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- 0:00Speaker 1: At a CBS town hall, and the smart kids are livid.
- 0:06Speaker 1: They can't believe that another point of view would allow
- 0:11Speaker 1: to be platformed on CBS on a Saturday night, by
- 0:15Speaker 1: the way, the graveyard shift. It wasn't primetime, it wasn't
- 0:18Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, it was a Saturday night. All we're
- 0:22Speaker 1: gonna put pressure on the advertisers and we're going to
- 0:25Speaker 1: people at CBS are reportedly furious and saying it was
- 0:28Speaker 1: a crap show. What it was a fantastic evening with
- 0:34Speaker 1: a young grieving woman who is a prominent, prominent voice
- 0:38Speaker 1: in America. Ye, but Mark, let's just go to the
- 0:42Speaker 1: natural extension of all this. They do want us killed,
- 0:45Speaker 1: they want us silenced. You mentioned Brown University. You did
- 0:48Speaker 1: see that one of the few conservatives on the Brown
- 0:51Speaker 1: campus was one of the victims, nineteen year old president
- 0:55Speaker 1: of the Young Republicans, young beautiful female who was killed.
- 0:58Speaker 1: And their speculation that she was targeted the way Charlie
- 1:02Speaker 1: Kirk was targeted. They how do we know, by the way,
- 1:06Speaker 1: because those inept officials at Brown still haven't They don't
- 1:10Speaker 1: have a suspect. One thousand cameras, Mark, they got a
- 1:13Speaker 1: thousand cameras. They had a person of interest where they
- 1:16Speaker 1: let him go in that funny they don't know they
- 1:19Speaker 1: don't know who did it, you know, but they do
- 1:21Speaker 1: know that one of the few Republican voices on that
- 1:25Speaker 1: campus was slaughtered on Brett Brown University. Meanwhile, go to
- 1:29Speaker 1: the Bondai Beach in Australia, Mark, this just astounds me.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Apparently a father and son. They had a bunch of
- 1:41Speaker 1: legally purchased guns. I thought you weren't allowed to have
- 1:45Speaker 1: guns in Australia. Oh, but it was the bold action kind.
- 1:49Speaker 1: And the guy was up there and did you see
- 1:51Speaker 1: the video of him using that bold action long gun
- 1:54Speaker 1: a long time.
- 1:55Speaker 2: He knew what he was doing, got off a lot
- 1:57Speaker 2: of shots, and the.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Cops evidently report, we're cowering. They didn't know what to do.
- 2:02Speaker 1: They didn't take him out until what thirty minutes after
- 2:05Speaker 1: he had killed They had killed fifteen other people.
- 2:08Speaker 2: And lord knows, there's no armed citizen ry nearby to
- 2:11Speaker 2: do anything about it.
- 2:12Speaker 1: And Mark, this is what this is what globalizing the
- 2:15Speaker 1: Intifada means. The Inada came to Bandai Beach in Australia.
- 2:21Speaker 1: And when I saw Zoe Ron Mam Donnie's statement of sympathy.
- 2:26Speaker 1: I thought, wait a minute, buddy, this is what this
- 2:29Speaker 1: is what you meant, wasn't it by globalizing the Intifada?
- 2:32Speaker 1: Don't play games now, you know anti semit This is
- 2:36Speaker 1: something that we got to deal with here and and
- 2:38Speaker 1: that leads us to the to the powwow today between
- 2:41Speaker 1: candas owns.
- 2:44Speaker 2: But before we finish it Australia, because you're totally right, Oh,
- 2:47Speaker 2: to be a fly on the wall in that room,
- 2:48Speaker 2: as candae ow And said, Erica Kirk will apparently get together.
- 2:51Speaker 2: I have deep concerns. But so the story in the video.
- 2:56Speaker 2: The one of the most compelling things about the Australia
- 2:58Speaker 2: attack is how it ended, or close to when it ended.
- 3:02Speaker 2: When a guy, when a heroic man confronts the gunman
- 3:06Speaker 2: comes up at an angle, grabs him and disarms him,
- 3:10Speaker 2: takes the takes the long gun away from him and
- 3:13Speaker 2: points it at him and doesn't shoot and kill him,
- 3:17Speaker 2: creating the instant question that I've asked, kind of rhetorically,
- 3:20Speaker 2: who among us could have Maybe you'd like to think
- 3:23Speaker 2: you would have. You've disarmed him, so maybe you feel
- 3:26Speaker 2: like you've defused the situation. Guy ran away and the
- 3:29Speaker 2: cops ultimately got him. Now, how much do you and
- 3:32Speaker 2: I love our buddy Kurt Schlickter.
