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Patriots Unfiltered 10/30: Titans Preview, Practice Report, QB Questions · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here
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  Speaker 3: at the Lette Stadium. We're turning the page. And Girod
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  Speaker 3: Mayo led that off today with I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: it's news or speculator, but may we'll be out there.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what he'll be doing. He says he'll
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  Speaker 3: be throwing.
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  Speaker 5: That's going to be thrown a little bit. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 5: I mean it's it's not overly surprising. It is news
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  Speaker 5: to me. It's absolutely news because it eliminates the a
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  Speaker 5: dark room like yeah, I mean I didn't expect him
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  Speaker 5: to be based on the way he sounded after the game.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't expect him to be in a dark room.
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  Speaker 5: But he's somewhere in the middle of the protocol, I think,
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  Speaker 5: based on what Gerard said today, third step, fourth step,
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  Speaker 5: you know, somewhere in there. And then we're going to
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  Speaker 5: have to figure out if he is going to be
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  Speaker 5: able to get cleared, you know, for for full contact
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  Speaker 5: before the end of the weekend, get reinstated. But I
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  Speaker 5: think this. I thought there was a chance when we
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  Speaker 5: talked about it post game Sunday. I thought there was
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  Speaker 5: a chance yesterday, And you know, nothing has happened since
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  Speaker 5: to lead me to believe that he is completely out
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  Speaker 5: for for the game. But my prediction he will play, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I don't really have a prediction. No you shouldn't, but
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  Speaker 5: I don't have a I don't have any idea, but yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I mean he's gonna throw I guess a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: And he did say he Girod did say toward the
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  Speaker 5: end there was a question specifically about what, you know,
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  Speaker 5: how long, and he said he will be limited to
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  Speaker 5: thirty minutes. And just so people understand why I'm sort
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  Speaker 5: of making that differentiation. I don't know exactly how this
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  Speaker 5: is all going to unfold. They have to do it
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  Speaker 5: by whatever the NFL tells them to do the independent neurology.
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  Speaker 3: It's out of the Patriot's hands.
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  Speaker 5: But the thirty minute limit is something that is part
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  Speaker 5: of the criteria for the third step of protocol. The
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  Speaker 5: throwing and football quote unquote football activities is part of
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  Speaker 5: the fourth step. So I'm not exactly sure if we're
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  Speaker 5: combining steps right here or not. Okay, but I think
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  Speaker 5: I agree with your overall premise, Freddy, that it's it's good.
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  Speaker 5: It's a good sign that he's going to be out
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  Speaker 5: there today. I expected him to be out there. Most
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  Speaker 5: of those guys, unless it's like you're talking about with
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  Speaker 5: the dark room, they're out there, they're just not practicing.
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  Speaker 3: So given the opponent, and we'll be here for the
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  Speaker 3: next two hours talk it's me and Paul Duce will
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  Speaker 3: be here, Evan'll be here, but they've got some locker
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  Speaker 3: room duties right now that they're fulfilling, and Evan will
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  Speaker 3: be going out to practice and so he'll be back
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  Speaker 3: with the first visuals of Drake out there. But given
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  Speaker 3: the opponent, the Tennessee Titans, Patriots have a better chance
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  Speaker 3: of beating them with Drake may or is it the
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  Speaker 3: same with the Prissette or May.
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  Speaker 5: That's a great question because the knee jerk reaction would be, oh,
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  Speaker 5: obviously they have a better chance with Drake May. But
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  Speaker 5: I'm not. You know, nothing that's actually happened. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it looks better with Drake May. We can all agree, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but nothing that's actually happened has been better with Drake May.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 5: You know this is where you know you fall back
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  Speaker 5: on the analytics people. You know, it's right here in
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  Speaker 5: the spreadsheet. Well, the offense doesn't move the ball anymore,
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  Speaker 5: they don't score any more points. They don't like, they
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  Speaker 5: don't they're not any closer in the games. The two
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  Speaker 5: games that Drake May started and finished, they lost by
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  Speaker 5: what's sixteen and twenty? So I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 5: know the answer to that. Who gives them the better
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  Speaker 5: chance to win? An argument could be made for Perset
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  Speaker 5: because he's less apt to turn the ball over, and
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  Speaker 5: I think that could be the difference in a game
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  Speaker 5: between two teams that struggle to score points. You know
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  Speaker 5: a turnover here that the Patriots have actually done a
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  Speaker 5: pretty good job of not turning the ball over this year,
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  Speaker 5: regardless of the quarterback. But you could make an argument
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  Speaker 5: that percent would give them a better chance. Now I'm
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  Speaker 5: not making that argument. I'd rather see may And if
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  Speaker 5: may is ready to go, he absolutely plays.
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  Speaker 3: And Mayo, you know, was talking and I'm not you know,
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  Speaker 3: I know when Bill used to talk about the other team,
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  Speaker 3: he would, you know, focus on everything positive he could
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  Speaker 3: in that whole thing. And I'm not sure Mayo follows
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  Speaker 3: the same playbook. But he was talking about how unpredictable
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  Speaker 3: the Titans are on defense.
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  Speaker 5: And you know another point, you a favor for percent, right, And.
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  Speaker 3: We were talking yesterday about like are those numbers real
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  Speaker 3: because they're rated very high in terms of yards allowed
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  Speaker 3: in the league. But is that unpredictability part of their
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  Speaker 3: success so far?
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  Speaker 5: This ye, yeah, I mean, I don't know. It's a
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  Speaker 5: it's a good question, you know, in the yards too,
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  Speaker 5: like total yards allowed, it's hard to be deceptive. Now,
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  Speaker 5: obviously in the very in the most other team, starting
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  Speaker 5: in every and the most recent game, it was deceptive
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  Speaker 5: because Detroit took over in such great field position that
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  Speaker 5: they didn't need to move the ball very far. But
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  Speaker 5: over the balance of eight games, you allow, over seven
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  Speaker 5: games because they had to buy, they've allowed less yards
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  Speaker 5: than anybody else, I mean on average, so like it's
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  Speaker 5: hard to imagine every single game the other team only
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  Speaker 5: needed to drive twenty yards for a touchdown and they
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  Speaker 5: did it every time. That's what happened in the Lions game.
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  Speaker 5: You know, the passing yards allowed. That can be deceptive
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  Speaker 5: because they're behind all the time. Maybe teams are just
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  Speaker 5: running the ball at the end of the game and
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  Speaker 5: you know, killing the clock and not necessarily looking to
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  Speaker 5: do anything. But I be I'm curious to see what
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  Speaker 5: that defense looks like. They do have some individual players,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Jeffrey Simmons was on the top of mind
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  Speaker 5: for almost everybody we'd heard from today. He's he's obviously
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  Speaker 5: been a great player in the league for a long time.
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  Speaker 5: Harold Landry, kid from Boston College, you know, good solid
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  Speaker 5: edge guy. Lugerious Snead was a you know, a highly
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  Speaker 5: sought after guy in the market. You know, the Chiefs
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  Speaker 5: originally franchised and then they made a trade sent the corner.
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  Speaker 5: So they have some individual pieces on defense that that
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  Speaker 5: are pretty good. I'd like, you know, I'm like you
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  Speaker 5: I'm kind of curious to see is it deceptive or
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  Speaker 5: are they really just an underrated defense.
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  Speaker 3: And then on the other side of the ball, Gerard
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  Speaker 3: also said there the unpredictability at the quarterback position. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: kind of poses some challenge.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and Gerard let off the whole thing by saying
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  Speaker 5: how similar the two teams are, and even right down
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  Speaker 5: to that, there's uncertainty at quarterback. You know who's going
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  Speaker 5: to start the game in this particular case. I think
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  Speaker 5: there's a lot of similarities between those two guys. I
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  Speaker 5: think Will is probably more athletic and runs a little
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  Speaker 5: bit more with the purpose, but Mason Rudolph can move
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  Speaker 5: around too. They both turned the ball over. Neither one
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  Speaker 5: of them is particularly accurate. I would say Levis is
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  Speaker 5: more guilty of bad decisions. Yeah, you know, four lost
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  Speaker 5: fumbles is a lot. Yeah. So that's what's killed Tennessee
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  Speaker 5: is they can't hold onto the football. They minus thirteen
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  Speaker 5: in the turnovers. You know, neither team has generated a
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  Speaker 5: lot of takeaways, but the Patriots have held out of
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  Speaker 5: the ball and the Titans happened.
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  Speaker 3: And that's something also Mayo mentioned, is they had opportunities
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  Speaker 3: last game four takeaways, they didn't get them. If they
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  Speaker 3: have them this week, they have to take advantage of it.
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  Speaker 3: So that's all we're going to be talking about with
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  Speaker 3: the Titans. I want to know. I'm only kidding, but
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  Speaker 3: I do want to talk about last night's baseball game
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  Speaker 3: and the way the Yankees are treating those morons in
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  Speaker 3: right field.
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  Speaker 5: So I know the play that you're talking about. How
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  Speaker 5: would the Yankees treating them they don't know.
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  Speaker 3: They're bringing them back to the game as well.
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  Speaker 5: How would they would lost this season tickets? Yeah, absolutely,
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  Speaker 5: like they would have lost their.
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  Speaker 3: And then the ESPN did a feature on him. It's like,
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  Speaker 3: why are we, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, rewarding you know, horrible behavior, horrible behavior.
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  Speaker 3: You can't have that.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm not and you know me, I'm not like,
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  Speaker 5: oh my heavens, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know you want to boo, give the finger whatever, that's off,
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  Speaker 3: but you cannot touch an athlete, right, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Right too too comfortable, too comfortable, And it's all, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's all fun and games. When we all saw it
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  Speaker 5: on unfolded, it was harmless. But what happens if it
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  Speaker 5: was something different? What if the next guy says, I'm
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  Speaker 5: not just gonna take I'm gonna I'm gonna make do
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  Speaker 5: something so he can't catch the ball.
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  Speaker 3: Next, or what if in just what they call fun,
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  Speaker 3: they actually twisted Mookie BET's wrist or something, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like you can't do that, and and and then you can't, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we're going to back for Game five.
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  Speaker 5: No, I think that's I think that's a misstep by
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  Speaker 5: the Yankees. I didn't know about that. I didn't know
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  Speaker 5: if that was their plan.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, so anyway, I just wanted to bring
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  Speaker 3: that up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, I'm you know, kinda. I still
• 10:31
  Speaker 5: think the Dodgers will ultimately win the series, obviously, but
• 10:34
  Speaker 5: I was kind of glad that it got extended at
• 10:36
  Speaker 5: least seen you know.
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: I turned it off after six in and it was
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: five to four. I just couldn't stay up. But did
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  Speaker 3: Judge have any hits after that?
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  Speaker 5: He had one hit, but he just thought, does not
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  Speaker 5: look good at all.
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  Speaker 3: At least he was getting on base, he was walking,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 5: But I know you're you're very upset.
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  Speaker 3: I really like Aaron Judge. I hate the Yankees. I know,
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  Speaker 3: let's get that clear.
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  Speaker 5: I hate both teams, but at these are two of
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  Speaker 5: my all time hated franchises. But you know, being a
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  Speaker 5: selfish Boston sports fan and watching my baseball team no
• 11:04
  Speaker 5: longer try to compete. You know, I wanted these teams
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  Speaker 5: to have success because they go out there and they yeah,
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  Speaker 5: they have plenty of homegrown players, but they also spend
• 11:13
  Speaker 5: through the nose to get other players to get more talent.
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  Speaker 5: And that's how you do it in baseball. But the
• 11:19
  Speaker 5: Red Sox have decided they're not going to do it
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  Speaker 5: that way anymore. So I'm glad that these two teams
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  Speaker 5: spend all the money and they're going to be at
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  Speaker 5: the off of the heap.
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  Speaker 3: So now we go back to the Patriots because you
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  Speaker 3: mentioned spending and we're up against the trade deadline coming up.
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  Speaker 3: Reports that the Patriots are not just maybe looking to
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  Speaker 3: maybe trade guys away, but they're also looking maybe to
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  Speaker 3: pick guys.
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  Speaker 5: Up, did you I'm not familiar with that either, so
• 11:46
  Speaker 5: fill me in. Yeah, I got to do a little
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  Speaker 5: bit more show Prepp.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. It was one of the regular beat
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  Speaker 3: guys reporting that the Patriots in the market for wide
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  Speaker 3: receiver tackles.
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  Speaker 5: See I heard that Breer reported that the Patriots are
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  Speaker 5: taking calls on wide receivers. I took that to mean
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  Speaker 5: that they're looking to deal.
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  Speaker 3: With now looking to bring them in. So let me
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  Speaker 3: so if anyone wants to bring up my thing here,
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  Speaker 3: if anyone wants to send us any emails on that
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  Speaker 3: actual reporting, I'd be happy to read it. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there actually in the market both ways.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I I just don't know who they could be
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  Speaker 5: in the market to get. Like I saw, we got
• 12:36
  Speaker 5: an as PFW as an example, a gentleman's looking. So
• 12:40
  Speaker 5: the Ravens made the trade for Deontay Johnson. So they
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  Speaker 5: have a young receiver who played at North Carolina whose
• 12:46
  Speaker 5: name is escaping me right now, who hasn't really played.
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  Speaker 5: I think he's on the roster, but he hasn't played.
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  Speaker 5: Might the Ravens want to trade him to the Patriots?
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  Speaker 5: And I'm like, well, if he's a young receiver just
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  Speaker 5: because you know, like with the Patriots want to trade
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  Speaker 5: Javon Baker right now, right like he's a young receiver
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  Speaker 5: that they have that I assume they have some hope
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  Speaker 5: for down the stretch. I don't know why the Ravens
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  Speaker 5: would if he has any promise at all. You know,
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  Speaker 5: for all I know, he's a complete and total bus So.
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  Speaker 3: You want to trade a young guy like that, there's
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  Speaker 3: something wrong right right.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know why you would want to trade a
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  Speaker 5: young player. And that's what I would if I were
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: the Elliott Woolfe, I'd be looking to acquire young players
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  Speaker 5: that haven't had an opportunity to make a mark that
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  Speaker 5: you think that you might have a chance to develop.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like, like we talked about a few shows ago, like,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense now for the Patriots to take
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  Speaker 3: that guy that's at the end of his career because
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: we're not close. You know, by the time the Patriots
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  Speaker 3: are ready to contend for playoffs, that guy's going to
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  Speaker 3: be done, So why bring him on. They're looking for
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: that sweet spot of a guy who is at you know,
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  Speaker 3: maybe at the end of his first contract that you
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  Speaker 3: could bring in, you can extend and he's going to
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  Speaker 3: be here for the rebuild. But those guys aren't available for.
