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Bonus Episode: A New Kurt Cobain Cause of Death Report and Artists Gone Too Soon · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey, Discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch, to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig
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Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to
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Speaker 1: confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: we are discussing me as a potter of the gets.
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Speaker 1: We're also talking about the new report on Kurt Cobain's
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Speaker 1: cause of death, my Super Bowl hangover that won't go away,
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Speaker 1: and we get into your emails, comments, dms, and as
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Speaker 1: always a whole lot of rosie. This is the podcast
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Speaker 1: for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who
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Speaker 1: know that the best history is the history that gets buried.
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Speaker 1: Disgrace Land is where I tell the stories they didn't
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Speaker 1: want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else.
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Speaker 1: All right, Discos, let's get into it. Mia Zapata, lead
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Speaker 1: singer for the Seattle band The Gits, died on July seventh,
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three, at twenty seven years old, just shy
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Speaker 1: of her twenty eighth birthday. She was murdered tragically, and
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Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine had Mia lived, how her music
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Speaker 1: in life might have evolved. Mia was both inspired and inspiring,
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Speaker 1: in part of a growing scene and born of a
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Speaker 1: generation steeped in rebellion. Whatever road she might have pursued
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Speaker 1: creatively or personally, I'm sure it would have been compelling
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Speaker 1: for us as music fans. Her friend Kurt Cobaine would
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Speaker 1: be dead less than a year later, on April fifth,
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, from a self inflicted shotgun wound, but
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Speaker 1: it's hard not to attribute the musician's debilitating heroin addiction
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Speaker 1: as a cause of his demise as well. In two
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Speaker 1: thousand and two, grunge avatar Lane Staley from Alice in Chains,
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Speaker 1: he fell victim to his own heroin addiction on the
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Speaker 1: exact same day as Kurt April fifth. His cause of
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Speaker 1: death officially was an overdose of heroin and cocaine, a
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Speaker 1: deadly combination commonly referred to on the street as a
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Speaker 1: speedball lane frequently shot speedballs with Seattle vocalist and poet
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Speaker 1: Mark Lanigan of the Screaming Trees. Mark was the last
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Speaker 1: person Kurt Cobain called before he died. Mark's band, Screaming
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Speaker 1: Trees were recorded a song in nineteen ninety six referencing
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Speaker 1: me as a pada called Dying Days. Mike McCready, Seattle
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Speaker 1: guitarist from Pearl Jam. He guests on the song Dying
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Speaker 1: Days the Miyaz, a Pada tribute by Screaming Trees, and
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Speaker 1: McCready handles the tunes guitar solo. Now, Mike McCready's playing
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Speaker 1: on that tune and on basically everything that he's ever
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Speaker 1: recorded is heavily influenced by the greatest rock and roll
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Speaker 1: guitarist of all time and fellow Seattle native, Jimmy Hendricks.
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Speaker 1: Jimmy died back in nineteen seventy. Now had he been
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Speaker 1: born in a later generation, Mike McCready's Temple of the
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Speaker 1: Dog bandmate and Soundgarden frontman Chris Cornell thinks that Jimmy
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Speaker 1: Hendricks would have been too heady a guitar player to
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Speaker 1: break through and to make it in the modern music industry.
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Speaker 1: All right, that's understandable. I guess Chris Cornell was speaking
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Speaker 1: about the music industry in twenty eleven, which was firmly
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Speaker 1: on a downward spiral by then. But what if Jimi
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Speaker 1: Hendrix had lived? What if Lane Staley or even Mark Lanigan,
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Speaker 1: As hard as that is to believe, what if these
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Speaker 1: dudes lived? What kind of music would they be making today?
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Speaker 1: What if Chris Cornell lived or Kurt Cobaine? What would
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Speaker 1: music even be like if these monumental voices were still
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Speaker 1: making it? Where would Kirk Cobaine's music and voice fit
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Speaker 1: into today's modern culture. That's a super interesting question to
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Speaker 1: think about for me. Anyways, it's hard, you know, I
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Speaker 1: think about, you know, would Kurt still be in Nirvana?
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Speaker 1: That's hard for me to believe. I believe that Kurt
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Speaker 1: wasn't long for the band no matter what, or at
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Speaker 1: the very least that he was going to make big
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Speaker 1: changes with Nirvana, either in sound, line up, production or
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Speaker 1: all three. And a lot of people ask what would
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Speaker 1: Kurt think of Foo Fighters? What would you think of
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Speaker 1: Dave Grohl modern day Dave Grohl, not to dunk on Dave,
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Speaker 1: who's had a off a couple of years. By rock
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Speaker 1: Star standards, but I think Food Fighters would nauseate Kurt Cobain.
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Speaker 1: And yes, I'm aware of what Davis said about Kurt's
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Speaker 1: positive reaction to some of his early demos that ended
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Speaker 1: up becoming fully produced songs on the Food Fighters first album.
