. UM receiver weapon. You gotta have one. You
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  Speaker 1: gotta have one. You gotta have that Tyreek kill, that
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  Speaker 1: one guy that Brandon cooks that you just can't match
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  Speaker 1: up with one on one. UM. The cornerback who covers them.
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  Speaker 1: You've got that here with Jalen Ramsey for sure, right.
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  Speaker 1: And the pass rusher who chases the quarterback, right, you
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  Speaker 1: got that with Unique and gon Quay. Um. You could
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  Speaker 1: add a fifth that pass rushing defense, that part of me,
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  Speaker 1: that past blocking tackle. Um, but that's gonna be the
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  Speaker 1: left of the right, and they can move that weapon
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  Speaker 1: away from you. So four key positions that you have
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  Speaker 1: to pay. Then you have to draft well and find
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  Speaker 1: complimentary players. What if we talked about this team was
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  Speaker 1: built to play complimentary football. Gotta stick to it. Obviously.
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  Speaker 1: It all starts with the quarterback, UM, an offensive weapons, well,
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  Speaker 1: an offensive weapons. So it was first two. Yeah, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was an incredibly exciting game. If you love it now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I gotta be honest, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I want to watch every week. You do think
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  Speaker 1: when you're watching it, you think, and I was reading
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of Twitter comments. Everyone's saying, where's the defense?
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  Speaker 1: You know you love that style of play, But then
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  Speaker 1: you're also thinking, on the other side, there's no defensive
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  Speaker 1: but the defense. The two defenses last night and they're
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  Speaker 1: great team. The two defenses scored four touchdown right, It
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  Speaker 1: made it even more exciting, right, So, I mean there
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  Speaker 1: is absolutely a place. But they were explosive plays on defense, right.
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  Speaker 1: The sacks stop touchdown? Right, Um, people want to see that.
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  Speaker 1: So again, a couple of key places on both sides
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  Speaker 1: of the ball, filling with complimentary players. It's all predicated
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  Speaker 1: on the quarterback. And in Jacksonville, you don't have a
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  Speaker 1: guy not the season, not right now, you just you don't.
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  Speaker 1: That's not what Blake bortles. It's not his style of play.
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  Speaker 1: And everyone's sitting here going, yeah, yeah, yeah, we've been asking,
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  Speaker 1: we've been asking, Well, these guys here built to win,
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  Speaker 1: and they did with that style of play. Though now though,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be a philosophical conversation and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do, but they've got to get
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  Speaker 1: in line because that's what people are gunning for. And
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  Speaker 1: the only way that you're going to beat the Chiefs,
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  Speaker 1: the only way you got to store points, score them right.
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  Speaker 1: It's not about stopping them or holding them to seventeen
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  Speaker 1: points because you're not going to do that. You saw
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  Speaker 1: earlier the season. If they score fifty one and they've
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  Speaker 1: done it before this year, you've got to score fifty two,
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  Speaker 1: as the case is, the same thing with the Rams,
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  Speaker 1: same things with the Patriots, same thing with the Saints.
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  Speaker 1: Not everyone's built to do this, by the way, but
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  Speaker 1: everyone seems me moving in that direct well, and there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of good quarterbacks. I mean, you don't think
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  Speaker 1: they can do this in Indie with all their cap room.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely innovator because they got their guy. They got the guy, right,
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  Speaker 1: They got the guy. So that's where we're at this morning.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about offense, and that is something that we've
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  Speaker 1: been talking about in Jacksonville. So let's get into big
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  Speaker 1: things because we kind of lead off in this direction. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk Jacks. Now. Big thing one is fight to win.
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  Speaker 1: So the past three games, when you've played the Eagles,
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  Speaker 1: the Colts, and the Steelers, you have had a chance
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  Speaker 1: to win that game and you cannot play a complete game,
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  Speaker 1: whether it was on the offense or the defense. So
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  Speaker 1: we asked Claire's Campbell in the locker room after the
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  Speaker 1: Steelers loss, what does this team need to do to
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  Speaker 1: fight to win a game? Oh? No, I mean it's
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  Speaker 1: the same game, you know. I mean, these guys in
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  Speaker 1: this locker room they believe, you know. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 1: why we played the way we play. Nobody's quitting, nobody's
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  Speaker 1: giving up, nobody's changing, and you know, the way who
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  Speaker 1: I am and who we are, you know it is
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  Speaker 1: not going to change. You know, we won't keep fighting,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and you know we don't know what the
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  Speaker 1: official holes, but you know we're gonna keep fighting. In
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  Speaker 1: one play at a time. So I'm gonna turn this
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  Speaker 1: a little bit on you. Um, and we talked about it.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a struggle. The last two weeks hasn't been easy. Right,
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  Speaker 1: there's an opportunity in Indianapolis and the offense shot Green
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  Speaker 1: fumbles the ball. Um. We all know what happened here
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday. Uh, you've got to, by the way, when
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  Speaker 1: it's up on the website a little later, go watch
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  Speaker 1: the film segment Jeff Loguman's film segment on All Access
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  Speaker 1: and it'll be posted here later this morning. Watch if
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  Speaker 1: you want to. You can play the offensive coordinator. You
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  Speaker 1: one because it's easy. But watch the lack of execution
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  Speaker 1: on the part of Blake Bortles on one key throw
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  Speaker 1: and on Leonard Fredette, whose vision was stunningly not there. Um,
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  Speaker 1: they're is a quick move to the outside on that
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  Speaker 1: third and five run when Bud Dupree just absolutely loses
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  Speaker 1: his footing and if he just steps around, he may score.
