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"Look in the Mirror" - The First Steps You Need If You're Unhealthy & Stuck! | Troy Casey, CHN · Everyday Ancestral with James Barry

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Welcome back to Everyday Ancestor, where we strip it down to what truly heals.
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Are you ready to get nuts?
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Because today's guest is Troy Casey, certified health nut,
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unapologetic truth teller.
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He's here to torch the lies of modern health and remind us what real vitality
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looks like wild, grounded, and radically sovereign.
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If you are ready to ditch the comfort culture and reconnect to primal power,
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this episode delivers. Let's get nuts. Here's Troy Casey.
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So you've been in this space going down this health journey for 20 years, right?
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I started studying natural medicine, nutrition, natural health,
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herbal medicine, fasting, 35 years ago.
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I was a Versace model.
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I was a Versace model sitting in Milan, Italy, just quit school to go into the
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fashion industry. I thought I could make a lot of money in there.
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And then I got out to Milan and people were like, honey, you're fat, right?
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And I was like, well, I wasn't fat yesterday.
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And then I realized I was bloating from the stuff that I ate and had digestive
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issues. Went down to the English bookstore,
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bought a book on nutrition.
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One on herbs, Jethro Claus.
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He's got a family heirloom from the 1840s back to Eden.
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It's called.
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And those books, those first books I read on nutrition changed my life.
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They opened up my eyes to what whole food, real food was all about.
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And I was living in Italy and they had farmer's markets.
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And I'd never been to a farmer's market before, you know, typical American.
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You know, this is late all through the 80s, 70s.
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I mean, Captain Crunch and Pop Tarts were like, you know,
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I mean, we didn't need all junk food, but definitely that was a steady part
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of my diet, right?
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And so I didn't wake up, you know, until I was 23.
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Started studying nutrition and 35 years later,
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this is the application of my study research and practice.
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And so with the last 20 years, I've been on social media.
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I was one of the first responders to YouTube, actually 19 years.
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So 2006, I started on YouTube.
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Wow.
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So what was the trajectory, like as you started to learn,
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what were some of the first things you started to change?
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Well, eating whole foods, number one.
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And I went vegan.
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One of the books I read was Fit for Life.
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Harvey and Marilyn Diamond.
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I was just listening to David Wolfe on Rick Rubin's podcast.
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And that was one of David Wolfe's first books.
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And David hung on to that diet paradigm for many years,
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whether it was his bread and butter or, you know,
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I think he got a lot of really good information on super foods
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and other herbs, but he, you know,
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I watched many people adhere to that diet and get very sick.
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Candida, all sorts of major issues.
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I had major issues, two years into it.
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Very cleansing for six months.
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And then long term, I had hormonal issues.
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I was anemic, skinny fat, adrenal burn,
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dark circles underneath my eyes,
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and still dealing with indigestion,
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obviously eating soy and things like that.
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So it broadened my perspective on whole foods,
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eating more fruits and vegetables.
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However, one of the biggest pieces for my digestion was gluten.
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And I figured that out in the mid-2000s.
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And so end of the 2000s, more like 2009, 2010.
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And I got amazing results just from going gluten free.
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And so I now avoid that like the plague.
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And so there was the application of nutrition first off,
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got results, then the vegan kind of created imbalances.
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Then I had a lot of success as a Versace model.
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I worked with the original supermodels, Naomi Campbell,
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Chrissy Trillington.
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And so I had a lot of success.
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And so I traveled and lived a rock star life.
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And there was drugs and alcohol everywhere.
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So I got very involved with partying drugs and alcohol
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until that got out of control.
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And I sobered up and it took me many years.
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And then I found vipositive meditation in 1999.
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And vipositive meditation changed my life dramatically.
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That was one of my major wake-ups.
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And then I started working with Maori healers
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from New Zealand, Indigenous healers from New Zealand.
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And then I drank Ayahuasca with the Shippepo Indians
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in 2006 in the Amazon.
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And those were three of my really big wake-up calls,
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big transitions in my life.
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Wow.
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I mean, really a head of the curve, too.
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I mean, some of these things are really just coming
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into play now, particularly plant medicine,
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being more and more kind of popular.
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But 2006, that's very early on.
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I mean, did you ever read Cosmic Serpent?
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Yes, I did.
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Jeremy Narby.
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In fact, I studied many of the ethno-botnists
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and the people had gone to the Amazon rainforest.
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At the same time, I was down there doing research.
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I was working with an herbal company.
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And the herbs changed my life.
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And so I went down there and met our vendors.
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We had a facility down there for camel camel.
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We dehydrated the camel camel berry down there.
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It's the highest concentrated source of vitamin C.
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We had about the top 40 shamanics, a plant called Iparuru.
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Iparuru is good for lactic and uric acid.
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So it's excellent for recovery.
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And met the Indian spar-up river that harvested it for us.
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And I was enamored with the power of the plants
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and the results that I got from them.
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And so, and then after drinking the ayahuasca,
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I was leaving the rainforest.
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And there was a mountain of sawdust.
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And there were two by fours on barges
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going up to Home Depot.
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And I just realized I had all that plant medicine in me.
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And you've got this power, the feeling of the Amazon.
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You're not the top of the food chain, right?
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And so I was down there just saturated in oxygen
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and seeing this mountain of sawdust
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and realizing, hey, man, I have a responsibility
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as a human being, as a man on this planet.
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We hear the destruction of the ecosystem.