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Speaker 1: I'm speaking less about the music here and more about
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Speaker 1: the hammy, super comfortable, normy, mainstream place that Dave Grohl
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Speaker 1: occupies in the music industry. I cannot see Kurt Cobain
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Speaker 1: vibing with that at all. But it's hard, almost impossible,
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Speaker 1: to predict what these artists who were taken too soon
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Speaker 1: would be like had they lived. I'm just guessing, That's
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Speaker 1: all I'm doing. I have no idea. I'm basing it
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Speaker 1: on the research I've done on Kirk Cobain and what
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Speaker 1: I know his personality to be. I don't know that
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Speaker 1: he would be into Dave grow in Food Fighters. I
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Speaker 1: don't think anybody knows. One thing I do think I
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Speaker 1: know about Kirk Cobain is that he was an entirely
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Speaker 1: unpredictable Of all these artists that I mentioned, I think
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Speaker 1: that Kurt Cobain, similarly to John Lennon, had he lived,
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Speaker 1: I think the Kurt would be most surprising comparatively to
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Speaker 1: their peers. To Kirk Cobain and John Lennon's peers, both
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Speaker 1: of these artists were fiercely independent, both were a true iconoclast,
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Speaker 1: both were extremely hypocritical, and both were wildly impulsive. I
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Speaker 1: don't know what to think about Kurt's life or music
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Speaker 1: had he survived himself, except that whatever I think, Kurt
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Speaker 1: probably would have done something different. He was rare in
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Speaker 1: that way. Again, like John Lennon, You're going to hear
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Speaker 1: a lot about Kirk Comain in the coming days. The
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Speaker 1: British newspaper of the British tabloid, I should say, The
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Speaker 1: Daily Mail just this week published a so called peer
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Speaker 1: reviewed report on Kirk Comain's death that supposedly refutes the
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Speaker 1: suicide cause of death and argues that the evidence surrounding
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Speaker 1: Kurt's suicide suppose a suicide. As they would put it,
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Speaker 1: they'd say, this report says that the evidence supports a
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Speaker 1: staged suicide, that it wasn't suicide, that it was in
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Speaker 1: fact homicide. Now why this report was published, I have
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Speaker 1: no idea. I can't even understand why the Daily Mail
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Speaker 1: and others like Newsweek are covering this report It's researchers
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Speaker 1: Brian Burnett and Michelle Wilkins, among others. This report their report,
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Speaker 1: I should say it was sent to us back in
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Speaker 1: December through what appears to be a publicist posing as
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Speaker 1: a rando. I'm not exactly sure we here at Double
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Speaker 1: Elvis examined the report. I didn't do it personally. Matt
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Speaker 1: Boden did much to his credit. The details in this
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Speaker 1: report are they're just they're they're I don't even I
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Speaker 1: can't even find the word for it. They're tough, I'll
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Speaker 1: put it that way. Visuals, it's not just text. It's awful.
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Speaker 1: So anyways, again, I didn't look at it, but Matt
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Speaker 1: looked at it, and I trust Matt completely. And Matt
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Speaker 1: concluded that the information that this report provides does not
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Speaker 1: disrupt what the King County Medical Examiner ruled back in
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four that Kirk Cobn's death was the result
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Speaker 1: of suicide from a fatal gunshot to the head and
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Speaker 1: the report the original report. The King County report also
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Speaker 1: noted the suicide note and the high level of heroin
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Speaker 1: in Kirk Kobein's system. But even without this report, if
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Speaker 1: one carefully reads the Daily Mail or the Newsweek articles
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Speaker 1: about the new report. You can discern pretty quickly that
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Speaker 1: the evidence that these researchers lay out is flimsy at best.
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Speaker 1: Now it's all wrapped up in the trappings in the
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Speaker 1: look and feel of an official report, a quote unquote
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Speaker 1: peer reviewed report. The report cites the positioning of Cobain's body,
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Speaker 1: claiming that it was staged to look like a suicide.
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Speaker 1: The report sites the fact that Kobaine had a receipt
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Speaker 1: for bullets in his pocket as proof of this staging.
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Speaker 1: This makes no sense. The report also cites a condition
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Speaker 1: of Kobaine's works, what he used to shoot, his drugs,
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Speaker 1: and the capped needles, and the toxicology report that indicates
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Speaker 1: the state of Kurt's body from heroin use. And there's
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Speaker 1: a whole lot more in here, but none of it
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Speaker 1: holds up this conspiracy theory that Kurt was killed, that
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Speaker 1: he didn't commit suicide, that Kurt was murdered. Okay, the
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Speaker 1: researchers here, the authors of this report, They do not
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Speaker 1: claim knowledge of who might have killed Kurt Kobain, But
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Speaker 1: we all know what the conspiracy theory is. It's that
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Speaker 1: his wife at the time Courtney Love had him killed,
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Speaker 1: and this conspiracy theory, it reminds me a lot of
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Speaker 1: the Lady Gaga illuminati theory. It just will not go away.
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Speaker 1: It just will not die again. You want to hear
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Speaker 1: that Gaga conspiracy theory, all the conspiracy theories related to
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Speaker 1: Lady Gaga, including that she had her her friendly and
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Speaker 1: Morgana killed and stole her whole musical identity. You can
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Speaker 1: listen to less two episodes of Disgrace and a couple
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Speaker 1: episodes back now in the eight years of making Disgraceland.
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Speaker 1: The group of music fans that I've pissed off the
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Speaker 1: most are the ones who believe that Kurt was murdered
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Speaker 1: by Courtney. But I am I was gonna say I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sorry. The evidence just isn't there. If it was,
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Speaker 1: you know, I would be the first to shout it out.
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Speaker 1: I am not afraid of digging into conspiracy theories. There
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Speaker 1: are no sacred cows. I'll look into anything, and I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna tell you straight up if the evidence supports it.
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Speaker 1: I'll even admit when I was wrong about things, and
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Speaker 1: I have been wrong, as we all are. None of
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Speaker 1: us are perfect.
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Speaker 2: And I'm not.
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Speaker 1: Afraid to say so. Listen, if I believe Courtney Love
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Speaker 1: had anything to do with the death of Kurt Cobaine,
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Speaker 1: I would not only say so, just to be honest,
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Speaker 1: it would make my job way more interesting. Not that
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Speaker 1: it's not interesting already, but you get the point. But
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Speaker 1: in defense of the Kurt and Courtney conspiracy theorists, there
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Speaker 1: are some facts that don't make sense, like the handwriting
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Speaker 1: on the suicide note, But if I put some thought
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Speaker 1: into it, I can quickly come up with numerous explanations.