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  Speaker 1: But at least you win because he gets six yards.
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  Speaker 1: But he probably scores and he doesn't see it. So
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  Speaker 1: you can say, well, the offensive coordinator, no, no, that's
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  Speaker 1: not the lack of execution is was stunning on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Blake's throw is the exact same thing. It's like, throw
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  Speaker 1: the ball then, and it was right after bury Church's
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  Speaker 1: interception and you get a little momentum and maybe you
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  Speaker 1: put the game away in the first half. They got
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  Speaker 1: no points on that drive. So anyway, it that brings
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  Speaker 1: me to the fight. Everything looks so hard on offense.
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  Speaker 1: If you watch that game last night, did anything look
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  Speaker 1: hard for him? They were flinging it all over. They
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  Speaker 1: don't even look hard for the Rams. No, no, and
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  Speaker 1: here everything looks hard. Now, there's some reasons for that.
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  Speaker 1: You were playing with a backup center and a backup
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  Speaker 1: right guard. I care who you are. When you're playing
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  Speaker 1: with backups instead of your frontline guys, you're going to struggle.
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  Speaker 1: You're playing with your fourth left tackle, even if he's
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  Speaker 1: a talented guy that you think maybe you can develop. Still,
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  Speaker 1: you just got here right. You have no tight end.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone knows this. You don't have Mark Uisley, which is
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  Speaker 1: clearly was a much bigger deal than alternas of moving
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  Speaker 1: the chain. Right now, everything on offense is a fight. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's a struggle. It's not easy. And you see the
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  Speaker 1: difference when you watch a game like we did last night.
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  Speaker 1: You got execute you folks. You've got to go and
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  Speaker 1: watch that. You have to see it. Jeff outlines it.
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  Speaker 1: You have to see it to appreciate that. You can
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  Speaker 1: call any play you want, but if it isn't players
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  Speaker 1: are executed, that means something exactly. And you can look
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  Speaker 1: at the past three games Eagles, Colts and Steelers and
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  Speaker 1: you can blame a lack lack of execution on all
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  Speaker 1: of it. But I don't blame fans for blaming Nathaniel Hacket.
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  Speaker 1: It's easy. It's what fans do. It's what when we
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  Speaker 1: watch a game. They're part of the equation. You can't.
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  Speaker 1: You can't absolve them from blame. But everyone's calling for
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  Speaker 1: his head. Not news for you. Um, there are innovative
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  Speaker 1: offensive minds over there on that side of the hall
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  Speaker 1: that can do the kinds of things and would do
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  Speaker 1: the kinds of things the Kansas City and the Rams
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  Speaker 1: and the Saints do. They're just not built if they
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  Speaker 1: had the tools, they're just not built to do it.
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  Speaker 1: They built to run the ball and play to their defense.
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  Speaker 1: That's the decision that they made. When you take Leonard
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  Speaker 1: from net fourth overall that's the way that you play.
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  Speaker 1: But with the injuries and the lack of execution, everything
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  Speaker 1: on offense looks like a fight, which again plays into
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  Speaker 1: the fact that people are going to be screaming, we
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  Speaker 1: want Rams, Chiefs, Saints, Patriots, we want points. People are
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  Speaker 1: going to say, forget about the defense, give me just enough,
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  Speaker 1: which is what we saw from the Chiefs and the
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  Speaker 1: and the Saints and the Rams and the Patriots. Give
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  Speaker 1: it just enough, but give us the point. That's where
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  Speaker 1: this thing is. As we've been talking about basketball on
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  Speaker 1: grass for a while, but from down hill, it is
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  Speaker 1: freaking downhill now with the pros, with the passing game,
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  Speaker 1: with the desire for points. But I will ask, if
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  Speaker 1: you had the defense in the way it was performing
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  Speaker 1: last season, completely dominant, one of the best in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: do you think we'd still be talking about this if
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  Speaker 1: that was the staple of your team and they were
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  Speaker 1: successful and it was turnovers. Is the offense struggling to
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  Speaker 1: move the ball, struggling to score point? If you have
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  Speaker 1: the team you had last year, are you still talking
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  Speaker 1: about this? I think people are, yeah, because I think
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  Speaker 1: last year the Jaguars were in some games where they
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  Speaker 1: they leaned on that defense too heavily, and they want
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  Speaker 1: the offense to lead the way this game, and the
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  Speaker 1: salary cap corresponds to that. But the rules are designed
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  Speaker 1: offense to succeed, not defense. It's harder for the defense.
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  Speaker 1: Laias Campbell tackling a quarterback that's as big as he is, right,
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  Speaker 1: and he gets and he gets the fifteen yard penalty.
