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Transform Your Look: Wigs Deconstructed · Chatting with The Experts with Paula Okonneh

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Hello, hello, hello everyone, and welcome to another episode
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of Chatting with the Experts.
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With me, Paula Okonneh, the host where I speak with amazing women from Africa,
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from the Caribbean, and in the diaspora.
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These women are professionals and they are successful entrepreneurs and they
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share my mission, which is to educate, to inspire and empower women globally.
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Today is gonna be a fun, fun episode.
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We are talking about wigs and the title of the show is Wigs Deconstructed.
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My guest who will be joining me in a few minutes says, you know, ooh.
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She's like, let's learn all about wigs.
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And I'll tell you her story, which is wrapped up with her bio.
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She started after she had the worst hair experience in her life.
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She said a colorist completely destroyed her wig, leaving it over-bleached,
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fried, and then ghosted her with zero help or even an apology.
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She was so annoyed and had no clue on how to fix it.
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So the thing is, she'd always been obsessed with, she says
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obsessed, that's not my word.
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She's always been obsessed with beauty and loves everything about getting ready and
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looking good, and she always looks good.
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So instead of just being mad about her hair, she decided she
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would figure it out herself.
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So she dove head first into learning everything about hair
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extensions, about coloring, layering.
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Basically, she became a total hair nerd.
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So what started as her just trying to save her own hair, turned into something
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bigger when she realized how many women also go through the same thing.
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So her business, Mane By Niro, is all about helping people.
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Women in particular, look amazing with whatever they're working with.
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So there's no gatekeeping, no complicated stuff, just good
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wigs and extension for women who want to look and feel their best.
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And with that, I mean, wasn't that an amazing story?
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I wanna welcome Orinayo Ayodele to Chatting with the Experts.
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Orin, what a story that was.
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Oh my gosh.
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When I read it, I was tickled, but at the same time I said, wow, you
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know, this is what has launched, made you become the entrepreneur.
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That now what you wanna share with people the backstory, the good wigs,
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the bad wigs, and everything that they used to know about wigs, right?
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Yes, everything that there is, I have been a victim of bad wigs.
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I now sell good wigs, everything in between.
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So I've been on the journey that lots of women also have when
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they're looking to buy a wig.
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Well, with real transparency, I want you all to know that this wig is from her.
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I've never been a hair person.
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She's always been a hair person.
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And I've known her since she was five.
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And she said to me, auntie, I've known you like all my life.
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Yeah.
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Like my daughter.
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And so when I was having, well, one of my many bad hair days, I
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thought, why am I not patronizing my, I'll call her my niece for this.
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I need to get something good.
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And she sent me this.
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And that's what I wear now.
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Doesn't it look good?
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Orin, you have to say yes.
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Yes, of course.
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I mean, of course I think it looks good, but yes, I think it really
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flattens your skin tone as well.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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You did a fantastic job.
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So we are gonna be talking about wigs, glueless wigs, custom colored wigs, raw
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hair, all the things that I don't know.
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And I've been learning from her and I still don't know it, but I thought, wow,
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if I don't know it, there may be so many people like me and so many other women
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like me who don't have a clue about wigs.
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So I'm turning it over to you.
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What is a glueless wig?
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Orin?
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So this is a glueless wig, for example.
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So whenever people wear wigs, a lot of times they think they have to
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glue it down or they have to spray it down so that their wig will stay
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on the head and it won't fly off.
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But I make all of my wigs custom to a customer's head size.
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And then I also have a band in the wigs so that you can also tighten
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it or loosen it however you want.
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So this is a completely glueless wig.
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If you see, like, if I lift it up and then.
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You can see the lace also blends well with my skin tone because
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mm-hmm.
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I actually like to keep a little bit more of the lace on my wig
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when I cut the excess lace off.
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It makes it look a bit realistic and I also always tint the lace,
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but it always starts with great HD lace though some people are
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like, oh, but you can see my lace.
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It's probably because you bought a wig with not good HD lace, and
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that was like one of my missions is that lots of people are busy.
