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Longer School Days For Kids · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: Six thirty eight. Check Douglas in the Power Hour on
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  Speaker 1: six to ten WTVNA two one nine eight eighty six
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  Speaker 1: is my number eight two one WUTV. And if you
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  Speaker 1: have any further thoughts on the dog attacks and the
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  Speaker 1: sentencing of the people owning those pit bulls and in
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  Speaker 1: Pickaway County, feel free. They both got fourteen to sixteen
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  Speaker 1: and a half years. Also, I want to get into
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  Speaker 1: this extending the school day's story because RFK is getting
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  Speaker 1: all the publicity for it, but it's happened in years
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  Speaker 1: past from two other Kennedys as a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: as well as a house built one forty five which
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  Speaker 1: is which is active right now in the Ohio State House,
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  Speaker 1: which would do the same thing. I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: that's such a good idea. By the way, if I
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  Speaker 1: get tied before I get out of here the story,
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  Speaker 1: I think I talked about it yesterday with the clubs
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  Speaker 1: firefighters saying, hey, we need more trucks, we need more equipment,
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  Speaker 1: our stuffs breaking down. City of Columbus has responded basically,
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  Speaker 1: they said, you're lying, you are lying, you don't know
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  Speaker 1: what you're talking about. You're lying, And I'll try to
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  Speaker 1: get that before before I get out of here tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Is that is that an accurate quotes? That was I
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  Speaker 1: right on it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Pitch and everything.
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  Speaker 1: What's said is the guy that's being quoted in here
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  Speaker 1: of representing the city of Columbus, his name Reagan, and
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  Speaker 1: that just doesn't feel right to me. It just doesn't
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  Speaker 1: feel right to me in the state of Ohio. And
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  Speaker 1: we've had we've had Josh Williams on here before, and
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  Speaker 1: I was very impressed with him. He's one of the
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  Speaker 1: sponsors of House Bill one, uh, the other being State
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  Speaker 1: Representative Adam Byrd, Republican out of New Richmond, and UH
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  Speaker 1: and William Josh, I'm sorry, Josh Williams is from Sylvania. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: What the bill would do is take grade seven to
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  Speaker 1: twelve in the state of Ohio from the current requirement
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  Speaker 1: of one thousand and one hours minimum per school year
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  Speaker 1: and increase it to one thousand and fifty four hours
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  Speaker 1: minimum school year, adding fifty three hours of what they
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  Speaker 1: alleged to be instructional time. My problem here is is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, well, on several on several fronts, the first
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  Speaker 1: of which, the first of which, quite frankly, is that
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  Speaker 1: schools kind of suck. I mean, you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: making an overwhelming indictment of every school, every teacher, every system,
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  Speaker 1: every board of education. I'm saying, as a general rule,
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  Speaker 1: we're we're not educating the way we should be, and
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  Speaker 1: we are programming, we are indoctrinating, we are we are
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  Speaker 1: we are manipulating way too often in the public school system.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know quite frankly, that giving the kids
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  Speaker 1: more required hours within that system would do them any good.
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  Speaker 1: It actually could be detrimental as far as their developments
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  Speaker 1: as reasonable human beings. I don't know, Zach, You've got
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  Speaker 1: a youngster, I mean, so far, he's too young to
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  Speaker 1: really be too twisted by the school system. But can
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  Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying here? Does it?
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  Speaker 3: I do?
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  Speaker 2: But I also got something from a teacher that's basically
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  Speaker 2: said that we don't need more hours. We need to
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  Speaker 2: change the way the years organize learning loss is real.
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  Speaker 2: Sending kids home for eight weeks in the summer, is
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  Speaker 2: it the best idea? We should go year round, four quarters,
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  Speaker 2: two weeks break in between courters.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with that. That kind of thing, I agree
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  Speaker 1: with that, and especial maybe extended breaks around the holidays.
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  Speaker 1: I mean for the travel is okay, what's a holiday.
