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FSU Expert EXPOSES Good News for Seminoles before Clemson Tigers vs Florida State Football · ACC Football Addiction (Atlantic Coast Conference)

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  Speaker 1: Let's go to Clemson and Florida State in the ACC.
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  Speaker 1: This is presented by PrizePix. Florida State comes in with
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  Speaker 1: a losing record at 3-4. Clemson comes in with a
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  Speaker 1: winning record at 4-3. However, the Seminoles are favored by
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  Speaker 1: about a touchdown in this game. I will toss it
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  Speaker 1: up to whoever wants it. I've shared my thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: this a few times, but what questions do you guys have?
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  Speaker 1: What thoughts do you guys have on the Seminoles and Tigers?
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  Speaker 2: Is this just a game of who sucks less.
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  Speaker 3: To a degree?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably like it's the old adage of football, like
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  Speaker 2: whoever makes the least mistakes wins.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: What if both teams are capable of making a lot
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  Speaker 2: of mistakes and there's a lot of penalties because these
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  Speaker 2: are two teams that have struggled with that throughout the season.
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  Speaker 2: I give credit to Florida state having this game at home.
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  Speaker 2: You played Miami real tight into overtime, which surprised a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people. But there's these high-end peaks like the
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  Speaker 2: first half against Alabama and the aforementioned Miami game that
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  Speaker 2: make you look at Florida State and be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: they could be feisty all of a sudden. And then
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  Speaker 2: there's these low-end performances that really make you scratch your head. Clemson, meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: does this feel like just a dead team walking at
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  Speaker 2: this point? Guys, I said in the offseason with this team,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I hate this quarterback room. And it's
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  Speaker 2: not good with Tate Reynolds. I don't think with Vazina
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  Speaker 2: it's any better. This is just who Clemson is this season.
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  Speaker 2: There's NFL talent. This is kind of similar to the
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State. How does Fahey get the ball to Jeremiah Smith?
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  Speaker 2: How does any quarterback at Clemson get the ball to
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  Speaker 2: Wesco or Moore when those guys are clearly NFL talents
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  Speaker 2: and are just being wasted at this point in time?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like two teams in an exercise in futility,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know. This game being in Tallahassee, I
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  Speaker 2: think could tip it.
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  Speaker 3: Cole, I don't know what you think.
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  Speaker 2: This is a weird one.
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  Speaker 4: The status at the very beginning of the game is
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  Speaker 4: the reason how Clemson will have to win this. Defense,
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  Speaker 4: special teams, defense, special teams, defense, special teams. TJ, I
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  Speaker 4: want your opinion on this before I say, and I
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  Speaker 4: sound stupid.
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  Speaker 3: Fire Mike Norvell. Well, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Not that. Not that. Not that.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that's what you were asking.
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  Speaker 4: Not that.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: Do you include the interception in the double overtime game
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  Speaker 4: against Miami against Ashton Daniels?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: Just want to make sure. Can I add a little
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  Speaker 3: more context too?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of his intercept, he's had two
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  Speaker 1: that were tipped, which tipped interceptions happen.
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  Speaker 3: He's not the only quarterback to have that. And in
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  Speaker 3: the Bama game, one was tipped.
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  Speaker 1: One was down two scores with two minutes to go.
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  Speaker 1: And then one was just a terrible read. So like his,
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  Speaker 1: his interception, like, I'm not trying to do like the,
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  Speaker 1: I saw an article when Jameis threw 30, like broke
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  Speaker 1: them down and they were like, Oh, 14 of them
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  Speaker 1: weren't his fault. And I was like, I love that guy,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not trying to do that. But like, I,
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of his interceptions would be been because,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're not really. So yeah, no, I don't,
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  Speaker 1: I don't, the Miami one's fine.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Fourth and 20 something. And you're just throwing a Hail
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  Speaker 1: Mary in the end zone. Like I have no problems
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  Speaker 1: with that.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know. even convinced it wasn't interception, but.
