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The Most Underrated Christian Bands Fantasy Draft · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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  Speaker 1: Today, we've got our good friends Jeremy from the Rumors
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  Speaker 1: Are True podcasts, Joe Who Joe, you'll be able to
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  Speaker 1: introduce yourself in the second of the new project, the
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  Speaker 1: new metal project you got, and then JJ for the
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  Speaker 1: millionth time. He's been on this show so many times
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  Speaker 1: and we love him, drummer for Idle Threat. I'll have
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  Speaker 1: each one of these guys introduce themselves, say hi in
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  Speaker 1: just a second, but excited to chat with you guys.
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  Speaker 1: I'll explain what we're gonna do in this episode here
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  Speaker 1: for you listeners just in a second. But before we
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  Speaker 1: do that, let's, uh, let's have you guys introduce yourself.
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  Speaker 1: So Jeremy, I mean, obviously everyone knows that your rumors
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  Speaker 1: are true, the guy behind the mic. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you have anything else you want to say, but yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you say hi.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it. Love all
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  Speaker 2: you guys on here.
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  Speaker 3: It's really cool to link up and the talk tunes
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  Speaker 3: and music and bands. So I'm really honored, Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Excited for you as well. So, Joe, What's what's going
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  Speaker 1: on in the life of Joe Calderone these days?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: No, just.
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  Speaker 6: Moved to another city in California. That's been pretty cool. Otherwise, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: vocalists of Light Worker.
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  Speaker 4: In a new band's coming out later this year.
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  Speaker 1: Details will emerge nice justin Jones obviously, the new album
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  Speaker 1: is out. It's out. It's incredible. Vinyl is getting shipped now.
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  Speaker 1: I just saw that the other day. So what's new
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  Speaker 1: in the life of JJ.
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  Speaker 5: Man. I'm just working stiff.
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  Speaker 7: But you know, we did that shortening tour with the
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  Speaker 7: Undertaking guys and yeah, anyway, so yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just I'm back on.
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  Speaker 8: We just played a show with Mayleen right four the
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  Speaker 8: fourth of July, and yeah, that was one of my
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  Speaker 8: favorite shows I think we've ever played.
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  Speaker 5: It was like insane.
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  Speaker 8: But yeah, like I don't know, Like, like I said,
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  Speaker 8: I'm just kind of working stiff now and kind of
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  Speaker 8: waiting until the end of the year and then threats
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  Speaker 8: to do it a little more shows and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 5: So I'll talk more about that later, I guess. But
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: I just had a niece like here at my sister's
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  Speaker 8: house right now actually, so I get to hang out.
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  Speaker 5: As a little baby. That's been pretty cool. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: I'm just I've been catching up on all these new
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  Speaker 8: records up this year. And you know, I had to
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  Speaker 8: do a little bit of homework today for this, but
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  Speaker 8: we'll kind of see how prepared.
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  Speaker 5: I am once rolling.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, so for today's episode, we are gonna do
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  Speaker 1: a fantasy draft of underrated Christian bands. Okay, so few
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  Speaker 1: stipulations on this one is, uh, these have to be
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  Speaker 1: underrated Christian bands, not like not We're not saying, oh,
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  Speaker 1: they were a Christian band and they were like underrated
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  Speaker 1: just generally in the music scene. That is true for
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  Speaker 1: probably all of these bands, but also more specifically, these
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  Speaker 1: are bands that we're saying are like criminally underrated specifically
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  Speaker 1: within Christian music. Okay, so these are like the kind
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  Speaker 1: of bands where because they're like even underrated in christ
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  Speaker 1: the Christian music scene, that you know, they're probably gonna
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  Speaker 1: have low Spotify numbers, they probably had low album sales,
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  Speaker 1: they might not haven't even been around for very long.
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  Speaker 1: But we still think are just very very very good bands.
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  Speaker 1: And so uh, and we're also are gonna break this
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  Speaker 1: down between different genres. So we're gonna try to get
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  Speaker 1: as you know, as many different kinds of Christian bands
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  Speaker 1: as we possibly can so we're gonna have an indie genre.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna have a punk slash emo genre, so it
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  Speaker 1: could be like a more punk band or a more
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  Speaker 1: emo band, but they're gonna be kind of grouped together.
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  Speaker 1: And then we're gonna have a hardcore slash uh metal genre,
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  Speaker 1: so any sort of metal, metalcore, hardcore, Uh, any bands
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  Speaker 1: that kind of fit in that that category. So we'll
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  Speaker 1: have three different categories that we're gonna be picking from,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, we'll see what which one of us picks
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  Speaker 1: the best team of bands at the end of the day. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and we can we can debate on who is picking
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  Speaker 1: the best band. So uh So obviously a part of
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  Speaker 1: this episode means that, you know, because we're trying to
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  Speaker 1: compete with each other. Uh, we're gonna try to make
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  Speaker 1: our argument for why this band is not only underrated, uh,
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  Speaker 1: but why uh when we you know, collectively have our
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  Speaker 1: teams together, why our team is the best. So hopefully
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  Speaker 1: we're we're uh, we're sparring with one another a little
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  Speaker 1: bit in you know, playful fun jest. So so we've
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  Speaker 1: got our our rounds picked out, or we've got our
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  Speaker 1: rounds picked out in terms of you know, who's the
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  Speaker 1: draft over the order will be. So the way we'll
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  Speaker 1: do it is, each one of us gets to pick
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  Speaker 1: what what genre we want to pick from in that round.
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  Speaker 1: So we just have like a round one, a round two,
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  Speaker 1: and a round three, and then we'll pick whatever genre
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  Speaker 1: we want to pick, and then we pick from that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we can pick a band in that category.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not like we're gonna we're going to have
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  Speaker 1: an indie round and then we're gonna have a punk
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  Speaker 1: slash emo round and then a hardcore metal round. We
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  Speaker 1: get to pick what what we're gonna pick for each round.
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  Speaker 1: So with that said, weirdly enough, I ended up being
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  Speaker 1: the first pick, so we'll do a snake draft kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing. So I'll be first picking this first round,
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  Speaker 1: then I'll be the last pick in the second round,
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  Speaker 1: and then I'll be first pick again in the third round.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, we've got these three rounds. I'm excited. It
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  Speaker 1: will be a way to sort of deep dive into
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  Speaker 1: I think some really underappreciated artists in the Christian music
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  Speaker 1: industry that we all know and love. So there's are
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  Speaker 1: they're already I can already think of like just a
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  Speaker 1: ton of bands that are not gonna get picked that
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  Speaker 1: I'm just really disappointed that aren't gonna get picked. So
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  Speaker 1: I'll go first. I don't really know where to go
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  Speaker 1: with this, but I think I'm gonna go with punk
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  Speaker 1: slash emo because I think this is a band that
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  Speaker 1: could get picked, and I want to, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: I'm first, the first pick. I want to get them.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go the punk emo route. And the
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  Speaker 1: band I'm going to pick is truly one of my
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  Speaker 1: favorite bands that I grew up with, and it's again,
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  Speaker 1: it's a band. I bet they're probably less than like
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  Speaker 1: ten thousand monthly listeners on Spotify. I think they were
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  Speaker 1: very underappreciated kind of in their heyday. I'm not aware
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  Speaker 1: of them like ever. Really, I don't think they ever
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  Speaker 1: charted on the Billboard at any point. They were signed
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  Speaker 1: to Tooth and Nail for like maybe three albums something
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  Speaker 1: like that, but highly underappreciated. Honestly, Like I like JJ,
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  Speaker 1: I know you're a huge Jimmy World fan. I think
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  Speaker 1: probably all of us are Jimmy World fans. I honestly
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  Speaker 1: think like they write just as good as songs as
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy World, maybe not quite as good. Maybe that might
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  Speaker 1: be a little overstatement, but they're like they're up there,
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  Speaker 1: like I think they're like in the Jim Atkins kind
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  Speaker 1: of realm of songwriting, Like they're just really good, good songwriters.
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  Speaker 1: And so the band I'm gonna pick is Number one Gun.
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  Speaker 1: I just think they were criminally underrated in that emo world.
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  Speaker 1: So I know it's a little bit more emo than punk,
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  Speaker 1: but I just such a good band, such a good band.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, Number one Gun. Any thought, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you all have any stories or anything anything to
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  Speaker 1: say about Number one Gun.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're a really great band. I think it's
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  Speaker 3: a good pick.
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  Speaker 2: They were one of those.
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  Speaker 3: Bands I never was a super super into, but I
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  Speaker 3: think the later I've gotten and the more I've heard them,
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  Speaker 3: like I'll put a play list on or something and
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  Speaker 3: that they come on and I'm always like looking like
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  Speaker 3: who is this? And then I'm like, this is such
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  Speaker 3: a sick song? Like the production is it Aaron Sprinkle?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it just sounds like Aaron Sprinkle production.
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  Speaker 1: It does? It does have Aaron Sprinkle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they just they're slick, they sound great,
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  Speaker 3: the songs are incredible. Yeah, super underrated. I yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: definitely would back that for sure.
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  Speaker 6: Remember, I don't know you're good, I think, if I'm
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  Speaker 6: not mistaken. The vocalist was also a producer for a
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  Speaker 6: while as well.
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  Speaker 1: What makes sense. Yeah it's Jeff And I forget how
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  Speaker 1: it's to say his last.
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  Speaker 4: Name Likenweiss or something like that, like something. Yeah, yes,
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  Speaker 4: so yeah he because Yeah, I think he did do.
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  Speaker 6: A handful of bands, worked with a handful of bands
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  Speaker 6: that I liked that that only released one album on
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  Speaker 6: Solid State and disappeared. Yeah, I he did some production work,
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  Speaker 6: but I think at that point I was probably just
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  Speaker 6: like a snobby, like you know, heavy music listening kids,
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  Speaker 6: So not super familiar with Number one Gun, but I
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  Speaker 6: definitely know of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. The songwriting I just think is like because like
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really grow up with JIMMYT. World, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean obviously I knew some of the bigger hits,
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  Speaker 1: but didn't really like grow up listening to them. That
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  Speaker 1: they were a band that I got later on in life,
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  Speaker 1: but as I like started exactly exactly, and they were
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  Speaker 1: a band that like, as I got, like JIMMYT World
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  Speaker 1: like because they actually came along later in my life.
