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Steve Price | August 9 · Steve Price

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  Speaker 1: Live. This is Steve Price.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Friday Night's Steve Price. Indeed with you coming
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  Speaker 2: up tonight on the program. As former PM Paul Keating
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  Speaker 2: again makes a goose of himself over our alliance with
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  Speaker 2: the United States, we look at a special report that
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  Speaker 2: urges the federal government and Defense to start thinking in
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  Speaker 2: real time, not ten year, blocks to defend Australia, including
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  Speaker 2: ramping up the number of US marines based here in
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  Speaker 2: the North of Australia. Will have details on that shortly.
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  Speaker 2: And what a week for Australian's sport, the most successful
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  Speaker 2: Olympic Games ever. Imagine saying that a national record gold
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  Speaker 2: medal hall so far and four gold in one day,
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  Speaker 2: and there's more to come. I'll take you to Paris
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  Speaker 2: as we head toward what I'm sure is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a spectacular closing ceremony early on Monday morning. And
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  Speaker 2: the great work from home debate that's exploded this week
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  Speaker 2: whiles Chris Premier Chris Men's deserves a pat.
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  Speaker 1: On the back.
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  Speaker 2: He was tougher and correct, demanding that public servants get
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  Speaker 2: back to the office immediately.
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  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the Labour.
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  Speaker 2: Governments in Victoria and Queensland say nothing to see here.
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  Speaker 2: I'll talk to Friday regular Campbell Newman about that shortly.
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  Speaker 2: But first look, I've written and spent a lot of
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  Speaker 2: time on sky talking about something I've never witnessed before
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  Speaker 2: in the country. I grew up in the explosion in
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  Speaker 2: juvenile crime across our major cities right around the nation.
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  Speaker 2: And when I took crime, I'm talking about violence being
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  Speaker 2: committed by preteens at its worse, featuring weapons. Just think
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  Speaker 2: about that for a second. Ten year olds, eleven twelve
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  Speaker 2: year olds stealing cars, leading police on dangerous street pursuits,
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  Speaker 2: and when cornered, abandoning those stolen cars and fleeing on foot.
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  Speaker 2: Police then discover strewn around the vehicles taken from terrified
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  Speaker 2: residents in the middle of the night, from stolen keys
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  Speaker 2: grabbed in violent home invasions. What a police find They
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  Speaker 2: find weapons. They find knives, axes, machetes, open blade weapons
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  Speaker 2: that can kill and injure people, innocent people. Now, let
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  Speaker 2: me repeat ten eleven twelve year olds out in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the night. If you think I'm exaggerating, let
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  Speaker 2: me show you one very recent example from vision released
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  Speaker 2: today by Victoria Police in a bid to find a
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  Speaker 2: couple of these violent gangs. Now, ironically, the incident that
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  Speaker 2: we're about to see was from back in February. It
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  Speaker 2: occurred on of all things, Lovely Street in suburban Folkner
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  Speaker 2: in Melbourne, not in the middle of the night, but
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  Speaker 2: during the afternoon peak hour, with young men of various ages.
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  Speaker 1: Have a look at this.
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  Speaker 2: Now, that a shocking as it is, and we had
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  Speaker 2: to beat the language obviously, and it goes on for
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  Speaker 2: some minutes. Probably doesn't give you the full story, so
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  Speaker 2: let me do that for you.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what happened.
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  Speaker 2: The two vehicles involved both stolen, one a whiteness and skyline,
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  Speaker 2: the other as you saw in the vision a black
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  Speaker 2: Sherry suv. First shows the suv slowly driving down Lovely
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  Speaker 2: Street with multiple passengers hanging out the windows screaming obscenities
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  Speaker 2: that we've beeped out. The nistant skyline is following behind.
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  Speaker 2: In secondary vision, the skyline is ram from behind by
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  Speaker 2: a third vehicle. And this is where I lose it
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  Speaker 2: over what's become our suburban streets.
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  Speaker 1: What happened next?
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  Speaker 2: Four occupants from the holdencar used to ram the skyline
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  Speaker 2: get out, armed with baseball bats and a firearm. Remember
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  Speaker 2: this is five point fifteen pm in February, broad daylight,
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  Speaker 2: baseball bats and a gun. The man arm with the
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  Speaker 2: gun has a shirt wound around his face to disguise
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  Speaker 2: him himself. He walks up to the skyline window and
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  Speaker 2: fires a shot into the vehicle. Now it ended, as
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  Speaker 2: many of these violent confrontations do. Both vehicles flared, one
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  Speaker 2: collided with an innocent motorist on a freeway on ramp,
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  Speaker 2: and all of the offenders fled on foot. Happened six
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  Speaker 2: months ago, No arrests, no convictions, no jail time, guns,
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  Speaker 2: stolen cars, violence, It's happening daily, and youth crime stats
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  Speaker 2: show it is out of control. And what do we
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  Speaker 2: hear from our politicians right around the country merely mouthed words, platitudes,
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  Speaker 2: bowing to the Greens, concentrating on social policy and not
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  Speaker 2: law and order.
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  Speaker 1: And people are sick of it.
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  Speaker 2: Never in my life have I had so many people
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  Speaker 2: come up to me and say they are actually afraid
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  Speaker 2: at night in their own homes. Suburban properties are now
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  Speaker 2: festooned with security cameras and lights, and in the worst
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  Speaker 2: affected places, they've even resorted to privately funding security guards
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  Speaker 2: to p their streets incumbent governments hate talking about law
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  Speaker 2: and order. All state governments know they have underfunded their
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  Speaker 2: police forces. The cops are badly paid and from what
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  Speaker 2: I see, almost invisible on our streets and even our highways.
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  Speaker 2: Aside from revenue raising operation of speed cameras, the police
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  Speaker 2: seem to spend more time inside police stations doing paperwork
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  Speaker 2: than actually walking, being seen and hopefully being respected by anybody.
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  Speaker 2: It's a national problem as important as any State governments
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  Speaker 2: need to get on top of street crime. They need
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  Speaker 2: to get answers as to why ten and eleven year
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  Speaker 2: olds are roaming the streets at night, doesn't matter if
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  Speaker 2: it's Allas Springs or Darwin or Melbourne or somewhere in Queensland,
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  Speaker 2: and they need to ask where are their parents? Time
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  Speaker 2: to stop talking, It's time to start actually acting.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: As I mentioned at the top of the show, Paul
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  Speaker 2: Keating as he likes to do, is lobb to hand
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  Speaker 2: grenade into the national defense debate, repeating his tired old
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  Speaker 2: anti American rhetoric, even suggesting Australian teenage soldiers could die
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  Speaker 2: on the beaches of Taiwan in a conflict with China.