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I'm busy, I have the nine to five, I have a business.
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I don't always have time to, you know, to do the spray, the glue,
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the melt band, all of the things.
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So I need lace that I can just put on the couch, put on my head and be good to go.
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So that's why I was in search of like really amazing HD lace and
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that's how I came up with this.
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And I found a vendor and we've been set since.
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Alright.
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HD lace.
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So there's lace and there's HD lace, and they're all in between.
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I mean, wow.
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Again, another lesson.
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What is HD lace?
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Is it a special type of lace?
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So HD lace, if I take one of my wigs with the lace still on, is the thinnest
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lace that you're going to get when it comes to a closure or frontal.
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Okay.
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There's also transparent lace, which tends to be a bit wider and a bit thicker.
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So HD lace, all types of lace has its pros and cons.
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So HD lace is the thinnest, so it's going to melt the most with your
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skin tone, but it can be fragile.
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But when I say it's fragile, like if you're just like tugging your wig
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by the lace, you're likely to, like tear the lace, but I haven't really
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had issues with tearing the lace.
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But I also, like my wigs are investments, so I take the time
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to really take care of them.
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So when I put on my wigs, I can also just show you.
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Pls do.
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but I always start putting on, like if I take it off, I always start from the back.
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So this will the elastic band I was talking about.
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Mm-hmm.
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So I always start with putting my wig on from the back.
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Mm-hmm.
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And then I can adjust it.
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I hold it by the hair, not the lace, because once again, the lace is fragile
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and that is how, so if you have really good HD lace, you're able to like actually
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see and have it melt into your skin.
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Oh, okay.
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I need to, yes, let people see that I am looking and like wow.
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Wow.
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Yes.
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It melts into your skin.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So melting it into your skin.
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So you have to color it a bit though so that it matches your skin tone.
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Yeah, so what I typically use is a lace tint mousse.
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You can use a lace tint spray.
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Some people like foundation, but think about it like when you put
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foundation on your like skin, it does add like a layer to your skin.
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That's just what foundation is.
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So when you put that on your lace, you are adding an additional layer to
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the lace so it can sort of look bulky.
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So I highly recommend that if you want to tint your lace, you use
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specific lace tinting products.
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So lace tint mousse, or lace tint spray is what I would highly suggest.
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I'm writing all of this down because I have never heard of it.
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Lace tint mousse and spray.
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So not foundation.
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Yes.
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So if you really want your lace to melt well and you don't want excess fabric
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or like excess products in your hair, use lace tint mousse or lace tint spray.
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Okay, so there's something, before you took off the wig,
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you talked about your edge.
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I'm not gonna show you my edge because I don't know how to, any of what she said.
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I got the wig and my niece living with me help me do it.
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So you said something about the side.
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What is, you said you keep some of the lace to the side?
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Yes.
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Is that what you're saying?
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So some of the like excess lace.
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So if you can see, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pin you one second.
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So keep talking.
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Alright, go ahead.
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Okay.
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So where you see my hairline actually starts, the hair actually
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starts here, but I keep the lace, like I keep a little bit of lace.
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So that there is, you can have the excess fabric.
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So when, if you think about your own hair, like if you were to look at
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your hairline, it like, sort of like goes like up and down and it like
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transitions from your skin to your hair.
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Mm-hmm.
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So that is sort of the purpose of the lace.
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You don't want it to be just like a straight transition
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from here to your hairline.
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Mm-hmm.
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So the lace is sort of like an extension of your skin and where your hair is,
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because sometimes your hair is not, like, grows directly from there.
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So I think that is a trick most people tend to skip, is that they
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cut exactly where the hairline is.
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But next time if you get a wig, just cut a little in front of the
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hairline and it will blend seamlessly.
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So that means I need to get another wig from you?
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Yes, I think so.
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Oh, I need to get another wig out.
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We talk about it offline, what color that wig should be.
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I really enjoy this one.
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Ooh, I never thought I would like long.
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How many inches is this?
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20?
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I think it was 18 or 20.