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Speaker 1: So no, Kurt wasn't murdered, despite what this new report says. He,
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Speaker 1: like Jimmy Hendrix and Mark Lanagan and Chris Cornell and
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Speaker 1: Lane Staley and me as Apata, was just one of
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Speaker 1: many Seattle rock stars who died too young. Speaking to
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Speaker 1: Curt and Courtney. There's a Courtney Love documentary that's coming
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Speaker 1: out this year, I believe, although there's no date of
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Speaker 1: release yet that I can find. I'm very excited to
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Speaker 1: see this. I believe it debuted at Sun Dance, and
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Speaker 1: apparently Courtney addresses all of these batshit crazy conspiracy theories,
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Speaker 1: which I gotta say is pretty impressive. Zeth and I
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Speaker 1: are going to address these theories more fully in the
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Speaker 1: exclusive section of this after party. We're going to dive
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Speaker 1: into what the conspiracy theorists think, what they say. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to straw man this argument a bit, and I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna I've talked to Zeth about this in advance, and
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Speaker 1: I want him to come to the table and to
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Speaker 1: defend the point of view of the conspiracy theorist. Now,
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Speaker 1: as much as I don't believe in the conspiracy theories here,
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Speaker 1: as I've indicated just now, there is some compelling evidence, okay,
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Speaker 1: And we're gonna get into the note. We're gonna get
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Speaker 1: a little bit into l Duce and some other elements
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Speaker 1: to sort of break this down. And who knows, maybe
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Speaker 1: you'll learn something, maybe I'll learn something, all right, I
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Speaker 1: don't know, we'll see anyways. That's in the exclusive section
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Speaker 1: All right, again, speaking of artists shooting themselves. Next week
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Speaker 1: in Disgrace sand We've got a treat for you. We
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Speaker 1: are releasing into the wide feed for everybody to hear
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Speaker 1: our previously exclusive episode on Hunter S. Thompson, now not
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Speaker 1: a musician, but definitely a rock star in his own right,
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Speaker 1: and an artist that I know has a lot of
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Speaker 1: crossover in the world of rock and roll into the
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Speaker 1: world of music history and with music fans and counterculture fans.
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Speaker 1: This is gonna be the last last time we do this,
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Speaker 1: I think that being released an episode on a non
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Speaker 1: musician in the Disgrace Sland Feed. We produced this Hunter S.
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Speaker 1: Thompson episode a year or so ago, mainly because we're
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Speaker 1: massive fans and we wanted to apply our storytelling to
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Speaker 1: our research on this incredible writer and cultural figure. So
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Speaker 1: that episode is coming next week. And when you're listening
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Speaker 1: to the Hunter S. Thompson episode and Disgrace Sammy, thinking
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Speaker 1: about who your favorite writers are. Is it Hunter Thompson?
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Speaker 1: Is it, I don't know, Charles Bukowski is it William S. Burrows?
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Speaker 2: Is it?
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Speaker 1: Someone more modern? Is it, I don't know, Harlan Coben.
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Speaker 1: I can go on and on, and there's a million
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Speaker 1: great writers out there. When you're listening to this Hunter episode,
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Speaker 1: be thinking about who your favorite writers are and get
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Speaker 1: at me with your recommendations. I'm particularly interested in autobiographies
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Speaker 1: by musicians that you guys have read. I mentioned Mark
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Speaker 1: Lanigan before his autobiography Sing Backwards and Wheat. It's a
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Speaker 1: great example of what I'm talking about. Lots of you
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Speaker 1: guys recommended this book to me, and it led to
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Speaker 1: us creating the Mark Lannigan episode of Disgraceland. Now, whatever
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Speaker 1: musician biograph he's you're into, let me know, recommend him
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Speaker 1: to me. Recommend to me in honor of Hunter S. Thompson,
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Speaker 1: any other writers in general that that are just kind
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Speaker 1: of like rock and roll writers that whatever, they don't
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Speaker 1: have to be rock any writers at all that I
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Speaker 1: know that's broad, but I'm always looking for new new recommendations.
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Speaker 1: Hit me up six p one seven nine oh six
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Speaker 1: six sixty three eight voicemail and text to let me
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Speaker 1: know now. Coincidentally, Hunter S. Thompson's death was recently reinvestigated
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Speaker 1: years after he died, and uh a good year after
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Speaker 1: we produced our previously exclusive episode. So we're going to
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Speaker 1: get into this recent probe and next week's after party
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Speaker 1: as a follow up to our Hunter episode. All right,
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Speaker 1: back to this week coming up tomorrow right after this
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Speaker 1: episode in the rewind slot our episode on You Got
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Speaker 1: It Lane Staley, and then, like I said, we hit
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Speaker 1: you next week with Hunter S. Thompson. I'll be back
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Speaker 1: after this with your voicemails, texts and emails, where we're
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Speaker 1: going to discuss, among other things, your thoughts on musicians who,
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Speaker 1: like me as a Potter, were taken too soon, the
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Speaker 1: ones that impacted you the most. We're also going to
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Speaker 1: be discussing your childhood music experiences. We dipped into that
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Speaker 1: last week in the exclusive section of the after Party.
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Speaker 1: Lots of you guys responded, a lot of you on Patreon.
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Speaker 1: We're going to get into that as well. We'll be
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Speaker 1: back right after this, all right, guys, six one seven
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Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. You want to
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Speaker 1: send me a voicemail, you want to leave me a text,
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Speaker 1: you want to connect in any way about the question
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Speaker 1: of the week, or just anything in general. That's how
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Speaker 1: you do it. Six one seven nine oh six six
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Speaker 1: six three eight. We asked a questquestion last week. We
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Speaker 1: asked the question this week in relation to me as
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Speaker 1: a pod of which artists that impacted you were taken
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Speaker 1: too young. Let's chick in with the three three four.
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Speaker 3: Hello, mister Jake, it's Mahali. I've been featured on Hollywood
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Speaker 3: Land with mister Death a few times, but hoping this
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Speaker 3: might be the first time on Disgraceland calling in response
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Speaker 3: to the question about artists who died before they got
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Speaker 3: their due. Trying to keep this as short as possible,
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Speaker 3: but I've got.
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Speaker 2: Three for you.
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Speaker 3: Number one for my generation, which is anyone who's an
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Speaker 3: eighties baby grew up on this group and others like it.
