Latest / Unbalanced with Cerys Davage / 75. Similar diagnosis, different lives (ft. Zoe Harrison)
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- 0:09Hello everyone, welcome back to another episode of Unbalanced
- 0:13with Me, Kara Savage. I hope you're all ready for this
- 0:17episode because today we're welcoming the 1st guest of 2026,
- 0:22Zoe, Hi. Hi.
- 0:24Oh, thank you for having me. I'm really happy to be here.
- 0:27I'm really happy to have you on because this is not the first
- 0:30time we're chatting. I've been on your podcast and
- 0:34even though it's come round quick, it was actually a long
- 0:37time. So I'm sure we have a lot to
- 0:38catch up on. But first of all, introduce
- 0:41yourself to our audience. Tell us a bit about yourself.
- 0:44Where are you from and what do you do?
- 0:46So obviously my name is Zoe and I have a podcast called This
- 0:51Should Be Diaries, which is how we meet.
- 0:53When you met. Obviously I started it because I
- 0:57have limb girl was going to feel like yourself and I really just
- 1:02kind of wanted to. It's a bit of a diary really.
- 1:05Like I just get a lot of my thoughts and feelings about
- 1:08everything out on my episodes. And luckily people seem to kind
- 1:13of relate to it, which I really enjoy, makes really happy.
- 1:16And I'm from Liverpool, so I'm a Northern girl and yeah, that
- 1:22that's a little, little round up of me.
- 1:25Lovely, and what do you do for work?
- 1:27So I work for muscular Chevy UK and I am their information
- 1:32officer so I help keep the information on their website
- 1:36like the health based stuff and accurate up to date and help
- 1:41create new pages around like living with a muscle wasting
- 1:45condition. Amazing.
- 1:47Well, thank you for that lovely introduction.
- 1:49We will obviously get into your podcast a little bit later, but
- 1:53first let's get to know you and your LDMD.
- 1:57Obviously you have the same condition but a very different
- 2:01subtype, don't you? Yeah, I do.
- 2:04So I have 1B as a subtype, which, yeah, it's quite a
- 2:08strange one. I mean, Lynn Girdle is quite a
- 2:13funny variety of conditions. Everybody is so affected in
- 2:19quite different ways. But yeah, 1B seems to be a
- 2:22little bit of a a nuisance in a lot of ways.
- 2:26Tell us a bit about how you got diagnosed and how you're
- 2:30affected. So oh gosh, I start.
- 2:36Where do we start? I began having problems with
- 2:41walking when I was about four, and I started as a toe Walker,
- 2:46which can be quite common for a lot of children.
- 2:48You know, it doesn't always mean there's something really wrong.
- 2:51And they thought they might grow out of it, so they waited a
- 2:55little bit. But by the age of seven or
- 2:57eight, it was quite clear that I was really struggling
- 3:00physically. And, and so I went for a full
- 3:04body MRI just to check like my spine and stuff.
- 3:08And that was where they fell. I had a big cyst on the left
- 3:11side of my brain. And so they booked in surgery to
- 3:15drain that. And at the same time, they took
- 3:18a muscle biopsy from my leg, and they kind of established that I
- 3:22had some type of muscle condition, but they didn't
- 3:25really have a name for it until it was about 12 or 13.
- 3:30And that was when I got the full, full diagnosis and was
- 3:34kind of told what they expected my life to to be like.
- 3:39I'm sure we've all had that conversation.
- 3:41You know, it can be quite bleak times.
- 3:44But I was very determined to prove them very wrong.
- 3:48So it affects every muscle in my body.
- 3:51So even like the little ones in my neck and my swallow, my
- 3:54stomach hurt everything. So every movement, every
- 3:58function is impacted in some way.
- 4:01For me, I'd say my biggest struggle is definitely like my
- 4:08stomach and nutrition and also my heart.
- 4:12So if I write, say to someone or don't feel great today, it's
- 4:15always going to be linked to one of them, which can be quite
- 4:20frustrating at times because it I'd say they're quite difficult
- 4:24to manage. I am on different medications
- 4:26for them, but they just kind of do what they want.
