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Championship Edition - R.E.M. Pt 1 · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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Oh yeah, R.E.M. rapid eye movement is what it stands for.
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If you, in case you didn't know, it's championship edition.
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And you know, I, I don't have a real fancy, you know, intro to
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these. I just kind of hop in, John.
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You're the man when it comes to these things.
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I said the exact same thing on the, on the, the Radiohead.
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Like you're, you're, you know, very central and getting them
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together and, and getting the list together.
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We just kind of went over the original 10 right before we went
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on. Is this more of a, hey, these
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guys got it wrong or is this more, hey, they need more love
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for R.E.M. I think it's a little bit of
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both, but first, it's it's not rapid eye movement.
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R.E.M. was very clear in saying like they just, they wanted a
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nondescript, easy to remember name.
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Like they they specifically said it, it was not necessarily that,
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but yeah, I think it's. You know, and, and, and two
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again, thanks for letting us do this.
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Like I, I love being a part of these are so fun to get to like
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really dig into one band over a period of time and like go
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through the whole thing and you get to play like we're going to
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play 4 rounds and it's, and then we're going to have a finals.
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And these are just so fun. So thanks for letting me be a
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part of it again. But I think it's more the
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original list was maybe a little too narrow and with their
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career, they were so consistent. You know, from the beginning to
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the end, I just think I want to see if we can like get more of
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just the breadth of the the whole career because you know,
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you guys did the whole thing and try to cram it into one thing.
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I just want to see if we can maybe dig in and some of the
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some of the some of the gems that maybe weren't some songs
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that that would jump out to people at first, see if some of
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those can have a chance to fit in.
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And I just think they. They're, they're almost
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underappreciated, which sounds crazy now, you know, nearly 15
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years after they've broken up. But they had a little bit of a
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resurgence, you know, last year when they did reunite for the
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one song. But yeah, I mean, I think they,
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it's, it's going to really be fun to just dig into their whole
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catalog and really give, give it some time to, to dig into every
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record and really, you know, see what stands out.
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Peter, you may have been a a flag bearer for, you know, flag
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waiver for getting a radio or R.E.M. championship edition.
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Going after the pain of going through a Radiohead Championship
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edition, why would you volunteer for doing yet another one?
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And why R.E.M.? I think it was a little bit of
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fear of missing out from not being on the panel for the first
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one because I would love to talk about this band and.
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It's just a good opportunity to go through their whole
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discography because like John said, like they were really,
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really consistent. Like, I think there's only maybe
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one album that most fans would agree that's kind of a clunker.
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But like, everything else is like rock solid.
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And I was just looking forward to like just going through all
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these songs together and like, they're just such a great band.
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And like, they've been so influential to like, so many
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other bands and. There's they're still in the
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conversation of pop culture. I think.
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I mean, they had a resurgence last year when they reunited.
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But like their music has also been heavily featured in the
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bear. Some people be kind of checking
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that, checking them out from that.
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So they're worthy band to do a championship edition about.
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For sure, Gavin, I remember when the Radiohead once started
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pouring out you're you're pretty amped on on the whole concept of
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it. And you jumped at the chance
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when R.E.M. popped up. So why?
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Why is this where you wanted to get in on a on a championship
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edition? Yeah, thanks for having me.
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I love the format the championship editions have been.
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We're so fun to listen to, and R.E.M. was just one of the bands
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that was in my wheelhouse that. I think that kind of what
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everybody said, it was a good opportunity.
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Like I've listened to R.E.M. since 83 and like it was a good
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opportunity to just do it deep dive and kind of like reassess
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their whole career over the last like couple months as we've been
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preparing for this. And it was really rewarding and
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like really fun and what a what a band.
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What a band is right in the So Chris, we're we're moving to
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you. But like, regular episodes are
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painful enough, friend. Yeah, yeah.
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Why? What made you sign on for for
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something like this, with, with, with this breath?
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Is it just I am? I honestly don't recall like
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saying oh hey, I'd love to do. I probably did say yeah, I'd
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love to do an R.E.M. Championship edition at at some
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point in the chat. I don't remember ever saying
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that, but because I was, I was kind of surprised when I was
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like added to the, the, the list of the champion.
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I was like, oh shit, this is something that I can do.
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Yeah. I love this because I mean, I
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like I loved R.E.M. I haven't listened to them in
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years, years, probably since the mid 90s here on and off, but not
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like regularly, but in the 80s. Like mid to late 80s and early
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90s, I was all about R.E.M. I forgot how much I loved this
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band until I went through a lot of these playlists.
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So I was very happy to be a part of this and just remember how
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much I used to love this band and still love this band.
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I just haven't been into them for a long time.
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There were two or three albums I honestly never even listened to.
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Like these were new to me albums, which was it was nice to
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discover. Stuff that I hadn't heard in the
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past, but yeah, I was. I was very happy to do this.
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I'm looking forward to it. It's my first championship
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edition and it's a great band to to kick it off with.
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Cool, that means I I, I volunteered.
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I swear I thought it came up in chat and that's why I added you
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but. I'm, I'm sure I probably said it
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somewhere. I just like I said, you know,
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my, my brain doesn't work like it used to.
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I think so I'm. Sure that I said yeah I would
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love to do that, and then probably forgot about it until
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it came up. Yeah, I, you know, I think we
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can all, you know, agree on some.
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Now somebody I know for a fact did sign up.
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Brian, you're going to be rounding out.
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Panel today R.E.M. is this is this kind of like what Peter
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said fear of missing out on on the first one.
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So you you kind of wanted a right to ship or or how did what
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made you sign up for a championship edition for this?
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Yeah, they were. I, I missed out on a lot of like
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the 90s and bands that you guys did because I wasn't, I wasn't
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around five years ago. Six years ago.
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Yeah, it's OK. But so it was great to, you
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know, get into talking about a band, you know, that I've that I
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would have done a show on. Obviously, you know, this is a
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band like I got, you know, I got kind of into in the early 90s
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and then, you know, they were kind of just like a radio hit
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band for me. And then about, I don't know, 10
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years ago or so, I started. Probably when streaming started,
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I started taking deep dive and just like fell in love with
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their with their back catalog and, you know, got to listen to
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stuff that and you know, get to listen to, you know, back when
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it came out because I was just a young in.
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But now it was, you know, a great opportunity to talk about
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really like very almost like underappreciated.
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I think these days for like what they did for music.
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And for indie music, especially back in the 80s.
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I so in defense, I always like to kind of defend the original
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panelist as as is always the case, at least currently, This
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was a very early episode. We did this in the the garage.
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So that means it was within probably that first summer of
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the radio station being a thing. I had no idea what the show was
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going to be. I had no idea.
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I, I didn't even think to put parameters on on what we were
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going to cover to make it easier.
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So we did cover all 11. I mean, it's hard to come away
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with a bad top ten list, but I it's also not.
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It was four people that all had very had very different entering
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phases has been has been noted a million times everywhere.
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I'm a huge monster guy and I that being said, the point I'm
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trying to make is I'm so happy to not be playing tonight.
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I I'm so glad that you guys are are are doing the hard work and
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I I get to just kind of pilot. That being said, like I pointed
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this out, John, like you're you're kind of the guy who puts.
