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The entire broadcast from Thursday 05/21/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: News Radio 570 WKBN Youngstown.
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: Give you the.
• 0:12
  Speaker 3: Defensive changes for Detroit in a moment. Eighth inning. 2-0
• 0:16
  Speaker 3: Cleveland still out there. Right-hander Birch Smith. Patrick Bailey 0
• 0:22
  Speaker 3: for 2. Bats left-handed. And takes ball one. Zach McKinstry
• 0:27
  Speaker 3: at second. Kevin McGonigal, now short. Colt Keith at third. Smith,
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  Speaker 3: the wind and pitch. Outside, 2-0. Bailey's flied out, fouled out,
• 0:39
  Speaker 3: but he's caught a four-hit shutout. Smith dealing. Bailey with
• 0:47
  Speaker 3: a drive. Deep right center field. On the run, Perez,
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  Speaker 3: and it is gone!
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  Speaker 4: Patrick Bailey's first home run as a Cleveland Guardian.
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  Speaker 2: A towering blast to right center.
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  Speaker 3: And the Guardians get a mammoth insurance run and lead
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  Speaker 3: it 3-0 here in the eighth. And what a welcoming
• 1:12
  Speaker 3: committee awaiting him in the first base dugout. He got
• 1:18
  Speaker 3: that critical RBI to tie the game in the ninth
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  Speaker 3: last night. And a blast to right center here in
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  Speaker 3: the eighth. Here's Brian Rocchio. Two doubles, two at bats.
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  Speaker 3: He takes down low, ball one. And Cleveland six outs
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  Speaker 3: away from a sweep. Now lead 3-0 in the eighth.
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  Speaker 3: That pitch down low, 2-0. Four-game series are still a rarity.
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  Speaker 3: Sweeping a four-game series... The pitch, 3-0, way outside and low.
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  Speaker 3: Smith shaken by the bomb. It is just so hard
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  Speaker 3: to sweep any team in four games. The pitch, there's
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  Speaker 3: the strike, 3-1. Much less the team now that's become
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  Speaker 3: your biggest rival in the AL Central. Now the 3-1 delivery.
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  Speaker 3: And strike two to Brian Rocchio. His two-out double in
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  Speaker 3: the third got things rolling when Daniel Schneeman then followed
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  Speaker 3: it with an RBI double and Jose Ramirez RBI single.
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  Speaker 3: Payoff pitch swung on line to left down the line.
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  Speaker 3: Foul by a foot or so. And Arrokia flips the
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  Speaker 3: bat in the air, catches it. Thought he had himself
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  Speaker 3: an opposite field extra base hit. So Cleveland with a
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  Speaker 3: 3-0 lead in the eighth. And of course, without your
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  Speaker 3: two big guns, Eric Cebrowski and Cade Smith to finish
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  Speaker 3: it off.
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  Speaker 2: You can't get enough runs.
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  Speaker 3: The pitch, swing and a foul, drifting down the left
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  Speaker 3: side out of play. Not that other guys can't get
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  Speaker 3: it done in the bullpen, because this is a very
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  Speaker 3: deep and a lot of quality in the bullpen, but
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  Speaker 3: there's a reason Cade Smith has become the best closer
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  Speaker 3: in the American League, and he's unavailable. As Roquio fouling
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  Speaker 3: it again into the third base seats. Will do it
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  Speaker 3: again at three and two. Cleveland trying to win it
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  Speaker 3: sixth in a row. Now the payoff. Swung and grounded
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  Speaker 3: in the hole. Base hit into right between first and second.
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  Speaker 3: Three hit game for Roquio. Here's a staggering number, at least.
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  Speaker 2: I think so, Rosie.
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  Speaker 3: We know that Detroit had a monumental collapse and Cleveland
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  Speaker 3: had an historical comeback. No team has ever been 15
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  Speaker 3: and a half games out and won a division title
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  Speaker 3: like Cleveland did a year ago, catching Detroit the last
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  Speaker 3: week of the season. But Detroit last year at the
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  Speaker 3: All-Star break had a double-digit lead had a record of
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  Speaker 3: 59-38 at the All-Star break a year ago. Now the batter,
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  Speaker 3: top of the order, Daniel Schneeman. The pitch, high. If
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  Speaker 3: Cleveland wins today, Detroit, since the All-Star break of a
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  Speaker 3: year ago, will be 48-68. 20 games under. 500 since
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  Speaker 3: the All-Star game. That pitch high, ball two, 2-0. So
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  Speaker 3: that is a staggering four-and-a-half-month decline for the Tigers. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure, as last season concluded, they just figured, all right,
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  Speaker 3: fresh start. We'll get it going again in 2026. But
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  Speaker 3: they've been hit by injuries and just haven't played well.
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  Speaker 3: They haven't swung the bats well. Now the 2-0 pitch.
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  Speaker 3: Check swing. He went around 2-1-1. Daniel Schneeman, one for three,
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  Speaker 3: an RBI single. Schneeman was asking, did I swing? And yes,
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  Speaker 3: his home plate ump, Manny Gonzalez. Two and one, the count.
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  Speaker 3: Runner at first, nobody out. Three-nothing Cleveland, eighth inning. Now
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  Speaker 3: the pitch. Rocio dancing off first. Outside, three and one. Remember,
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  Speaker 3: Cleveland leads the league in steals with 53, and Rocchio
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  Speaker 3: has eight of them.
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  Speaker 2: He could be running at any point. The 3-1 pitch.
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  Speaker 3: Outside he walked him, and Burt Smith has given up
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  Speaker 3: a home run, a single, a walk.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody out, two men on.
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  Speaker 3: And here comes Jose Ramirez, and this is the worst-case.
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  Speaker 2: Scenario for Detroit.
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  Speaker 3: Jose with an RBI single today in his career against Detroit.
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  Speaker 3: 36 homers, 46 doubles, 136 RBIs. The pitch, up and in,
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  Speaker 3: and it's called a strike. And all of those numbers
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  Speaker 3: have been compiled in 170 games, basically a little over
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  Speaker 3: a year. Think of that season if.
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  Speaker 2: You had it. The pitch. High, 1-1.
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  Speaker 3: 36 homers, 46 doubles, 136 RBIs against the Tigers. Two on,
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  Speaker 3: nobody out. Eighth inning, 3-0 Cleveland, the pitch. And he
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  Speaker 3: bangs it foul right side in the count of 1-2.
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  Speaker 3: Those numbers would put you in the MVP conversation for
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  Speaker 3: a full season.
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  Speaker 2: Which is where you usually see Jose Ramirez.
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  Speaker 3: At the end of the season, but it's been remarkable
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  Speaker 3: against the Tigers. Six times Ramirez top five in the
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  Speaker 3: MVP vote. He awaits the one-two delivery from the right-hander,
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  Speaker 3: Birch Smith.
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  Speaker 2: Here it comes.
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  Speaker 3: A swing and a foul right side will do it
• 7:43
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• 7:57
  Speaker 3: Outfield straight up, medium deep. Smith is ready, checks second,
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  Speaker 3: comes to the plate, and he misses up 2-2 the count.
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  Speaker 3: He drops that changeup a little bit lower, and it'll
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  Speaker 3: be 6-0 Cleveland. Now the two-two. Fouled it at the plate.
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  Speaker 3: We'll do it again at two and two. Smith, hand
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  Speaker 3: spelled high. Checks second. Now he fires, and the pitch
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  Speaker 3: fouled off again. Seven pitches and counting.
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  Speaker 2: If you go.
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  Speaker 3: Back to the last two weeks of last season, Cleveland
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  Speaker 3: took five out of six from Detroit to win the division.
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  Speaker 3: They're now 8-1 against Detroit. The pitch, down low, he
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  Speaker 3: didn't go. Last three series. Cleveland's gone 8-1 against the Tigers.
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  Speaker 3: They lead it 3-0 here in the eighth. And Jose
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  Speaker 3: Ramirez awaiting the ninth pitch of the event.
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  Speaker 2: Here it comes.
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  Speaker 3: A swing and a miss. Got him with a curveball.
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  Speaker 3: Bert Smith wins the battle. Here's Chase DeLauder 0-3.
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  Speaker 2: A big strikeout for Smith, and it's the last batter
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: he faces. A.J.
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  Speaker 3: Hinch with another pitching change. And Cleveland with a 3-0
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: lead here in the eighth. One out, two on.
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• 11:36
  Speaker 3: Emmanuel DeJesus coming on. He's a left-hander who has spent
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  Speaker 3: parts of 10 years in the minors. Cleveland with a
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  Speaker 3: 3-0 lead, minute first and second one out. DeJesus since
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  Speaker 3: coming up. A 2-0 record, but a 6.75 ERA and
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: a 3.04 batting average against. And he walks a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people. Left on left, here's Chase DeLauder. Rocchio at second,
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: Schneeman at first. 3-0 Cleveland, one down eighth inning. The pitch,
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  Speaker 3: and it's outside a ball. And remember, Chase DeLauder, better
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  Speaker 3: against lefties, even though he's left-handed, than against right-handed pitching.
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: Hitting 333 against southpaws. Really stays in there, takes them
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  Speaker 3: the other way. Now the pitch. Breaking ball strike on
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: the outer edge. Outfield playing. De Lauder as if he
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: were a right-handed pull hitter. Way around toward left. De Jesus,
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: not a hard thrower. Fastball, sinker, cutter, slider, changeup. The 1-1.
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  Speaker 2: Fouled it back and out of play. One and two
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  Speaker 2: to come.
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  Speaker 3: DeJesus, one of four pitchers the Tigers have on their
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• 13:03
  Speaker 3: either in Japan or Korea. He spent the last two
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  Speaker 3: years in Korea.
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  Speaker 2: The one-two.
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  Speaker 3: Breaking ball, hit a ton. Deep left center field. On
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  Speaker 3: the run is Riley Green. Reaches up, made the catch.
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  Speaker 4: Hitting second, scooting back to first is Schneeman. Roquio gets
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  Speaker 4: back to second. Roquio was partway to third. Schneeman was
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  Speaker 4: around second on his.
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  Speaker 2: Way to third.
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  Speaker 3: And Riley Green with a terrific running catch in deep
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  Speaker 3: left center. And the water smoked one the other way
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: and almost got rewarded. Here's Reese Hoskins with two down.
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  Speaker 3: Still 3-0 Cleveland. The set and pitch. A swing and
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  Speaker 3: a miss. Changeup away. Boy, if that ball got over
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  Speaker 3: the head of Green, then this game is blown wide open.
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  Speaker 3: Hoskins 0 for 3. Two looks to second. The runner's
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  Speaker 3: darting off. The runner second goes. Head first steal. Holding
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  Speaker 3: at first was Schneeman. Bluffing a throw was Dingler. Pitch
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  Speaker 3: was low to even the count. One and one the count.
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  Speaker 3: So give Rocchio his ninth steal. The trail runner has
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: to make sure that he doesn't get a late start
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  Speaker 3: and get thrown out. And if you have are in doubt,
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: then you do what Schneeman did, you stay put. He's
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  Speaker 3: at first, Brocchio at third. Two down, Cleveland up 3-0.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: The 1-1 pitch to Hoskins from Emmanuel DeJesus. Outside, it missed.
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  Speaker 2: Ball, two, 2-1-1.
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  Speaker 3: Hoskins trying to add to his team-leading 12 RBIs this month.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: The pitch to him, and it's down low, a changeup, 3-1. Poison,
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: a great hitter's count. Travis Pisano waits on deck. He, too,
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: hits left-handed pitching pretty darn well. Now the 3-1. Swung on,
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  Speaker 3: fouled it, straight back, good rip.
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  Speaker 2: Full count.
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  Speaker 3: So Schneeman will be off at first. Rocchio the runner
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: at third. Patrick Bailey's laid off homer to right center.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Putting Cleveland up 3-0 here in the eighth. Now the
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  Speaker 3: payoff pitch. A swing and a pop-up into the seats
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  Speaker 3: behind the plate.
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  Speaker 2: Will do it again.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Reese Hoskins played at Sacramento State University. Ninth year in
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: the big leagues with Philly, Milwaukee, now Cleveland. He awaits
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: the 3-2. Here it comes. And strike three called. He's
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: out looking. But Patrick Bailey's blast has given Cleveland a
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: 3-0 lead. The bottom of the eighth is next. Hey,
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• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Tim Heron facing Dylan Dingler. Bottom of the eighth, 3-0 Cleveland.
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  Speaker 3: Dingler one for three with a double. Heron the lefties
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  Speaker 3: pitch and a fastball wide and a challenge by Patrick
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  Speaker 3: Bailey who hasn't been wrong yet. And he's wrong for
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: the first time. So that call stays. A ball outside.
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  Speaker 3: Cleveland down to one last challenge. Detroit has both theirs.
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  Speaker 3: Heron got the last down in the seventh. 3-0 Cleveland.
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  Speaker 2: The pitch.
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  Speaker 3: There's a called strike. One ball, one strike. The next offering,
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  Speaker 3: shot foul outside of third. One ball, two strikes. So
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  Speaker 3: Patrick Bailey today, three for four. Incorrectly getting calls overturned.
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  Speaker 3: Reese Hoskins had a call overturned. So did Brian Rocchio.
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  Speaker 3: Usually Cleveland's not this successful. Now the one-two to Dingler.
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  Speaker 3: Fouled it back. We'll do it again at one and two.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they're Their best day of the year with the ABS.
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  Speaker 2: The bar wasn't real high.
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  Speaker 3: No, it wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: Two right challenges might have been their best day. Baby steps.
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  Speaker 3: Dingler and Dominic Canzone were teammates at Ohio State. He
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: drives this one high, deep to left. It's out of here.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a 3-1 ballgame. Dylan Dingler, his team-high ninth
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: home run as he golfed one over the wall and left.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: And the Tigers aren't going quietly. And how big now
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: is that Patrick Bailey home run? This will be the
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: last batter for Tim Herron. With a right-handed hitter on deck.
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  Speaker 3: Left on left is Riley Green. 0 for 3 to
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: the plate. So 3-1 Cleveland, 8th inning. The pitch to Green.
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  Speaker 3: Breaking ball and a beauty. Strike one called. Hands pelt high.
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  Speaker 2: The pitch. Breaking ball waved at.
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  Speaker 17: 0-2.
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  Speaker 2: For Tim Herron, that's first home run. He's given up.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Came in with a 1-15 ERA. Now the 0-2 to Riley. Green.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Fouled it back. Will do it again. 0-2 on Green.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: The league's top hitter with a. 333 mark has gone
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: 5-4-11 in the series.
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  Speaker 2: The pitch.
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  Speaker 3: And he checks, takes strike three, and he knew it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Heron gets his first strikeout. Here comes Voter. Here comes
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  Speaker 3: a pitching change. Here comes a commercial break.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: 3-1 Cleveland here in the eighth. Is your roof protecting
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  Speaker 1: News Radio 570 WKBN, Youngstown.
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  Speaker 2: Cody Hoyer coming on.
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  Speaker 3: The hard-throwing right-hander inherits a 3-1 lead with one out
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  Speaker 3: in the Tiger 8. Hoyer, appearance number two. He's worked
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  Speaker 3: two innings, giving up a run on three hits, two strikeouts,
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  Speaker 3: and a walk. Tim Heron, two-thirds of an inning, gave
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: up a run on a hit at a strikeout. Sean Armstrong,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: two-thirds of a scoreless inning with two strikeouts. Matt Festa,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: one-third of a scoreless inning with a strikeout. And a
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  Speaker 3: brilliant start by Joey Cantillo. Shut out the Tigers in
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: five and two-thirds, striking out six. Pinch hitter for Jemai Jones.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Fouling it off down the left side is Gage Workman.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Jemai Jones, a right-handed hitter, was 0 for 2 today.
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  Speaker 3: Workman batting 185. The pitch fouled back in the count 0-2.
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  Speaker 3: Goody Hoyer still throws pretty darn hard. Not as hard
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: as in his heyday with the White Sox, but still mid-90s.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Down the 0-2. Down and in, almost hit him. Looked
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: like he yanked a slider there, one and two. Fastball
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: slider change. Hoyer has been with the White Sox, Cubs, Texas,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: even here in Detroit.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Last year. And now Cleveland.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: He only pitched in three games in the big leagues
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: last year with Detroit and Texas most of the year
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: in AAA.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: The one-two.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Got him swinging on a change-up in the dirt. Workman
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: is out number two. That'll bring up Spencer Torkelson. One
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: for three with a single. Boy, if they don't get
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: him going, Rose, I I wonder where the thump is
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: going to come from. They have to get 30 and 80.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Out of this guy. Homer's RBIs. Right hand to Bat.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: The pitch. And he takes the strike.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: You talked about it early in the series. The roller
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: coaster he's been on since reaching the major leagues. He's
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: had some good years, but other years, just can't get
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: it going. And this has started out that way. Pitch
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: leans him back.
• 26:34
  Speaker 20: Well.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: It's been every other year, yeah. I mean, in 2023,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: first ever Tiger before the age of 24 to go 30-30-90.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: The pitch, that's high, 2-1. That was 30 homers, 30 doubles,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: 90 RBIs. Then in 2024, he was so bad, he
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: went back to the minor leagues. Then he had a
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: big year last year. Duh, 2-1. High, 3-1. But he
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: kind of mirrors what happened to the Tigers last year.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: 21 homers, 59 RBIs at the All-Star break. After the break,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: 10 homers, 19 RBIs.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: The 3-1.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Swung on, socked high in the air to right, not deep.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Coming in toward the line, De Lauder, foul ground, retires Torkelson.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Cody Hoyer. It's the two he was asked to get.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Now we go to the ninth, 3-1 Cleveland here in Detroit.
• 27:37
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• 27:43
  Speaker 1: News Radio 570, WKBN, Youngstown.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Travis Pisano leads off tonight. Breaking ball strike from the left-hander,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Emmanuel DeJesus.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Left on left. 3-1 Cleveland. A rare game for Travis Bozzano.
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  Speaker 21: 0-3.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: The 0-1. And he waves at it.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: 0-2.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: DeJesus got the final two outs in the eighth. He'll
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: work the ninth. Wondering if we see Hunter Gaddis to
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: try to get the save.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: The set. The pitch.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: High, one ball, two strikes. Yep, the big bearded one
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: is warming in the Cleveland pen. Cade Smith and Eric
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Cebrowski both getting today off. Now the one-two to Bozzana.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Swing and a foul back. Travis was saying, you know,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: in Australia at the end, he played both cricket and baseball.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: He said, there are some similarities there, in the swing
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: or the stroke, however you want to phrase it. But
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: he goes mostly, the similarity is hand-eye coordination, the pitch.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: And he takes down low, two and two, whether you're
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: hitting a cricket ball or a baseball. All about hand-eye coordination,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: and boy, he has it. Now the 2-2 to Bozzano.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Waved at, struck him out. So that is out number
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: one here in the ninth. That'll bring up Angel Martinez.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: He'll turn around bat right-handed. 0 for 3 today. If
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: you're just joining us, Cleveland three runs, six hits. Detroit
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: one run, five hits. A brilliant effort by Joey Cantillo.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Shut out Detroit over five and two-thirds.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: The pitch.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Curve ball strike. Casey Mize retired the first eight Cleveland
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: hitters with two down in the top of the third.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Brian Rocchio pulled one off the top of the wall
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: in the right field corner.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: A two-out double. The pitch. Fouled it back. Martinez almost
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: fell down. He swung so hard.