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And so I came out of the jungle
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vowing to make a difference in this world.
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And that's been unfolding for the last 20 years.
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Did you have kids?
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Or when did you have kids at that point?
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And was that part of that kind of change
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and help instilling change in others?
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Yeah, great question.
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Because when I went to the Amazon,
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growing up in the States or just being in the States,
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we've got all these milk carton children.
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So people are very protective of their children, right?
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Here, I didn't have cousins and nieces and nephews.
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I didn't have a big family.
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So I was never around children.
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I went down to the Amazon
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and there's children everywhere.
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And the city centers, the Indians
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would be selling their textiles
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and their children would be running around
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and they'd got these big eyeballs
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and they're looking up at you.
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And I'm like, wow, this is so precious.
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And they're so innocent and pure.
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And so I was amazed, right?
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Then and there.
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That was when I was in Iquitos.
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And then when I went out to the jungle,
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of course, there was more children there.
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And I had never had this experience.
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I was buying the young boys.
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A lot of them, I could pay 50 cents
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and get a plate of food for them.
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And some of the boys they wanted sneakers.
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And I was like, yeah, let me buy kid sneakers.
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Let me tell you, handing out charity.
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Man, that will empty your pockets quick.
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And so the boys I would buy them food
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and then I'd be eating at the cafes
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and the little girls would come up to me.
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And I had never seen a little girl so precious.
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You know, three years old, four years old.
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And I have a picture of photograph.
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I can send it to you.
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You can put it in the interstitials.
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I just fell in love with the children and the innocence.
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And they say you're never ready to have children.
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Well, when I came home from the jungle, I was ready.
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And I was in interrelationship
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and a lot of the women in Los Angeles
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where I was living, they're very career focused.
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And they were like, yeah, I'm not interested
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in getting married or having children.
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And I found one girl that I was friends with
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and she was interested in that.
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And so within a year, within six months
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of coming home from the rainforest, we had conceived.
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And my son was born the year after.
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And so, and I brought my children back.
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And yeah, the rainforest lives inside
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of my children and my family.
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The whole energy of my experience down there.
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What was it like though?
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Because it's one thing when you're incorporating these concepts
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and these principles, they're in a completely different
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environment than America and our normal modern society.
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Was it challenging coming back
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and being facing the difference and the contrast?
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Well, I mean, look, there's always enchantment
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and far away lands, right?
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And so, and I'm born in from the United States.
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There's things that I really love here.
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You can get enchanted with Latin America
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and the sensuality of the people, especially the women.
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However, I love the homeland here that I was born in.
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I love it here.
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And so, we bought land in Ecuador at one point.
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We were going to move down there.
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However, you know, I realized that what we have here
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is very unique and very advanced in the culture.
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You know, I think it's everything your podcast is about.
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What can we take from the primal ancestral ways
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and what can we take from the advancements
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and then live in harmonic balance with the two?
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Coming out of the jungle,
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I realized that oil exploration
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is the number one deforestation component.
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And oil, if you look at the war, the war in Iraq,
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and I had quite a few visions when I was down there,
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flying on Ayahuasca, coming home in my, in my hut,
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sleeping, hearing all the noises outside
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and hearing this plain fly from Brazil
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because we were deep inside the jungle,
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backing up into Colombia, up the river from Iquitos in Peru.
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It was a dead end into just uncharted territories.
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I could hear this really faint airplane,
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maybe 40,000 feet, because most commercial airline,
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there's fly at like, you know, 35 really high up there.
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It's, you know, 40.
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I could hear it way up there.
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And then I started thinking this was 2006
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and we had just started the war in Iraq in 2003.
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And I did some, we were doing comedy shows
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at Second City in Los Angeles.
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And we talked about the propaganda that was happening
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with the UN resolutions to go to war with Iraq.
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So it was fresh in my mind and I'm thinking,
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I'm going up there, I'm going, wow,
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you know, we have people on this planet like,
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could you imagine if bomb doors started opening up on this plane
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and just, because you're raw on Ayahuasca
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in the middle of the jungle, vulnerable.
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And I just started imagining that and I was like,
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oh my God, we're doing that to other brothers and sisters
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on this planet.
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And what are we doing it for?
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Oh, bulls**t with the Saddam Hussein and the chemical weapons
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that we gave to him, right?
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Donald Rumsfeld gave to him.
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And I was like, oh, bulls**t, right?
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This is about oil.
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This is flat out about oil.
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And I read the book Confessions of an Economic Hitman
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by John Perkins and I realized the way of the world
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was for the World Bank to lend money
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to these third world countries to build infrastructure
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using those, the loans from the World Bank
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goes to Bechtal at Halliburton.
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These private firms to come in there and build dams,
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waterways, roadways, grid systems.
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And then once the grid was set up,
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they'd go in and extract the natural resources.
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Well, first of all, they'd say, hey, we gave you this money.
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Now pay it back.
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Oh, you can't pay it back.
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We understand.
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Then give it to us, give us your natural resources
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and pull it out with a slave wage from your people.
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Oh, you don't want to play that game?
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Okay, well, here's Chile.
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Here's Venezuela.
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Here's Ecuador.
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Here's Panama.
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Remember what happened with Noriega?
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He was the drug kingpin who used to run stuff for us
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after he didn't want to play games with us anymore.
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We just overthrew him.