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  Speaker 3: It'll get resolved socially and politically over time, that's what
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  Speaker 3: will happen there. But the thing is, it's not how matter.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, does anyone want their kids to be shot
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  Speaker 3: to death on a sandy beach and Taiwan? Australian kids
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  Speaker 3: shot to death on a sandy beach and Taiwan. This
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  Speaker 3: is the outcome of such a policy.
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  Speaker 1: How ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: Now, no one thinks that's going to happen, apart from
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  Speaker 2: Paul Keating, But of course his favorite outlet, the ABC'SAR
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  Speaker 2: was happy to give him oxygen, give him a platform.
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  Speaker 2: His comments come, by the way, during a week when
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  Speaker 2: ASIO raised the terror threat level in Australia from possible
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  Speaker 2: to probable. But for all the talk and money thrown around,
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  Speaker 2: is there an actual plan a strategy in place to
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  Speaker 2: keep Australians safe from foreign invasion or from terror at home?
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  Speaker 2: New research for the Institute of Public Affairs and Strategic
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  Speaker 2: Analysis Australia, who we talked on a regular basis, says no,
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  Speaker 2: arguing that the country is dramatically underprepared for the possibility
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  Speaker 2: of conflict in our region. For more, I'm joined by
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  Speaker 2: IPA Executive Director Scott Hargrove. Scott thanks for your time. Look,
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  Speaker 2: it was announced this week that more US fighter and
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  Speaker 2: surveillance aircraft are going to operate from the top end
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  Speaker 2: more Marines in order to deter Chinese aggression. What did
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  Speaker 2: you make there of the keeping assessment of our alliance
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  Speaker 2: with the Americans.
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  Speaker 4: Well, as you said, it's terrible if that was, it's
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  Speaker 4: not so much a hand grenade as a wet letters.
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  Speaker 4: But what we've said in this report along with Peter
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  Speaker 4: Jennings and Michael Schubridge youll frequent.
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  Speaker 5: Guests, is the time for action is now.
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  Speaker 4: There's a realization that we don't have as we used
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  Speaker 4: to have, say ten years warning of conflict in our
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  Speaker 4: region planning whereas and doesn't exist. It's actually about the
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  Speaker 4: next term of government is the time frame in which
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  Speaker 4: both major parties in Canberra need to take action in
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  Speaker 4: a dramatic way. We've got some recommendations because we've got
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  Speaker 4: this absolute frozen sort of decision making process and people
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  Speaker 4: like Paul Keating need to be called out for nonsensical
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  Speaker 4: things like that.
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  Speaker 5: In that interview.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, I should mention that he said that
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  Speaker 4: Taiwan was to China what Tasmania is to Australia. That
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  Speaker 4: is just completely astorical nonsense, and it just happens to
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  Speaker 4: be a CCP talking point. This idea that Australia would
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  Speaker 4: be uninvolved in any conflict in the Asia Pacific region
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  Speaker 4: involving Taiwan ignores the relationships with not just Taiwan, but
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  Speaker 4: with our trading partners like Japan and South Korea, not
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  Speaker 4: to mention, of course, the US Alliance.
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  Speaker 5: So there's many, many things we.
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  Speaker 4: Can say about Paul Keating's approach, but it must be
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  Speaker 4: resolutely rejected by the Australian people if we're to start
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  Speaker 4: taking action.
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  Speaker 1: Now, yeah, we.
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  Speaker 2: Won't dwell on him, Scott because he is in irrelevance.
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  Speaker 2: Now I want to get onto your report, but I
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  Speaker 2: mean scaring people by suggesting Australian young Australian men are
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  Speaker 2: going to be shot on the beaches of Taiwan.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: It is and the focus of our report, and really
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  Speaker 4: the focus of most of the serious thinking, is actually
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  Speaker 4: not about the prospect.
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  Speaker 5: Of expeditionary forces.
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  Speaker 4: It's about the defense of our own continent, the defense
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  Speaker 4: of our northern approaches, the islands to the north, like
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  Speaker 4: the Cocos, Islands, Christmas Island, even Norfolk Island in the Pacific,
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  Speaker 4: our own backyard in the Pacific. How are we protecting
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  Speaker 4: these regions, how we enmeshing ourselves with our Pacific island
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  Speaker 4: neighbors and rebutting the Chinese attempts to insinuate their ways
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  Speaker 4: into These are some of the recommendations in our report,
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  Speaker 4: hardening and strengthening Northern Australia, our islands, and working more
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  Speaker 4: closely with our neighbors and friends.
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  Speaker 2: Get onto the hardware question in a moment. I want
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  Speaker 2: you to explain to me if you can, because I
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  Speaker 2: know at the heart of this report is this suggestion
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  Speaker 2: that defense and politicians have to stop being led by
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  Speaker 2: these ideas that you planned ten years ahead, five years ahead,
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  Speaker 2: even that you've got We've got to in the climate
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  Speaker 2: that we're currently in an Australia and the world have
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  Speaker 2: some immediate thinking and some do some immediate things.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's really interesting, Steve.
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  Speaker 4: This is not a new notion, even in Canberra and
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  Speaker 4: from the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Defense, Richard
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  Speaker 4: Marles's has said as much, and in the early term
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  Speaker 4: of the Albanesi government is perhaps I hope that we'd
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  Speaker 4: see a reversal of the drift even that they had
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  Speaker 4: inherited from the last Morrison government. But apart from Orcus,
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  Speaker 4: for all the talk, there is no action, if anything.
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  Speaker 4: Funding programs have been cut to try and prop up
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  Speaker 4: the ORCUST program at a time when there really needs
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  Speaker 4: to be actual money spent. Things are ordered to cut
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  Speaker 4: swathes through the bureaucracy to shorten the decision making time frames.
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  Speaker 4: So there is some recognition that we need to take
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  Speaker 4: action in the near term, but it's just not happening.
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  Speaker 4: So that's why our blueprint is very squarely directed at
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  Speaker 4: the term of the next government.
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  Speaker 5: Things we can do right now.
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  Speaker 2: I've got great regard for Jennings and Schuebridges. I know
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  Speaker 2: you have, and Michael and Peter are both regulars on
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  Speaker 2: this program. The last defense announcement I can remember involved
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  Speaker 2: some announcement about drones, but they were not to be armed.
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  Speaker 2: They are unarmed drones to be used as spy drones.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't seem to be all that aggressively defending our
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  Speaker 2: island nation to me.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 4: Drones and missiles are two great examples where there seems
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  Speaker 4: to be analyst discussions about systems that we just don't
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  Speaker 4: seem to be getting any of. If there's one lesson
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  Speaker 4: we've learned out of Ukraine is that you need to
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  Speaker 4: deploy vast amounts of material in a short space of
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  Speaker 4: time ramp up production. And the way they've approached it
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  Speaker 4: in Ukraine is not to set up government working parties
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  Speaker 4: to work out what's the best possible drone. It's actually
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  Speaker 4: just to work with the suppliers that you have, and
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  Speaker 4: we have great suppliers in Australia and actually start ordering
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  Speaker 4: some of these weapons. Of course, and we're behind the
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  Speaker 4: game now because there's a worldwide shortage of missiles and
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  Speaker 4: drones because of the conflict around the world. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we've got to cut through this camera decision making process
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  Speaker 4: otherwise we'll never get anything.