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The albums together like to decide which phases are which.
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We're doing phase one tonight. What all went into how you
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decided what we were going to cover for Part 1?
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Yeah, well, I'm not only that guy, but I'm also the Athens
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guy. Like I consider.
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You know, Athens, my, my hometown, even though I wasn't
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born there, I like, I went to school there, lived there for
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seven or eight years and, you know, really got to love Athens
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as a but I still love going back there, even though I live in
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Atlanta now. And like going by there like you
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would, I'd, I'd, you know, at least to live down the street
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from Michael Stipe, you'd see Mike Mills come into the bar,
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you know, late at night. I'd, you'd, you'd see them like
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hanging around town and stuff, so.
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This is this is close to my heart as well, so that I I have
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a little bit it's it pulls at the heartstrings a little bit.
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But for Part 1, actually breaking up R.E.M.'s
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catalog into four parts is. Very, very easy because they do
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have, I think 4 distinct eras of the band, like the they're
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early, like artistic growth period where you go from, you
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know, chronic town up through, you know, life rich pageant
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fables that reconstruction. And then they switch into this
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kind of period of commercial success and with like document
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and green out of time, automatic for the people.
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Then, you know, what do you do after commercial success?
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Like they get into like more of an experimental phase, like.
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So what can we do now that we're superstars?
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You get into monster, you know where they're going to we're
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going to go glam. They got new adventures in
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hi-fi. Hey, let's record an album of
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sound checks. Then, you know, Bill Berry has
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to leave the band. They get into some more
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electronic stuff. And then you get the last phase
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of like the legacy phase where you know, they they they're
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established as artists. They're they're kind of just
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seeing what they can do, you know, as as you ride out to the
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to their unfortunate breakup in in 2011.
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So it it worked. Got really well to break it up
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into four parts, so I tried to get one album from every era in
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each group. So we get we get kind of a good
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representation of each one. So this one's going to be
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Murmur, Green Monster, Around the Sun, and then a few B sides
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sprinkled in. R.E.M. doesn't have a lot of
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like of the really good B sides that a lot of like the 80s and
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90s bands had, but there are a few sprinkled in that are
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worthwhile I think. So, so when you're looking at
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at, at that group of of music, what are you looking to pluck
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out here for for this first part and to to bounce against
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everybody as far as song selection.
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What do you mean? Yeah, I don't know, like.
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Picking your 20. Oh, OK, yeah, it's just.
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I mean, I, I have the, you know, the same kind of, I guess
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baggage with monster that everybody does is like, that was
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the record, you know, when I was a teenager that came out and
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then it became kind of this albatross that's like, oh, it's,
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it's like it's the you can find 800 copies of it in every UCD
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store. And like, so like what, how does
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that hold up, you know? 30 years later, now that you
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know, that the album's been out and then around the sun, like
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Peter mentioned, like, oh, you know, there's one that people
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consider kind of the the least of them.
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Like that's around the sun. Like let's give, let's give
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around the sun a chance to to hang in with these, with these
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other records and see how that plays out.
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And then of course, you know, Murmur is the the debut, the
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classic. Like there's so many songs off
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of Murmur that you could pick. And then of course, Green is
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sitting there like, Oh yeah, I had a bunch of really good.
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Hit songs too, so yeah, this one's going to.
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Be tough, Peter first, I mean, again, none of the none of these
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rounds are going to be easy. But when you're looking at round
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one like what are you, what are you looking to to bring to the
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table today? Like I kind of noticed how John
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took out like 4 phases, so I kind of tried to represent each
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of the four phases with my list. But God damn, this was so hard
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because like with the exception of around the sun, like these
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are really great albums. So it was really hard to cut
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stuff like Murmur is a classic monster.
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I monster I liked, but I was I was an automatic for the people
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guy. But I did like monster Green is
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like them like starting to hit their commercial stride.
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And then there's a couple songs that were sprinkled in that I
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think. Deserve to be part of, you know,
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the Canon, which we'll get into later.
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So Gavin, like, was this again, this being your first
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Championship edition, is there a different mind mindset you have
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to get in for song selection? I loved it.
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It felt like you could really focus, you know, and not have to
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accordion, you know, So many records and years.
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It's a lot harder. This was easier.
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To break it up and I appreciate how John I thought it was really
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smart how he split it. I guess I would say that like
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round one was the worst for me by a mile, but by like way more
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than the other ones. I mean it had three of my
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favorite records in it and I don't know how you I mean, dude,
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I feel bad for any album that had to go up against murmur and
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you know, keep in mind like. How old I am, I mean, if you,
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you know, there's an old thing about R.E.M. fans.
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Are you, you know, are you from the IRS or the Warrior years?
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You know, and I'm like, dude, I grew up in the IRS years.
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And so like, so I just, I would have taken so many more songs
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off Green and Monster if they weren't up against Murmur.
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But I love Green and monster. So it was really like. 3
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heavyweights in the ring together.
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It was really difficult for me. What do you think, Chris?
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Like you kind of gave a chuckle there.
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Like it's maybe you, you kind of had a had a similar feeling.
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Yeah, I mean as as as an old person prob.
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I don't know how old everyone is.
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I'm probably the oldest of everyone here.
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Maybe not. I don't know everybody.
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'S I'm 90, I'm 93. You got me beat.
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You got me beat. I lost my train of thought
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anyways. Yeah, this was this was a good
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rat. It was interesting because I I
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had to get myself out of the mindset of putting together a
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playlist where we're trying to win somebody over to the band.
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That's usually in the back of my mind whenever I'm listening to
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any band is. I'm trying to get myself into
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the headset of somebody who's never listened to them before.
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But in this I was just like, well, I can just pick what I
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like. Yeah, which means my lists will
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probably be very different than a lot of others, But it made it
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a lot easier to pick songs and to make cuts.
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This was a tough list because I stopped listening to R.E.M.
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probably, I think after Monster. I don't think I listened to
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anything after. In the mid 90s, but green and
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murmur, I mean, those are, are, are huge on my list.
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I'm a big out of time guy. That was my favorite record.
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So that'll come into play in Part 3.
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But I, I, I didn't have a lot of a lot of trouble coming up with
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a list. It's probably most of my lists
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are probably going to lean heavy towards the earlier stuff, but
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we'll, we'll see how it rolls out.
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Brian, is there a different mindset like when you're looking
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at like Chris already kind of spoke to it?
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Did you attack this a different way than you do a normal
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episode? Yeah, I mean, even when I do
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regular episodes, like I tried to take like, like the best
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songs, you know? I mean, I and from what I
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gathered from the other championship editions, like
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that's what we're trying to do here.
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We're trying to find like the best songs.
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It was tough this time, you know, it, it, it, it sounds like
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it sounds like, you know, we have, you know, three guys in
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their mid 40s and then a couple guys who were not so, so that's.
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Again, 93 mid. Mid 40s.
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Oh my God I wish. Me too.
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So I mean, that could be tough. So I I, I was a little rough
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with monster again, you know, you know, like like Peter and
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John, this came out when I was a teenager.
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You know, I was, you know, I was 14 in 94.