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Speaker 3: Sublime and Bradley Noell, that guy, he was gone before
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Speaker 3: what we now know as Sublime became what it is.
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Speaker 3: Number two would be Otis Redding. He passed away right
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Speaker 3: before his hit Sitting on the Dock of the Bay
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Speaker 3: came out. And I think the biggest one overall from
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Speaker 3: all of my life and probably in general when it
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Speaker 3: comes to music as an American, with the Richie Ballens. Dude,
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Speaker 3: he wasn't even eighteen years old, he wasn't even a
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Speaker 3: full grown adult, and you know gone, And today, seventy
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Speaker 3: plus years later, la bamba and his name, his music
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Speaker 3: still still it searched and widely widely loved around the world.
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Speaker 3: So I think above all of the others that I
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Speaker 3: know of, Richie Bellens has to be the top one
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Speaker 3: who was gone before he got his due. He never
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Speaker 3: even got to see adulthood, much less the impact that
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Speaker 3: he had in this musical world. Thank you again, Rock Rolla.
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Speaker 3: Love what you guys do, and I'm looking for forward
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Speaker 3: to some more scripted episodes.
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Speaker 1: Take it easy, guys, three three four, great call, Thanks
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Speaker 1: for reaching out. Happy to get you on Disgrace in
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Speaker 1: here for the first time. Thanks for checking out Hollywood Land.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Yeah, some great choices here. Sublime Bradley Knowle,
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Speaker 1: really interesting. What a grave voice that guy had, just incredible.
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Speaker 1: Would have been awesome to hear. How how he would
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Speaker 1: have matured as a singer and a musician. You also
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Speaker 1: mentioned Otis Redding. That's a big one. That's a huge one.
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Speaker 1: You know, what would the trajectory of Otis Redding have been?
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Speaker 1: What do you have sort of like blasted through the
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Speaker 1: rest of the sixties and the seventies and just kind
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Speaker 1: of well, he did he died. He died in nineteen seventy.
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Speaker 1: Hold on, I gotta figure this out. Nope, nineteen sixty seven.
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Speaker 1: What do you just kind of blasted through those years
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Speaker 1: and spun out in a way that a lot of
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Speaker 1: the sort of R and B and soul singers did,
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Speaker 1: even some of the bigger ones like James Brown, or
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Speaker 1: perhaps would he have cemented himself as a true kind
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Speaker 1: of legacy artist like Ray Charles or Aretha Franklin and
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Speaker 1: have just kind of ascended into this the sort of
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Speaker 1: upper echelon of musicians from his day. I think probably
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Speaker 1: the latter. I think it would have been the Aretha Franklin.
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Speaker 1: Ray Charles wrote. You also mentioned Richie Vallens, and thank
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Speaker 1: you for reminding me. We still haven't produced a Richie
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Speaker 1: Allens episode or Buddy Hally or The Day of the
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Speaker 1: Music Died. I've never been able to figure out, like,
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Speaker 1: do I want to do it about all of them?
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Speaker 1: You know, all this comes up in the Wayland Jennings episode.
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Speaker 1: I want do I want to do it about all
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Speaker 1: of them? Or do I want to do it about
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Speaker 1: each of them? I think I want to do it
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Speaker 1: about each of them because I'm I'm just at least
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Speaker 1: when it comes to Buddy Holly and it comes to Richievillens,
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Speaker 1: I'm just completely interested in both of them as musicians.
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Speaker 1: I think it would it would be limiting to do
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Speaker 1: one story on all three artists, including the big bopper
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Speaker 1: in here as well. I saw Lebamba in the theaters
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Speaker 1: as a kid when it came out, and it just
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Speaker 1: blew me away everything about it. The performances were incredible. God,
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Speaker 1: I can still remember the fascination I had with that
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Speaker 1: stratocaster that is featured in the film. But I think
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Speaker 1: the reason that that movie has stayed with me for
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Speaker 1: so long is those songs. Those Richie Allen songs are
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Speaker 1: just undeniable. They're incredible. Great call three three four, appreciate you.
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Speaker 1: Let's check this recommendation from the three to one seven.
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Speaker 4: Jake Man, you really have to do an episode on
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Speaker 4: the Crayonberries and Delores. You were asking about the best
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Speaker 4: Irish punk band everything. It is easily the crean Berries.
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Speaker 4: I'm not as super fan, but Delores was magical. Her
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Speaker 4: voice was nominated as one of the best voices ever.
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Speaker 1: So please, please, if you.
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Speaker 4: Have it in your heart, I think it's a great story.
20:48
Speaker 4: Her death is tragic, but please let's look up the Crayonberries.
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Speaker 1: All right, three one seven, You've got it. We've got
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Speaker 1: an episode on Dolores from the Cranberry is coming sometime soon.
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Speaker 1: I don't know when, but this is one of those
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Speaker 1: like to me as a pot of that gets this
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Speaker 1: is one of those subjects that just keeps getting recommended
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Speaker 1: to me. I've been hesitant to get into it just
21:09
Speaker 1: because it's so damn sad. Maybe I can convince Zeth
21:12
Speaker 1: to write this one. So I don't know that my
21:14
Speaker 1: headn't it. We shall see, but yes, we're gonna get
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Speaker 1: to Dolores three one seven. Appreciate you see guys, text, call,
21:22
Speaker 1: leave a voicemail, and you know your recommendations, they'll they'll
21:25
Speaker 1: turn into granted wishes. Okay. Now, one of the other
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Speaker 1: questions we were talking about last week, or one of
21:30
Speaker 1: the other topics I should say we were discussing, was
21:33
Speaker 1: the crazy childhood experiences we had with live music, crazy
21:38
Speaker 1: live music experiences we had as teenagers. A lot of
21:42
Speaker 1: that stemming back to the nineties because that's when a
21:45
Speaker 1: lot of us were, you know, out there getting after
21:48
Speaker 1: it for the first time, but can be from any era.