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  Speaker 2: Our government's fundamentally lazy about this because they know they've
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  Speaker 2: got the ANSAs Treaty to back them up. They can
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  Speaker 2: ramp up the number of marine rotations in the North
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  Speaker 2: where I think we're expanding the air bases in the
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  Speaker 2: territory and parts of WA to take B fifty two
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  Speaker 2: bombers and the like. Do we just sort of sit
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  Speaker 2: back and go, well, we've got the best insurance policy
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  Speaker 2: we could ever have for our house.
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  Speaker 1: If it ever comes that we need to use it,
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  Speaker 1: we've got it.
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  Speaker 5: Steve, Isn't that a terrible thought.
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  Speaker 4: So we've got six recommendations in what is the first
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  Speaker 4: of six papers, and one of them does say we
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  Speaker 4: certainly should be inviting the Americans to increase the rotation
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  Speaker 4: of their marines, in fact expand the overall size to
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  Speaker 4: something more like sixteen thousand.
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  Speaker 5: But Australians don't want to be bludgeons.
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  Speaker 4: We don't want to be getting our defense on the
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  Speaker 4: cheap simply by inviting the Americans in. It's about what
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  Speaker 4: we need to do as a nation to prove that
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  Speaker 4: we're dinkham about our own defense. If we're going to
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  Speaker 4: harden and strengthen our defense as sets in Northern Australia
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  Speaker 4: in the Island approaches, to be able to work with
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  Speaker 4: our Pacific Island neighbors, to be able to bring Japan
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  Speaker 4: into the AZAS Framework, which is something else we're doing.
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  Speaker 5: We need to start showing that we're serious.
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  Speaker 4: And so the US alliance is great. Certainly we do
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  Speaker 4: support measures that help us work with our US friends,
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  Speaker 4: But seriously, it's about what we do and the platforms
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  Speaker 4: we procure right now.
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  Speaker 2: Scott, great work. I look forward to reading the report
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  Speaker 2: at some length. Thank you very much for your time,
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  Speaker 2: Scott Hargraves There from the IPA, okay, changing years now.
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  Speaker 2: We've all been having a wonderful time over the last
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  Speaker 2: week and a half with the Olympic Games.
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  Speaker 1: They're not even over yet, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Already Australia's greatest ever Olympic Games. You ever imagine you're
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  Speaker 2: going to say that that's in terms of gold medals?
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  Speaker 2: In fact, yes, today Team Australia won four gold medals
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  Speaker 2: in five hours and have smarked our most successful day
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  Speaker 2: at an Olympic Games ever.
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  Speaker 1: From all, let's go to Paris.
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  Speaker 2: Fox Sports News reporter Luke Dowdy's been doing a fantastic job. Luke,
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  Speaker 2: you've struck gold yourself. Mate, You've attended the most successful
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  Speaker 2: Australian Olympic Games in history.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed. I mean we've been at plenty of games where.
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  Speaker 7: The Aussies haven't performed up to scratch, but this one
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  Speaker 7: has just been euphoric. With the Aussie's in a great mood,
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  Speaker 7: it makes it so much easier to cover things when
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  Speaker 7: we're doing well. As opposed to when we're not doing well,
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  Speaker 7: because the athletes are a little bit happier, aren't they,
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  Speaker 7: and happy to talk and happy to talk to the
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  Speaker 7: fans back home from here in Paris, and we're been
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  Speaker 7: bringing you all of that of the course in the
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  Speaker 7: last couple of days.
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  Speaker 1: Luke, hard to pick a favorite.
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  Speaker 2: Mine is probably that BMX gold medal from last weekend.
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  Speaker 2: But we've still got a couple of really good chances late, especially.
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  Speaker 1: Women's water polo and all.
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  Speaker 2: So our fifteen hundred meter runner, now that race is
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  Speaker 2: going to be I think around about four fifteen am
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday morning. Jessica Hall she's got a real shot,
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  Speaker 2: hasn't she.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she does, indeed.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, this one's really interesting from jess. So she's
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  Speaker 7: gone from a finalist who could mix it with the
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  Speaker 7: world's best around the midpack.
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  Speaker 1: You very respectable when you.
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  Speaker 7: Think about making an Olympic final as an Australian track
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  Speaker 7: and field athlete and we're talking the top one percent
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  Speaker 7: or even you know, a smaller.
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  Speaker 1: Fraction than that.
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  Speaker 7: But just in the last two months jess has really
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  Speaker 7: struck belief. She started to put herself right at the
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  Speaker 7: front and went in with the mentality of these races
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  Speaker 7: that I'm just going to stick with the world's best
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  Speaker 7: for as long as I can, and if I blow
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  Speaker 7: up in this race, so be it. I don't care.
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  Speaker 7: But what's ended up happening is she's realized that she
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  Speaker 7: can actually stick at the front of these races. The
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  Speaker 7: confidence that that has given her has transformed her from
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  Speaker 7: that midpack finisher now to someone who's really expected to
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  Speaker 7: finish on the podium in this fifteen hundred meters. So
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  Speaker 7: absolutely fascinating to see the transformation just in the last
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  Speaker 7: eight weeks or so in Jess Hulse, we watched that
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  Speaker 7: with interest. Also our Ossie Stingers, they were absolutely amazing
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  Speaker 7: this morning Australian time. They beat the USA fourteen thirteen
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  Speaker 7: in a penalty shootout. Now they've got some history this
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  Speaker 7: team as well, because in the first ever women's water
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  Speaker 7: polo final at Sydney in two thousand, the Aussie Stingers
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  Speaker 7: actually scored a goal in the last minute to knock
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  Speaker 7: the USA out of the gold medal position and that's
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  Speaker 7: become one of the most iconic sporting moments in Australian history.
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  Speaker 7: And this team has really taken inspiration from that Steve.
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  Speaker 7: They went in with a real why not us attitude
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  Speaker 7: because since two thousand there's only been two bronze medals
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  Speaker 7: since in two thousand and eight and twenty twelve. For
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  Speaker 7: the women's program. They've won that one fourteen thirteen. It
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  Speaker 7: was their third penalty shootout win from seven games this campaign,
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  Speaker 7: so mentally they are well and truly prepared for the
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  Speaker 7: final against Spain tomorrow night Australian Time.
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  Speaker 2: He as a sports historian, you're aimed to absolutely appreciate
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  Speaker 2: this loop. Back in two thousand, I was working at TWOGB.