- 4:29My, my body. But my mobility is also
- 4:33affected. So my legs, my arms, my neck,
- 4:37everywhere. It's quite weak.
- 4:39I use a wheelchair for long distances, but I, I toddle about
- 4:44in inside around the house. And yeah, I feel like that's a a
- 4:48quick summary tied up in a nice little bell.
- 4:52Fair play to you. I know it's not always easy to
- 4:54kind of dive into all the struggles that you go through.
- 4:59But no, that was, that was a really good summary because I
- 5:02could kind of relate to only a little bit of them, my stomach
- 5:06and my heart. I mean, I know LGMD affects your
- 5:09heart, but touch wood I think my condition maybe not as much.
- 5:15You obviously have a lot more experience with your stomach and
- 5:18your heart. So can you give us a bit more of
- 5:21an insight as to how that is, how it is affected What what's
- 5:26the kind of process how you affected day-to-day?
- 5:30So I have got this matility and malabsorption, but also goes up
- 5:38to my swallow. So I have like a weakened
- 5:39swallow. So I've always really struggled
- 5:43to tolerate a lot of food and like it would make me quite I'll
- 5:48so I'd get a lot of stomach pain, I'd feel sick, I'd feel
- 5:51full really quickly. And so I was spitted with a PEG
- 5:55when I was about 1314, and I tried the milk feed through my
- 6:01PEG, but they all made me really, really unwell.
- 6:04And I was still struggling with malnutrition.
- 6:08And by that point my swallow was so bad that I was really
- 6:11struggling to get any food in. So as a last resort, they put me
- 6:16on parental nutrition. So I've got a central line and I
- 6:21have that four nights a week. It's an overnight feed that goes
- 6:25into my heart and it's so it bypasses the stomach.
- 6:29And so that is how I get by big bulk of nutrition.
- 6:33But over the years I've built up my tolerance for food.
- 6:38And so I can't eat, but I eat like a little and often and I
- 6:42can't go hours and hours without food because I get real extreme
- 6:47hunger. I get like hunger pain.
- 6:49I feel sick. It's not fun.
- 6:51So every couple of hours, I mean, sometimes even on my
- 6:54podcast, I might have to like grab a little biscuit or
- 6:57something. Like I'm always having to kind
- 6:59of keep the stomach working in some form.
- 7:03But then from a heart perspective, I have
- 7:05cardiomyopathy. Every day I get some type of
- 7:09flutter or I get a bit puffed out.
- 7:11I feel quite fatigued. I sometimes get like a funny
- 7:14rhythm and like palpitations. I am on a beta blocker for it,
- 7:20but because of my absorption problems, I don't absorb like
- 7:23all of the beta blocker, which is why some of them still sneak
- 7:28through. It's always easy to manage.
- 7:31I think. I don't really like getting them
- 7:33when I'm on my own at home. Like I find it quite scary,
- 7:38which is something that I'm trying to build up and work on.
- 7:41But when you're home alone and nobody's like like in a near
- 7:45distance to you and you're feeling unwell, from a heart
- 7:49perspective it is quite scary and daunting and I'm very lucky
- 7:54that I've got a lot of support around me.
- 7:57And I suppose you're maybe used to having these, so you kind of
- 8:01know what to do in those situations.
- 8:04Yeah, I think I'm quite good at recognising when it's
- 8:07uncomfortable but OK, But when it's something that I need to
- 8:10maybe raise which someone to be like, oh, don't feel too good at
- 8:13the minute. So if you did have those kind of
- 8:17palpitations or irregular rhythms, what would be your kind
- 8:21of, OK, this is what I need to do.
- 8:24Always lie down. So definitely lie down because
- 8:28it takes some of the pressure off your heart.
- 8:32Sometimes I might have a little bit extra of my beta blocker if
- 8:36if it's like really not settling, if it was really,
- 8:39really not OK, I would I would know to probably ring, you know,
- 8:44ring for an ambulance. But it.