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This is exemplified in geopolitics
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where we just take what we want,
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either through banking and economic hitman
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or if the coup d'etats don't work like in Rwanda,
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then we send in the American military,
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Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Iraq,
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and then we go after the natural resources,
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whether it's oil, which is the majority of it,
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but now also tungsten, cobalt,
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all the lithium batteries.
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This is being extracted at a slave wage.
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So I'm understanding the way of the world
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and I'm realizing that I have a responsibility
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and I have a participation in this.
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So my eyes were open to that.
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I was sober at the time.
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I was doing a lot of meditation.
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And then I had started a family.
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And so this is, you know, 20 years later,
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I'm still on the same track.
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The visions that I had down there,
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I'm still on the track to get the world healthy,
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to usher in clean air, water, soil,
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and equitable systems for all mankind.
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The biggest thing I'm doing is raising human consciousness.
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I'm entertaining the people no different
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than the Kardashians are no different
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from your favorite influencer online.
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I'm here to get attention and I'm doing a pretty good job.
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But I'm not subsidized by pharmaceutical companies,
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which is also intertwined with the commercial
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aggregate business companies,
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and pesticides, and herbicides, and monsanto,
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and all of this stuff.
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It's all intertwined with complete f***ery, right?
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This is the world that we live in
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and trying to unwind that in a world
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where everyone's doped up on scientism, right?
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It's not science, it's faux science.
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Scientists, there's the prostitutes of the modern era today
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as my mentor Paul Czech likes to say,
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whoever can pay can play, right?
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Same thing with the media.
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The news programs are not news,
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nor east, west, south,
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that's what the news means, we're porting on it.
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No, this is all conjecture and propaganda
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and scientific studies are researched by us.
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And so anyways, I'm going deep down the rabbit hole
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on the side, but I mean, this is how I got awakened.
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I can see clearly what's happening.
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How do you unravel it though?
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I mean, I think that's what most people
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are having trouble dissecting is like,
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who do I listen to?
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What is the right path?
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What's the wrong path?
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Is it more of just like, you got to try it
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and see if it works for you
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and if it doesn't then pivot or how do you filter out the noise?
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And how do you assess this is legit and this is pseudo?
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I call that the path of the heart, right?
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The heart always knows.
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The question is, are we listening?
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Said another way, the pain teacher is always guiding us.
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The question is, are we listening?
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So we've got 75% of the American people
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that are obese or overweight.
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That was 62% when I started certified health not
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less than two decades ago.
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So that's exponential growth
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in a very short amount of time, 62% to 75%.
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And then 75% is close to 100%.
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I'm part of 100% and so are my children.
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So if I don't do something now, who's going to do it?
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Who am I going to wait for?
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Another man, another politician?
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I like the ideas of some politicians,
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but I'm not waiting for another man
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to make a difference, especially in the history of politics,
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which is basically just taking money, right?
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Especially what American politics has turned into.
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The path of the heart is, well, truly what do you want?
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Do you want to see a healthy future
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for your grandchildren's grandchildren?
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The next seven generations as the American Indians
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would talk about, we have a certain responsibility
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for those seven generations.
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I've simplified this and I put this in my book,
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ripped at 50, a journey to self love.
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And this isn't about my physique,
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even though I've been able to achieve my dream physique
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at the age of 50.
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It's about how to balance the human being.
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That's why I'm on top of the Swiss ball
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in the middle of the desert.
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It's about balance and harmony and harmony with nature.
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If I can do it, then other people can do it as well.
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And so 75% of the American people are obese or overweight.
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One in two will get cancer.
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Prostate cancer with men over 60 is a super high percentage.
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And so what is the solution?
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Become healthy in as many facets as you possibly can,
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mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually,
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vote with your dollars on your own bloodstream.
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We've seen the circus come to town every four years
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with the presidential elections.
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And so, how about voting for yourself, right?
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And voting with your dollars,
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this is really the only thing that people pay attention to
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is the economics.
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And so what's more important than supporting local farmers
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are people that have dedicated their lives
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to good soil and good animal husbandry
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and good nutritious food.
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What's more important than that?
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I'm here to tell you there is nothing
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because when you lose your health,
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you will spend all your money trying to regain it.
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You've been challenging the mainstream health though
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for years.
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You've been doing this work and yet the obesity rate
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percentage is increasing.
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So what beliefs or habits do you think are making people
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sicker, softer, or more spiritually lost?
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I do believe the biggest critical component
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is psychological warfare, propaganda.
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And if you've read the dystopian novels
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from the 20th century, 1984, Brave New World,
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these things were exemplified in those
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and I think we're living through them right now.
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And so, psychological warfare programs us
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to think that, oh, organic food doesn't make a difference.
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Oh, it's all the same, right?
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Well, how is that?
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How do my clients go to Italy and eat pizza, ice cream,
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and pasta, and lose weight, right?
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Obviously, there's something different in the food,
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whether that's billions of pounds of glyphosate
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or billions of gallons of glyphosate sprayed
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on our crops and our soil.
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Glyphosate is it's ubiquitous and it's pervasive.
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You can't just wash it off and this affects the gut microbiome.
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So I'll scientifically validate it
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that the human being doesn't have a shakemic pathway
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but pests do, right?
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So we can just use glyphosate.
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Well, that's how it was put on the market.
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But come to find out there's microbes
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inside your gut microbiome, right?
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And they have a shakemic pathway.
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So if you're killing off the good bacteria inside the gut,
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lo and behold, you have gut issues across the board.