21:50
Speaker 1: We talked a lot about this in the exclusive section
21:54
Speaker 1: of last week's after Party, Zeth and I. Let's dip
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Speaker 1: into this voicemail from the on this topic.
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Speaker 5: Hey, Jake, I love the show. I just wanted to
22:04
Speaker 5: be able to say that, like craziest concerts and best
22:07
Speaker 5: concerts ever been to. First time I saw the Roots
22:10
Speaker 5: as a little hip hop kid in early nineties, seeing
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Speaker 5: all of those live music performances doing hip hop was
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Speaker 5: mind blowing. So The Roots were definitely the best live
22:20
Speaker 5: show I saw. But the craziest was growing up in
22:23
Speaker 5: the town where like was real life Footloose. That's where
22:27
Speaker 5: Footloose was filmed in Utah, seeing like Rage against the
22:31
Speaker 5: Machine come in September of ninety six, and having all
22:35
Speaker 5: of the religious folks like telling their telling their parents,
22:39
Speaker 5: don't let your kids go businesses shuttered up town like
22:43
Speaker 5: this little farm town and a rodeo ground, and having
22:45
Speaker 5: Rage against the Machine come there. No real issues happened
22:49
Speaker 5: at the concert itself. It was a really good show,
22:51
Speaker 5: pretty crazy, but awesome to see. Like the real life
22:55
Speaker 5: situation of religion being terrified of rock and music was
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Speaker 5: pretty awesome. So it might be something you want to
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Speaker 5: check out. Just Rage Against the Machine Spanish Fork, Utah
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Speaker 5: in like September of ninety six.
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Speaker 1: Love the show, rock and Roll eight to one. Thanks
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Speaker 1: for the call. Appreciate you, man, I wish I saw
23:15
Speaker 1: the Roots back in the day. I never saw them.
23:17
Speaker 1: I'd love to see them now. I guess I did
23:19
Speaker 1: share a stage at a festival when I brought Disgraceland
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Speaker 1: to the stage in San Francisco with Black thought that
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Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. Rage against the Machine in
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Speaker 1: ninety six, So you would have caught them in that
23:35
Speaker 1: tiny little town you're from. I guess at at kind
23:39
Speaker 1: of their peak ninety six, I'm pretty sure they were.
23:42
Speaker 1: They were on Malla Blues at that point, are just
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Speaker 1: about to be. I'd seen them a little bit early earlier.
23:47
Speaker 1: I saw them in I think ninety two or ninety three.
23:52
Speaker 1: I definitely saw their first Boston show in a tiny
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Speaker 1: club the Ica and South End, and I saw them.
24:04
Speaker 1: Where else did I see Rage? I think yeah. I
24:06
Speaker 1: definitely saw them at Avalon when it was called Avalon,
24:09
Speaker 1: saw them on On All the Blues as well. Vastly
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Speaker 1: different experience in Boston than it was in your footloose town.
24:15
Speaker 1: But hey, at least you got that crazy experience. Let's
24:17
Speaker 1: do one more voicemail, this one from the two.
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Speaker 2: To oh one Jake, Jeff two one.
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Speaker 6: I just want to say I finally caught up. I've
24:25
Speaker 6: been listening to your podcast for I guess close to
24:27
Speaker 6: a year, but I started at the beginning, so now
24:29
Speaker 6: like I'm all caught up, and I'm pretty happy about that.
24:32
Speaker 6: To address your current question, which rock stars or figures
24:36
Speaker 6: in rock and roll fizzled out or or or died
24:39
Speaker 6: way too young right on the precipice of success, I
24:41
Speaker 6: would say that it's tied between two, both having happened
24:45
Speaker 6: in the late nineties. I would have to say Shannon
24:48
Speaker 6: Hoone with Blind Mellon was kind of hurtful.
24:51
Speaker 2: I thought their music was terrific.
24:53
Speaker 6: They were just about to blow up. They were highly
24:55
Speaker 6: successful at Woodstock and again, you know, drugs, And I
25:00
Speaker 6: would say that after that, it was probably Brad Newell
25:03
Speaker 6: from Sublime, same thing. They had a seminal album that
25:06
Speaker 6: was absolutely phenomenal and groundbreaking, and I guess he celebrated
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Speaker 6: a little too art.
25:13
Speaker 2: And and died. But those two affected me, I don't know,
25:17
Speaker 2: for some reason.
25:17
Speaker 6: They both had a certain vulnert, both the singers had
25:20
Speaker 6: a certain vulnerabilitated.
25:21
Speaker 2: To them that it was really kind of sad.
25:25
Speaker 6: You know, it's really a shame because I think if
25:28
Speaker 6: both of them had lived, their bands would have been
25:30
Speaker 6: wildly successful, probably Sublime more so than Blind Melon, but
25:35
Speaker 6: I kind of think they both would have wildly crazy success,
25:39
Speaker 6: and it's really as a shame. Love the show and
25:42
Speaker 6: I'll look forward to talking to you again.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jeff, Thanks so much for the call. I
25:46
Speaker 1: hear you man both there is a similarity team Shannon
25:50
Speaker 1: Shannon Huon from Blind Melon and Brad from Sublime. That
25:54
Speaker 1: and that that tie, the vulnerability tie that you mentioned.
25:58
Speaker 1: I think I think you're honest something there. I think
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Speaker 1: it's I think it's a big part of it's subtle,
26:04
Speaker 1: but it's there and their persona, and I also think,
26:08
Speaker 1: perhaps more importantly, it's it's part of what attracted music
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Speaker 1: listeners to them. It's part of what made them relatable
26:14
Speaker 1: as rock stars. And I also agree with you that
26:17
Speaker 1: I think of the two, I think I don't know
26:21
Speaker 1: if I think that that Sublime and Brad Bradley know
26:26
Speaker 1: would have had a more successful career, but at least
26:29
Speaker 1: it would have been I think it's one that I'm
26:31
Speaker 1: more interested in having seen progress. And again, I just
26:36
Speaker 1: think that guy was a really really great singer. Not
26:39
Speaker 1: a great singer, but just had a great voice, and
26:41
Speaker 1: it would have been super cool to just hear what
26:43
Speaker 1: became of that, especially because the scene he came from,
26:47
Speaker 1: that southern California kind of punk scene. Just kind of
26:51
Speaker 1: a compelling dude. Appreciate the call. Thanks for calin. Glad
26:53
Speaker 1: you're all caught up with Disgraceland. It's a lot of episodes.