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  Speaker 4: The point is, is that if you take out that
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  Speaker 4: interception and the game against SMU, he has had at
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  Speaker 4: least one turnover per game. So that's just the bottom line,
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  Speaker 4: whether it be a tip ball, whether it be throwing
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  Speaker 4: in a double coverage, he's had an interception every single game.
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  Speaker 4: So for Clemson in this one, with Ashton Hampton, with
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  Speaker 4: what they got in their secondary, how they can win
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  Speaker 4: with some blitz packages, they need to pressure Ashton Daniels
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  Speaker 4: to throw or overthrow his target. Whether it be Halsey,
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  Speaker 4: whether it be Deuce Robinson, you've got to overthrow your
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  Speaker 4: target to find an open defensive back to make a
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  Speaker 4: play and get short field position for the offense. The
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  Speaker 4: problem is that I just don't know if you can
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  Speaker 4: get anything going with your offense in this game either. Again,
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  Speaker 4: Tate Reynolds, going into last week, had one passing touchdown. Combined,
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  Speaker 4: I believe if I'm not mistaken, Clemson had three passing
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  Speaker 4: touchdowns on the year. And you still have really good
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  Speaker 4: wide receivers and more in Wesco that can get on
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  Speaker 4: open and make plays. But Florida State's secondary, when it
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  Speaker 4: wants to play well, it can. It can create opportunities.
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  Speaker 4: It can create situations. They know how to blitz really
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  Speaker 4: well at times and get pressure on a quarterback into
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  Speaker 4: making mistakes. So it's like, for me, this game is
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  Speaker 4: going to come down to, can you force Ashton Daniels
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  Speaker 4: to make mistakes and give you short field position? And
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  Speaker 4: if you're Clemson, getting short field position, not doing anything
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  Speaker 4: that will shoot yourself in the foot and take you
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  Speaker 4: out of field goal range to where you can at
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  Speaker 4: least walk away with positive points. Because if you're asking
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  Speaker 4: me right now, even when you have your questions of
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  Speaker 4: this team, which by the way, Florida State's offense has
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  Speaker 4: not been as big as a problem as I think
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  Speaker 4: that we all thought going into the year. Now, what
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  Speaker 4: they do in the running back position now with two
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  Speaker 4: of their guys out for the rest of the season,
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  Speaker 4: it's a big deal. But regardless, it's been better than
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  Speaker 4: advertised with Mike Norvell calling plays in moments. If you're
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  Speaker 4: asking me which team do I trust to go down
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  Speaker 4: the field in 75 yards and at least walk away
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  Speaker 4: with three points, it's going to be Florida State. So
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  Speaker 4: you need to be able to get as much short
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  Speaker 4: field position to set up field goals, and maybe you
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  Speaker 4: get a couple of breakaway runs from Davison, or you
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  Speaker 4: get one pass that goes off to Wesco, and it's
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  Speaker 4: the short game that turns into a 40-yard house call.
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  Speaker 4: That's the way that Clemson's going to win this game offensively,
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  Speaker 4: with explosives and some sheer dumb luck, and really, really,
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  Speaker 4: really short field position. So defensively, yeah, I think that
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  Speaker 4: you're going to see Clemson showing up in this game.
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  Speaker 4: But if you're getting a punt and you're starting at
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  Speaker 4: the 20, I mean, you might as well just go
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  Speaker 4: ahead and take three knees at that point. That way
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  Speaker 4: you don't have a turnover and just give it right
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  Speaker 4: back to Florida State.
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  Speaker 1: I struggle to see, you know, obviously I have all
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  Speaker 1: But if we're just talking about the game specifically, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I have to preface this every week with
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  Speaker 1: Florida state stuff. But if we're just talking about the
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  Speaker 1: game specifically, I struggle to see a world where Clemson
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  Speaker 1: can score 20 more than 24. And, and, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: low on Florida state's defense. Like I don't think they're
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  Speaker 1: very good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They gave up nine straight scoring drives to Bama in Tuscaloosa.