- 8:46Sounds like you know your your body really well.
- 8:50It these conditions kind of do require us tuning into our
- 8:54bodies a lot and to know, I mean, you said yourself, you
- 8:58know that you need to eat quite, you know, little and often
- 9:02because that's what's best for your body.
- 9:04That's how you digest it the best.
- 9:05How do you find maybe going out if your friends want to go out
- 9:09for a meal or something like that, How do you navigate those
- 9:11situations? So a few years ago that used to
- 9:15be like my worst nightmare when I couldn't eat anything or when
- 9:19I was relearning to eat because I just didn't feel very
- 9:22comfortable. But over the years I've got more
- 9:26confident about eating around people and so I quite enjoy
- 9:31going out for food. Now it is a little bit trickier
- 9:35for me. So I'm a slow eater and I'm not
- 9:37very good at talking when I eat because obviously like I'm
- 9:40concentrating on chewing it properly and then getting it
- 9:43down. But all of my friends, like they
- 9:47know me so well now. So they they kind of just let me
- 9:51eat my food in peace and then chat like around me or just ask
- 9:56me like questions where I just need to nod.
- 9:58Not really. That's really good.
- 10:02It's good that you have friends that understand you and you're
- 10:04still part of the conversation. You're just doing your own
- 10:07thing. I'm just not like integrate and
- 10:11watch, yeah. I think in the situations,
- 10:15friends who maybe don't understand the condition could
- 10:18easily just not want to educate themselves and isolate
- 10:22themselves from needing to learn about these kind of situations.
- 10:27But it's good that they are willing to understand you and
- 10:32kind of tailor the situations around you.
- 10:34So that's good. Oh God, yeah.
- 10:36Like it's so important. I mean, you all know from your
- 10:40own experiences, it's so important to have people in your
- 10:43life that are patient and approach things with
- 10:46understanding and empathy because then they're they're
- 10:50willing to make adjustments for you.
- 10:53Yeah, and it doesn't make you feel like a burden Then it just,
- 10:56you're just one of them, you know?
- 10:58Exactly. Absolutely.
- 11:00Amazing. So tell.
- 11:02I'm just so curious because I suppose because I don't have
- 11:05this experience, I'm really eager to learn about the kind of
- 11:08overnight feeds. What?
- 11:11What is it? What does it entail?
- 11:13Where'd you get the food? Like what?
- 11:15How? How is it made I guess?
- 11:17So I haven't delivered once a week by my local hospital and
- 11:23it's kept in a medical fridge in my garage.
- 11:27I put it like I attach myself to it.
- 11:30I'm fully independent. It's a sterile procedure.
- 11:33I think I did on my Instagram. I think I've got a little reel
- 11:37that shows the step by step procedure because it is a little
- 11:41bit tricky at first, but once you've mastered it, it's like
- 11:47second nature and and it runs overnight for about 10 hours for
- 11:52me. And so I just have it when I go
- 11:54to sleep and it goes in my central line, goes in my heart,
- 11:57and it's then pumped around my body so bypasses the stomach.
- 12:02Wow, that's so. It's a really cool thing, like
- 12:05I've never heard of it before I started it.
- 12:08It's a very cool medical like invention.
- 12:11Whoever thought of that? It's really like a little
- 12:15genius. Honestly, it's fascinating.
- 12:18And yeah, I mean, that's what's keeping you going, right?
- 12:21You know, So it's pretty important.
- 12:23And that that's the only thing that keeps me alive really,
- 12:27because the food that I get in is not enough to sustain myself
- 12:30at all. And like the feed, I always feel
- 12:34a bit unwell after it. Like it's quite heavy on your
- 12:39body because there's a lot of sugar in it.
- 12:41So you can your sugars can be a bit unstable like the next day.
- 12:45So the best way I can describe it is when I've had it the next
- 12:50day it's almost like a little hangover, like I'm a bit rough
- 12:53and bit headache and I won't have select very well.