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: 0-2.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Daniel Schneeman followed with an RBI double to right. And
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: then Jose Ramirez followed with a two-out RBI single to
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: left center. They made it 2-0 in the third. Patrick Bailey,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: his first home run with Cleveland. A towering solo blast
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: to right center in the eighth. Tigers only run in
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: the eighth. A Dylan Dingler bomb to left. 3-1 Cleveland,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: ninth inning.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: The pitch. Swung on. A weak chopper headed to second.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Good changeup.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: And McKinstry throws out Martinez. Two down in the ninth.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Stephen Kwan, the batter.
• 30:52
  Speaker 17: 0-3.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: In the bottom of the ninth, it's the bottom of
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: the order. And Detroit's out of pinch hitters. The only
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: guy left on their bench is backup catcher Jake Rogers,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: and they won't use him as a pinch hitter. So
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: it'll be Perez Keith McKinstry in the bottom of the
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: ninth against Hunter Gattis. Now the pitch, and it backed
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: him off the play to fastball for ball one. 3-1 Cleveland,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: two down, bases empty, ninth inning in Motown. The 1-0,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: outside ball two, 2-0. Now the lefty wants a new baseball.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Biggest crowd of the series today, 25,687. Now the 2-0 pitch.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Outside 3-0. Since leaving the leadoff spot, this is game
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: six out of the top spot. Been on base 12 times.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Nine via the walk. The pitch in there.
• 32:10
  Speaker 17: 3-1.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: But this guy is just very easy with his delivery
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: in its mid-90s. Doesn't look like DeJesus is throwing that hard.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: The 3-1.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Swung on, grounded up the middle, near second. The shortstop
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: McGonigal throws out Kwon. It's up to Hunter Gattis as
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: he will try to get his first save of the year.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Bottom of the ninth coming up, 3-1 Cleveland.
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  Speaker 3: Hunter Gattis will try to get his first save of
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: the campaign. He'll work the ninth inning, 3-1 Cleveland. Two-thirds
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: of a scoreless inning by Cody Hoyer. Gattis, one win,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: 573 ERA, 15th outing, but he's getting sharper now since
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: the injury. Fastball slider change. Wincel Perez batting left-handed, takes
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: a strike on a good slider. Perez 0 for 3.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: This is the fifth relief pitcher to work.
• 35:10
  Speaker 22: They 0-1.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: In the dirt, changeup, 1-1.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: If Cleveland wins this game, this is one of those
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: huge wins for a club. Not because it's a sweep,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: but a day where you potentially have five different relievers.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Work to get a win. Some of these guys not
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: normally in this role.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: The pitch. A swing and a foul back. 1-2.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: No Cebrowski. No Cade Smith. No Colin Holderman today. So really,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Cleveland at the moment is down to their last bullpen arm.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: It's been Festa, Armstrong, Heron, Hoyer, now Gattis.
• 35:56
  Speaker 14: The 1-2.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Swing and a foul back over the screen into the
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: home plate seating area. Still a ball and two strikes.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Went over the last three years with these great bullpens. Yes,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: there have been outstanding closers, but it's been the depth
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: that's really been a huge key.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Now the 1-2. Swing and a little pop-up.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Shallow right, DeLauder coming in, the right fielder, and shallow
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: right retiring Perez, one down. Boy, the Tigers have to
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: be wondering what the heck is going on. Cleveland has
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: dominated them in this series. The Tigers have scored three
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: runs in one game, two runs in two of the games,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: two runs each game, one run today. Here's Colt Keith,
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: walked his only time up, left-handed hitter, the pitch, and
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: it's in there, a called strike, 95 miles an hour.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: That's eight runs for Detroit in this series. They've never
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: had more than seven hits in a game. The pitch,
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: high and wide. In fact, the Tigers, five hits today.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Three of the games they've had five hits. One of
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: the games, seven. That is some kind of pitching by Cleveland.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Now the 1-1.
• 37:24
  Speaker 11: Outside, 2-1-1.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: If they are able to pull this off a sweep,
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: and you hold the Tigers to an average of two
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: runs and five hits a game, well, that is beyond
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: what you could have expected. The pitch, swing, and a miss.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Moved that fastball in on the hands, Colt Keith. Now
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: with a 2-2 count, one out, ninth inning, 3-1 Cleveland.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Keith took a little stroll. Now he climbs back in.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Gattis the set. And the pitch. Swing and a foul upstairs.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Will do it again at 2-2. Hunter Gattis out of
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Georgia State University. Fifth round pick by Cleveland in 2019.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Was the starter. But has found his niche in the pen.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: The 2-2.
• 38:26
  Speaker 25: Strike!
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Three called!
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: He took a 95-mile-an-hour fastball.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Two down.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Mesa's empty. Zach McKinstry, the batter. He struck out his
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: only time up. Think the Tigers are sick of seeing
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: the Guardians?
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Three to one, Cleveland. Two down in the ninth.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Here's the pitch.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Swung on line drive, leaping attempt by Bazzano over his
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: head at second. Fielded in right by De Lauder, Tigers
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: have life. Matt Bierling the batter after the two-out single
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: to right by Zach McKinstry. Now the tying run to
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: the plate and Bierling has four homers. 0 for 3
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: with a walk. He bats with two down, a runner
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: on Cleveland with a 3-1 advantage. Behrling has struck out twice,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: grounded out, walked in the series two for 13. with
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: a home run. Righty-righty matchup. The set and delivery. And
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: it's a touch inside, a changeup. Patrick Bailey says, why
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: not take another challenge?
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: We lose it, who cares? They win it!
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Bailey is four for five in challenges today.
• 39:56
  Speaker 12: Wow.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Nothing and one the count on Matt Veerling. The set
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: and the 0-1 to Veerling. Swing and a foul on
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: a play to the right.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: 0-2. And getting a change-up strike.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Now has the hitter with that in the back of
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: his mind knowing it's not just fastball slider anymore from
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Hunter Gaddis. Hoskins behind the runner at first to pitch.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Swing and a drive foul down the right side will
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: do it again. Nothing into the count. Tigers down to
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: their last strike. Cleveland with a 3-1 lead in the ninth.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Two down, a runner at first. Hunter Gattis pounding the
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: strike zone. He sets. He fires.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: And Verling waves at it.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Ball game. Gattis with a strikeout. Cleveland with a four-game sweep.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: And they've now won six in a row. And they
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: have pushed the Tigers nine and a half games out
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: of first. Cleveland wins it today in the Motor City.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Three to one.
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• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Well, welcome back to Comerica Park here in downtown Detroit.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: We've said it time and again, it's always hard to
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: sweep a team in a series. Normally, though, you're talking
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: about trying to sweep a team. in a three-game series,
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: but to come into this ballpark and sweep a four-game
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: series and in the process hold the Detroit Tigers to
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: eight runs in the four games is just incredible pitching
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: by Cleveland. And then you add that stunning comeback last night,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: tying the game in the ninth, winning the game in
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: the tenth, and obviously winning Cleveland is on its best
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: stretch of the year. They've now won six in a row,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: nine out of ten. They're suddenly 30-22. And all of
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: a sudden, Cleveland's record puts them with the third-best mark
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: in the American League, only behind the Yankees and Tampa Bay.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: And the Guardians at the moment with a three-and-a-half game
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: lead over the White Sox and for Detroit. They have
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: now fallen 11 games under. 500 and nine and a
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: half games out of first. They head to Baltimore. Cleveland
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: heads to Philadelphia. Here are your final numbers. It is
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Cleveland three runs, six hits, no errors, four left. Detroit
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: one run, six hits, no errors, nine stranded. Joey Cantillo
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: the win. He was magnificent. Shutout ball through five and two-thirds.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: He's four and one. Hunter Gattis, a dominant ninth inning
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: with his first save of the year. Casey Mize pitched
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: well but lost.
• 43:12
  Speaker 26: He is 3-3.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Time of the game, 2 hours 40 minutes.
• 43:13
  Speaker 24: The attendance, 25,687.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Cleveland, now with a record of 30-22.
• 43:15
  Speaker 24: Tigers, now 20-31.
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• 43:34
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• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Again today, Cleveland completes a four-game sweep, winning 3-1.
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  Speaker 3: Good afternoon once again, everyone. Welcome back to Comerica Park
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  Speaker 3: for the Guardians as they complete a three-game series sweep
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  Speaker 3: of the Tigers this afternoon, winning today by a final
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  Speaker 3: score of 3-1. We'll have the Honda drive-at-home game summary shortly.
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  Speaker 2: Louis.
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  Speaker 3: Brandon Lau with an inside-the-park home run. It was his
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: 13th home run of the season. Other action this afternoon
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  Speaker 3: in the major leagues. The Mets and Nationals will get
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  Speaker 3: started shortly. And that's it in terms of day baseball
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  Speaker 3: in the big leagues today. Right here, a 3-1 win
• 46:30
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• 46:43
  Speaker 3: It's Guardians wrap-up from Comerica Park in Detroit. And another
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: good day in Detroit for the Guardians with a 3-1
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: victory today. And they got it going in the third inning,
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: snapping the scoreless tie off of starter Casey Mize. And
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: they got it done with a two-out rally. Brian Rocchio
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: with a double to keep the inning going. And that
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: brought Daniel Schneeman to the plate.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Now the 1-0. Swung on, hit high in the air
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: to right.
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  Speaker 3: Long run near the line for Perez.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: And it drops for a base hit. Scoring Rocio. Throw
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: to second. Head first slide, a double. 1-0 Cleveland. On
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: what sounded like a broken bat fly ball near the
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: line and right.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Medium deep at best, but Perez had so much ground
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: to cover that he couldn't get there. And back-to-back two
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: out doubles. Cleveland up one to nothing. Schneeman is ninth
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: to bagger, and it gives him 19 RBIs on the year.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Next up for the Guardians, Jose Ramirez. Now the 1-2 pitch.
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  Speaker 3: It looked like Jose Ramirez went down and got a
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  Speaker 36: They made him work in the first, so it's for
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  Speaker 36: him to get through five and two-thirds after that first inning.
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  Speaker 30: Outstanding job by Joey and Patty.
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  Speaker 2: To get it going. What does it say about how
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  Speaker 2: you guys scored with how well Mize pitched as well?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 36: Obviously, Rokey with the two-out double, Schnee following it, and Hosey.
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  Speaker 36: I mean, that's how you got to do it. You
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  Speaker 36: got to string hits together. Mize was really good today.
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  Speaker 36: You know, landing his two fastballs, the split, the backdoor slider,
• 56:24
  Speaker 36: really good.
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  Speaker 2: And so for us to scratch two across.
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  Speaker 8: Off him was..
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: What do you think of Angel's play? He almost got
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• 56:31
  Speaker 2: on the left-field line.
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  Speaker 36: Angel's been playing amazing defense on the corners.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: He really has.
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  Speaker 36: Like we talked about, he's been a big part of
• 56:39
  Speaker 36: what we've done so far.
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  Speaker 2: And we've just got to continue pushing.
• 56:42
  Speaker 13: Is he okay?
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's fine.
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  Speaker 36: Knocked the wind out of him a little bit, but
• 56:44
  Speaker 36: he's all right.
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  Speaker 2: A couple guys down in the bullpen.
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  Speaker 30: I assume you had you stitched together the final few innings.
• 56:49
  Speaker 30: What do you think of each of those guys?
• 56:51
  Speaker 36: That's why we throw everybody in leverage at all times.
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  Speaker 36: You're going to have days like this. where maybe the
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  Speaker 36: usual suspects are down. But everybody stepped up in a
• 56:59
  Speaker 36: huge way and did their job across the board.
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  Speaker 2: It was awesome.
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  Speaker 36: Is there a temptation in a tight game to say,
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  Speaker 36: I've been pretty good about when guys are down, leaving
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  Speaker 36: them down. That's how you can't do it. If you
• 57:14
  Speaker 36: keep running them out there, you're not going to sustain
• 57:16
  Speaker 36: a full season. So those guys earned a well-deserved day off,
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  Speaker 36: and the other guys got their opportunities and picked them up.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: How do you make your guys' success here? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: but the past two years, really, it seems like it's
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  Speaker 36: You know, it's one of those things that you really
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  Speaker 36: divisional opponents, and, you know, we always come in hoping
• 57:37
  Speaker 36: to get, you know, win a series, but this is
• 57:39
  Speaker 36: a tough place to play, and they played us tough
• 57:41
  Speaker 36: this series.
• 57:43
  Speaker 27: With Rokio from the three hits again from the bottom
• 57:46
  Speaker 27: of the lineup, what has he done for you from
• 57:47
  Speaker 27: that spot?
• 57:48
  Speaker 36: I mean, just setting the table for the, you know,
• 57:51
  Speaker 36: the meat of the order, and, uh, his two strike
• 57:54
  Speaker 36: at bats have just been unbelievable. And, uh, Rokey's really
• 57:57
  Speaker 36: starting to come into his own as a hitter and, um,
• 58:00
  Speaker 36: really embracing that role of getting on base and finding
• 58:02
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  Speaker 36: that Rokey's showing. And, um, again, another guy, just like
• 58:10
  Speaker 36: on hell, we got to continue to push them and
• 58:11
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• 58:12
  Speaker 30: With, uh, what did Carl say to Cantillo first inning to.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Get him out of that?
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  Speaker 22: I never asked.
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  Speaker 36: Carl's got the secret sauce. He's got the, uh, He
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• 58:25
  Speaker 36: like I said, Joey, they made him work. They fouled
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  Speaker 36: off a ton of pitches, especially in that first inning.
• 58:29
  Speaker 36: But he continued to pound the strikes.
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  Speaker 30: He's had a lot of success in that situation.
• 58:33
  Speaker 37: Is there a reason he's having to pitch out on
• 58:35
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• 58:38
  Speaker 2: It's his stuff. I mean, it's hard to square him up.
• 58:40
  Speaker 36: It really is. It's hard to square Joey up. And
• 58:42
  Speaker 36: so when he's pitching in good counts, he's getting ahead,
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• 58:50
  Speaker 3: So that'll do it for our coverage here today as
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: the Guardians, with the win, keep it rolling. Their sixth
• 58:55
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• 58:59
  Speaker 3: and they will open tomorrow in first place in the
• 59:01
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• 59:04
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• 59:08
  Speaker 3: fall as they have lost six games. in a row,
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: falling to 20 and 31 on the year. They are
• 59:14
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• 59:17
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• 59:25
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  Speaker 2: have been disappointed by about all the presidents, maybe with
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: the exception of Reagan. Republicans and Democrats have been a
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: disappointment to me. They've been globalists. And I've found them
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: very disappointing. I never thought that they had this country's
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: best interest at heart or certainly not my best interest
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: at heart. And I've watched this over the years. So
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: I was never, oh, it's if the Republicans are, everything's OK.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: The Democrats are, as I said to you numerous times,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: these parties have changed over the years. The Democrat Party
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: used to be the more working person party, became now
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: the party of the far left progressives and the oddballs.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: The Republican Party used to be the party of the
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: snobs and the elitist business community. And it shifted to
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: be more the party of the America first Trump change
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: your party party. and a working person. So the Republican
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: Party changed over the years its image, and the Democrat
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Party changed theirs. So that's why you see many people
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: that used to be Democrats who are now Republicans, and
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: that's why you see the shift that's going on out
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: there as far as where people happen to be with
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: their political alignments. The parties have changed. So when we
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: would have the primary and people would be arguing, oh,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: this person hasn't been a Republican that long. Well, that's
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: because the party changed and they changed as a party changed.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: So it comes down to this. And it all stems
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: from this Tom Massey situation yesterday. I believe Tom Massey,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: once again, is a great American. I sincerely believe that
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: you have a right to disagree with the president. I
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: do not agree. with this situation in Iran. I mean,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: I think Trump has gotten into a mess. It's gone
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: on longer than he anticipated it was going on, would
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: go on. And I think they're trying to look at
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: a way of how to get out of this and
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: save face. And it's caused a lot of major headaches
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: in this country with affordability and gasoline prices, major headaches.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: that have a tendency potentially to get worse. I want
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: to talk, hang on, I want to talk more about
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: that with JJ and take some of your calls. And
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: I've probably got to talk a lot more about it
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: tomorrow since we have a short segment. Back in a minute.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: I heart the new KBN. A lot of this I'm
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: going to have to get into tomorrow just because it's
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: such a short segment.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 41: You're running on some short time. In fact, my wife
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 41: is going to be pulling up with our son, and
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 41: she's got to run to work, so I've got to
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 41: get him inside. But I just wanted to let you
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 41: know that, and I say it every day, but I
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 41: think that, yes, I do get you. And I'm proud
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 41: of you. And whether it's coming from me, whether it
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 41: means anything or not, you stand for something. You stand
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 41: for what you believe, whether it's something I disagree with
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 41: or agree with. But that's what makes you. That's why
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 41: I like you. So that's why I respect you, believe
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 41: it or not. It's not because you agree with me.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 41: It's because you disagree with me at times. So I
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 41: think you're pulling up right now.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: But listen, be blessed.
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  Speaker 39: I'll be listening to you.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 41: And I'll give you a call tomorrow or the next day, buddy.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Thank you, J.J., the liberal. There is definitely, when they
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: say a cult, I mean, I think that there are
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: some people that think that you should never disagree with
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Trump or anything about Trump at all. And no matter
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: what he says that the people should vote in lockstep
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: with or agree with everything he's doing. And I don't
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: agree with that. I sincerely do not agree with that.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: And I've said to you numerous times, and I'll get
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: into more of this tomorrow when we have time on
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: this situation. I look at this whole Massey thing, and
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: really no one knows anything about the guy that defeated Massey.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: He's an enigma. He's a Trojan horse. He wouldn't debate Massey.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's very odd that the guy that wants
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: to take on Massey refuses to debate him. or say
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: where he stands on anything on anything at all. And
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: if it was just, Oh, this is just how it's
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: going to go. Then there, there's a reason why these
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: lobby groups spent 10 million plus dollars to get rid
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: of a guy. If it wasn't just some popular groundswell
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: to get this guy out of there. Now there's a
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: lot of money that was spent to get them out
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: of there because of special interest to try to get,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: get the guy out of there. It's a, For a
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: guy we know absolutely nothing about other than, I guess,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: whatever Trump says he'll vote for without questioning anything. I
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: really didn't approve of that when it comes to the Democrats.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: And I think you got to give some degree of thought.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: It's okay to disagree with the president. I found it
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: odd when so many people agreed with everything Biden did
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: about didn't find that a great party. I thought it
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: was just weird that these people stopped thinking. That they
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: couldn't acknowledge this guy wasn't running the country. That they
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: couldn't acknowledge the lawfare and the things that were going on,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: which were just... totally and completely wrong, but they didn't
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: stray from it out of fear of Nancy Pelosi, out
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: of fear of being challenged in a primary or something
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: like that. Somewhere along the line, they lost their courage
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: and they lost their soul and they lost their independence.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: And that's why I say when we know the reasons
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: why they were opposed to Massey, and if you take
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: a look at just totally being opposed to foreign aid,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: which I am as well. And I say to all
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: of you, Medicare's in deep trouble financially. Social Security's in
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: deep trouble. The country's $ 40 trillion in debt. It isn't
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: going to go on like this forever before all of
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: this can be affected by it in the blink of
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: an eye. So shouldn't we take care of America first
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: and stop some of this nonsense? Back with your call.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 24: 570-WKVD.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: WKVN. 434 in the afternoon. We're at 66 degrees on
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: a Thursday, May 21st. And you're on the air.
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  Speaker 26: Are you listening and i'm talking you should be paid
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 26: forty five minutes left in although i'm saying it this
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 26: thing with uh... with uh... the the lame of congress
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 26: that we have the two of them were going on
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 26: vacation uh... trump can now adjourn congress by the way
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 26: under the constitution i read last night he can adjourn
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 26: congress just like obama did they get all his all
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 26: his people past you know the is uh... You know,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 26: the ones that he recommended. And he can get some.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: Bills, Pat.