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  Speaker 2: Because good day for Christmas?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, Ebenezer, you know you got to take
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  Speaker 1: some time off for Christmas. You gotta and keep it
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  Speaker 1: the same. This is another problem we have with the
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  Speaker 1: school system today. And I think it's more to accommodate,
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  Speaker 1: you know, teachers unions and contract negotiations and making sure
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  Speaker 1: you get to your summer break as soon as possible
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  Speaker 1: than anything else. But it really screws things up because
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  Speaker 1: the typical June July August summer vacation, when family could
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  Speaker 1: plan here's when we'll go to the lake and get
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  Speaker 1: the cabin or whatever. You can't do that anymore because
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  Speaker 1: man schools start in you know, mid to late August.
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  Speaker 1: Kids are out in June or May instead of June.
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  Speaker 1: And it just it's it jumps around too often. I've
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  Speaker 1: told the story years ago my daughter. My daughter, when
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  Speaker 1: she was in high school, came home the first day
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  Speaker 1: from school with a bag of Anthony Thomas candy bars
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  Speaker 1: to sell as a fundraiser. Nobody talked to me about that.
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  Speaker 2: Wait they started on the first day. I thought they
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  Speaker 2: waited a bit.
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  Speaker 1: The first day they sent her home with the Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Thomas candy bars, and I'm called to school, like, what
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  Speaker 1: are you doing? It's our fundraiser who told you to
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  Speaker 1: send them home? Well, we send them home with all
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  Speaker 1: the kids. And who's responsible if the child eats them
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  Speaker 1: on the way home, loses them, gives them away, gets
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  Speaker 1: beat up, and they're taken. Who has to pay for
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  Speaker 1: this bag of candy bars? Well, we would ask the
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  Speaker 1: parent to do that. And this is why you need
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  Speaker 1: my permission. Her senior pictures that year were also scheduled
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  Speaker 1: or her school picture. They weren't senior pictures. Her school
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  Speaker 1: pictures were scheduled like two and a half weeks before
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  Speaker 1: the first day of school, which I just found stupid.
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  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, we're definitely in school.
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  Speaker 1: We took no this. They had to go to like
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  Speaker 1: two and a half weeks before and and and you
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  Speaker 1: had to pay for your prom tickets at the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of the year, which also included the yearbook fee. Even
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  Speaker 1: if you didn't want to go to the prom, you
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  Speaker 1: had to pay for the prom tickets if you just
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  Speaker 1: wanted a yearbook and vice versa.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't go to prom, so I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: that worked.
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  Speaker 1: So ridiculous so ridiculous. This is this is what we uh,
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  Speaker 1: what we see passing for, you know, the education system today,
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  Speaker 1: not not necessarily teachers, but the education system. And again,
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  Speaker 1: this bill would increase the number of hours that our
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  Speaker 1: children are exposed to this stupidity. Now, what kind of answer,
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  Speaker 1: what kind of answer would you expect from the teachers'
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  Speaker 1: unions on this? You think they'd say, oh, yes, this
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  Speaker 1: is good, we can educate more, we can inductor eate more,
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  Speaker 1: we can Adding hours to the calendar does not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: translate into more instructional time or better outcomes, sat Melissa Cooper,
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  Speaker 1: president of the Ohio Federation of Teachers. I'll bet you.