26:57
Speaker 1: Six one seven, nine, six six six three eight. Voicemail
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Speaker 1: text four one six Jason rights in, Hey, I submitted
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Speaker 1: my Iced Tea Montreal encounter through the portal plus two codas.
27:09
Speaker 1: Sorry so long. I could shorten it, but then it
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Speaker 1: would only be an anecdote. Feel free to edit if
27:14
Speaker 1: you use it. Thanks for making this interactive rock and rolla.
27:17
Speaker 1: Jason in the four to one six is a Patreon subscriber,
27:20
Speaker 1: and Jason I know had some weird run in with
27:24
Speaker 1: iced Tea as a teenager, I believe, and he teased
27:28
Speaker 1: it out on Patreon, said it was it was too
27:31
Speaker 1: rough and rowdy to share there, and he was gonna
27:33
Speaker 1: hit me up six one seven nine oh sixty six
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Speaker 1: six three eight, and he hit me up. But now
27:36
Speaker 1: it's looking like I guess, he said. He sent it
27:38
Speaker 1: through the portal plus two codas. This is a long tease, Jason,
27:42
Speaker 1: I imagine you talking about emailing you and check that out,
27:44
Speaker 1: Lauren Griffin writes in through the email portal, I guess
27:48
Speaker 1: I'm in the email portal, Jason. I can't find anything, dude. Anyways,
27:51
Speaker 1: Lauren here writes, Hey Jake, my name is Lauren and
27:53
Speaker 1: I started listening to Disgrace And in November twenty twenty
27:56
Speaker 1: four when I was living in Vancouver, Canada. Since then,
27:58
Speaker 1: I have traveled the world, back home to Ireland and
28:01
Speaker 1: even got an engaged Congratulations Lauren on your engagement. That's
28:05
Speaker 1: pretty awesome, Lauren goes hones say. I'm so happy to
28:07
Speaker 1: say I finally caught up and I'm finally up to
28:10
Speaker 1: speed with the latest episodes. You were my most listened
28:12
Speaker 1: to podcasts last year. It'll probably be the most listened
28:15
Speaker 1: to this year. Or maybe it'll be Hollywood Land because
28:17
Speaker 1: I'm moving on to that next Anyways, just wanted to say,
28:19
Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing in Hello from the Emerald
28:22
Speaker 1: Island Love Lauren ps. My fiance lived in Boston for
28:26
Speaker 1: a year and is obsessed with the place that it's
28:28
Speaker 1: sports teams. He loves the New England Patriots and is
28:30
Speaker 1: staying up until four am tonight tomorrow to watch the
28:33
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Go Pats. Lauren appreciate this, Thanks for the
28:37
Speaker 1: message all the way from Ireland. Happy you're a listener.
28:41
Speaker 1: Happy you're engaged as well. Enjoy the engagement, Enjoy the nuptials.
28:46
Speaker 1: Hit us back, let us know how it went. And hey,
28:48
Speaker 1: you know I you know I've I've officiated some weddings
28:50
Speaker 1: in my day. Just throwing that out there for you, Lauren.
28:53
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Six one seven nine oh
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Speaker 1: six six six three eight voice on text. You guys
29:01
Speaker 1: want to get at me about anything at all, you
29:03
Speaker 1: can also hit me up on Patreon. We're gonna get
29:05
Speaker 1: into some of your some of your responses on Patreon
29:09
Speaker 1: regarding your childhood experiences with live music. Will also hit
29:14
Speaker 1: up some reviews.
29:16
Speaker 4: And I have.
29:17
Speaker 1: Got a big pile of crow to eat regarding my
29:22
Speaker 1: new England Patriots coming up right after this. I don't
29:47
Speaker 1: know if you heard that. I just I just spilt
29:50
Speaker 1: water all over my desk, wiping it off with the
29:55
Speaker 1: sleeve of my flannel shirt right now. This is the
29:57
Speaker 1: second spilled water of the d Also have myself a
30:02
Speaker 1: flat tire this morning, so I'm dealing with that it's
30:05
Speaker 1: been a morning, guys, it's been a morning. But you
30:07
Speaker 1: know what, I don't care. I'm grateful. I got nothing
30:10
Speaker 1: but gratitude because this here is the greatest music community
30:15
Speaker 1: on the Internet and off the internet, if I do
30:18
Speaker 1: say so myself. Now, some of you may know, or
30:23
Speaker 1: all of you may know, I'm not sure that we
30:24
Speaker 1: offer exclusive content to our all access members, like the
30:29
Speaker 1: all access section of this after party, whereas thatth and
30:33
Speaker 1: I will be discussing Kirk Cobean's suicide and the theory
30:38
Speaker 1: that he was murdered, and we're gonna poke some holes
30:40
Speaker 1: in that theory. But last week we were talking about
30:42
Speaker 1: wild concerts from our childhood that was brought on by
30:47
Speaker 1: our coverage of Jane's addiction. Got a ton of comments
30:52
Speaker 1: on Patreon on this topic, and that's that's the best
30:56
Speaker 1: part about Patreon, guys, is the community aspect of it. Okay,
30:59
Speaker 1: if you've been on the about joining Patreon, I'm not
31:02
Speaker 1: gonna make this some big sell. I'm just gonna tell you.