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So like, you know, that was the one, you know, that and document
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out of time are the ones that I kind of gravitated more towards.
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So it, it, it was tough like I, I just tried to pick what I
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thought was the best songs to go forward.
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A little controversial of a, of a face here we have, you know,
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1, you know, one album that's considered, I think by most
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R.E.M. fans, like maybe not just their worst record, but just a
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bad record. And then, you know, we have the
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controversial monster, which, you know, you know, people, you
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know, people who were strict R.E.M. fans weren't big on the
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sound. To me, it was great because I
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was a teenager. So and then, you know, Green, I
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kind of knew just from the just from the radio songs back in the
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90s. And then, you know, I I grew to
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to like it years later. And for me, Murmur was the most
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of of going back. I was, you know, again, I was
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1494, so I was, you know, 3 and 83.
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So it was, it was a little, it was a little tough to, but you
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know, I, I got into a couple years ago and I've kind of grown
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to it so. I, I want to point out at at
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this, this point that my dad was a huge R.E.M.
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I know I, I have no bearing on the gameplay here, but my dad
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was a huge R.E.M. fan and like I kind of knew some of this stuff
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in passing. You know, I, I said this on on
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the original episode is like the murmurs, the greens.
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My dad had cassettes of those and I remember him listening to
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those in the car. And you know, when, when I think
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about things like that, it's like, man, I wish I was the 6th
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person here so I could kind of chime in.
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But no, I'm very, very, very glad to have zero pressure on me
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and to be able to go to the one. All right, John, we're going to
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start. Where would you like to start
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here? What do you want to throw out
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first? Yeah, I'm tempted to to just
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turn this thing upside down and and go with something weird
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weird. But I'm gonna start.
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I got to start at Murmur and this.
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The song has been one of my probably most listened to songs
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over the past couple years. It's probably my favorite song
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on Murmur right now. Let's try sitting still.
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All right, Peter. I've I've got it.
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All right. Gavin Oh yeah, great choice.
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Great choice. Chris.
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Yes. And Brian?
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Yep. Oh, right.
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That's a good way to start. Let me queue that up here first.
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Queue that up. Wasn't expecting that.
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I did not expect the unanimous sun standing still or sitting
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still. I did not.
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That's cool, because great, that means we're going to be.
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We might be in for a wild one. All right, one down, 9 to go.
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Peter, where you want to go? I'm gonna go to Monster and I'm
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gonna go to probably my favorite song on Monster, which saying
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your favorite song is always a bad thing on this show.
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I'm gonna go with the strange currencies.
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Very good. Yes, All right.
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That's a lovely song all. Right.
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So Gavin gives the yes Chris. I do not.
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OK, Bryant. Sorry dude.
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Yep, I have it and John. Yes.
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Oh, that's not bad, all right. A four, you know, a four on the
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first round, Yeah. Oh, and when that came in on the
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The Bear trailer, it was like, Oh yeah, I love the song so
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much. Yeah, maybe.
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Maybe if I had watched the Bear it might have been on my list,
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but I have not. Yet yeah, it's good.
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This is worth it for the soundtrack if nothing else.
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All right, Gavin. God, I just want to say thank
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God you put around the sun in round one because there was
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another like there was a fourth like.
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Oh, I know, I know. Yeah.
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Like, I was like, that was the only relief, you know?
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I was like, OK, cool. I'm going to come out with with
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Bad Day, man. Like, I love that song.
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That little single from 2003. All right, it's a bad day,
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Kevin. Chris.
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Yeah, I got it. Oh, Brian.
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Yep. Oh, John.
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Yeah, I think that was originally a song from the mid
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80s that they brought back. Yeah, I love that one.
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Nice. Peter, No pressure.
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I am so sorry I. Don't know.
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It's cool. It's.
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Cool. All right, We'll take that four.
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We'll take that 4. All right, Chris.
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I, I mean, I got to say, as always, everybody has their own
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opinions. There's no wrong answers.
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I, because I'm, I'm guilty of it too.
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I always go, Oh my God, I'm sorry I didn't have that song,
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but it's OK. It's OK to not have somebody's
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song. I'm going to just throw that out
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there because I don't want us all feeling bad.
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We'll see. We'll see how it goes.
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Wait, wait. Wait till we get to round. 3:00
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and 4:00. And see how.
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You feel round. Four, we may hate each other,
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but for now. I mean I only had room for 20 so
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I mean stuff had to go. Let's be cool.
24:39
I'm going to go ahead and start with the first song I ever heard
24:42
which made me fall in love with on Radio Free Europe.
24:46
All right, Brian. Yes.
24:50
All right, John. Yes, of course.
24:55
Peter. Absolutely.
24:58
And Gavin? Oh yeah.
25:01
There we go. Yeah, again, you kind of.
25:05
Have it's it's yeah yeah exactly I know it was a no brainer I
25:09
wanted to start off strong cuz I didn't want to break my heart in
25:12
round one and. You did the thing.
25:15
Yeah, you did the thing though again, like the thing didn't
25:18
exist when we first we first did this.
25:21
Right. Yeah.
25:23
The thing is always the thing, and that is definitely the thing
25:28
for for R.E.M. Hold on.
25:33
I'm. Trying to do 2 things at once.
25:38
It's all good. Too often my favorite song gets
25:41
like I'm the only one on it so and I knew this one was not
25:45
going to be one of those, but good to get it out of the way.
25:49
Yeah, yeah. I mean, you take the freebies
25:51
when you can absolutely. Let me throw sitting Still on
25:55
that list 2 real quick. All right, so Chris went with
26:03
Radio Feud Free Europe. Easy for me to say, Brian.
26:09
Oh geez, let's go to green. No one did green yet.
26:15
Let's do. I'm just going to do like easy
26:19
green here. So go with Pop Song 89.
26:24
John. Yes.
26:27
Peter. Yes.
26:30
Gavin. No.
26:34
And Chris? Yes, absolutely love that song
26:37
Got. These fours got these fours all
26:42
right back around to you, John. All right, I'm going to stick on
26:47
Green because there's one song on there that really stuck out
26:52
to me and I've always liked the song, but it never really, I
26:56
don't think you would think of it if you think of like if you
26:59
were to ask someone like what's what R.E.M.'s
27:00
best songs are. But I think this one is easily a
27:04
top five, top ten R.E.M. song. We'll see how you guys feel.
27:07
How about world leader pretend all?
27:10
Right, Peter? Yep.
27:13
Wow, Gavin. No.
27:17
OK, Chris. Chris.
27:29
I'm sorry I I closed discord by mistake.
27:32
I it hurts, but no, I did not have that song.
27:35
OK. And Brian?
27:39
I was going to play that song next.
27:41
OK, so three's all right. You know, here I'm saying we
27:46
don't have to say I'm sorry. And then I say I'm sorry.
27:51
All right, Peter. I'm going to go back to the
27:56
singles, the great beyond. Gamma.
28:04
No. OK, Chris.
28:06
Yes. Brian.
28:10
Yeah, this isn't like in like my top ten favorite R.E.M.
28:13
Song. Wow, John.
28:16
Yeah. Hey, hey, we are.
28:20
Burning through John's list, It's a great one.