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I can't remember.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Yes.
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When I say I have no clue about hair, this has been of not
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knowing anything over here.
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I have depended upon stylists and other people 'cause hair is not my thing.
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Other things, I like technology, but not hair.
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I like hair but I don't know how to do it.
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Alright, so, okay.
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HD lace.
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Yes.
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Lace tint, mousse and spray and, oh, I know something, something about plucking.
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You have to pluck.
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Yes.
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You pluck the hair or you pluck the hairline of the wig?
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What do you do?
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So you actually pluck some of the hair out of the hairline.
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So whenever you get a wig from like a vendor that I would get the wig from the
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vendor, it's going to look like this.
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Mm-hmm.
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This is actually a little plucked already.
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Sometimes it will be a little fuller, so you just want to like going back to
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our natural hairline, it's not fully dense all in one area, so you just
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want it to sort of mimic the hairline.
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Sometimes it's dense in some areas, it's a bit sparse in others, so you just want
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it to sort of mimic the natural hairline.
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I prefer a fuller hairline, so I don't pluck my hairline that much.
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Some people really, really like plucking their hairline.
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There's been a new trend like the Lagos hairline, the rig hairline, but
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for me, you pluck a lot of hair out of your closure or frontal, you are either
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going to have to get a new closure every time you want to install it.
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And those are definitely not glueless if you're doing the Lagos
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or rig hairline or you're gonna have to ventilate it all the time.
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So I say, pluck lightly.
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And the hair, like of course like hair naturally sheds anyway, so the
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hair from the hairline will also shed.
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But yes, as I said, I like a fuller hairline.
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Okay.
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Pluck lightly.
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I'll get a new wig.
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Gonna get a new wig.
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We are gonna come on Zoom and you're gonna show me.
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Okay.
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And my niece who helps me so.
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Well, she's great at this.
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Yes.
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How to do this.
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I can always, like when I send out the wigs, I can pluck it for you.
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I can cut the lace off.
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All of the things that, like being a small business, you can really
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customize the wig to each customer.
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So yeah.
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Okay, so you can customize 'cause I sent you all my head
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measurements so you have that.
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Yes.
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And then most of my wigs are made with a sewing machine.
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Some people like prefer hand sew, so they can also just type it in on my website.
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I would prefer a hand sew wig, but if you don't request, they're
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automatically machine-made.
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Uh.
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So you can request whether it should be handmade or machine-made.
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Exactly.
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And the, okay, so explain the handmade is more customized than
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the machine-made, obviously, right?
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Not necessarily.
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So it was.
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I'm learning again.
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So it is all about like the measurements you take beforehand.
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Some people say that like hand sewn wigs, they fit better.
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Mm-hmm.
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Some people say machine sewn.
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So it really is like a preference thing.
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And then also if you know how to sew, you can make a hand sewn wig like
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that is, but you also have to sort of, it's a learning curve to learn
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how to make a wig on a sewing machine.
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Mm-hmm.
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But it really is like, I have hand sew wigs, I have machine-made wigs.
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It is all a preference things.
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The most important part is getting a wig cap that is
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actually the size of your head.
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So the one of the most important.
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Measurements that you will take is your circumference.
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So most people's circumference is either 21, 22, 23.
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Of course you have smaller than that, you have bigger than that.
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And the average size is 22.
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So I have wig heads for each head size, but then I will put the wig
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cap on and then I will use the measurements from each wig head.
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Okay, so now you guys.
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This aunty doesn't know anything about hair.
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No, you said wig cap.
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I thought it was the one that I ordered on Amazon.
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That's not the wig cap you're talking about now when you're talking about 21,
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22, 23 or you're talking about wig cap that you actually saw the hair onto.
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Is that what you're referring to?
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Oh, they're they actually are both wig caps.
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Mm-hmm.
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So, there are sort of the HD wig cap.
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That is what you typically wear under your wig.
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Mm-hmm.
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And then the black mesh cap is usually what wigs are made on.
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Ah.
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Mm-hmm.