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  Speaker 2: They had the rights to the games. We sent along
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  Speaker 2: some very inexperienced reporter to cover it. He ended up
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  Speaker 2: calling it on his mobile phone as the Australian women
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  Speaker 2: knocked off the Americans, as one of the great calls
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  Speaker 2: I've ever and he knew absolutely nothing about water polo,
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  Speaker 2: as I don't either.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk Noah Lyles.
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  Speaker 2: This guy was expected to win the gold as he
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  Speaker 2: did in the one hundred. He's amazing showman. He's gone
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  Speaker 2: out on the track and we now get find out
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  Speaker 2: looked that he actually came down with COVID and managed
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  Speaker 2: still to win a bronze medal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, quite remarkable.
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  Speaker 7: Anyone who saw Noah Lyles hit the track immediately before
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  Speaker 7: the two hundred for men, you would have thought that
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: he was in the best shape of his life. He
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: came out, he was gesturing to the crowd, he was
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: jumping around. He actually got a warning by the officials
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: for taking too long to get into the blocks because
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: he was gesticulating so much.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Turns out it was all bluff.
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: And blood, but perhaps trying to convince himself that he
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: was good to go, because Tuesday night, Australian time, he
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: tested positive for COVID. So this is the guy who
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: won the one hundred meter sprint and ended up finishing third,
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: remarkably behind Leasilli Tobogo of Botswana and Kenneth Bednarek, who
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: got the silver. His compatriot from the USA had to
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: be taken from the track in a wheelchair. Said he
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: was suffering light headedness, chest pain as well shortness of
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: breath due to these symptoms.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Wasn't sleeping well.
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: He addressed reporters later in a mask as well to
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: give us a bit of an insight into what he'd
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: been going through. So when you do go and watch
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: these athletes, perform at the start de France. It's actually
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: quite frightening how quick the human body is moving. The
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: television doesn't do us justice, so for Noah Larles to
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: be able to pull that off with COVID feeling pretty
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: rough is just a remarkable feat.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, watching it up close, it's just extraordinary. Just finally,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: and the Fox News crew have done a fantastic job
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: covering this. By the wa wraps up this weekend closing ceremony,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I think that's at about five o'clock on Monday morning.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Some rumors around that Tom Cruise, the actor, might be
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: involved because of course the next game is going to
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: be in La in Tinseltown. That would just set it off.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, we had an amazing opening ceremony, some criticism
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: of that, but it was pretty impressive. The closing ceremony,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: like we did in Sydney, I'm sure is going to
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: be one worth watching.
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah, there's always the handover moment, isn't there from the
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: current games host to the next game's host. And like
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: you mentioned, that will be in La. Hollywood the center
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: stage and perhaps no biggest star amongst Hollywood's lead over
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: the last So I guess what's been three decades now
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: almost in Tom Cruise, and he loves a stunt, So
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: there's some rumors floating around here the French capital, the
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: tom Cruise is going to perform some sort of stunt
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: from the roof of the Stud de France. So that
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: marked that handover moment from Paris to La Just some
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: other details that have started to come out as well
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: from the artistic director of this Ceremony's a bloke named
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: Thomas Jolly Steve, and he says it's going to combine
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: wonder and dystopia, and it's going to present the Games
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: as a fragile monument. Now this is a quote that
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: the Games, someone's going to come back if the Games
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: disappeared and someone was rebuilding them in a distant future,
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: travelers from another space time who arrived on Earth to
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: discover the vestiges from Olympic history. So whatever on Earth,
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: that means, it's going to be an absolute show, that
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: is for sure.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: He just confused me a bit there, lucas to whether
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: I will get up at five am, but I'm sure
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: it'd be great. Thanks mate, have a great weekend there
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: in Paris. Thank you very much for your help. Make
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: sure you head to Fox use for all the latest coverage.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Still ahead Queensland Premier Stephen Miles. Now this bloke's bizarre.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: He's got a plan to reduce the price of petrol.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: How's he going to do that? Well, he's going to
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: buy petrol stations and get the government to run them.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: And apparently Treasure Jim Chalmers thinks it's a good idea.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I will get Campbell Newman's thoughts on that shortly. Plus
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the new South Wales Police Commissioner. She's in hot water
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: over some very expensive personalized gifts.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: What's all the fuss about?
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Prime editor for the Telegraph, Mark Murray will break it
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: down for us next, Welcome back to Steve Price with
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: you on this Friday night. Now, the new South Wales
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Police Commissioner Karen Webb, who seems to attract a hell
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: of a lot of attention, is again under fire as
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: morale and the police force in New South Wales, I'm
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: told hits an all time low. Now the Daddy Telegraph
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: revealed that this week. On top of that, we now
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: have the great Gin for Gifts scandal or is it
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: a stretch to call it a scandal? Well, eleven thousand
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: dollars according to one report of labeled gin for gifts,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: which web says is simply a continuation of a practice
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: by former police commissioner Mick Fuller. Well he used raswine,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: not jin, you might ask yourself. Given the really important
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: job New South Wales police do keeping us safe, is
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: this really all that important? Well, that's where police politics
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: comes into it. I think so. Someone who knows that
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: better than most is our Friday regular Daily Telegraph Crime
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: editor Mark Murie. Great to see you again. We're not
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: talking about, you know, a stop off at Dan Murphy's
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: for a bottle of wine type of gift.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Here are we? But is this more about the.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Political friction that seems to exist in the New South
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Wales Police force around Karen Webb's job as commissioner.
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: You've hit the nail on the head. She's made a
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: lot of enemies, and all commissioners do, and every police
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: force has factions and that, But Karen Webber is actually
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: for some reason, there are a lot of people out
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: together her. She's sacked at least fourteen executives without cause
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: she doesn't have to, and there's some enemies out there.
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: And the booze, as you said, is just a byproduct.
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: But now she's got herself in a bit of a
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: tangle with this because there are some serious questions not
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: just about the booze, but about her relationship with the
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: supplier of the bo who was.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: A longtime friend.
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: And even though Mick Fuller used as well, she didn't
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: declare that she knew him.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: This has already been I think marked the subject of
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: a secret inquiry. Why it needs to be secret, I
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: don't know. By the Law Enforcement Conduct Commission. Firstly, what
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: is that commission? And why is it secret? And what
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: were the findings? I mean, you've got a copy of it,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: but what is this about.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I don't have a copy of it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: I have a very abridged eight paragraph version of it,
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: with the rest of it being kept secret. Now, the
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: law in the earlyccs, it's called the LECH is an
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: independent body oversight in the behavior of the police. It
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: replaced the Police Integrity Commission. Now why this was kept
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: secret is no one really knows the fact that even
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: the fact we only found out there had been an
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: inquiry hours after the matter was raised by Rob Roberts,
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: an independent MP and former cop, is baffling. The finding
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: said there was no corrupt conduct by missus Webb, the
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: Karen Webb, but in fact she should have declared that
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: she had a relationship with the supplier. Now that's where
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: things get a bit murky. This is where Karen Webbers
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: said publicly, I didn't know the supplier was being used
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: was my friend until after the order. Yet we have
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: spoken to the supplier who said Karen approached him a
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: friend that he's known for quite a while through her husband,
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: and she said, I'm thinking of the tradition that Mick
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: Fuller started, but I want to do it with jin.