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  Speaker 1: D J. Hayden locked up in the end zone, he
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  Speaker 1: gets the penalty. The rules favor the offense. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: after watching last night's game, even with the defense performing
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  Speaker 1: at a high level, you gotta have an offense. The
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  Speaker 1: Rams defense created turnovers last night, but it was the
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  Speaker 1: Rams offense that's the story of the game and one
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  Speaker 1: the game, and I'm sure it's every single week that's
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  Speaker 1: the storyline. Yeah, you win with offense in this league now.
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  Speaker 1: And the curve chess changed dramatically. If it didn't a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, Ramp Saints, which was the feature
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  Speaker 1: game that weekended, sure as hell did. Last night absolutely
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  Speaker 1: lived up to everything we thought it would be. It
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  Speaker 1: is all about okay, all right, big thing to let's
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  Speaker 1: look at our opponent on Sunday. The future in Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: three and seven, a lot of young talent. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have Josh Allen back. They have said that he's going
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  Speaker 1: to start this game after missing four games. You have
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  Speaker 1: something that stood up to me. I was watching some
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  Speaker 1: of the highlights yesterday from the Jet skame when they
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  Speaker 1: want to get to the Jets. Robert Foster, their wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver at of Alabama, completely shined in that Jet skame
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  Speaker 1: and he wasn't really even much talked about the entire
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  Speaker 1: and look that quarterback, don't forget. Went into Minnesota and
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  Speaker 1: they pummeled and we were so shocked the team that
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  Speaker 1: we saw in August that was very, very talented and
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  Speaker 1: most people thought was a Super Bowl contender. There's but
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  Speaker 1: eight four million dollars on their quarterback and they have
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  Speaker 1: weapons on both sides of the ball right and embarrassed them.
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  Speaker 1: That quarterback is a terrific young talent. And they're they're
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  Speaker 1: thin on the offensive line right there. They're thin itt
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  Speaker 1: receiver right now. Lashawn McCoy can still run the ball.
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  Speaker 1: They've got some young talents on defense. Here's the thing
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  Speaker 1: they don't know with all the youth that they have
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  Speaker 1: there that December, when you're out of its kind of
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  Speaker 1: when guys going into reserve and when things get a
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  Speaker 1: little easier you kind of shut it down. Not them,
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna come out playing because they know it's all
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  Speaker 1: about next year and beyond. They've done a good job
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  Speaker 1: of accumulating draft choices up there. Now they've got to
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  Speaker 1: execute with them. But the future is right now. You're
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  Speaker 1: seeing the future of their team, and we'll see it
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday. That doesn't mean that the future is now
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  Speaker 1: in terms of success because they've got holes all over
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  Speaker 1: their roster. But it's not going to be all right. Well,
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  Speaker 1: this is where the Jaguars. It absolutely ends here because
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo is not any good. No, No, the last time
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: they played, they looked like they were slinging the ball
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: over the field. They're getting creative to with their play calling.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: They threw a touchdown pass to their left tackle. Yeah,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: they have, they have. Look, they have nothing to lose.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: They've got a young, young team they're building for next
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: year and beyond. They're gonna let it all hang out.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: They're getting creative and you definitely can't overlook this opponent.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Buckle up, it's going to be a fight. We'll talk
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: to Chris Brown. By the way, the Bills Insider from
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot Com coming up in our next segment.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: For now, though, let's let's talk about the future in Jackson. Yes,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: the big thing three now is the future in Jackson.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: So we just talked about how offense scoring points. We
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: know that change is probably coming in the off season,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: but what does that mean for right now for the
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: next six weeks? Will this team be engaged? Will they
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: still be fighting? I think yes, when you heard Clay's
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: campbell in the locker room, this team still has fighting them. Yeah,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: there's no doubt that this team, despite and you heard
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Clay's talk about no one knows what the future holes.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: And I think what he was talking about in context
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: was the next six weeks and who ends and who loses,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: and he's still talking about belief. But I think there's
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: a greater dimension to what he's saying, and that is
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: is everyone understands that this team is going to retool
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: in the off season. They have to write. Now, if
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: you're winning, you can maybe stretch some things and push
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: them out and keep the team together in the core together.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: But at this point, at three and seven, there's no
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: reason to have that discussion. You have to figure out
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: how to get competitive and how to score points in
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: a hurry. And everyone knows that Calais is in his thirties,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: he's got a big cap number. Next year, he doesn't
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: know where he's gonna play. It's hard to say. So
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: the interesting part will be how does this team finish? Right,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: They were a ball of fire last year the story
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: of the league, much like the Chiefs have become this year.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Do you finish strong and have people respect your effort,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: or do you bump along and have people say blow
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: it up and or retool it? Or you choose your
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: adjective however you want. But there are players in this
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: locker room who want to be a part of what's
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: going on. You earn that over the next six weeks.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: You show the coaching staff. You showed Dave Coldwell and
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin what kind of player you are by how
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: you prepare and how you play against Buffalo or Miami
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: or any of those games. Whether they have meaning or
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: not in terms of the playoffs, they have meaning in
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: terms of the future here in Jacksonville. Right, you made
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: a statement yesterday that I thought was really interesting. If
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I'm a player in the locker room right now, and
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I'm putting a tape and I'm putting making my resume
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: together for who knows where I'm going next year. The
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: first thing they're looking at is this Buffalo game and
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: if they're going to quit, and this next six weeks
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: is crucial for the future of your career if you
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: go up there and lay an egg when somebody and
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: there are guys on this roster who know that they're
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: probably going to be looking for a job elsewhere next year.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: The first tape I would put on if I'm a
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: general manager is the Buffalo game. I'd find that one
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: game that is just an absolute underscore, and I would
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: scour the tape. It is this player playing hard right,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: understanding the context to the season, the opponent that you've got.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Are you playing hard? This game is one of those