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  Speaker 1: My comparison to them was Number one Gun. But like,
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  Speaker 1: obviously knowing that Jimmy att World just historically came before
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  Speaker 1: Number one Gun, I like realized, like, oh, number one
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  Speaker 1: Gun was basically like tooth and Nails answer to Jimmy World.
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  Speaker 1: And there's so many times where you were like, that
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  Speaker 1: sounds like a Jimmy World song, and yeah, it's just
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  Speaker 1: like but the reason why we think that they would
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  Speaker 1: sound like Jimmy World is because I think Jeff is
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  Speaker 1: a really good songwriter and he like knows how to
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  Speaker 1: make that sound and he sounds like jim Atkins, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just think they truly like were not on the
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  Speaker 1: same level as Jimmy World. I do think Jimmyett World.
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  Speaker 1: There's clearly a reason why they are Jimmy World. But
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  Speaker 1: I think they were like starting to enter into that
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  Speaker 1: orbit of of being in that Jimmy World kind of
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  Speaker 1: sound and category. The problem is they just, for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 1: they just like never really broke through in the way
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  Speaker 1: that jimmytt World did. Like they like they were right
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  Speaker 1: there at the time that like any of that music
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  Speaker 1: was popular, So it's like they were creating the kind
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  Speaker 1: of music that would have been popular for that time,
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  Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, they just like weren't the band
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  Speaker 1: that broke through for it, So I never really understood it.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think they're criminally underrated as an
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  Speaker 1: emo band. So I'm going number one, gun.
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  Speaker 2: Right on the selection, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I think number two is Joe So what uh?
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  Speaker 1: First off, what genre you picking? And then what band
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  Speaker 1: are you gonna pick from that gender?
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to go with indie also, and my pick
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  Speaker 6: is going to be Jonzetta.
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  Speaker 1: Oh and you're thinking Jonesetta as an indie band?
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  Speaker 9: Interesting, Okay, So I think that's I mean, there are
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  Speaker 9: pop rock, pop rock kind of indie band at least
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  Speaker 9: for like I mean, if if you guys want to
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  Speaker 9: push back, go ahead, But I do think that they were.
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  Speaker 6: I think through the course of their career they just
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  Speaker 6: touched on a lot of different kinds of genres within
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  Speaker 6: like I guess that world, you know, because the first
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  Speaker 6: record was much more dancy and kind of like would
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  Speaker 6: fit very well with you know, at the time, what
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  Speaker 6: the Killers were doing.
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  Speaker 1: I've never I've never made that comparison, but that's a
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  Speaker 1: great rates like comparison for sure.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and and you know, and a lot of people
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  Speaker 6: considered the killers of an indie ish band, you know,
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  Speaker 6: so like on the poppier side. I mean, they could
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  Speaker 6: have easily toured with like three oh three, I don't
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  Speaker 6: remember that, like scene band or whatever they could have,
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  Speaker 6: but and they toured with Mute Math, you know, so
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  Speaker 6: that they they yeah, were just across uh you know,
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  Speaker 6: the like scheme of things. I think that they were
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  Speaker 6: just brilliant and they were really fun live too. The
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  Speaker 6: vocalist had a unique set of pipes and he Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: it's just a lot of fun live and then the
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  Speaker 6: second record will be young like you know, they touched
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  Speaker 6: a little bit more on that, folks see kind of
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  Speaker 6: like I guess, you know, not as much as the
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  Speaker 6: dance stuff. And then obviously we haven't really heard anything
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  Speaker 6: new since. But yeah, I think that's a band that
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  Speaker 6: was that definitely could have been huge, and unfortunately that
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  Speaker 6: it didn't happened to him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great pic Ujoe. One thing I'll add
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  Speaker 1: to that is I thought also thought about Jones Atta
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  Speaker 1: and I also like I think I questioned maybe they're
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  Speaker 1: like or should they be in the indie category. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: even on Spotify, the first genre that they're listed as
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  Speaker 1: is indie rock, So you're you're safe there, I would say.
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  Speaker 1: But I do remember several years ago listening to I
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  Speaker 1: think it was the Labeled podcast and Brandon Evil was
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  Speaker 1: getting interviewed about something, and I think there was a
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  Speaker 1: conversation that came up about, like, what's a band that
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  Speaker 1: was on the label that like just especially at that time,
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  Speaker 1: like that just didn't break out, like especially in the
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  Speaker 1: heyday of Tooth and Nail, you know, in those like
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  Speaker 1: mid two thousands, Like why what was a band that
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  Speaker 1: like didn't break out that you really were convinced were
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  Speaker 1: or were going to And I think like a immediately
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  Speaker 1: he said Jones Ada, Like it seemed like the label
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  Speaker 1: really backed that band, like they put a lot of
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  Speaker 1: money into into them, and they they had everything going
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  Speaker 1: for them, Like I mean I think that like the
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  Speaker 1: music video was great. They're like you said, like their
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  Speaker 1: performances were really great. They were like on the right
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  Speaker 1: tours and for whatever reason, something just didn't happen where
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  Speaker 1: it just didn't pop off from the way you thought
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  Speaker 1: it would. And also the label really didn't think that
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  Speaker 1: they popped off in the way that you know, they
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  Speaker 1: really had a lot of hopes that they could become
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  Speaker 1: that next massive band for the label. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think you're absolutely spot on in the fact that they
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  Speaker 1: are super underappreciated, super underrated, and they just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they just didn't get as big as what everybody else
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  Speaker 1: thought they would.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I would agree. I think they were
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  Speaker 3: sorely underrated, and the fact that they didn't blow up
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  Speaker 3: in the Christian world, I mean, just even overall, is
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  Speaker 3: insane to me. I think they're unbelievable band that should
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: sold millions of records for sure, and I love how
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: both are completely different, but they're both completely incredible in
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  Speaker 3: their own right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I had Tie on the podcast before. He's incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Man, the guys an unbelievable, you know person and just
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  Speaker 3: getting to know him and just hear the stories when
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: when he was on it was just insane to me.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, Tooth and Nail did put a ton
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  Speaker 2: of money into them.
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  Speaker 3: It was like the biggest they'd ever done, and the
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  Speaker 3: return on it wasn't great. But man, those records, I
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  Speaker 3: think a lot of people love them more.
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  Speaker 2: It's weird.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're bigger now than they were then, which
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  Speaker 3: is crazy because people, Yeah, people like freak out about them.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like they do at least. Yeah, incredible band,
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  Speaker 3: good choice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious. I think like a good way to
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  Speaker 1: see if like a band really like truly like made
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  Speaker 1: its mark, especially in that Tooth and Nail world. And
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I think Fernasvess was a really great case study on this.
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  Speaker 1: Are the bands that like after maybe fifteen twenty years
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, that they haven't done anything bringing them back.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was always a really great case study
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  Speaker 1: to see, like, Okay, was this band, like, did this
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  Speaker 1: band age, well, did this band like have actually some
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  Speaker 1: sort of fan base back you know, fifteen twenty years ago?
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  Speaker 1: And so I'd be really curious if Jonesetta did do
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  Speaker 1: like a reunion show even or if they did like,
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  Speaker 1: let's say a furnace Fest set, what would people show up?
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm just I would be so curious, Like I
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  Speaker 1: just I really don't know, like I don't really have
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  Speaker 1: a way to gauge what their level of like there,
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  Speaker 1: what their fan base is really like. So I just
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  Speaker 1: really don't know. You could totally be right, Jeremy, though,
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  Speaker 1: like maybe like they end up having a massive show
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  Speaker 1: at like something like furnace Fest. If they did something
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  Speaker 1: like that, I have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows.
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  Speaker 1: JJ any thoughts on Josetta.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, y'all.
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  Speaker 8: Covered pretty much everything that I would say, and I
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  Speaker 8: apologize if I'm still like lagging his stuff. But I
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  Speaker 8: think one of the funniest comparisons that YOU'RETT has ever
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  Speaker 8: gotten like to a band was Jonesetta.
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  Speaker 5: We were to show it. Yeah, yeah, how weird is that?
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  Speaker 5: But I will say the guy was like pretty drunk.
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  Speaker 5: But we were we were in.
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  Speaker 8: And a guy came up to me at a pizza
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  Speaker 8: shop that we had played and it was a sick
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: show we played with Kai and Nashi. It was really weird.
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  Speaker 8: We were really out of place. It was like us
• 17:21
  Speaker 8: in a bunch of like hardcore bands and so. But
• 17:24
  Speaker 8: this guy came up to me beer one hands, pizza
• 17:27
  Speaker 8: slass in another and was just like, dude, you guys
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: remind me.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: Of Joe Zetta and like YadA YadA, YadA, And the
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: whole time I was.
• 17:34
  Speaker 10: Like, this guy is crazy, like just absolutely nuts. But
• 17:40
  Speaker 10: I don't know, I feel like there's been some other
• 17:43
  Speaker 10: people that have like kind of brought up the whole
• 17:45
  Speaker 10: like you know, you and some of the people you're
• 17:48
  Speaker 10: like coming up with like, we feel.
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: Like, you know, there was a little more time and
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: attention put into than you know, it could have been
• 17:54
  Speaker 8: a bigger career or whatever.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: So I guess I can kind of relate there. But
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: maybe that's a little super cocky. But Joe Senna is
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: a great pick.