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: Those two statements need to be cleared up. And the
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: other part is the leck. Their thorough investigation did not
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: include interviewing Michael Hope, a supplier, which would have cleared
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: that up. So there's a whole lot of questions secrecy.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: As you said, Jay, I love New South Wales politics.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: It's ironic, isn't it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: We can remember that we lost a premier in Barrio
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Farrell over a bottle of grange. Now we might lose
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: police commissioner over gin.
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, and it's becoming a real issue. And
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: as you said, it's not so much the booze, but
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: it's how everything's unfolding. And the deeper, darker problem that
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: Karen web has is that there are people out there
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: who are not happy with the job they're doing and
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: they're trying to undermine her. Now she has to rectify
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: that and being honest and open and telling us there
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: are still we don't know where the bottles of gin went.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: That's the other big problem.
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: She's ordered fifty, was going to order another one hundred
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: and fifty but thought, gee, I better slow down on that.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: But we don't know where it went.
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: And she said there's a register of twenty four, but
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: she won't tell us. We do know one bottle went
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: to the police minister Yasmin Katley, which is lovely to
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: give your boss a bottle.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Of It's interesting.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: It reminds me how much pressure she was in a
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: few months ago. And then we had that attack market
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: the Assyrian Church, which was live streamed, and she seemed
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: to handle the aftermath of that pretty well. On the
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: nine I said the right thing about the riots in
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: the car park where her members were attacked. I thought
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: she'd sort of come out the other side, because before
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: that you had a whole bunch of drama surrounding her. Job,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: and you thought, well, she's not long for this world.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: She's probably going to get forced out. Is my interpretation
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: of that. Vaguely correct.
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: No, it's spot on.
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: Not only did she handle Wakely very well, she also
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: handled the horrible attack at Westfield where six innocent people
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: were stabbed to death and then one of her officers
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: shot the perpetrator. She handled that very very well. And
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: it was only within days that the Wakely matter. As
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: you said, she declared that a terrorism act very quickly,
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: and there was signs that, Wow, she's come through. As
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: you said, she'd had a really rough trot the year before.
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: But this is really bad. And she still hasn't answered
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: any questions. We've put ten questions to her for three days.
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: Where is the views? Where is where did it go?
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: Still not answering.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Just on the wider question of morale that I mentioned
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: at the beginning. You talk regularly to serving police officers
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: from the junior ranks all the way up to senior ranks.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Is morale poor in New South Wales? It is?
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: Unfortunately, it's very bad. We've got a horrible attrition rate.
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: We've got people resigning left, right and center. Now it's
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: a bit of a worldwide tread that police forces are
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: having trouble attracting, but we're losing far more than we're
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: attracting at all.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: It's a real crisis.
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: We have some commands that I've only got sixty percent strength,
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: and it's because.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Morale is very low.
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: They've got a leader that seems to be getting in
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: trouble all the time and not handling tough situations. Now
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: she's a police commissioner, not a media performer, but they
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: go hand in hand now, and you need leadership and
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: you need to be on the front foot so that
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: people don't go, well, why am I doing this job?
• 28:57
  Speaker 10: Look?
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: My boss's she's getting in trouble? What am I doing here? So, yeah,
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: that morale is at the lowest I've seen for a
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: long time.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: If you're a senior sergeant in a suburban New South
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Walest police station and you were watching this and you
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: weren't that happy about your conditions and your pay and
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: the arguments around giving people bottles of gin, I'm not
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: sure you're going to turn up to your next shift
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: feeling all that good about yourself, are you?
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: No?
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: That is the problem in a nutshell, and it's and
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: then on top of that, they're getting worked to death,
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: you know, and we've got detectives being put on put
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: on the trucks, as they say, because there's not enough
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: officers to go to the front line policing. And that's
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: got to stop. And for that to happen, you've got
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: to have people to convince. Your boss needs to convention
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: not to go and quit, that what you're doing is
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: important work. And I'm fully behind you. And at the
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: moment she's embroiled in a fight over the fact that
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: she's ordered fifty bottles of gin and was going to
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: get another one hundred and fifties to give out as gifts.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: It doesn't help.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I guess Mark that she followed Mick Fuller, who was
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: widely liked I understand within the force.
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and he took over a very divided police force
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: if you remember, you know, we'd had our warring deputies
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: in Nick Caldos and Cath Bern and Andrew Skippy on.
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: It was a public mess. It was a brawl or
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: factions everywhere. He seemed to put it together. And the
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: other thing that Nick Fuller was very good. He was
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: a very good media performer, and he stumped up nearly
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: every week to talk to the media. Now, Karen Webb
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: is not great at the media, you know, unfortunately, and
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: that's causing big problems.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Not all that good at hiring media advisors either.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Mark Murrio was great to catch up with you on
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: a Friday night, Mate, Thanks a lot.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Thank you to see you, Ladys Deve. All right, Friday night.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Let's get back into some politics. Bring in my Friday
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: regular from MC Queensland Premier Campbell, Neim and Campbell always
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: good to see you on a Friday night. Let's start
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: with the cf EU, just to bring the tone down.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Hasn't left the headlines for the better part of a
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: month now. Lots of allegations flying around about corruption, intimidation
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: on work sites everywhere from Melbourne to Brisbane. Union has
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: refused to appoint an administrator. They've missed the deadline to
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: do that and governments are now installing workplace Minister Murray
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: what has installed some administrators of its own. He's going
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: to put legislation before the Parliament next week.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Is that going to fix anything?
• 31:30
  Speaker 11: Look, it's not really because what we needs a Royal commission.
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: And frankly, when I see the comments of Minister Murray
• 31:37
  Speaker 11: White I just have to snigger because he's a Queensland politician, Stephen.
• 31:41
  Speaker 11: As I've said I think two times previously on this
• 31:44
  Speaker 11: very show back in twenty fifteen January twenty fifteen in
• 31:49
  Speaker 11: the election campaign. Back then, I put on the table
• 31:52
  Speaker 11: I joined the jots between the vikies, criminal hotor cycle gangs,
• 31:56
  Speaker 11: the CFMAU and donations to the Labor Party. I was
• 32:00
  Speaker 11: meant with hows and screams from the left in Queensland.