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  Speaker 5: It's a hard needle of thread, and I would absolutely
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  Speaker 5: be in. Uh, I'll be interested.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 5: In this one that one of our listeners brought up.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a I think it's a rookie that
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: played with Drake May last year at North Carolina. The
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  Speaker 5: profile I'm interested in, you know, I just I'm not
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  Speaker 5: sure why Baltimore unless he can't play, you know why
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  Speaker 5: Baltimore would be looking to get rid of, you know,
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  Speaker 5: a young guy with some promise.
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  Speaker 3: Justina Anderson is the person reporting it. She's her tweet
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  Speaker 3: is I'm told the Patriots are monitoring the trade market
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  Speaker 3: to potentially add talent at wide receiver, defensive tackle, or
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: tackle positions on the heels of the rousing twenty five
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  Speaker 3: twenty two win over the New York Jets. Per source. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: per source. So that's it, Yeah, that's it, Justina Anderson. Yeah, okay, Well,
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  Speaker 3: I mean she's reputable. You know, it's not musket fire, right, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: we would would you say that with a lot of dismissiveness.
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  Speaker 5: You know, because I did it. Called up the thing
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  Speaker 5: I saw this morning from Breer, and it says fielding
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  Speaker 5: calls for wide receivers and cornerbacks ahead of trade deadline.
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  Speaker 5: I took that to mean the Patriots were fielding calls
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  Speaker 5: from other teams looking to acquire their players.
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  Speaker 3: Now I saw that he says, I've heard they've gotten
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  Speaker 3: calls and their fielding calls on cornerbacks and wide receivers
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  Speaker 3: the names I've heard they've gotten calls on are actually interesting.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: It's kJ Osborne and Taekwon Thornton, And I think the
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: reason why Thornton has some value as teams is because
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: that's sort of speed. You can't coach it, right, So
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: every coach looks at a guy like that and says,
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: I can do something with him.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I had seen this morning, and I assumed
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: that that's what it was about. It was about trading
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: away players, not acquiring them. But evidently just seen Anderson
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  Speaker 5: is hearing the opposite, So we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: Well, listen, if you're a good GM, you're listening to everything.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Like I said, I don't think that they should
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  Speaker 5: be closed off to acquire if they can acquire talent
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  Speaker 5: that fits what they want to do. I'm not interested
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: in acquiring talent that's going to help them out in
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  Speaker 5: the last eight weeks now. I'm interested in acquiring a
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  Speaker 5: young player that they can work with and develop the
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  Speaker 5: way Elliot Wolf has talked about we want to be
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  Speaker 5: a draft and developed team.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: Well, if they can acquire some talent that is worth developing,
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  Speaker 5: I think that they should be interested in that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So interesting stuff in case people haven't seen it already.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: The miked up with Christian Gonzales dropped thought it was
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: a nice little piece, and Gerard Mayo mentioned it. I
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: heard you mentioned the micd up. So thank you, Coach
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Mayo for promoting our content.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's nice the way that works.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: So was there any good takeaways from Christian Gonzales.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: He doesn't really say much, but just how he went
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: about his business. Other guys, you know, on the bench.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: A lot of good stuff from the bench, and there
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: was one I don't want to give it away, but
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: there's one little kind of running thing that goes through
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: and then finishes at the end, you know, but I
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: don't want to give away that.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know, Mayo talked about Gonzales and we've
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: talked about how quiet he is, but he's pretty confident.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of similarities to Gilmore. And Mayo himself
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: said it today, you know that that there was some
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: some similarities there with you know, they were they were
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: two really quiet guys that had a lot of ability.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: And he mentioned too, He mentioned Revis too. Revis was
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: a little bit more.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Reavis would poke back when somebody would say something, but
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: for the most part, he wasn't talkative.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: No, but yeah, and Gilmore would Revis.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Gilmore was sneaky.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Gilmore and Gonzales are very similar. They do not lack
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: for confidence, but they're very quiet. Yeah, Revis was not
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: exactly Dion Sanders in his prime, but he was pretty cocky.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: I think there's a big difference between Revs and Gilmore Gonzales.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: But you're right, Revis wasn't a loud guy per se.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: But he also embraced the whole Revis Island thing. And
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: you know, stuff like that isn't like that position is interesting,
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: like to me.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Like you've got to have a short memory.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: And you have to have a lot of confidence. Yeah,
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: and I think Gonzo has that. I really do, I think,
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: And I liked I liked his game this week. I
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: know it wasn't perfect. I know people are probably critical
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: of me saying, well, what was the difference? You know,
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: he had penalty there, you know, probably should have had
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: another penalty at another time. But I just I liked
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: his game. I liked the way he he competed in
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: that game on Sunday, more so than I thought the
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: last couple Yeah.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I think this, this what he's doing now is going
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: to help him in that not just his confidence, but
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: its competitiveness, like he's gonna want more of it. It's
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: going to become addictive, and he's not gonna want to lose.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: And I think that's what separates the really good cornerbacks
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: from the not. They hate getting beat and it doesn't
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: even matter if it's in a game or in practice,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: like it's a you know, it's an affront to them
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: to get beat even on the you know, the shortest pass.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: And I'd like to see more of that. Yeah, him,
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: That's what I want to say. He didn't have that
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: in practice exactly. He's only didn't have it in training.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: He would lay off, you know, like it's just practice.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: And I and not for a second do I think
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: he was getting torched every day. But it just didn't
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: seem like he was like really like ty Law used
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: to hate giving up completions, right, you know, So I
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: just wonder, you know, I wonder if he's maybe turning
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: a corner in that regard. So, you know, with the
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: Drake May stuff to Freddy, you know, the concussion thing
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: we talked we had the emailer yesterday was talking about
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: sort of the inequities with some of these guys. They
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: get hit and the they get one guy gets taken out,
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: one guy doesn't, so you know, and the whole Josh
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: Allen got knocked out thing. And I said, I'm not
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: sure he got knocked out. So I went back and
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: I looked at a lot of stuff after because I
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: was the same stuff that we're talking about now, Like
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: I didn't see the Justina Anderson thing. You know, maybe
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: I missed this. So I did see what a lot
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: of people are talking about. Pat McAfee said he was
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: knocked out. Some some doctor who I don't think is
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: affiliated with the league in any way, said he was
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: clearly knocked out. And I watched it again and I
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: still do not see any indications that he was quote
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: unquote knocked out, like just out. Now, that doesn't mean
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: he didn't have a concussion, right, maybe he did, but
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: he was taken out of the game. He did miss
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: a play and was evaluated and they deemed him okay
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: to go back in. You can say that that was
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: an error. I just don't. I don't know if I
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: can make the jump that there's.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Different rules, right.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: You know, like this is a rookie. They're going to
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: protect a rookie.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: They get a lot of trouble if that came out
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: as right.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: Like, you know, I've seen a lot of examples, like
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: like Tua had had a concussion three years ago. I
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: want to say against Buffalo where early in the game
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: he hit his head, hit the back of his head,
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: He get up and he he almost not normal. He staggered,
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: you know, like he was like rubber legged, and he
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: kind of regained his compos stayed in the game, and
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: then obviously the next week against Cincinnati, he had another
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: concussion that put him out for a little while. So
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: these things happened. It's an imperfect science. Yeah, you know,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: sort of evaluating these head injuries.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: I remember, but I.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: Just like the whole Like I guess, I'm going to
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: push back. I'm gonna apologize a little to the email
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: because I saw a lot of the stuff that he
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: was talking about where people were the armchair doctors saying
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: that he was knocked out. I personally didn't see him
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: knocked out. Doesn't mean that you didn't see him knocked out.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: So I want to I wanted to just put that
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: out there and apologize a little bit for pushing back
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: on that terminology, the knocked out terminology.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Things have changed. I remember playing soccer and we had
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: this like I don't know if he was a pro,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: and he was not at practice, and so he was playing.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: I was playing goalie and I went down low because
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: he was on a breakaway and he kicked me in
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: the head. Oh, and I went down and they say, like,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: my eyes rolled up to the top. I kept playing.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: You know, probably had a concussion. Who knows.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: I've I thought about that a lot, Like with all
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: the the attention on concussions, I'm not sure I ever
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: had a concussion. I mean I definitely did. I definitely
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: hit my head and had like that.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I still have a bump in the back of my
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: head from third grade where Michael MERCEDI. I went up
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: to catch a ball. He hit me, was in the
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: parking lot, literally broke cracked my skull and blood everywhere,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: and I still have the bump. I know I had it.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: My favorite part of growing up Kersh is the fact
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: that you grew up, obviously in a predominantly Italian neighborhood,
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: Irish and Italian. It's it's it's Ron, it went to
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: Catholic school. It's Richie Campanella. Oh yeah, Michael, Michael Messidi
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: Ronna Robinson. He doesn't Vincent Benatoula. See, it's just it's Matt.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: It's just awesome. He grew up with my people. Yeah,
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: and Fred, I just want to point out, is this.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: The proper that's a three quarter?
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: This is a proper distance down from my quarter.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Zip to the nipser body equal to it?
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, all right? So I just you know, when
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: I was picked out my attire this morning, I said,
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: what will Fred most want to make fun of me
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: about today?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I think that's how you should go about life. Yeah,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: just you know, you know, reserve that space in your
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: head for me.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: Perfect. Yeah, you've had a full residency there for quite
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: some time.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right? Eight five five pass five hundred is
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: the TPX outline. Web radio at Patriots dot com is
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: the email address. We're waiting for Deuce, who should be
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: here momentarily. Evan will be here later after practice, but
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: they're in the locker room getting the mood. I'm sure
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: everyone's gonna be asking about Drake and all that stuff,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: but you know, it's it's a game. I think that
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: you know, Patriots are riding a one game winning streak
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: right now, and I think they want to make it too.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: You didn't know comment on the one game winning streak.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: Well, I just like the fact that you made a
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: big thing of like and they want to win another
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: Like I'm going to actually thank you alongside. Now, I
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: always give Felger credit for this, but I think i've
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: I think it's a misstep. I think I should be
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: thinking Fred and Mike that's right for explaining to us
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: all how they want to win. Nuke l Loose taught
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: us that, you know what I mean, Like, I love winning,
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It's like better than losing.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean, Like we gotta win. And
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: you and you you people that that don't think it's
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: important to win. You know what? Do you know?
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: You want that draft pick?
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: Trust me, you don't want to be one of those teams. Fred,
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: you don't want to be a two wins.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: You don't want to You don't want that culture. No,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: you don't want that coach a losing culture. You don't
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: want that the losers. We're not losers. Winners. I'm a winner,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: right Who said that? Who was that coach? Recently?
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: That that was an old one, But Dick vermil I'm
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: a winner. We're a winner's boss.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Uh, let's go to the TPX outline. Get people involved.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Eric is calling in from New Jersey. What's up, Eric?
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: Hey, haven't guys, I'm doing today. That's what It's a
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: tree topics. And I think one you just brought up
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: with the winning, you know, that losing culture. You know,
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: I even called myself this past uh this past week, uh,
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: you know, chasing that draft pick, you know, wanting you know,
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: wanting the you know, wanting Drake and you know, specific
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: players to do well, but you know, chasing you know,
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: hoping that you losing get that draft pick, and that
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: you know, I kind of call it myself, and I
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: just think that such a negative viewpoint on you know,
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: it's kind of just the state of the you know,
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: the organizations in the past couple of years. So it's yeah,
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: definitely that hits home here. But the second part is
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: with the Tom Kerran and kind of just the you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: the front office just kind of like the lack of faith.
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: Tom Kerr was talking about, you know, possibly trading for
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: a thirty four year old Adams see winning and possibly
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: extending them. Uh, you know, just moves like that just
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: makes me, uh, it's I don't understand where you again
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: just see the replication of the skill set of players. Uh,
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: I kind of brings them. Like I said to the
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: front office, when you bring in Austin Hooper likes a player.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: But again the similar players, the type you know, the
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: hunter Henry, you still didn't kind of didn't quite bring
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: in that blocking tight end. It's just the then you
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: have you the draft Jalen Polk was again kind of
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: similar to Michael Bord, I mean, kens of Born. It's
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: like the we kind of get the similar player to
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: the players that we already signed or we already have
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: on the roster, and it was just not bringing these
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: different guilts that to compliment, you know, on the roster,
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: and there's just want to take your year, your opinions off,
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: and I'll take it off the line of Kinks guys.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, thanks Eric, I'm quite sure I follow that about
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: the types of players you bring in similar, But I
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: will say this.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: Do you think there's like a specific skill set of
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: a player that you think would best fit with Drake
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: May because I'm not sure. I mean, I just want
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: to catch the ball, yeah, I just want more athleticism
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: on the field. More game breakers, more playmakers.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but something that he said that kind of made
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: me think we were talking about the type of free
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: agent that you'd want to bring in that sweet spot
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: of where they are in their career and you know,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: so that they're here for the rebuild. What about this though,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: What if there is a tackle available, you might only
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: have him for the rest of this year. But money
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: isn't really an issue because they got plenty of cap rooms,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: so that's not it. That's not an issue. And but
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: you bring him in here just to boost the offensive
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: line to help his development this year to.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but who like, well, I don't know, but I'm
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: just saying I just don't think there are a lot
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: of players like that that would be available that would
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: be better than what you have. Like we talk about
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: the guy from Jacksonville all the time.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Everybody brings up jets to like, you know what, Tyrone Smith,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: you can go over there, Like would it be worth
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: just you know, giving him four million dollars for the
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: rest of the year, just just to you know, have that.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: And so Drake has a little bit more ability to
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: kind of develop this season.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: don't know if that'd be worth it. Yeah, I mean
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: I know it couldn't hurt on the field, no, But
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know that that would be something that would
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: be realistic.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know why.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Not, because why are the Jets doing that?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Because because they're like, screw it, the season's over, you know.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: But okay, yeah, don't.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just saying somebody like a Tyrone Smith
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: that yeah, he's not going to be here for the rebuild,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: but he knows how to play the position, and.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: They want to play Sorry, yeah, I was pronounced that incorrectly,
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: didn't want to play their rookie tackle that they you know,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: why not.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Just to give may some a little bit more help
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: so we can see him develop a little bit more,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: you know, uh, make better evaluations on his game, that
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: type of thing. I was just thinking about that. The
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: other thing I was thinking that you know that Eric
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: was calling about, was, you know, he had gone back
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: and forth about wanting that draft pick in this particular draft, Like,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: who is it that you know you're so hot to
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: get at number one.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing is, I don't think that. First
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: of all, I see it almost impossible for them not
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: to be say in the top seven, right, you're going
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: to get a good player, so you're going to be
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: in a good spot, and there's nobody specific that you
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: need to get, right. I think Travis Hunter looks like
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: a really, really good prospect, but I don't think he's
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: as highly regarded as say like Marvin Harrison and elite
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: neighbors last year. Now, maybe as a cornerback he's better
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: than a wide receiver. I don't know exactly how all
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: these evaluators are going to look at him.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: He's yeah, I just don't I don't know. He's like
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy pounds or something.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: Well, I think he's bigger than that, but he's small.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: He's not a huge guy. I look up his size
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: I just I just don't think that you have to
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: necessarily do both, Like I don't think you need to.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: I don't think you need to be doing anything in
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: terms of not wanting to win games because it's gonna spoil.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: Like there's a lot of people that don't even know
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: if the tackles are worth taking in the top ten, right,
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: So if that happens, then really, what are you doing yep.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Let's see, let's go to Eldred, North Carolina. What's up Aldred? Hey, Okay,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: he's not he's not tiny question, Yes, sir, Walker, that was.