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: They're one of the like three bands that I have
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: listed in my little like in D section. So when
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: it gets to me having to pick there, I'm going
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: to be struggling.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: So Joe kind of screwed me.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: My bad.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Well, you might have to pivot now, all right, So
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I think our next one, next pick in the draft
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: order is Jeremy. So, Jeremy, who is your whatever category
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: you want.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: To pick, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna stay in in
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: the emo punk, post hardcore world. I'm gonna show my
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: age here because I'm older, but I'm gonna say Roadside Monument.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Oh you were going to choose that pick.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I absolutely adore this band. Everything about them.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: They have feel like broke the mold for tooth and nail. Really,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: if you think.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: About it in terms of credibility in the indie world,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: if you will, they almost signed a Jade Tree which
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: at the time was you know, promising, you know, all
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: these incredible bands, and they were on a Crank Records
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: comp which at the time was mineral and you know,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: all these incredible bands, and but I think Roadside, you know,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: was so ahead of their time, and both are what
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: is it? All three records are so different. The first
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: one it's hard. It's hard for people to digest because
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: of a lot of you know, the sound wasn't great,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: and I think a lot of it they were just
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: kind of finding themselves. And then of course when Matt
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Johnson and Jonathan Ford came into the fold, it was
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: just another level.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: And unbelievable band.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Incredible dudes, like absolutely honored to know those guys. And yeah, man,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: they they they paved their own path and I feel
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: like they're criminally underrated in the emo hardcore post hardcore world.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: I really don't even care. They're just a badass band.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: So underrated, and I mean, like, you know, with their
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: kind of mathy vibe and stuff, it's like, you know, who,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: like no one was really doing that, at least specifically
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: within the Christian scene I think at the time. Yeah, exactly,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Like you know, they have kind of this like you
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: know Mineral, you know, sort of American football vibe or whatever,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and like they were just Christian bands at that time
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: doing that. And also like they like broke up before
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of like Mineral and like American football broke
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: up or before they like blew out, because like they
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: were broken up by like ninety eight, and so like
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: they were so early in that. So when it comes
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: to kind of that math rock emo stuff, they're not
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: only like an early Christian band in that, like they
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: might be one of the earliest bands that were doing
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing, just generally, like they were just
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: so early on and all of that. So, yeah, that's
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: a great pick Roadside Monument. Had they like even been
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: maybe like a few years later, like if they would
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: have started a few years later, I think they would
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: have really blown up. Yeah, yeah, great pick, Jeremy, any
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: other thoughts around Roadside Monument.
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: I actually ended up buying one of the records that
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: Unoriginal Vinyl teamed up with Duthe Nailed to Do, and
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: I actually started to listen to them, and yeah, they're
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: They're incredible. Definitely a band that it's kind of funny
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: to me. I think we live in a day and
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: age where you know, people are like, well, what's a
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: new band that we should check out, and it's and
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: sometimes I'm like, maybe it's best to go back and.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Look at like the labels that you love.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Check out a deep cut, you know, from a band
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: that maybe just released one or two records.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: And they were one of those bands that.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: Where I, you know, retroactively went back and checked it
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: out and I'm like this sick and I had to.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: I had to own it.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: They were also like they could have been maybe one
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: of those like first bands that did the whole like
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: we're Christians in a band but were not a Christian
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: band kind of thing. Like I think they were one
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: of the first, Like I mean they were doing that
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: really early on. So yeah, well before like under Oath
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: decided to do that or whoever else, like they they
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: were doing that pretty early on. Yeah, dude, they.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: They they absolutely I think for a lot of people.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I just had Adam from Hopsall on the podcast upcoming
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: episode and.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Also that guy he's just the best guy ever.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: He said seeing them in Polar one night just changed
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: his life completely.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: And it's cool.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I mean it's incredible, like you have a band playing
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: in front of thirty kids and somebody walks away and
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: like their whole you know, musical you know, direction changes
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: and for the best, you know obviously, So yeah, absolutely
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: man underrated band.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: They strike me as one of those bands that like,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: if you were really into roadside Monument as a kid,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: like let's say you were like in high school or
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: even college age and you were really in the roadside Monument,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: more than likely you started a band as well. Like,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: they just strike me as one of those type of bands. Yeah,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: just a band's band.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: I was about to say they.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Are a bands band for sure.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Cool, that's a that's a great pick, great pick, all right?
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Jj uh the the you know, the last shall be first?
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Uh as you know as once why one wise person said.
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: Just what, I'm breaking the in D Street just because
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: it is my weakest category. For sure, I'm going to
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: go ahead and kick metal or hardcore bands because of course,
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: and I really really went.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Back and forth on this uh a.
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: Lot today, but I think I have to go with
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: a plea for Purgeon.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: So I was.
• 24:11
  Speaker 11: Thinking that So've talked a lot about them on this
• 24:16
  Speaker 11: podcast before, so I'll save a lot of my breath,
• 24:20
  Speaker 11: But a plea for Prgin is the best band that
• 24:23
  Speaker 11: ever came came out of Facedown Records.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: I'll say that with my whole chest.
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: And you know, they were hometown heroes of mine being
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: from Nashville. They also can just you know, Andy alone
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: can make the best burgers out of the Christian metal
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: course scenes.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: So I think I've made a very strong case already.
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: But I mean I literally have a plea for Persion
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: tattoo on my back.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: The Marriage of Heaven and Hell.
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: Is a top ten christ For record, Like I don't know,
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: like it was cool seeing them get to do some
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: reunion shows and stuff like that.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: I think there was a new found love for them,
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: especially in.
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: The national area and the first best community and stuff
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: over the past couple of years.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: So that's been really cool to experience.
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: But Purging is one of those bands that to me,
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: when I first started listening to them and going to
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: shows and stuff, you know, I was like a you.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Know, pre teen young team, and they made a very big.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Impack go ahead, go ahead and cohed.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: Oh sorry for the blag. Anyway through the technical difficulties.
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: I am placing my pick with a flea for Prging
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: and we can involved.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: It's a great pick. I literally was. I had them
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: on my list. I don't know if I was going
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: to pick them or not, but definitely so underrated. One
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: quick story for you, speaking of Andy and his Burgers.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: So a few years ago at furnace Fest, when they
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: played their reunion show at furnesce Fest, in the middle
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: of their set, you know, but I think probably most
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: people listening to this podcast now know that Andy, the
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: lead singer for ple Ford Perging now has a burger
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: joint called bad Luck Burgers, and uh they were also
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: so bad Luck Burgers was a food truck at Fornasvest
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: that year that they were also doing their reunion show,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: and in the middle of the set, the bad Luck
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Burger workers come out behind the band and they just
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: start chucking out these burgers in the crowd. Like they
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: had to have been like a hundred, Like, JJ, were
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you there? Like there had to be one hundred of
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: them there.
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: I missed that show, but yeah, like they they like
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: it was his crew. They were through it and some
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: of the orthodox guys, I think some think we're there.
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: But kind of piggybacking on that story.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: So when we played First Best Last, we.
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: Played in shed and we were actually debuting a new
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: song that.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: Was untitled at the time. It ended up becoming Ever Minds.
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: But while we were playing the new song, literally for
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: the first time ever, Angie ran up side stage with
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: a burger.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: It was like shoving it in my mouth while we
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: were playing.
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: And it's one of those moments where it's like, again,
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: like these guys were hometown, here is of mine. I
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: grew up listening to them and stuff. So it was
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: a really cool, like full circle moment for me being like,
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: oh my God, Like I like idolize this fan's grown up,
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: and now here's this guy just feeding.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Me a burger while my own band.
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: Plays in front of god knows how many people were
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: in the shed that day.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: It was sick.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I can dispute the pick. I mean,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: so I was curious. I'm like, were they really considered
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: that underrated? Here's my only argument. So what I will
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: say they are only they're actually currently under sixty five
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: hundred monthly listeners on Spotify, which feels like criminally low,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: criminal criminally low. I will say though they did chart,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: not on the Billboard, but they did chart on like
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: different charts like the US hard rock charts. They did
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: chart on the Independent chart and also the heat Seekers chart,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: so like, and I know that those charts aren't like
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Matt Like, it's not like those are massive bands at all,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: but they did chart in comparison to like, I guarantee
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: you Roadside Monument didn't. I guarantee, I guarantee you, like
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: even probably Jonzetta didn't, and I don't think I would.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I have to double check, but I doubt Number one
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Gun ever charted either on any sort of chart, So
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: a plea for Virginia at least charted. So that's my
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: one and only argument. At one point they were popular.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: I think I like this pick because I think they're
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: an incredibly gifted band.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: I love the guys.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I was lucky to have booked them multiple times back
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: in the day when I was doing shows the kindest people.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I really kept in touch with Blake, the guitar player,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: and he's a home inspector now and I was doing
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: home inspecting and he kind of reached out to me
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: and I kind of helped, not helped, but pushed him
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: in the direction of getting that. So I feel like
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: I have a link in that aspect to the band.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: So I definitely have nothing but love for them, and
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Andy's incredible, super sweet human being.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I think this is a great pick.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I get the charting, but I mean, let's be honest,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: it's freaking heavy metal, and you know, people, you know
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: it's not disturbed, so you know, it's just I think
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: it's a good pick.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. Also, I take back that argument
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: because number one Gun did chart on the US Christian
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Charts and also the US Seekers Chart, so I take
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: back that argument. I disc like, you know, forget that
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I even mentioned anything.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I like the plea pick too, because I think
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: the other thing to note was I think they were
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: one of the first two bands that were actually actively
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: channeling that my Suga sound outside of my Suga at
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: the time, and especially with Depravity, I think that started
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: to kind of.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Be a thing. And the only other band at the
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: time that I think that was kind of doing that
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: was Periphery, so you know, and.
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: It took quite a while, I think, maybe like three
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: to five years for the scene that kind of catch
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: up to that, and then Suemerian core kind of became
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: a thing, right, So I think they have that going
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: for them as well, and I think some of the
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: unless if you're a musician or a person that just
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: enjoys like music that has polyrhythms and like and all
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: that stuff, it wasn't quite nearly as accessible as maybe
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: some of the other metalcore counterpart arts that were going
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: on at the time.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: So, you know, but I think they were.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: I think they're another band's band that you know a
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: lot of people still look back at, you know, Marriage,
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: Life and Death and Depravity is like that. That's a
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: three album run right there. In my opinion, that's when
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: hell of a run. And I know that a lot
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: of musicians that we love that are much bigger bands
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: also cite like particularly Marriage as just perfection.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Also the only band that I'm aware of to ever
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: have gotten a ghost on their album as well, So
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I do have So all right, great pick, JJ, I
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: feel like we're just like knocking out these like first picks,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: like we're hopefully hopefully our second round isn't really just
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: totally collapse, all right. So I was first in this
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: in the first round, so that means we're gonna sneak back.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: So JJ, you're gonna go first again here for the
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: second round, So take it away. What genre do you
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: want to pick? And what band are you gonna pick?