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  Speaker 1: I'll bet you, Melissa would say, but passing another levee
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  Speaker 1: and throwing more money at the teachers so we can
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  Speaker 1: increase their dues would help a great deal. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: but that is like the most unreasonable response I could
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  Speaker 1: Adding hours to the calendar doesn't necessarily translate into more
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  Speaker 1: instructional time or better outcomes. But every time they want
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  Speaker 1: to justify we got to pass the levee. We need
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  Speaker 1: another one hundred and eighty dollars a year from you
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  Speaker 1: on your property taxes. We got to pass this levee
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  Speaker 1: or we're gonna have to close. The football team and
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  Speaker 1: the marching band will just have to hum and uh,
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  Speaker 1: and the drill team will have to use you know,
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  Speaker 1: non powered hand drills and uh and uh, and the
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  Speaker 1: teachers will have bad breath. It'll be terrible if you
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  Speaker 1: don't pass this levee. And so they always want to
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  Speaker 1: throw money at it. But the concept of more hours
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  Speaker 1: during the school day is immediately dismissed as making it
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity. That's again, that's sad. That shows you where
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  Speaker 1: their heads are, where their priorities are, where their mindset is.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in agreement that I wouldn't want my kids right
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  Speaker 1: now in the schools longer then they have to be
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  Speaker 1: at the current time. I think the intentions behind House
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  Speaker 1: Bill one forty five are good. I just don't think
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  Speaker 1: our education system is deserving of more hours. With the
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  Speaker 1: young minds that you know, face it, most of us
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  Speaker 1: are trying to get them to grow up somewhat close
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  Speaker 1: to what we know to be normal. And when you
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  Speaker 1: are dealing with situations where schools are apologizing because they
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  Speaker 1: have to call your child by their name, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: just not the time, or again, maybe that's just me
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  Speaker 1: eight two one nine eight eighty six. You get a
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  Speaker 1: few minutes here left before I have to go eight
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  Speaker 1: two one WTVN or eight hundred six' TEN, wtvn especially
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  Speaker 1: if you've got kids in school right, NOW i would
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  Speaker 1: love to know what you. THINK i, mean, again if
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  Speaker 1: the day is, LONGER i don't know how they would
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  Speaker 1: plan on doing this, either making longer school. Days what
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  Speaker 1: are they going to make? Them what are they going
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  Speaker 1: to make because high school starts at like seven point thirty,
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  Speaker 1: now so will the kids get out a couple hours
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  Speaker 1: later or? Something, okay, well how does that interfere with
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  Speaker 1: maybe the daycare pickup of the other, kids or the
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  Speaker 1: school bus arrivals or picking up other kids at the,
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  Speaker 1: school or dinner time or you, know dad works one,
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  Speaker 1: shift mom works another shift or. Whatever you. Know that
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  Speaker 1: could be a big inconvenience, too couldn't. It So i'm
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  Speaker 1: just SAYING a two one nine at eighty SIX a
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  Speaker 1: two ONE Wtv AND i never know About zach's, spelling
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  Speaker 1: Because zach has no spelling ability at, all BUT i
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  Speaker 1: think this is. Shanikwa are you on SIXTN wtv in.
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  Speaker 3: One? Percent. Track you're so. Silly you're saying that teachers
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  Speaker 3: would rather not have their kids in. School do you
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  Speaker 3: know how Learning MAYBE i already Texted zach and said
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  Speaker 3: that learning loss is a real, thing but they's not
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  Speaker 3: a time that we spend reteaching students because of learning
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  Speaker 3: loss is. Insane so, yes the more time in, school
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  Speaker 3: the better off for the, students the easier it is
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  Speaker 3: for the teachers to do their.
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  Speaker 1: Jobs, well you're you're you're, Contradicting you're Contradicting Melissa, cooper
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  Speaker 1: president of The Ohio federation Of, teachers not. Me that's
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  Speaker 1: What Melissa. Cooper that's What Melissa cooper. Said adding hours
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  Speaker 1: to the calendar does not necessarily translate in more instructional
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  Speaker 1: time or better.
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  Speaker 3: OUTCOMES i would love to hear her research on that
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  Speaker 3: and where she's getting her numbers from and any type
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  Speaker 3: of research behind what she is, saying because the research
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  Speaker 3: would indicate that if you are in school teaching students every,
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  Speaker 3: day that is how learning. Occurs and so every time
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  Speaker 3: we sudden kids, home they are not. Learning AND i
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  Speaker 3: don't know what you're talking about in doctrinating, students BECAUSE
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  Speaker 3: i think the biggest argument that you hear, consistently is
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  Speaker 3: that we're trying to get kids to turn in papers
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  Speaker 3: or pick up a, pencil like there's no time to
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  Speaker 3: do crazy things that we hear that the teachers are
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  Speaker 3: doing all the. Time it's so, educationist, Silly.
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  Speaker 1: SHITIKA i wish you would have called closer to the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the show because you AND i could have
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  Speaker 1: had a very long involved AND i think good. CONVERSATION
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  Speaker 1: i need more callers Like shitiqua