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You know, the internet's full of people
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that have gut issues and trying to solve that problem.
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The gut is the environment inside of the human being, right?
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We carry our soil on the inside
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because we are in symbiotic relationship with the earth,
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with the microbes, the fungus, the parasites, the bacteria.
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And so there is no separation.
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And so we are the environment.
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So if we've trashed the environment
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with, you know, bomb making materials and pyrochema
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and dresden and then we take those materials
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and then we put them into the soil, like NPK,
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which was the bomb making materials in World War II.
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We put that in the soil, it's called NPK.
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Many people remember the Oklahoma City bombing.
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Well, what was in the trucks?
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It was fertilizer.
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We've been putting bomb making materials into the soil
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since World War II.
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And then Monsanto created Agent Orange and Napalm
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to burn down the jungles of Vietnam.
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So war profiteers, again, what do you do after the war is over?
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Well, they just rolled that into making herbicides
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and herbicide resistant GMO seeds.
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The corporations and the heads of state
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is a revolving door, watch the movie, the corporation.
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And we all know this.
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But because of the psychological warfare,
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we abdicate our responsibility
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and we're just being, oh, the government will take care of that.
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The government will help us.
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The government's here to help.
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Help us, we all just went through COVID.
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Oh, fuck it.
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When's the last time you've been to the TSA?
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I stopped dealing with the TSA
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because that is the totalitarian tiptoe.
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They're just lining you up to get into the Auschwitz hole, right?
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And so this is bullsh** and 9-11.
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I mean, that's what the whole premise is set up on.
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And then one only needs to talk to a unchained model
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of chat GPT open AI to understand the history of false flags.
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World War II, Pearl Harbor, false flag.
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Gulf of Tonkin, Jim Morrison's father,
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the commander in the Gulf of Tonkin
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that started the Vietnam War, false flag.
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Then they televised that war into everybody's home
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in the 60s and the 70s, right?
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This traumatized us.
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The war's still going on.
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And the war started after they instituted the Federal Reserve.
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So it's all intertwined, right?
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And this is psychological warfare
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that keeps everything complacent.
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And it's time, this is a clarion call
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to all the men out there, like cut the sh**.
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Like take the blinders off, right?
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This is the world that we live in.
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And as Americans, it's up to us.
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We have some of the only last messages of freedom
22:50
on the planet.
22:51
We have our God-given rights written on a piece of paper.
22:55
The First Amendment is protected by the Second Amendment.
22:57
So it's up to us.
22:59
If you see what's happening in the UK,
23:00
you see what's happening in Australia?
23:03
You see what's happening in Canada?
23:05
It's up to us to keep moving forward
23:08
and advocate for a better world and cut the bull**.
23:11
Stop poisoning the children.
23:13
Stop diddling the children.
23:14
How about that?
23:15
That bull*****, right?
23:17
On my watch, it stops.
23:19
To your point, a lot of what's happening
23:22
is it's just trauma is playing out, right?
23:24
How do we get connected back to this humanity?
23:27
Do you think that it sounds like for you meditation
23:32
was a huge early on piece for you
23:35
in connecting you to your humanness?
23:39
Do you credit that or is it breathwork, grounding?
23:41
Like what do you think would be a good first step
23:44
for the person that is?
23:45
Like I hear Troy, he's right, there's trauma,
23:49
there's disconnect, how do I,
23:51
what's a first step that person should take?
23:53
Here it is, brother.
23:55
Look in the mother***** mirror.
23:58
You like what you see?
23:59
You like who you are?
24:01
Is that the example you want to raise for your children?
24:04
The answer's right there.
24:05
You all know in our heart, like we're not,
24:08
I tell you this is the path of the heart.
24:09
So meditation guided me back to the heart.
24:12
Ayahuasca guided me back to the heart.
24:14
It opened up the heart.
24:15
We all have a heart and soul.
24:17
The question is, is are we in touch with it?
24:21
The pain teacher is always guiding us.
24:22
The question is, are we listening?
24:24
So the pain can get louder
24:26
or you can simply look in the mirror,
24:29
look in the toilet bowl.
24:30
Do you like what you see?
24:32
If not, do you like the life that you've led?
24:36
It's been said that our thoughts
24:39
is what create reality.
24:41
And most of our thoughts are subconscious.
24:44
So if you don't know what your subconscious thoughts are,
24:46
just look at the life that you've created.
24:49
And you either like it, love it, don't like it,
24:52
wanna change?
24:53
And then this is the age of digital communications.
24:57
We can all see online as AI and fake boobs
25:03
and Kardashian, fake lips and makeup
25:06
and all this steroids and TRT and peptides
25:10
and all this phoniness and artificial comes to the hype.
25:16
Authenticity is going to become
25:19
the biggest commodity out there.
25:21
Find that online, people that are speaking truth.
25:25
The truth has a ring to it.
25:27
You can understand, again, back to the path of the heart,
25:30
where does this touch me in?
25:33
And so because there's so many talking heads
25:35
on the internet and you said something like,
25:41
not that I'm against the medical industry
25:43
or what I don't like to be against anything.
25:45
I'm for health, real health.
25:46
And I got point of contention of the pseudo health people too.
25:50
All these biohackers that are just on the back end
25:52
selling you TRT, which when I was growing up,
25:55
that was called steroids or testosterone, right?