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  Speaker 26: He can do all that. Because Congress took a vacation.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 40: They're not there.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 26: So he can adjourn it and do his business. That's
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 26: what I would do.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Well, if that's true and accurate, then why doesn't he
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: do it? You're talking about he can make his executive
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: orders in the laws, according to you.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 26: No, he can codify his executive orders.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, why doesn't he do it then?
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 26: Well, then, we'll see. We'll see this weekend.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: We'll see. We'll see what happens.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 26: All right. Also, I believe he's going to hit Iran
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 26: because the Supreme Leader said we're not giving up any.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 18: Right.
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  Speaker 19: Did you hear that?
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 25: What do you say?
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 20: Right.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, so what's the next step? I mean, okay.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: So how was, so did we do a lot of
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: that already? I mean, I mean, so we did the
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: bunker buster. We did all the bombing, the bombing in
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: the past. So now we'll go do some more bombing.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 42: Right.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: Okay. What do you do if that doesn't work? Well,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't understand. We've done all of this stuff.
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  Speaker 14: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 26: There's still 25 percent, 35 percent left. And then also
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 26: Carg Island.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: So you're saying if we bomb them some more, this
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: should reach an end?
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 26: Oh, sure, because a lot of the military, you know,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 26: what do you call those the Army has?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: They can be wiped out.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 26: And then, of course, Carg Island, now we've got control
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 26: of the oil. You know what they're doing, Ron? As
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 26: of two days ago, they've been dumping the oil in
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 26: the ocean. You know, we're the environmental people here. You
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 26: know what I mean?
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: I know exactly what you mean.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 26: Okay, now wait a minute. I don't want you to
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 26: worry too much of that because I did my research
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 26: when I was in Florida. Remember when they had the
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 26: BP spill and everybody was freaking out like, oh, it's
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 26: going to poison all the groundwater underneath Florida? Remember all that?
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 26: Well, I did my research, and there's actually a bacteria
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 26: in the ocean that eats oil. So it cleaned it
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 26: up in three months.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, we'll stay tuned. We'll see what happens.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: Baba Ganoush, thank you. You're on the air.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 42: Ronald.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Ted the Conservative.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 40: I'm out here walking the dog, listening to the world-famous
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 40: Ronald Webb show.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: With his bunged leg.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 40: Yeah, but it's getting better. I'll tell you what, it
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 40: looks really good today.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 17: Really?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 40: I get to see it once a week.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Do you limp or do you have to?
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 8: No, I can walk.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 31: Okay.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 40: I can walk good for an old guy.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: All right, well, that's good. So it's healing. That's what
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: matters most.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 40: Yeah, it's healing. It's healing. But listen, I've got to
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 40: give you an idea. Because I'm walking the dog, like
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 40: I said, no plans on calling Ron today. I've got
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 40: nothing to say. But you've confirmed something I've been saying
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 40: for 12 years. I had to call in. There is
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 40: a cult. You're spot on. Everything you said to start
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 40: the program is spot on. And, you know, I was attacked.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 40: If you think over the years how much I've been attacked.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 40: Oh, my goodness gracious. The cult is real. They're angry.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 40: And you can't say anything against the king or else
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 40: they will come after you. They've done it to me.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 17: Correct.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: Correct.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 40: I mean, it's so childish. I'm going to be very honest.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 40: I can't wait.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, what troubles me is it's almost like a
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: circular firing squad. You suddenly, the cult members are attacking
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: people that helped get Trump elected. I mean, I mean,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: the Trump had on a stage with them. I don't
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: care if it's Marjorie Taylor Greene or Tucker Carlson or
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: any of these people, Massey, you name it, because they
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: disagree with them. Now they're stupid. They're low IQ. He
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: attacks them, but they were there to help him get elected.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, it. I find that just crazy.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 40: It's insanity. It just, and I'm not saying I agree
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 40: with everything. He says, or anyone, right.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 25: But everyone, everyone's allowed to have their own opinion.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 40: They're grown adults. And he's just such a petty guy
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 40: and such a narcissistic person that you, you know, it
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 40: would be horrible to be around him 24 seven, because
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 40: you've got to basically worship him. I think, you know,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 40: It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: And I think Netanyahu knows how to play the guy. Oh,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: he's the best president Israel's ever had. I mean, they
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: are playing to his ego. Watch when they're around.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 40: Yeah, I think a lot of leaders play to his ego.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 40: A lot of statesmen play to his ego. They know
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 40: what to say to get what they want. Now, again,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 40: it doesn't mean I don't like the guy. It doesn't
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 40: mean I wouldn't vote for him again.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 40: You've got to call it like it is, or else
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 40: you're part of the cult.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, I sit back and I say this to
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: myself and I'd say this to you. Would I be
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: OK with if Biden was president and he had his
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: personal lawyer take over the Department of Justice and his
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: personal lawyer gave him total and complete immunity from any IRS, him,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: his family and his businesses, total immunity from any type
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: of IRS audit ever?
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 40: No, we wouldn't support that.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, all of these people, all these people would
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: be saying, well, look at that. Look at what Biden
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: did for his family. Well, that's what they that's what
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: happened when Trump put his personal lawyer in charge of
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: the DOJ. His personal lawyer came up with this one
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: point eight billion dollars for this. If you've been affected
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: by the government. But the interesting part is, okay, the
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: IRS is totally barred from looking at anything with Trump,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: his family, his businesses, tax returns. Totally barred from it. Now,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: would everyone be okay if Biden did that for his family?
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: I would be okay with that if any politician did that.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 40: And I think it speaks to the bigger issue of,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 40: you know, that was, I think it was premeditated. That
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 40: was the end goal. That was the objective, to begin
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 40: this process and to end it the way it is.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 40: It's just unfortunate. He is who he is. I used
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 40: to beat my head against the wall up until about
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 40: six months ago when I came to the conclusion that
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 40: I'm just not going to react to the stupid things
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 40: he does, stupid things he says. I'm going to support
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 40: him from an economic and legislative standpoint because I know
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 40: when it comes to that stuff, he does mean well.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 40: And he is trying to fix the country, but he
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 40: gets distracted. He's probably got attention deficit disorder, too. But,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 40: you know, hey, I support him.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 26: I hope he does well.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 40: I hope he can get it out of his head.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: I would be the first one to say the same thing.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: It's awful windy out there. I'm sorry. Let me let
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: you go because it's windy.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Listen, I hope the whole Iran deal works out.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 9: But..
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: I sit back. They kept telling me a deal's eminent,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: a deal's eminent. How many weeks ago? Well, was that
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: true or false? I thought when we dropped the bunker buster,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: that took care of everything. Then all of a sudden,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: that wasn't good enough. Now we dropped all these other bombs. Oh,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: now we got them right where we need them. You know,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: we got them all cut off at the blockade and everything. Well,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: They still haven't agreed to any of this. And so
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: what's the answer now? Well, let's just bomb them some more.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: all right what makes you think that's going to work
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: this time so I just sit back and look at
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: this so you say to yourself okay so let's go
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: do that some more what why do you think that'll
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: be successful As I say, do you really understand their culture?
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: Or they just dug in and said, okay, well, we're
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: not going to do that. We'll wait this out. And
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: so many of these people just, I mean, there's a
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: lot here. I hope it works out. I hope it's successful.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: Hope it brings them to their knees and all that
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: kind of jazz. But it can also go the other
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: way too. And it can go the way to where,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: as I said to you, I believe in America first.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: I believe this country needs its problems fixed first. And
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: all of you listening, we're not worried about a nuclear
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: weapon in Iran and staying up at night till the
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: neocons beat that drum trying to tell you that this
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: was the most important issue on the planet. So, I'm
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: not for destroying the American economy for any special interests
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: that thinks we should be doing this kind of stuff.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, just think of where this economy would have
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: been if he would have stayed the course. Would have
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: done what, why people elected him. Get these people out
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: of the country that are here illegally, which has certainly
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: had the brakes tapped on that. Get energy prices down,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: get inflation down. That's why he was elected. He wasn't
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: elected for regime change in Iran, nuclear weapons in Iran,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: and the status quo on the Epstein files. You have
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: to ask yourself, why did Trump do a 180 on
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: those two very vital issues? Why did he do a
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  Speaker 2: 180 on Epstein? Why did he do a 180 on
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  Speaker 2: the situation in Iran?
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 15: Why?
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: Why did he do something like that? Sometimes you got
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: to say that. Doesn't mean you hate the guy. Doesn't
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: mean you'd go vote for Kamala Harris. But sometimes you
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  Speaker 2: got to say to yourself, if Biden was doing this,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: would you approve? Would you approve? Or if whatever, some
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: Democrat was doing it, pick whoever you want. The opposition
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: party would say, oh, that's okay. If you're upset because
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: the Biden family was making a ton of money because
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: of Joe Biden, should he be upset if the Trump
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: family is making a ton of money because of Donald Trump?
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: As far as the government's connections are concerned? Or is
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: it a double standard? Something to think about. And a
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: lot of people don't want to think about that. Let's
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: just keep the blinders on. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 25: Well, the Biden family didn't have a single business to
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 25: make money off of, and they traded... Oh, about 10,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 25: 12 different LLCs that weren't non-existent.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about their hotel business and their naming business.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: Just stay tuned.
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  Speaker 25: No, it doesn't matter what business you're talking about. They're
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 25: not selling the country out like Biden did. Biden allowed
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 25: those balloons, weather balloons, to fly up over our country
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  Speaker 25: through sensitive areas from China. That's not what's going on here.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 25: You have a drone industry that there's about 10 or
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 25: 12 different drone makers out there in that market, including
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 25: the Trump family. That's where they're making money at, and they.
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  Speaker 2: Haven't won yet. There's a hell of a lot of
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: people making money short in the market and playing the
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: markets at a level we've never seen, and they haven't
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: been identified. which I find very interesting at this point
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: in time because somebody's got insider information that's not making
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: a little bit of money, that's making a ton of money.
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  Speaker 14: True.
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  Speaker 25: And we'll be seeing, and so we'll look at that.
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  Speaker 2: You'll never find out. You will never, when you say
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: you'll look at it, you will never know. You'll never
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: find out. Because just like you never know the person
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: that shorted the airlines before September 11th happened, the day
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: before it happened. Who had that insider information? Did you
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: ever find that out? It was noted. Not exactly. Yeah,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: so you never found out, was it another country? Was
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: it an individual? Somebody made a lot of money on that.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 25: Yeah, whoever that owner was.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Well, somebody obviously had some type of insider information that
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: something was going to happen. Well, you're seeing the same
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: thing here.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 25: Well, I'm just the guy that owned the Twin Towers.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 25: took all the gold and jewelry out of it a
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 25: week before.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so did somebody know that this was going
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: to happen ahead of time?
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 25: You failed to do one thing, and that is understand
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 25: that in the Republican Party, there still is a civil war.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 25: The rhinos have to go.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 13: No, no.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: So let me get this straight. So if you're a Republican,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: you should agree with anything the president says and vote
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: for it.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 25: If you'll let me talk, I'll squash that BS. That's
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 25: not what I said, and that's not where I'm going.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 25: I'm trying to get you to an area where you
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 25: can think about something that's a little bit clearer than that,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 25: because this man is not stupid.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 26: What is going on?
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 25: First of all, you have 91 million people in the
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 25: country of Iran that he does not want to blow
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 25: up and kill. That's why he's taking his time on this,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 25: because pretty much he knows what he's going to do
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 25: if he has to.
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  Speaker 13: But what is that?
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: He doesn't want to.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, God.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: No, what is that? I mean, if he knows what
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: he's—what have we done? I mean, I'm going to speculate
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: we're going to bomb him some more. What do you
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: think he's going to do?
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 25: You might have to bomb him some more, but you're
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 25: trying to make it so 91 million people, the most
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 25: of them, survive.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 26: You're not wanting to.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 25: Just kill 91 million people.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't think you can.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 25: He can if he wants to.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 26: We could destroy half the world.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 22: What are you talking about?
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: Well, he's not going to launch a nuclear bomb.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 25: Well, what I'm just saying is..
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: No, I'm saying to you, listen, you want to lecture me?
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: I'm asking you. Okay, he's not going to do that.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: So what do you think he's going to do? He's
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: going to bomb him some more. If he bombs him
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: some more, then are they going to agree and are
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: we going to move on?
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 25: They'll have to do something because they're going to be,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 25: their infrastructure totally destroyed if they don't. And that's the
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 25: bottom line. And you hurt those 91 million. So he's
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 25: looking for the way out to get past that.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Obviously, there hasn't been a way out at this point
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: in time, has there?
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 25: Yeah, there's a way out, but you can't do it yet.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 25: You have to exhaust all your other methods before you
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 25: allow 91 million.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: People to die. So basically, if this doesn't work out,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: what do you think? You have to drop a nuclear
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: bomb on them?
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 25: Not necessarily, but we got enough other ordinances to take
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 25: out 91 million people.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you say..
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 26: It's not..
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: I want to make sure I get it straight. So
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: you say, well, then we kill 91 million people.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 25: I'm saying you start to do whatever you have to
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 25: do before they throw in the towel like Japan had
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 25: to finally do. Even though that was nuclear, we don't
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 25: have to do that. But I'm trying to build... I'm
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 25: at your mercy, sir. But there's more to think about.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: Well, would you support that? Would you support killing 91
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: million people?
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 25: No, but I would support knocking out a lot of
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 25: that infrastructure in that country so that they can't. They
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 25: can't get it together to go down and get those
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 25: drones and go down and get that yellow cake.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: Well, why hasn't that happened with all the bombing that's happened?
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: Stand by. Stand by. Stand by. I'll get back to
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: him in a minute. Hang on.
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  Speaker 2: We dropped the bunker buster. I thought that solved everything,
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  Speaker 2: didn't you?
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  Speaker 25: No, I know it couldn't solve everything.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they told us it did. Everything's buried down in,
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  Speaker 25: And they can dig it back out slowly and surely
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  Speaker 25: if they wanted to, if there's nobody over that country.
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  Speaker 2: But they didn't dig it out.
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  Speaker 25: They haven't dug it out yet because they haven't had.
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  Speaker 26: A chance to.
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  Speaker 25: But if you mess around with the situation and don't
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  Speaker 25: stay eagle-eyed on top of them, they will do you now.
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  Speaker 2: Well, don't you think we would know it if they
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: do with our satellites?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 25: Yes, I think we absolutely would know. But the thing is,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 25: how much does it cost you to reposition after you
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  Speaker 25: turn around and go home? It's not that easy. You're
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  Speaker 25: over there now. You have to solve this thing one
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 25: way or another within the next two to three months.
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  Speaker 25: You guys are crying about two months now, three months now.
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  Speaker 25: We've been at this for three months. That is no time.
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  Speaker 25: It's not going to go anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Are you going to tell me six months from now? Well,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: it's only been six months.
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  Speaker 25: I'll join the crack wire. OK, if it takes three
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 25: more months, it's not going to take three more months.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: Why do you say that?
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 25: Because that will destroy some things here. It hasn't done
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 25: it yet, but it will.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: Well, don't you think those things are teetering here now?
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 25: I think you're being threatened now, yes. But the thing is,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 25: he still has to stop from killing 91 million people.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 25: And I've got to listen to one more thing.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's just craziness. That's craziness talking.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 25: No, it's not craziness. And you'll see my words come
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 25: to your face like it did in several.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: Other years we've talked about. I don't think you'll ever
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: see him kill 91 million people.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 25: I didn't say he would. That's what I'm telling.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 22: You he's waiting on.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: Well, what is he waiting on? What does that mean
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: he's waiting on?
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 25: I want you to hear this.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm confused.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 25: Tucker Carlson gets his money now from Qatar.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: He does not get it from the United States. I'm
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: not here to attack Tucker Carlson with, oh, he's getting
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: it here or there. All of a sudden, because Tucker
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: Carlson disagrees. Tucker Carlson was on a stage helping Trump
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  Speaker 2: get elected.
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  Speaker 25: And he changed after he changed his money.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, I see. So you think Tucker Carlson's... on the
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: payroll of somebody, and that's why he's saying what he's saying,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: then I don't think you know Tucker Carlson. I think
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: that's utter, complete bullcrap. I think Tucker Carlson has a
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: difference in opinion with him.
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  Speaker 25: Watch my words come to your face.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: All right, I'll watch him see you. You're on, not you,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: you're on the air. Hello. Yeah, hi, Ron.
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  Speaker 43: Hey, listen, I just want to update you. The claim
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 43: that Trump campaigned on releasing the Epstein files has been false.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 43: He never did. It was viral posts and opinion articles
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 43: from the left commentators that said Trump had pledged to
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 43: release the Epstein file. The president never mentioned the issue.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 43: It says, this is online, any major campaign speech, rally,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 43: or policy announcement before the 2024 election. And Chuck Schumer,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 43: after he was elected, said, oh, he hasn't... You know,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 43: he promised he would release the Epstein files, and then
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 43: it became a Democratic talking point. So you got suckered
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 43: into that. He did not campaign on it. And he
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 43: said during an interview... that he would be open to
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 43: looking at it.
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  Speaker 33: All right, here it is.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: Here it is online. Yes, Donald Trump campaigned on releasing
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: the Jeffrey Epstein files during the 2024 presidential campaign. He
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: agreed to declassify and release the documents when prompted in interviews,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: telling Fox News he would go a long... Yeah, but
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: he agreed to it.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 44: In interviews.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 17: Not in a campaign speech.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: Going a long way toward that one and standing to
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: podcast host Lex Friedman that he was inclined to make
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: them public. So he did campaign on it.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 43: But it was not in the rally.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 43: You said he campaigned on it.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: We'll be back after this.
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  Speaker 13: From ABC News.
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  Speaker 45: I'm Lindsay Davis, anchor of Prime, streaming weeknights on ABC
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  Speaker 45: News Live. Blowing up a trade administration attempt to smooth
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 45: over outrage of Republican senators today over President Trump's Justice
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  Speaker 45: Department fund set up to pay people claiming they were
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  Speaker 45: harmed by the government in the Biden years. It potentially
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 45: could include rioters from January 6th, 2021. ABC News National
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  Speaker 45: Correspondent Stephen Portnoy in Washington.
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  Speaker 46: The two-hour closed-door meeting had Republicans airing their frustrations about
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 46: the fund directly to Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch. Heading
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 46: into the huddle, North Carolina Senator Tom Tillis told reporters..
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  Speaker 2: It sends a signal, hey..
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  Speaker 27: Go breach the Capitol, destroy the building, assault police officers,
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  Speaker 27: and you may even get compensated for some day.
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  Speaker 2: That's absurd.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 46: Rather than facing efforts by Democrats to force votes on
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 46: the anti-weaponization fund, GOP leaders sent senators home for a
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 46: 10-day recess.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 45: That meeting originally was set up to support a funding
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 45: bill for immigration enforcement. A vote on a measure to
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 45: force President Trump to end the Iran war is expected
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 45: in the House today. A big test of lawmakers' willingness
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 45: to go along with a war they didn't authorize at
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 45: the White House today, the president.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 37: Right now we're negotiating, and we'll see.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 13: But we're going to get it one way or the other.
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  Speaker 2: They're not going to have a nuclear weapon.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 45: Update on California wildfires, one making the Los Angeles air
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 45: smell like a campfire. That's where ABC's Alex Stone is.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 46: Lindsay, firefighters here are making progress today, aided by improving weather,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 46: less wind, and more moisture in the air. And in
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 46: the coming days, much cooler temperatures are moving in. The
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 46: fire of main concern burning in Simi Valley. One home
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 46: was destroyed. Firefighters are having success digging fire line around it.