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: games that people run the league circle and they go
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: to it when it's time to evaluate talent, evaluate players.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: And it's not a selfish approach at all. If you're
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: just thinking these next six weeks. If I was a player,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I would be thinking of myself at times, because you
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: never know where you're going to be next year. All right,
• 19:19
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• 21:32
  Speaker 1: how are you this morning? Doing all right? Good morning,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Good morning, Happy Thanksgiving week. Obviously this is a big
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: week in the NFL. You guys got a little winter
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: weather coming up. Are we gonna see it on Sunday?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. It's gonna we're getting that arctic
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: blast here in the middle of the week. It's gonna
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: be a very cold Thanksgiving up here. I think it's
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: supposed to be about a high a twenty two. But
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: they're saying it's gonna warm up towards the weekend. Might
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: get a little pre sip, but forecast I have about
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: eight agree, so not too bad. Dial it up, baby.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: That's December, whether late November, December weather in the NFL.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Ashleyan is from South Florida. She's not necessarily sure of
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: what to wear on the sideline. I'm very glad that
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: that's considered warm weather there. We want. Yeah, Well, people
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: in Buffalo love that stuff. Hey, Chris, we've been talking
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: about your football team here, Um, tell us, what's the
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: difference been when you have played extremely well this year,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: going to Minnesota and surprising everyone with that win over
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: that team, what you did two weeks ago against the
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Jets with the big thirty eight point explosion. What's been
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the difference in those two games compared to the rest
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: of your season. Well, I think the Minnesota game was
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: simply a function of getting some early turnovers deep in
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Minnesota territory, which really helped out the offense. They had
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of short fields to work with, and really
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: they just kind of caught in Minnesota off guard at
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: the start of the game and before they knew it,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: it was like twenty four nothing and you know, by
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the time Minnesota woke up, the game was already over. Um.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: So they just took advantage of the circumstances and that
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: one force and early turnovers and cashing in on them.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: And then last week, you know, as well as the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Bills played, you know, Jets underestimated Buffalo. I mean the
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Bills came in as a team that hadn't scored you know,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: double digit points for four straight games. I mean, their
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: offense was abysmal. Uh in every way, shape and form,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: and they were starting the quarterback who had been here
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: all of ten days. So I think the Jets come
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: into that one thinking they had it in the bag
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: before the opening kickoff even happened. Uh. And the Bills,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to their credit, you know, came to play. And you know,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I think as well as the Bills executed, you know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I think the Jets kind of laid down quite frankly.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: It was certainly not a good reflection on Jets head
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: coach Todd Bowls. Uh. And they just they just steamrolled them.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: And the Jets never woke up in that game. So
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I think it was more circumstanced than anything else, because
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: this is a Bill's offense that is still very much
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: trying to find itself with six games to play. And
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: obviously it's easier to find yourself when you've got your
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: first round draft choice, your quarterback of the future out there.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: What what have you seen from him, whether it's training
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: camp or the preseason, what what did you see from
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: him that made you say, Okay, this is the guy? Well,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if people were convinced at
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: the outset of the season that he was ready to
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: go as a matter of fact, I don't think the
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Bill's coaching staff wanted him on the field at the
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: start of the season. That's why Nathan Peterman was named
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the starter. Uh and and pet And you know, people
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: are like, well, you know, I know people on the
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: outside are like, well, how could they have thought that
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: guy was going to be the answer? But in the
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: preseason Nathan Peterman was on fire. I mean he was
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: completing over of his passes through preseason games, three touchdowns,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: one pick, uh and really looked like he had it together.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: For whatever reason, in his two seasons with the Bills
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: now released and no longer on the roster, he just
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: could not translate his game from practice in preseason games
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: to the regular season. And unfortunately, the Bills put all
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the eggs in that basket. Uh. You know, they traded
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: a J. McCarron, who was the veteran guy that they
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: had brought in to be part of that three way competition,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: and very very quickly, the Bills were in a position
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: where they had two very young quarterbacks with very little experience,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and their best option was to go with Josh Allen.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: After that Week one lost in Baltimore by account of
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: forty seven to three. So I think the plan for
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen obviously got accelerated because I don't think they
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: really wanted to get him on the field maybe until
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: this point in the season, you know, back half of
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the schedule. If things were going wrong or if he
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: was making progress in practice that you know, deemed him
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to be the best option, he would be in the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: starting lineup, So that the whole thing got accelerated. Uh.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: He was kind of learning on the fly, you know,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: making typical rookie mistakes. He was showing signs those improvement
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: in that Houston game in Week six, unfortunately against the
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: elbow injury, and he's missed the last four games, but
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: all signs you're pointing to him starting now. The question
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: here is what what is realistic to expect from a
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: rookie quarterback who's been off the game field for five weeks,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: especially against the defense the caliber of Jacksonville. It's not
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: an easy road a hole here. So it's gonna be
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: very interesting to see if he can a pick up
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: where he left off or be you know, suffer through
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: some of the same struggles he did when he was
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: first on the field. Chris watching some highlights from the
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Bills Jets game the other day. You saw someone like
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Robert Foster standout from Alabama and there was a touchdown
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: pass to the left tackle Dion Dawkins. What is this
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: offense is stable right now? And what can the Jaguars
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: defense expect from them? Yeah? Like I said, I think
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: the offense has been a season long struggle. It's due
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: in part to the fact that they really don't have
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of weapons, proven weapons that is. And