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: See now I'm overthinking everything, So man, y'all, y'all, I'm
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: gonna tell.
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: You all what I originally wrote for this one, and
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: then I'm gonna pick it.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: So for the punky though genre, I actually wrote Patro
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: of the line because I knew there was gonna be
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: some like discourse and stuff there.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: But I don't know if I can because didn't did
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Patro kind of like blow up there? Like I mean,
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: I know Bizon I did with soulo stuff too, but
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that can qualify. But so did
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: any of you guys write Patre down at all?
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Who?
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: Who the line?
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you robbed me Bro. I wanted to pick them.
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: Okay, So I can stick with this one then, because
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: if no one else had written that.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: I was gonna be like, yeah, it was probably too
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: big of an artist. Really, I don't know the numbers.
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: I just in my head David b is On and
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: then Pedro were always just like massive. But I think
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: you know, and I'll keep this quick, but it's at.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: One of the best songwriters.
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: You know, just as a big band listener or whatever,
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: like one of the best songwriters to do it, both.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: On record and in a live setting.
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: And I think, you know, all of the music that
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: came out of that like world was very profound and
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: thought provoking. So anytime that I think of Pedro, I
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: just think of like, you know, literally like emotion. But
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: not many people really, at least I guess, out of
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: the Christian scene or a Christian adjacency, but like really
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: know who Pedro and Whyan is. So and it was
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: cool that they like came back and they've been doing
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: record and stuff. But I think in my like adult
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: life out outside of music quote unquote, I've ran into
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: like one person in a while with that was like
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: a big picture of the Lion fan.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: So that was cool, and it's somebody.
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: I work with and they're a little older, but it
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: was just like refreshing to see somebody else that like
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: had been listening to page of the Lion records.
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: And again, like you know, now that we're talking about
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: all this, it.
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: Makes you want to go look at numbers and see
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: if there's any accolades and stuff there. But this is
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: an artist that has absolutely resonated with me and most
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: people that like have ever.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: Checked their music out.
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: So that's my pick for the punk emo genres pager.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Of the line.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: So okay, so here's my I I will say I
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: did think about adding Pedro to my indie as my
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: indie pick. I do think they might be too big,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: like I do think.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: See, that's what I was worried about. That.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: That's my argument that like not to say you can't
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: pick them like that can be your pick. I'm just
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: saying I think they might still be too big. They
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: are currently just around forty thousand monthly listeners on Spotify.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Now here's what you will say, should that be way more?
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Of course it should be. It should be way more.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I think we can all agree on that because Pedro
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and Dave are just they're incredible. But it's I do
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: think like they are at a level where I mean,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: like Dave, Dave is able to still I mean I
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: don't I don't know him at all, but like I
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: would imagine like he's still like he could probably put
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: out a Pedro album and like that's kind of his
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: thing for at least a year. Like I think, like
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I he's at a level where like that could be
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: a full time job, like that that's the kind of
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: dedication and fan base that Pedro that has, like, in fact,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: about a year was it a year?
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Year ago Pedro came to the Twin Cities and they
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: like sold out a five years in the Twin Cities. Like,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: like to me, that's like, yeah, should Pedro be playing
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: way larger shows? Of course they should, Like they came
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: out of Seattle at the same time that like Modest
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Mouse did. Like should they be as big as Modest Mouse?
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Of course they should be. But but they still are
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: playing like I think, pretty like decent sized shows. So
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: my only argument obviously I think all of us are
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: gonna like show Pedro all the love. But my only
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: argument is, like it's not that I think they're underrated
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: in the general music scene and probably even among Christians,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: but like they are like pretty big, like or like
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: big to some degree, much bigger than like some of
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the artists. Yeah, much bigger than like, you know, like
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, Joe and and Jeremy with their
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: indie picks, Like they're way bigger than Roadside Monument ever
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: was or Jones said ever was.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is Yes, they're a bigger band, but
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: this is a god tear pick Like, this band is
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: unbelievable band. I am absolute fanatic, prolific in every way possible.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Every record he's ever put out is flawless to me. Yeah,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: and he makes you think a lot. Those early records
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: really were pivotal for a lot of people that not
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: only were questioning their faith but maybe just kind of
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: you know, taking a step back and saying, hey, you know,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: maybe I need to digest this a different way. So
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: incredible musician, incredible songwriter, absolute massive fan. I've seen him
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: probably fifteen times at least. And yeah, not like Pedro
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: and Dave Bizon solo, I mean all the house shows
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: and I've been to so many of them. But yeah, man,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: the dude is a freaking monster and I'm here for it.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: He's truly like one of the best. Yeah, I'm also
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: look at it looks like all of his albums were
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: on Jade Tree. Yeah, and the only Tooth and Nail
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: album was that Whole Ep, which came out before their
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: first album, which if I remember right, that Whole Ep
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: he Jeremy, I think you would maybe know. I want
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: to say the basis for Hole EP was Ben Gibbert.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: He I think you've toured. I don't think he played
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: on the record. Oh he wasn't on an actual album.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: I don't think sour as a bass player with him.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: And then Jonathan Ford, who I mentioned earlier from Roadside,
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: played bass on It's Hard to Find a Friend, which
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: is a phenomenal record.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Ben Gibbert was a part of that for sure.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: And I know.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Jimmy World's like big fans of him, like they took
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: him on tour. So yeah, he's a band's band too,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Like I think he's an all around, you know fan.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Especially like if you if you were like a Seattle
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: band in the late nineties, you you like you were
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: a Pedro Dave Bizon like kind of person like you were,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: you know, whether it was like Death Cab or Modest
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Mouse or any of those bands that came out of
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: like Seattle in those late nineties, all of those bands
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: were huge pedro people. Like I'm sure they all played together.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they all know each other, I'm sure they're
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: all bestie. I'm sure all of that was a part
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: of just that Seattle scene in the late nineties.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: I say we let JJ have it.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I mean he should have it. It's
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: just it's gonna be the argument, like that's gonna be
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: like the downside of his pick.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I thought that might be the winning pick too, though.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: It could be.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm not made picks, but.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: All right, I think, uh, we're back to Jermy. Yeah,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: so Jeremy pick what genre you want and what band?
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Man, I'm gonna stick in the indie world because I
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: feel like some of these I want to shed a
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: light on. I'm gonna go with Joe Christmas. Joe Christmas
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: was you know, early nineties band. They were I think,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: probably the closest thing to Pavement, you know, the the massive,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: you know indie rock kings, unbelievable band.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: To both records they put out, think are pretty flawless.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Production obviously at that time wasn't the greatest, but I
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: think that's.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: The beauty of those records.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: They sound dirty in a good way, incredible, like I said,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: incredible band, and I feel like they did not achieve
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: what they could because I feel like they were doing
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: stuff that people just didn't get at that.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Time, and a lot of people don't still don't get it.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: But I think they were criminally underrated. And yeah, I
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: just if you haven't heard them, mean, you need to
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: check them out. They're phenomenal records and just trailblazing I
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: think for the Christian indie rock world or whatever you
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: want to call it. I think trail blazing for sure.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I am totally unfamiliar with them, but I am looking
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: right now it looks like they had two full lengths
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: and maybe an EP on Tooth and Nail. But yeah,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, seeing like you know, they had
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: like connections with Roadside, But yeah, I'm totally unfamiliar with
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: them at all.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Well, you should listen to them because they're incredible, So
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I mean clearly under I will say, like clearly you
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: meet the category or that you meet the requirement the
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: criteria of underrated. I haven't heard of them, and and
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I would imagine most most Tooth and Nail fans have
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: probably not heard of them, least multiple albums on Tooth
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: and Nail.
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: Quick question, are we doing, uh, one artist per like genre?
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: Pot?
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have to you have to pick from
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: an indie, pick from a punk slash emo, and have
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: to pick from a hardcore slash metal.
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: Okay, this is when I'm writing everything down like.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: Notes there you go, alrighty, So it's the punk slash emo,
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: then indie and then metal hardcore.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Those are the three. Now you can pick however you
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: want for each one of like you know what what
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: round you want to pick? You can pick in each
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: one of those. But so you have to pick from
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: each one of those. So so like, for example, I
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: picked from emo slash punk for the first one. Uh,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: and that means that this next one I will not
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: be able to pick from that, right so uh So
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: like Jeremy has picked indy and then now I would
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: is this your emo pick?
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: No? This my this my well I think the other
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: one was emo pick and this is my Indie pick.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: There they're definitely, in my opinion, considered andy rock.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, cool, So there we go. Any any other thoughts
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: around Joe Christmas? Honestly, I've never heard of them. Literally,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: as soon as you said that name, Jeremy, I was like,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: never heard this in my life.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Bro.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Just tell me what you think when you listen to
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Mom telling you they're so good.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I need to I need to all of you, all
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: of you all right, I think we are now on
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: to Joe. Uh, what is your second pick? So what
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: whatever genre? You want, and then uh, whatever remaining genres
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: you want, and then the pick.
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: Okay, let's see here man for metal hard and that's
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: gonna be so difficult, So I'm still mulling about that.
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: But I would say for the punk and emo, I'm
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: gonna go with Slow Coming Day.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Hmmm. Oh okay, yeah, Okay, great dudes, Okay, Joe.
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: I think I think Ryan had like a really cool voice.
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: I think they did do kind of that. I feel
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: like their sound was kind of bridging the gap between
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: what ninety emo was doing and then going into kind
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: of like the early two thousands a bit. And yeah,
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: that's never got to see them live, but I have
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: talked to Oriyan stuff and nice dude, and yeah, I
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: just really I really liked the their debut record on
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: Tooth and Nail, and I think they, yeah, they should
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: have been bigger.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I can't. I literally like, that's that's such a good pick.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: There.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: They are great band. Yeah, it is like surprising that
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: they never got bigger.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually at this point in my life when
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: they came out, I was kind of passed a lot
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: of this that I guess I wouldn't, you know. I
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: guess it's the Emo world do we want to call it?