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  Speaker 2: Lindsay?
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  Speaker 45: A day after charges of murder and conspiracy were announced
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 45: by the Justice Department against Cuba's former president, Raul Castro,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 45: The Russian foreign ministry has issued a statement condemning it.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 45: Oil prices surged then settled back down today, still over
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 45: $ 100 a barrel. Wall Street major indexes dropped, then rallied,
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  Speaker 45: closing higher. You're listening to ABC News.
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• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: go to the law firm and let's see if maybe
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: Tally's with us tonight. You know, I always interview, I
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: always start and say, you know, is the kingmaker there
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: Dave Beatrice? Or how about, you know, Jimmy and all
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff? Or Frank? I got to start
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: putting Tally at the top of the heap here. Tally,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: are you with us tonight?
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  Speaker 5: Mr.
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  Speaker 20: Verb?
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  Speaker 2: That is not the voice of Tally. It's a voice
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: out of your past.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 19: It's a voice from your past.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: A voice from Christmas past. I'm sorry. I'm trying to
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: give Tally a little attention, okay?
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 20: Ron, this is your conscience speaking.
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  Speaker 6: I am here, Ron.
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  Speaker 16: It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Tally, could you introduce the other gentleman that was rudely
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: interrupting me, please?
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 23: You know what?
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 16: I can. Please introduce... Welcome in introducing my... Amazing mentor
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 16: for the past eight months now, Mark DeVecchio.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: Hello, Ron. Mark DeVecchio is back on the program, huh?
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 24: He is.
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  Speaker 19: I missed you.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: Really? How surprising is this? A return appearance by Mark DeVecchio.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 24: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: What have you been up to? I thought I'd heard
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: from DeVecchio on a program. I thought he was either
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: in jail or the hospital. I didn't know what was
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: going on.
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  Speaker 20: I've just kind of been biding my time, bumming around,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 20: you know, just taking things as they happen.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: Walking the beach and all that kind of stuff, thinking about.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 13: The meaning of life.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 19: Exactly, just relaxing, a little downtime, decompressing. You know how
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 19: that goes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's a long vacation, I guess, huh? Right. Well,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you Tally did an excellent job
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: while you were doing all of that kind of stuff
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: that you were doing. Welcome back to Vecchio. You're off
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: the campaign trail, so the primary's behind you. And you
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: can join us back on the radio again.
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  Speaker 19: Yes, for the time being, absolutely.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 20: We also have the talented and handsome attorney Frank Aziz.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 13: What's up, Ron?
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: Hey, there he is. I mean, you know, Frank is just,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: When I think of Frank Cassis, one word comes to mind, DeVecchio.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: One word.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 19: What's that?
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: Winner.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 24: Winning.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 13: Something like that.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: It reminds me of Charlie Sheen. When I think of Frank,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: I think winning. Remember when he was doing that?
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 19: Drinking tiger blood.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: You're drinking that tiger blood, Frank?
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 13: I'm trying. I'm trying.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: There you go. It's nice to hear Frank's voice. So
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: let's see. Who's joining us tonight then, DeVecchio? Do the
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: proper introduction. Tally's been so kind to you. Thank you.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 20: Well, we have attorney Tali Arengia and attorney Frank Cassis
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 20: here as part of the forum.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. All right. Very good. Well, welcome all. Good to
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: hear your voice again, DeVecchio. Thank you. I thought DeVecchio
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: was on the road pursuing a big singing contract somewhere,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: but apparently he was out campaigning for something. Things escape
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: me all of a sudden if I don't pay attention.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. Congratulations on your victory. Thanks, Rock.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: It was well-deserved, well-earned. All right, let's take some calls.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: What do you say? Let's see who joins us here,
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  Speaker 2: if we can start out. You're on the air on
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: The Legal Show. Hello there. Are you there, caller, on
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: the first line?
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  Speaker 22: Hello.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: Apparently not, so let me put him back on hold.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: Wait a second. I've got to make sure I do
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: these things. You're on the air. Am I on? Yeah,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: The Legal Show. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 25: You're on.
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  Speaker 16: How can we help you?
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  Speaker 14: Good.
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  Speaker 44: Yeah, I got a question for you. You know, this
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 44: is regarding my house. And I'm calling you from Summit County,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 44: by the way, okay?
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 44: And I have listened to you every Thursday from 5
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 44: to 6, and that's the reason why I called up.
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  Speaker 44: The question that I have is, my house is 20
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 44: years old, and the roof was leaking. And I got
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 44: a contract, not a contract, a roof max, who came in,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 44: inspected the roof, and and then said, you know, your
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 44: roof is a candidate for the spring technology that they have.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 44: Guess what? After they did that, we, you know, we
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 44: went through the process. And then we said, okay, go
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 44: ahead and do it, because we didn't plan to stay
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 44: in this house for more than an additional 10 years
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 44: or 15 years. So we said, you know, we had
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 44: a 15-year warranty, so we decided to get it done
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 44: through them instead of a brand-new roof, which cost about $ 25, 000.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 44: Having done that, in four months, the roof was leaking.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 44: And the guy is telling me that you had ice
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 44: dams because of the winter. And my question to him is,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 44: weren't you supposed to fix it, inspect it, fix it?
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  Speaker 44: He hasn't even issued me a report saying this is
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 44: what we found and this is what it is and nothing.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 44: And we paid them $ 9, 300. Paid them how much?
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 24: $ 9, 300. To do what? To basically inspect the roof, repair
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 24: it wherever they saw any issues, fix that portion. I mean,
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 24: basically what they should have done, Ron, is they should
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 24: have looked at it and said, hey, your house is
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 24: 20 years old.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 44: You're better off with a new roof as.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: Opposed to our technology.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: Your roof is shot at 20 years old. Absolutely. They
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: should have told you.
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  Speaker 19: If you get 20 to 25 years out of a roof,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 19: you're lucky.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: But the caller's right.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 13: Was there a contract that you signed, and was there
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 13: a warranty? And I'm sorry if you said that already.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 14: No, no.
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  Speaker 44: They issued a 15-year warranty. And that warranty did not
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 44: include ice jams. Basically, my question is, what recourse do
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 44: I have? I would like my wife and me, I'm saying,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 44: even if we do not get the $ 9, 300 back, we
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 44: would like to go after the guy and get this
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 44: taken care of in the court.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: Sue him, basically.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 20: My thought is at this point you're going to be
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 20: throwing good money at bad because there's no guarantee you're
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 20: going to get that back. He's going to say it
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 20: was a new problem. It wasn't an old problem. We
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 20: fixed the old problems, okay? If it is ice damage,
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 20: you might want to check your homeowner's insurance to find
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 20: out maybe that's.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: Ice dams. He's claiming that– and ice dams are a
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: much different thing. It's where you get that ice buildup
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: and water backs up under the shingles. Oh, okay.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 13: On the part that he repaired?
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  Speaker 44: Basically, I have no idea what he looked at in
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 44: the roof. We trusted him, and that's the mistake I made.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 44: Do you know what.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 13: Part he repaired, caller? You said that he inspected and
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 13: then repaired parts of the roof. Do you know what
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 13: parts he repaired?
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 39: No.
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  Speaker 44: He hasn't issued a report, nothing. I have asked him
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 44: multiple times, give me a report, give me a report,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 44: give me a report.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 26: Nothing.
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  Speaker 20: Well, if you're going to... pursue some type of litigation,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 20: I would hire somebody to get up on the roof
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 20: and inspect it, do an independent inspection to determine because
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 20: they could look at it and make a determination and
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 20: make an educated guess as to.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 19: Which areas were being repaired.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 47: Right.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 20: And then they could also maybe find the area where
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 20: you had the problem spot. And if they could somehow
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 20: tie the two together, saying that this was a repaired
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 20: area and Well, now that person may have some liability
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 20: or at least your warranty would kick in.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: Hang on a second, Mark. I think the key that
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: he's saying here is this guy deceived him. He has
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: a 20-year-old roof. Shingles are 20 years old, 20, 25
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: years at the most. And this guy, basically, he needed
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: his entire roof replaced. And he's claiming he could fix
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: it and do whatever he's doing and everything's going.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 33: To be fine.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 40: Well, no.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 20: The buyer, the homeowner, made the decision to go with
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 20: the new technology and not get the roof replaced. He
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 20: said himself that they weren't going to stay there much longer,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 20: so they didn't want to put $ 25, 000 into a new roof.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 20: He made the conscious decision to spend $ 9, 000 to repair
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 20: it as opposed to replace it.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 44: I was ready to get a new roof also. So
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 44: we had a couple of other people come in, and
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 44: then we saw this guy's ads on TV saying, And
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 44: we said, wow, this is a brand-new technology. Let's get
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 44: this guy in and see what he says about the
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 44: whole thing. And as soon as he came in, he
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 44: went and inspected the place. And then after inspection comes
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 44: and tells me, you are a candidate, even though he
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 44: knows it's 20 years old.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 13: So, Colin, here's what you have to do to try
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 13: to help you out and streamline it. The first thing
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 13: you need to do is you need to bring somebody
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 13: to your house that is a roofer, okay? And they
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 13: need to identify, as Mark said, They need to do
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 13: a whole inspection of the roof. They need to identify
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 13: the parts that were repaired, which they'll be able to tell.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 13: And they need to see what work was done.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: And get a quality roofer in your community, one that's
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: got a physical location, okay?
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 26: What they'll do is..
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 44: I got a Hague-certified inspector.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: Okay. And he looked at the.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 44: Roof and he said your roof was on its last legs.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 44: That's exactly what he said.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 13: But you need... It's more than just saying your roof
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 13: was on its last legs. You also have to identify
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 13: what the roof or what– the guy that you paid,
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 13: the company that you paid to do the repairs, you
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 13: need to understand what they did. If you want to
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 13: pursue litigation, it would be– Yeah. No, I'm not saying
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 13: that you shouldn't. If you want to pursue– if you
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 13: want to sue them, you have to have an understanding
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 13: of what was wrong because if you bring that to
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 13: a lawyer, a lawyer is going to say to you,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 13: Let me identify what was wrong, and then that's how
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 13: you can develop claims to sue them with. So sitting
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 13: here right now saying, well, what's my recourse? Your recourse
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 13: is filing a lawsuit against the company that did the job.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 13: But to get to the lawsuit, you need other information.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 13: You need documentation. You're going to need an expert to
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 13: testify on your behalf.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Frank, in all seriousness. I mean,
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: this is a– And I don't mean to insult the caller,
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: so don't take it that way. Most people know a
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: roof lasts 20 years. So this guy got up and
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: did a sales pitching. convinced him. We could do this
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: and he would be in good shape. I hope he
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: does sue this guy. And it sounded to me like
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: he had an inspection by a certified roofer who said
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: the roof is on its last legs, period. Well, bring
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: him in and hire an attorney and go after the guy.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 13: Yeah, and you could, but it's got to be more than...
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 13: All I'm saying is you want some more detail at
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 13: least to go after and say... Like what he did
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 13: in this spot was meaningless because he should have known
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 13: if he was a professional and his expertise that the
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 13: other sides were going to have this damage, and he
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 13: was just putting a Band-Aid on one spot when the
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 13: whole thing needed remodeled or replaced.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 19: And he violated community standards.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean– He didn't use the ordinary care that
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 20: another roofer would use.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 13: There's an industry standard that they have to follow. I
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 13: mean there's all kinds of things. It sounds like you
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 13: have a lawsuit. All I'm simply saying is you need
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 13: somebody to support what you're saying– Because no lawyer is
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 13: going to take that just based on what you're saying.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 20: You need all the paperwork from the original contract.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 44: One last question for you before I hang up. The
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 44: question that I have is, I heard you guys do
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 44: a lot of work.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 26: That's why I thought.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 44: About calling you today, Thursday, and talking to you about it.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 44: I have a lot of documentation. Actually, I have filed
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 44: a complaint with the Attorney General's office through Better Business
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 44: Bureau in Columbus. That's where the corporate office is for
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 44: this company. And they are looking at it. And so
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 44: I have given them all the documentation. I have more
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 44: than enough documentation for you guys to look at.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 13: All right, so give us a call at the office.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 13: Hold on, listen. Give us a call at the office.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 13: Say you talked to us on the radio, and we'll
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 13: get you in for an appointment as early as next week.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 25: Perfect.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 44: Thanks a lot for your time.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 19: You're welcome.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: Thanks for calling in. I mean, there's a classic case
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: of they took advantage of the guy.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 13: Yeah, he got fleeced.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 21: Right.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, this guy went up, did a sales pitch.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: I hate to say it, and a lot of people
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: aren't aware of building that. Frank, you know as well
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: as I do, a roof lasts 20, 25 years, and
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: then it's got to be replaced. And this guy went
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: up and did a sales pitch and patched a roof
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: that's breached its life expectancy. And I hope the guy
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: does soon.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 13: There was no saving that roof.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 20: At some point, though, you have an obligation to make
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 20: a sound decision. And if you're looking to cut corners
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 20: and say, well, I'd rather spend $ 9, 000 than $ 25, 000, when.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 19: You know you have a 20-year-old roof.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 20: I mean, we have a responsibility ourselves to make sure
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 20: we don't make bad decisions.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 19: That was a bad decision.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 20: Now, I'm not saying that the person that provided the
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 20: service may not be liable. He may be liable. But
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 20: there also is some personal responsibility in the decisions we make.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 20: That's all I'm talking about.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: So, right.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 13: So, I mean... What he would have to establish, too,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 13: is that's why I'm saying he needs what we would
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 13: call expert testimony, that there was a material misrepresentation that
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 13: misled him. Because if I was defending that case, one
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 13: of the things that I would do in defending it
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 13: is saying, listen, folks, he knew he needed a new roof.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 13: He had three other opinions for new roofs, but he
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 13: went with this because he wanted to– Because it was
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 13: the cheapest. No, I'm not saying that– I think the
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 13: guy should– get a remedy and should be made whole,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 13: and that's not right. I mean, it's obviously not right. Especially,
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 13: I don't understand how you have a 15-year warranty, and
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 13: you don't even know what it's on. What parts did you,
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 13: he didn't get a report, he didn't get, hey, this
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 13: is what we did.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 16: This should be a warning to other callers, too. When
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 16: you're doing something like this, make sure that you get
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 16: a report, make sure that you know what's in your contract,
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 16: so you know what you're signing prior to, so you
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 16: don't end up in a situation like this.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: Closer to the microphone, Tally, please.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 16: Oh, I'm so sorry.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 13: Reputable companies is a big thing as well.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 16: Yeah, make sure you're looking online and checking and making
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 16: sure that other people are happy with their services. We
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 16: use Google reviews here. It's very important to make sure
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 16: that you're.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: When it comes to roofers, you want somebody that's got
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: a physical location within your community, not these storm chasers
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: and that kind of stuff. But you gave them some
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: good advice, Frank, because the guy said, well, we can
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: fix it for less and everything will be just fine.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: And it was nonsense, basically.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 33: Yeah.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, total and complete nonsense.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 16: I'm so sorry that happened, caller, that crappy situation.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: Right. Frank, it's so good to have you on the program.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 13: I love talking to you, Ron.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just, it's refreshing. The other guy, you know,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: I forget the other guy.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 20: Just because the other guy doesn't say what you want
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 20: to hear doesn't mean that it's not refreshing.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to place this voice. I just think I..
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 16: I'm literally in between the both of them so thank
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 16: you very much for putting me in this situation I'm
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 16: trying not to make eye contact I thought you were
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 16: talking about the other.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: Guy no no not that guy forget that guy that
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: guy no.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 21: The other other guy the unlucky guy or you know
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 21: what I was talking about I know exactly who you're
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 21: talking about Mark the unlucky one we were at baseball
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 21: and this guy was talking about how he loved the
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 21: Ron Verb show.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 13: And Ron you know and he brought up the guy
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 13: who got ran over with his own truck And I
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 13: literally had to go back through my text messages and
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 13: rewatch it. I could watch that once a week.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: That is hysterical.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 13: And it makes me laugh so hard I cry. It
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 13: was the greatest segment ever. You cried during the segment.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 13: I mean, it was just wonderful.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: All right, let's take some more calls. With our attorneys tonight,
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: you're on the air. Welcome. Hello?
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 12: Hello?
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, go ahead, please, sir.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 5: How can we help you? Yes, my wife received a
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 5: letter recently from a lawyer. Her and her ex-husband owned
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 5: a gas station, and they sold that in 2013. And
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 5: the letter states that this loan has been paid in
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 5: full several years ago. However, the mortgage securing this loan
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 5: has not been released. And they want my wife... to
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 5: release this, call it back to release this mortgage. Now,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 5: the loan has been paid off years ago, and I'm
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 5: not sure what this letter is all about.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 13: Is it from a local bank?
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 11: It's from a lawyer.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 13: A bank that has a branch that you can physically
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 13: go to?
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 11: Lawyers in Warren. Lawyers?
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 39: A lawyer group.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 20: Well, I would definitely take the letter to another lawyer.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 20: and have a lawyer make a call for you. It
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 20: would be relatively inexpensive. It may just be a courtesy
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 20: kind of a situation where you.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 19: Could get somebody to make a call.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 20: I hate to say this, but I'm a conspiracy theorist.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 19: I believe there's a scam behind everything nowadays.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 16: He really does.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: You should hear him.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 20: Everything's a scam. So I would have a lawyer make
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 20: a phone call for me. I'd be physically present when
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 20: the lawyer called.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: Go to a lawyer.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 19: I mean, we all practice together.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 20: We all know names of reputable lawyers, reputable firms.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 19: We've all had business dealings with all of them.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 20: So I would go to somebody that could make a
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 20: call on your behalf to get some more information and
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 20: then to direct you accordingly.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 19: If it's not a scam, it may be as simple as.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 20: Executing certain paperwork, but I'd be very cautious if they're
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 20: asking for any kind of personal information.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 5: That's very good. I had a feeling about that, too.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: All right, I'll do that.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, good luck, sir.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 5: Thank you very much.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: Thank you. So it sounded like the loan was paid off,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: and it's a weird situation, isn't it? Yeah, it makes sense.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: So ever since the UFO information has been released, Mark,
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: you're a conspiracy theorist on everything, huh?
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 19: No, I was a conspiracy theorist before that.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 13: I was.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 19: I don't trust anything I read.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 20: I mean, because I get like three or four texts
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 20: a day from every place, from my church to banks
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 20: asking for money.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 13: I'm going to.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 16: Make you a tinfoil hat.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 13: It's baffling.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 16: It's way around the office.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't even know this. I'm a little bit
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: of a conspiracy guy as well, Frank. I don't know
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: if this is really Mark DiVecchio or some type of
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: AI thing that's going on.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 13: I hate that too, by the way. I'm here. He's alive, well,
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 13: and in the flesh.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Just making sure. You never can tell because
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: he was out there on that campaign trail making magic happen.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: He's still working hard.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 13: He's still working hard.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 16: He is.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: Really out there meeting all these people, meeting and greeting everybody, Mark.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 19: And Yeah, shaking hands and kissing. I'm going to an
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 19: event at 5.30.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: What do you mean 5.30? The program's on here at 5.30.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 19: I know, but the house band signed a contract to play.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: At an event. 5.30 tonight?