- 3:33Speaker 1: Kurt Schlickter posted that was shameful of him to do that.
- 3:37Speaker 2: And I want to shamefel for him not to kill him.
- 3:39Speaker 1: And to kill him, I screamed at my computer screen. Yeah,
- 3:42Speaker 1: but you're a you're an army colonel. It's a little
- 3:45Speaker 1: bit different, colonel Kurt. You you served ably and admirably,
- 3:51Speaker 1: you would know what to do. On the other hand,
- 3:53Speaker 1: let's take it a step further. So he takes the gun,
- 3:56Speaker 1: he disarms him, and that video is wild. It's so.
- 4:00Speaker 1: I mean, look all the videos wild. A lot of
- 4:03Speaker 1: people got their phones out and took video as it
- 4:06Speaker 1: was happening. Do you know what they would have done
- 4:08Speaker 1: to him? If he would have shot an unarmed man
- 4:10Speaker 1: to death, they'd have charged him.
- 4:13Speaker 2: Yep, they would have marked. They would have had he
- 4:16Speaker 2: knows the culture that he's in the country, that would
- 4:18Speaker 2: be gun hating.
- 4:19Speaker 1: I'm not sure that wouldn't happen in America. I mean,
- 4:23Speaker 1: he was unarmed, he disarmed him. He I mean, you
- 4:26Speaker 1: look at a look at arms.
- 4:28Speaker 2: We should have called we should have called it a
- 4:29Speaker 2: mental health professional to defuse the situation.
- 4:31Speaker 1: But look at our gun laws and all that. As
- 4:33Speaker 1: you the whole bit about the right to retreat or
- 4:36Speaker 1: you have the right to defend yourself, he wouldn't have
- 4:38Speaker 1: been defending himself. Now, I guess you could have made
- 4:41Speaker 1: an argument in a greater good that he was preventing future.
- 4:45Speaker 1: This guy was clearly a terrorist. And the tragic part
- 4:48Speaker 1: is he went back up on the bridge and started
- 4:50Speaker 1: firing some more. He may have killed some more people
- 4:53Speaker 1: when that guy had but but look, and then there
- 4:56Speaker 1: was debate about whether he was a Christian or a Muslim.
- 4:59Speaker 1: Apparently the guy is actually a Christian who disarmed the terrorists.
- 5:03Speaker 1: First he was reported to be a Muslim. And not
- 5:06Speaker 1: that it matters, I.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Mean we instantly presumed the Arab sounding names. Oh instant Muslim. Yeah,
- 5:11Speaker 2: not something. But and I posted and I don't care.
- 5:14Speaker 2: I mean heroism as heroism, that's right. I guess it's
- 5:17Speaker 2: good for the pr if we get a Muslim hero
- 5:19Speaker 2: alongside an Islamist mascot.
- 5:22Speaker 1: I reposted something that actress Patty Heaton posted. She, of
- 5:26Speaker 1: course anybody who loves Raymond fame, and she's a big,
- 5:28Speaker 1: one of the rare conservatives, and she she reposted a
- 5:32Speaker 1: young Arab woman saying, look, as a Muslim, I condemned this.
- 5:37Speaker 1: This is horrific, and pat Patricia Heaton wrote more of
- 5:41Speaker 1: this please but but well, yeah, you say exactly. She
- 5:45Speaker 1: got a lot of pushback on that, saying nope, nope, sorry,
- 5:48Speaker 1: Islam is incompatible with Western culture.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Okay, And by the way, those are points you can make.
- 5:55Speaker 2: It doesn't embrace free speech, It certainly doesn't embrace equality
- 5:58Speaker 2: for women, certainly doesn't embrace, you know, keeping religion and
- 6:01Speaker 2: government sort of in their lanes, no separation of fine.
- 6:05Speaker 2: But if a Muslim person steps forward to say, look,
- 6:08Speaker 2: I am a Muslim and this was terrible, can we
- 6:11Speaker 2: please accept some human decency from people and not make
- 6:15Speaker 2: everything a talk show? Pardon me?
- 6:17Speaker 1: People, I know, but people don't want to People don't
- 6:19Speaker 1: want to know. But but let me ask you that
- 6:21Speaker 1: question is so I think you sort of answered it.
- 6:25Speaker 1: And the reason I'm bringing it up is that was
- 6:27Speaker 1: a quote from Charlie kirk Chorley before he was killed.
- 6:31Speaker 1: He posted, Islam is incompatible with Western culture. So you
- 6:35Speaker 1: agree with that?