• 32:04
  Speaker 11: And yet he pretends today that it's all a big
• 32:06
  Speaker 11: revelations brand new. Are Royal commissions required to get to
• 32:10
  Speaker 11: the bottom of this organization to give people confidence to
• 32:14
  Speaker 11: come forward and give evidence. That's the only thing that
• 32:17
  Speaker 11: we'll fix it, always seeing it the mark from Labor
• 32:20
  Speaker 11: is what you call performance art.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: So you're the bloke responsible for getting the bikis to
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: move from Queensland to Melbourne and take over the CFMEU
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: down here.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Is that your fault?
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: Well, it's always my fault, stave to be frank.
• 32:37
  Speaker 11: But look if I certainly showed that if you wanted
• 32:41
  Speaker 11: to actually get tough on a criminal group and have
• 32:45
  Speaker 11: the police doing the job they meant to do. And
• 32:47
  Speaker 11: by the way, the crime and Misconduct Commission. It's a
• 32:50
  Speaker 11: standing royal commission effectively here in Queensland Steve and those
• 32:54
  Speaker 11: powers were used against the criminal motorcycle gangs back in
• 32:58
  Speaker 11: thirteen and fourteen to Greater and again you've got to
• 33:01
  Speaker 11: ask why aren't they doing their job and why aren't
• 33:04
  Speaker 11: police services around the nation doing their job to go
• 33:07
  Speaker 11: after the CFMU anyway and their associations with bikis. But
• 33:13
  Speaker 11: I think a Royal commission is the thing that really
• 33:15
  Speaker 11: gets to the bottom of it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Queensland politics. The Premier, Stephen Miles. He's
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: come up with this genius idea an election pledge, another
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: one to bring down petrol prices. Now I don't quite
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: know how he's going to do it, but crazily he
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: wants to start by setting up government owned petrol stations. Now,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I saw the nrama on sky this morning saying that's unworkable.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: He pointed out that the Peter Courier I think it was,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: is over two hundred petrol stations in Greater Brisbane. What
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: does Miles think these ten will actually be able to do?
• 33:52
  Speaker 11: Campbell, well, I've got to declare a conflict of interest
• 33:56
  Speaker 11: very quickly because I am an investor in the the
• 34:00
  Speaker 11: real estate that some fuel stations set on, but I
• 34:02
  Speaker 11: don't operate one, So without out of the way.
• 34:04
  Speaker 9: Look this is well. Firstly, at least.
• 34:08
  Speaker 11: You can say Stephen Miles is not being a small target.
• 34:12
  Speaker 11: And he sort of made that comment during the week
• 34:15
  Speaker 11: with just the hint of a smile in his face,
• 34:17
  Speaker 11: and it was a gibe against Christoph Foley.
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: But look, it's sort of old wine and new bottles.
• 34:22
  Speaker 11: If you go back one hundred years in Queens and
• 34:23
  Speaker 11: we had all sorts of government owned enterprises, government Butcher's
• 34:27
  Speaker 11: for example, And in nineteen fifty seven in Queens and
• 34:30
  Speaker 11: the Gare Labor government were actually going to do this.
• 34:33
  Speaker 11: Back then they had a deal with a company in
• 34:38
  Speaker 11: what is now Taiwan or the island of Foremosa, and
• 34:41
  Speaker 11: they're going to bring import petrol into Queens and same rhetoric.
• 34:46
  Speaker 11: It's almost like he's got the script from nineteen fifty
• 34:49
  Speaker 11: seven and it's.
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: Just a replay. People have short memories.
• 34:52
  Speaker 11: But look, it is economically crazy. These are the people
• 34:57
  Speaker 11: who can't stop ambulance ramping at at the hospitals that
• 35:01
  Speaker 11: they run. Can you imagine the queues outside the Queen's
• 35:03
  Speaker 11: and government fuel stations.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: It's just mad.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: It's absolute, man, It's just still on Premier Miles. He's
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: not going to force Queensland public servants back to the office,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: just like the hard left of Cinder Allen and Victoria
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: won't either. You've got to pat Chris Mins on the
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: back for saying not only should the public servants get
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: back to the office, but get back there tomorrow is
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: what he said on Monday.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Miles won't do it.
• 35:32
  Speaker 11: Look, Chris Mins continues to impress me like he makes
• 35:36
  Speaker 11: a lot of really positive calls, and good on him
• 35:40
  Speaker 11: for having the leadership and the intestinal fortitude to say
• 35:44
  Speaker 11: to the public sector, you've got to actually get back
• 35:46
  Speaker 11: in the office. You cannot run a performing organization, one
• 35:50
  Speaker 11: that has the customer, we the people at heart if
• 35:55
  Speaker 11: you're doing it out of people's some sort of studies
• 35:58
  Speaker 11: at home and they like you do need to have
• 36:01
  Speaker 11: people in to build teamwork and to actually get that
• 36:04
  Speaker 11: performance going.
• 36:05
  Speaker 9: So good on Mins. It's a pity.
• 36:08
  Speaker 11: Miles won't do it, because it really just shows that
• 36:12
  Speaker 11: we'll continue to see a public sector in queens And
• 36:15
  Speaker 11: failing to deliver for the community and we pay our taxes.
• 36:19
  Speaker 11: We deserve a public sector that actually delivers results.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you on MINS and I think
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: that he and Peter Malinowskis from South Australia to right
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: leaning later MPs are easily the best premiers in the
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: country at the moment, without any doubt. Camblly em and
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: it was great to see on a Friday, have a
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: fantastic weekend. Still ahead the growing angle with Australia's Muslim
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: community towards the federal Labor government and the impact it
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: could have on the next federal election. And up next
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: to a bit of fun. Cartoonist mart Knight joined us
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: on a regular basis. He'll walk us through the week
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: with the lighter side of things with his cartoons. Welcome
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: back to the Price with you Denika de Giorgio coming
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: up at the top of the hour. Some breaking news
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: just in the Australian newspapers reporting that Liberal Senator Linda
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Reynolds has broken down while on the witness stand in
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Perth giving evidence in her defamation trial against Brittany Higgins
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: and David Shiraz. She told the court she feels guilty
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: for labor quote bullying to death. Senator Kimberly Kitching. She
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: sobbed as she told the court that she believed her
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: decision broke her confidence and had triggered the events that
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: led to her death.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: That's very sad.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: The trial continues next week and we'll keep you up
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: to date right here on Sky News. Let's put a
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: smile on our face now take a look back on
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: the week to do that, joined by our regular Herald
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Sun cartoonists night. Great to see you again.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Mark.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Obviously, every four years you get an Olympic Games which
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: gives you a great opportunity to play around with in
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: spiration and being an Australian athlete. What have you been doing?
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Show me one of your Olympic cartoons?