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Told you I'm learning.
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So there's a black mesh cap that we use for making the wigs, and then there's
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the wig cap that we buy commercially from Amazon or wherever a beauty store.
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You can buy wig caps as well on Amazon.
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And then if you really wanna get into wig caps, you can get a mesh
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wig caps, you can get dome caps.
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You can have ventilated caps.
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So it's just a whole thing like if I show you.
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So I also have like half wigs and so I want my half wigs to mimic like
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sew-ins, quick weaves and everything.
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So I actually use a ventilated cap for these.
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And so this is what a ventilated cap actually will look like.
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Okay.
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So it is, , you can see right there.
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So it's very light, very breathable.
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So it really does help like mimic the sew-in quick weave look, and then
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all the half wigs don't have lace, so it's just clip it in and then
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you can leave your front hair out.
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And so you get sew-in, quick weave, but for a fraction of
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the time spent installing.
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Okay, now I pinned you so that they could see, you know, what
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you were just demonstrating.
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Another question, I'm gonna, what is a half wig?
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Is this a whole wig?
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Yeah, so this is a lace wig, so it has lace on it, but a half wig has like,
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so when you have a lace wig, you have the lace and you have the bundles.
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Mm-hmm.
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So a half wig just has the bundles.
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Oh, so it's just the bundles that are part of this half wig.
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So there's the new trend.
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It's not a new trend because all trends are coming back, but a lot of people are
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now getting more into the natural look.
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They want to move away from lace.
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They don't want to like, have to take all the time to customize
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the lace and they want leave out.
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For me, I don't like sleeping in wigs.
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I don't like sleeping with anything on my hair, and so I really also like the
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look of leave out, but I don't want to sewing in my head because of the tension.
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I don't wanna quick weave because of the glue.
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So half wigs are really the best option.
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So I get to get that bundle look.
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I get a very, I guess leave out very little of my leave out so I can fake
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a sewing look and then gonna take the wig off at night when I go to sleep.
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So you're talking now, oh my gosh.
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Oh, hey.
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A wig 101.
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This is one, not even 101, 001.
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You're talking about, you said to take the wig off at that
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people sleep with their wigs.
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Yes.
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Especially if they have glued their frontal or closure on, they
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definitely sleep with their wigs.
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Mm-hmm.
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Okay.
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Said, this is for me.
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0 0 1, not 1 0 1.
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Alright, so we've learned about glueless wigs.
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Let's talk about raw hair.
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Yes.
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So there's raw hair.
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Can raw hair be human hair and also synthetic hair.
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Do you have raw hair that's synthetic?
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No.
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So there's all sorts.
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There's so much terminology now that like what one thing used to
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mean doesn't mean anything now.
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So,
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mm-hmm.
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There's really two classifications of hair, either human hair or synthetic hair.
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Synthetic hair is made from plastic.
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And then there is human hair.
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It can either be raw hair or virgin hair and virgin hair also, the virgin used to
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mean raw, but now virgin means processed.
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So when you think about it, but raw means like unprocessed hair.
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So cut straight from a donor's head.
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That is what raw hair means.
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Mm-hmm.
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So just like if somebody cut hair off of your head, your hair is raw.
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And then like, let's say somebody cut hair off my head and cut hair off of
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yours and then put it in a machine to mix them up together so that they
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could be the same sort of quality.
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That would be virgin hair.
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So virgin hair is still human hair.
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It's just from multiple donors taken through a process.
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And there's nothing wrong with virgin hair, but because I custom
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color a lot of my wigs and then it's takes better to custom colors.
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And then also raw hair does tend to last much longer than virgin hair
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because if you've already processed the hair, then it shortens the lifespan.
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And then also virgin hair can mean lower hair.
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So essentially that is like if you go into a salon and all the hair that has
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fallen from people's head throughout the day, then people can take that
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machine, take all that hair, put in a machine cuticle and make it cuticle
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aligned, and then also sell that.
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So if you ever see someone selling cheap human hair and a lot of Amazon wigs, a
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lot of Ali Express wigs are floor hair.