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: Made wide receiver. You got pretty good speed's pretty good size.
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: But some time he had the drops and he's not.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Is he any good.
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: They do for me?
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: They had good.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: So do you think he's good?
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: I take a flower?
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, my guest to That's that's my point.
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: The route running. I think he's blowing the route running right.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: So we probably needs some time to develop. And then
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: you know, Baltimore is obviously going to go all in
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: on this year. They don't have reps to give him
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: to try to develop him while they're trying to win. Now,
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: so it's Zay Flowers, it's gonna be Deontay Johnson. Now,
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be Rashad Bateman and even Nelson Agalore. But
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: you know, a guy like a is probably not part
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: of their long term plans and they want your guy
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: to to to maybe replace him, you know, in the future.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: So I just think that especially organizations like Baltimore that
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: have done a really good job of acquiring talent, their
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: personnel department has been really, really good. I would be
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: surprised if they wanted to give up on a guy
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: like that if he's that good, right, you know, And.
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: Like I say, he's pretty good back back back home.
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: But like I said, the problem is the route running.
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: But he doesn't lock down whatever the thing. Yeah, like
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: I said, for getting open, it gets to be. I
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: don't think he's fast and thought, but I think he's
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: just I think he got a four three. I think
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: he ran a four three forty if ain't.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Mistaken, trade him one for one thought for him?
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I got a question to play you though,
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: Let's do it. I understand I'm kind of like Field
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: in a way. Uh, trade away a young past er
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: you couldn't get no better than a sixth, you know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: death like what Bill was doing getting, you know, trading
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: Mason got a four or fearful whatever, the Pro Bowl guard.
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: And that's what I can't understand.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, money has a lot to do with it
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: as well, and the you know, the where he is.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: In his anything to do with this trade?
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Do you change? No, Mason? You know you have to
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: pay the guy.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: A third or you know he's not but he's not
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: worth a third though, Eldred like, he's not like he
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: has like twenty career sacks in five years, like four
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: and a half years. Like, why is someone going to
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: give you a second or third round pick for that?
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: Maybe because they were using him right here and they're
• 33:21
  Speaker 8: not using right where he's going.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: Oh, I'm not telling you that he's I'm not telling
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: you he's without talent. He was a second round pick,
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: but he obviously hasn't panned out. And I just don't know.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: If you want to give him away, then sure, team
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: like Kansas City will say we're going to be there
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: at the end of the year. They never have enough.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Pass feeling though, that there was something else going on
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: with him.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, I don't think. I don't think he
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: I don't think he fits.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: I've got a weird vibe from him the whole year.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: It just went.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I think his problem was was
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: I might he signed He signed a bad deal and
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: immediately regretted it. That's what I think his mental you know,
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: like from him, his mentality. But I don't I don't
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: think he fits the way the Patriots want to play defense.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: They want their guys to be more physical out there.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: Like Anthony Jennings. Now personally, it doesn't matter to me.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: Like one does one thing really well, the other guy
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: does another thing really well. Mike has said this a
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: million times. If I could combine those two players right right,
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: you know, then you have something.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: So Mike is back and you were in the locker room.
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: Back from the locker room?
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: What was the mood where the players friendly to that
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: none of them look.
• 34:37
  Speaker 9: Like Derek Henry?
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: Hey, Mike, what was it like in the locker room?
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: What was it like in the locker room?
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: So, Mike, what was it like in the locker room?
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: I thought there was a little energy today, you know,
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of the guys talking, uh felt
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: like trying to build off of last week.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: That seemed like the Now where did most of your
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: talking take place in the locker room or in the
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: REVS area?
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: I made sure to observe both areas. I want to,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: you know, give you guys the full report. So I
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: was in the locker room for a little bit, a
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: lot of little interviews going on over there, and then
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: I went to the REVS locker room. We heard from
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Jelanie to Vai Key on White, Jonathan Jones, as well,
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: so the defensive guys again trying to talk about building
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: off of last week. I know Brissett said it in
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: his press conference, trying to you know, capture that momentum
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: that they kind of had at the end of that
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: game and build off of it. But I love Keon
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: White like this the way he I mean, I know
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: I apparently have a blind spot form when he's actually
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: playing football, but when he's actually talking in the locker room,
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: he's just so even keeled, and you know it wasn't
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: really impressed with what they did, and you know, just
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: said doesn't really mean much. We got to keep going,
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: we have to get better. It still wasn't good enough.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: I like listening to him, Yeah, I do. We had
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: one that you and I were together in the summer
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: that we both came away like he's really good, really
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: self aware.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: You know, when you talk about this team needing like
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: a like new leadership kind of phase of young guys
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: coming up. I just really like his his kind of
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: edge and he you know, he's not the same guy.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: And then we talk about Willie McGinnis a lot as
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: a tone setter and you know, one of the originators
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: of the Patriot way. I think key On White has
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: a little bit of that in him. Of you know,
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: I remember there was a story earlier in the year
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: of him and Dietrich Wise where they were kind of
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: competing on squats and squat amounts, and like that felt
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: like the old Patriots to me, of guys really doing
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: extra pushing each other. It doesn't have to be the
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: most vocal guy, you know, certainly he's not the you know,
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: raw raw kind of energy guy. But I just I
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: really liked the message he consistently delivers it, and I
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: would a message.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: You know, I have a question for Mike. Did you
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: talk to our media colleagues at all about Mayo and
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: Drake may No?
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: No, and you're you're wondering about a conversation we had
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: of exactly where he is in the concussion.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: So we you know, when Fred and I opened the show,
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: we talked about Mayo and we said, you know, kind
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: of a little like a slight really good news. I
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: would say, you know, if Fred let off, it's a
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: good we got some good news that he's actually going
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: to be out there throwing or throwing the ball around
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: for thirty minutes or whatever. Right, So I think there
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: was a little confusion, and I was wondering if the
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: other writers stuff for right, if the other writers thought
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: the same thing, or if it's just something that you
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: and I were being a little dorky about.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I should have I should have done that. Now
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: in retrospect, I should have maybe dug a little bit,
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: And I'm sure, like I don't know what we have before.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: I'm sure was probably trying to check boxes with that
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: kind of thing, because he's very meticulous about details, this
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: kind of thing.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: So we talked about it. We don't have to rehash it.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: I just was curious to know if any of the
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: other writers thought, whoa is he in the third step
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: or the fourth step?
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well either way, he's not in one or two,
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: I would say, So that's probably the first thing.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: If he was in one, you got major you got
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: major problems. Yeah, Like that's Fred's that he's in the
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: dark room somewhere. They can't even let them.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: But but I think it's a bad thing to have
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: like rigid steps because everybody's different, you know, like the
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: doctor should just say, okay, I think you need another
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: couple of days, like putting you in step one.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: Now you can do this, but it's but it's symptom free,
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: then you can do X. Then if you're symptom free
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: doing X, you can do why. That's how it works.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just found myself wondering, like some days I
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: don't know what you guys, I'm getting old, Like some
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: days I kind of have a headache, like is it
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: like is it so cut and dry? Like no, I
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: feel great.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know. But if you ever had a headache
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: where you couldn't remember things, or.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Probably he got hit by a two by four, then
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: it's different.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: It's like I had an Italian guy that gave him
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: a bump on the back of the head.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Grey, Why's he gotta be an Italian guy?
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: Because he was. All of Fred's stories involved like Richie
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: Campanella and Vincent Ventatula, Michael Michael Mercedi.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: They're picking on the young kersh And you.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Know, like I always say, who's the only group that
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: you can still make fun of?
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Making fun of Iris?
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: Irish? Irish are one and two.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: There we go.
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: Irish and Italians.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Just happened to be their name. That's all.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: No repercussions anything.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Else from the locker room.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: Mike, you know number ten, did not see number ten.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: A lot of conversations with Joe Milton, though, I think
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: people are a little interested if Joe Milton potentially could
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: be the next man up at the quarterback position. A
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: lot of conversations with kJ Osborne as well, talking.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: About considerably j Osborne talk.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: You know, could he could he get traded?
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'd be Joe Milton. Stuff like that kind
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: of stuff always fascinates me.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: How oh people just love that.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: They love to clutch the pearls about the backup quarterback.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Any media talk about the Justina Anderson tweet?
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: No, no, oh, the trade that open for bespring people
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: in not no, not that, not that I heard. But
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: I mean I've seen plenty of tweets from our media
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: corps that I think, you know, I think people be
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: open to it. I think Evan had a tweet about
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Montes Sweat last year where the you know Bears went
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: and got him and signed him to an extension and
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: now he's, you know, part of their defensive fabric. So
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: I think just because you're not on the verge of
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: trying to make a playoff run, there are moves out
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: there that you could, you know, potentially talk yourself into
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: certainly a guy that you know they're able to retain
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: for a while. I just it's so hard trying to
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: predict who it might be. There's not a lot of people.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: Who are I would absolutely be looking to make a
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: deal like that. A younger guy that you could see
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: is part of your future.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Maybe make a jump. I mean I've said before, I mean,
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: I know, you know, Elliot Wolf's been around for a
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: little while. I'm sure that there are guys that he
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: really likes out there that you know. Maybe it's hard
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: for us to tell, but being in the league and
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: studying all the personnel, and you know, I mean even
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I remember that guy from the draft.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: I really liked him. You know, if you have an
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: opportunity to get one of those guys you remember liking,
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: maybe you jump on the opportunity.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Let's see this is Andrew writes in says Belichick didn't
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: leave the team with a lot of talent, but he
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: definitely left the team with a healthy salary cap. Just
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: a few thoughts on the Patriots financials for twenty twenty five.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Critics point to a talent gap, but the salary cap
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: tells a different story. For twenty twenty five thirty seven
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: million in cap this year, with one hundred and thirty
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: three million projected next year. Only four players Henry and
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: when you Dugger and Barmore will make more than ten million,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty seven million in spending power with
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: forty two players returning. And then he cites this over
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: the cap website. Have you seen it? A decent site?
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: Jason's like Miguel, he does that stuff.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It ranks the Patriots seventeenth for value on contracts,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: a solid position with room for growth. This metric compares
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: PFF grade to the contract to determine if team is
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: overpaying for their players. So with that said, he's wondering,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: you know, are there any players in their free agent page?
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: And I looked at it. It's it's a long list
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: of free you know, decent free agents.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: Can I have a list of the bottom five in
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: that category? Does he have that? Or just the Patriots?
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Let's see you want.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: The over the Wow, he hot linked his email and everything.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: It's I mean, it's exactly.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: I'm listening. I'm listening to him say that there's seventeenth
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: in like sort of contract value. So is the team
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: that's like thirty second in contract value to say the
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: Carolina Panthers, to which I'd say, oh, that's better to be.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: Or is it like, you know, the Baltimore Ravens.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's gonna do a little yeah sotal researcher. I
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: just say in regards to next year, minute's just there
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: aren't a lot of in house pieces to worry about
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: next year. I mean, you know Jonathan Jones, but it's
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: not like you have bar More Doug or you know
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: all those contracts that were pending last year that you
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: had to figure out, Like, there's not really anything internally.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: I feel like that's hanging over their eyes.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: I just can't embrace the idea that things are better
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: than you think because this cap space, like a CASA space,
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: does not translated to success.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: Now it scares me because I want to draft, develop, retain,
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: and there's nobody really to retain. So now you're stuck
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: having to go to free agency. And I think that
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: it's you know, it's risky with some of those spots
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: of you know, overpaying on certain guys like I just
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know what's your question.
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: Paul, Because he's seventeenth, he had the Patriots seventeenth in
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: contract value. Who's like the bottom five teams in that the.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Worst, the worst Lions, bottom of the barrel.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: I need I need no more done. I'm done. That's
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: exactly what I was thinking. Yeah, the nerds think that
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: those contracts are bad value because they gave everybody they
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: they have drafted very well, and everybody got an extension,
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: big extent like penisul. Yeah, they signed a lot of
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: high money, big money incentive extensions, and they arguably have
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: the best talent in the league. I'll take the best
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: talent in the league and bad value. I'll take that
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: any day of the week.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Right, And you know, are you surprised to find out
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: that the Bills are number four, like at the top? Right?