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: in the last two weeks the coaching staff has made
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: a concern effort to add speed to their receiving corps. UH.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: That came in the form of Robert Foster, who you mentioned,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: undrafted Brookie at Alabama who can simply flat out fly uh.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: And they used him early in the game against the Jets.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I mean first play of the game, they have a
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: heavy personnel run formation look and Matt Barkley Chucks had
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: forty eight yards down the field down the right sideline
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: to Robert Foster. One play later, Lashawn McCoy is taking
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: a twenty yard run twenty eight yard run into the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: end zone for a touchdown. UM. They also claimed Isaiah
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Mackenzie off waivers from Denver. UH. That that week they
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: played the Jets, a return specialist by nature, but another
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: guy who can just flat out fly. He was on
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the field for fifteen plays between offense and special teams.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: He had one total yards for this team. UH. And
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: then this week or the week during the bye, they
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: picked up Deonte Thompson off UH. You know, who had
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: been cut by the Cowboys, and he was a guy
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: who had been here last season. Only a twenty seven
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: catches last year guys, but seven of them went for
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: twenty yards or more. So it's very clear what the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Bills felt their offense was lacking latout beat, and they've
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: added that because separation has been a consistent problem for
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: the playmakers or the so called playmakers on offense. They
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: just simply cannot get separations. So I think the addition
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: of speed is trying to address that number one and
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: number two UH, to give at least a threat of
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: beating defenses over the top to try to open up
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: a run game. There really hasn't found too many holes
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: for Lehn McCoy because teams have been able to crowd
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the box. You really only had to defend twenty yards
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: of the field from the line of scrimmage because there
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: wasn't anybody that could get behind defenses. So you know,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: imposing defense is like, all right, well we'll defend each
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: twenty yards because you don't have anybody's gonna beat us
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: over the top. We'll crowd the box and shut down
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: your best player, who's Leshan McCoy. And that's why the
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: offense has been a series. He's a fit and stars
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: this year. How about the young guys on defense? Everyone
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: knows about Tredavious White to folks down here. Watched him
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: at L s U and he had a tremendous rookie season.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: How about him and Tremaine Edmonds as cornerstones of what
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: you're doing on the defensive side. How are the young
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: guys contributing to that side of the ball, Chris, Yeah,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I mean Tremaine Edmonds for a twenty year old rookie
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: middle linebacker, was given an awful lot to digest off
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: his plate running this defense, making the calls, and he
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: was fooled early in the season weeks one, two, three,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: he was making uh, he was getting fooled by you
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: know formation looks that opposing offensive coordinators were throwing at him,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: knowing he was young doing he was inexperienced, and he
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: was caught out of position at times or caught over
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: pursuing at times. But now that we've reached the second
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: half of his rookie season, uh, he is he is
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: locked in. I mean, he's a very intelligent player and
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: he's learning. He learned some of those lessons the hard
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: way the first half of the season. But uh, this
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: is a kid who's only scratching the surface of what
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: he can become. Uh. Luke Keikley, the Carolina mental linebacker,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: when he saw him in person in the preseason, called
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: him a freakazoid. I mean he is six ft five,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: he's got really really long arms, long legs. He runs
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: a four or five and he hasn't even filled out yet, uh,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: because he's only going about two forty, but he runs
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: like a deer. Uh. The Bills finally have a cover answer,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: uh for a guy like Rob Gronkowski in their division. Uh.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: You know, those big tight end mismatches are mismatches no
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: more because he and fellow linebacker Matt Milano, who's had
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: a magnificent second season here for the Bills, just a playmaker.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Every week he's coming up. He's always around the ball,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: either forcing a fumble, getting to pick get a pick
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: against the Jet in their last game. Uh. Those two
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: linebackers really are gonna be the cornerstones of the Nickel
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: package for this team, which they're in a good six
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: five of the time. Big picture, Um, the folks up
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: in Buffalo have been very aggressive in remaking the roster
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: in the image they wanted it, from trading Marcel Darius
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: to all of the moves they have made, you know,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: both setting themselves up for the future and giving themselves
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: draft choices. Folks on board, I mean Bills fans on
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: board satiated a bit with the playoff appearance last year
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and understanding what's what's happening inside that building. Yeah, I mean,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I think if there was anything that that hurt management,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: it was the fact that they did make the playoffs
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: last year. I think because for the casual fan that
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: naturally raises expectations for the following year. I think the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: management and the coaching staff knew by making a change
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: at quarterback moving on from Tyrod Taylor and you know,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: bringing in a youth movement there in the former Jeff
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen chiefly. Uh. And then the unexpected losses of
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Richie Incognito UH and Eric Wood, who had an unexpected
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: retirement due to a career ending neck injury. I think
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: they felt this was going to be a year where
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: they maybe would take a step back. I don't think
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: they anticipated it would be a step back to to
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: the degree that we've seen this year. UM. But when
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: it went sideways, particularly at quarterback early in the season,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I think that did anger a lot of fans. But
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, within the building, they felt, okay, look,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: you know, under Sean McDermott, year two maybe more like
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: year one, because we essentially had year two in year
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: one going nine and seven and qualifying for the playoffs.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: This year, with the way they had to remake the
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: roster again, I think they almost looked at this year
• 32:43
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• 32:46
  Speaker 1: have a boatload of cap space to make use of,
• 32:49
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  Speaker 1: I think they really feel like the thing will reach
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: critical maths in year three, hopefully. I think most of
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: the fans knew this may not be as good a
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: year as last year was, but I think because it
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: went sideways early, UH, I wouldn't say I would say
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: it's probably a fifty. The fans understand the long range
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: view of creating a perennial contender like what the heck camp.