25:58
Now, because it's a fucking microdose,
25:59
we're gonna act like it's not what it is, right?
26:02
And then peptides are innocuous,
26:04
but ozemic is just chowing people's organs
26:08
and their bone marrow now, right?
26:10
And so, and we're just acting like,
26:12
oh, these things are just amino acids or whatever.
26:16
Well, they're injections from China.
26:18
What else is in there?
26:19
What else do they put in the vats?
26:21
And you wanna outsource your manhood,
26:24
your hormonal signaling to China?
26:29
And they can just yank the supply chain?
26:33
Well, I don't think that's a good idea.
26:35
And I've got plenty of clients that want to have children,
26:40
they're losing their hair on steroids to get off
26:42
of those things once you subjugate your own endocrine system
26:48
exogenously, it's hard to recover that.
26:52
You need three to six months, and dad, right?
26:54
Like you got the flu to recover your energy
26:57
and stuff like that.
26:58
So these may not be the best ideas.
26:59
And the reason I say this is not to fault the end user.
27:03
That's like faulting, you know, people are on heroin.
27:05
We all need support, but the people that are peddling this
27:08
as the solution, these are no different
27:11
from any kind of drug dealer, right?
27:12
Drugs work, cocaine, heroin, fentanyl, these things work.
27:16
They have an effect, not that they don't.
27:19
Peptides work, right?
27:21
But what are the side effects?
27:23
And living with synthetics is not going to create balance.
27:27
And so again, I'm not here to guilt and fault the end user.
27:30
I'm here to tell people, and especially the young people
27:32
before they start using this, that there is a better way.
27:36
To boost your testosterone, you're going to need the sleep.
27:39
You're going to need the sunlight.
27:41
You're going to need the grounding.
27:43
You're going to need organic nutrition,
27:45
farmer direct, grass-fed remnants, and fat.
27:48
Fat builds your cholesterol.
27:50
Cholesterol is where you get your hormones manufactured from.
27:54
And so it's getting back to nature
27:56
and all of these facets and the heart knows this.
28:00
And now because the internet is so fake,
28:03
it's easy to spot something that's authentic.
28:06
I'm 60 this year, and the older I get,
28:08
the better it works for my marketing and branding.
28:11
Because I'm not here to bullshit anyone.
28:12
I'm here to guide them back to the truth,
28:15
back to their heart and soul.
28:17
And again, the truth has a ring to it,
28:20
and one only needs to look in the mirror.
28:22
Amen.
28:23
And I love, because I've talked about that before of like,
28:26
you know, when you're trying to figure out who to listen to,
28:30
look at the person and are they living what they're saying.
28:34
You know, so someone could look at you and say,
28:37
well, you said you're 60 or how old?
28:41
I'll be 60 in December.
28:43
Yeah, you look fantastic.
28:45
A lot of people are sometimes out of congruence
28:47
with what they're saying.
28:49
They don't look, they don't fit the part.
28:52
Do you think that that matters?
28:54
Or are you more of the, just listen and follow your heart?
28:57
If it speaks to your heart, just follow it.
28:59
What they don't tell you is a lot of that's drugs.
29:02
That's peptides, that's steroids.
29:04
And to think that TRT is not drugs or steroids,
29:08
that is erroneous thinking.
29:10
These are synthetic drugs.
29:12
And so you want to go to the drug manufacturing website
29:15
to look at the side effects from these drugs.
29:18
They're not innocuous as they're being sold in my day and age.
29:21
When I was younger in the 70s and the 80s,
29:24
these steroids were illegal, right?
29:27
And still to this day, tested.
29:29
But now, somehow they're socially acceptable
29:33
or you can get them from a doctor or a naturopathic doctor
29:36
and somehow they're socially accessible.
29:38
Brian Johnson is another one of these characters.
29:40
And then you want to look at what they are.
29:42
And again, when you see Gary Breckon television,
29:45
he's the 10X stages, he's not telling you,
29:50
I'm going to sell you $10,000 of steroids and peptides.
29:54
That's the back end through the psychological used car salesman
29:59
marketing of Grant Cardone, the psychological warfare
30:02
that I'm talking about.
30:03
This is part and parcel of the same thing.
30:05
And so when people see me and then they see someone like that,
30:09
they will go towards the marketing
30:11
because they're damn boozled from that.
30:13
I'm here only to shine light on the sunlight,
30:17
to the grounding, to the high quality water,
30:20
high quality nutrition.
30:21
I'm in business, of course I'm in business.
30:24
And so I work with organic superfoods and herbs,
30:26
something I've been utilizing for the past 35 years.
30:29
Irbomethousine has been around for millennia.
30:33
And so everything that I have is organic and natural
30:36
and biodynamic at the highest level.
30:38
What I see on the internet right now is gadgets, gimmicks,
30:45
and drugs.
30:46
And that's all on the back end,
30:48
you're not going to get to that until you see
30:50
their medical professionals, right?
30:53
Whether it's super duper, superhuman, 100X,
30:58
whatever these little marketing schemes are,
31:01
because I have people that have gone through
31:04
these programs, they get the genetic test
31:07
or they get the blood test.
31:10
And then on the back end,
31:11
they're selling them $100,000 in red light therapy,
31:15
oxygen therapy, peptides and steroids, right?
31:19
And they don't tell you that on the front end.
31:22
Until my friends buy that,
31:24
they go onto the 100X program or whatever it is
31:27
and they get a month's worth of peptides,
31:31
but they get a week's worth of syringes
31:33
and they inject it and end it up in the emergency room, right?