28:22
No kidding, I've had everything so far.
28:24
Yeah, that's that's a four. 04 OK.
28:31
We're doing better than we were doing with Radiohead so far.
28:33
No kidding. We'll get there.
28:39
All right. So the great beyond was Peter
28:41
Gavin. Go to a song of Monster that
28:46
kind of I think splits people's opinions.
28:49
Like I've heard a lot of people come down on either side of the
28:51
song. I love it.
28:52
You guys have bang and blame. All right, hold on.
28:56
Let's we find it first. Gavin, Chris.
29:02
No. All right, Brian.
29:05
I do. John.
29:09
No. Oh, and Peter?
29:14
I died down. Wow, A2 now.
29:18
Now we're burning through Brian's list because Brian has
29:20
had everything as well and John had his first miss.
29:25
Yeah, I've had to do everything. All right, Chris all.
29:30
Right, well, let me see if I can get our first one.
29:33
Let's go get something off around the sub.
29:38
How about the Outsiders? All right, The Outsiders, Brian.
29:43
No. Oh, John.
29:47
No. Peter.
29:51
It's one of the better songs on an album, but I don't have it.
29:54
Here it comes, yeah. And Gavin?
29:57
No nice job. That makes me happy.
30:04
We're in it now. We're we're playing the game
30:07
now. It was bound to happen, yeah.
30:10
Was that the one that had Q-tip on it?
30:13
I think so. Yes, yes, it.
30:16
Is Yeah, yeah. I I I love Q-tip and Tribe and I
30:21
love R.E.M, but I don't I don't need them together.
30:26
Well, I, I, I figured I, I went for a no brainer on the first
30:29
one. I might as well, you know, swing
30:31
for the fences on the 2nd. All right, Brian.
30:38
Oh, let's go back to murmur, laughing all.
30:43
Right, John. No.
30:47
Peter. No.
30:50
Great, Gavin. Absolutely.
30:54
OK. And Chris?
30:55
No these. Two's clinging to life.
31:03
We're back around to John. Wow.
31:05
OK, let's go to Monster and the back half of Monster I think is
31:16
is really interesting to me. And there's one song on there
31:18
that really like hit me the first time I listen to it and
31:24
stuck with me for the last 30 years.
31:27
It's the everybody knows it is. It's the Kurt Cobain song, but
31:30
it's let me in. Peter.
31:35
Big yes, and Peter Buck was playing one of Kurt's guitars on
31:40
that song. Yeah, Gavin.
31:45
Oh. Chris.
31:47
No. And Brian?
31:50
I do not. Oh.
31:53
I know. Yeah.
31:54
Sorry. I.
31:54
Know your fellow, your fellow 1980 years or let you down.
31:59
Yeah. Again, these twos are still
32:02
alive, but they're clinging right now, Peter.
32:10
Let's see, I'm going to day on Monster and I think I'm going to
32:14
go for my first number, only one.
32:19
I'm going to go with tongue. Wait, All right, Gavin.
32:25
Yeah, so great. He's trying singing like the
32:28
Prince on that song. Nice, Chris.
32:33
Now. Brian.
32:36
I'm so mad I cut that for a different song.
32:40
And John? No, I just couldn't find room
32:44
for it. Yeah, all.
32:46
Right, another two to enter the chat, Gavin.
32:54
Let's do a happy up up R.E.M. song.
32:58
You guys have get up. Chris.
33:04
No, Brian. I do all.
33:09
Right, John. No.
33:12
And Peter? No.
33:17
Again, each two kind of keeps them alive.
33:20
So, Chris? We've been getting a lot of
33:27
misses. Let's go for a surefire hit.
33:29
Stand all. Right, Brian.
33:33
I don't. Have.
33:36
Oh no, no, that's I'm not mad, but OK.
33:42
Now you know what we we didn't, we didn't mention it before, but
33:46
you know, you know, where do we draw the line at singles?
33:49
We're going to draw a line at a single on a different album, but
33:53
I'm also going to draw a line at Stand.
33:57
You know John. No, I just don't think it's
34:00
needed. Peter.
34:04
I don't have it. It hasn't.
34:06
It hasn't aged well for me. Oh no.
34:10
Am I going to get another one off of Stan?
34:12
Let's find out, Gavin. No, I think Stan's a great song.
34:17
But do you have it? I do OK.
34:20
OK, God. All right.
34:22
I mean, I thought that one was a no brainer.
34:24
See this is where my list we may differ from other people.
34:27
'S I mean, that also goes to show you like that's a 2, but
34:30
it's probably dead in the water with all these.
34:33
Other yeah, yeah. All right, Brian, I'm.
34:39
Gonna go back to murmur talk about the passion all.
34:43
Right, John. Yeah, I mean, of course, what
34:47
are we doing here? Peter.
34:52
Saying what? Like what are we doing if we
34:54
don't have this? That's pressure, Gavin.
34:58
Yeah, I've got it. And Chris?
35:01
I want to say no now, just to throw it in the face of
35:03
everybody else. No, of course, of course, like.
35:08
That we're back on Trump. And just like that, these two
35:12
start becoming a little bit more expendable.
35:16
All right, see where we are here?
35:19
That gives us 3 all the way through.
35:24
And that was all Murmur. Yeah, all Murmur songs.
35:27
Yeah, Murmur is great. That was.
35:29
That's a great record. To no one's surprise.
35:32
Was Brian right? So we're back to John.
35:36
OK, I'm going to stick on Murmur and this is a song that I think
35:44
it's it's one of the only songs that could have been on any of
35:47
their albums and it would have been maybe the Best Song on all
35:50
of them. Let's go Perfect circle.
35:54
Peter. I've got it.
36:02
Gavin. Yeah, I have it.
36:05
And John, did Bill Berry write Perfect Circle?
36:09
Did he? I don't know.
36:10
I know they they were very equitable with the with the
36:12
credits. So it's hard to tell.
36:14
Yeah, I think I just heard that the other day, but I might have
36:17
heard that wrong. I was like, what?
36:18
I love that song. I put that song on the first mix
36:21
tape I made. My long time partner here.
36:25
It's on both of their unplugs and it's amazing in both of
36:28
them. Yeah.
36:30
Nice, Chris. I, I, I didn't cut much off of
36:36
that record, but unfortunately that's one of them.
36:40
And Brian? Well, I'm happy I have it now
36:43
because of John's build up, but yeah.
36:46
And it it does look like it was primarily written by by Bill
36:49
Berry. Yeah.
36:51
You guys are doing a good job of making me feel bad about my
36:54
cuts. But you just remember that you
36:59
chose stand over perfect circle. You know, yeah, I did.
37:04
That was a decision you made. There are no wrong answers.
37:09
But I fucking, I'm sorry. I fucking love Stan.
37:12
I love it. It's a big art.
37:14
Of my of. My outcoming.
37:16
So now, now face West. Now we're looking at this and as
37:22
it is right now, these twos are all doomed because if you get
37:28
anything going forward, they're they're done for you still.
37:32
Got some big ones on the board too, yeah?
37:34
Yeah. So let's see, where were we,
37:37
John? Right.