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  Speaker 1: Home and away does matter, but then they were awful
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  Speaker 1: against Louisville after those first two possessions. Gave up a
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  Speaker 1: ton to Louisville on the road. Miami scored touchdowns on
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  Speaker 1: four of their last five possessions. The only one they
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  Speaker 1: didn't score on was the end of the half one
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  Speaker 1: where they knew worst case that thing was going down.
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  Speaker 3: To overtime if they didn't score.
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  Speaker 1: So I think Miami kind of played that conservatively because
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  Speaker 1: they knew they had house money and from the 25
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  Speaker 1: yard line, Miami was not going to be stopped. So I,
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  Speaker 1: I think that that's, do I trust? I mean, Florida state,
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  Speaker 1: the Clemson defense has been really impressive. Clemson might be
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  Speaker 1: as close to as good of a defense as.
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  Speaker 3: Florida state has seen.
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  Speaker 4: Um, yeah, at least as close to Alabama is when
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  Speaker 4: I want to show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like Miami's defense is not, I don't think Miami's defense
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  Speaker 1: in totality right now with their issues in the secondary
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  Speaker 1: is as good as Clemson's and Bama's secondary was really
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  Speaker 1: bad in that game too.
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  Speaker 3: And so I like Clemson secondary.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe Florida state doesn't get to 30, but I
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  Speaker 1: have got some confidence in Florida's taking it to 28, 24.
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  Speaker 1: If this game is played in the high teens, low 20s,
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  Speaker 1: I think Clemson has a shot because Florida State's defense
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  Speaker 1: will give up some plays.
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  Speaker 3: But if this game gets up.
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  Speaker 1: Over 24, 27, 28, I just don't know how Clemson
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  Speaker 1: scores enough unless Florida State is giving them those opportunities,
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  Speaker 1: the short fields, the things that Cole talked about. When
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  Speaker 1: I was looking at the Miami game and the Bama game,
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  Speaker 1: Florida state, big dogs in both. I said that Florida
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  Speaker 1: state should just go for it and try, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all everything else aside.
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  Speaker 3: If you're trying to win that game, go for it. Attack.
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  Speaker 1: If you make mistakes and you lose by 30 instead
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  Speaker 1: of 20, so be it, man. At least you went
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  Speaker 1: out and you let your, you know what, hang and
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  Speaker 1: you went for it. I think the opposite is the
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  Speaker 1: case in this one. I think Florida state should, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to say play conservatively, but let Clemson go
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  Speaker 1: be the one to make the mistakes. Don't go out
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  Speaker 1: and push things on this one. Like don't, don't, you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to win this game in the first quarter
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  Speaker 1: by going up 17, nothing. you probably did need to
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  Speaker 1: go up 17, nothing against Bama in Miami and think,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Like you had to go
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  Speaker 1: win those games. That's not the same case this week.
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  Speaker 1: Their offense is not good enough, even though Florida state's
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  Speaker 1: defense is, is.
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  Speaker 3: Not great by any means. I would say it's poor, bad. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think you, you come out in this one and
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  Speaker 1: you're okay with, with letting Clemson be the one to,
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  Speaker 1: to eventually make the mistakes. So I do think Florida
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  Speaker 1: state gets to 28 ish. I think it's a good game.
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  Speaker 1: I think Clemson's probably around 20, I like the Noles
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  Speaker 1: to win and the Noles to cover. So 28-20, Florida
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  Speaker 1: State wins.
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  Speaker 4: What's the spread on this game?
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  Speaker 3: Six and a half, seven.
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  Speaker 4: Six and a half, seven, okay.
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  Speaker 3: I'll go quick.
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  Speaker 4: I still respect Clemson's defense. Clemson's defense, I think, has
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  Speaker 4: played really well. They gave the two touchdowns to Luke
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  Speaker 4: Reynolds after finally getting tired on on drives uh last
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  Speaker 4: week but like can any of you tell me how
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  Speaker 4: like what was the longest drive for Clemson last.