- 12:56So everything's a bit more irritated and flaring.
- 13:01But I respect that I need it. I think it it could be a bit of
- 13:07a hard battle at times when the thing that you really need and
- 13:11keeps you well is also the thing that sometimes feels like it's
- 13:15poisoning you and making you unwell.
- 13:17But I've been on it long enough now to that I've kind of worked
- 13:21through that. My perspective on it is
- 13:24obviously I don't love it. I'd love to not be on it, but I
- 13:26know I need it and it keeps me well, let's me live my life.
- 13:30And so it's kind of worth that uncomfortable bit.
- 13:35Yeah, it's important to have a good relationship with things
- 13:38that you may not want but you need, right?
- 13:41It's kind of like just the condition in general.
- 13:44I'm just like, well, if we're going to have this condition, if
- 13:46I'm going to worsen over time, I may as well accept it and not
- 13:50let it kind of defeat me and take over my life.
- 13:53And, you know, eventually if I try to be in denial or ignore it
- 13:57down the road, I might suffer those consequences.
- 14:00So I may as well try and build a good relationship with it from
- 14:02the start. Oh, God, yeah.
- 14:04Like, I was really stubborn when I was first diagnosed, and I
- 14:09wouldn't accept anything. Like I wouldn't accept my
- 14:12wheelchair. And I look back and I feel so,
- 14:16so sorry for that time because I made myself really unwell.
- 14:22Like, I should have used my chair a lot sooner.
- 14:26I literally used to walk until my legs would conk out and I'd
- 14:30get stuck places and I just really battered my body.
- 14:34And I kind of just got to a point where I was like, just
- 14:38accept the help. Like it's going to make your
- 14:41life more cult. We don't need to suffer like
- 14:44this just because you're worried about looking a certain way or
- 14:49what other people think. Like you need to do what's best
- 14:52for your health. Definitely.
- 14:54And it's all about kind of in moderation.
- 14:57You know exercise is good, but exercise that's tailored to you
- 15:00and not trying to weigh yourself out like you said until your
- 15:03body just can't cope anymore. Absolutely, we've spoken about
- 15:07it before but and Becca's like Movement Monday, things like
- 15:11that honestly has been, I know I've said it before, but it's
- 15:14really changed kind of my approach because I obviously do
- 15:18physio, but a lot of my physio is kind of management or like
- 15:24pain management hasn't always been about getting stronger
- 15:28because there's so there's so many things to look at and our
- 15:32session is really not long enough to tackle everything.
- 15:35So you have to prioritise and I prioritise the pain.
- 15:39But since I've started doing more tailored movement and
- 15:42exercises, I've really found that I am starting to build a
- 15:46bit more strength, but without pushing myself.
- 15:49Because obviously from a heart perspective, it's not always
- 15:52easy to exercise comfortably because I get cuffed out or, you
- 15:57know, I don't have a lot of stamina.
- 15:58So it's about trying to build up, but comfortably.
- 16:03Yeah, for sure. Beck is amazing.
- 16:06Absolute legend, absolute queen. If you don't already follow her,
- 16:10I will be tagging her Instagram below.
- 16:13Even though she's not on this episode, she deserves the shout
- 16:15out, no? We're just randomly shout in our
- 16:18in our episodes. No, she, she deserves it.
- 16:21She's amazing and she's Australian.
- 16:23So that's like extra bonus points, you know, so your type
- 16:27is 1B, whereas I'm two I, so I have a recessive type and you
- 16:32have a dominant type. It's to do with the genes.
- 16:35So it's a dominant gene and recessive gene.
- 16:38But I know with my condition, you can get an early onset or a
- 16:42late onset. So the early onset is like
- 16:44you're affected pretty much from when you're like a baby or a
- 16:48toddler. But I have the late onset.
- 16:50So I'm I got symptoms through my teens instead.
- 16:53When I've spoken to people that have had like a later onset, I
- 16:57think think it can be a bit trickier because you're you're
- 17:02used to a certain way and then your body changed quite quickly.