37:38
So we're Peter now, all. Right, so I'm going to try to
37:44
give Around the Sun some love, and this is the song that I've
37:50
always held onto from that album leaving New York.
37:56
Gavin. I don't have it, but that,
37:59
that's a good song. And Around the sun, yeah.
38:02
Chris. It is, and you'd think of
38:04
somebody who left New York, I would have it, but I don't.
38:08
Brian. Yeah, I have it.
38:14
And John? No.
38:17
All right, twos Gavin. There's a really cool little
38:29
weird folk song on Green called Hair Shirt.
38:31
Do you guys have that all right? Chris.
38:36
I do not. Brian.
38:39
No. John.
38:42
No, I did like it. I I thought about it very very
38:46
hard, but I can't save you. Yes, and Peter.
38:50
Sorry. Wow, another one in the bin,
38:57
Chris. I don't know.
39:02
How about what's the frequency, Kenny?
39:09
A little bias here from from your old host, one of my
39:13
favorites, Brian Kenneth. Was that good bias or bad bias
39:18
there? Good bias.
39:20
I was going to say I couldn't tell by the sound, but it could
39:22
have gone either way. God I love that song, Brian.
39:25
I do love that song. Oh, no, I don't.
39:32
It was tough to cut for me is I think it was kind of, you know,
39:38
kind of overplayed, single and kind of burned me out.
39:40
I get that. Yeah, John.
39:44
Yeah, I got it. Dan Rather represent.
39:49
Peter, I've got it, nice. And Gavin?
39:55
Yeah, Track 1 coming out with the swagger that I love that.
40:00
Sorry guys. That's all good.
40:03
Yeah, but those two are. Good, I'm the one fucking up
40:05
songs over here so it. It it it plays great when they
40:09
play it live too. Yeah.
40:12
It's got a great energy to it. I'm bummed I never got to see
40:16
them live. I saw them open for Springsteen
40:20
in two. 1004. What and?
40:23
Oh my God. Yeah, it was called, it was
40:26
called the Vote for Change tour for like, they're pairing a
40:29
bunch of huge bands. That's right.
40:31
That was Tracy Chapman, John Fogerty, R.E.M. and then
40:35
Springsteen. And when when R.E.M. was
40:38
playing, Springsteen came out and did Man on the Moon with
40:41
them. Oh my.
40:42
God, that's kind of I'm such a Springsteen and you guys have no
40:47
idea. We'll get there.
40:51
There's a championship edition for Yeah, Yeah, no kidding.
40:55
Yeah, that one I'd do in a heartbeat.
40:58
Brian Oh my turn. One of my favorite songs off
41:05
Green. I Remember California.
41:10
John I. Remember California, John?
41:18
No. Peter.
41:21
No. Gavin.
41:24
Great song and I'm a California kid.
41:26
I don't have it. Oh, no, Chris.
41:30
No, yeah, it's that was a super late cut to me, but not.
41:33
I assumed based on the noise you made that that was.
41:36
A yeah, Damn. That's right.
41:40
We should be starting to get here to the nitty gritty I
41:43
think. Probably like 8 or so left I
41:49
think. I got, I got nine, OK that.
41:51
Was pretty close. All right, John.
41:55
Oh, where to go? I've got I'm I'm going to hold
42:00
off on my around the sun song for now.
42:03
I'm going to go let's go back to let's go back to green.
42:08
There's there's how about orange crush?
42:10
That was that was a big, we'll see how back to how that does.
42:13
Peter Oh yeah. Absolutely.
42:17
Gavin, is that a exasperated no? Yeah, Chris.
42:30
Yeah, I got. I got her.
42:32
And Brian? I do.
42:35
All right, So for, for clarity's sake, because I didn't, I think
42:41
you broke up a little there, Gavin.
42:42
Was that a yes or a no? Well, I'm sorry, that was a go.
42:46
I thought so. I again, I just wanted to make
42:48
sure for clerical reasons. All right, but that was a four.
42:53
That was a four, yeah. Yeah, that was a four.
42:56
Twos are dead officially and it looks like threes are the 1/3.
43:01
No, hey, hey, watch your mouth worldly to pretend is is hanging
43:06
around. We're going to, we're going to
43:08
have a conversation. All right, Peter.
43:14
I don't think I've played anything from green yet, so I'm
43:17
going to throw Turn You Inside out out there.
43:21
All right, Gavin. No.
43:25
OK, Chris. No, I feel bad.
43:29
I I'm usually on board with a lot of the stuff.
43:32
Me and Peter, we're usually on board a lot, but I've been
43:35
missing a lot of his. I feel.
43:37
I feel bad. Brian.
43:40
I do. And John?
43:44
No. Again, at least it's a two.
43:49
It's it, it's out. But at least you weren't the
43:52
only one. Gavin, I'm.
43:56
Going to take my first pick from Murmur.
43:58
You guys have mortal kiosk? Chris.
44:02
Yes. Brian.
44:09
Brian. No all.
44:12
Right, John. Yes.
44:16
Nice. And Peter?
44:18
Yep. Nice.
44:22
Well, I didn't think that would make the cut.
44:25
That's great. Nice, nice little four there.
44:28
Yeah. All right, Chris.
44:32
I, I, I got one more that I think might have more than two
44:35
or three people *69. All right.
44:45
No, I took a another single instead of that one.
44:50
John. No.
44:52
Peter. Yeah, I also took another single
44:56
instead of that one. I think I know which one, Gavin.
45:00
Yeah, I love Store 69. Nice, all right, Cool, cool,
45:04
cool take. That too A.
45:08
Concept that's lost on every generation since.
45:11
Yeah, yeah. Fair enough.
45:13
Yeah. Totally, yeah.
45:15
Everything I got I figured could go anyway so.
45:20
All right, Brian. All right, well, I'm going to
45:23
try to hit Peter with that other single crushed with eyeliner.
45:27
My absolute favorite R.E.M. So just for just to put a little
45:33
weight on that, John. No.
45:40
Peter, you're right. That was the one I was I picked.
45:44
Yeah, Kevin. No, it's 21.
45:50
Chris. Yeah, it was a late cut, but no,
45:53
I don't have it. You say it's your favorite too,
45:57
but it hurts even more. Justin, I'm sorry.
46:00
I can feel bad now. That's.
46:01
All right, that's right. But officially that's the first
46:06
one I think out from the first list like it was on our first
46:12
list and it's not. Yeah.
46:15
Oh wow. It came down to that or Kenneth.
46:17
And Kenneth is the stronger song, I think.
46:19
I I agree, but that doesn't mean crush isn't my my favorite.
46:23
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's, it's, it's a great
46:25
song. All right, so let's Brian back
46:28
to John. OK, let's just keep going with
46:33
Monster Singles. This is made.
46:35
This was maybe the 5th or 6th single, but I don't sleep.
46:37
I dream, Peter. Peter.
46:46
I don't sleep, I dream, Peter. No, I don't have it.
46:49
All right, Gavin. No.
46:54
Chris. No.
46:57
And Brian? Did not know this was a single
47:00
but I do have it. And the two Brigade continues.
47:09
Peter Shit, how about? How about Pilgrimage from
47:19
Murmur? All right, Gavin.