31:36
Nobody talks about that, right?
31:39
I've heard that on numerous occasions.
31:41
And so just buyer beware.
31:44
And nature, my biggest philosophy is nature,
31:48
nature solves all of our problems.
31:50
Get back to nature in as many facets as possible.
31:54
I love it.
31:55
I mean, I'm pushing organ meats but not in the capsule.
31:58
I'm all about like eat them.
31:59
And so I just try to make it as easy as possible
32:02
for them to get in their diet through eating them.
32:05
And it's always fascinating to me
32:07
because some of the most pushback I get is like,
32:11
what does it work?
32:12
Do you know, am I getting enough?
32:14
I'm like, wait, when did we start questioning
32:17
whether nature works?
32:18
Like this is how mother nature intended you
32:21
to get these nutrients.
32:23
Wait, you're telling me that something else is like
32:25
something laboratory made is gonna be able to do that.
32:28
And I think over time, we've seen like when they try
32:30
to create the orange in a laboratory, they always mess up.
32:34
They miss something.
32:35
But yet mother nature got it right.
32:37
Yeah, it takes the human genome 100,000 years
32:41
to change the human genome one tenth of one percent.
32:45
Meaning we are all basic hunter gatherers.
32:48
What were we hunting?
32:50
Grass fed remnants, whatever basically moved
32:52
had protein in it.
32:53
And the warriors would eat the organs first
32:57
because they didn't have a lot of time to sit
33:00
and digest food and stuff.
33:01
They wanted the energy first and foremost.
33:03
So the testicles, the liver, the heart, et cetera.
33:06
And then what were we gathering?
33:08
The women and children were back around the campfire,
33:12
the camp and they were gathering roots, barks, berries,
33:16
greens, whatever was vegetation that was edible.
33:21
And then they would sprout it or boil it
33:25
or make it bioavailable and drink it in a tea
33:28
or some type of poultice.
33:31
I've got a whole book of plants
33:34
and ways to heal the human body with touch,
33:38
touch point therapy.
33:39
My daughter got bitten by a scorpion a few weeks ago
33:43
and I put on, I think it was a Western mugwort.
33:48
I put it on topically.
33:50
It was a tincture and then she swallowed it.
33:52
She slept for the whole day and no pain was gone.
33:56
Those kind of medicinal pieces that are just growing out
33:59
in nature that people think are weeds,
34:02
we're completely losing some of not only the practice
34:07
of how to apply them,
34:09
but also just the knowledge of what they are good for,
34:12
what they can be used for.
34:14
You mentioned that book,
34:15
but is there like a good resource for people to look into
34:18
that can kind of learn and kind of,
34:24
I don't know, just grow their knowledge around
34:27
how they can utilize these herbs in their day to day.
34:31
Yeah, so the book I had mentioned before,
34:33
Jethro Claus back to Eden.
34:35
That's a great book with American herbs in it.
34:38
Then you've got, you mentioned Jeremy Narby.
34:42
I don't know if he's got a lot of herbal knowledge in there.
34:45
It's more on the psychedelic plant,
34:47
bruise of ayahuasca, et cetera.
34:50
But if you want to understand plant folklore
34:53
and the history of plants, Jeremy Narby's,
34:56
the cosmic serpent has application,
34:59
then you've got go look on Amazon or revismountain.org
35:04
revismountain.com REVIS, that's Peter Bigfoot
35:09
and his book on healing herbs is excellent.
35:14
He also teaches here in Phoenix.
35:15
He's about 85 years old.
35:17
And he walked across the desert about 40 years ago
35:23
and survived, took him about 15 days
35:25
to walk from the 17th interstate
35:28
to the superstition mountains.
35:30
And so, and he almost died, right?
35:32
At the peak of summer, 115 degrees.
35:35
And so, and the plant spirits, they spoke to him
35:40
and he survived.
35:42
And that was 40 years ago.
35:44
He's been living in the superstition mountains ever since.
35:48
And he's got remedies for snake bites.
35:51
Peter Bigfoot, find his book.
35:53
You might be able to find it on Amazon,
35:55
but revismountain for sure.
35:56
Earthmother medicinal, my friend,
35:59
Iridology with Haley.
36:01
It's like iridology.with.haley on Instagram.
36:06
She does iris readings and can read how your organs
36:12
and your blood is flowing just through your iris readings.
36:15
It's a very sacred practice.
36:18
If you've ever looked at someone's iris,
36:20
it's extremely powerful.
36:22
And so, she's got amazing herbal formulas
36:25
to detoxify the liver, the lungs, lots of red clover,
36:30
mullin' and so she's got great herbal formulas
36:35
and she may have a book and she may have a class.
36:38
You know, look in your local area, chat GPT or Google
36:41
and find local herbalist because this is an art
36:45
that we don't want to let go of whatsoever.
36:48
The lightofnature.com,
36:50
that's one of my students, Patrick has his own herbal company.
36:53
He's out in Philadelphia and he studied with his mentor
36:57
who's an amazing herbalist and teacher.
37:00
Wherever you can find an herbalist,
37:02
and if you have interest, I highly recommend.
37:06
You go down that road because what you'll find
37:09
is these herbs naturally build the blood.
37:12
They help flush bile secretion through the liver.
37:15
They break up excess calculi formations,
37:17
ballstones, kidney stones, et cetera.