- 17:07Whereas for me, like if there's something I've not been able to
- 17:10do, I've kind of nearly always not been able to do it or it's
- 17:15always been a struggle. So I feel like for me mentally
- 17:19that was maybe a little bit easier to accept.
- 17:22Does that makes sense? Because I've just, I've always
- 17:25been this way and affected. I've not really known any
- 17:28different. Yeah, in some ways it's quite
- 17:32nice to have that stability of knowing what your limits are and
- 17:37what you can and can't do. Definitely.
- 17:40I think even when you've always been affected, as you know, like
- 17:44with any type of Lusca, there should be.
- 17:47The older you get, the more like you kind of lose in, the weaker
- 17:52you get. So whenever I speak to people in
- 17:54the community, it's always the common thing that keeps cropping
- 17:58up is that managing that change as you go on and adapting to
- 18:04your new normal, as people say. Yeah, Something that's really
- 18:09helped me through that, though, is the LGMD community online.
- 18:13And if someone says like, oh guys, like I've just started to
- 18:17notice that this is happening to me.
- 18:18Can anyone else relate? And then so many people would
- 18:21say, yeah, no, I completely get this.
- 18:23This is totally normal, don't worry.
- 18:25So it's quite nice to know that you're not the only one going
- 18:28through it. And if other people have already
- 18:31been experiencing that, they can maybe suggest ways to overcome
- 18:34it or to deal with it in a better way maybe.
- 18:37Absolutely. For a long time, like I didn't
- 18:40know anybody else with Liam Gertel almost going to be in
- 18:44general, to be honest. And I feel like now since I've
- 18:48been more open on social media and got into the different
- 18:52groups and mingled more with people from the community, it is
- 18:56nice to not feel on your own. And I should say to chat to
- 19:01people that have been there or are going through it.
- 19:04And you just, it's just nice to not feel on your own, I think.
- 19:07Definitely. It's honestly such a gift and
- 19:10especially like you said, when most of us grew up alone in it.
- 19:14Now there's so many people from all across the world, and no
- 19:17amount of conferences could bring together this amount of
- 19:21people. Oh my gosh, no.
- 19:24It's, yeah, it is truly incredible.
- 19:26And even though it's such a rare condition, I don't feel that
- 19:28it's as rare anymore just because there's so many of us
- 19:32now. No, I completely get that.
- 19:34I feel like when I was younger, I always felt like I was a bit
- 19:37of an alien and like, Oh my gosh.
- 19:39Like where because you wouldn't even hear about it on like TV or
- 19:44online. There was just, I never came
- 19:46across anyone. But I feel like now I've met so
- 19:48many other people with types of women gird, I feel like, OK, no,
- 19:53there are actually a lot of us in the same boat.
- 19:57It is incredible. Yeah.
- 19:59Moving on from this is quite a nice segue into your podcast,
- 20:03Dystrophy Diaries. Tell us a bit about why you
- 20:07decided to do this, how you came up with the idea.
- 20:09To do what I really never ever thought that I would ever do
- 20:13anything like that or, you know, create an Instagram page about
- 20:17my condition because I, I for a long time felt really
- 20:21uncomfortable talking about it because I was seeing a lot of
- 20:24things. But I thought I just got the
- 20:26idea like a year ago because someone had asked me to go on a
- 20:30medical podcast. And I was just sat there
- 20:33thinking today, what, why don't I give it a go and kind of talk
- 20:38about things that I would have liked to have heard.
- 20:40Because I think growing up when I'd get new symptoms, I'd always
- 20:45feel like, gosh, how am I going to navigate life with this?
- 20:48How am I going to go to university with all of these
- 20:51issues? How am I going to get into a
- 20:53relationship and date normally? And I would have really liked to
- 20:59have met somebody else. So, you know, listen to somebody
- 21:02else who had gone through that and just hear what it was like
- 21:06for them or even just know that it was possible to do those
- 21:09things with your condition. And so I try and do episodes
- 21:15that I feel raise awareness, but also show lots of other people
- 21:21in similar situations and how they've navigated and achieved
- 21:25lots of really amazing things. But I just try and be the person
- 21:32that I would have quite liked when I was growing up.