31:05
Speaker 1: I love engaging with the listeners over there. It's the
31:08
Speaker 1: best getting to know you guys. I love how you
31:11
Speaker 1: guys engage with each other. That's pretty incredible. There's talk
31:15
Speaker 1: circulating about a meetup this year for all of us.
31:17
Speaker 1: Not sure what we're gonna do or where, but I
31:20
Speaker 1: love that, and I just love that we've got this
31:22
Speaker 1: community over there and right now. The topic of discussion
31:25
Speaker 1: is all of your wild experiences as kids with live
31:30
Speaker 1: music back in the nineties, some of the eighties, some
31:33
Speaker 1: of the seventies. Roxane am write's craziest experience in a word,
31:37
Speaker 1: guar Okay, I get it. I get that, Roxanne, I
31:40
Speaker 1: get it. Kimberly Harris writes, got dragged to a Kiss
31:44
Speaker 1: concert one of maybe three people at this whole show,
31:46
Speaker 1: my friend three people. I don't think she means three people,
31:50
Speaker 1: she says. My friend Kelly had been part of Kiss
31:52
Speaker 1: Nation since she was four. I did move when spewed
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Speaker 1: blood on by Gene, and I definitely moved. I went
31:58
Speaker 1: backstage to meet them, and Kelly and her sister lost it.
32:01
Speaker 1: Half naked and naked women everywhere, and I am the
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Speaker 1: only black person all caps, So I definitely was out
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Speaker 1: of my element in the music in the crowd. But
32:09
Speaker 1: the band was super nice, and I was asked by
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Speaker 1: Gene Simmons playfully how the hell it was that I
32:14
Speaker 1: was at this concert let alone backstage, and my response
32:19
Speaker 1: was that I was dragged along for a girl's night out.
32:21
Speaker 1: I had a good time, but my friend Kelly and
32:23
Speaker 1: her sister had to be pulled together repeatedly. Kelly's sister
32:27
Speaker 1: did get her all right, I'm getting into that party.
32:30
Speaker 1: Thank Kimberly's got the best stories. Appreciate you. Becky Johnson. Right, Hey,
32:34
Speaker 1: I did get kicked in the face at a Rollins
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Speaker 1: band show. I learned quick that if I was standing
32:37
Speaker 1: in front of the stage to grab the stage driver
32:39
Speaker 1: by the ankles and help them over my face. Were
32:41
Speaker 1: you even alive in the nineties if you were not
32:44
Speaker 1: kicked in the face with a combat boot at a
32:47
Speaker 1: Henry Rowlands show? At a Rollins ban show, Jason Ramsey
32:50
Speaker 1: teases out his iced tea experience. Still looking for that
32:53
Speaker 1: email through the portal, Jason, I'll report back once I
32:55
Speaker 1: get it. Guys, get on the Patreon chat. You don't
32:58
Speaker 1: need to sign up for five bucks be part of
32:59
Speaker 1: the t You can sign up for a dollar to
33:01
Speaker 1: be part of the chat. Okay, just the buck and
33:03
Speaker 1: you get access to the Disgraceline community to get over there.
33:06
Speaker 1: Get in on that action, and if you can't support financially,
33:09
Speaker 1: we get it. You can always support by leaving a review.
33:12
Speaker 1: Oftentimes I will read some of the reviews back here
33:16
Speaker 1: to you guys on the show, and when I do,
33:19
Speaker 1: that's a signal to you to get in touch six
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Speaker 1: one seven nine oh sixty sixty six three eight voicemail
33:23
Speaker 1: in text and let me know that you heard your review.
33:26
Speaker 1: And at that point I will ask you a couple
33:29
Speaker 1: questions and I'll get you some merch as a nice
33:31
Speaker 1: little thank you. It's a nice little token of my appreciation.
33:33
Speaker 1: Now I can't I can't say exactly what that merch
33:36
Speaker 1: might be, but I'm looking at some stickers here on
33:38
Speaker 1: my desk and some pins. I've got some shirts. I
33:40
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of stuff that was just on earthed.
33:41
Speaker 1: I know I was supposed to mail this stuff out
33:43
Speaker 1: last week. I did not do that. I ended up
33:46
Speaker 1: going to New England for the Super Bowl, and I
33:49
Speaker 1: am I am delayed. What can I say, I'm having
33:51
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm having myself a little bit of
33:53
Speaker 1: a day here. I had a couple of water and
33:56
Speaker 1: coffee malfunctions, and I got a I got a flat
33:58
Speaker 1: tire and waiting on a tow truck. Come by my house,
34:02
Speaker 1: pick up my car, bring it to the dealership. But
34:04
Speaker 1: I will get merch out shortly to the winners. If
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Speaker 1: the show and we are super appreciative of it. Disgraceful. M.
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Speaker 1: Smith nine five seventy nine on Apple podcast Rights. Hey,
34:24
Speaker 1: thanks for all the great content and stories. I'm really
34:26
Speaker 1: appreciative of the music that I have been exposed to
34:28
Speaker 1: because of your platform. I'll go to Apple Music and
34:30
Speaker 1: look up artists that have been subject matter on the show.
34:33
Speaker 1: I've gotten into more punk and hardcore and I've always
34:35
Speaker 1: been a thrash medal guy and this just adds to
34:37
Speaker 1: my life. Keep it coming. Thank you. M. Smith nine
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Speaker 1: five seven nine. I love that happy you're getting exposed
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Speaker 1: to new music because of Disgraceland. Check out me as
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Speaker 1: a pot in the gits if you have not already,
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Speaker 1: and X ten and xt in on Spotify Rights. I
34:52
Speaker 1: just want to say how much I love this podcast.
34:55
Speaker 1: I'm such a music girl and as much as I
34:57
Speaker 1: think I know about artists and their stories, you always
34:59
Speaker 1: give me some cool new info. I love sharing with
35:01
Speaker 1: my friends. Thank you, thank you, thank you. You know what.