47:23
Yes. Chris.
47:26
Yeah, I got that. Brian.
47:29
Yep. And John?
47:33
No, OK. Gavin.
47:43
I took Revolution that that weird song from 96.
47:46
I can't even figure out where it came from, but Michael's got
47:50
some attitude on that song. It was on the.
47:53
Fucking the Batman and Robin soundtrack.
47:56
Yeah, it was. That's right.
48:00
They recorded it for a monster, but it didn't make it.
48:02
Nice. Oh, that makes sense.
48:05
It it seems like a monster song. Yeah.
48:06
Yeah, yeah. All right.
48:08
Revolution, Chris. No, I don't have it.
48:11
Brian. I don't.
48:14
John. Hell fucking yeah.
48:17
Nice and Peter. No. 22222 the bin.
48:27
La La La La Revolution Caucus. There's a song on Batman and
48:33
Robin that I like much better, and I think, I think Justin
48:37
knows what, yeah. When we do the championship
48:40
edition of Batman soundtracks. It's going to be all Prince.
48:45
Though that's true. And Sunny Day Real Estate.
48:49
Yeah. Then there's going to be fucking
48:51
something in the way by Nirvana because that was in the the last
48:55
rows. Yeah, I mean, it's it's going to
48:59
have, it's going to have some beat for sure.
49:04
All right, Chris. I think I kept too much off of
49:08
Around the Sun. I tried to do a little bit of
49:09
album representation, but sure. That being said, I'm not going
49:13
to that album. I'm going to go back to green
49:15
and go untitled all. Right, Brian.
49:20
No. John.
49:23
Oh yeah, that's a sleeper. Love it.
49:24
Yeah, yeah. Peter.
49:28
Out. And Gavin?
49:31
Yeah, that would be nice. That would be my top ten list.
49:35
That's one of my all time favorite artists.
49:36
That is still alive. Threes are still alive, right?
49:41
Yes, no theoretically, but in. My mind fight for that one.
49:47
In my mind, no, because there's there's so many force, yeah.
49:52
We're we're going to, we're going to.
49:54
Ton of force, but we'll get there.
49:55
Yeah, we'll get there. This world's big.
49:58
It's that, it's that Mike Mills harmonizing that Mike kills you,
50:03
dude. He does that so.
50:05
He's a secret weapon. Yep.
50:07
Secret weapon for reals. All right, Brian.
50:13
This is my last song. Oh.
50:16
Jesus. Made in my list.
50:18
Nice. Shaking through all.
50:23
Right, John. Yeah.
50:25
Hi, Gavin. Peter.
50:29
No. Gavin.
50:33
Yeah. And Chris?
50:37
No, no. She, you know, for the guys that
50:42
have lived with Murmur or I guess any record, you know how
50:44
like that you love like every decade or every year you find
50:49
like a new favorite song on that record, you know?
50:51
Sure. That's shaking through for me.
50:54
It's my favorite song now on Merlin, you know?
50:56
But it wasn't, obviously. Yeah.
50:58
Also make my top ten like with a bullet no problem.
51:02
Right. Like, if I could have kept that
51:05
whole record, I, I would have, but I needed to, you know, do
51:09
some other albums too. So I.
51:11
Got a three that got a three. That got a three, yes.
51:14
All right. So it's kind of a sleeper.
51:16
I understand that that's a deep cut on that.
51:18
Record. Yeah, yeah.
51:20
But it's so, so good. So we know Brian is out, which
51:25
means we're we have no more unanimous coming through.
51:29
So it should be noted, right sitting still radio for Europe,
51:32
talk about the passion are already in.
51:33
Those are the three. So let's do a check.
51:36
You can't have very many left either, right John?
51:39
I got 3 left. OK, so let's do another round
51:42
and see where we are after that. You're up, John.
51:46
OK, how about let's just do around the sun?
51:50
How about Electron Blue? Yeah, I'm sorry.
51:54
Maybe speaking out of? Turn.
51:56
You went out of turn, but that's.
51:57
All right, I got excited because there was something I had on my
51:59
list. Here Electron Blue.
52:04
I like it, it's just better songs I think for me to pick.
52:11
All right. And Gavin?
52:13
That was the one song that had a chance for me off around the
52:16
sun, but I ultimately couldn't take it all right.
52:19
So technically into the bin it goes even with the two Peter you
52:25
want to do first do like a check how many do you got left?
52:29
I got 3 left. OK, yeah, let's let's go.
52:32
Peter, where you want to go? How about catapult from Murmur?
52:38
All right. Gavin, yeah.
52:42
You gotta say it like. That that was 22.
52:45
I had to cut it. Chris.
52:48
No, I got it. I got it.
52:50
And hey. Got some Peter points back.
52:53
And John? No.
52:56
OK. So it's a 2.
53:00
All right, Gavin. I was like, this is a this is a
53:03
sad state of affairs if I'm cutting catapult, that doesn't
53:05
make any sense. But that's just where we were at
53:09
all. Right.
53:09
So before you make your your next choice, you want to do a
53:13
check on where you're at, Gavin, how many you got?
53:15
This is my last. One all right where you want to.
53:20
Go and I've saved one of the best for last one of my.
53:23
This would also make my top ten list.
53:27
I took You are the Everything, the Best Song of green.
53:31
All right, Chris. No, I don't haven't well.
53:35
John. Yeah, I got it.
53:38
All right. And Peter?
53:42
I don't, I'm sorry. All right, so that's it.
53:46
Why is this not registering? I pushed one.
53:49
Hello. There we go.
53:52
Oh my God. All right, A to it is and Chris,
54:03
if you want to give us a check. Yeah, I got, I got 4 left.
54:08
All right, where you want to go here?
54:10
I guess just start at the top. We walk all.
54:15
Right, John. Oh, that's a great song.
54:19
No, I do not have it. That's so cool you picked up.
54:23
And Peter? I Yeah.
54:25
I've got it. Nice.
54:27
Boom. Oh.
54:29
Two say that we're back, we're back we're back to being friends
54:33
it's. The Waltz.
54:37
I was like, nobody's going to have, nobody's going to take we
54:39
walk. I like that song a lot.
54:42
Awesome song. All right.
54:43
So if my math is correct, this is your last one, right, John?
54:48
Yes. All right.
54:48
Where you going? It is you off of Monster all.
54:54
Right. No, Peter.
55:00
It's a great song, but I picked something else from that album.
55:05
All right. And Chris?
55:06
No, I don't. I don't.
55:08
Sorry all. Right.
55:10
So John is out. Are you down to your last one as
55:15
well, Peter, or do you have two left?
55:18
This is my last one all right. What do you got?
55:22
I took your name from Monster. Yeah, you're the only other one,
55:28
Chris. So yeah, I don't, I don't, I
55:29
don't have a. I don't have a.
55:31
Into the bin it goes. I I felt like I'd be the other
55:34
one out. That's cool.
55:35
It's cool. All right, so just for fun,
55:37
would you want to clear out the last three?
55:39
Yeah, yeah, let's see what we got.
55:40
I got King of comedy, circus envy and Water loss.
55:47
Circus Envy is awesome. That's such a weird song.