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: Perfect? Yeah, so the good teams are at the bottom.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Right, No, that's he meant the other way. No, the
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: other way.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: Oh well, they just sheded a lot of talent.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's right, you're right.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: But remember you guys all told me.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: It's both arms together.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: I did.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: Now those are hands.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: As long as as long as you have now the
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: big difference, I'm not going to be fraudulent. Buffalo's talent
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: top to bottom is not on par with Detroit's but
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: they have a quarterback that is so.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: I don't think this really changes any rhyme or reasons.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would agree with that the Chiefs are
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: right behind the Patriot.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: Especially when you're right in the middle of seventeen.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: I just my larger point is I don't like that
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: people like so Bill Belichick didn't do a good job
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: because he left a salary cap in a good spot.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry Bill's last three four or five years we
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: were awful, and in terms of personnel, they're not any
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: better because he didn't tie them down with bad personnel
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: on bad contracts. Yeah, it's not that's not better to
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: me like that have a lot of having a lot
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: of cap space is not always a great thing.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: It's interesting to me because I'm I find myself a
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: little you know, one I head to the off season
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: a little bit is balancing. We know what positions they need,
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: but balancing what what positions make more sense maybe with
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: a veteran and doesn't have to be I'm not saying
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: like a thirty two year old veteran, but I love
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: like they did a couple of years ago, guys coming
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: off their first contract. But does it make you know,
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: you kind of divvy up. All right, they're definitely gonna
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: need an edge guy, they're gonna need a tackle, they're
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: gonna need you know, you know, try to get a
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: really good wide receiver. What makes the most sense. Like
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: sometimes I feel like at least for like a defensive
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: let's just say, not a big knee, but defensive tackle,
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: Like might like to get a veteran in there. You know,
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: like you know what you're getting. It's an established position
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: if you've done it once, you're like.
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: A younger Lawrence guy, like yep.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Perfect perfect, you know, but with someone like the weapons
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: stuff where you're getting expensive, I might prefer to go
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: to the draft. I don't have like a firm philosophy.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: That's an interesting the.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: Receiver for the receivers, I'd like to do both. But yeah,
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: I totally agree with your premise, Mike. You know, there's
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: certain spots that you don't necessarily like you're probably not
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: going to be able to sign a left tackle. And
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: free agency, Yes, Orlando Brown moved in free agency a
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: couple of years ago. He's you know, big money, big
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: money guy that moved a couple of times. That's kind
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: of rare.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the franchise, twenty six year old coming off somehow
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: getting to.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: Free and somehow he's on a team that doesn't want
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: to keep him, and he's really good, you know. I
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: mean they move like Trent Williams moved.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: I mean it was a little different.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Happy.
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: There's a little different because he was unhappy with where
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: he was and got his way out of there. But
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: I think that's a position that I would say, probably
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: need to address it in the draft. Yeah, whereas receiver,
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: I think you need to do both because you need
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: more than one.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, TPX outline eight five to five Pats five hundred.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Aaron is in Toronto. What's up, Aaron?
• 46:26
  Speaker 10: Hey?
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Everyone?
• 46:27
  Speaker 11: I want to run by some over unders by you.
• 46:30
  Speaker 11: That's cool? Yeah, okay, First, over or under zero point
• 46:35
  Speaker 11: five players on the Patriots will finish the season with
• 46:38
  Speaker 11: double digit.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Attacks, double digits.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: I'm going to say under just forced the team.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: I think, so.
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: I'll say I think.
• 46:54
  Speaker 11: Second, the Patriots will have over or under one and
• 46:58
  Speaker 11: a half.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Pro bowlers over under one and a half Pro bowlers
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: under yeah, probably under Well, you're talking first team Pro
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: bowlers because they might have some alternates.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: I'm going to say under schoolers a lock either or.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: I mean Baringer could make it.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: I didn't say who you mean that they that it's
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: over under one and a.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Half, I'll say over one and a half, I'll say
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: over cool.
• 47:23
  Speaker 11: I'm not sure if I heard you mentioned Gonzo, but
• 47:25
  Speaker 11: I think he should make it this year.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Next year.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Well, there's other people he's going on.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: I think it's just more of a popularity contest with
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: these I feel like it's not.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: It's also he's only done it for Yeah, he hasn't
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: even done it for a full season.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean in Fred's qualifier is accurate too, Like,
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: is he going to get it over like Patrick Chartan?
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: Probably not? But is you know, is he going to
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: be one of four corners five corners that ends up
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: being named Pro Bowl and maybe?
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 47:51
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 47:52
  Speaker 11: Hey, I'm not calling him an All Projects yet.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: He's not an All Pro man.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: No.
• 47:57
  Speaker 11: But lastly, the Patriots will win over under two and
• 48:00
  Speaker 11: a half games for the rest of the season, two
• 48:03
  Speaker 11: and a half over the rest of the season.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: So so wait, so they win three more games or two?
• 48:10
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, so they could end up with five. That's a
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: tough one. Can I push I think that's what I
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: end up. I think they're gonna win a half. I
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: think they're gonna win three more games.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: Oh that's over then, Yeah, I'll take the over because
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: I work for the Patriots.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, all right, yeah, all right, thanks thanks Aaron.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: I like over unders. That was fun.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Why did this just freeze up? Now?
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know?
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Oops, it's the mouse?
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: Hell so well, Fred's trying to fix this.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Hold on, No, I got it, I got it ready.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Kendall in North Carolina? What's up, Kendall, Hey, it's going on?
• 48:52
  Speaker 13: I got a question. Yeah, yeah, with the trade deadline,
• 48:57
  Speaker 13: where the Patriots or any team with the day being
• 48:59
  Speaker 13: wind today and which is when teams normally start game
• 49:02
  Speaker 13: playing for the week, if a trade is going to
• 49:04
  Speaker 13: happen anything, would they be like a Monday or Tuesday
• 49:07
  Speaker 13: thing or did it happen anything.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: I think you're in the red. You're in the anytime
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: right now between now and next Tuesday. But I dispect
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: deadlines sper actions, so probably you know next Monday tuesdays
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: when you're gonna.
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: Hear I mean, I think it's probably not a stretch
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: to say that. Josh Ucha, Sorry, Joshua, Hush mister Joshua
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: was probably traded before that game. I believe the parameters
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: of that trade were already in place before that game
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: and that's why he was inactive. That would be my guess.
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean for the most part, you're going
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: to find out about those things early in the week.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: You might have a team with the disappointing loss this
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: weekend they feel like they got to make a move Monday, Tuesday,
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: next week.
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it could happen anytime, though. I think Mike is
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: right about that. I think you know, you don't have
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: it doesn't have to be, but for practical purposes.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: It's probably something matter when you know you got to make.
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: Probably something that happens early in the week, and then
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: you can sort of figure out if you want to
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: try to get that guy involved in that game.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: Yeahs saying in the locker room too, Jonathan Jones, you know,
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: being asked about Roachie. It was funny. It was like,
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: you know, Rochie's like, how have you enjoyed your time
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: in New England? And Jonathan Jones is like, I feel.
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: Like you're trying to push me out already, But that
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: is an odd It's not like you just got here
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: and I really, I mean, listen, they can trade anybody
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: like the Patriots could. I would be very surprised if
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: he's one of the veterans that got moved. Yeah, that
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: one would really surprise me.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Paul writes in from the colony. He said, Fred, where
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: are you getting that info on the stupid Yankee fans?
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: The New York Post just said the fans are banned
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: from game six as well. The next game is game five.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: But anyway, Uh, the fans initially told ESPN that they
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: were told they'd be allowed to return for Wednesday Game five,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: which the Yankees force were there. Yeah, so they were
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: told I don't know, that's what I heard.
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: Yankees can't ban them from the game. That Game six
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: is in l a right if it takes place, right.
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: What did you hear? Fred?
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: I heard that the ya being celebrated back for Game
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: five and like as conquering him.
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: I hadn't heard that.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: Did you see the struggle like they have there?
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: Did you see the guy's face?
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like a two year old trying to
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: get it.
• 51:19
  Speaker 14: So the fans told ESPN that security told them they
• 51:22
  Speaker 14: would be allowed back for Game five.
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: Fred is right, so that they were sports right now.
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: Oh not me. I didn't say that guy, you know that.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Wasn't direct Paul in the colony.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, I was like, not you, I didn't. I
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: haven't heard anything about any repercussions with those guys. If
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: I were, if I was in charge of the Yankees,
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: they'd be banned for life. I wouldn't let him back
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: because but you're talking about that look on the guy's face.
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: That guy had malice in his eyes. Like Fred was saying, like,
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: but what if it didn't end so innocently. What if
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: he's like twisting the glove and all of a sudden
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: he twists the wrists and monkey bets is out.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: It's funny when the ump came over and was like
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: yelling at him, and they were.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: Like and they're like, they're trying to plead their case.
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: He was in like, this doesn't this has very little
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: to do with fan interference. You were like, you grabbed
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: the guy's glove and twisted it.
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: Salt, Yes, it's a salt brother Mookie's skinny.
• 52:21
  Speaker 14: And according to ESPN, they had discussed pregame what they
• 52:23
  Speaker 14: would do if a fall ball came there.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: Oh jeez, we're gonna go get it.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Hey, it's it's idiot. You cannot encourage that type of behavior.
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: I agree. That's why I was surprised when Fred said that.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: The my buddy Kyle Brent went as uh as what
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: was his name? Hert what was the kid's name from
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: the Cubs that Uh.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: I'm so shocked that Kyle Brent dressed up for Oh no.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: He had that Who is the kid? The Cubs kid
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: with the headphone Steve Bartman. I want to say, oh yeah,
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: remember that man, he was the one who like screw is.
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: Now the New York Post is saying that the fans
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: are banned according to the post game five for Game five. Yeah, yeah,
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: which they should be. They should be absolutely Just don't.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: Let him sit near the field.
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: All right, let's go back to the phone to look
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: in the guy's face. It wasn't like Fred, Fred's so right.
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: It was like a two year old trying to get
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: his blocks back from the other kid.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god. Uh, Alex is an Augusta. What's
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: up Alex?
• 53:22
  Speaker 12: Hey guys, time, long time, but all happy and healthy.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 53:27
  Speaker 12: I got a stat here the last of the Jets.
• 53:29
  Speaker 12: Do you guys want it?
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: What a stat of what.
• 53:35
  Speaker 12: It's a stat over the last forty years or so,
• 53:40
  Speaker 12: so the Jets score twenty plus points and committed zero
• 53:43
  Speaker 12: turnovers last week. They also held their oponents under two
• 53:47
  Speaker 12: hundred and fifty yards an offense right from nineteen forty
• 53:50
  Speaker 12: until yet until Sunday, the teams were seven hundred and
• 53:54
  Speaker 12: fifty six and zero while doing that.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, now, the Deaths are the only ones that lost. Yes,
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: we talked about that yesterday. Thanks Alex. That's a good stat.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Wasn't there another stat like that from the Cincinnati win?
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: A similar I'm forgetting what it was, but a similar
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: kind of like, this is the first team a team
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: time a team has racked up this many yards with
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't remember what the new the exact detail,
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: but it feels like these Patriots are breaking these records
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: like left and right.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Well, in this case, the Jets did, but yeah, the
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: Patriots all part of it, right.
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: And we made the point that even though they technically
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: didn't have a turnover, they had a lot of turnover
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: worthy plays, like when you miss two extra points in
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: a field goal, when you snap the ball to a
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: quarterback who's in the shotgun and fumble in the red zone, you.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Get a delay of game, you get a delay of game.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: You know, like they did a lot of things that
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: you know, all was sixty two yard part return. Those
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: things are like turnovers.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Ernie's in Tennessee. What's up, Ernie?
• 54:51
  Speaker 10: Ooh, I'm enjoying you guys. I'm excited. I'm going to
• 54:55
  Speaker 10: the Titans game. I picked the Titans game this weekend.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Ernie, So do you do? You live close to Nashville
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: about an hour. What's the best ribs place in Nashville?
• 55:08
  Speaker 10: Best ribs place? It's my house?
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, so you're cooking?
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: What time should Fred be there?
• 55:17
  Speaker 11: So?
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: I've been to Martins and that was pretty good.
• 55:20
  Speaker 10: I don't go to Nashville that often. The only time
• 55:22
  Speaker 10: I've been to Nashville is to go to the hospital
• 55:25
  Speaker 10: the Vanderbilt.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: So okay, I don't really go.
• 55:28
  Speaker 10: There all right that much? Okay, I stay. I'm in Clarksville,
• 55:32
  Speaker 10: so little twenty of restaurants here, so that's where I stay.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, there's both.
• 55:37
  Speaker 12: A good weather.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: Yep. Weather's gonna be nice.
• 55:41
  Speaker 10: Yep, it would be really nice. My son and I
• 55:44
  Speaker 10: both bought the jerseys for the for the game.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 55:48
  Speaker 10: My son got a good Drake May jersey, and I
• 55:52
  Speaker 10: got a Mike Rabel jersey.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: There you go, nice new school, old school duce where
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: you're sitting in the nosebleed noseblea. Okay, yeah, all right,
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 56:07
  Speaker 10: I got a question how to get in touch with
• 56:11
  Speaker 10: Patriot spans from Nashville.
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: Or that area.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you want to get to the Nashville Uh,
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: go to Patriots dot com and go into the fan zone.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: And once you get into the fan zone, there your
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: thing there called fan Club Registry. Go into that and
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: type in Nashville and you'll get the contact information for
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: the Nashville Patriots Fan Club.
• 56:36
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: And it's an email address, and I think there might
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: even be a phone number, but you can email the
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: president of the fan club and and get you know, uh,
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: get involved with them. The guy that runs the club
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: is he's awesome, he's he's excellent.
• 56:54
  Speaker 10: Okay, great, thank you.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, you're welcome, Ernie And all right.
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: Fine, Ernie. Yeah, yeah, I was waiting dues for for
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: Fred to put out like the call like you know,
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: Nashville Patriots fans.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: You don't have to put the call for Nashville fans.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: They they know how to gather. They know how to gather.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised I haven't heard of something for Saturday night. Yeah.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: So if you know Barry in Seong.
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: You just want to like go and enjoy it, like
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: after you know, putting on the big shindig that you didn't, right.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: I just want to be with the people.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no speeches this time.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So my plan is to go to Martin's. But
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: you got to get there early because they do run
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: out because they only have a certain amount. Every night
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: they run out of ribs. Yeah. Oh yeah, they run
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: out of ribs. They only make a certain amount. So
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: you know, as soon as we get there, I'm gonna
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: head out to Martin's get some ribs.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: Sounds pretty good, did you guys? I don't know if
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: you guys have seen you come, Well you come from
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: the north. That what's that old red what was that?