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: I definitely was an EMO, but like just that kind
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: of was like exploring other areas. And I really got
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: into this record recently because you know, at that time,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Tooth and Now was putting out gobs of bands. So
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: I think they're one that I just missed. I knew
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: who they were, but I just went and listened. I
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: just had Oriyon on the podcast for our upcoming episode
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: as well, and he is super sweet, super kind. They
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: did a song on Deep Elm comp of Emo or
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: the What's the Emo Diaries? That's what it was, The
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Emo Diaries, which is you know, a beloved Emo seriously
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Deep Elm Records, which is huge. You know, Further was
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: on that on that and a couple other bands have
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: kind of sneaked onto that label through the cops. But yeah,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: great songwriter and incredible.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Dude, such a sweet guy. Yeah, good pick man.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: I definitely missed the boat when they came out, but
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: I really like the full length. Like you said, he's
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: got solo records that are great too. I've listened to,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: so yeah, I like that pick.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: It is weird that they only ever had that one
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: album on Tooth and Nail, and I kind of wonder
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: if it was just one of those things where like
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: it just didn't sell well on Tooth and Nail and
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: they didn't get resigned or whatever. But yeah, they only
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: have the one, the one album with Tooth and Nail.
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: I think I thought they were like a one and
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: done for a while, yeah, and then like he kind
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: of just did the solo thing and then they finally
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: came back like somewhat recently.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, it looks like they have some stuff
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: off of like on Indivision, which I know Indivision has
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: been like doing some release as well. So yeah, like
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: it looks like they like have been more active recently,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: which is cool. But yeah, like they they would have,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: yeah for sure, Like they had the EP that looks
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: like it was independent and then they had the album
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: on Tooth and Nail and then they just kind of
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: fizzled out I think after that.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so great pick, great pick, All right, my turn,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna be able to get my I
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: think I'm gonna get basically both of my picks here,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna it's gonna be a toss up here.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with I don't think you guys are
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: gonna pick my Well, there's already been a number of
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: indie picks, so I'm gonna I'm gonna go with that
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: last all right, So I'm gonna go with my metal
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: hardcore slash metal pick.
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: This is a band that I remember listening to in
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: middle school and I just was like so obsessed with them,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: and like two this day. I don't understand how they're
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: not bigger. I just literally look them up and got
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: them pulled up on Spotify. Right now, they are at
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: six thousand, two hundred and eighty three monthly listeners, so
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: less than even PLEA for purging. So they're even less
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: popular than in plea for purging, at least according to
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Spotify right now. I always thought they might have been
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: the most talented band, like just in terms of talent,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: like not to say that they were better than any
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: of these other bands, but just from a talent standpoint,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I thought they were more talented than any other solid
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: state band at the time in the mid two thousands,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: and that is in hell exhal, Yeah, they're sick. They
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: are only at six thousand, two hundred and eighty three
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: monthly listeners right now and I just like I think
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Rylan Rouse is his is the lead books his name. Yeah,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I always thought because he both was screaming and singing.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I just thought he was one of the most talented
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: singers that could also scream that I've ever heard, Like,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: he just was so good at both. And they just
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: and they were like they were doing the music that
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: was so popular in that scene at that time, Like
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: they were doing like they were doing everything they could
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: have to have been popular, and for whatever reason, it
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: just never caught on and they never got really big.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: It's kind of funny because that was a very big
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: band for me back then. I feel like there was
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: a trio of UR. There was four bands that signed
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: a solid stayed around that time, which were O Sleeper,
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: destroy the Runner, Inhale Exhale, five actually Cribly Afflicted, and
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: seven year Ties yep. And I think the three that
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: like probably popped off the most were obviously O Sleeper
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: and then I think Inhale Exhale, I mean they were
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: around for four records and Destroyed the Runner I think
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: only did two, but they were on good tours, you know,
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: opening up for ABR when they were approaching their peak
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: and whatnot. But fun fact about Inhale Exhale. Right as
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: they signed, they had a dude named Andy who was
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: the vocalist. Then I guess he left or something happened,
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: and then Ryland jumped in and re recorded all the vocals.
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: The record was already done. But wow, I really wish
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: I could get the other dude have like a very
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: unique sounding voice.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: I can't find that.
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: I've been trying to find the demo for like ever
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: after my you know, computer died from like two.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Thousand and five. But yeah, this was back when.
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: Pure Volume let you download like songs, Yeah and so
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: and yeah and then yeah, his name was Andy Levy,
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: I think, and yeah, they it's I was I've always
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: been curious. I mean, they apparently the the vocals were completed,
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: and I'd love to hear that version of the record.
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: But Ryland is amazing, and not only that. When I
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: saw them live, yeah, I mean they just brought it.
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: And what I liked about them, and I think what
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: they were kind of doing differently was I think they
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: had a little bit more metal to their core then
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: I then I think some of the other bands did.
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: They had more riffs, they weren't as chuggy.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's that's a good way to describe it.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: And yeah, but uh and Ryland is now an Attack Attack.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, and has been in it for a while.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: And they're like they're they're still touring a lot, and yeah,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: they're they're still killing it.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: He's in another project with Yogi from Demon Hunter to
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: and Trey from Pod I forget what it's called.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, World Gone Cold.
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and actually light Worker actually played with them, and
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: that's when Ryland actually, uh he was uh yeah, he
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: was just super nice to us after the set. He
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: was like, hey, you guys are really good. But I
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: thought it was like the typical like hey, cool set,
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: but like he was actually hanging out with us. So
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: shout out to Ryland, thanks for being a sweetheart.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a sweetie.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I love that. I like this pick.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: I uh not didn uh pull this again, but I
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: booked INHLXAL back in the day.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Really really sweet guys.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: John Larusa, the guitar player, he was in Narcissist as well.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: They've got any stuff coming.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, incredibly gifted songwriter and guitar player. Super sweet, Like
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: I said, Yeah, they were kind of in that time
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: frame of me kind of getting out of the heavy stuff.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: And also when you at that point when you're booking
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: you know, multiple metal bands, and I don't want this
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: to sound by any means it's light. It all sounds
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: the same at some point, like when you are booking
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: you know, four or five band bills and uh, I do,
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: I do Y. I do remember booking them and having
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: a connection with John which was really cool.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: But yeah, great band.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Uh you know just uh, like you mentioned, uh, solid
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: State signed what four or five in a row, and
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: it's one of those that definitely stuck out.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: But it was just so many bands coming out of
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: that time.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: That you know, I never really delved too far into
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: other than booking them and then being familiar with some
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: of the music.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: But yeah, great band. I like this pick because they're
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: super underrated for sure.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I just think they were like very talented and they
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: just like not to say they should have been like
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: the biggest, like to even like Solid State band, I
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: don't even know if I would say that, but like
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: it just seemed like they should be more than six
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: thousand monthly listeners. Like it just they just it kind
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: of feels like they fell off. And one other quick fact,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if I knew this about the band,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: but their original bassis, who was the basis on their
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: very first K was because they're a Ohio band. They
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: he was in Reliant K, like the he was the
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: original basis for Reliant K up until m M and
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I think and I think he did, like I don't
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: know if he did any album like full length albums
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: after that. Looks like he did some of the uh
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: like it looks like he did the the Christmas album,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: but I don't think he did anything else after that
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: with them. But yeah, but yeah, he was the Reliant
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: K basis, which that's gotta be crazy to go from
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: like Reliant K in the heyday of Reliant K and
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: then like leave Reliant K and then like do this
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: and then yeah, sleep on floors and then all of
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: a sudden, now you're out of like you're just not
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: doing the band. And maybe it was he was like,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: you know, transitioning out of that phase of his life.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: But I find that interesting and so anyway, that's cool. Well,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I think in a Hill XL that was a good pick.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: So that was the second round. So we'll now move
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: into third round. H So I think it's back to
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: me unfortunately, and uh, I'm gonna go into my indie
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: band and I'm so excited about this. And also, I'll
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: be honest, I was listening to this band the other day,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: like what was this like maybe two weeks ago that
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I reached out to you guys to talk about this.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: I was listening to this band, and that's when I
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: had this idea to do this episod. So, so this
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: is the band that created this idea. It might not
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: be a great pick, I'll be honest, but it was
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: the band that inspired this episode idea. Okay, So for
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: my indie pick, I was listening to a band that
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: was on Credential Records. Oh, I know where you're Credential Recordings, dude,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: I know where you're going. And this is a band
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: that I love this journey. You're such a nerd. I
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: think Credential Record, Credential re Recordings or whatever they were called.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: I think they ended like two thousand and eight, so
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: they were like early, like they had already like disbanded
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: as a as a record label pretty early. But I
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: loved everything that these guys put out, and they just
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: like they did two I think two full lengths. I
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: don't know if they did anything else outside of that.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: They did two full lengths and then they just like
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: ended and they have not done anything since. I haven't
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: heard anything about anything that they will do ever again.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Like they just like they ended in two thousand and
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: eight or two thousand and nine and they have been
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: done since. But they are truly I think one of
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: the best indie bands I've ever heard, and I've listened
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: to a lot I love indie music. I think they're
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: one of the best indie rock bands I've ever heard,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: and nobody knows about them. I'll literally I'll look up
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: their Spotify numbers right now, but the band is Edison Glass.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew it.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: They are the inspiration for this episode. I literally was
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: listening to the other day and I was like, why
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: why have not more people heard of this band? They
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: are currently at one or they are currently at three thousand,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: seven hundred and nineteen monthly listeners on Spotify, Like I
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: just and I think they are just like one of
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: the best indie bands you'll ever hear in your life.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I one hundred percent agree. I absolutely again book
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: this band multiple times. I actually and I there are
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: very few times, not very few, but there was quite
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: a few. But there's some that I book a band,
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: had no clue who they were, and my jaw dropped.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: And this was one of those bands that I have
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: absolute fond memories of. I'm good friends with all four
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: of these guys, Josh Silverberg, Mountain, James, and Joe. Incredible guys,
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: incredible musicians, severely underrated records. Very if you're a fan
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: of Circus, survive that type of thing. They're kind of
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: that vein, just very eclectic, start stop, melodic, unbelievable vocals,
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: like I mean, I sound like a due right now,
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: but I'm they were on my list and I would
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: have like, trust me, I have nothing but love for
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: this band.