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So it is floor that's been gathered from multiple, multiple donors put in
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like a bleach acid bath to strip the cuticles, cuticle, critically aligned.
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So technically you are getting human hair, but that hair is not good quality
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because the hair would've been in all sorts of places and everything.
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So, I highly recommend not buying hair from Amazon or Ali Express.
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I know sometimes people are on a budget, but it actually works out cheaper in the
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long run to just buy one high quality hair or wig than constantly having
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to rebuy on Amazon or Ali Express.
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Oh my gosh.
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I'm looking like this floor hair, hair that you know when you go to
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the salon, people all types of hair.
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People have dandruff, people have all sorts of other hair.
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You know, your hair depends on how you take care of your hair.
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That's what they're using for the virgin
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process hair.
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Yuck.
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Yes.
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But everything comes at a cost.
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So if you want cheap hair, that's often what your hair is from.
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So it may even be, I guess everything has its pros and cons,
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and the synthetic one is plastic.
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Yes.
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You said that's not floor hair at all, but it has its own, I guess cons
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is the, tell me a bit about that.
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So I have never really worn synthetic hair, so I actually
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am not an expert on that.
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Okay.
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But I mean, synthetic hair has its place that if you want a style, that
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style is going to remain that style for as long as the synthetic hair lasts.
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Whether that's six months, whether that's a year, that's great because like
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oftentimes with like raw hair, because it's raw, you're constantly having to
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style it 'cause it's somebody's real hair.
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Like nobody's hair stays curly all the time.
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Nobody's hair stays bone straight.
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So synthetic hair, you're able, if you get a curly wig, it is going to be
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curly until you can't wear it anymore.
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But also because it's synthetic, the ends start rubbing together,
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it becomes very dry and tangled.
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So once again, you can't have a synthetic wig.
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I don't think you can have a synthetic wig for longer than
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a year, but some people do.
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But if you want to just like try out color or style very quickly,
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then sure, get a synthetic wig.
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But I don't believe in those.
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Now I know this, I'm gonna stick with raw hair because the,
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yeah.
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Virgin one, it's, to me, this is my opinion.
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It's yuckier to me.
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The thing that is floor hair.
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Yuckier.
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And then the synthetic one.
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Hmm.
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Sometimes you don't know what other chemicals have been in that, so.
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Hmm.
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That is true.
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So talking about color, because you mentioned that if you want you in
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your opinion, and you said you're not expert in synthetic hair, but
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like if you wanna play around with color, so that may be a good option.
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I guess it's cheaper to, let's talk about custom colored wigs because I
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know that's, this is custom colored.
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I sent you colors that I want, not colors.
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I sent just style and I said I wanted to match my skin tone and I got this.
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Beautiful.
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Yeah.
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Beautiful wig.
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Talk to us about that.
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Yes.
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So, I actually spent most of last year taking like coloring classes, layering
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classes styling classes because it was really important that you can learn
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a lot of things via like, YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, but actually
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learning from a professional, there's just not gonna be anything like that.
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And for me this business is not a get money quickly.
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It's really investing the time, and I want all of my customers and
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anybody who buys wigs for me to know that I invest my time and my money
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learning how to custom color wigs.
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And so for me that includes learning about highlights, balayage what?
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Bleach is good.
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What developer?
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What goes with what different undertones, skin tones and everything.
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And then also what are like really high quality toners that will, , preserve the
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hair, but also like reflect and keep the hair and the shininess and everything.
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So that is all that goes into custom colors.
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So it's not just slapping bleach on the hair and then waiting for it to get to
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this like blonde that you can think of.
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It is also placement on the wigs.
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So like if somebody has their hair down, will the like highlights
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fall in the right place?
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Will they have a money piece, which is like the bright blonde?
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I can also change to one of my custom colored wigs.
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Please do while you're doing that.
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Yep.
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So this one is, I believe that like golden tones look amazing on everyone.
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So this is my golden niro wig and I will put it on.
