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The Republicans Made Me Do It · Plausibly Live - The Dave Bowman Show Podcast

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  The president would not pardon or commute the sense for his son
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  Hunter. I just want to make sure that
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  that is not going to change over the next six months.
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  The President's. Saying it's still.
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  It's still a. No, it's still a.
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  No, it's. Still a no.
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  It will be a no. It is a no, and I don't have
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  anything else to add. Will he pardon his son?
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  No. This is plausibly live, the
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  official podcast at the Dave Bowman Show.
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  Well, good evening, Mr. and Misses America, all the ships at
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  sea. It's me, Dave.
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  Normally I don't do this. Normally I don't go for the
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  instant reaction podcast. But I got to be honest with you,
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  this one was kind of instituted by my wife, whom I love dearly,
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  who was well, more than a little upset about what happened today
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  and tried to calm her down, but didn't, didn't go very far
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  before she went to work. Look, the pardon power exists.
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  It's part of the Constitution. Whether we agree with it, like
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  it, dislike it, really not the relevant issue.
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  The fact is it exists. The fact is it has existed since
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  it was ratified and presidents have used it or misused it since
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  then. Yes, it was intended to be an
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  act of mercy, but like impeachment, it's become a
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  political act. It's the way it is.
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  The president said that he would never pardon his son.
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  He was not going to pardon his son.
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  Cream Jean Pierre Paul said, no, he's not going to pardon him.
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  And everybody's upset. You can get upset about it like
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  my wife. You can get give yourself
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  heartburn over it or you could understand 3 basic things #1
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  listen to me carefully. Press statements are not
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  delivered underoath. I don't care if it's the
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  president sitting down with the press or the press secretary.
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  It's not testimony. You can't charge them with
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  perjury. Press statements are not
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  delivered underoath #2 particularly when it comes to
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  the press secretary. She can only, she, or he, as the
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  case may be, can only repeat what they've been told.
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  I guarantee you that what she was told was the president will
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  not be pardoning his son, period.
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  That's what she has. All that notebook thing, that
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  one sentence is in there. The president will not be
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  pardoning his son. She's not Privy to the actual
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  discussions. She doesn't know what's actually
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  going on because she's the press secretary.
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  She's not anybody of any importance whatsoever.
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  For the love of God, I don't know why people watch these
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  press briefings. I really don't.
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  Press secretaries, Their job is to deflect.
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  That's it. Distract and deflect.
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  And the better they are at that, the better they are as press
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  secretaries. You could say what you want
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  about whether you think that they're liars or whatever.
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  They're just repeating what they know, what they've been told.
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  They're just doing their job. And by being distracted by it,
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  by it, you're letting them do their job.
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  Number 3, and this is, this might be most important.
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  Everybody knew that Joe Biden was going to pardon Hunter.
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  Everybody this was this was never in doubt.
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  Every time he said he wasn't going to, you knew he was lying.
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  Every time the Express secretary said he wasn't going to, you
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  knew it was a lie. We all knew that someday the
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  pardon would happen. We're going to learn in the
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  coming years that this pardon was part of the deal for him to
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  step down. I guarantee you we will learn
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  that it will come out that as part of the process of him
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  agreeing to step aside, I get to pardon my son.
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  And we talked about this certainly on what the frock.
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  We talked about the fact that it would happen after the election
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  because if Harris won, it wouldn't matter.
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  Would there would be no political impact from it.
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  And if she lost, who cares? We're we're leaving anyway.
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  There's no there's no political drawback to it.
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  It will become clear to us that this was part of that agreement
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  for him to step aside. You know it.
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  I know it. We all know it.
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  Can we prove it? No.
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  But sometimes, sometimes 2 + 2 does equal 4.
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  And this was pretty obvious. You can get up tomorrow.
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  And like, we all went to watch The View the day after the
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  election because we wanted to see the meltdown.
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  You can turn into the press secretary's press conference
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  there fully expecting her to be eviscerated.
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  Not going to happen, folks. Write this down.
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  It's not going to happen. Why?
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  Because what she's been told and what you are now being told by
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  the president is he had to pardon him.
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  Did did you actually read the pardon?
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  Did you read the statement? The president's position is he
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  had to pardon Hunter and it's the Republicans fault that he
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  had to do it. And so her answers tomorrow are
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  going to be exactly that. We didn't want to do it.
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  We weren't planning to do it. The Republicans made us do it.
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  The actual words in his statement, he talks about the
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  fact that there was a plea deal and that the plea deal fell
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  apart. But the plea deal would have
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  been fair. But because Republicans took
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  credit for smashing up the plea deal, they had to.
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  They had to do this. His exact quote.
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  No reasonable person who looks at the facts of Hunter's case
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  can reach any other conclusion. Then Hunter was singled out
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  because only because he is my son, and that is wrong.
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  There's been an effort to break Hunter, who for 5 1/2 years,
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  who's been sober for 5 1/2 years, even in the face of
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  unrelenting attacks and selective prosecution in trying
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  to break Hunter, they were trying to break me.
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  And there's no reason to believe it will stop here.
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  Enough is enough. He will tell you and Corrine
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  Jean Pierre Paul tomorrow will tell you that he had to pardon
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  Hunter because it's the Republicans fault.
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  And you can spend tomorrow, Monday, rest of the week getting
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  upset about it. You can, you can play all the
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  clips you want about Korean Jean Pierre Paul lying and the
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  president lying, but they don't see it that way.
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  They see it as. You made me do it.
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  The devil made me do it. Flip Wilson all over again.
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  That's what they believe and that's what they're going to
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  tell you. And if you try to argue with
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  them, that's what you're going to get.
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  Well, you made us do it. We don't want to do it.
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  You made us do it. And you can get upset about that
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  and you can get all hyper about it, or you could understand that
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  this was always going to happen. Should they have been more
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  upfront about it? Probably.
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  But that's not the way our political system works.
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  And press statements are not delivered underoath.
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  So they weren't lies, certainly weren't perjury, not in the way
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  that we want to look at it. I mean, they are lies, but
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  they're political lies, right? They don't really mean anything
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  because we all knew that they were lies.
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  We all knew that the deal was he would pardon them and step
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  aside. Mickey Rivers used to say there
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  ain't no sense in worrying about the things you got control over
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  because you got control over. Ain't no sense in worrying about
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  things you don't have any control over because you don't
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  even control them. And that's kind of the approach
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  I think we need to take here. We all knew that this was
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  coming. We can laugh about it, make fun
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  of them about it. But believe me, their argument
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  is you made me do it. And no matter how you look at
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  it, none of us had any control over it.
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  So there's no sense in worrying about it.
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