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  Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Buffalo Bills insider from Buffalo Bills dot Com,
• 33:23
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  Speaker 1: forty eight degrees Chris, thanks so much. Yeah, safe travels, guys, yep,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: have a great Thanksgiving and we are done with that segment. Um,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: how about a quick look at Ashlands analysis and then
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: we will take a break and come back with the
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: pick a deep breath Tuesday. Sure Ashlands analysis. This week,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: it's looking back at the FC Championship game last year
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: and the similarities between the FC Championship Game and the
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. We were watching some of the highlights and
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: it's almost disappointing because you would think that the Jaguars
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: look back at that game and learn their lesson that
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: they took their foot off the pedal, no questions asked,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: had the lead with a few minutes left to go,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and you let Tom Brady beat you, and you let
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: the Patriots come back. And I saw so many similarities
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: against the Steelers where you took your foot off the
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: pedal and you played too conservative. When you're playing a
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  Speaker 1: team like the Patriots or like the Steelers and you
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  Speaker 1: have Big Ben at quarterback and you have Tom Brady
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: at quarterback, you gotta score more points. You gotta be aggressive.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: And I know at times this Jaguars offense isn't aggressive
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: because of the lack of weapons, But there's times when
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: you have to play aggressive. And this was one of
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: those games. Well and and look, most people are agreeing
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: with you right now. The truth also is that you
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: don't have a couple of key places that they feel
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: they need to be aggressive, like that big guy there
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: eighty nine. I mean, I think looking back, letting him
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: walk was a mistake because he's such a dominant blocker
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: at the point of attack. He helps you be able
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: to seal Bud Dupree and Leonard gets to the outside.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Perhaps um the interior problems with with Tyler, Shatley and
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: read there um not that it was all on them,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: but they clearly didn't feel comfortable in being aggressive. I
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: just think here's the right If you have Ben Roethlisberger
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: and you're down sixteen to nothing, that's no problem, that's
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: not that's not too many points for you to overcome.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: But if you're up sixteen nothing and you have the
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: offense that you have, the quarterback that you have, it's
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: not enough points you need. You can't be comfortable with
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: that you need more because that's just not the way
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: this offense is played over time, throwing the balls five
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: times in the second half, for example. And we know
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: that Blake Bortles has has had struggles. We know about
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: the wide receivers. But take your shot, you know, score
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: more points well, regardless of what you have. Understand exactly
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: why you say it, and it's good analysis. I will
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: say this. Go watch and you have the third and
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: five play that Jeff Loghaman used in the film room
• 35:45
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• 35:47
  Speaker 1: little later this morning, and you will watch his bud
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Dupree loses his balance and instead of bumping it to
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the outside where it was wide open for Leonard to score.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: But we'll take six yards right, take for six yards
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: in the game over he unexplainably runs righted Andrew Norwell
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: and misses the hope and hole. That's not on the
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator at all. That's just not there. It is
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: right there. That's not on the coordinator. And that's what's frustrating,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: is because you've seen Leonard for Nett make that move
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: before and score touchdowns and get first dounds and be explosive.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: And you've seen Blake Bortles throw a bomb to Dante
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Moncrief against the Colts. You've seen it happen right there
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: if he just bounces it back to the outside, which
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: we will. We've seen Hi Jame's direction before. He's done
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: it right there. Instead of going up, go out, first down,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: game over. You don't even need to score, Ryan go
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: down at midfield, but they don't get the chance. That's
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: unexplainable and you can't blame that on the coordinator. That
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: is on execution. Okay, Ashlann's analysis done, We'll take a break,
• 36:50
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  Speaker 1: and we ran a little over there. We don't have
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  Speaker 1: haven't been positive lately. We've had a lot of deep
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  Speaker 1: do it. That'll do it. And I'm telling you last
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• 39:24
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  Speaker 1: up here it comes, by the way, it won't just
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• 39:32
  Speaker 1: what do we have to have to have that kind
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• 39:36
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• 39:38
  Speaker 1: what you wish for. Just me personally, I think that
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: might get a little old when it's just about but
• 39:43
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• 39:46
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• 39:50
  Speaker 1: The Jaguars deserved this loss. Talking about the Steelers for
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: sticking with Bardles this offseason, just a terrible decision. Well,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: there's probably a lot of people who are agreeing with
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: him right now, based on the outcome of Sunday's game
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: and based on again fifty four. Um, if we haven't
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: said this enough for you, say it again. Last year
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: they played at the defense. They drafted the running back