- 21:35And I want people to feel safe and I want people to feel seen
- 21:39and heard because I know like for me personally, sometimes my
- 21:45adjustments or support that I might ask for might look a bit
- 21:49strange. So as an example, I really
- 21:52struggle with my neck because it's very weak.
- 21:55And sometimes like on a video call or whatever, I might need
- 21:59to lean back and prop it up with this pillow thing.
- 22:03Now, for someone who doesn't know me, sometimes might look at
- 22:07that and think, oh, why? Why is she doing that?
- 22:09That's a bit strange. And I've been talented stuff
- 22:12like that over the years with certain adjustments.
- 22:14Not people being mean about it, but you can always see the cogs
- 22:17turning and feeling like, well, why do you need help with that?
- 22:21And so I wanted to also showcase what different needs people have
- 22:28and what type of help they might need to try and raise a bit more
- 22:32awareness and get people thinking and approaching things
- 22:34with a bit more empathy rather than always thinking.
- 22:38Oh, that's a bit strange. Why do you need that?
- 22:41They might think, Oh, well, you know, I heard this and, you
- 22:44know, approach it with a bit more understanding, if that
- 22:48makes sense. Definitely, and it is important.
- 22:51It's tiring that we have to be the ones educating people, but
- 22:55they just won't know otherwise. And I'd rather people know the
- 23:00reason why I do things a certain way than just assume that I'm
- 23:04lazy or just something else. Yeah.
- 23:07Absolutely. That was really a big driving
- 23:10force for why I'm also so open on my podcast.
- 23:14Like, I never thought I would divulge a lot of the information
- 23:19that I have done, but I just thought I can't start this
- 23:23podcast and ask other people to come on and be transparent and
- 23:27me not be fully transparent. Like if I'm going to do it, I'm
- 23:32going to just be like, this is me, take it or leave it.
- 23:37Yeah, that. That's it.
- 23:38That's amazing. Well, congratulations anyway on
- 23:42over a year of dystrophy Diaries.
- 23:44Thank you. Yeah, your episodes are amazing.
- 23:47I know you don't like compliments, but I will
- 23:49obviously be linking your podcast below.
- 23:51It's nice to be able to chat to another podcaster as well.
- 23:55I just completely relate to you on that.
- 23:57I guess I started my podcast as a way of being the voice that I
- 24:01wish I had growing up. So it's just so incredible to
- 24:05see now since maybe tapping into the disability community that
- 24:10there are so many resources now. There's so many accounts online,
- 24:14there's so many podcasts that are disability centred.
- 24:18There are honestly just like so many resources now that we just,
- 24:22we didn't have anything and now there's there's actually
- 24:24options, which is just incredible.
- 24:26I know I feel like over the last few years I've seen so many more
- 24:31resources and like blogs, podcasts and people talking
- 24:36about their experiences. And it's just so nice to to see
- 24:39people one, feeling comfortable enough that they want to share
- 24:42that, but also that there's so many things that people can go
- 24:46and read and be invested in and just relate to it.
- 24:52Is amazing. I obviously want to talk about
- 24:55you're married now, which is amazing.
- 24:58Congratulations. Thank you.
- 25:00You're engaged now. Congratulations.
- 25:03Thank you. I'm obviously going to be coming
- 25:04to you for lots of advice when it comes to actually planning
- 25:09the wedding, but I saw that you were training in hydrotherapy
- 25:14for a while to be able to walk down the aisle, which is so
- 25:18special. Like guys, if you haven't seen
- 25:20the video, it's tear jerking. What was that day like for you
- 25:25as someone with with LGMD? Just to bring us a bit of hope.
- 25:30Oh, that's a good question. So I think when I first got
- 25:35engaged, I always knew I really wanted to walk down the aisle.