55:49
Yeah, I I mean, I'm a weird dude, so.
55:52
What was the last time you said? Wanderlust Wanderlust off of a
55:56
yeah yeah, I and I think I've I really only kept that, I think,
56:00
for album representation. I could have cut that and
56:03
brought someone else back, but. So I do.
56:06
Want to Yeah, I do want to. Justin knows I I picked the.
56:09
Weird stuff. Yeah, that's true.
56:11
But I do want to point out that like until those like last
56:14
couple of rounds, there was only like 4 in the bin, 3 in the bin.
56:19
Yeah. We also covered 40 No 39 out of
56:24
53 I think. And twos are dead, you know,
56:29
we'll see what we'll see about the threes.
56:33
We've got 3 all the way through. Sitting still, ready for Europe.
56:36
Talk about the passion are in. So let's go over these fours
56:40
first. Strange Currencies, Bad Day, Pop
56:43
Song 89 Great, Beyond Perfect Circle.
56:48
What's the Frequency, Kenneth, Orange Crush, Moral Kiosk and
56:51
Pilgrimage. I mean, John, like, that's like
56:55
a strong set of fours that that you need to sit down and then
57:00
you got to sit them down real far if you really want to get
57:03
these threes in the conversation.
57:05
Yeah, I mean, I think, but I think world leader pretend is is
57:10
strong enough that it it needs to be get serious consideration.
57:13
I think, you know, even, you know, current events
57:16
notwithstanding that song just really I think hits and it's
57:21
it's one that I think if it if it can make it through this
57:23
round, I think it has a sleeper shot of of going pretty far.
57:27
But I would I mean, I I'm looking at this like you've got
57:31
bad day and the great beyond. I don't think we need both of
57:33
those like moral kiosk pilgrimage, perfect circle.
57:40
I mean, that's that would be a lot from from murmur to throw
57:43
in. I don't think we need all of
57:44
those perfect circle would be the one I think that that stands
57:48
out the most that I think we need.
57:52
So that that's where I'm at right now is that it is as I
57:54
just look at this kind of superficially.
57:57
All right, So what do you think about that Peter?
58:01
Like like you pointed out, there's a lot of Murmur here in
58:04
the fours, but there's already 3 from Murmur in he's John's
58:09
positing that of the Murmur songs remaining perfect circles
58:14
the one. Either either that or
58:18
pilgrimage. OK, so there's, you know, 2 that
58:23
could be in this conversation. What do you think, Gavin?
58:29
Just talking about the out of those murmur tracks that are
58:31
left right that I mean, I I would vote for perfect circle,
58:36
but but I do want to just say that like there's something
58:42
about pilgrimage that to me it may be like the quintessential
58:49
R.E.M. song, early R.E.M. song like it is so weird and so
58:54
special and no other band could have written that song.
58:58
But. It's got that Southern Gothic
59:01
thing that they did, yeah. So cool, it's so cool.
59:04
And the perfect Circle is just a heart, like a heart song for me,
59:09
you know, so I can't vote against it, but that's a fucking
59:12
not a fair dude. This is like terrible.
59:18
Yeah. Which part of your soul do you
59:21
want to crush? That's that's.
59:22
What we like What? Do you think, Chris, like we're
59:24
looking at these remaining Murmur songs?
59:29
I mean, if I had to pick one, I'd go with, obviously I'd go
59:32
with Pilgrimage because I picked, I mean, perfect, perfect
59:34
Circles. It's a great song.
59:36
Everything on, everything on Murmur, such.
59:38
It was such a great album. But I think I'd have to go with
59:42
Pilgrimage. Scott is, you know, it's a
59:44
little different than everything else on the record.
59:48
Yeah. One one thing, if I could just
59:51
sorry, chime in one thing that's weird, John, I hadn't thought
59:54
about until now. It's just like when in real time
59:59
when all that was coming out, Perfect Circle stood out so hard
1:00:03
because it was so beautiful and showed a totally different side
1:00:07
to them. Yeah.
1:00:08
Oh yeah. Yeah, like I said, it it could
1:00:10
be. It's it's the only R.E.M.
1:00:11
Song I think that would have fit on all of their.
1:00:13
Records like you. That's right.
1:00:14
I see. What you're saying?
1:00:15
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
1:00:16
We've seen them do that in so many ways.
1:00:19
That pilgrimage, like, is a fucking weird, you know?
1:00:24
But I'm still voting for a perfect strip.
1:00:26
I'm just saying like, yeah. Well, it's it sounds like I
1:00:30
mean, I'm I'm going to just I think this is where you're
1:00:32
probably going to go. But I don't think I think moral
1:00:35
kiosk maybe is is happy to be here and we can connect with lay
1:00:39
down to just has that great and and maybe and maybe perfect
1:00:43
circle and pilgrimage get in. But I think we can, We can,
1:00:45
maybe we can. We can send Moral Kiosk off with
1:00:49
this parting gift. Well, let's let's ask Brian,
1:00:52
like, do you? Do you really?
1:00:54
Would you at this point really stand up for Moral Kiosk over
1:00:58
Perfect Circle and Pilgrimage? No, I also just want to back up
1:01:05
John on World Leader Pretend. Oh, thank you.
1:01:09
We're looking we're looking for the best of the best.
1:01:12
Yeah, these songs, no spoilers, are going to have to go up
1:01:15
against Man on the Moon, the one I love.
1:01:19
Is bad Day going to go up against those songs?
1:01:21
No, it's going to be. I'm not saying that like world
1:01:27
leader pretend is better than Man on the Moon or.
1:01:30
You know, I think it might be. But but.
1:01:35
But. But it's bad day even in the
1:01:37
same so so I so I do want to get behind world leader pretend to a
1:01:43
bad day. And yeah, perfect circle should
1:01:46
have should have been A5. It shouldn't be like a
1:01:49
discussion. All right.
1:01:51
Yeah, sorry about that. No, it's fine, but.
1:01:55
So. No, no.
1:01:56
Hate here. Yeah.
1:01:58
So this is what it sounds like to me.
1:01:59
Let's we can put perfect circle through.
1:02:02
Leave pilgrimage alive to see if we still have room for it.
1:02:06
Does that sound acceptable to everybody?
1:02:09
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:02:12
All right, so let's do that now again.
1:02:17
I mean, we're looking for the best of the best, but you also,
1:02:23
you know, do we want some more representation here?
1:02:26
I mean, you know, Canada. I would fight for strange
1:02:31
currencies. All right, so you know, Chris,
1:02:36
you're the odd man out on on strange currencies.
1:02:40
Again, I mean, there's there's not as an R.E.M.
1:02:44
Song that I'd say is awful you know, there's obviously some
1:02:48
that are better than others I I get, but I can't argue against
1:02:51
strange currencies. It's great.
1:02:52
It's great to end. Is anybody against putting
1:02:55
strange currencies at in at this point?
1:02:58
No. No all.
1:03:00
Right, so let's do that. Now let me ask you this, Gavin.
1:03:05
We still have Kenneth alive. Does Kenneth get a spot here?