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: Hell yeah, there were a band that I definitely saw
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: their name around. I just never got around to checking
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: them out. And that has happened with I mean there's
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: I mean back then, like you could listen to samples
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: on Pure Volume or something like that or FP three
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: dot com. But you know, if you really wanted to
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: get into the band, I feel like you, you know,
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: you had to buy the record, actually buy the CD.
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: And I think they were just a band that I just, yeah,
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: I just never got around to listening to, uh, but
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: definitely need.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: To check it out.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: Time Is Fiction, dude. I mean they're both great, but
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: Time is Fiction. The first two songs are going to
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: blow your mind.
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: Hell yeah.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Actually one of the times that Sorry I was in
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: as one of the times I booked them, I actually
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: had them open up for MxPx because they just happened
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: to be in the area. Yeah, I booked MxPx and
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: they just happened to be like, hey, we need a date,
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: and I was like, direct support, dude, this is what's happening.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: So it was freaking awesome.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: I'm literally adding to my Apple Music right now.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: It's just truly like it's they're they're like times Fiction
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: is maybe one of the most underrated albums I've ever
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: heard in my life. Even I forget what the it's
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: like something shiver burn yeah, shiver yeah yeah, a burner
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: or a sugar also an unbelievably underrated album. But yeah,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Time is Fiction is is yeah two thousand and seven,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: And it's like they were in that like timeframe of
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: like a lot of really good indie post punk stuff
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: going on, you know, like obviously I think you know,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Modest Mouse was probably at the their heyday, but a
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: lot of like good post punk, which sort of they
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: kind of had a similar vibe to like, you know,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: like I think they would be maybe somewhat similar to
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: like Franz Ferdinand, And it's like Franz Ferdinand was like
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: getting popular at that time too, So it's like they
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: had they were in that vein and for whatever reason,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: they just like didn't break out and the way that
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: those other artists did. And they were from New York,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Like I'm sure they were playing New York shows. I'm
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: sure they were playing, like, you know, all the kind
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: of cities that they would have needed to to really
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: broken out, but for whatever reason, they didn't, and then
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: they broke up probably not too long after that time.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: As fiction album, I think twenty and eight two is
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: the nine they were done.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Justin you need to hear this band too, dude, Like
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: it'll blow your freaking mind. The drummers unreal like unreal.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, they they truth truly, Like they're one of
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: those bands where you're like, how is like how literally
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: how are they not more popular? Yeah? Because they were
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: just and it's not like how were they not more popular?
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: But like they were in a scene or in a
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: time frame where it's just like, Okay, that doesn't it
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: didn't make sense. No, they were like they were there,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: they did all like they were in the city, they
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: were in the in the scene that would have been
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: popping off at that time, like they were in it
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: for like everything, every like every condition for them to
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: have been big would have been correct, and for a
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: reason they just didn't.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: They're a band's band too, for sure.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah they were great. So all right, So for my
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: indie pick, I'm going with Edison Glass. I think the
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: number so Joe, I think you're you're after me.
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So my final genre is metal and hardcore. I
• 59:55
  Speaker 6: do have to shout out the dudes on my shirt
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: ex Toll, because they're definitely uh Peters turned into a
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: good friend.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: Love them.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 6: And but the band I want to pick, I think
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: was ahead of their time, and if I'm not mistaken,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: they might have been the first I've done actually done
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: nerd research on this.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: I think do you I think so? And I's too
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: I was gonna pick.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: I'm just guessing, okay, so uh and it's actually a
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: musician that I'm going to choose because that way it
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: includes both of his projects, but it'd be Shane Ocener
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: so Hands and Everything in Slow Motion. So that's so
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: great because the thing is that I did a lot
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: of deep research and I think Hans is pretty much
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: a post metal band, like and and the first Everything
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: in Slow Motion record definitely had a lot of those
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: elements as well. And think the lyrics were very visceral,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: particularly for folks maybe of faith. I think Plea might
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: have gotten away with some of it because of the
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: fact that they were so heavy, you know, with in
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: Marriage and then obviously just like I guess, just metal
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: being the nature of you know, where all the Satan's
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 6: kids goes and hang out. You know, like I think
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: they kind of got the past. But you know, like
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: Hands is definitely you know, they're they're writing seven, eight,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: nine ten minute long songs and they're pretty vulnerable and
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: they're not meant to necessarily be palatable. It's it's not that,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: you know, you know, metal core and stuff isn't art.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: But this was just like, hey, I'm gonna ride this
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: riff until like it feels like it needs to transition
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: into the next thing, as opposed to saying like hey,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: here's our verse, here's.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: Our chorus, et cetera, et cetera. And I.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think that Hands and one of their
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: records is not even on streaming services because it got
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: stuck on a defunked label called ORT Records or something.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: It's called Sounds of Earth, and.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like the only way you can listen to that
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: is if you own the actual physical CD. And I
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: know for a fact that Jason at Facedown tried to
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: talk to the person that founded ORT and he just
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: won't let it go, like the rights to that first record,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: and it's just like, dude, this it's so underrated. And
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 6: I think a part of the reason why I also
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: loved Hands and Everything in Slow Motion so much is
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: Shane is also a huge Jimmy World fan. And you
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: can kind of hear it. Like once you know that
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: and then you go back and you listen to certain
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: tracks from Hands, especially the latest Everything in Slow Motion record,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 6: you can really hear it and and it's it's it's
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 6: it's really cool. And it's because one of the things
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 6: that Jimmy World does really well is they can pick
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: out just three individual guitar notes over and over again,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: and it's just like hits you with that emotion I'm thinking, like,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: you know, you listen to Polaris or something like that,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 6: you know from Jimmy World, and I get that same
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 6: feeling from you know, give Me rest Or then when
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: he started doing everything in slow motion. I mean, so
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: it's just like two really emotionally heavy records back to back.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: So you had Give Me Rest which which was like
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 6: dealing with doubt in his faith and stuff. And but
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: also I think some of the songs are about his
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 6: family and becoming like like a father for the first time,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: so it's like heavy stuff, and then goes into the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: studio says here, I'm gonna dropped this two song like
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: seven inch real quick, and then works on an album
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: called Phoenix, which is about addiction, being an addict, and
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: it's just kind of like WHOA like you, And I
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: just I think they're just completely underrated in the Christian
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 6: scene because at the time, I mean, I mean even now,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: like the christ course stuff that you know, like was
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 6: popping off was like you know, for today and stuff
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: like that. You know, you've got like those big breakdowns
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: and stuff. But I always felt like, sorry, I know
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: I'm going on a tangent here, but I always felt
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: like you know Hands was in everything, the slow motion
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: might have been better suited on something like relapsed records even.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: You know, like, so that's my pick.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: That's a great pick. Yeah, love everything that Shane does.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Two things I'll mention around Hands. One is Colin's not here,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: but I still remember when Give Me Rest came out,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: So it was twenty eleven, so I think Colin might
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: have been his like senior year, like freshman year of college.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: I remember one time Colin and I were riding around
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: in his car and we were listening to that album.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: And the last song on that album is kind of
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: this instrumental type of song for the most part, very
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: like slow, quiet song, and you know it's like Shane
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: kind of like sings give Me Rest, Give Me Rest,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: over and over. And I remember Clin like we were
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: in this middle of this like deep conversation and he like,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: we're listening to this song and he stopped me. We
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: were talking and he stops me and was like, Mason, like,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to like make this happen, but like,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: if I ever die and you're still alive, can you
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: just make sure that this is the song that plays
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: at my funeral?
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Wow, and I was like, for sure, man, and like
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: to this day, like if Colin were here right now,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: he would like he would stand by that. He was like,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: I would want that song to be played at my funeral.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: It's like such an important song for him. It's such
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: a beautiful song. And so anyway, that album is so incredible,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: like one of my favorite albums of especially of that era.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: The other thing I'll say about Shane and I remember
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: we like one of our first interviews that we did
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: on this podcast was with Shane about the Everything in
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Slow Motion album that came out in twenty twenty. One
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: of the things that I remember Colin bringing up and
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: I've thought this before too. I remember thinking about this
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: before Colin even brought it up when we were interviewing him.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Shane as a screamer. Like there's a lot of like
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: screaming that we hear from lots of different artists where
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: it's like I can't really understand what they're saying. But Shane,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because of like because he
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: grew up in like North Dakota or what, but like
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: there's something about when he screams, like it like even
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: the non like metal fan could probably understand what he's saying,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Like he is such a really clear diction when he screams.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: It's just very unique. And I just find that so
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: interesting about this band is he is such a clear
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: screamer when he screams. So anyway, great pick, Joe, Like
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: I I'm like regretting, not like obviously I love my
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: pick is in hell x help, but like Hans has
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: got to be up there too, Like that's such a
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: good pick.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's I will say about his vocals too. What
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: I love is that he has like his screams, then
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 6: he has that like really cool gritty yell that he does,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: and then he has like, you know, quiet sensitive Shane,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: you know, and so yeah, it just he's such a
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: great vocalist and he's such a great songwriter. He wrote
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: a lot of the Everything in Slow Motion and hands
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: stuff by himself.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: So well, I was wrong. I'll be up front with
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: you guys, I know who these bands are, but I've
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: never really dulved into it.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: But I'm extremely interested to do this now because I'm glad.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: Obviously all three of your opinions are respect So I
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: definitely want to listen to these records, and I know
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: who again, know who they are, heard the names, never got.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: To book them.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: But I'm excited to listen to this and I missed
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: the boat on this, I feel like just because of
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: that that boom of of doing shows and just kind
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: of getting lost in it all. But I'm I'm stoked,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: So I know they're all good. But what's the one
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: record I should start with? All right, Yeah, I'm gonna
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: I'm take time tomorrow when I'm smoking my stogey and
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: listen to it.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: Dude, Yeah, it's perfect because the thing is that like
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: to me, it's also now this is just me. I
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: don't know, Mason, if you would agree with this, but
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 6: like give me rest to me. I would always listen
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: to that record at night when it first came out,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 6: and just it's kind of it's a very contemplative record.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: And uh, like I said, I think it's probably the
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: very first like pote like if we're getting John or Nerdy,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: I think the very first post metal Christian adjacent record
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 6: ever written.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's like I don't know if
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: I would describe it as like as good as like
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Cult to Luna, but like you're definitely getting in that
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: vein of like Cult of Luna and just like nobody's
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: heard of them, like Joe, when you brought them up,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh God, I'm like so pissed that
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: ain't pick them. Uh but currently and sixty one monthly
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: listeners on Spotify, and that's It's like, that just shouldn't
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: be the That shouldn't be the case. They should be
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: in the at least the tens of thousands, especially because
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: of Gimme Rust, because Give Me Rest is so good.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and and everything in Slow Motions. The following record
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: with Phoenix, I mean, it had a freakin' guest spot
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 6: by Christian from Blineside too.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: But the last thing I'll say about the Give Me
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 6: Rest record, somebody one of the guys in Gojira give
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 6: him a shout out in I think one of those
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: metal magazines that were like, hey, what are you listening to?