- 25:40There was definitely when we started looking at venues, there
- 25:42was quite a lot of things I needed to consider.
- 25:45So obviously I really wanted it to be fully accessible and I
- 25:49wanted to just stay in the one place.
- 25:50So I didn't want to go from like venue to venue, like to a church
- 25:54and then for the after bit like that would just would have been
- 25:56too exhausting. So I picked somewhere that was
- 26:02really fully accessible, but still really beautiful.
- 26:04And I think that is a really important thing sometimes for
- 26:08accessibility, because sometimes you might go somewhere and they
- 26:12claim it's really accessible, but it it it looks really
- 26:16medical and it's not like your dream venue.
- 26:20So I felt really fortunate that I found somewhere that kind of
- 26:23ticked both boxes At the time was my walk was OK, but it was a
- 26:30lot of effort and it wasn't very smooth.
- 26:33And so I kind of approached my old neurophysio who was recently
- 26:37retired and was like, look, you know, this is my goal.
- 26:40I want to walk down the aisle comfortably because also a
- 26:44wedding dress, it's really heavy.
- 26:46And that was something that I maybe wasn't prepared for, like
- 26:51when I was going dress shopping. Oh.
- 26:53Really. Yeah, they are.
- 26:55But don't worry. Don't worry though, because
- 26:57there are there's lots of options.
- 26:59Like I got one that had a train that came up.
- 27:04So you just use the train to walk down and then you take it
- 27:08off after. So it wasn't as heavy, but I
- 27:13wasn't really prepared for that. So she suggested we do some
- 27:16hydrotherapy and it built me up strong enough that I was able to
- 27:20walk down the aisle. But on the day, I really
- 27:24struggle with shoes because I don't have a lot of feeling on
- 27:27the bottom of my feet because I've got on your upper feet and
- 27:30I really need to like grip as I'm walking like the floor, if
- 27:34that makes sense because of my balance.
- 27:36And all the shoes are none of them, just none of them are
- 27:41working. And I thought, well, I've built
- 27:44up my walk. I want it to be showcased at the
- 27:48time. So I bought these really pretty
- 27:51bridal socks and was like, I'm just going to go down in my
- 27:56socks. Like you couldn't see them
- 27:58anyway. The dress was long.
- 27:59I was like, forget it. Like it's my wedding day and the
- 28:03bride I want, I want to be able to walk.
- 28:05So we're doing it in socks. And I think my advice is just
- 28:12you've got to, you've got to do what you've got to do.
- 28:14You've got to do what's best for you.
- 28:16Don't worry about, oh, it's going to look a certain way.
- 28:21You know, we've got to fit that stereotype.
- 28:24Because honestly, I had the most amazing wedding weekend, but it
- 28:29also worked for me. Like I made little adaptations.
- 28:33I used my wheelchair for a lot of the, the walk in bits, like
- 28:36in between, like the first dance, walking down the aisle.
- 28:40And that allowed me to have the energy to do the really
- 28:43important things, to do the walk in, to do the photos, to do the
- 28:47first dance. If I'd have just gone hell
- 28:50forever, no chair all day, I wouldn't have been able to do
- 28:55all the really special moments. And I also did have two dresses
- 29:00and I did that because the second dress was a lot lighter.
- 29:04So that would also be another another tip if you use the
- 29:08really heavy special one for down the aisle.
- 29:11And then after you've done your pictures, I then got in the
- 29:15lighter 1 and it was, it was perfect.
- 29:18Wow, that sounds like the most incredible day.
- 29:20I should have been taking notes through all of that.
- 29:23So many good takeaways and thank you so much for sharing.
- 29:27And it just shows that accessibility can be beautiful.
- 29:30You know. Absolutely.
- 29:32Adapting things to the way that you want to do it and to
- 29:36something that works for you can.
- 29:38It's still wonderful and it's probably something that other
- 29:42people won't notice as much. Like I'm sure no one was
- 29:45thinking, why on earth is she walking down the aisle in?