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: It's 5.27. Well, it starts at 6.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 21: It's okay.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 16: I'll still be here.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: Well, thank God. I mean, he's getting more like Dave
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: every minute. I'm going to be on his show, but
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: I got to go, Ron. I got something else I
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: got to do. Bite your tongue, Ron.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 19: Bite your tongue.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 16: It's interesting how every attorney in our firm ends up
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 16: like Brian or Dave.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 17: Right.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 40: Right.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: Frank, I'm counting on you. Tally, I'm counting on you.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: You guys.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 19: Yeah, Frank, we'll count on you to stay.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 13: We'll count on you to stay until six, Frank.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: Come on, buddy.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 13: My niece is graduating high school, so I've got to
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 13: go to Baccalaureate. I'm trying to hang until about 540.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 16: And then maybe Jimmy will join us.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute. I've just got to digest what I'm
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: just hearing, folks. So DeVecchio's got to leave at 530.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: So I say, Frank, at least I can depend on you.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: Frank says to me, not necessarily, I got to leave
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: at 540. You know what, Tally? Tally, you're okay. Can
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: you stick around, Tally?
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 16: I can. My son's game got pushed back. Next week
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 16: I won't be here.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 24: No, listen.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 16: Listen, I'm here most weeks, Ron, and I'm here to
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 16: answer the caller's questions and care and offer great legal
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 16: advice and assist them with their problems. So I'm still
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 16: going to be here, and I will help our listeners.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 19: No worries.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: Tally will be with us until 6 o'clock tonight when
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: these other folks bail on us.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 25: Bitch.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly right. Boy, I tell you, it's an exciting
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: day to say the least. We'll pause for the headlines
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: at 5.30. Mark, it's been great hearing your voice. I
• 1:59:02
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• 1:59:05
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  Speaker 2: She is also joined, I think, by Frank Cassis. I'm here.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: All right, Frank.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 16: He's still hanging on.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: Frank's got six more minutes before he's got to bail. Oh, Frank.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. But you're a good father and all that
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Good family man on this.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 13: If she wasn't a senior, she's my namesake, so I've
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 13: got to go.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 20: Absolutely.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, I was actually, I've got to
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 2: tell Talia a story later in the broadcast, so that's
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: something to stay tuned for, folks. Let's take some calls. No,
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: I was just thinking about it the other day. You're
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 2: on the air on The Legal Show. Hello.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 3: Hi, Ron.
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  Speaker 24: Hi.
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  Speaker 17: I have a story to tell you because I want
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 17: to know why this is happening, and maybe your legal
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 17: team there can answer this. We've noted through the years,
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 17: remember I told you about the dogs. I think I
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 17: talked to you about this a couple months ago. Okay,
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 17: we're at the Southern Park Mall. We're sitting at the
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 17: seating area right in front of the Trendy Man, and
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 17: we see two young people with a very, very odd-looking
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 17: dog walking down the way. The dog plops on its butt,
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 17: and I'm like, why is that dog plopped on its butt?
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 17: Here it pooped and peed right in front of that
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 17: Trendy Man beautiful, gorgeous men's store. And then the two
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 17: young people, I think they were late teens, early 20s,
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 17: scurried away with the dog. I went in to tell
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 17: the trendy man guy, the owner, I'm like, you know what,
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 17: somebody just lulled their dog to plop down and poop and.
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 22: Pee in front of your store.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 17: And you could tell he was very upset that that happened.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 17: We helped him get housekeeping there. And why are they
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 17: allowing in the malls, and this is the Eastwood Mall too,
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 17: why are they allowing these dogs without papers, without certification
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 17: into the mall where they're allowed to do their pooping
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 17: and peeing? This is becoming outrageous. Why is it that
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 17: they can't Stop these people. Ask for papers. I don't
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 17: care about this American disabilities crap and all that stuff
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 17: where you're not allowed to ask questions. Bull crap. It's
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 17: becoming like a zoo in these malls.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 2: You know what? I saw it the other day in
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 2: the grocery store, and I thought, why is this dog allowed?
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 2: And I agree with you. These aren't all service animals.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: Why is this dog walking around the grocery store that
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: can lift a leg and pee on anything? And why is,
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: I saw it in Home Depot. It is totally and
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: completely out of control.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 13: Well, to ask the legal team, why can't.
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 17: We, why can't the security stop these people and say, hey,
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 17: we need to see your papers, because if it's not
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 17: a service animal, it should not be allowed in the mall.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 17: It's becoming decrepit.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 42: That stunk.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 17: That Trending Man store is a gorgeous store. That place,
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 17: it stunk right.
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 25: In front of the mall, right in front of his area.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 17: I felt so sorry for him.
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: Stand by for a minute. Go ahead, Frank.
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 13: Thank you. Okay, so here's the deal. You're correct. If
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 13: it's not a service dog and they don't have paperwork,
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 13: they are not to be there. But that has to
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 13: get enforced by the mall. So the mall security needs
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 13: to start to approach these people and either they need
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 13: to present paperwork. And in my experience, if it is
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 13: a legit service dog, if it if it's legit, that
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 13: That type of thing should not be happening with the
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 13: dog going to the bathroom in the store.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 17: And it won't because those dogs are very well trained. Right, exactly.
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 17: My significant other knows all about service dogs and stuff
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 17: like that. They go through a very, very tedious training,
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 17: and they do not engage other people or other dogs.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 17: They stay with the person that they are helping and
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 17: stuff like that. This is ridiculous. You cannot go into
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 17: any mall. Now, Eastwood Mall is just as bad because
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 17: I remember two Christmases ago stepping in dog poop in
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 17: Macy's because somebody didn't pick it up.
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, that is crazy. The sad part about
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 13: it is people are afraid. to approach these people and
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 13: call them out basically you know because everything now you
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 13: approach them and then they take a video of you
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 13: and the video gets posted on social media and and
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 13: i mean if it's legit it's legit but i would
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 13: venture to say a lot of the times in those
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 13: scenarios it's not but really there's nothing you can do
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 13: besides complain to the management at either mall that you're at.
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 2: Or the store.
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 13: Yeah, the store. But just say, listen, we have to
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 13: let legitimate service animals in. We can't not. But if
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 13: it's not legitimate, we absolutely have a right to tell
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 13: them to get the dog out of here, off the property.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 13: But if they're not enforcing that or they're not checking,
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 13: that becomes the problem. So really, it just depends upon
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 13: where you're at and who's enforcing it. I mean, there
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 13: are certain places where that are really diligent and they're
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 13: all over those types of scenarios. And I think you
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 13: can figure out what people have legitimate dogs and they're
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 13: not legitimate dogs, right? But it is unfortunate. But from
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 13: our perspective, if you're saying, well, how do you rectify this?
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 13: How do you stop this? Well, it needs to be enforced.
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 16: And that is the owner's duty, but also... They have
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 16: to be careful because you're technically not allowed to ask them,
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 16: you know, what's your disability? And some officers or security
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 16: officers may not realize, you know, you can just straight
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 16: up ask for papers. But also, it's really, really easy
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 16: to register an animal as an emotional support animal online.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 16: That's different from a service dog, though.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 13: But that's different than a service dog. Emotional support is.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 17: Not the same as a service dog.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 13: Yeah, that doesn't fall under. So they don't need to
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 13: let emotional support dogs in anywhere.
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 16: They don't. But then a lot of people flip out
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 16: their cameras, like you were saying, and it gets hot
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 16: and heavy. So a lot of people are just avoiding that.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 13: Well, I think that's the bigger problem is that people
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 13: are afraid of the confrontation.
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 21: Yeah.
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 19: Well, you know what?
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 17: At Elm Road Giant Eagle, they have a sign up.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 17: No dogs, including service dogs, are allowed in the store anymore.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 17: You cannot shop with a dog in Elm Road. I
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 17: think they had a big problem a couple years ago.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 17: And PJ, PJ McCauley, their family owns it. They are
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 17: the typical old-fashioned Italian family. They don't believe in all
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 17: these dogs in stores and dogs on the couches and
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 17: eating off the table and stuff like that. and they
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 17: are enforcing it. They're not even allowing service animals in anymore.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 17: It's a sign on the door. When you go in
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 17: that store, you can be assured you're not going to
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 17: have a dog pooping on the floor.
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 16: It's a shame that people have to ruin it for
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 16: others who actually need it.
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 2: Right, but it is out of control, Tally.
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 16: It is so out of.
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 17: Control, it's ridiculous. You cannot go into the Eastwood.
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 25: Mall or the Southern Park Mall anymore without.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 17: A dog in there.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 2: You know, and I must confess, you know, when I
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 2: was a young man in college and I was extremely
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 2: drunk once, I think I might have done that in
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: front of a store myself. But remember, I was in college.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 2: I was drinking. But OK, thank you for your call.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 13: All right.
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 25: Thank you.
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 42: Bye.
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, it was only one time, Tally. Oh,
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 2: my goodness.
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 13: Thanks for sharing, Ron.
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 2: You're more than welcome. You're on here with Frank.
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 5: Are you?
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: I'm still here. Okay. You're on here with our attorneys. Hello, caller.
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 39: Is that me?
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 39: Hey, great. Hey, can anybody take? the unclaimed funds group
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 39: to small claims court?
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 13: Say that again?
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 39: The unclaimed funds in Ohio, can you take them to
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 39: small claims court to get your money?
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 2: I think you just file for it, don't you?
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 13: Yeah, right.
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 39: You know how long it takes to file for it?
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 39: I filed for it in July of last year. I'm
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 39: still waiting.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 13: You haven't heard anything?
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 5: Oh, I've heard.
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 39: They put you through so many hoops, it's unreal.
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: How much money are you talking?
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 39: About $ 1, 700. How much? $ 1, 700.
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: And you filed all the paperwork, and they're not giving
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 2: you your money?
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 39: No, uh-uh. Every time I question them or they send
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 39: me a different thing, I had to get my mother's
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 39: death certificate. That put me a month behind. I had
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 39: to file an airship thing with everybody's name on it
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 39: and date and birth date on it.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 2: Just to clarify for attorneys, so this is your mother's
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 2: unclaimed money, not necessarily yours?
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 39: No, it's my mother's, but I'm the... Executor of our will.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to clarify it.
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 13: I don't think you can file in small claims court.
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 13: I don't. I think you have to go through that process.
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 13: I don't know for sure, caller. Do you live around here?
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 18: Yes.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 13: If you want to make an appointment and come see me,
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 13: I can look into it for you. But I think
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 13: the way that you have to file is through the
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 13: application process. I'm pretty sure.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 39: I've got to... I even have the superintendent of airplane
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 39: funds speak. And I'm still not getting any satisfaction.
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 14: Out of them.
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 2: Well, keep pursuing it. What do they always say? Yeah, right.
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 13: Don't stop pursuing it. But that is unfortunate and aggravating.
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 39: Because now he's put me into an IRS form that
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 39: I can't fill out because it's too past the dates
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 39: that they want in the form.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 32: Oh, jeez.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 2: This is crazy.
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 39: It is crazy.
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry about that. I mean, obviously, you're the
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: executor of the estate or whatever, your mother's money, and
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 2: they're just making you go through all these hoops to
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 2: get it. $ 1, 700 bond dollars, yeah.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 13: Yeah, that's unfortunate.
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 2: Well, keep doing it. Have you got a CPA or
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 2: somebody to help you with the accounting forms?
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 15: No.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 39: I don't really need an accountant. I need a tax expert.
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 2: There you go. There you go.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 11: All right.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 2: Good luck.
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 14: All right.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 13: Ron, I'll see you next week, I hope.
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I certainly hope so.
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 24: I do, too.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 13: I really do. I should be here.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 13: Great to talk to you. Enjoy your weekend.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 2: Thank you. You as well.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 13: Even though with this beautiful weather.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Frank Cassis on the program on NewsRadio 570.
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 2: Thank you, and enjoy the rest of your evening as well.
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 16: Now that he's leaving, I want to hear this.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 2: Story you have to tell me. I was just thinking
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 2: about this. Somebody was telling me the other day about
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: an experience. And I don't know why I thought it was.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 2: I was just thinking about you and your background. You're
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 2: talking about they were at the Cleveland Clinic and the
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 2: doctor walked in to look at their case and behind him.
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 2: she was saying there were all of these young men
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: in their white lab coats, you know, with their names
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 2: on it that looked like they were just out of
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 2: high school, but they were all really, all real smart.
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 2: You know, they're like, the doctor walks in a group
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 2: of five, six, what would you call them? Residents walk
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 2: in behind, behind them.
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 19: Yeah.
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 2: And, or I should say the surgeon and they're all there.
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, the doctors say, well, what do
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 2: you think of this? The one and this one and
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. And it's like, you know, the,
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 2: the main doctor walks around and all these, young in residence,
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 2: follow him around all day. And I was thinking because
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 2: I thought I was going to mention that to you
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 2: because I said, did that ever thought enter your mind
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 2: when your husband, he's a surgeon, right? I mean, did
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 2: you ever think about, I was just thinking he had
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: to go through that as well. I mean, he had
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 2: to be a young guy out of school and walking
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: around following some 40-year-old guy, right?
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 16: No, he still... So during residency, yeah.
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 2: Close to the mic. Close to the mic.
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 16: I'm sorry. It was during residency, yeah, and they actually
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 16: call it pimping, where the attending goes through each resident
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 16: and quizzes them in front of the patient.
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 16: So I remember him going through that, yes, and then
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 16: when he wasn't attending, I would always yell at him,
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 16: you know, you know how you felt? Don't do it
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 16: to the residents. Um, but yeah, I do remember those days.
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 16: I remember that happening to him and him doing it
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 16: quite a bit.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 2: So now, so now he's walking around with, with young, uh,
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 2: kids and I don't want to say young men following
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 2: him around.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 40: Right.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 16: Men and women, yes. But it's actually kind of funny, Ron.
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 16: A lot of his patients, when he walks in, they're like,
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 16: where's the doctor? Because they always think he's too young
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 16: to be a surgeon. So it's a little humorous. But yeah,
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 16: a lot of the kids, or the kids, geez, the
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 16: residents do look young, yes.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 2: That's what this woman was saying to me. They look
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 2: like they're just out of high school. And I said,
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 2: but do you realize how smart all of those people are?
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 2: young people are that are there going through this.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 16: It's ridiculous what they have to... I mean, my husband
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 16: has a photographic memory, so it was probably a lot
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 16: easier for him. But it is so crazy what these
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 16: people have to go through. I mean, working 90 to
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 16: 100 hours a week as a resident, it's insane. And
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 16: I give them a lot of credit for literally saving
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 16: lives every day.
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 2: And then she was saying to me, I was just
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 2: thinking because of... You're a family scenario. And she says,
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 2: you know, these doctors, they're very early in the morning,
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 2: the surgeons, and they'll be there later in the day.
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 2: And it's like you're there constantly. I mean, not just there.
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 2: You're in your office. You're back at the hospital. And it's,
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a lot of hours. Let's put it
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 2: that way.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 16: It is a lot of hours, and it's always like
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 16: the worst times, too. But it happens a lot with
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 16: domestic relations lawyers, too, because there's always an emergency. And
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 16: so we try to be a little selfless in our
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 16: family and say, you know, he's going to go save
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 16: someone's life even though it's Thanksgiving and they're choking on
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 16: steak or whatever it is. We try to be gracious,
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 16: but domestic relations is always an emergency, too. So we're
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 16: constantly answering phone calls for our clients because their situations,
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 16: although we do hear it a lot, it's, you know,
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 16: each one is different. specific and we care about our clients.
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 16: So we want to make sure that they're taken care
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 16: of no matter what time of day and what day
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 16: holiday it is.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, because I mean, it's almost like you can't
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 2: have a bad day as a surgeon. Let's be realistic.
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 2: You can't.
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 13: You can't.
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 2: No, everyone's there for whatever that is. And you got
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 2: to be on your game constantly and make sure you
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 2: get everything done. Well, I couldn't even imagine. He'd be
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 2: an interesting guy to talk to being like an emergency
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 2: room doctor. The things that you have to see if
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 2: you're an emergency room doctor at any St. E's or
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 2: whatever around here with the auto accidents and people cutting
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 2: their thumb off or whatever.
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 26: It's a lot.
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 16: Adam has a lot of good stories and sad stories.
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 16: But doctors and their wives and their families go through
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 16: a lot. And I don't want to bore the listeners,
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 16: but one time when I see you, Ron, I'll tell
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 16: you a really cool scenario that kind of puts it
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 16: in perspective.
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 25: Yeah.
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a, she was telling that I
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 2: thought I got to tell that to tally on a
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 2: program because she lived that basically.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, you would, I mean, yeah.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 16: I mean, honestly, I had to go to my grandmother's
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 16: funeral by myself because Adam had to work and that's
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 16: just how, how it is as a wife of a doctor.
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 16: It's not all, you know, it's not all that exciting sometimes.
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 16: And same with him. He has to do a lot
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 16: of things without me because I'm helping my clients with
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 16: their emergencies and their serious situations.
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 2: So, Do you ever sit down when you're having dinner
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 2: or something and think, you know, what this guy did today,
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 2: you know, this guy did whatever this procedure was that
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 2: saved this person's life or perhaps it didn't work out
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 2: and he's got a deal, you know, he's sorting through
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 2: in his head what didn't, what could I have done
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 2: differently in that?
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 16: It's honestly, I know I can tell by his body
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 16: language when he's had a bad day, but I always
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 16: ask him, how do you tell these families if there's
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 16: a car crash and you have to go to them?
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 16: That would be the hardest part of the job. I
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 16: don't deal with deaths, and I'm very, very grateful for that.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 16: I deal with horrific stories of cheating every now and then.
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 16: We try to make humor of it because it's hard
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 16: to hear, and it's really sad to hear these repeated stories.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 2: I want to hear all those stories. Those stories you hear,
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 2: I'm all down for.
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 16: But I don't have to deal with people dying, you know,
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 16: and so it's a whole new perspective.
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 2: But well, from your standpoint, if I would ask this
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 2: to you, I mean, I would be sitting there thinking
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 2: as I would be listening to whatever one of these
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 2: two people would be talking and be thinking, wait a minute.
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 2: At some point, these two people loved each other enough.
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 2: I always say this. You know what the biggest compliment
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 2: to any man is? When you ask the girl you
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 2: love to marry you and she says yes. There is
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 2: no bigger compliment in the world than that. So when
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 2: you take a look at the situations that you see
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 2: every day and what you do, and the reality is, Talia,
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 2: so many divorce attorneys burn out from it. I think
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 2: it's got to be one of the highest burnout levels
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 2: that you can have. But the reality is..
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 15: 100%.
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 2: You have to sit there and say to yourself, this
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 2: person loved this person so much at some time that
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 2: they got married to each other. And how did it
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 2: end up in such hatred or how did it end
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 2: up like that?
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 16: And it's hard, Ron, because we sit here and like,
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 16: you know, we try to make light of situations, but
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 16: really like this, you're the worst moments in people's lives
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 16: when they come to see me in the domestic relations
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 16: department and you have to remain professional and you have
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 16: to not cry and you have to, you know, and
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 16: sometimes it's really difficult. And I carry my clients stories
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 16: home with me and I really do care about my clients.
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 16: And I make sure that we take care of them
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 16: best of their ability because it is the worst time
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 16: in their lives, whether it's a cheating scandal or, you know,
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 16: the kids are in the middle, but I always remind
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 16: my client, like, you might not always be husband and wife,
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 16: but you will always be mom and dad. And I'd
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 16: really try to support them in that endeavor because my biggest,
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 16: and Mark too, actually, it's kind of cool that we're
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 16: aligned on this. Our biggest thing is the kids and
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 16: making sure that the kids in the situation are taken
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 16: care of. And our hope always is that both parents
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 16: can be involved if they're suitable to be involved. So
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 16: we really advocate for that. And we really help our
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 16: clients through the most stressful part of their times.
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 2: And marriages break up for other reasons besides cheating. I mean,
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you see people, whether it's drug addiction or
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 2: alcohol abuse, or I'm sure there are other reasons outside
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 2: of what some would say, well, we understand this particular one,
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 2: but there's got to be other reasons too.