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: What have we got this week? Well it was all sports,
• 38:09
  Speaker 10: Steve and a longer quicker that that Latin stronger for
• 38:18
  Speaker 10: the Olympics. Maybe our politicians and try that, Maybe our
• 38:23
  Speaker 10: work could try that one day. But yeah, it has
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: been all sport and there were some fantastic moments. We've
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: won the most gold medals we've ever won. I think
• 38:34
  Speaker 10: there's going to be a lot of excess luggage baggage fees.
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: On the way home.
• 38:39
  Speaker 10: We're carrying all this gold, and of course we celebrate
• 38:45
  Speaker 10: our youngest ever Olympic gold medalists, young young Arissa, who
• 38:50
  Speaker 10: wowed us in the skateboard And I thought I would
• 38:53
  Speaker 10: draw a cartoon, you know, creating this link between sort
• 38:57
  Speaker 10: of Olympia and Zeus and all these amazing the discopolis
• 39:01
  Speaker 10: through to today we have skateboarders skating in a cement
• 39:07
  Speaker 10: swimming pool in the Olympics.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: What to change?
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Unbelievably really and the kayakers got a bit of a
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: run as well, know me Fox and assist of both
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: won gold medals.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Do you have a look at that as well?
• 39:22
  Speaker 10: I did. The incredible, the amazing Fox sisters. They are
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: just apparently if they were in nation, they would be
• 39:30
  Speaker 10: like thirteenth from the middle tally, just those two girls.
• 39:33
  Speaker 10: But I thought here there was a great contrast between
• 39:36
  Speaker 10: the sort of ability and dexterity of these two women
• 39:41
  Speaker 10: to negotiate rapids, and I thought I'd compared that with
• 39:44
  Speaker 10: how our politicians and our government deal with I guess
• 39:49
  Speaker 10: rapids and whitewater, which was not sort of in the
• 39:52
  Speaker 10: same league as the Fox girls.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, outstanding cartoon, that's brilliant, really good tribute. So the
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Foxes now We've all had trips where we've lost luggage.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: You've had a look at Alan Joyce. He has someone's
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: told him that he's not going to get nine million
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: of his bonus, and your cartoon brilliantly shuffers the former
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: CEO sitting there.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Where's the bags? Mark?
• 40:21
  Speaker 10: It's one of the cruelest ironies, isn't it? Pricey? There's
• 40:24
  Speaker 10: per old Joyce. He's sitting there waiting for his bonus
• 40:27
  Speaker 10: to arrive, and unfortunately Quantis was handling his bonus and
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: we know how quantus are with handling packages and luggage.
• 40:37
  Speaker 10: That's cruel.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Now, my great hero, dust Dustin Martin from Richmond, finally
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: called it quits after three hundred and two games. Are
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: you trying to wind me up with this cartoon? Are
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: you trying to make me angry? Or what are you
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: doing there?
• 40:51
  Speaker 10: Look, it's just it's a fond farewell to one of
• 40:54
  Speaker 10: the greats of the games. And look he left, as
• 40:57
  Speaker 10: we'll always know, Dusty with a big argue, and in
• 41:01
  Speaker 10: particular this time to the media, because he just doesn't
• 41:04
  Speaker 10: give interviews, even on his retirement, not a word to
• 41:08
  Speaker 10: the media. So there he is fending off the poor
• 41:11
  Speaker 10: old press pack with one of his fantastic palm offs
• 41:14
  Speaker 10: and good luck doing. He is a champion. He won
• 41:17
  Speaker 10: your three Grand finals. Bryce, you shouldn't be too disappointed.
• 41:21
  Speaker 10: And I think you're going to make a wooden spoon
• 41:23
  Speaker 10: this year too, mate, So congratulations.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for that little slap at the end. That's
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Mark Knight from the Herald Sun. You'll see his cartoon
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: with my column in the Herald Sun tomorrow morning, and
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Marke'll be beck with us in a couple of weeks time. Next,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: more madness from Victoria's Alan Gunman. I'll get into that
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: with my panel up next, welcome back to the Price
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: with you. Let's bring in our Friday panel, Sky one
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: News contributor Gary Hargraves and journalists from the Daily Telegraph.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: James Willis, Welcome to you both.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: James.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Look, I've been intrigued by this whole Muslim political movement
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: that has risen up in recent months, garnering increased attention
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: after the conflict in Gaza.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Now a bloke called Gaith Kraem, a spokesperson for one
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: of these groups known as Muslim Votes. He's talked to
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Sky News Australia. Now this is part of a special
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: investigation called Clash of Faiths The Fight for Muslim Votes
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: that'll go to airon Sky on Tuesday night next week
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: at seven point thirty. Here's a little of what this
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: bloke had to say about the movement.
• 42:29
  Speaker 9: How did it.
• 42:29
  Speaker 12: Stand idly by when people in guars aren't even getting
• 42:34
  Speaker 12: the bare minimum to survive, not to die starvation, in
• 42:36
  Speaker 12: thirst and our government has not done everything?
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: Possibly? Can you paint a picture there of a government
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: which has got blood on its hands?
• 42:42
  Speaker 12: Absolutely?
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 42:45
  Speaker 12: If you have the ability to do something and you
• 42:47
  Speaker 12: fail not to do it, then you're complicit in.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: What goes on.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: JAMESI went on to say that people come to him
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: and say, who should I vote for? How worried do
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: you reckon? Tony Burke, Chris Bowen, even the Prime Minister
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: themselves might be. They might want to watch next Tuesday
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: because this is a genuine awakening of the Muslim vote.
• 43:05
  Speaker 13: I reckon, Steve, I think you're right. And the other
• 43:08
  Speaker 13: name to add to.
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: That list is Jason Clair, where I'm sure I write
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: in saying more than thirty percent of his electorate identified
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: as Islamic in the last census, and Tony Burke has
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: a large Muslim population of Chris Bowen has a decent
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: enough sized Muslim population as well, and you have seen
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: in recent times with the Labor conferences and a number
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: of their branches, how this party is not on the
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: same page about how to respond.
• 43:33
  Speaker 13: To the crisis in the Middle East with a massive
• 43:37
  Speaker 13: push to support the Palestinian side of the conflict and
• 43:42
  Speaker 13: move away from Israel. You've seen that over and over
• 43:45
  Speaker 13: again from the Labor Party over the last few months.