- 29:47Salt absolutely. So that's like the the key
- 29:52takeaways, isn't it? Like, dude, nobody's bothered.
- 29:54Like do whatever you need to do for you.
- 29:58Absolutely. But yeah, nobody noticed.
- 30:00It was only after when I kind of made a joke about it that people
- 30:04were like, oh, didn't even didn't lock.
- 30:08You deserve for it to be the magical day that you know you
- 30:12dream of and you want to be comfortable like you want it to
- 30:15work for you. Exactly, I'd love to ask you a
- 30:20question that I ask all my interviewees at the end of every
- 30:22episode, which is what piece of advice would you give to your
- 30:26younger self or anyone that's struggling?
- 30:29I think when you're young and you start on this journey, you,
- 30:35you get this really big diagnosis, you get a lot of
- 30:38information, a lot of it quite negative thrown at you in one
- 30:40go. And it can feel really
- 30:42overwhelming. And I think you can wonder,
- 30:45well, how am I going to live my life with this?
- 30:48How am I going to navigate it? And that was definitely
- 30:50something I felt at the time and something that really cleared on
- 30:54my mind for many years. But if I could go and speak to
- 30:57my younger self or anybody else in that situation, I just try
- 31:01and say that your life doesn't stop because you've got
- 31:05muscularity. It really doesn't come to a
- 31:09grinding halt and mean that you can't still do everything that
- 31:14you want to do. You can't still go to
- 31:15university, you can't still get your favourite job, date, get
- 31:19married, whatever it may be. There's just a way of doing it
- 31:24that works for you. There's just a way of adapting
- 31:28and finding your own path. I mean, my mum always used to,
- 31:32whenever I'd be upset about thinking, God, how am I going to
- 31:35do this? How am I going to learn to
- 31:37drive? My mum always used to say,
- 31:40you're just taking the scenic route in life.
- 31:43It doesn't mean that you're not going to get there.
- 31:45And that was always something that really kind of stuck with
- 31:47me of even if, you know, you get knocked down or you have a
- 31:51little detour, you can still reach your final destination,
- 31:56your final goal. That's so beautiful.
- 31:59Thank you so much for that. That's literally like the
- 32:02perfect ending, such a nice like positive note to to finish on.
- 32:06And you are such an incredible woman.
- 32:09You know, you go through so many things that people just wouldn't
- 32:11even know about. Just so many little things,
- 32:14little changes day-to-day that you have to do that maybe you're
- 32:18used to by now, but not many people could deal with that and,
- 32:22you know, be able to pick themselves up.
- 32:24And I think what you're doing is just incredible.
- 32:27So keep going. Oh.
- 32:29Thank you, Karis. And honestly, like you're really
- 32:31amazing too. I mean, I know our experiences
- 32:35are quite different, but you, you also have a lot of
- 32:39challenges to deal with. And I mean, look, you do your
- 32:41your full time job and then you do the podcast like you're
- 32:44always grinding on something. I mean, of course I could not, I
- 32:49could not put out as much as you do content wise.
- 32:53Oh my God. Knackering.
- 32:54Like I struggle just to get one episode out a week.
- 32:57Oh my God. That's more than me, so fair
- 32:59play. I do every other week and that's
- 33:01too much for me sometimes. So obviously like you're all so
- 33:05amazing and smashing it and you've done really well and you
- 33:09you give a lot back, I think to the community that you really
- 33:13want to make a difference and help people.
- 33:17And I think that that is really important to have people like
- 33:20you involved in flying the flag for everybody.
- 33:23Thank you so much. That's so kind.
- 33:25Yeah, that's the point, isn't it?
- 33:26Just yeah, bring everyone together and bring some hope,
- 33:30isn't it? Absolutely amazing.
- 33:32Well, thank you so much for coming onto IMBALANCE finally.
- 33:35Can't believe we've finally done it.
- 33:37Thank you for having me. Honestly I feel like it's gone
- 33:39really quick. That was such a nice little
- 33:41chat. It was so lovely.
- 33:43Thank you guys so much for listening today.
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