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: The red rooster, the red red Wing, the red Wing.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: Looks like it's gonna be a barbecue place. They got
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: a big, really couple of big giant smokers set up.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: I mean they're doing like the paving and the that's
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: not a bad idea right now, but it looks like
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: there's gonna be.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: A be because there is there is a shortage of
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: good barbecue in this area.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so, Mike, it might be something we we think
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: about partaking in during the off season.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: That's well, have a little time lunch date.
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: Maybe on some random Wednesday or Yeah, I think.
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: We could do that.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: There was there was a good one called Carnivores in Bellingham,
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: but they closed up.
• 58:32
  Speaker 14: According to the Internet, peg Leg Porker is the best
• 58:34
  Speaker 14: ribs in Nashville right now.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Peg Leg Porker Porker on Gleaves Street. Okay, sat near Broadway?
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: Do you think.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: Formats? Matt's got a GPS out over there, so I'm
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: in my map.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Trying to get my bearings.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: He did such a great job driving us all over
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: Nashville when we're there a couple of summers ago. Like
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: he's I thought he knew the area.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: But Chad's in l a for a minute walk.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: That's not bad. Peg Leg Porker, Poker, peg Leg Porker. Okay,
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: all right, that's a good name. What's that Chad?
• 59:12
  Speaker 10: Hey, how are you guys?
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 59:16
  Speaker 15: So, uh, Fred, I know you're a Magic fan and
• 59:19
  Speaker 15: there's a club in Nashville. I don't know if you'll
• 59:22
  Speaker 15: have time for it. But it's called House of Cards.
• 59:25
  Speaker 15: It's a really amazing place, so if you get a
• 59:27
  Speaker 15: chance to check that out, you should.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, how close is that to Broadways.
• 59:31
  Speaker 15: That I'm in Los Angeles?
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna look it up, the House House of Cards?
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: All right, thank you? I will check suddenly.
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: Fred's book Solid for his Nashville trip.
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: Barbeque and magic.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: I do love magic.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: I do love magic.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do party and I have that in common.
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: So do you remember when we used to have you know,
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: the I forget his name was John John. Oh yeah,
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: we had the house in House magician. Do you remember
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: how we used to absolutely baffle Jacoby Brissett when Jacoby
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: was here the first time around.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that him in particular.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I could see it.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 15: Are you guys still there?
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah? We're here? Yes? Are you yeah?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 15: Okay?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: Cool?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 15: So my past question is in the next ten years,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 15: who would you rather be still be a patriot for
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 15: Great May?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: In ten years?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: I can only pick one? Yeah May?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't I'd say the same.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: Then you got a quarter you have a question.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: I know my quarterback is good. You don't hear me
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: out to a quarterback for ten years if he's not good.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: But if Mayo's gone, that means well, if if May's good,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: they're both gonna be here. Don't you think that's why?
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: That's why I yeah, it's a good question. It's a
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: great question. But that's why I asked to clarify. See,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: I would because I could make an argument that if
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: the coach is still here for ten years, he's probably
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: done a pretty good job.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: But if you're asking me what I'd rather have for
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: ten years a really good coach are a really good quarterback,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: I'll take the quarterback.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: If it's just Girod winning no matter who they have, all.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: Right, who they put in, I'm just going to the
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: limb saying he ain't winning enough. I know, yeah, without
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: a quarterback.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: But that will be the Sererence scenario where you feel like,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: may I mean, look at Herbert, right, like, that's kind
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: of the situation where this young quarterback really good, we
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: want to hang on to him.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: This guy comes up with one right out of the
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: shoot that I would say, Yeah, that's a good point,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: because my guess is Herbert will be the Chargers quarterback
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: for ten years and doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: Win a second right, so asking I shall receive Barrion
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Sion rights in he says. Downtown. Justin, who is the
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: head of the Nashville Fan Club, says they'll be having
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: gathering at the Live Oak Music Row from six to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: nine college football on the TV's All Day. Feel free
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: to post up and enjoy a beer. They have beer
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: towers in unlimited buckets. I like that. Wow, like the
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: sound of that. Nashville Pats will be hook co hosting
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: with the New England Patriots fan Engagement team for an
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: awesome fan rally at our home barm seed by Sarge.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: Why don't I know any about this? M seed by Sarge,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: the voices, a less stadium and guest appearances by New
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: England Pages cheerleaders and pat the Patriot, not Fred Kirsh.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: So no one tells me about this.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: So just so you know, the look on your face
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: is speaks he speaks volume. Yeah, how does it feel
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: to be like me?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I hear you, Paul, I hear you.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: You know, like say, when the schedule comes out.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we also have a special guest player alumnus for
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: a Q and A with Sarge and fans on stage
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: at Live Oak. There will be raffle component to the event.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: All pro seeds will benefit the Craft Foundation. This is
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: a free to enter event and participation in the raffle
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: fundraise bred doesn't go down, grab prime seats for the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: event and stay late. This is the party of the weekend.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: So again, it's the Live Oak Music Row six to
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: nine on Saturday. This. I guess I'm non invited, but
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: thank you Barry.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 14: Well, your new friend is a three minute walk from there.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: You go mat, you get your magic, you get your
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: bar and then you go.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: How do I not know this?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: I might you need to put all this on your phone.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: You have quite a busy Saturday, young man.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: I do, yeah, But I'm not invited, Paul, So I'm you.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: Know, Barry just invited you. Barry's family. I just don't
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: like Barry's been in studio.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: But literally, we're flying sarage over there. I assume, Well.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: Is that what this is all about? Your hurt that
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: they didn't ask you to see?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: No no, no no no no no no. But we're this
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: is like a Patriots thing.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we're gonna have to tell about ten
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: this afternoon. There's gonna be hell to pay for somebody.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: There's gonna be cheerleaders there. We're or obviously donating raffle
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: prizes and like, oh, we don't need to tell anybody
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: that's traveling.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, you'd think they'd want you guys to Okay,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: big draw, All right, you know who you are.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: You know who I'm talking about up there?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: When's that game we're supposed to talk about.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: Talk talk next week, not this one.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to talk about a game.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: He will halftime chin wag me and Paul sometimes do
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: we go up there to the season tickets?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 15: Oh?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to go halftime for something. Was it
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: the Rams? The Rams game.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: That's coming up in a few weeks?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 17: Then?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: Not the Bears basket?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: Last night we saw Fred address the troops. Where would
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: you rank that between Lincoln's Gettysburg address and Sir William
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: Wallace in Brave Art.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: No, the Rams game is home. I think it's the Bears.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe two weeks.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: One, one game at a time, Palm. I'm trying not
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: to get ahead of myself, you know, I just want
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: to make sure it's on the Titans.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: Joe my engagements Joe from Ottawa.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: With May in the protocol and people sounding optimistic he
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: could play Sunday, wouldn't the prudent thing be to rest him?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: It would be his third career start. If he has
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: to miss or be limited in practice and game planning,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: wouldn't the veteran Brissett be more stable option.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: I understand the point it will be his fourth career start,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 5: but to me, it's all about if he's healthy enough
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: to play, Like I kind of agree with the email,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: or if you if you're rushing him back, if he's
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: not getting any practice time, he's not involved in the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: game plan or whatever, why not just air on the side.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: Of caution, But especially a defense that's if he's ready
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: to go a lot of disguise. Seems like this would
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: be a week you'd want him to get a full car.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: So Fred had a great question early in the show,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: aff a too sniff.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: Worthy question, just congestion.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: Who gives the Patriots a better chance to win this game?
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: Brissett or May?
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a good it's a good one.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, you can't I can't help but think that
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: maybe Tennis Tennessee's defense is pretty good, I think. So
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: that's unpredictable. Unpredictable too, right, right, So that's something that
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: I was kind of hinting at. You'd want the young
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: quarterback to really get a full compliment of reps this week,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: ton stand if there's any method to the madness of
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: their their past rushing schemes and those kind of things.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: So there's certainly like something appealing about Jacoby Brissette being
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: the veteran presidence who you know, probably has a little
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: bit better idea of how to decipher all those kind
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: of things. But I think I just generally er on
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: with if he's ready to go, put him in, take
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: the lumps you got to take, and continue his development path.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: That's that's the side of airon. But I still see
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: some of the you know, appeal good.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: You can make a really strong argument that Prisset would
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: give you.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: A better chance to win the think so I think
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: you could.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: But I would argue the other side and say, if
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: May is ready for the reason you just said, I'd
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: play him.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Anthony and Seattle says, I lost track of how
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: many times you guys literally made me laugh out loud
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: last week. The declaration that this team is no longer
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: soft but hard. That's first out, laughing Paul without missing
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: a beat, responding to where the AC Championship game when
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: we play Kansas City or Buffalo and Fred the underdog
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: cover lock of the week was a thing of beauty.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: We still have one guy who keeps emailing us saying,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: I told you that no one likes the pick segment,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: why are you still doing it? Well, we also told
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: you that everybody else said that they liked it.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: Like this is literally like one of those ninety ten
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: kind of splits.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: Right, Like, if everyone really did say it sucked, we
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: would not doing it. Yeah, but that's not the case.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: And we also kind of the pick segment is kind
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: of ironical. You know. It's like we know that we're
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: not necessarily devoting a lot of like research into our picks,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: as evidenced by the fact that I often picked different
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: ways from are we Thursday to Sunday? But we try
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: to have some fun with it, you know.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: It's the rest.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: It's our chance to talk about the rest of the
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: league a little bit too, which right Tuesday is so decays.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: And I'm not telling you that I get that I picked.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: I get the picks wrong on purpose. I don't. I
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: try to win every pick, but I don't necessarily have
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: all the information of all these games, and I'm not
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: quote unquote betting on them.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: That's some of my favorites. When we're making the picks
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: and then we're like three picks into uh one particular
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: game and then someone like you know the starting quarterbacks
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: out right and crap. But I try to, you know,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: I try to.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 5: Like It's like I picked Chicago in that game because
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: I thought Jaden Daniels wasn't going to play, and then
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: now as it turned out, I probably should have won anyway,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: but you know I didn't.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: Thanks Tyreek Stevens, right, let's see the right sin. I
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: don't know where he's from, but he says, big fan
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: of the show. I want to start by saying, Paul,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: I love you. You're my favorite on the show. But
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: I thought I d md you on Instagram a while
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: back asking for journalism tips and how you got into
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: the industry, and you blocked me.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: I didn't block Instagram. I didn't. I definitely didn't block you.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: But the kid, he's just looking for help.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: Fred no help for anyone.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: I've never blocked. But I'm telling you I didn't. I'm
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: not even on Instagram to hit it wrong button. That's
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: always possible.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: You meant to hit like and then you hit block.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: But I don't recall. I don't recall getting anybody reaching
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: out anybody that I didn't know. Anyway, you don't.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: Know him blocked.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: No, I didn't block.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: Even I don't ask ball for tips. He's going to
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: block you.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: I promise you I didn't block you. Okay, so blocked,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: I didn't blocker block. Now there's so someone said something
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: about my family that I muted once. Oh, and someone
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: was using real, like really not like racial kind of language,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: and I muted.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: I muted a lot of people, and I don't block.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: I believe I've muted two people and all the time
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: i've been on Twitter. Yeah, but I don't think I've
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: ever blocked anyone.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I don't block people, but I do mute
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: some people. Yeah, there's people like they say the same
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: things over and over again.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 17: You know.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: It's like I don't need to hear that.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: You know, And because the other stuff to me is
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: part of it, like the criticism that.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: You get, I don't care about that.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: But I think I think in a lot of ways,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: it's it's healthy. Like no one wants to hear. Oh,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: I agree with everything he does. Everything he says and
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: does is just wonderful. No, you don't learn anything from that.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: You learn by getting other people's thoughts and opinions, you know,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: and even when you disagree with him, and believe me,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: I disagree with a lot. I'm very opinionated. But I
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: think that's how you learn, That's how you grow, you know,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: sort of diversity of thought. How's that you know? Unlike
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: different respects, Unlike our current political climate, which on both
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: sides has no diversity of thought.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: Right, okay one week ago, baby, all right, we're gonna.
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  Speaker 4: Joyce Craig is that before you take the break to attendees?
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  Speaker 5: Do you ever watch any of those New Hampshire with
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  Speaker 5: Kelly and Joyce crag Do you ever noticed every one
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  Speaker 5: that's Joyce Craig endorsed? She just like looks.
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  Speaker 3: Of the most I like the one on the radio
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  Speaker 3: where where they're using uh Kelly Kelly Aodd's voice and
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  Speaker 3: obviously they you know, dub it they dub it or
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  Speaker 3: that one. It's like it was probably said in a
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  Speaker 3: different These commercials are crazy. All right, we'll take a break.
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  Speaker 3: We'll come back with more emails and calls. Evan will
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  Speaker 9: After watching a film.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: What was it like for you to kind of see
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: what you were able to do as an offense?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 9: And how do you prepare this week now? With the
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 9: uncertainty around around Drake?
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we continue to try to build off
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 7: of what what How we finished the game last week
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 7: and you know, and it's it's always you know, prepared
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 7: like your starter, next man up, and uh, you know
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 7: that doesn't change this week.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 16: Tooby, how do you see Kayshawn Brute growing mature as
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 16: a player, knowing as.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 9: A person since the beginning of the summer, and Tams
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 9: have knowed how.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 7: It's work at his really yeah, I mean, you know,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 7: obviously not being a part of the offense first couple
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 7: of weeks and still sticking sticking to it and and
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 7: you know, and putting the work in on on the
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 7: practice field, and and a lot of that stuff starting
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 7: to come to fruishing for him, you know, as a
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 7: as a teammate of his. You know, it's it's obviously
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 7: you really rewarding to see that when it finally starts
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 7: to go your way in you know what I mean,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 7: He's making the most of his opportunity.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 9: The last couple of days, How different were they?
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: Just I guess not having mandatory meetings on Monday.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 17: Your routine probably doesn't change that much, But was this
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 17: much a nice change up?
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: Do you?