35:05
Speaker 1: That's what it's all about, getting this new information, new stories,
35:09
Speaker 1: having something to talk about with our fellow music obsessives,
35:12
Speaker 1: whether it's in the Patreon chat, whether it's at the barbecue,
35:15
Speaker 1: whether it's at your next dinner party, whether it's wherever
35:18
Speaker 1: you're standing on the side of the soccer field talking
35:21
Speaker 1: to a mom or dad, and I don't know, maybe
35:23
Speaker 1: they're wearing a Sublime shirt. You want to tell them
35:26
Speaker 1: a little bit about your knowledge of Bradley Nole that
35:27
Speaker 1: you heard here on Disgraceland. We like to say that
35:31
Speaker 1: this is the podcast that'll make you dangerous at dinner parties.
35:35
Speaker 1: I got to call this out. February thirteenth, that's this week.
35:38
Speaker 1: That was the date back in twenty eighteen. However, February thirteenth,
35:44
Speaker 1: twenty eighteenth, that we released our first ever episode of Disgraceland.
35:51
Speaker 1: That means this podcast is eight years old this week,
35:55
Speaker 1: eight years old. I cannot believe that I was talking
35:59
Speaker 1: to somebody the podcast industry a couple of weeks ago.
36:01
Speaker 1: And she referred to me as a veteran of the
36:03
Speaker 1: podcast industry. A veteran. I didn't like it. To be
36:08
Speaker 1: honest with you, I don't feel like a veteran. I mean,
36:11
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I've been in this for that long.
36:13
Speaker 1: Everything still feels new to me. Honestly, it all feels
36:16
Speaker 1: like it's growing. I'm still finding ways to be inspired.
36:19
Speaker 1: I'm still finding stories that inspire me, that make them
36:22
Speaker 1: want to crack the books, get under the hood. I'm
36:25
Speaker 1: Zeth Matt myself. We're still we're still totally compelled to
36:30
Speaker 1: find unique ways to tell these stories, to to do
36:33
Speaker 1: so with audio, to do so with music, scoring, with
36:37
Speaker 1: sound design, and the more of you that come into
36:39
Speaker 1: the space that are new, the more of you that
36:42
Speaker 1: may be listening and decide, Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna
36:44
Speaker 1: get involved with the disgrace and community with the discos.
36:47
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna just you know, I just gonna
36:48
Speaker 1: go in there and share, share a little bit about myself,
36:50
Speaker 1: ask some questions on the Patreon or on Instagram or wherever.
36:54
Speaker 1: The more that happens, it just it's fuel, and it
36:57
Speaker 1: makes everything feel fresh and new and itsiting, and it's
37:01
Speaker 1: the greatest job in the world. I was born to
37:03
Speaker 1: do this. So is thatth So is Matt. They're both
37:06
Speaker 1: uniquely talented to bring something special and incredible to Disgrace
37:12
Speaker 1: and to what we do here, to the storytelling. And
37:15
Speaker 1: it is a new year and we've got some awesome
37:18
Speaker 1: stuff in the works for you in twenty twenty six,
37:22
Speaker 1: really going to push everything further than we ever have
37:26
Speaker 1: before creatively. You're gonna be very excited, I promise you.
37:31
Speaker 1: Just wanted to say thank you to all you listeners.
37:34
Speaker 1: Eight years. I can't believe it. I don't even know
37:35
Speaker 1: how many episodes we have eight years. That's crazy. We
37:38
Speaker 1: got to be around two hundred and sixty episodes at
37:40
Speaker 1: this point. Anyways, much love, much gratitude, Thank you very much.
37:45
Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Stop by Patreon, say hello or just give
37:47
Speaker 1: me a call six one seven nine oh six six
37:49
Speaker 1: six three eight, say what's up? Send me a voicemail. Listen.
37:52
Speaker 1: I gotta eat some crow here, all right. I got
37:55
Speaker 1: to look, I had all the shit talk in my
37:58
Speaker 1: mouth last week when it came to the Patriots, not
38:02
Speaker 1: the Patriots, the patriots in the Seattle Seahawks. My goodness, man,
38:09
Speaker 1: that game kicked my ass. Kick the Patriots ass. Actually,
38:12
Speaker 1: if I'm being for being for being real about it, So, Matt,
38:15
Speaker 1: before I go any further, let's get this ready. Okay,
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38:41
Speaker 1: Seahawks fans, congratulations. Patriots haters, go f yourself. We will
38:48
Speaker 1: be back. You know what, I can't even go to
38:51
Speaker 1: we'll be back yet. I just gotta. I gotta again.
38:52
Speaker 1: I talked so much crap about this, I just have
38:55
Speaker 1: to say congrats to the Seahawks fans. I was wrong.
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Speaker 1: I thought our coach and our quarterback would overcome what
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Speaker 1: was playing to me as a better team that was
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks. But that did not happen. We got our
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Speaker 1: butts handed to us. We were outmanned, we were out played,
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Speaker 1: we were out coached. It was a supreme butt kicking,
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Speaker 1: and you know, what. I'm not ashamed to say it
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Speaker 1: because we've lost Super Bowls in the past. Here in
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Speaker 1: New England, we've probably lost more Super Bowls and a
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Speaker 1: lot of other franchises have even played in. We're up
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Speaker 1: to six losses now, okay, and I know we're also
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Speaker 1: six wins, so I know, I know, I know we'll
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Speaker 1: be back. I know we'll be back. And the Pats,
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Speaker 1: I believe maybe playing in Seattle next year. I think
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Speaker 1: the AFC East plays the NFC West next year. I
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Speaker 1: could be wrong. If that's the case, Shay Simpson, I
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Speaker 1: will see you out there and I will buy you
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Speaker 1: some drinks at whatever your stadium's called. I've always wanted
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Speaker 1: to go to that stadium. I always wanted to do.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot as a handful of stadiums always wanted
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Speaker 1: to go to. That's one of them. So maybe next
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Speaker 1: year will be be the time. And to make up
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Speaker 1: to make up for my sports sins to my Seattle brethren,
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