37:20
They really work magic on the internal systems
37:23
and as Hoppaciti said, let thy food be thy medicine
37:27
and thy medicine be thy food.
37:28
He was a third century BC philosopher.
37:31
So this is back when natural food was available.
37:34
This is before processed foods.
37:35
Again, what were we eating?
37:37
Roots, barks, berries.
37:39
These were normally part of our nutrition flowers, right?
37:43
Safron, you want to lift the mood.
37:45
My friend Drew Canoli has an herbal company called Organify
37:48
and he puts a lot of these plant materials in dummies
37:53
in chicken broth gummies.
37:56
And so his happy drops have Safron and passion flower.
38:01
And if you look at the doctrine of signatures
38:03
of a passion flower, it looks like a majestic sacred geometry.
38:08
Have you ever seen a passion flower?
38:10
It's got like this lotus that comes out of it.
38:12
It's so trippy and it's just like, it's like magical.
38:16
I mean, flowers are just beautiful.
38:17
Just imagine the imprint of unique terpenes,
38:22
alkaloids, vitamins, minerals, enzymes
38:25
in a wildly grown flower with its own medicine in it.
38:31
And so again, back to food is medicine,
38:33
but we've gotten so far away from herbs.
38:36
We're eating domesticated apple orange banana
38:39
and the apple and the orange,
38:41
the book came from the Amazon, right?
38:43
They've been hybridded and apples used to be like crab apples, right?
38:46
So we got cucumber lettuce, tomato,
38:51
you know, about 15 domesticated vegetables,
38:54
but we used to eat wild stuff.
38:57
And you don't need that much vegetation.
38:59
People talk about lectins and oxalates
39:01
and phytic acids.
39:02
True, these are plant enzyme protectors.
39:05
However, we used to prepare them in a way
39:08
that they were bioavailable,
39:10
whether that's teas or tinctures or poultices.
39:13
And some things were edible.
39:15
And so my business partner, David Sandeball,
39:19
wrote a fantastic book called The Green Foods Bible.
39:23
And so he was given the legacy of Ann Wigmore,
39:29
the mother of wheatgrass.
39:30
She gave him heirloom seeds of wheatgrass
39:35
from the Egyptian tombs called Kamut.
39:38
And he's been growing them on volcanic ash beds
39:41
in Utah, far away from city centers for over 30 years.
39:45
And so there are good solutions out there.
39:51
And I highly recommend that book as well.
39:52
That book changed my life.
39:54
And I've been working with him for the past 12 years.
39:57
The Green Foods Bible by David Sandeball.
39:59
Excellent book.
40:00
Your brand is certified health nut, right?
40:02
So clearly using that language,
40:04
you recognize that people, you know,
40:06
even some that might be listening to our talk right now
40:09
are listening, going, do this guys.
40:11
Kuku, like this stuff is out there, right?
40:13
So and clearly you're kind of like built your mat,
40:16
you're claiming that and saying, yeah, yeah, yeah.
40:18
But let's get to the needy gritty.
40:21
So I just took enlightened people
40:23
that may be thinking like that.
40:25
You work with people, you work with clients.
40:28
What is it like to work with you?
40:30
Like enlighten them on like, look,
40:31
yeah, you're hearing the persona,
40:33
but this is what it's like when we get to work.
40:36
Here's the problem again with the psychological warfare.
40:40
So people think they know it all
40:41
because they watch a reel or they see a Huberman podcast.
40:44
Oh my god, the amount of mental masturbation
40:47
with Huberman or a Tia or any of these guys.
40:49
And not to knock their knowledge base, it's great.
40:53
But why do you need three hours of scientific dissertation
40:57
if you're not going to practice it?
40:58
Well, you're a electromagnetic being.
41:00
If you're not getting copious amounts of sunlight
41:03
and you're not grounding yourself every day,
41:06
what does it make a difference?
41:07
What biochemical pathway state goes down your neck?
41:11
It doesn't, right?
41:12
Or the absorption of the amino acids.
41:14
If you don't have the grounding out
41:16
of all this electromagnetic radiation
41:19
and pollution that's in your body, the voltage,
41:21
the wattage, the inflammation,
41:23
you're not grounding that out
41:24
with an electrical charge into the earth.
41:27
What difference does half this stuff make
41:29
if you're not getting high quality water?
41:31
You're drinking tap water with halogens, fluoride
41:34
and chlorine in it.
41:35
We're in symbiotic relationship with all this stuff.
41:38
So a holistic lifestyle isn't,
41:40
oh, I bought a box of organic food once upon a time.
41:44
Or I did a detox back in 2012,
41:48
and I'm cured,
41:51
but why do I have neck pain, back pain, obesity?
41:55
My dick can't get it up.
41:57
I can't get pregnant with my wife.
41:59
That's because putting the holistic principles back together.
42:02
And I put, again, in my book is The Nine Pillars.
42:05
I have a free download on my website.
42:08
The Nine Pillars of Health.
42:09
You can put it up on your refrigerator.
42:10
It reminds you of these basic fundamental principles.
42:13
Hydration, nutrition, sleep, movement.
42:15
We're in relationship with everyone and everything.
42:18
It's a good idea to be grateful for what is
42:20
and forgive what was nature,
42:22
sunlight, grounding, as we talked about before.