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 16: Oh my goodness. So many reasons. And some of them
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 16: are like legit reasons like cheating and other things. And
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 16: they're legit reasons as we just don't get along anymore.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 16: And we, this isn't best for our kids. And, you know,
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 16: at the end of the day, we respect our client's
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 16: decision and we just try to make it as easy
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 16: as possible for them. Um, and yes, a lot of
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 16: burnout can happen, especially, you know, domestic violence, sexual assault,
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 16: domestic relations, because it's the people's worst times of their lives.
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 16: Like we always say for criminal, it's, Sometimes bad people
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 16: trying to be good, but for domestics, it's mostly really
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 16: good people going through the worst time of their life.
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 16: And so crazy burnout in our field. But Mark, he
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 16: has been, I mean, I've been doing this for 10 years,
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 16: but Mark is a really, really good mentor. He really is,
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 16: and he really does care. You know, we'll make a
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 16: joke or two here and there just to get through
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 16: the day, but we care about our clients, and it's
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 16: amazing to learn from somebody who's done it for so
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 16: long and hasn't become burnout. It really is. I'm truly
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 16: grateful for him.
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 2: Right, and I think you'll make it your career as
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 2: well because I think you have those same tendencies from
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 2: the time that I've gotten to know you on the program.
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 16: It reminds me.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 2: When people say this. They say, They ask all these people,
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 2: it was either, I forget which one magazine it was in,
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 2: they were interviewing all these people that were married long
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 2: periods of time, 30, 40 years. And they ask them, well,
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 2: what's the secret to longevity in a marriage? And the
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 2: conclusion in the article was that they concluded after talking
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 2: to these people married a long time, the secret to
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 2: a successful marriage was simply being nice to each other.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 16: Was, which sometimes it's very difficult.
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 2: Well, it's as simple as that, you know, just simply being,
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 2: it is being nice and saying nice things and being positive.
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 16: I guess life do happen. I mean, they do. And sometimes,
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 16: you know, one of the highest reasons for divorce rate
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 16: is the death of a child. And those things are unavoidable.
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 16: It's not being nice or not being nice. It's, Grieving
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 16: of the loss of a person that's 50 percent of
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 16: both of you and as horrific as it is.
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 2: You would think it would make you closer together because
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 16: Sometimes it does. Sometimes it does. And other times it doesn't.
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 16: But I think that's why the burnout in our in
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 16: our job is is so high, because we do hear.
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 16: horrific stories all day long.
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  Speaker 2: One other question. I mean, I don't know if I've
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 2: ever asked you, have you had cases where they're getting
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 2: divorced and as it goes on, they change your minds
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 2: and say, you know what, we're sticking it out.
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 16: Actually I have. And sometimes it's successful and I'm so happy.
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 16: I'm never going to be an attorney to, you know,
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 16: obviously I work in a private firm and You know,
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 16: we bill our clients and all the things, but I'm
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 16: never going to be an attorney that is wanting my
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 16: clients to get a divorce. If they can work on
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 16: their marriage, that is amazing. And I will, you know, help.
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 16: I will cheer you on in the background. But if
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 16: you come to the decision, then I can help you
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 16: the other way and I can help you do it
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 16: the best and easiest way possible.
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 17: So.
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 16: But, yeah, I've had people reconcile. I've had people reconcile
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 16: and come back to me after a few years. And
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 16: I even applaud those people for trying because marriage is hard.
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 16: It's not always going to be sunshine and rainbows. And
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 16: it's a difficult process. But either way, whatever they decide,
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 16: I will always support my clients either way.
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  Speaker 2: Well, all right. You're on the air. Hello.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, hi. I might have called on the wrong day.
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 14: They might not be able to answer this. I wanted
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 14: to ask about– I put a– I put a $ 750
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 14: payment on a credit card at my bank, and they
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 14: put a five-day hold on the cash. It was a
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 14: cash payment at the teller at the bank where the
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 14: credit card was issued. And five days, six days later,
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 14: it's not been credited to my account. And they said, well,
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 14: there's a float hold on it. How do they put
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 14: a float on a hold on a cash payment?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I see what he's saying, yeah.
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  Speaker 16: When you went in, caller, did you get a receipt
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 16: for the cash payment that you put on the credit card?
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 14: Oh, I have it. Yeah, and I took it in
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 14: there and showed them, and they called customer service. They're like, oh,
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 14: there's a float on it. There's a float hold on
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 14: a cash payment on a credit card at the very
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 14: bank that I was sitting in.
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  Speaker 2: That makes no sense to me.
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 14: That makes no sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Ron. You are the man. No, it doesn't.
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 2: Does it, Tally? I mean, I could see if it
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 2: was a check.
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 14: It's insane.
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 16: Yeah, if it was a check, I would completely understand.
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 14: So would I.
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 16: For cash, that doesn't make sense.
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 14: $ 701 in cash.
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 25: And it didn't.
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 16: Show up yet. I would escalate it, honestly. I would
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 16: go into the bank and I would ask to speak
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 16: to the manager and respectfully, but also respectfully, not, you know,
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 16: you're frustrated, but respectfully be like, what in the world
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 16: is going on? This is not normal. It wasn't a,
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 16: it wasn't a check. It was cash. Here's my receipt.
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 16: And figure out what's going on. Maybe something went on
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 16: with your account. Maybe someone, did anybody try to spend
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 16: money from your, your account?
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 42: Perhaps?
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 14: No, no. And the, and it's funny because the balance,
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 14: the balance available balance is negative $ 1. So wait till
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 14: I get done with them on social media.
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 14: They won't know what hit them.
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 16: Maybe the cash that you gave, was it fraudulent? I mean,
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 16: that has happened to my family before.
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 19: They won money.
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 11: No, it was cash.
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 14: I have a receipt.
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, caller.
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 16: I don't know.
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 13: All right.
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you for your call. Thank you very much. It
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 2: is unbelievable. Tally, thank you for being with us the
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 2: whole program.
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 17: Of course, Ron.
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 16: You can count on me.
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 2: I can count on you.
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 24: All right.
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 47: From ABC News, I'm Chuck Sievertson. Something bombed today and
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 47: it had nothing to do with Iran. It was a
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 47: meeting on Capitol Hill that sources in the room tell
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 47: ABC News devolved into yelling. Republican senators telling the acting
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 47: Attorney General President Trump's Justice Department fund could cost them
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 47: the Senate majority. The fund is supposed to pay people
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 47: claiming they were harmed by the government in the Biden years.
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 47: It potentially could include rioters from January 6, 2021.
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 46: Sources say over nearly two hours, Republican senators tore into
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 46: the acting attorney general, airing their anger over his new
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 46: anti-weaponization fund. Rather than facing efforts by Democrats to force
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 46: Republicans on the record on motions to prohibit payments from
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 46: the fund, GOP leaders sent senators home for a 10-day recess.
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 46: Senate Majority Leader John Thune sounded exhausted as he told reporters, It.
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 18: Makes everything way harder than it seems.
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 11: Than it should be.
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 46: Stephen Portnoy, ABC News, Washington.
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 47: A vote on a measure to force President Trump to
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 47: end the Iran war is expected in the House today.
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 2: At the White House, the President. Right now we're negotiating,
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: and we'll see.
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 16: But either we're going to get it one way or
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 16: the other, they're not going to have a nuclear weapon.
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 47: Holiday travel update from ABC's Alex Stone in Los Angeles.
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 46: Chuck, in many areas now, the holiday weekend getaway is underway.
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 46: Delta Airlines says today is its busiest day of the
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 46: long weekend, and AAA reports 45 million Americans will be
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 46: heading out beginning today, mostly on the roads. Gas Buddy
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 46: saying the average price for regular unleaded in the U.S.
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 46: is at $ 4. 55 a gallon today. California, the highest, at $ 6.
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 2: 13 a gallon.
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 46: San Francisco, the top of that list, at $ 6. 28 a
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 46: gallon for regular unleaded.
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 26: Chuck?
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 47: ABC's Alex Stone. People have set fire to an Ebola
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 47: treatment center in one of the towns at the heart
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 47: of the outbreak in eastern Congo as fear and anger
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 47: grows over a health crisis that authorities and aid agencies
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 47: are struggling to contain. You're listening to ABC News.
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  Speaker 14: All right.
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 2: As we do on Thursdays on NewsRadio 570 WKBN, John
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 2: Arnold's back with another segment of Money Talks. You'll be
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 2: with us for 30 minutes and then we'll get to know.
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 13: Well, explain.
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 2: You'll be with us 30 minutes. Then what happens, John?
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 2: So our listeners are well aware. Where did he go? Somewhere, somehow,
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 2: we thought he would be on that phone line, but
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 2: I do not hear him. Isn't that interesting? all right
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 2: well we'll try it we'll try it we'll try it
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 2: again we should have john arnold with us momentarily our
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 2: connection obviously didn't uh didn't pan out all right so
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 2: let's let me try it right here john are you
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 2: there Hey, can you hear me? I can hear you now.
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 2: All right. There you go. Let me back up at
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 2: six or six and stay. You'll be with us for
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 2: a half an hour. And then what happens the second
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 2: half hour, just so people understand on the program we'll
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 2: have an, yeah, go ahead.
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 22: Hey, I'm bringing on, uh, I can't use the last
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 22: name forever marketing compliance versus, but bringing on one of
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 22: the chief marketing strategists along with me that makes the
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 22: investing decisions for vision 2030 fund is amazing guy. Um, Obviously,
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 22: I'll be candid. I think I'm as good as anybody
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 22: in the business, but this guy that I'm bringing on
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 22: who helps me manage the money is better than me.
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 22: He's going to be making around 60% of the investment
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 22: decisions for the fund, and I'm proud to bring him on.
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 22: His name is Steve, and he'll be coming on the
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 22: second half of the show. I'm going to let you
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 22: kind of interrogate him and let him tell a story.
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 22: Tell how you finished sixth in the nation in investing
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 22: as far as measurement goes and go from there.
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit in the beginning of the
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 2: program so people understand. You have started something that you've
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 2: always wanted to, which is, so everyone understands, your own
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 2: hedge fund. And when you talk about the Vision Fund,
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 2: I think you said the Vision 2030 Fund, it's your
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 2: own hedge fund. I want you to talk a little
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 2: bit about why you started it once again and how
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 2: you get into it, and how it's going to operate
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 2: for our listeners.
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 22: Well, when I kind of got, you know, the reins,
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 22: when I started understanding investing and money management and how
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 22: important it was, I got to be pretty good at it.
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 22: I learned technical analysis and tactical allocation, and I was
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 22: able to give, you know, potential clients and clients more
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 22: than just a hang in there or, You know, the
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 22: mark goes up, the mark goes down. Average is from 1929.
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 22: The same old BS that every financial guy gives everybody.
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 22: And there's a lot of people out there.
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 2: You were never a set it and forget it guy.
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 40: Never. Never.
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 22: Because, honestly, there's two reasons. From a greed standpoint. You know,
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 22: I started the business really young, and I was going
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 22: against guys that look like me now and.
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 39: Getting killed.
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 22: Like, who's going to give a 24-year-old guy his money,
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 22: his entire life savings? So the only thing I could
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 22: do is be different. So I learned how to manage
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 22: money on a tactical basis. So I brought someone to
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 22: the table that was different. And then the other part is,
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 22: like we talked about in the previous two decades, is
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 22: I didn't want to be that guy. I couldn't understand
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 22: why people would pay people commissions because to do something
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 22: they could do on their own at Vanguard or Fidelity.
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 22: To this day, it's complete bizarre mania to me. I
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 22: just can't understand that. And so they rely on that whole,
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 22: you know, my competition or that BSO, you know, you're
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 22: in it for the relationship. I tell people, you want
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 22: a relationship, go to the group. go to the lake club, join.
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 39: A bowling league.
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 22: If you want to make money, find a guy who
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 22: manages money and be happy with that.
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 2: But actively manages money, actively manages money over the years.
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 2: How many times have you and I talked over the
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 2: years where people would go, they'd go, they'd get an investments.
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 2: They would, here's some money. They would put it in
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 2: some fund and forget about it because it'd be out
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 2: trying to find new money. All of a sudden that
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 2: seemed to be more important than your money. And you
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 2: kind of honed your craft by actively managing people's money.
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 22: Yeah, there was a great component to that as well.
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 22: I've been in sales since, say, I was 14, you know,
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 22: when they were selling the Vindicator or memberships of Valley
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 22: Total Fitness or Accuracy, blah, blah. I just, when you're
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 22: a salesperson, you get tired of selling. So when I
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 22: got in this business, I was initially selling life insurance
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 22: and annuities and mutual funds, and that just wasn't my game.
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 22: And I was like, you know what, what I really
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 22: want to do is I want to carry the ball
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 22: into the end zone.
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 39: I want it on me.
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 22: I want to manage money. And so eventually I learned
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 22: how to manage money. So I didn't have to do
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 22: that set and forget it BS because honestly, that's not,
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 22: that's not me. I really don't care how somebody's day
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 22: is going and I don't want to send them a
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 22: Christmas card as my investment strategy. I actually want to
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 22: give them an investment strategy. I want to do something
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 22: proactive and, and put guardrails in the market in bad times.
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 22: So that was me, and that's what I learned to do.
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 22: And now that I sold the firm to Rockport, those
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 22: guys are doing a good job.
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 25: Great job, and that allowed me to open my.
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 22: Hedge fund, which has been my lifelong dream. So the
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 22: hedge funding is even more man in the arena, which
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 22: means markets go up, markets go down. Clients don't care
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 22: if markets are up or down. You have to give
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 22: them positive performance at the end of the month. So
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 22: I was trying to describe this to the people that
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 22: are getting into the fund. It's more like me as
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 22: a CEO, and they're the board of directors. And for
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 22: me to stay employed as a CEO, I have a
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 22: board of directors meeting at the end of every month,
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 22: and I have to tell them, here's the results of
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 22: the fund. Here's what we anticipate. Here's what it did.
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 22: Here's the average return. Here's the expenses. Here's the cost.
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 39: Excuse me.
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 22: Here's the assets. Here's the final return on investment for
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 22: the month, which is the NAV. And that is beautiful.
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 22: I'm only allowed 99 investors plus me, so I can
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 22: manage relationships a lot more closely. I can be me
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 22: and just absolutely just kick ass on the investments. And
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 22: I love delivering a no-excuse policy. You know, at the
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 22: end of the month, at the end of June, when
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 22: it comes down to the NAV, if we haven't performed...
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 22: It comes down on John Arnold. It's not because the
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 22: market was bad or it wasn't because I didn't take
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 22: the client golfing enough or any of the other BS
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 22: that comes with investing money. It's because I didn't perform.
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 22: And I'm willing to take that on the chin. And
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 22: I'm ready to give a client an answer.
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 26: Hey, this is..
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 22: We might not have been as well as we thought
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 22: in June, but here's my strategy for going into July,
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 22: into August, and what we see forthcoming in the future dates. And,
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 22: you know, hopefully you don't fire me in the meantime.
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 42: So..
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 22: That's why I opened up the hedge fund. It's cutting
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 22: edge in New York and Chicago. There's a billion of them,
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 22: but here in Northeast Ohio, very little. And I'm going
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 22: to put my head on the child block and carry
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 22: the ball.
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 2: Right now, there's a hundred openings. Many of them have
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 2: been taken. Give the criteria for people to get into.
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 2: This is your hedge fund managed specifically by you on
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 2: a daily and hourly basis or whatever, managed by you.
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 2: And what's the criteria for folks to get in?
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 22: Listen, you got one of three criteria to meet, one of.
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 22: You have to have a million dollars in assets outside
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 22: of your permanent residence. So if you have a business
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 22: that's evaluated or you have a bunch of rental properties
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 22: or commercial real estate, you can use that as part
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 22: of your assets. I just can't use your home. or
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 22: $ 200, 000 in income for you, or if you're going to
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 22: do a joint with rights or survivorship, $ 300, 000 in income,
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 22: or the ability to just put $ 200, 000 in at once. Now,
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 22: we kind of shy away from that because we don't
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 22: want people putting their own. There are only $ 200, 000 in that,
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 22: but that is something that we can fine line on
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 22: the regulators, but choose not to. But here's the thing.
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 22: We've been getting a lot of subscribers. But we require
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 22: the people to prove to us that they have the assets.
• 2:35:18
  Speaker 22: So we've had to turn a couple people away, unfortunately,
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 22: that said they had some sort of kind of income,
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 22: and then when they put their taxes together, not the case. So,
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 22: you know, we're not taking shortcuts. We have a system
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 22: to re-pull to where there is no shortcuts, even if
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 22: you wanted to. So it's a proof-in-the-pudding type scenario. But
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 22: you alluded to something that's great. I've got to tell you,
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 22: I never in a million years thought this was going
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 22: to be as popular as And I was going to
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 22: be as busy as I was. The subscriptions are literally
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 22: flying off the shelf. Like, we're getting probably every half
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 22: an hour a new subscriber. So we have a backup plan.
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 22: I want to tell folks that.
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 2: Why does that surprise you and it doesn't surprise me?
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 2: That's what I find odd.
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 22: Well, let's be realistic.
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's be true. I'm not surprised by that
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 22: I am.
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 41: I am.
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 22: Because when you hear the term hedge fund, you think risk, right?
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 40: And there is risk.
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 22: There's high risk. And when you're bringing that kind of
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 22: entity to our area, you know, who loves fixed annuities
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 22: and CDs and think that's a good investment, that's, you know,
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 22: I thought it was going to be a hard sell,
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 22: to be honest with you. And surprisingly, I've been... And unfortunately,
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 22: I haven't turned some people away. So, you know, it's
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 22: mind-blowing to me. I guess maybe my perception of me
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 22: being as popular as I think I am is wrong.
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 22: I'm definitely very popular, and there's definitely a following and
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 22: a brand and a culture, and I'm proud of it.
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 22: And I couldn't be happier. I really can't get the
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 22: smile off my face. I'm just so proud. I have
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 22: a backup plan. You know, this is going to be
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 22: fully subscribed here soon. So we're creating backup plans to
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 22: get people that are waiting again. So if you're listening
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 22: out there, don't worry. We have a plan.
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 20: Right.
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 2: Don't you think the reason for that is talking around
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 2: about the way you made a lot of people over
• 2:37:14
  Speaker 2: the years very happy?
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 22: I would agree with that. But, you know, you've got
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 22: to remember, I think, like I said, I can't remember
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 22: the number.
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't like to complicate things. I
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 2: would just say that that would be— my thought. Let's
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 2: just put it that way.
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 22: Well, I appreciate the compliment, but I try to be
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 22: as real as I can get on the radio. And
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 22: I thank the investors and the subscribers, which are called
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 22: the LPs, and thanks for the confidence. I had no
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 22: idea you were that confident in me, but thank you.
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 2: All right, so it's when there's... 100 people in total
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 2: in the hedge fund, 100, then that's it. And so
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 2: it can take no more at that point. But the
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 2: criteria is that you have to have a million dollars
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 2: in assets outside of your house, which a lot of
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 2: people might not apply to them. You have to have
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 2: a $ 200, 000 a year income or more, correct, from your
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 2: job or whatever.
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 9: Correct.
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 2: Or three, you can have up to $ 200, 000 that you
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 2: can put into the fund. You can put in less
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 2: than that? Explain that to us. A little confused there.