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 7: It was nice to be able to sleep in a
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 7: little bit more, get a little bit more extra sleep,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 7: that's for sure. Other than that, the like you said,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 7: the routine doesn't change.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 9: You feel like the energy, like the different.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 7: Energy when yeah, I feel like guys are a little
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 7: bit more arrested, you know what I mean. It's a
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 7: lot easier to come in after a win rather than
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 7: a loss. You know, I mean, I guess the energy
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 7: in the vibe is obviously ramping up more and more. So, uh,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 7: you know, it's something that we got to build on
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 7: and try to earn the right to have this feeling
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 7: again next week.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 17: Would you goob you talking about self belief after the
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 17: winns on Sunday. I'm curious in your career what you've
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 17: learned about yourself how to deal with the ebbs and
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 17: the flows of an NFL career, whether it's nois in
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 17: the media, whether it's what happens on the field.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 9: How do you keep yourself at the happy meetings?
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 7: You know, having the right people around me obviously that's one.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 7: And then you know, and trusting and believing the things
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 7: that got me to the point that I am in
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 7: my career. You know, you don't just look up and
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 7: being the league for nine years, so you know, I
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 7: just stick to what I've known that has gotten me
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 7: this far and what I believe the that will help
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 7: prepare my career even longer. Uh So, uh, you know,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 7: and just believe in myself.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: A lot of times, you're like a veteran player in
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: any sport, maybe shit for a.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 9: Couple of games for whatever reasons, injuries and things like that,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 9: and they tend to be able to learn some stuff
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 9: that maybe that they weren't looking at when they were
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 9: in that situation.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: Anything comes to you from that to see from afar
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: as opposed to being in the thick of the battle
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: for a couple of games.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 7: Uh No, nothing that that that strikes me.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 21: I would say, Hey, there's quite a few young guys
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 21: who are stepping.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 9: Into prominent roles on this team. With your experience in
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 9: the league, what perspective do you try that, like to that.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 7: Happy season, keep growing, you know, and keep keep trying
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 7: to get better, keep you know, with the old saying
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 7: that like Staate Green and you know, and stay stay
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 7: with the ability that you're you're still learning out there,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 7: you know obviously, you know, when you when you learn
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 7: from the good plays, obviously, but also the bad plays
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 7: and being able to you know, you know, shake off
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 7: the bad plays and move on to a good play,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 7: and and and also learning why those bad plays happen
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 7: and make make the most of the next opportunity that
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 7: you get.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 9: What are some of your takeaways when your bests.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 7: You keep really good defense. Uh, you know, we're talking
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 7: about it. I think they start, uh they're up there
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 7: and starting fast on as a team obviously, but definitely
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 7: as a defense. A lot of good talent, uh you know,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think they have one of the top
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 7: fifteen defensive players in the league. And Jeffrey and uh,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 7: you know, he pops up off the film. I remember
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 7: playing him back in my coach days, and you know,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 7: he always gave us a lot of fits. And you know,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 7: it's no surprise that he's still playing at that at
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 7: this level. Uh uh, this party's career. But you know
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 7: a lot of other good guys that are are playing
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 7: League of Football.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 9: What did it mean to get the game? What did
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 9: it mean to get the game?
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 10: Ball on?
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 7: It was cool, you know, obviously not expecting no, I
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 7: won't say not expecting to play, but obviously it wasn't
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 7: in my Bengo card before the game. But uh uh,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 7: you know, just to go out there and make the
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 7: most of the opportunity.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 9: Men being lay for a nine years.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: There are a lot of guys who are talented that
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: don't enjoy saying about.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 9: You know, I mean, what's what's been the key for
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 9: you to be in season nine and talent.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: To those.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 7: Keep learning, enjoy learning. Uh, you know, I I love
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 7: learning about the game of football. I love learning how
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 7: to be a better, better man, better teammate, better player.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 7: And I think that that is, you know, helped me
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 7: so far. Uh. You know when I think, I like
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 7: I said, I think those things, I just I think
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 7: it's just that. I think it's just learned, continuing to learn.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 7: I think that's really that's kept me in the league.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 16: To Drake, if you're looking at practice a more practice
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 16: for longer thirty minutes, how does that change your practice
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 16: approach or regimen or anything to that.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 7: Oh, I mean I guess I got to wait thirty
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 7: minutes to start practicing. That's about it. Other than that, nothing, Kobe.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 9: Is it tough for players to kind of roll with
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 9: the trade that line?
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 16: I mean understanding what it is, what it means. But
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 16: is it tough for guys to news players and then.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 22: Kind of come back the next week and you know,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 22: like all's all's good.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it's tough when you know you're around
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 7: a guy, uh, and then they get traded. But you
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 7: obviously understand that's part of the I mean, I got
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 7: traded your first game of the season, so I didn't
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 7: get a chance to go through the season. But uh,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 7: you know, it's definitely it definitely takes a toll. But
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 7: as as a being a professional, you know, you got
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 7: to kind of roll with the punches in and certain
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 7: that as pick up a slack and then in other aspects,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 7: you know, you just gotta you know, turn the page
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 7: and just keep going.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: You see from Joe Bill, what's it like to come
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: in as as a third quarterback into it?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 9: You first year, you're kind of in that same situation.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 9: What are you trying to do? And learn quickly?
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: Learn?
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 7: Literally that's it, you know, That's all I try to
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 7: do is learning and never know how it turns out.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 9: What do you see from him.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 7: As far as what.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 9: Just his development ways approaching the game?
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 7: I think he's I think he's learning, getting better, uh,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 7: you know, taking advantage of his reps on the practice field,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 7: and you know, and I think that's probably about it.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 7: Rights the virtual reality had sets in your game prepers now,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 7: d yeah, I'll do that. I don't play video games,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 7: so I don't not to put a head set on.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: We're like to take a picture of questions throwing back
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: just seven hundred and fifty nine pass here in America?
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 9: Do you ever think about like the best rough video?
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 7: Uh, the best throw? Oh no, that's nine years, just
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 7: a long time, man, I don't know how many. I
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 7: think all of them were good throws, right, No, No, we're bad.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 9: Because we were talking on.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 23: Just a general discussion, like when played the booty just
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 23: give him the situation.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that definitely was not one of my best throws.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 7: I think it was, like I said, like I said
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 7: after the game, I think Booty did the hard part
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 7: on that play and making that catch. So I mean,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 7: I mean that the ball died and uh, you know
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 7: he had to go to the ground. Obviously my legs
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 7: I can't put my legs into the ball. But bless you.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 7: But uh yeah, I think he made the hard part
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 7: in making the catch.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 10: Final question.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 16: He's kind of stood out that in some of the
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 16: ending game situations, made sure that he's looking for the
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 16: official to give the balls.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: That's something you guys work on the practice or is
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: that just kind of something you.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 12: Know to do.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what we do in practice. Yeah.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 17: The whole team kind of rally behind in this last
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 17: geame I mean they also so highly that you as well.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 9: I just what was that, like, Heather support?
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 8: It was good.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 7: I mean it's good at any time to have their support. Yeah.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 7: I mean it was trying to go win the game,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 7: so I really that's all it really mattered. I think
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 7: they wanted to win too, so it was it was
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 7: a good day.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and now great moments in.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: History. You know, when you're looking at the trunk of
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: the stem, you gotta worry about the branches.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: Did you stack them?
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, ran leak. Yeah, I haven't seen that.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: You're talking about your favorite beasting?
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: Is that?
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: What are you getting into?
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: That?
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 12: Is that?
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 16: No?
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: No, I did get I stepped on another hornet's nest.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: Another. This has happened multiple times.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I got my Freddy.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: I worry about you arms.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: You're just stomping around.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: I worry about So you got like multiple stinks, like
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: twenty beastings.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: I got attacked.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we need like we need you. The season starts.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: Luckily, I'm not allergic to it, but I am swollen
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: and itchy.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: So what they get just on the armor.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: Arm and legs?
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Freddy, can you not step on horn It's a
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: jungle out there.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: That's another great moment, all right.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: I just in the middle. I was in the middle
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: of my Buffalo tenders, and I hear the comeback. I
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: had to wrap it up your quick A little sweaty,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: A little sweaty.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you are wearing your jacket inside a different jacket
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: than the.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: Way that you will yesterday.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: The weird Swedish one bomber a little borro of bombers.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: This is. But I was in the middle of tender,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: so I am a little spicy, Yeah, a little spicy.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're good. Yeah, the buff tenders are good.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: Where they from?
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: This place called pizza time.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's but they spell the time. They spell the
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: time with a y.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: I don't think so that's burger time, Julian Edelman.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: Oh that's burgers just with an eye. Okay, take that
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: place and they deliver.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: I could go, so you call and then they bring
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: you the foods.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: Great concept. I love the concept of it, just because
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: you don't have to go there.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: It's not easy to deliver to Foxboro Stadium.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 5: Especially right now all the construction out there.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, things going on.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 14: The delivered guy was walking around for ten minutes before
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 14: he called me to say, hey, I can't get in here.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: No, I know, So you know, I give him credit
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: for the effort.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: New place. He'll know next time, I bet.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah. They'll learn it eventually, they'll figure it out. If
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: we use them more than once, we'll see. We'll see,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: all right. So tpx outline is eight five to five
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: pats five hundred podcasts at Patriots dot com as the
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: email address. We're waiting for Evan to return from practice.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: So you think, what time is it before Evan gets back?
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: And I haven't been on Twitter. So if you guys
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: have been on Twitter and you already know the answer
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 5: to this going on Twitter, do you think that the
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 5: media will see Drake May at practice?
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, say yes, stretching out.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know why I'm going to say no. No,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 5: I'm going to say whatever they did with him for
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 5: thirty minutes was before the media got out there.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, maybe or after keep him hidden.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: But I don't That's why I said I don't. I
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: haven't been on Twitter, so I don't know what the answer.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: To that is.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: According to Mike Reass, does sound like I don't think
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: it matters. Jalen Polk appear to be getting ready to
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: go back out there, so UH might get him and
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: as well as Alex Austin who has been on ir.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: SO and usually on Wednesday there in pads.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: They were there, they they were putting pads on.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: If Drake's out there, will he have his pads on? No?
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: Not if he's limited to thirty minutes, right right, he
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: won't be allowed to be in pads.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, yeah.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: I don't want I don't want to spoil Evans though.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh you already have the information?
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: No, no, I don't yet. But it does sound like
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: a few guys are are I'm going to be returning,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: so I.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, fine. Melvin and Tennessee wants to know where the
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: party is. I mentioned it's in I didn't see that
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: live Oak Music Row from six to nine Live of
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: Oak Music Row. I'm assuming that's on the strip.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: Well, you may or may not be able to meet
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: Fred Kersh if he's pouting and not not going.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: He wants to know. Well, we'll Deuce be doing karaoke.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: You wish Deuce will not be there.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: But I think if Fred goes to the magic shop,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: maybe get one of those like smoke things, you know,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: and then you come into the party and.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: Boom, smoke.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: Chef's kiss here unannounced?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: People, Can you do that?
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: Then he'll do he'll because he's just gonna go around doing.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 5: Up up close car business, reading close I want to talk.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: They call it close up magic, close up magic. You
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: know his hands your coin?
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: Did you lose this?
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: Maybe?
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: Hard Hard Hardy fancies himself an illusion.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: Well, he was a you know, magician juggler in balloon art.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: He's very big into.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: He's very talented, is legitimate.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: He think he's a clown without makeup, so we could
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: probably put makeup on him too. Uh No. In California,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: the postgame show was amazing, could not stop laughing and
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: had me wondering if we're gonna have to start studying
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: how different stadiums Shadows are Shadows, Shadows grow so long.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: Alive. That's why Matt said Curse Comes Alive.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: I think that was the largest selling debut album of
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: all time at that time.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: But Paulling, for me, this is a running joke with
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: you guys that it goes back aways with the shadows thing.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: I don't know where it started, but Fred has brought
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: that one out before and to the point where when
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: when my boys were really really small. That came on
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 5: the radio once and and I did it like I
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: did Shadows, and that became like a huge thing, like
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 5: they wanted to know why, and I'm explaining it to them.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: I'm like, they couldn't have been more than like five
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 5: and seven at the time. But yeah, that's an old
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 5: day book.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 24: Goody for Freddy and guess who sat down like the.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 5: All right, Evan, wait, this is a big one today.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: There's a lot on this. Good news are bad news?
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: Oh? Do we have to give us the news?
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 5: Must we do this?
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 22: Bob Drake may not there not spotted at practice. Neither
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 22: was Vederian Lowe also not spotted at practice, so some
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 22: of us speculating maybe that he yeah, something along those lines.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 22: At ankle is still not one hundred percent, so they're
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 22: giving him the day off potentially h Jalen Polk and
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 22: Leyden Robinson back at practice today and Alex Austen back
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 22: at practice off of injured reserves.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: So okay, now, what was Alex Austin dealing with?
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: I'd have to go look that up.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: I want to say, we'll find out at four o'clock
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 5: because he'll be listed on the injury report. But okay,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: so his clock, Yeah, good stuff guys coming.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: Back for It'd be great to get some low.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: My thoughts of on on May was that whatever the
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: thirty minute worth of work was probably not going to
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: be in front of us. Agreed. Ye's kind of what
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: I thought. Yeah, you can.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 22: It's not mandated when the thirty minutes can be in
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 22: the two hours of practice, right, So even like if
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 22: they wanted him to do thirty minutes of team then
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 22: that would not be in front of us either, you know,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 22: So it all depends on when they want to do that.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: I don't think I don't think he could do thirty
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: minutes of team practice, right.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: I think he's still in the like sort of aerobic
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: kind of stage if he can, if he can throw
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 5: so with his face three yeah, right, the thirty the
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: thirty minute limit is phase three. Yes, throwing is phase four,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 5: And Girod said both of those things today, right, So
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: I don't know which one is just.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: A little confusion, and I'm wondering if the gaggle figured
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: that out. Well.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 22: So, I think the biggest confusion is because for a quarterback,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 22: there's no contact in practice, so one of the hurdles
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 22: that a player that isn't a quarterback would need to
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 22: clear is going through a contact practice, but because he's
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 22: not going to ever be contacted in practice four and
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 22: five kind of blur the lines.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: There a little bit. Then how do you know if
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: he's ever ready?
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 22: Yeah, contact is like the big hurdle from four to five.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 22: And because he's not going to be contact.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: He's never going to play it again.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 5: I could see. I could see like the Jets, right,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: the Jets would have their quarterback go out and say, well,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: so we're going to have to hit Aaron Rodgers right,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: see if he can pass protocol and then he gets hurt?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 16: Right?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: How fun would that be?
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 12: Though?