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So once again, putting it from the, this is also another one where,
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as you can see the fabric I kept.
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And this is, so this is the money piece I was talking about.
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And then also the roots of the wig are brown, and then they
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transition to this golden color.
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So also.
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Knowing where to place the roots money piece highlight
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so that it looks well blended.
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So you want to, your hair should always look well blended.
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I shouldn't see any, like, chunky lines.
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I shouldn't see where the roots end and then the color starts.
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Like everything should just be one seamless look.
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Ooh, this is nice.
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This is really nice.
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Do you have another one you can show us?
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You, I know you are wearing the black one.
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This one is, yes.
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And then I also, this one is pinned, but I also just wanna show you how,
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like, if you're really going for the like baba room, this is like my, like
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chocolate, but this is how I pin curl it.
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And if I want to have like bangs with volume, I will
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leave it in rollers, pin it up.
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So yes, that is what I do, the wig, first wig I was wearing was jet black.
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This is blonde, that is brown.
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I tend to stick to the like warmer browns, blonde, jet black.
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So yes, that is where I really focus on with my, Mane by Niro.
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Wow.
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This is a class and a half.
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Woo, you said, aha.
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I took a note here.
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What is the money piece?
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You talked about money piece and you showed it with this.
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You demonstrated it.
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Okay.
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What does that mean?
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So you can see.
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You see how this piece is brighter than the rest of the hair?
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Mm-hmm.
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Like this specifically, like just So the money piece is just like the
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two front pieces in your wig that are brighter than everywhere else.
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So it's just adds like a little pop of, so you can see like it goes from.
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The money piece to the, like, what the rest of the hair looks like.
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So the money piece typically looks a bit different than
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what the rest of the hair is.
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And it's probably the like brightest part of the hair just like pops in your face.
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So that's where the money comes in.
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Money.
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Yeah.
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Yes, the money piece.
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Yeah.
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I love this allegory.
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Okay folks.
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Ooh, you know, we have people waiting in the audience to ask question, but
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this is also gonna be on YouTube.
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So for someone who's not in the audience and is viewing this, I'm sure
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if they're like me, they're learning so much, they may be, how do I get in
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touch with this amazing young lady?
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How can people get in touch with you?
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You can pretty much find me anywhere.
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So you can go on my website manebyniro.com.
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I have a signature collection, so these already wigs with the colors
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that I designed, but also if you don't see a color that you want,
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you can always fill out my form.
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Which is like design a wig and then we can go back and forth, talk about
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your inspiration style and everything.
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You can email me at info@manebyniro and manebyniro is M-A-N-E-B-Y-N-I-R-O.com.
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You can also find me on Instagram and TikTok Mane By Niro.
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I'll drop all of this in the chat so that people who are in the
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audience can actually get it.
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So, and reach out to you, whether by, on Instagram, TikTok,
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email or or go to your website.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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I can't believe you've been speaking almost 30 minutes.
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And so for those of you who are in the audience, well, you can
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ask me questions that or ask Orin questions that I haven't asked her.
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But if you wanna be a guest on the show, reach out to me on my website,
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which is chattingwiththeexperts.com.
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You can also connect with me on LinkedIn.
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Just look for Paula Okonneh, on LinkedIn.
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I'm on Instagram and my handle there is at chat_experts_podcast.
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I'm also on Facebook.
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It's taken me a while.
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I've said so, so many other episodes that Facebook and I were not friends.
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I'm gradually getting there and I have a YouTube channel, which
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is Chatting with the Experts.
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You can please subscribe to us there and we all, every week.
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Every week I have a new episode out on YouTube and now we are going to
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open up the floor to all of you who joined us so that all the questions
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that this lady here didn't ask you can ask Orin because she is amazing.
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Thank you Orin, for saying yes.
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When I reached out to you that I noticed.
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Yes.
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Thank you for saying yes.
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You could have said, no, auntie, this is not for me.
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But you said, of course, those were your words, and I was like, yes, I
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can get to learn and share what you have, what you know with my audience.
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Thank you again.
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Thank you.