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 22: Well, here's the confusing part. If you can't show that
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 22: you make $ 200, 000 or $ 1 million in assets, but you
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 22: have the ability to put $ 200, 000 in at once, that could,
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 22: with a keyword C-word, could satisfy the regulatory industry. But
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 22: we try to shy away from that, and right now
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 22: we don't have a need to really accept that fine line,
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 22: so we're kind of turning that away. But that is
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 22: one of the criteria, but that's a fine line. I
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 22: don't like to do that. If someone can't show me
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 22: they have the income or the assets, I probably tell them,
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 22: let's hold until you do. But that is one of
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 22: the three requirements for what's called a 3C1 fund, which
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 22: is what I am.
• 2:39:09
  Speaker 2: All right, so these are requirements that aren't your requirements.
• 2:39:12
  Speaker 2: It's the requirements of what's the..
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 22: The Securities Exchange Commission.
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 2: For you to have the hedge fund. These are their
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 2: requirements to say these are the three requirements that you
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 2: have to have for the hedge fund that you have.
• 2:39:25
  Speaker 22: Correct? That's correct.
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 2: That's correct.
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 22: Now, you know, government entities with three-letter acronyms, I stay
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 22: away from them. I want out of their doghouse. So
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 22: we don't even look that way. Like, if they're even
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 22: borderline in dangers, me having to deal with a moderate regulator,
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 22: no thank you. I want nothing to do with it.
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 22: So we just keep it straight and basic and to
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 22: the point and.
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 39: Go from there.
• 2:39:47
  Speaker 2: One other question, and then I want to get to
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 2: the market activity today. When people are into the hedge fund,
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 2: let's talk about the custody of the assets as far
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 2: as how does that work? I mean, just so people understand,
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 2: it isn't– just explain that process.
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 22: Yeah, this is an important subject. This is probably one
• 2:40:10
  Speaker 22: of the most important subjects you ever talked about in
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 22: the 40 years of doing radio. And that's because custody requires...
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 22: This is where people get scammed, legitimately. Bernie Madoff ran
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 22: his scam because he was custodying his own assets. But
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 22: you only hear about Bernie Madoff because he had crazy wealth,
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 22: like billions of dollars out of Palm Beach. But what
• 2:40:32
  Speaker 22: you don't know is the people... There's people like Bernie
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 22: Madoff on a way smaller scale that are scamming clients.
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 22: And that is because they are custodying assets or having
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 22: the client custody the assets of their own personal firm,
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 22: which is something I'm allowed to do, but I won't do.
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 22: So let me take you through the chain. If you
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 22: would invest money with me in my former firm, General
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 22: Wealth Management, and I accepted a check to General Wealth Management,
• 2:40:58
  Speaker 22: I then have an obligation to show an auditor or
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 22: the client that where that check went. So it goes
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 22: in the general information business account, and then maybe we
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 22: put money into a real estate venture, a franchise, we
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 22: bought a business, or what I did, we put the
• 2:41:14
  Speaker 22: money in TD Ameritrade or Charles Schwab and bought investments.
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 22: So that's legal. You're allowed to do that. I didn't
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 22: do that. I didn't take checks made directly payable to
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 22: general information because I never at one time wanted to
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 22: custody assets. And I'll tell you the reason why in
• 2:41:32
  Speaker 22: a second, twofold. But checks were made payable to TD
• 2:41:37
  Speaker 22: Ameritrade directly or NFS, which is Fidelity, or Charles Schwab,
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 22: who ended up being our major custodian at the end,
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 22: or in after brokers, wherever. But the check was always
• 2:41:47
  Speaker 22: made payable to the custodian because I didn't want my
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 22: hands or the ability to get to their money. In
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 22: addition to that, I didn't want my staff to have
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 22: the ability to get to that money. Now, here's the
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 22: reason why, fast forward, that ended up being so important
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 22: for me, John Arnold General Management Company. It's because I
• 2:42:07
  Speaker 22: would take a lot of business off investment people around
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 22: our area, and the clients would say, well, he obviously
• 2:42:13
  Speaker 22: must be successful. He has this big house, these exotic cars,
• 2:42:16
  Speaker 22: this beautiful family. All the things that aren't important to me,
• 2:42:19
  Speaker 22: but they are important to them. So the competition would
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 22: say stupid crap like, well, he's just funding his lavish
• 2:42:27
  Speaker 22: lifestyle by taking money out of his clients' accounts. That's
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 22: literally physically impossible. That was physically impossible. And for the
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 22: desperate advisors out there that had to say that, I
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 22: feel bad for them for being so desperate and stupid.
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 22: But for the people who actually believe that, the potential clients,
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 22: I feel really bad for them because they were really dumb.
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 22: I mean, if you believe that I could just go
• 2:42:50
  Speaker 22: for decades and do that and not get caught, you're
• 2:42:52
  Speaker 22: really dumb. So fast forward. So when people have said
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 22: that and come to me and said, well, who's a
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 22: checkmate payable to Charles Schwab? Where does the rollover go
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 22: from Fidelity or wherever you're willing your money to Charles Schwab?
• 2:43:06
  Speaker 22: So how physically could I get your money if what these–
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 22: competitors are saying is true. And they would say, you're right,
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 22: and they would look stupid and be like, you know what,
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 22: that was dumb of me to even ask the question.
• 2:43:18
  Speaker 22: But it wasn't dumb of them because they were just
• 2:43:20
  Speaker 22: trying to protect themselves. Now, for the people who assume
• 2:43:24
  Speaker 22: that and just start not investing with me without asking,
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 22: that was dumb. But why I'm telling you that is
• 2:43:29
  Speaker 22: because there are investors out there, people like me, that
• 2:43:33
  Speaker 22: will take money and custody the assets in their own
• 2:43:35
  Speaker 22: personal account, And like Bernie Madoff did, will just take
• 2:43:38
  Speaker 22: that money and put it in their own personal account.
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 22: So they'll put the money into, say, Bernie Madoff Securities,
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 22: which he did. He then had an obligation to put
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 22: the money into Pershing, which is the custodian for the brokerage,
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 22: for the stocks and the bonds, to put it mildly.
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 22: And then he would then make fake statements so the
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 22: clients thought that money was still, was really in Pershing,
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 22: but meanwhile moving the money personally to his own personal account.
• 2:44:04
  Speaker 22: How in the world he got... Because you get an
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 22: audit every year, every two years.
• 2:44:09
  Speaker 39: It's mandatory.
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 22: How he got past the regulators and auditors, no one
• 2:44:12
  Speaker 22: will ever know. But my bottom line is, in teaching
• 2:44:16
  Speaker 22: the clients, when you custody assets, if you're custodying assets
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 22: with your advisor personally, you are putting yourself in major danger.
• 2:44:27
  Speaker 22: Don't do it. They're allowed to do it, but don't
• 2:44:30
  Speaker 22: do it. Make sure you custody assets with what's called
• 2:44:34
  Speaker 22: a broker-dealer, Fidelity, Charles Schwab, Interactive Brokers, Wells Fargo, Bank
• 2:44:41
  Speaker 22: of America.
• 2:44:41
  Speaker 24: Et cetera.
• 2:44:42
  Speaker 22: Those are the people that are safeguarding your money from
• 2:44:45
  Speaker 22: people like me to make sure it can't be fraud
• 2:44:47
  Speaker 22: or stolen. Every once in a while someone figures out
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 22: how to game the system.
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 13: I don't know how.
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 22: I'm not that smart, but they do. There's probably one-tenth
• 2:44:57
  Speaker 22: of 1% that can do it, but I don't know
• 2:44:59
  Speaker 22: how they're doing. But generally speaking, make sure your accounts
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 22: are held at the bank or the broker-dealer, not with
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 22: your personal financial advisor. And if they are held with
• 2:45:09
  Speaker 22: your personal financial advisor, do what a regulator makes you do.
• 2:45:12
  Speaker 22: Make sure you see the auditor statement. The auditor statement
• 2:45:15
  Speaker 22: shows where the money started and where the money ended.
• 2:45:18
  Speaker 22: So I'll give you an example, my former firm. You
• 2:45:20
  Speaker 22: put money in the general wealth management. I got to
• 2:45:23
  Speaker 22: show the author this went through to this particular escrow
• 2:45:27
  Speaker 22: bank to buy this real estate. It went through to
• 2:45:30
  Speaker 22: buy this franchise, and there's a trail, a money trail,
• 2:45:33
  Speaker 22: proving that. Needless to say, I would never do that,
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 22: and I never did that. But the key to this
• 2:45:39
  Speaker 22: program is education. And when I tell you something, educating
• 2:45:44
  Speaker 22: people on custody of assets is probably the most important
• 2:45:47
  Speaker 22: thing we have ever talked about in this program.
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. So anyway, when you get in, the money goes
• 2:45:55
  Speaker 2: through Charles Schwab or whatever into your hedge funds, correct?
• 2:46:01
  Speaker 22: Well, let me back up. The money goes, let me
• 2:46:04
  Speaker 22: tell you, from the hedge fund procedure is so much
• 2:46:06
  Speaker 22: more compliant. It's so much stricter. First of all, the
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 22: client has to go through our third-party administrator, which is Repool.
• 2:46:13
  Speaker 22: So they fill out the information, I don't. That way
• 2:46:15
  Speaker 22: there's nobody forging their information. So they do it directly.
• 2:46:19
  Speaker 22: Then it goes to the federal... I don't know, there's
• 2:46:21
  Speaker 22: an investigative department in the federal government that Ripple has
• 2:46:25
  Speaker 22: called KYC and AML, called Know Your Client, and then
• 2:46:29
  Speaker 22: called AML, which is anti-money laundering. That's to make sure
• 2:46:32
  Speaker 22: the investor is not a terrorist or a money launderer.
• 2:46:35
  Speaker 22: So I'm just making something up. I don't know if
• 2:46:37
  Speaker 22: it's true. Let's say they got FBI approval saying, hey,
• 2:46:40
  Speaker 22: the investor is not on an anti-money laundering list. He's
• 2:46:43
  Speaker 22: not on a fraud list. He's not a terrorist. So
• 2:46:47
  Speaker 22: we're going to give them permission to go to the
• 2:46:49
  Speaker 22: next step. The next step is we have Mercury Bank,
• 2:46:54
  Speaker 22: which is a ridiculously big bank that only deals in
• 2:46:57
  Speaker 22: businesses and hedge fund accounts. They wire the money directly
• 2:47:01
  Speaker 22: to Mercury Bank. Skip me altogether. Pulled by repo. Mercury
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 22: Bank then wires the money to Interactive Brokers. Interactive Brokers
• 2:47:09
  Speaker 22: is a huge custodian for hedge funds and individual investors,
• 2:47:12
  Speaker 22: and that's where the fund is. But the key denominator
• 2:47:16
  Speaker 22: here is John Arnold doesn't have access to your account numbers.
• 2:47:19
  Speaker 22: You're out. numbers, or wire. It is not facilitated for me.
• 2:47:24
  Speaker 22: If someone put a gun to my head and said, John,
• 2:47:26
  Speaker 22: give me all $ 100 million of your money in your
• 2:47:29
  Speaker 22: vision fund, I would die because I don't have access
• 2:47:32
  Speaker 22: to do it. So the key importance to the message here,
• 2:47:35
  Speaker 22: what you just said is, money's going to flow directly
• 2:47:38
  Speaker 22: from repo, third-party management, to Mercury Bank, to interactive brokers directly.
• 2:47:43
  Speaker 22: If a client wants their money back, the same procedure.
• 2:47:46
  Speaker 22: I can't get the money directly back from me. I
• 2:47:49
  Speaker 22: have to go through the administrators to do it. And
• 2:47:51
  Speaker 22: that's a security blanket, an ironclad one to make sure
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 22: the clients can't be frauded, for me anyway. So, you know,
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 22: I wanted to make that clear because there's a lot
• 2:48:00
  Speaker 22: of stupid rumor mills and stupid people out there that,
• 2:48:03
  Speaker 22: you know, they believe the nonsense or whatever, and it's
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 22: so ridiculous, but... Right there is the bottom line truth,
• 2:48:08
  Speaker 22: right from an investing 101 Bible.
• 2:48:11
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 2:48:12
  Speaker 2: Do you remember if I spin the clock back? I
• 2:48:15
  Speaker 2: think there was a time when you complimented, I think,
• 2:48:18
  Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren at the time because wasn't she one of
• 2:48:21
  Speaker 2: the key people in making, outside of this, the fiduciary requirements?
• 2:48:26
  Speaker 2: In other words, you have to operate in the client's
• 2:48:29
  Speaker 2: best interest. And you were on board with that from
• 2:48:33
  Speaker 2: the beginning.
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 22: I still am. Now, they watered it down a little
• 2:48:37
  Speaker 22: bit because it's not a mandatory thing. Again, when it
• 2:48:41
  Speaker 22: comes to things, when it comes to money, I don't
• 2:48:42
  Speaker 22: care what side of the politics you are. I'm with
• 2:48:45
  Speaker 22: for the client. That fiduciary rule was brilliant. That was
• 2:48:48
  Speaker 22: something that was honorable and I think a must. And
• 2:48:51
  Speaker 22: what that did is that forced people to go from
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 22: putting some people into commission-based stuff just because they wanted
• 2:48:57
  Speaker 22: a commission to proving to a regulator that this was
• 2:49:00
  Speaker 22: in the best interest of the client. And it forced
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 22: people to go mostly to fee-based for commissions. So that
• 2:49:04
  Speaker 22: was a beautiful thing. And I give both Barack Obama,
• 2:49:07
  Speaker 22: President Barack Obama, and Elizabeth Warren credit for that because
• 2:49:10
  Speaker 22: they initiated that and took it to the line. Now
• 2:49:13
  Speaker 22: the Supreme Court eventually rejected it. But what happened is
• 2:49:16
  Speaker 22: most investment firms, FINRA and the SEC, really put the
• 2:49:20
  Speaker 22: line in the sand saying, we're going to adhere to
• 2:49:22
  Speaker 22: the fiduciary duty regardless. And that was a good thing.
• 2:49:25
  Speaker 22: That was a great thing.
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Now, all right, so if people are interested in
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 2: getting into the hedge fund, if they meet that criteria
• 2:49:37
  Speaker 2: and they want to get into the hedge fund, how
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 2: do they go about finding, exploring it?
• 2:49:43
  Speaker 25: Okay.
• 2:49:44
  Speaker 22: Ron, I got the number. I promise. Give us a call, 330-288-7709. Again, 330- 288-7709.
• 2:49:56
  Speaker 22: That will forward to my cell phone. If that doesn't
• 2:49:59
  Speaker 22: pick up, we're eventually going to get some staff to
• 2:50:01
  Speaker 22: pick that up, but right now it doesn't make sense.
• 2:50:04
  Speaker 22: Or you can email jon.arnold at theinvestment.coach. Again, jon.arnold at theinvestment.coach.
• 2:50:15
  Speaker 21: All right.
• 2:50:16
  Speaker 22: So with that said, you can potentially become a client.
• 2:50:18
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 2:50:19
  Speaker 22: Or an LP.
• 2:50:20
  Speaker 2: Right, if you meet that criteria. What's the phone number again, John,
• 2:50:22
  Speaker 2: on that, please?
• 2:50:24
  Speaker 22: Okay.
• 2:50:28
  Speaker 39: Sorry.
• 2:50:29
  Speaker 40: 330-288-7709.
• 2:50:30
  Speaker 22: Call at any time of the day. We'll get back
• 2:50:32
  Speaker 22: to you. I look forward to hearing from you.
• 2:50:34
  Speaker 2: All right. I didn't even get to the stocks. I'm
• 2:50:37
  Speaker 2: going to run out of time here. I always am
• 2:50:40
  Speaker 2: interested in your economic standpoint on that. Maybe next week.
• 2:50:43
  Speaker 2: How's that sound for you?
• 2:50:45
  Speaker 22: Yeah, we'll go to it. Enjoy, Steve.
• 2:50:46
  Speaker 39: You're going to love it.
• 2:50:47
  Speaker 2: All right. Make sure he touches base with us. We'll
• 2:50:50
  Speaker 2: come back with Steve on segment two. Thank you, John.
• 2:50:54
  Speaker 42: All right.
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 13: Thank you.
• 2:50:55
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  Speaker 2: All right, back with segment two. This is Money Talks
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  Speaker 2: with John Arnold on NewsRadio 570 WKN. John stepped away,
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  Speaker 2: and he has brought to us, I think Steve should
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  Speaker 2: be on the end of my line, if I'm not mistaken. Steve,
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  Speaker 2: are you there?
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  Speaker 24: I am.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Steve, first of all, thanks for coming on
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  Speaker 2: the program. I appreciate you being with us. You are
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  Speaker 2: part of this hedge funds that John has put together,
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  Speaker 2: and he brags a great deal about your– vision, if
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  Speaker 2: you will. Let me, let me, yeah, there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Let me talk a little bit. You get to talk
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about the markets and your philosophies as
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  Speaker 2: far as the markets and trades and a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about your backgrounds.
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  Speaker 26: Sure.
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  Speaker 42: Well, first a bit about my background. So I've been
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  Speaker 42: active in the market since, since my, my teens, when
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  Speaker 42: I bought my first shares of stock and fell in
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  Speaker 42: love with the market and the concept of here in
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  Speaker 42: our great country, you can own a share of America's
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  Speaker 42: best companies. And how lucky are we to live in
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  Speaker 42: this country where we can partake in the success of
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  Speaker 42: the world's top companies? And to me, that's just a
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  Speaker 42: fascinating thing. concept that I absolutely love. So that's when
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  Speaker 42: I first got started in the markets, but I actually
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  Speaker 42: took a little detour because prior to starting this fund,
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  Speaker 42: I founded two software companies, both very successful, and I
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  Speaker 42: ran those for about 25 years. And so when those
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  Speaker 42: got sold off, I chose to Return to my first love.
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  Speaker 42: So that's my quick background. As far as how I
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  Speaker 42: like to approach the market is one from a standpoint
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  Speaker 42: that the market knows best. And I can do my
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  Speaker 42: personal best when I listen to what the market says
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  Speaker 42: and I follow where it tells me to go. I
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  Speaker 42: like to say that the market is a train and
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  Speaker 42: I am the caboose.
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  Speaker 2: And how do you get that vision or that insight?
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  Speaker 2: Is it just market analysis, market research, what we kind
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  Speaker 2: of heard John talk about over the years?
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  Speaker 25: Yeah.
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  Speaker 42: So the great thing is that the market tells you
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  Speaker 42: everything that you need to know. Now, there are lots
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  Speaker 42: of funds out there. As you may have heard, most
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  Speaker 42: funds fail. And the reason is because they're approaching the
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  Speaker 42: market from the standpoint that if they do the most research,
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  Speaker 42: if they have the smartest team of scientists and PhDs
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  Speaker 42: and Harvard grads and all these really smart-sounding titles and
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  Speaker 42: so forth, that they can figure out a way to
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  Speaker 42: beat the market, that they can glean something that others
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  Speaker 42: don't know. And the truth is that you simply can't.
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  Speaker 42: And that's why they tend to fail. But we take
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  Speaker 42: a different type of approach. And the way we look
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  Speaker 42: at it is that the market tells us exactly where
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  Speaker 42: we need to focus. And the way it tells us
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  Speaker 42: is that the leading stocks.
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  Speaker 5: Are rather obvious.