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: All right, just give him a little hit, just line.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 5: Just you know, just someone hit him from me he contact,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 22: Yeah, like football specific exercise is phase three, which to
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 22: me would be throwing as a quarterback, that as a
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 22: football specific exercise. So based off of that and based
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 22: off of the minutes restriction, it really that's where I
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 22: think it sounds like phase three.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, So how quickly can you go
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: through the five phases? And does that give him a
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: shot to play?
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 5: I think he has a shot to play if he
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: gets cleared. I think you have to be twenty four
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 5: hours symptom free after each of these steps something like that.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: Well, then I don't think he's got a shot to play.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 5: Then well, if he's if he's ready tomorrow to be
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 5: up a level and then Friday to be up a
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 5: level from that, then Saturday he could be cleared.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: So Mike, but then to me that how much preparation
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: is he doing.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: Well, that's a different question, and didn't want to go there, right,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 5: he want.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: To do it.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 22: There's a chance, Like just to compare it, last week,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 22: Jalen Polk was out of practice d NP, d m P,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 22: d MP, and it wasn't like a debate of oh,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 22: well he's gonna do this, he's gonna do that. So
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 22: I'm just looking at the differences of this situ. It
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 22: does seem like maybe he's further along than like Jalen
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 22: Polk was at this time last week. So there's a chance,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 22: but I would say the chances are still slim.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 5: See, but I think, and I don't know this for sure,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: we'll find out at four o'clock. My guess is Drake
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: May is gonna be listed as d NP today.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 22: Well, Girodd said he was going to be limited.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, I know what he said. But I
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 5: think he's going to be listed as d NP possible,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 5: which for all we know, is exactly what Jalen Polk
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 5: did last week. Yeah, but no one asked him about it,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, because it's not I mean,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: no one should. I'm not saying we dropped the ball.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 5: I'm not asking him. I mean, it's different for the quarterback, right,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 5: But I don't know. I mean, I still think he
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 5: has a chance to play. Me too.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: I feel a little bit more optimistic than I did before,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: but entirely because it's just what Girodd said though. I mean,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: I guess we'll see with the injury report, but I know,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: is there a scenario though where he's the backup, like
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: you know, he's he's cleared Saturday, didn't get enough prep?
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 4: Still start to Kobe Drake's the backup for a week.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's that's a way to go.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: To Otherwise in pads today.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: In pads, Yeah, it's Wednesdays.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, and the weather is similar here that I think
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: it's going to be on Sunday, And that's it's a beautiful,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: beautiful day.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: It's a beautiful day out.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: There's like seventy degrees.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 22: People are like taking their sweatshirts off, you know, because.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: It's the guys in the media green. Yeah, people are
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: taking Okay, anybody have sunscreen on?
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 22: I didn't see any sunscreen come out. No, but you
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 22: know it was it felt like a like.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: Was anyone wearing flip flops? No, No, it wouldn't be.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't like that. No.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 22: I just felt like a you know, like a May
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 22: June day flip flops to work.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: But why why I don't like it?
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 5: I don't know why you have to tell everybody else
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: what you.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: Representing, you know, my outlet, and you show up to
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: work and in flip flops.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 5: The dogs are out.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: I don't like that.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 5: So I know that they do in training care.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: I know they do. And they set up the beach
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: towels and well.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: I said, couch towel too. But I don't wear flip.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: Flops, so your butt doesn't get.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: It's a whole thing.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 5: What's that?
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: But you don't want your butt to get wet?
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: The floppy hats on and they just hats.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the whole thing.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: It's just just a big picnic in the summer.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: Big party going on Evan down in Nashville that Fred
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: wasn't even aware of.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, now did you get NotI.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 4: Are you speaking on or anything?
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: No following sorry sending sarge. The cheerleaders contributed even club
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: there and I didn't even know about it.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: Do we not know about this? I don't know?
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: You think the two biggest stars it's crazy.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: Well we're here, Mike, come on, I forgot about Pep
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: and the Deuce will be here riding.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: So any any other news? I you know, have fences
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: been mended among you know you're keep doing this?
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: What not touching?
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: You know? Okay, now everybody, it seems like everyone's getting
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: along right, absolutely good, absolutely, because you know, we don't
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: want any descent among the scribes.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 7: Why does he do this?
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 5: Describe scribe mad?
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: Everything?
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 5: So look at the look on his face.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: Everything was even keel.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 5: Absolutely okay, best friends.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, No, that's good.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: I think everybodys excited for Chick fil A today, so you.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: Know, well yeah that puts everybody after the show. Listen,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: we got a date. Those pr guys, they're no fools.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: You want to keep the media happy. You feed them,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: that's right, right, You give them good food, you keep
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: them happy. A lot of these guys that's the only
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: meal they get all week.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 5: It doesn't look like I'm gonna I promised to turn
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: over a new leaf. I'm gonna let that one go.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: I made the realization I'm far too critical of my colleagues.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: I'm not doing that anymore. Okay, all right, the opposite, Oh,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: I got a lot of pats on the back.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: On side, that's sure. I saw that. Paul, He's right,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: it was fun.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: Paulse pulling strings. People think Paul's pulling strings. He's not
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: even trying to pull, so that's like me.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 5: There was a little bit of an update to the
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 5: story yesterday, Fred Oh really yeah. I guess there was
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: a lot of talk about the noise in the press
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: box on Sunday on Drake May's touchdown run, and so
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 5: Felger and Mas were with Greg Badard and they were
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 5: talking about it, and I guess Felger had said that
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: he got an email from someone who said it was
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: really loud on Drake May's such so everybody not a
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 5: stretch at all. Everybody assumed that I was the one
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 5: that sent the text to Felger to say yeah, yeah,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 5: there was open cheering in the press. I did not
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 5: send the text to Mike. Again, not out of character,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 5: not something I wouldn't have done right or wouldn't have
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 5: thought about, but I did not do it. Mike GARREDI
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: texted me on the side, He goes, I sent the
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 5: same thing to Greg. I thought for sure was you
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 5: and I was like, I promise you.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: We were there and it was loud, and he scored.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: They were like they were hooting it up.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: It was loud. But I did not send anything to
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 5: Mike Felger about that particular thing. So now they're all
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: talking to Evan saying, well, so I'm like, I mean,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: I can't. I'm not offended at all because it's definitely
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 5: something in line with like how I think, that's definitely
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 5: something that I would think. But in this particular case,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 5: I didn't do it. Civil war as you like to
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 5: call it.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: God, So that that's your full report. That's it.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 5: I'm not touching any of this talk about Okay, did
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 5: I say anything wrong though? Did I give a little
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 5: recap there? No, great, I left all the names out
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 5: to protect the innocent relatively innocent.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: All right, that's the practice, Evan Liz Our practice report
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: brought to you by Mary's Dry Cleaning.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say, why is it? And it's sponsored.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we need to get a sponsor for that.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 5: Get that pizza.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: We need a sponsor for the practice report. So whatever the.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 5: Car wash is that's going on outside the door.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're cleaning up out there, John Wright, sin's sad
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: to hear when you guys go on break. It's my
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: food here and not Paul's anymore. Paul. I know fred
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: doesn't pay you guys enough, So let me know when
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: I can buy you lunch. Did he sniff off of that?
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna sniff well, he wrote it in so right.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: I'm just reading what he wrote. The poor guy needs
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: a new car. Been throwing side hints at Freddy the
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: past couple of months, probably saving all his lunch money
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: for it.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: Ain't lying, buddy, Listen, I'm trying to get Toyota on board.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah you know so our buddy, Jerry, Oh, Jerry, he
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: asked me, He asked me, were we able to get
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 5: a car out of this?
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 4: They got you a car had to be like, have
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 4: full advertising for Patriots unfiltered with like all our faces
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: on it and you get the car. But you know
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 4: you got like Fred and Dus and Evan and to
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 4: me and Alex and we're all you know poses.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: Dudes can ruin a free tune in live driving around
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 5: with my face on my.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: Never see those like you got that right? You ever
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: see those videos on it on you know the various
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: social media where you know, the employee does something and
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: then the owner gets the employer a car, but like
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: she walks out like she doesn't know. It's like a
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: big surprise. And then she'll walk out because she just
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: lost her car for whatever reason. And she walks out
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: and they like they present her. She's crying.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 5: Those get me. There's one with the with with a school,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: a long time school, and the seniors all had a fundraise.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 5: They did a GoFundMe and they bought the guy for Paul.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 5: It's not a thought that hasn't crossed my mind, trying
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 5: to get some new wheels.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: So like Andrea's out there, Andre Tippet and everybody's out there.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: You can go around with the media group and take donations.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: No, but I like literally need like that free car.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 5: I kid No, I'm just saying I can't even afford
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 5: to make it a payment.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: Like I got one hundred and sixty thousand miles on
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: my car.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I have like one hundred and sixty dollars to
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 5: my name.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 3: So well, there you go. Quick trivia question from Jacket
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: and Auber. Does anyone know what the band was called
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: before Peter Frampton went solo? What his band name was? Jeez,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: I knew this.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 5: I don't. That's before my time, humble pie. Really never
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 5: heard that in my life.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: Well before my time.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 5: That's before my before my time, so it's way before
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 5: your time.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: All right, TPX outline.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 5: Let's get back to so what happened? You know, what
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 5: happened to Frampton?
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: What happened to Frampton? He's still around?
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 5: No, I know, But why like like that you said
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 5: it was like the highest key Tan selling, Yeah right.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: Just the music was that. I think after that they
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 3: didn't really have any good hits.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but why why do you think he was able
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 5: to be so successful with that one album that?
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: Really I don't think he was a real He's a
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: very talented musician and a decent singer, but I'm not
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: a great songwriter, you know, and the Beaches wouldn't write
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: him any songs.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 5: The Beg's wrote those songs now, a lot of songs.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 9: I know.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 5: I've told you about that documentary.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: I've watched it.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 5: It's awesome, But I just I find it interesting that
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 5: you could be that successful flashing the pants. Yeah, like once, yeah,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 5: And I'm not even talking about a one hit wonder
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: that yeah, because I wouldn't say Frampton's a one hit wonder,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 5: like it was kind of like this.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: That he had another album after that that did okay,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: but nothing like that for us. One.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 14: He was in a car accident in nineteen seventy eight
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 14: that really fed them.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 5: Oh is that really nice.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: Making fun of the make a wish?
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 5: Kidding? No, that's not. That is totally that explains it. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that that, but that explained way did
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 5: he go? What happened? Because it was like seventy six
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 5: or so, right, Oh yeah, Frampton comes Alive. I was
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 5: like yeah, and then.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 14: Six and then seventy seven was the follow up album.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: Seventy eight was a car accident.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 5: So that's why he never achieved great.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's still playing small venues.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: With the key tar, that six string up there, key tar.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get back to this is where you
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: need hard Hardy would be good at this too.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 5: So do you think Hardy would talk about these kinds
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 5: of that in between telling the songs, play.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: The music, he talks about it.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 5: Right, Oh right, that'd be interesting to listen to Hardy's
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 5: take on that behind the music. Maybe I'll send him
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 5: a text.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we could. Miami should have We should have Hardy
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: as a guest during the day. Do some magic tricks,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: you know, up closed. We'll have the camera on them,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: and then we can talk about the music.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: This guy, he's all right down the middle.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the TPX outline.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 5: Dylan's in North Carolina.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: Hey Dylan, Hey, how good Dylan.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 21: I was just wondering, with the tradeline glooming, is there
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 21: any wide receivers that you think that we could actually get.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 21: I thought Deontay Johnson was probably one that would be
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 21: really nice, but now he's traded. So I was just
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 21: wanted you on that and I'll take it up here.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, thanks.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 4: I think the receiver position is tough. I mean, at
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: this point, I'm not really interested in getting more guys
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 4: kind of like they got and I don't think they're
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 4: gonna get a guy right now. So I don't.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 4: I haven't heard of it that that seems like it would.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 22: Yeah, I feel the same way. I feel like, if anything,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 22: they might give away some of their receivers instead of.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: Early disgruntled guys have been resigned.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 5: You know, well most of the disgruntled guys were old,
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 5: but Deontay Johnson's not. Yeah.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 22: I think Deontay Johnson maybe a little tad bit overrated.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 5: Oh I don't think he's a great, really good.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 22: Really good route runner, But I don't know. Pittsburgh gave
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 22: up on him. Now Carolina gave up on him.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, it's the kJ Osbornes of the world.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, I mean, that is how into what
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 5: Pittsburgh does. Though they draft their receivers and they let
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 5: him go.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 22: Yeah, but now two teams have in A team in
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 22: Carolina is desperate for anything on offense and they did
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 22: to let him walk for a pick. Swap tells me
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 22: that I don't know what was going on.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: There a buzzsaw in the White Mountains, right Son, jeez says,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: I know for a fact that I'm older than all
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: of you. Oh, I've been listening since way back and
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: used to watch the Patriots Football Weekly with Andy Hart,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: Paul and Fred many years ago when you sat around
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: the desk. I also subscribed to the Hardock shif w Yeah,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: was that the one that's the one for AT and
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: T probably? Oh my god, ET and T three. Yeah.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: I found Patriots on Filter a couple of years ago,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: and I don't miss the broadcast even after moving out
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: of state. Why so, why am I doing it like
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: a country thing? Like I don't? I watched Paul on
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: his show, and he never interrupts anyone. In fact, recently
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: I heard him say sorry, Mike, I didn't mean to
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: interrupt you.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: On PU who.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: Interrupts everyone and he doesn't listen to anyone. Yeah, he
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: always talks over anyone who's making a point. Mike Usseau
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: has got to be a saint. And we all know
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: that Evan is too nice of a guy to say
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: to Paul let me finish. Yeah, although I do love
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: it when he says it to Barthy on Catch twenty two, which,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: to my uh, to be honest, is my favorite podcast.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 5: Oh thank you, Fred. Criticism's fair.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: Fred keep arguing with Paul don't back down. It's my
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: favorite part of the show. And Paul, there are other
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: words in the English Dictionary than like, which you overuse
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: to a fall like a schoolgirl. I also wish I
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 3: had a nickel for every time Paul said I agree
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: with Evan Wow, Wow.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 5: I think you'd be destitute.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 4: But anyways, from the White busam.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 5: Fair fair criticisms. Though I do interrupt you guys too much.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 23: You do.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 5: No, I'm just kidding. I don't hear you. I don't
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 5: hear you say that. Yeah, I'm sure I do, but
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 5: like you don't like God, He's no. I I talk
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 5: a lot, A.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: Lot of people would. Well.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 22: Sometimes I'm like, I'm giving a take, and then Alice
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 22: will interject in the middle of the take, and I'm
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 22: just like, that's.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: What you're doing.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: This is what I need you to do. He gives
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 5: my hand like.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 4: Spraise him with the spray bottle.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: Me and and me. No, I have with my wife.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 3: I have little things I do when like I will,
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 3: it's time to be quiet.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 5: I'd be dead. Time for me to be dead. I
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 5: get that look, you know, that look you know you
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 5: don't you know, and just gives you that look. I
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 5: would get the look from Beth if.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: I ever tried something like that the step brother, just
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 4: shut your mouth, just shut your mouth, Shut your mouth.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 5: I don't even joke about it. I wouldn't even talk.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: So when when I remember my grandmother when she would
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: have like a baby in her arms and the baby
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: would cry, and she go, I do that to.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 5: Talk about saints.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh boy? Love that, Jordan writes in I
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: love the show and find these podcasts to be therapeutic
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: and informative. I've been listening to Paul and Fred for
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: over ten years, and I've already shown love over the
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: years to them. However, I'd like to give a special
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 3: shout out to Evan and Mike, who are newer additions
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: to the show. Both do an excellent job providing insight
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: and clearly do their homework, looking at the all twenty
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 3: two before joining the discussion. That is in no way
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: a dig at Paul and Fred, who have become two
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: of my favorite patriots over the years. I'm not saying
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: they don't do their homework, because they do it in
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: different ways. I know Paul will likely scoff at the
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: notion of calling him a patriot, but at this point
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: he and Fred have earned the titles of Patriots. Oh wow,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: I will scoff at that if the show had positions
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: like the team age and reality aside, this is all
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 3: a delusional proposal. What positions would you all be?