42:24
But most important, most important part of my work
42:27
and the foundation principles from The Nine Pillars
42:30
is legacy, purpose, your dream, your goal,
42:34
your heart's desire,
42:36
because that's gonna give you drive
42:39
to create a family.
42:40
Let's just say that's one of your goals,
42:42
to create a business, right?
42:44
There's so many ups and downs in business.
42:46
And if you don't have your health,
42:48
all the money you make striving to get that wealth,
42:51
you end up paying later on the back end
42:54
with doctors or drugs or surgeries.
42:58
And when that doesn't work, you find your way to me
43:00
and you still have to spend all your money on your health.
43:03
Whether that's leisure time, time in the sun belt,
43:08
time on the beach, organic food, herbal medicine,
43:12
or somebody to hold your hand,
43:13
this type of stuff you've got to invest in later on.
43:17
And this is what I tell my clients all the time,
43:19
invest all your money in your health first and foremost,
43:23
because when you get to the end of your life,
43:25
you don't talk about your trinkets,
43:27
you talk about your relationships,
43:29
and if you just had more time to spend with X, Y, and Z.
43:33
So I say do that on the front end.
43:35
A deep dive with me is very simple.
43:37
We go through the Nine Pillars.
43:40
You know, you have testosterone problems.
43:42
Okay, what time are you getting to bed?
43:44
All 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, how's your sleep?
43:49
Well, it's okay, start there.
43:52
Like we don't even need to move forward.
43:55
There's tons of research.
43:57
10 pm to 6 am is an optimal range.
44:01
So how can we plug you into that?
44:05
Because if we can't, the other nine pillars,
44:09
you know, you're not gonna boost your testosterone
44:13
unless you're getting that sleep.
44:16
Number two, then what's the quality of nutrition?
44:18
Well, I'm eating commercial food,
44:19
and I'm eating food out of a box,
44:20
and I eat out a lot because of work, blah, blah, blah, blah.
44:23
Well, you're not gonna get healthy eating food.
44:26
Carried, I don't care.
44:28
Yeah, you can get on testosterone,
44:29
and that might make your muscles look bigger,
44:32
but that, and give you a little bit of energy and strength,
44:34
but that is at the price of a drug.
44:37
Cocaine works, I give you some energy from cocaine, right?
44:42
Dude, that doesn't mean it's sustainable forever.
44:45
Dude, what's the quality of water that you're drinking?
44:48
Right?
44:48
So these are just basic, fundamental principles,
44:50
but they wanted to watch three hours of Peter at the end,
44:53
and Hoover made him be like,
44:54
ha ha ha, like, is it following my mind?
44:59
Is biochemical information?
45:00
It's like it makes so much sense.
45:02
But if you can't apply that into your life,
45:04
and you're not getting good sleep, who cares?
45:06
It's not gonna show up in the mirror.
45:08
It is so, so true what you're saying.
45:10
If you cannot apply what you learn, there's no point.
45:14
If the stuff you're eating, you don't digest it properly,
45:16
there's no point.
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And you're right, these foundational pieces are the pillars.
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I remember back in the days,
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someone tried to get me on testosterone.
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This is a while ago, and I was not sleeping at the time
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because I was working so much,
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so I was getting me before I was asleep,
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and I felt like a car that was stuck in park,
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but someone was revving the engine.
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It felt so bad.
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I immediately got off and I said,
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wait, wait, wait, wait, you got me on this,
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and you didn't even ask these questions,
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the Troy's asking me right now.
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The foundations are not even in place,
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and you're putting me on some stimulant.
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People got to get that clue in,
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is that we have to get these foundations in place
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before we do anything else.
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So amen to you, Troy.
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Thank you so much for showing up the way you do,
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whether people are turned on or off by it,
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I am excited by what you bring to the table.
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I truly do enjoy, I enjoyed our conversation,
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I've enjoyed watching what you have put out
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from what I saw before you met,
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and I love your message, man, I'm on board.
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Well, thank you so much, James,
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and I appreciate what you're doing.
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It's gonna take all of us,
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and this is a big clarion call to the man of the world.
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We know in our hearts what's going on.
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It's up to us, as Americans, again,
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we have some of the last messages of freedom and wealth,
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and so before that all transforms and changes,
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it's up to us to make the world a better place.
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We're gonna put all links in the show notes,
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any last piece, like where's a good place
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for people to start if they wanna dig into
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more of your content and your knowledge?
46:52
Yeah, certifiedhealthnut.com has everything.
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I have an online community.
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It's only a few bucks a month.
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I think the first week is free.
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I've got thousands of students on there
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where we go over this once a week.
47:05
I'm on there live answering Q&A,
47:08
and then my coaches and other teachers,
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I have teaching five to six times a week on that channel,
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sometimes seven, and so,
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and there's a ton of content on there,
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all based in health and healing,
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all natural medicine.
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There's no high-falutin weirdo ideas.
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It's all brass tax down to earth stuff.
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You can get the book, ripped at 50.
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You can get this on Amazon.
47:33
You can get it on Audible.
47:35
The hardcover collectors edition, the coffee table book.
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I have a couple hundred here.
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I send them domestically,
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if people find me on Instagram,
47:45
I'll autograph, copy that, and send one out.
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Other than that,
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there's a ton of free downloads on my website,
47:54
the nine pillars of health,
47:56
and if anybody is in dire need of the book
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and swears they'll read it,
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we'll send you a free copy digitally.
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Well, thank you, Gintroy,
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and thank you all for joining us on this episode
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