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  Speaker 42: And they present themselves in such... a way where they
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  Speaker 42: are recognizable. We don't need to really do a lot
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  Speaker 42: of deep research and background to find out which ones
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  Speaker 42: those are. The leading stocks in the market have substantial
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  Speaker 42: strength relative compared to the rest of the market. And
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  Speaker 42: these stocks stick out like a sore thumb. And if
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  Speaker 42: we train our focus on these stocks, we're going to
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  Speaker 42: do exceedingly well. If we think we're going to be
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  Speaker 42: able to do all sorts of research and mathematics and
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  Speaker 42: have a room full of PhDs that are going to
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  Speaker 42: somehow predict what the next great stock is or the
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  Speaker 42: next great theme is, well, you're going to fall into
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  Speaker 42: a trap that many others have fallen into, and that
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  Speaker 42: is a trap door. And so I think our approach
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  Speaker 42: is far superior to because it respects what the market
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  Speaker 42: is saying, We simply latch on to the leading stocks
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  Speaker 42: and we ride that wave. It is that simple.
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  Speaker 2: You say it's that simple, but congratulations to you, placing
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  Speaker 2: sixth in the nation for investing competition. Did you ever
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  Speaker 2: fathom that that would be the case when you go
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  Speaker 2: back to your beginnings in of your IT companies, if
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  Speaker 2: you will, and then shifting gears into this. Did you
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  Speaker 2: ever dream that, wow, that's pretty impressive?
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  Speaker 5: No, it is.
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  Speaker 42: No, absolutely not. And as of for this year, through
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  Speaker 42: the end of March, we're in second place. So we're
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  Speaker 42: moving on up. And We entered the competition because we
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  Speaker 42: knew that we could rank high because we really believe
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  Speaker 42: in our system and trust that it does work. In fact,
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  Speaker 42: that's probably the number one thing behind any system is
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  Speaker 42: that you need to believe that the system works because
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  Speaker 42: there's going to be plenty of times where the market
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  Speaker 42: is going to throw you a curveball something is going
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  Speaker 42: to come out of the blue, and it's going to
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  Speaker 42: shake your faith. And if you don't really believe in
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  Speaker 42: your system, then you're going to jump.
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  Speaker 13: Ship.
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  Speaker 2: So in the vision funds that we're talking with John about,
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  Speaker 2: you will be making 60% or more of the investing decisions?
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  Speaker 5: That is correct.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so in this vision, vision fund now do
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  Speaker 2: you look at those and do those on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 42: So the goal here is to get situated in the
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  Speaker 42: leaders of the market and then goal number two is
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  Speaker 42: to practice the second hardest skill which is to sit
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  Speaker 42: down and do nothing because the greatest thing that's going
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  Speaker 42: to prevent you from making superior gains is jumping in
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  Speaker 42: and out of stuff. And when you have a true
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  Speaker 42: leader of the market, a game-changing stock that has presented itself,
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  Speaker 42: you want to get a position, you want to tear
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  Speaker 42: into it as you add tiers, as it shows you
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  Speaker 42: a profit, and grow the position size as it moves
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  Speaker 42: in your favor. And then you want to sit. You
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  Speaker 42: want to sit and let the winners work. And I
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  Speaker 42: think that's one of the fundamental differences between what we
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  Speaker 42: do and what other funds do is that we ride
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  Speaker 42: our winners. And other funds ride their losers. They ride
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  Speaker 42: them down to zero. And the reason why... is because
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  Speaker 42: they have approached the market from the standpoint of doing
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  Speaker 42: deep research and having an opinion about what should happen.
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  Speaker 42: And rather than abandon their opinion when it proves not
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  Speaker 42: to be true, they tend to double down when they're wrong.
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  Speaker 42: For example, they might buy a stock. Let's say they're
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  Speaker 42: in love with Netflix. And they do all sorts of
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  Speaker 42: research that subscriber growth is supposed to happen and all
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  Speaker 42: these great things are supposed to happen. And so they
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  Speaker 42: get involved with Netflix. But then suddenly the price starts
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  Speaker 42: going down. But they're still convinced that their research is right.
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  Speaker 42: And now the price is even lower. So they take
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  Speaker 42: on even more shares, happily so, thinking that now they're
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  Speaker 42: acquiring them at a discount.
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  Speaker 17: And that..
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  Speaker 42: Soon, sometime in the future, the market will reward them
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  Speaker 42: for their foresight. And over time, the price keeps going down.
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  Speaker 42: And they hold on to the loser, believing that they
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  Speaker 42: are right. But meanwhile, the market is shouting that.
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  Speaker 25: They are wrong.
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  Speaker 42: And that's the absolutely incorrect way to do it. They've
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  Speaker 42: approached it from a standpoint that they know best.
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  Speaker 40: So the way we.
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  Speaker 42: See it is that the market knows best, which means
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  Speaker 42: that the market's going to present to us the leading stocks.
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  Speaker 42: And we're going to get positioned in what the market
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  Speaker 42: shows us. It's going to show us because these are
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  Speaker 42: the strongest stocks in the market. They show unrelenting strength,
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  Speaker 42: which means that when the market has a red day
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  Speaker 42: or is down big, these stocks, maybe they open now,
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  Speaker 42: they shoot right back up. when the market is going
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  Speaker 42: through turmoil because of headlines, war, oil, inflation, this or that,
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  Speaker 42: these stocks get a little bit rocked, but they bounce
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  Speaker 42: right back up. And that's the market saying to us
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  Speaker 42: that these are leading stocks. These are stocks that the
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  Speaker 42: institutions cannot get enough of, and they're unwilling to let
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  Speaker 42: go of. And that is a powerful signal. And so
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  Speaker 42: when we get positioned in one of those, and price
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  Speaker 42: starts to move in our favor, then we add to it.
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  Speaker 42: We grow the position size. Now, if we get started
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  Speaker 42: in a trade and it starts to go against us,
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  Speaker 42: we're not going to add to it. We're going to
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  Speaker 42: actually subtract. We're going to reduce that size because that's
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  Speaker 42: a signal that maybe the market has changed its mind
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  Speaker 42: or we are simply wrong. And one of the great
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  Speaker 42: things that we can do is we embrace we accept
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  Speaker 42: the fact that we can be wrong. And when the
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  Speaker 42: market tells us we are wrong, we accept that answer
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  Speaker 42: and we move on to something else. So once we
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  Speaker 42: get situated in the winners, we want to let those work.
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  Speaker 42: We want to let the market do its job. And
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  Speaker 42: these winners can go much further than people think. I
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  Speaker 42: think one of the things that investors suffer from is
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  Speaker 42: a lack of of knowledge of the history of what
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  Speaker 42: leading stocks can do. They go up much more than
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  Speaker 42: just 20% here, 50%. The average market leader can go
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  Speaker 42: up fivefold, eightfold, tenfold, if not more. So that's why
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  Speaker 42: it's important to, when you have a winner, to just
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  Speaker 42: sit your butt down and to do absolutely nothing.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Talking with Steve here tonight. Is it what
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  Speaker 2: we're experiencing right now? You're a fascinating guy. What we're
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  Speaker 2: experiencing right now, like I'm looking at the market was
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  Speaker 2: up today. Dow was up to 76. S & P
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  Speaker 2: was up 12. NASDAQ up 22. The Russell up 25.
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  Speaker 2: VIX was down just slightly. But the headline Dow rises
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  Speaker 2: more than 270 points to close at a record as
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  Speaker 2: oil prices pull back. Are these difficult times now from
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  Speaker 2: your standpoint as I listen to you? Are these some
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  Speaker 2: of the most difficult times? Because I've been watching just
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  Speaker 2: over a period of time, if I just dial back
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  Speaker 2: a ways, tariff talk. Tariffs would be on. Tariffs would
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  Speaker 2: be off. Stocks would go up. Stocks would go down.
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  Speaker 2: Just based on the uncertainty of– what's happening with tariffs now,
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  Speaker 2: the peace treaties eminent. Well, that was a month ago.
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  Speaker 2: And then it was the next week it was eminent. Well,
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  Speaker 2: then it's, then it's not. And I watch oil prices
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  Speaker 2: go up and oil prices go down. And there seems
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  Speaker 2: to me to be so much uncertainty about what's going
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  Speaker 2: on in the Middle East and the war and what's
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  Speaker 2: being said and, and, and the economy as, as a whole.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, As prices go up, just let me finish my–
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  Speaker 2: and I want to get your reactions. As prices go
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  Speaker 2: up and I'm paying more for a gallon of gas
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  Speaker 2: or I'm paying more at the grocery store, I, Joe Bagadonis,
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  Speaker 2: have less money in my pocket to spend elsewhere. You
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  Speaker 2: only got so much and you got to make cutbacks.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not a good thing with big inflation and
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  Speaker 2: with big energy prices and what we see as big volatility.
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  Speaker 2: How do you decipher all of that for me?
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  Speaker 25: Yeah.
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  Speaker 42: Those are great questions and I absolutely– Love that you
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  Speaker 42: asked that. So, first of all, markets, especially bull markets,
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  Speaker 42: climb a wall of worry. There's always going to be
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  Speaker 42: something to worry about. There's always going to be a
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  Speaker 42: bear case. There's going to be some distraction happening. There's
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  Speaker 42: always something to latch onto to say, this could blow
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  Speaker 42: up and be very, very bad. And that's always going
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  Speaker 42: to be the case. It's never going to be easy
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  Speaker 42: street where all the news is good and everything is,
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  Speaker 42: you know, happy town. It doesn't work that way. There's
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  Speaker 42: always something to give hesitation to cause pause to say, well,
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  Speaker 42: because of this, this, and this, and this, you know,
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  Speaker 42: things aren't that good. And if you look around and
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  Speaker 42: you look at the state of things where way are, employment, prices,
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  Speaker 42: the economy, oil, it's a bad picture. There's no doubt.
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  Speaker 42: There's no doubt that is a concerning picture. However, however,
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  Speaker 42: that those things are distractions in a sense, because the
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  Speaker 42: market already knows all of those things. It knows more
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  Speaker 42: than you and I could ever read, information we could
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  Speaker 42: ever consume. And so when we accept the fact that
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  Speaker 42: the market knows all and sees all, the market also
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  Speaker 42: is a future-looking device. It not only looks at today,
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  Speaker 42: but it looks at what life will be like 12
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  Speaker 42: to 18 months from now. And I think when we
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  Speaker 42: look at it from that lens, that it helps to
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  Speaker 42: make things a bit more clear, because it can be
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  Speaker 42: kind of hard to get our head around, well, with
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  Speaker 42: all this bad news, why is the market at highs?
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  Speaker 42: With oil ripping, why are stocks on a whole doing well?
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  Speaker 42: It doesn't make sense, and therefore our inclination is to say, well...
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  Speaker 42: Maybe it's not a good time to get invested in
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  Speaker 42: the market. Maybe the market.
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  Speaker 5: Has it wrong.
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  Speaker 42: Maybe this is like this must be a trap. You know,
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  Speaker 42: this must be a trap because with all this bad stuff,
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  Speaker 42: you know, all this things happening within the macro world,
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  Speaker 42: you know, in the market that high, that's a trap. Therefore,
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  Speaker 42: I'm going to sit this one out. And that's the
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  Speaker 42: wrong point of view. And the reason why is because
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  Speaker 42: the market is a future-looking mechanism, which means that it
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  Speaker 42: doesn't care about what's happening right now. We all know
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  Speaker 42: what's happening right now. What's important is looking into the future,
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  Speaker 42: what's happening 12 to 18 months from now. And investors
• 3:09:01
  Speaker 42: are getting situated for what is to come, not what
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  Speaker 42: is or what has happened. So it's looking into the
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  Speaker 42: future now. And so when we remove today's news and say, okay, well,
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  Speaker 42: the market is strong because the world 12 to 18
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  Speaker 42: months from now is a different one. And that's the
• 3:09:22
  Speaker 42: one investors are buying into right now.
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  Speaker 2: So that far ahead, just as I'm listening here, you're
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  Speaker 2: saying 12 to 18. 18 months. But yet, okay, just
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  Speaker 2: bear with me for one second. But yet I see
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  Speaker 2: almost a daily volatility, though, that isn't 18 months out.
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  Speaker 2: It's oil prices are up, oil prices are down, market's up,
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  Speaker 2: market down on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 41: Yes.
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  Speaker 42: And that stuff, now, here's the kicker, all right? Now,
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  Speaker 42: When we're talking about leading stocks, I mean the stocks
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  Speaker 42: that are literally leading the market forward, these stocks don't
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  Speaker 42: care about those things. And we look at how news
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  Speaker 42: affects things. We look, you know, news about the war, oil,
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  Speaker 42: whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: Consumer confidence. I always use that one because we're a
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  Speaker 2: consumer-driven economy. I mean, everybody says, you know, if we
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  Speaker 2: don't have the money or consumers draw back, it's not good.
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  Speaker 42: That doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because, again, stocks look
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  Speaker 42: into the future. And so it's looking into the world
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  Speaker 42: 12 to 18 months from now.
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  Speaker 40: So if there.
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  Speaker 42: Are stocks that are doing well right now, let's say
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  Speaker 42: retail stocks, like travel stocks, if they're doing well, it's
• 3:10:46
  Speaker 42: because they're saying that the consumer is going to be
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  Speaker 42: stronger in the future. We all know what's happening right
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  Speaker 42: now and what has happened. What has happened with the
• 3:10:54
  Speaker 42: stock market is cares more about the future than it
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  Speaker 42: does right now. Now, back to the point about things
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  Speaker 42: being volatile. This is actually a wonderful time because the
• 3:11:05
  Speaker 42: reason why is because in a volatile market, the leaders
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  Speaker 42: stand out like a sore thumb. They show incredible strength
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  Speaker 42: to what is going on. And the bad news does
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  Speaker 42: not affect them like your average stock. And so it
• 3:11:22
  Speaker 42: helps us to point us in the direction of what
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  Speaker 42: are these leading stocks. There are going to be stocks
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  Speaker 42: like Intel, Marvel, NVIDIA. There are going to be stocks
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  Speaker 42: like we're talking like NBIS. NBIS stocks are..
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  Speaker 2: In the technology sector, a lot of them?
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  Speaker 42: Yeah, the tech sector.
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  Speaker 2: I want to throw you a curve question as you
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  Speaker 2: talk about that. All right, so as you're talking about
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  Speaker 2: that and looking to the future, a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: and I want you to continue to talk about those,
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  Speaker 2: but a lot of people are concerned of the future
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  Speaker 2: when they talk about AI. The future ahead. And when
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  Speaker 2: I say the future, within now to three years where
• 3:12:08
  Speaker 2: they're saying, we could lose 50% of our white-collar jobs. Well,
• 3:12:11
  Speaker 2: that's a lot of people losing work. Or Facebook got
• 3:12:14
  Speaker 2: 10,000 people, replaced them with AI. What's the reaction to
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  Speaker 2: that future? You thought it'd be easier tonight, Steve.
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  Speaker 42: Well, I'm going to share with you my opinion.
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  Speaker 39: Okay.
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  Speaker 42: Which is worth about two cents.
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  Speaker 24: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 2: I'm interested in it.
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  Speaker 15: Yes.
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  Speaker 40: Okay.
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  Speaker 42: So my personal point of view is that every time
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  Speaker 42: we've had a technological change, we've had the same set
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  Speaker 42: of concerns. Like when, you know, with the car, what's
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  Speaker 42: going to happen to the horse and buggy drivers? Or
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  Speaker 42: let's say when we had electricity or railroads, you know,
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  Speaker 42: every technological change has come with upheaval. But the truth
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  Speaker 42: is that as we move into each iteration, the change
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  Speaker 42: happens faster. So it is the opportunity for more disruption
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  Speaker 42: to happen. Now, I don't personally know what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 42: Could it be very disruptive for jobs?
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 42: Absolutely. Could it also mean that we become immensely more productive? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 42: So at the end of the day, it doesn't really
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  Speaker 42: matter what my opinion is because opinions don't make us
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  Speaker 42: money in the market. The only thing that can stand
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  Speaker 42: the chance of making us a substantial sum is getting
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  Speaker 42: involved with leading stocks and let them work.
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  Speaker 25: You know, there's... There are.
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  Speaker 42: Millions of investors out there. There's many, many, many large
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  Speaker 42: institutions and think tanks. They have hundreds of thousands of
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  Speaker 42: very smart people who are much smarter than me who
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  Speaker 42: are researching this and figuring this stuff out and getting
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  Speaker 42: positioned in the stocks that are going to change the world.
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  Speaker 42: And I want to be involved in those stocks regardless
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  Speaker 42: of how I might feel about regardless of what my
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  Speaker 42: opinion might be.
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  Speaker 2: Gotcha. And if I talked a sector, if I can,
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  Speaker 2: then a lot of that would be in the technology
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  Speaker 2: sector because that seems to be what's on fire right now.
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  Speaker 14: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And those stocks wouldn't be driven. They wouldn't care what
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  Speaker 2: oil prices are one way or the other.
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  Speaker 14: No.
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  Speaker 42: No, they certainly don't care because... they're looking into the
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  Speaker 42: future and seeing a very different world. These stocks and
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  Speaker 42: these companies are producing significant enhancements that are going to
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  Speaker 42: transform society in ways that we cannot even grasp yet.
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  Speaker 11: Right.
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  Speaker 42: And I want to be along for that ride. And
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  Speaker 42: that means setting aside whatever macro troubles might be going on. Um,
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  Speaker 42: As long as these stocks are showing relative strength to
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  Speaker 42: what is happening and are being resilient, you know, and
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  Speaker 42: showing us that when bad news happens, these stocks bounce
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  Speaker 42: right back. And that's the type of behavior that tells
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  Speaker 42: us that there's something special going on here. We don't
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  Speaker 42: need a room full of scientists and PhDs to figure
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  Speaker 42: that out. The market tells us everything that we need
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  Speaker 42: to know. We just need to accept it. and get
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  Speaker 42: positioned and let things work.
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  Speaker 2: But there is some degree of judgment to say, should
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  Speaker 2: we buy into this particular stock right now, which might
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  Speaker 2: be a very high price, or do we wait for
• 3:16:08
  Speaker 2: it to go down? And there is a thing called
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  Speaker 2: when's the right time to buy, is there not?
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  Speaker 42: Well, that is true. That is true. But, however, the
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  Speaker 42: common misconception of when that right time is is that
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  Speaker 42: we need to wait for prices to come on down.
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  Speaker 42: And that is correct in some ways. It's best to
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  Speaker 42: wait to get in at a low risk point. But
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  Speaker 42: the thing about it is that these stocks are so strong,
• 3:16:40
  Speaker 42: they're not going to make it easy to get in.
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  Speaker 42: And these stocks often look expensive compared.
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  Speaker 40: To everything else.
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  Speaker 14: Why?
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  Speaker 42: Because they trade near highs. And yeah, I want to
• 3:16:50
  Speaker 42: buy a stock that's making highs. Why would I want
• 3:16:53
  Speaker 42: to buy a stock that's making lows? I want to
• 3:16:56
  Speaker 42: be on something going to the moon. And to go
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  Speaker 42: to the moon, you need to make highs.
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  Speaker 14: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to run out of time here. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to have you on again. Steve is with John's hedge
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  Speaker 2: funds and will be actively involved in a lot of
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  Speaker 2: what goes on in that hedge fund. You are a
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  Speaker 2: fascinating man, and I look forward to talking to you
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  Speaker 2: more in the future.
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  Speaker 40: Looking forward to it, too.
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  Speaker 2: It was a fast half hour. Thank you, Steve. Appreciate
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  Speaker 2: your time.
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  Speaker 42: You're very welcome.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 3:17:32
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  Speaker 48: The Vatican says thou shalt not pretend to be a
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  Speaker 52: On the crowded streets of Rome, especially near the Vatican,
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  Speaker 52: the smiling face of a very hot priest looks out
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  Speaker 52: from a souvenir stand advertising a 2027 calendar featuring him
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  Speaker 52: cover model Giovanni Galizia and most of those inside are
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  Speaker 52: Galizia is now a 39-year-old flight attendant who says he
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