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  Speaker 1: Week the drive home I'm sure probably sorry.
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  Speaker 4: There was one 65 yard drive yeah you had a
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  Speaker 4: big time pass yeah you had a big time pass
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  Speaker 4: from Reynolds you had one run from the touchdown run
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  Speaker 4: from Reynolds I don't think they had a drive longer
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  Speaker 4: than 50 yards the rest of the game besides that one.
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  Speaker 4: So I still respect Clemson's defense, but I think that
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  Speaker 4: Florida State's offense can do just enough, like just enough
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  Speaker 4: to be able to get a touchdown late. I will
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  Speaker 4: go 21 to 13. I think that this will be
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  Speaker 4: low scoring until like the fourth quarter. And it's like 14, 13,
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  Speaker 4: and then a late touchdown gets them to beat the
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  Speaker 4: spread Florida State.
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  Speaker 2: I am going to go 20-13 Clemson. I think Clemson
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  Speaker 2: sells out to stop the run. Missing Croma is a
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  Speaker 2: huge factor in this for Florida State. I think Wisner
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  Speaker 2: is going to be able to help a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: even without an explosive of 24 in the game against Miami.
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  Speaker 2: He still averaged 4.8 yards per carry. If you deduct
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  Speaker 2: that from his total, he can still be effective. But
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  Speaker 2: if I'm Clemson, I'm making this be a situation where
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  Speaker 2: Wisner and Daniels have to run the hell out of
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  Speaker 2: the football efficiently. in order for Florida State to have
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  Speaker 2: a chance. And then Clemson's ultimate goal is, let's just
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  Speaker 2: put the game on Ashton Daniels. Let's make him throw
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  Speaker 2: it 30, 40 times in this game. So I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to go with Clemson.
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  Speaker 1: Which I do think, to Tom's point, you talk about, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I think Florida State has varying levels of confidence
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  Speaker 1: for the game to be put on Daniels' shoulders.
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  Speaker 3: Because it will be Jameis Winston-esque. It will be very
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  Speaker 3: boom or bust.
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  Speaker 1: He'll throw for 300 yards and rush for three touchdowns
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  Speaker 1: because we don't have a running back.
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  Speaker 3: Or he'll throw three picks and Clemson will win. You know,
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  Speaker 3: like it's going to be one of those two. I,
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  Speaker 3: as much as I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: Happy with the take still, I think Daniels has been
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  Speaker 1: much better than I expected this year. You know, all
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  Speaker 1: things considered, if he can limit the turnovers, they'll have
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  Speaker 1: a great chance. If not, who knows, but hopefully Tom's
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  Speaker 1: right is the way that I would end it. Not
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  Speaker 1: even Catholic, but let's go. I watched The Godfather this week,
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  Speaker 1: by the way. I'm all in it.
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  Speaker 3: You come to me on the day. Anyway, go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Is this the last time that we see Mike Norvell
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  Speaker 4: and Davos Sweeney coach against each other? Because both are
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  Speaker 4: out at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 3: Out of an era. It's a distinct possibility.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Mike Norvell is getting fired because I
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  Speaker 1: think they win this game and that's going to propel
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  Speaker 1: him to 6-6 and the admin will keep him. Um, so,
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  Speaker 1: and I think Clemson does win some games down the stretch,
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  Speaker 1: although they, I guess they'd get to four and four today.
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  Speaker 1: They win two games and then they could finish seven
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  Speaker 1: and five. Cause I think they lose to South Carolina. Um, 30%,
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  Speaker 1: I'll say 30% chance. Cause if the game happens in
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  Speaker 1: November next year, then it could happen. You know, like
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  Speaker 1: you could see a mid season thing.
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  Speaker 3: So I'll say 30%.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's more likely than not that they both
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  Speaker 1: coach against each other again next year. Unless, unless Clemson
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  Speaker 1: wins this year, then I think Mike's done.
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  Speaker 4: I think that dabble steps down at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the year.
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  Speaker 3: Ooh, good question there for that.