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: because they wanted to win. They needed to win after
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: so many years of utility, and this was an easy
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: way for them to be able to create winning. Hasn't
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: worked out this year. Last year, everything went well right.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: The defense scord seven touchdowns, thirty three takeaways, fifty three sacks. Um,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: it just rost us healthy. Yeah, this year doesn't go
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: that way. The injuries crippled the offense. The defense doesn't
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: come through with the same because they're not playing with
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: the lead. The formula just didn't work this year. Um.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Terrible decision. Yes, six straight losses. You can understand why
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: people are saying that at this point, Um, and with
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: black again, everything has to be kept through the filter
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: of last night's game. It's just going to give more
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: reason for people to attack the decisions that were made
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: in the past. But I understood why they made the
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: decision when they made the decision, and it's a deal
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: that they can move on from. It's going to hurt
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit in terms of cap It may cost
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: you a player here or there on the defense that
• 41:17
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• 41:19
  Speaker 1: some of that money. It'll have an impact, Um, but
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: you can move on from that decision. And I don't
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do, but it seems clear that
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: they're going to have to start looking at how they
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: can get an offense that scores points right regardless of
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: who it is. But I think it's to take a
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: deep breath Tuesday, because We've talked about it all show
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: the lack of execution on the entire unit of the offense.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: You can't pinpoint this on one guy. You can't pinpoint
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: it on Blake Bortles. It can't pinpoint it on Nathaniel Hackett.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: It's a lack of execution on the entire unit, all
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: across the breath. Jeff, what's his name? All right, let's
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: go to this Twitter handle. I am Satan, not a
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: positive man. If you can't tell from his Twitter handle,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Joe says, no, it's not. He can't be satan. There's
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: only one six. Thanks Joe, Thank there. All right, let's
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: read this positive. Doug calls it too close to the vest.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett isn't creative enough. Blake must be traded or cut.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Jalen now has leveraged. After that game, the Jaguars must
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: fire Doug Nathaniel and cut or trade Blake for six
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: or seventh round pick. David cod will also must go
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: his decision to trade. Dante thumbs down the time stamp
• 42:34
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• 42:39
  Speaker 1: watching his he is watching his team give the game
• 42:44
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• 42:47
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• 42:51
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• 42:53
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• 42:56
  Speaker 1: is not about Doug and Nathaniel. Yes, I get you'd
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: like to see some more creativity. You'd like to see
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: him take a shot on third down to five. I
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: get it. But third and five should have worked. It
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: was supposed to, could have worked. And you know, Blake
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: should have thrown the slant to Donte Moncrief in the
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: second quarter. There's lots of opportunity for blame to go around.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Um but fire, burn destroy, Yeah, exactly, kill kill kill,
• 43:23
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• 43:26
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• 43:30
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• 43:40
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• 43:43
  Speaker 1: and then they win the Super Bowl. A little bit
• 43:46
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• 43:49
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• 43:55
  Speaker 1: four touchdowns, twelve interceptions. That might be reaching just gonna
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: leave it a down. It might be a fairy tale.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: We like the optimism. Yeah, we kind of go with
• 44:04
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• 44:06
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• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Here's agree to disagree. Number one, find an offensive coordinated
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: that trust both aspects of the offense. It's not all
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Blake's fault, and that's evident when looking at the play calling,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: recent defensive play and O line play. Um, totally agree
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: with the second half. We've been talking about that. Uh.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: You know, Blake bears some culpability here, but you know
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: he had him in a position to win the ball
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: game in Indianapolis, right, I mean through the touchdowns, had
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: the hundred nineteen or hundred and twelve point seven passer rating,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: whatever it was, played a good game, six completion in Indie.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: It's not all Blake's fault. The offensive line is pieced
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: together with the injuries. Um, I'll say this. You know
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: talking to Nate Hackett, and we talked to him every week.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Trust me, he wants to throw the ball and run
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: the ball. Every offensive coordinator wants balanced. When he doesn't
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: trust it, it's because he can't, right, he can't. And
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: then every single week you have people saying, run the ball,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: run the ball, that's what's working. And then when they
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: run the ball, do they want Blake to throw the ball.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: How do you trust when the quarterback has the slant
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: that you will see in the film room segment and
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: he hits his backstep and there's Dante Moncreep wide open,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the safety is up. It's an easy he doesn't take
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: it right. How do you trust when he's running around
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: and he gets sacked instead? How do you trust when
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: you know the guys up front aren't getting the protection down?