• 43:47
  Speaker 13: They don't know where they stand on this issue. You
• 43:49
  Speaker 13: have people in the cabinet that have different views and
• 43:52
  Speaker 13: as a result, you've now got a number of key ministers,
• 43:56
  Speaker 13: including the ones we've just mentioned, that would be very
• 43:59
  Speaker 13: very nerve about what they've seen in the UK at
• 44:02
  Speaker 13: the last election, where the Muslim vote the Muslim political
• 44:06
  Speaker 13: party did enough damage to take notice of. But ultimately
• 44:11
  Speaker 13: we have to ask ourselves. I'm keen to see what
• 44:13
  Speaker 13: the policies are in place because I'm not convinced that
• 44:16
  Speaker 13: a political party can win a seat based on just
• 44:21
  Speaker 13: one issue, and that is the issue that we're hearing
• 44:23
  Speaker 13: over and over again in regards to Gaza.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Gary, your experience as a politician, I mean politicians from
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: all sides in Australia have used migrant groups as blocks
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: of voters for years. Do you think this is going
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: to happen here?
• 44:43
  Speaker 14: Well, look, they're all individuals, Steve. They all should be
• 44:46
  Speaker 14: able to make their own choice. But there are those
• 44:47
  Speaker 14: who are gatekeepers. But look about the Islamic communities. It's
• 44:51
  Speaker 14: a plural. There's not one single Muslim voice on just
• 44:54
  Speaker 14: about anything, and they're always discussing, stroker arguing amongst themselves.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: About all sorts stuff.
• 45:00
  Speaker 14: But look that gaza thing does define them, It does
• 45:03
  Speaker 14: actually bring them together. We saw it in the Brisbane
• 45:06
  Speaker 14: City Council election earlier this year where it took a
• 45:08
  Speaker 14: couple of percent off what had been a very marginal
• 45:11
  Speaker 14: seat and the seat was lost from the Liberal Party
• 45:14
  Speaker 14: to the Labor Party in another safe Liberal councilor lost
• 45:17
  Speaker 14: a couple of percent. Look, Jim Chalmers is somebody should
• 45:20
  Speaker 14: add to that list. He's got a huge Muslim community
• 45:23
  Speaker 14: in his electorate. Part of it used to be in
• 45:25
  Speaker 14: mild electorate. Mild seat of Morton also large Muslim vote.
• 45:29
  Speaker 14: So look it does have an impact. But Gaza does
• 45:32
  Speaker 14: unite a group of people who are often variety of
• 45:35
  Speaker 14: different views on all sorts of things, and Queensland is different.
• 45:39
  Speaker 14: The Brisbane people are very business oriented. They're the ones
• 45:42
  Speaker 14: in Sydney a little bit more welfare oriented.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I think, James another bright idea from the Allen government
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: here in Victoria. Now I know you're raging Greenie, so
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: you'll accept this. You're not going to be allowed to
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: use compospitable, compostible plastic bags in your bin. Wants you
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: to use paper bags to put food waste in.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Now, how do you reckon, James.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: That's going to go with the Friday night leftovers of
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: the Rogan Josh in a paper bag come tomorrow morning, Steve.
• 46:15
  Speaker 13: I think it's a miracle that people can even do
• 46:18
  Speaker 13: their garbage and they're recycling these days. There's that many
• 46:21
  Speaker 13: bins in Sydney. We've got councils with four bins. And
• 46:25
  Speaker 13: is it any wonder that in Victoria they're now saying
• 46:27
  Speaker 13: there's a massive problem with a contamination because people can't
• 46:30
  Speaker 13: figure out what food, what product to put in what bin.
• 46:33
  Speaker 13: And this happens over and over again. It's getting far
• 46:35
  Speaker 13: too complicated for people to keep up with. For the record,
• 46:39
  Speaker 13: I don't mind the paper bags at the supermarkets. Now
• 46:42
  Speaker 13: I think I've warmed to them. I know they do
• 46:44
  Speaker 13: that in New York and other parts of the world,
• 46:46
  Speaker 13: but I think it's a great bit of irony that
• 46:49
  Speaker 13: you put plastic items. Every other item in the supermarkets
• 46:52
  Speaker 13: is wrapped in plastic into a paper bag because someone's
• 46:56
  Speaker 13: getting a pat on the back of saving the planet.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Gary, You ask yourself how they actually going to police this,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: But then I remember that there's actually bin police that
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: go around the streets, lifting up the lids and seeing
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: what you've put in there, then putting a sticker on
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: the bin saying we won't come back and pick this
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: up if you keep breaking the law.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Mate.
• 47:19
  Speaker 14: Yeah, look, and you just know that it's just Numpty's
• 47:21
  Speaker 14: got a numpty. Governments love to admire problems, so creating
• 47:24
  Speaker 14: more gives.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Them more to do.
• 47:26
  Speaker 14: And frankly, Steve, I wish government would just get the
• 47:28
  Speaker 14: hell out of our lives. There's nothing wrong with the
• 47:30
  Speaker 14: plastic containers. Who wants to use paper straws again? I
• 47:33
  Speaker 14: thought we got rid of them when I was a kid,
• 47:35
  Speaker 14: but they're back again, and the replacement with steel straws.
• 47:39
  Speaker 14: Basically they're stabbing items. I mean everywhere you turn numpties
• 47:43
  Speaker 14: just have to numpty.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: That's what's going on.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Steve Well, they can't fix the potholes in the road now,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: they can't even work out the bloody bins and what.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: You should put your garbage in.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, James, that magnificent building in Sydney, the
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Crown Berangaroub building, the Penthouse, has gone back on the
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: market of US three probably only Gary could afford it.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: The price has been slashed by ten million dollars and
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: a new agents appointed. They say they want the place
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: sold by Christmas. Who's in the market. How much will
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: it go for eighty million dollars?
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: They reckon?
• 48:19
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I know for a fact that these apartments there's
• 48:23
  Speaker 13: no one in Sydney with a twenty percent deposit that
• 48:26
  Speaker 13: is looking to pick this apartment up before Christmas with
• 48:29
  Speaker 13: a first home buyers grant. These are largely driven by
• 48:32
  Speaker 13: current investment. They've acknowledged that. The good news is if
• 48:36
  Speaker 13: you want to get it for ten million dollars off,
• 48:38
  Speaker 13: the description is incredible. I think you've got a three
• 48:41
  Speaker 13: hundred bottle wine cellar. There's direct access to the Sydney Harbor. Foreshow,
• 48:45
  Speaker 13: there's a butler's pantry, so I assume you've got to
• 48:47
  Speaker 13: bring your own butler as well. But certainly yeah, I mean,
• 48:50
  Speaker 13: maybe this is a sign that the Sydney housing market
• 48:52
  Speaker 13: is slowing down at long last.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: James, you and I know a couple of blokes you
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: could probably afford that.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not naming any names.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: James Willison, Gary Hargrave, thank you very much for joining us.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Imagine that paying eighty million dollars for an apartment. It's
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: a beautiful building and it is on Sydney Harbor, which
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: is a magnificent location.
• 49:12
  Speaker 10: Thank you.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: That's all the time we have for tonight. Thanks for
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: your company. Coming up next for Instant Primetime, I should say,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: with Danika de Giorgio,