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: And that the new Hands record, like they're an.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 6: Incredible band, and uh yeah, Gojira was listening to Hands
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: and yeah, anyway, that's amazing.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: Very cool.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: Dude, that's a great pick. I can't argue with that
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: at all. So all right, Jeremy, what's your third pick?
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: All Right?
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna show my age here. I'm gonna show my
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: age here. Metal and hardcore. This to me is the
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: most important hardcore band of all time. Again just my opinion,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: that's us, huh. Often copied band and I looked up
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: how many listeners there there are, and I am pissed
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: off at how low that of numbers they have, and
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: everyone touts their name on the furnace vest Community Group,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: always wanting this band to reunite the almighty strong arm.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: This is to me the most important spirit fell hardcore
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: hardcore band in the Christian world by far.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: All of them are great.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: But this is the to me, the pinnacle. They were
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: ahead of their they were so far ahead of their time.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: The melodicness, of course, you know, further seems forever. It's
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: essentially the same band with a different singers, so we
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: know what their track record is. But the vocals, and
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: I think both records are incredible, but Avanum a Miracle
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: is an absolute, flawless masterpiece. I mean, they're both great,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: but I mean the vocals on that record are just
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: haunting and beautiful and poetic and.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Just so intense. I think that's the best way to
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: describe it. Is intense.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: Change the game for so many bands, and they'll never
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: get their credit. They will never get it. But you know,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: I listened to a lot of the secular hardcore at
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: that time as well, and nobody was doing anything remotely
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: like strong Arm. Shai Halud was the closest, and they
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: ripped them off, and they're the first to say that
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: they did so, and that you know they were. Matt's
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: a massive strong Arm fan. He says this one of
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: his all time favorite bands, so it's a compliment in
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: my eyes. But dude, strong Arm Avnum a miracle is
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: to me the pinnacle of spiritfelt hardcore, whatever you want
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: to call it, and to me like the greatest in
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: my lifetime, the greatest hardcore band by far.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: The great pick I think. The only argument, which I
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: don't even know if it's like a good argument, it's
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: probably not even an argument, is all those guys were
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: so good and strong Arm was so good, and then
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: they created another band that was even better. Well, so
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: like they were if they made a band that's even better,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: like how good? Like obviously strong Arm is so good,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: but like they made a band that was even better, man.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: But you have to go to where it started and
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: to me, I think it is a game changer, just
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: specifically for me, they just were like unlike any band
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: I'd ever heard, and to me, like from the opening
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: riff of the first record for a Tonement and to
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: the last record or you know, the end of the
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: last record ad, it's flawless.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: It is literally flawless.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: So here's where I think you have a really good
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: argument to be made. So shi Halud is often cited
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: as like maybe a pioneer of metal core, specifically metal core,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if they are the pioneer, but
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: I do think they often are kind of credited as
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: like one of the early metal core bands. I think
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: there's an argument to be made that, like Shy or Start,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: not Shilah, strong Arm is maybe even predates them as
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: a metal core band because they were definitely doing that,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: like that sort of mergence of both metal and hardcore
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: in a way that felt like emerged as a new
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: kind of thing in and of itself, which we now
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: described as metal core. I mean they were doing that
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: before shi Halud, and then as you said, Chilahoud just
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: like ripped them off. So I mean you could maybe
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: make an argument that strong Arm was the first metal
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: core band. I don't know if I don't know if
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I'm willing to go that far because I don't know
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: the history of medical core quite enough, but I think
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: there could be at least an argument to be made.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: They're in the roster for sure, and I mean there's
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: a reason why they have such a strong legacy, and
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 6: they're one of those bands that, like, especially Advent a
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: miracle like I I mean, I just had to own
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: that album, so I have that on Wax.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: It's just one of those ones where it's like you
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 6: don't get all of Solid State, or at least the
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: hardcore side of Solid State without strong Arm, you know. Yeah,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: And you know, I mean especially a band like that,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: one of my favorites, Life in your Way, Like, definitely
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 6: don't get them without, you know, without strong Arm. I
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 6: mean it's kind of like X Toll, Like you don't
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 6: get Sumerian core without x Toll. These guys, nobody started
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: doing anything remotely close to what they were doing until
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: way later. And it's kind of interesting to me, just
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: a side note, that like Tooth and Nail and Slash,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: solid State were able to find such pioneering bands, whether
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 6: it was me without you you know, you know, strong Arm,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 6: ex Toll, et cetera, et cetera. They were on the
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 6: cutting edge from you know, like basically almost its inception
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: to you know, I would say, until the mid two thousand,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: so it was insane.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, great, great, great pick. Can't can't
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: beat that, all right, I think our last one of
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: the day, make it good, justin Yeah, I gotta go.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: I gotta go quick too.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 8: So again I think I'm still wagging a little bit,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 8: but my phone is at three percent, so I'm.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: Gonna make it quick. I had like a.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 8: Couple bands listed here, but I think I'm gonna pivot
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 8: last minute.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 5: So a few years ago, Threat went.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 8: On are one of our release tours with another tooth
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 8: and Nail band that signed just around the time that
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 8: we did, and we just really hit it off on
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 8: the road together. But the band makes sure if you
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 8: guys ever checked them out, so good good friends of
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 8: the Io Threat camp some of the most fun shows.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 5: That we've ever played.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 8: We were with those guys and they had just released
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 8: the Ninjutsu EP around I think they released before we did,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 8: maybe it was after.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: That's sad that I can't remember, like six years ago,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: but we were both like COVID signings.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 8: And I don't know, it's just one of those like
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 8: bands that like in a live setting, it really clicked
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 8: for me.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: I remember listening to.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 8: The EP that had come out and it was one
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 8: of those like, oh, this is cool, Like that single
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 8: girl drummer was really good.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: I was the one that stuck out to me.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 8: But then seeing like I'm definitely more live worried to person,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 8: so being able to like see those ship like those
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 8: songs live every night really resonated with me. And that
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 8: was a band for sure that did not get the
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 8: flowers that they deserved.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: And uh, yeah, I'm gonna have to shoot a text.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 8: Over to some people after after we hop off here,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 8: but yeah, if you haven't heard, make sure to whoever's
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 8: listening to this, you know, check out, make.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: Sure make sure you do.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, make sure you do.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 8: But yeah, that'll round out my picks for the evening, y'all.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Let's go pick good pick all right. I think before
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: we get into honorable mentions, we probably should mention our
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: our team. So I'll I'll go to uh, let's go
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: to Joe and then so say the genre and then
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: the band that you pick for that genre and then
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: go through each one of those.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: Okay, So for indie I had Jon Zetta.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 6: For emo, pop, punk or punk, I had Slow Coming Day,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 6: and for metal hardcore I had Everything or Shade Osterner Experience.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: That's a good way to discover it. Great picks, great picks, Jeremy,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Let's hear those pics again.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: The Lovely Roadside Monument, the Incredible Joe Christmas, and the
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: King's Strong Arm.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: Do you listen to anything post two thousand?
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: You know what? I listened to Idle Threat and Light Wow.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: There you go, Well, thank you Wow.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Way to schmooz, Way to schmooze. All right, JJ, I
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: know you got to get going here soon. But yeah,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: what what are your albums? So for minimal band, sorry bands.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: Please reurging.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 8: For my punk and emo bands, I picked Petrol gawayan
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 8: slash Dave was on.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: And for my indie band, I picked the Homies and
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: make Sure.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: Love It. Great picks and then I'll go with mine.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: So my first pick was in the punk emo category, Uh,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: I picked number one Gun. For hardcore slash metal, I
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: picked Inhill x Hill, and then for indie, I picked
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: the incomparable Edison Class love Edison Glass. So I'd love
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: to hear if you're, you know person listening or watching
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: on YouTube, or if you're you know listening on you
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: know whatever podcast app you listen to, uh, you know,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: if you want to let us know what band or
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: what team you think is the best. Honestly, I think
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: all of these teams are great. Like this is this,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: Like it just feels like we all got like the
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: the like the the semi finalists of you know, the
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: World Cup just was happening. I feel like we got
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: all the semi finalist bands. Like, it's just we got
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: all the top four. So big fans of all these bands.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: So thanks so much guys for for chatting Moore about
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: all these underrated Christian bands. Yeah. So if you if
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: you not had, if you have not heard of some
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: of these bands, highly recommend them. They're just some of
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: the best bands you'll ever listen to, even if you
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: know a lot of other people haven't. So I don't know, JJ,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: do you have enough time to do a quick honorbable mention.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: I'm at one percent. I'll go fast. So I really
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: wanted to put Advants as the metal or hardcore bands.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: And then obviously I just want to roll.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 8: Out like a lot of the homies, like you know,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 8: like Tiger Wye and the Undertaking Rival Choir.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: You know, just blah.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 8: Blah, all the people we've played shows with and stuff
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 8: over the years. But I will say my my two
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 8: favorite picks of the night probably were I was gonna
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 8: say Joe was going to have the best team after
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 8: the Jones pick, but I think the strong Arm pick
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 8: might have taken it for me, So Jeremy.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 5: Might get the best team out of us. But yeah,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: those are my honorable mentions. Yeah, what about y'all.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: Love it? I will say for my honorable mentions, just
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: a couple indie ones that I had that I didn't
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: pick the myriad. I don't know if you guys ever
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: listened to Love, but great band. Such an underrated band? Cool,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: hey Luke as well? Oh my goodness, such a good band.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: I know they were mentioned briefly. I think Joe you
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: might have mentioned them briefly, but Destroyed the Runner needs
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: to be up there. Super underrated. And then also they
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: were on Solid States, so they're kind of they're less metal.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: I guess you would put them in hard core, although
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: they never really felt like they fit exactly. But I
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: just looked them up on Spotify. They're at a thousand
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: monthly listeners. Far Less, yes, truly one of my favorites. Ever,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: I just don't nderstand how they didn't get bigger. Maybe
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: they were just too weird, I don't know, but like
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: and maybe they just didn't fit in one category. But
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like, you know, his legend and got
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: big enough, and it feels like far Less was maybe
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: sort of in that world. I don't know. But and
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: then Punk Slash Emo Searched the City. I do know
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: they're actually a little bit bigger on Spotify, but they
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: only kind of did the like one big album on
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: Tooth and Nail and then they kind of faded out.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: But I would say Search the City and then I
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: feel like I praise these guys all the time. Ever,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: if there's ever like a underrated emo band on the podcast,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: but I still really believe Terminal is one of the
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: most underrated emo bands I've ever he Oh yeah, how
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: the Lone They Keep is one of my favorite albums
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: still of all time, probably a top fifty album of
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: all time.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: So anyway, apparently it's not Apparently it's not.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: Apparently it's not.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: What then it makes your list? Is it apparently it's not?