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: How you trust any of that? You just can't. It's
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: there's so many aspects into it, right, it's not working. Again,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: it's not the offensive coordinator. Now, do you wanted to
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: be more creative? Okay, yeah, challenge him to be more creative.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Guarantee you he wants to be. Remember that this preseason
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: we saw what he wanted to do with the two
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: backs set with for Nett and Corey Grant. Well, he
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: hadn't had for most of the season. He didn't have
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: crant get into the tight end. It's not like you
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: can just say, poof, we're going to be creative, We're
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: gonna run this triple option. You gotta have the person,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: you need elements, you know, you just chicken in the egg.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: You gotta have. It's just that's the way it. So
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: we disagree with that thought. Okay, Next, I believe it's
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: overdue that we move on from Blake portals. I believe
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: that that is going to be a very popular theme
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: after the Patrick Mahomes Sjared Golf Show, and I believe
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: after watching him not play well against the Steelers, fans
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: are calling for his head. You are going fair, but
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: then you look back at the Patriots, look back if
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: he has another game like that all of a sudden,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: and you know, early in the season, it was easy
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: to defend because that three games stretch here against the Colts,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks, and the Texans last year where he was
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: played right and in the playoffs got you to the
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: a f C Championship game. For sure. The question here
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: is what kind of offense are you going to play
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: going forward? How are you going to become one of
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: these high octane offenses, because that's the way that the
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: league is built, that's what the rules are geared towards.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Can you do it with him? If you don't think
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: you can, then it's time to find someone you that
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: you absolutely can't. I gonna tell you what. You don't
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: think they can run that offense with Andrew Luck in Indianapolis,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: you bet that they can. They can go high octane
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: with that. There are a number of quarterbacks Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 1: They can retool some things and you can have every
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  Speaker 1: team in the league. Now. Of course, it's tougher in
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  Speaker 1: the cold weather in Green Bay. Green Bay has a
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  Speaker 1: specific way that they play because they play in cold weather,
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  Speaker 1: the Baker Bayfield. There's all sorts of young quarterback. This
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  Speaker 1: league is set up with young quarterbacks to sling the
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  Speaker 1: ball all over the place and play that explosive style
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  Speaker 1: of offense. It's what fans want, it's what the rules dictate. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But this offseason you have to decide for this team
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  Speaker 1: and decide what their plan is, where they're going forward,
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  Speaker 1: how they're going to retool things. Okay, up next, we
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  Speaker 1: have five of these, by the way, with the bad
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  Speaker 1: offensive line playing. Would you rather have a quarterback who
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  Speaker 1: occasionally runs or one who could throw it quickly and accurately?
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  Speaker 1: One of those we have seen for five years and
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  Speaker 1: one we've seen for one half. Um, you want both,
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  Speaker 1: want both. Patrick Mahomes does both, right, Um, and I
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  Speaker 1: just set us up to get them. Well, they could
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  Speaker 1: have Patrick Mahomes, yes, yes, they could have. Um. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: But but the throw it quick and accurately part, that's
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  Speaker 1: the part. I mean, that's the way the rules are
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  Speaker 1: set up. Now, the quick passing game. You saw Van
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  Speaker 1: Roethlisberger get the ball out fast, right. Okay, But if
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: you're talking about Blake Bortles, Blake Bortles in his rushing attempts,
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  Speaker 1: that's what makes him successful. That's one of his tools.
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  Speaker 1: And so if you're talking about Blake Bortles, I want that.
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  Speaker 1: That's this dial of play right. It all goes back
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  Speaker 1: to where you're going with the offense. Uh number four.
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  Speaker 1: Agree to disagree here as we wrap up a Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: Morning show. The Jags have lost six in a row.
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  Speaker 1: Now they have to win six in a row to
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  Speaker 1: hope somehow to grab that sixth and final playoff spot
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  Speaker 1: crazy as it sounds, I think it can be done.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I don't even if you win six in a row,
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  Speaker 1: the tiebreakers come in now because of the a f
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  Speaker 1: C losses. Yeah, I don't. That shouldn't be the focus.
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  Speaker 1: Just win just okay, finally, last shot here today, Man
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  Speaker 1: Jack can play better than this. Some say Blake, some
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: say defense play calling a center. Losing six in a row,
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  Speaker 1: we can do better. Ding ding ding dingding ner. They
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  Speaker 1: can play better. They have talent to play better. You've
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: got to hit the whole. You've got to find the receiver.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to make the tackle on the goal line. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: they can play better. All right, there's agreed to disagree,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a Tuesday show. Thanks to Chris Brown for
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  Speaker 1: joining us, and thanks to you for watching for Ashland
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  Speaker 1: and Joe Tomorrow, John joins us will help the ozone
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  Speaker 1: snap shot. You like Tuesday because you get to talent more.
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  Speaker 1: Uh well, hey Joe, well you know what. That's fine,
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  Speaker 1: can't wait Wednesday, just ahead of us folks, don't forget
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  Speaker 1: you want to watch All Access when it posts on
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  Speaker 1: the website a little bit later today. Have a great
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  Speaker 1: one everyone,