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 5: Oh god, oh, I thought he was going to give
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 5: us position.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: Definitely be the quarterback. You would be the quarterback.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 5: I'm just kidding.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: You'd be the tight pan offensive coordinator.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm yeah, job is right, that's my dream.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: Fred would be the deuce, would be the non blocking
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: tight end. Like, yeah, the mic is sicky.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just about the glory, not that. Not the
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 4: hard right, You're not You're not going to dig out
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 4: the nine tex I'm not digging out nothing.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 5: No, you're not running a lot of for the love
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 5: of the game routes.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the free safety.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 4: Really athletic positions, delivering hits.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: Devin mccordy looks.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: I do think safety is the best position, though, Like,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: if if I had to choose one position I could play.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: See, I was going to give you backup, quarterback, quarterback,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: gap on backwards.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 5: You know, just like these left I do have a
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 5: lot of experience, like Dennis Quaiden backup given someday backup quarterback. Yeah, okay, yeah,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 5: and used to make fun of me because I always
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 5: play I always would play free safety and bubble football
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 5: like I would. I would never cover anybody. I would
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 5: just say I'm the best and try to pick and
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 5: hits no hits. It's bubble football except for.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 3: Let's see, uh who was this Kyle short over under
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: seems like we're off the tracks a little bit today,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: but anyway, that's that's okay. Well, before we do this
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: question for Evan that we were posing before you guys,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: who gives the Patriots a better chance to win this game?
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: Drake may or Jacoby Brissett? Did you have? I think
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: you answered that nothing. Who gives who gives the team
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 3: the better chance to win this game? This particular game.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 22: This particular game is that's a hard question because I
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 22: think Drake gives you a better chance to move the
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 22: ball always. But it's a tough defense, and you could
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 22: lead the turnovers against the defense like this perset.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 5: I worry about them moving the ball.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 3: This game.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 5: I might, I might lean Brissette slightly.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my answer is I don't care.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 5: Answered the same exact way.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 3: Yea, all it's fun.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 5: They all have the same think about.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 22: It, because I just wonder if managing this game because
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 22: they're not going to like, you don't think Titans are
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 22: going to score very much either.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 5: Right, so you don't turn the ball over, you know,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 5: and you know, plus the you have to take everything
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 5: into consideration. If Drake May plays, he's probably not going
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 5: to have much practice time, right right, you know, So
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 5: that's part of it.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 22: I always lean towards the better player, which I think
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 22: is Drake May, no doubt. So I like it hurts
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 22: me to say that, but I hear the other side
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 22: of the argument.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 3: On this one.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we all want Drake May to play, but there's
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 5: an argument to be made that Perset this particular game,
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 5: because of everything, gives you a better t.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 22: They could win this game thirteen to ten. Yeah, with
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 22: Persett just managing the game and putting together one touchdown
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 22: drive and not turning the ball over.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 3: And along those lines, the Tennessee defense you mentioned it, Yeah,
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: is it for real?
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 22: You know, they do a lot of different things. They
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 22: spin the dial. This is like a true not cliche
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 22: spin the dial defense, but this is a true spin
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 22: the dial defense. I think that their scheme is really
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 22: difficult to figure out. And they've played a couple of
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 22: younger quarterbacks that they played Caleb Williams in his very
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 22: first game in the NFL and kind of he didn't
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 22: really do much in that game.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 5: So I think they are for real in the.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 22: Aspect of I like what they're doing schematically, and they
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 22: have you know, Jeffrey Simmons is still a legit player
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 22: in their front. But my guess is is if they
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 22: went up against you know, the top teams in the NFL,
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 22: they probably would give up points. But against a team
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 22: like the Patriots, that, yeah, I think they can give
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 22: you some problems. They it's really hard to identify what
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 22: they're in coverage wise, because they spin the dial a lot,
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 22: and they run a bunch of different types of coordinator.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 22: Denard Wilson who was with Baltimore last year, so he's
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 22: got some Baltimore flavor. You know, it's a lot of
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 22: guys up at the line of scrimmage. You don't know
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 22: who's coming, who's dropping, who's blitzing. They spin the dial
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 22: with the safeties a lot, so you're watching their film
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 22: but even you know, for me, I'm like, what is this,
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 22: Like what coverage.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 5: Are they in on this play?
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 22: Like, you know, you don't really can't really tell all
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 22: the time what they're doing back there.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: Do they have a ten How are they on big plays?
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: Do they give up big plays because of the do
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 3: they take? Are they a risky defense?
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 22: I would say, yeah, there, that's probably how I would
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 22: describe them as a defense that is pretty boom or bust.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 22: I mean last week they had a lot of short
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 22: fields Detroit did, and that contributed to them scoring fifty
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 22: two points. But when you watch the film, it's, yeah,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 22: they have some really good drives and then they give
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 22: up an eighty yard touchdown to Jamiir Gibbs.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 22: So there's a lot of that going on with their defense.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 22: But schematically they're pretty exotic. They're pretty advanced what they do.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, so it'll be interesting. Yeah, that's what I was like,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: I want to win the game, but to me, I
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: want Drake May to see as many different defenses as
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: possible this season.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 22: Yeah, that was kind of the take that we were
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 22: talking about off the air, is just you know, to
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 22: have Drake May playing a game like this. I think
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 22: the three defenses that he's seen so far are kind
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 22: of do what you do right type of defenses, and
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 22: they kind of play the same amount of different coverages
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 22: like you know Jaguars big Cover two team. You know,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 22: Jets and Texans basically have the same system that they're
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 22: running defensively from the forty nine ers, So those teams
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 22: are kind of just boiler played defenses, whereas this one
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 22: would have truly spun the dial on him, and it
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 22: would have been interesting to see how he reacted to
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 22: that mentally.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, now let's get back to the TPX outline.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: Todd's in North Carolina. What's up Todd?
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 23: Hey, guys for do for the hanging up on me there?
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: Well, I meant to put you on hold because I
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 3: wasn't ready you take you want to long hang up
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 3: on you? Sorry?
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 23: So I thought your early conversation, especially about looking at
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 23: the guy in the Ravens who played with Drake May,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 23: was kind of interesting to think about the future and projecting.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 23: And the guy said, like, who in in ten years do.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 11: You want to see on the team?
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 6: Do you want to see Drake May there?
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 23: Do you still want to see Mao coaching? And all
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 23: this made me think is right, now I can see
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 23: two areas where in the next three or four years
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 23: or maybe even next year might start writing hearing his
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 23: head is tight end and running back? Do we have
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 23: like a long term backup solution there? Did we draft
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 23: anybody that I met in either position that you know
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 23: we can look at and say, hey, this is a
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 23: long term proposition for the team and they'll grow with
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 23: may Or could we maybe pick somebody up at the
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 23: trade deadline who might be.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 3: Able to help with that at running back and tight end?
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 3: Its Yeah, that's kind of what I was he thanks,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 3: all right, thanks Tom?
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 5: Why are you so disrespectful today?
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 3: No, but of all the positions, like like I like Hunter,
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 3: Henry's should be here for a few more years, right,
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 3: running back act like change?
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 5: Well, Stevenson just signed anywhere.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not worried about those two positions.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 5: Unless they trade him.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 4: The only guys are Jean bell Is the third tight end.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 4: Mayo talked about him a little bit today. Was Henry Henry? Sorry,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 4: you know he's getting a little bit of action now,
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 4: or I mean we like that guy, Trol Jennings. He
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, he hasn't done anything. It's hard to get
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 4: mad about him, but.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 5: I thought he you know showed up a little bit
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 5: in in campus, a.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: Little bit more of a scat back, isn't he Well,
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 3: he runs with some good power to tackle break, but
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 3: he can catch passes right that.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 5: I have no idea.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 4: This summer he did a little bit. I mean in practice,
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 4: I just thought he looked smooth catching them. But I
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 4: don't know if he's actually like third down back. But
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 4: to me, like just looking at him, knowing he was
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 4: a tackle breaker, I thought he had pretty good hands.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 4: That that stood out to me this summer.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think you're going to have for the
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 5: for the short term. You have Henry and Stevenson are
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 5: going to be in the lead roles. So now you're
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 5: just looking and I know it's I was looking for backups.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 5: You know Todd's wondering, But I don't necessarily like that's
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 5: well down the list of things that you're going to
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 5: be looking at.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: Are we mildly pleased with Hooper? I mean he's done.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 4: I think he's fine. I mean I think the one
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 4: year deal he's going.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 4: I think that the thing for Todd's question is can
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 4: jahem Bell rise up to that second tight end role
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 4: next year? And then you know, then you've got a
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 4: guy in his second year and four year rookie deal
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 4: like that, that's ideals that he's gonna be able to
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 4: step up into me.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 5: I just personally haven't seen anything to indicate that. I mean,
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 5: I think he played one play the other day. The
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 5: two plays he's been in, you know, in an on
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 5: and off sort of the inactive list. I mean, I'm
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: intrigued just like everybody else with the athleticism, but I
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 5: don't know if he has I don't know what I mean,
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 5: realistic you take guys like sixth seventh round. Yeah, I
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 5: just don't know.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 22: Maybe we're gonna be like you hit one a traditional
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 22: in line tight end that's probably never gonna be jaheen
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 22: Bell's game. But obviously h back full back.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 5: To play he played the other day. He did that.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 22: Yeah, Like that's the type of stuff that I see
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 22: him doing, playing off the line and moving around the
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 22: backfield and things like that. But you know, running back
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 22: and tight end. I just would say that the two
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 22: guys in North Carolina right now that play with Drake
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 22: may or really interesting prospects coming up. Marion Hampton's the
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 22: running back and Bryson Nesbit is their tight end. Both
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 22: players played well with Drake there last year and we're
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 22: at his pro day, caught passes from him at the
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 22: pro day to you know, kind of get a head
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 22: start on the draft round.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: Where were they?
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 22: So Hampton is probably going to be a Day two guy,
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 22: you know, but like for running back, like drafted pretty high,
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 22: so that might be too high for the Patriots. Nesbit
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 22: was originally projected to be like a first round pick,
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 22: but he's tailor dropped off a little bit this year
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 22: because they don't have a quarterback. So he's still I
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 22: would say probably like a top one hundred, top one
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 22: fifty guy too.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 3: Might make my envelope, all right. Alfrom Wisconsin writes in
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 3: saying that Brissette gives a better chance to win is
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 3: absolutely insane. I wholeheartedly believe that May didn't start versus
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 3: Dolphins because they thought they could win for similar reasons.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: The fact is that May is the better player. We're
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 3: not disagreeing with that, and the reason that the production
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: is similar is only because the team has completely lost
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: all ability to run the ball.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 5: I would agree that May is a better player.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it's insane, though, I think going
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 4: against one of the worst teams in the NFL. That
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 4: a game where you just want to maybe try to
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 4: play safe and you know, not have boom or busts,
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 4: like if they're going up a team better than them.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 4: It's mayle.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 5: I'm also taken into consideration how little prep time it
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 5: may potentially is going to have for this game. That's
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 5: part of my part of it.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 3: The Yankees have issued a statement. Last night, two fans
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 3: were ejected from Yankee Stadium for egregious and unacceptable physical
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 3: contact with Dodgers outfielder Mookie Betts. The safety and security
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 3: of players, fans, and stadium staff is the foundational element
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 3: of every event held at Yankee Stadium, and it cannot
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 3: be compromised. Tonight marks the final home game of the year,
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 3: and we want every ounce of our fans passion on display.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 3: Yankee Stadium is known for its energy and intensity. However,
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 3: the exuberance of supporting one's team can never cross the
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 3: line into intentionally putting players at physical risk. The Yankees
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 3: and Major League Baseball maintain a zero tolerance policy toward
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 3: the type of behavior displayed last night. These fans will
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 3: not be permitted to attend tonight's game in any capacity.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 3: So there you go finger wags. Well that should have
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 3: their finger wagged at them.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 5: Go Dodgers.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, but you can't. You can't encourage that type
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 3: of behavior.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 5: No, no, I'm not saying that was bad.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 3: And what are you talking about.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 5: Just go Dodgers, that's all I'm saying.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I hate them both.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 22: Yeah, I don't really understand that, Like, why do you
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 22: Why do people around here hate the Dodgers's.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 5: I've always hated la they hate It's probably from the Lakers.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 5: But in the in the late seventies, there was always
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 5: the Dodgers and the Yankees in the World Series. I
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  Speaker 5: I hate for no reason, Rock Rocks.
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