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now now I kind of
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: feel like maybe maybe I'm backtracking, but yeah, Terminal I
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: think is so good. But yeah, what are some other
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: Honormone mentioned that we should mention.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 6: Uh, not to be silly here, but honestly, I would
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 6: say idle threat, I think they are actually doing something
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 6: that is something for that kind of transcends. I would
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 6: say I feel like this particular scene, like the Solid
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 6: State face down scene, you kind of have your generation.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 6: I mean, I guess it's every generation for music, but
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: I feel like I've seen a lot of like younger
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 6: folks like them and all the way to like, you know,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 6: folks that definitely grew up with the first era of
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 6: of you know, this whole scene happening and everybody sprinkled
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 6: in between and fantastic songwriting, ernest lyrics, great drumming.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say that was maybe the worst part
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: of it, but.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, fun live and and yeah. So
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 6: I would say it's definitely in terms of like modern
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 6: kind of sounding stuff that they're or modern the modern
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 6: age that we're in they're definitely the most underrated. And
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 6: then I would say for heavy music, I mean I'm
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 6: always gonna champion X hole. I like there's just no
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 6: way like it actually like low key like pisses me
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 6: off that so many bands just rip them off and
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 6: then just like took off. Like even the dude from
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 6: The Faceless was like, yeah, I pretty much just rip
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 6: off X hole. You know, I know that like again
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: a band's band, another band is becoming the archetypereandhy did
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: we Oh yeah, it's like we almost have to have
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 6: like an episode just for like heavy music and then
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 6: you know, like rip but becoming the archetype. I mean
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 6: they they just again just they transcend like the heavy music.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 6: It's all like anything that's on the more extreme side.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: They kind of dipped their fingers in like with all
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 6: of it. And I think far Less was a great
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 6: pick Mason like, especially because of the range that they had,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: Like their EP Turned the Bright like was kind of
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 6: like an alternative hard rock kind of thing.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I would say it's maybe one of the best
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: EPs I've ever heard.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a ton of.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: Fun regardless of genre. It's just one of the best.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: It's so good.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: They're working on a new record.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: Oh nice, And then I would say, uh, you know,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 6: and then like then their debut was like kind of
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: like heavier and you know, like had some screaming and
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: they have one of the they for the first two
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: releases had one of the best drummers and most under
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 6: rated drummers, and I would say tooth and Nail history,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: Ray Felts, insane drummer.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 6: And then they followed up with and that was a masterpiece.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 6: You know, everyone is out to get us. And then
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: they had this cool indie weird thing that was also
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: just masterclass.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Great band.
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  Speaker 1: Underrated for sure, Jeremy, any any honorable mentions, Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: have quite a few.
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  Speaker 2: Metal wise, uh x Toll, I gotta go with that too.
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  Speaker 3: I mean absolutely unreal band, literally one of the most
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  Speaker 3: underrated metal bands of all time by far. I would
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  Speaker 3: say becoming the archetype as well. Homies, Yeah, great dudes, incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Hopes Fall.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to put them that in strong Arm were
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  Speaker 3: like my two like and I only picked strongm just
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  Speaker 3: because of what it meant to me at the time,
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  Speaker 3: Like they're just to me the pinnacle.
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  Speaker 1: But hopes Fall also they are like way, I think
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  Speaker 1: way less listen. I think strong Arm is more more
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  Speaker 1: or less.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, definitely for sure.
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  Speaker 3: But Hopes Fall good friends of mine known them forever.
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  Speaker 3: Incredible band, underrated, and I would say there's another black
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  Speaker 3: metal I love called Antester. I oh yeah, yeah, dude,
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  Speaker 3: the Forsaken is in an unbelievable record. I mean they're
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  Speaker 3: all good, but that's to me. You know, if you
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  Speaker 3: want to listen to the Christian black motal or unblack model,
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  Speaker 3: what don't call it?
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  Speaker 2: It's incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Then for the For the other bands, I kind of
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  Speaker 3: lumped together Pullar, I love that band. I love Shiner
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  Speaker 3: and uh see Seasoned Risk all that kind of math
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  Speaker 3: rocky stuff. Pullar was ahead of their time, didn't get
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  Speaker 3: in their their flowers.
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  Speaker 2: Valor one hundred. I love that Etheol Indie rock, incredible band.
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  Speaker 2: His name is Alive, guys.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's an incredible, incredible band. I know this isn't
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  Speaker 3: really Christian per Se, but he was on he did
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  Speaker 3: a record through uh sub Pop, through Tooth and Nail,
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  Speaker 3: but Damien Gerado his first record was on there. He's
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  Speaker 3: an unbelievable songwriter, like Bazon, one of my favorites Morrel's Forest,
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  Speaker 3: another criminastic.
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  Speaker 1: Indie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah absolutely, and Fine China, which is an unbelievable, unbelievable
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  Speaker 3: band as well, uh Fair Abandoned Pools, blooms Day. I
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  Speaker 3: would say all of those could have made my list
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  Speaker 3: by like, yeah, yeah, so.
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna spat off a few that are kind of quick. Also,
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  Speaker 6: I would say once Nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's a great pick.
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  Speaker 6: Great, yeah, Once Nothing, the homies and the ongoing concept.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, yep, just another great pick.
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  Speaker 4: Just fantastic.
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  Speaker 6: Let's see here a band that I felt like had
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  Speaker 6: really good momentum, but then they just, I guess, kind
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  Speaker 6: of disappeared. They came back for an EP, but yeah,
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  Speaker 6: they just I don't know. But it was your memorial
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  Speaker 6: on babe.
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  Speaker 1: Oh they they might have one of my favorite album covers. Ever.
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  Speaker 1: I forget what the album is called Culin and I
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  Speaker 1: talk about it all the time. I think it's is
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  Speaker 1: it a tone? No? Oh, maybe it's not your Memorial.
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  Speaker 1: It might have been another different band. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a different and anyway, yeah, go ahead, Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: your your memorial? Also there I forgot they're in minneapolispan.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, they're twin citiespan and uh yeah, they I
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  Speaker 6: mean they they back in the day they were touring.
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  Speaker 4: I mean they were like friends.
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  Speaker 6: With Misery Signals and after the Burial, you know all
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: that that kind of like gent kind of sounding stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Who else did I want to shout out? I think, shoot,
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  Speaker 4: I had one of them? Oh so this was what.
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  Speaker 6: Was the project after self mind dead On, which is
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  Speaker 6: I think they're called Benea Reach. It was most members
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  Speaker 6: from and dude, their three albums, they they just never
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  Speaker 6: got anywhere. But I mean it's like if you took
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  Speaker 6: the Suga masted On and Cult Luna and just a
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 6: bunch of like they're from you know, uh, Scandinavia, so
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: like just surrounded by ice and stuff in winter, and
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  Speaker 6: then like you have this like beheamoth of a record
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 6: or three records. Definitely check out Alviat that that's their
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  Speaker 6: second record. I think that's a really good entry point.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, I've never heard anything that sounds like.
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  Speaker 4: Quite like Brene Reach. That'll be my last one.
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  Speaker 3: I want to add one more this and I'm pissed off.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't say this in my last but the Prayer
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  Speaker 3: Chain to me was a defining oh band, The Mercury
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  Speaker 3: Record is a masterpiece and absolute legendary record in the
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  Speaker 3: Christian alternative world, if you want to call it that
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  Speaker 3: game changer. I remember the day I bought it, you
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  Speaker 3: know those that moment, and it's just kind of yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's is a It's an incredible record. Sorry, I wanted to.
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  Speaker 3: I needed to add them because they were so influential
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  Speaker 3: to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great and also I think the lead
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: guy for that band ended up finding or finding founding
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: Floodgate Records. Yes, Tim also included some of the bands
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  Speaker 1: that you know we've already mentioned.
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  Speaker 2: So sure, cool.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I love all these bands or even even I
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: guess I haven't heard all of them, but like all
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: the bands that I have listened to that you all
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: mentioned some of the some of the best bands. And again,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: like I said before, like if you haven't heard some
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: of these bands, you absolutely need to check them out.
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  Speaker 1: They are just so criminally underrated, again, not only in
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: the general music scene, but specifically in the Christian music scene.
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  Speaker 1: So great picks, guys, it's hard to hard to imagine
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: what team might end up being victorious. Obviously JJ's got
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: his money on Jeremy, but I don't know. I think
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: we've got some really good We've got some good teams.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have any money, Well yeah I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any I don't have any money to
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  Speaker 1: put on it. But if I did, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly, I feel like it's got to be like
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: pretty even odds. So anyway, thanks so much for reminiscing
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  Speaker 1: about some of these bands. Again, just some of the
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: best bands out there that a lot of people haven't
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  Speaker 1: heard of. So thanks so much for you all chatting
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  Speaker 1: about them.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Then don't know that, and they don't know that.