- 6:37Speaker 2: I do. There are tenets of Islam practiced around the
- 6:42Speaker 2: world which are completely incompatible with the constitutional republic. So
- 6:45Speaker 2: American Muslims, of which there are many living here and
- 6:49Speaker 2: not wanting to kill anybody, need to shelve or subjugate
- 6:54Speaker 2: the portions of their actual faith. That calls for the
- 6:58Speaker 2: government where they live to be spray in the in
- 7:01Speaker 2: the in the dissemination of their faith, lead their lives.
- 7:06Speaker 2: They can lead their lives in their faith however they wish.
- 7:09Speaker 2: I'm like some of the grand policy stuff.
- 7:11Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable with that statement. I'm uncomfortable with saying Islam
- 7:15Speaker 1: is incompatible because it does then sort of put a
- 7:20Speaker 1: scrutiny on every single Muslim. I remember, maybe you shouldn't
- 7:23Speaker 1: be here.
- 7:24Speaker 2: Then is the kind of the which I which I
- 7:27Speaker 2: do not say, because we have religious freedom in America.
- 7:30Speaker 1: I keep thinking about a little place. I'm not going
- 7:32Speaker 1: to mention the name, and I hope you won't either,
- 7:33Speaker 1: But I used to go Denise and I would eat
- 7:36Speaker 1: in South Lake all the time on a regular basis,
- 7:39Speaker 1: owned by a Muslim family. And they were wonderful and
- 7:42Speaker 1: beautiful people and and actually pretty conservative and and and
- 7:46Speaker 1: so I think about I think about them. It's you know,
- 7:49Speaker 1: It's important to establish those kinds of relationships in your life,
- 7:52Speaker 1: of course, because then when somebody comes along and says, well,
- 7:54Speaker 1: Islam is incompatible, we got to kick out all the
- 7:57Speaker 1: all the Muslims for the United States. Then I think
- 7:59Speaker 1: about my friends in south Lake and remember not no,
- 8:02Speaker 1: that's that's that's a blanket statement. Back to Rob Ryder
- 8:06Speaker 1: for a moment we found in the archives. I interviewed
- 8:08Speaker 1: him years ago. Now figure that out, and uh, because
- 8:13Speaker 1: he because I brought it up. I said, look, you're
- 8:15Speaker 1: a well known Democrat activist, you're a lefty and I'm
- 8:19Speaker 1: a conservative. And Mark, he was so charming and so
- 8:24Speaker 1: gracious and so fun and playful. This is another thing.
- 8:28Speaker 1: It kind of kind of ties into what we're talking
- 8:30Speaker 1: about with Muslims. Not everybody who disagrees with us politically
- 8:35Speaker 1: needs to be banished, you know. I mean, we can.
- 8:37Speaker 2: Disagree with people, don't banish anybody.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Now, it was before, it was before, it was before Trump.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Before Trump, Well, he broke up sixty seconds. Candice Owen's
- 8:48Speaker 2: I mean, her mental breakdown has been savaging Erica Kirk, savaging,
- 8:53Speaker 2: Charlie savaging, turning Point USA. It's it's just it gets
- 8:56Speaker 2: worse every day. And now we learned that rather than
- 8:58Speaker 2: just going and other from TV and social media that
- 9:01Speaker 2: Candace owns and Erica Kirk will apparently have a private
- 9:04Speaker 2: sit down meeting today. Part of me is thrilled that
- 9:08Speaker 2: maybe this might bring some healing, but part of me
- 9:10Speaker 2: thinks Candace is trolling her. She had some epiphany. What
- 9:14Speaker 2: do you think happens in that room? And is it
- 9:15Speaker 2: a good thing or a bad.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Don't forget these these are young people who all know
- 9:18Speaker 1: each other. Candace was absolutely well known. She was part
- 9:22Speaker 1: of the tourney, and she and Charlie were one of
- 9:24Speaker 1: the original sounders of Turning, of course, and so she
- 9:28Speaker 1: and she knew Erica. Well. I think, look, there's nothing
- 9:31Speaker 1: bad of that. I don't think there's anything wrong with this.
- 9:33Speaker 1: Good for them. I'm glad they're sitting down. I don't
- 9:37Speaker 1: completely understand if Candas is going to back off.
- 9:40Speaker 2: I don't trust her.
- 9:41Speaker 1: I don't.
- 9:41Speaker 2: I don't trust her as far as I could want
- 9:43Speaker 2: it with prow, I don't. I do not trust her.
- 9:45Speaker 2: She is a broken, twisted woman. If this is evidence
- 9:50Speaker 2: that she has had an epiphany and is now going
- 9:52Speaker 2: to act better than great, I will celebrate that, but
- 9:54Speaker 2: going in, I would tell Erica keep your keep your
- 9:58Speaker 2: guard up every well, keep your guard up.