1:03:10
Or yeah, 2 yeah, Justin. So thinking about I am thinking
1:03:15
about representation. So to do strange currencies and
1:03:19
Kenneth off monster and then and then the green and then the
1:03:28
green argument that the two that got a four pop song, 89 and
1:03:32
orange crush right, But John and and then there's an argument for
1:03:37
world leader. Pretend I didn't have any of
1:03:39
those songs. So I don't care, but it can be a
1:03:40
couple. None of my green songs made it
1:03:43
so that you know two of the three there and then you then
1:03:47
you have room for I'm jumping way ahead, dude.
1:03:51
But anyway, yes, so your question about Kenneth is
1:03:55
absolutely that should be on the list and that would be two then
1:03:58
from Monster. What do you think, Brian?
1:04:03
Yeah, no, I'm I'm fine with with what's for good.
1:04:06
See Cafe. I said I just I, I mostly didn't
1:04:09
take it because I didn't think I I had to, you know, I it was
1:04:15
just one of those last minute things where I'm just like, I've
1:04:18
heard this line, but yeah, I mean, it's you know, I have.
1:04:23
No, I have no. I have no problem putting it
1:04:25
through. All right.
1:04:26
So does anybody have a problem with putting Kenneth through at
1:04:29
this point? Absolutely not, I love that
1:04:33
fucking song. All right, so let's grab
1:04:35
Kenneth. All right, so now let's try to
1:04:38
start laying some things down to Brian's point about like bad day
1:04:43
and the great beyond standing against the the tall, tall trees
1:04:47
of later rounds. Are they out at this point or,
1:04:51
you know, are they just happy to be here or do they stand a
1:04:54
chance here at this point? John.
1:04:57
I mean, I think I don't know that we need both of them.
1:05:00
That was what I was saying. Like I would say if we're
1:05:05
because we've got 4 green songs left, is that right or am I?
1:05:11
Yeah, 4 left. Like I think, you know, Pop Song
1:05:17
89 and Orange Crush kind of do the same thing.
1:05:21
I don't know that both of those are gonna have a shot to make
1:05:25
the I would say maybe only one of those and then world leader
1:05:30
pretend to get some green in here.
1:05:34
All right, so, well, let's let's tackle your first thing pop song
1:05:39
89 versus Orange Crush. Peter, what do you think?
1:05:44
I kind of disagree that they're doing the same thing.
1:05:46
Pop song is like very upbeat and jangly whereas Orange Crushes,
1:05:51
you know it's about fucking war. See how many do I have in like
1:05:58
6th? Yes, we're at 6.
1:06:02
So I would lean towards Orange Crush, World Leader, Pretend,
1:06:10
and Great Beyond and then let's see what we got for the last
1:06:14
one. I like that all.
1:06:17
Right. What do you think, Kevin?
1:06:18
It's been posited as what was it, pop song Great Beyond.
1:06:25
No Orange Crush. Orange Crush Rather Great Beyond
1:06:29
and World Leader pretend as the next.
1:06:31
Three to go in out of those 4, right?
1:06:37
Yeah. OK, so I like Pop song 89.
1:06:40
I like it better than Orange Crush for sure.
1:06:43
I don't really care about Great Beyond.
1:06:45
I like World leader Pretend. So if it was, if it was picked 2
1:06:49
out of those four, I would choose Pop Song 89 and World
1:06:52
Leader, Pretend and leave the Great Beyond and Orange Crush
1:06:55
behind all. Right, well, let's tackle this
1:07:00
then. Gavin's willing to put world
1:07:05
leader pretend in Chris. Are you sold on it?
1:07:09
I mean at this point I would drop the signals and put world
1:07:14
leader in all. Right, so let's go ahead and put
1:07:18
world Leader Pretend in, since it sounds.
1:07:20
Excellent, excellent job everyone that's.
1:07:24
No, it's, yeah, no, it's that's absolutely a fantastic song and
1:07:29
again, I I probably would have kept it if I wasn't leaning
1:07:32
towards playing the game a little bit and doing album
1:07:34
representation. Like I think.
1:07:38
If I wasn't thinking about album representation, I honestly
1:07:42
probably would not have put anything on Around the Sun in in
1:07:47
in this list. And I had three.
1:07:49
I had three off of that right now just because I felt like I
1:07:52
had to. But like.
1:07:54
Not even the right one. I didn't believe in New York
1:07:56
yet. So no, but like finishing like
1:07:58
world leader pretend like that's a song I think is if I'm, if you
1:08:02
go through and, and as we get into the finals, if as you
1:08:06
listen to those 40 songs, I think world leader pretend is
1:08:09
still, they're going to stand out.
1:08:11
I think that's because there's, there's almost nothing from that
1:08:16
era that that sounds like. And it's got such a, such a way
1:08:20
to it. It really stuck out to me.
1:08:21
I, I, I would say give that, give that one a second.
1:08:23
Listen as you go in the next. Round, yeah.
1:08:25
And at this point, honestly, I'm not thinking about later rounds.
1:08:28
Maybe I should be. I'm just picking the these
1:08:32
lists, all these songs off of this list.
1:08:34
I'm still probably playing regular deprogrammed versus
1:08:39
Championship edition in my brain so.
1:08:43
All right, so that takes us up to 7, but again, it it sounds
1:08:49
like nobody at this point is on board for bad day like.
1:08:55
If it if it costs pop song or Orange Crush I, I I would leave
1:09:01
Bad day off What? Do you think right?
1:09:04
Yeah. I would say.
1:09:06
Crush over bad day? Oh, that's just my perfect
1:09:09
preference. What'd you say I?
1:09:12
Said I would take the great beyond over bad day, but that's
1:09:15
just like my preference. Yeah, what?
1:09:19
Do you think I agree? For me.
1:09:25
Gavin, sorry. It sounds like I'm outvoted on
1:09:28
bad days. I'm fine with that.
1:09:31
I mean, you can put you can you can help him out here, Peter, if
1:09:35
if you think bad day over great beyond.
1:09:37
If, oh if we're choosing singles, I prefer Bad Day over
1:09:41
the Great Beyond. Me too.
1:09:43
Out of those two singles, I prefer Bad Day.
1:09:47
It's interesting, but I don't prefer Bad Day over the two
1:09:51
songs off of Green Pop song 89 An Orange Crush.
1:09:57
So all right, so here's what we need to get the heart of John
1:10:01
Brian already posited this. But like we we need we need to
1:10:04
hard line this because you know, we're we're getting against it.
1:10:09
Do Bad Day and great Beyond stand a chance in the big round?
1:10:15
I would say the Great Beyond has a better chance.
1:10:20
All right. Now, thinking of it through that
1:10:23
context, Peter, of which one has the better chance in the big
1:10:28
round I? Think Great Beyond would have
1:10:31
the great chance in the big round?
1:10:34
What? Do you think Gavin?
1:10:37
Yeah, I'm fine with that. Chris.
1:10:41
That's yeah, that's fine. And Brian?
1:10:45
Yeah, yeah. All right.
1:10:46
So sounds like everybody's on board then with putting great
1:10:51
Beyond through? Yes.
1:10:56
OK. All right.
1:10:58
So at this point, are we laying bad day down then?
1:11:01
It sounds like that's what we're doing.
1:11:03
Yeah. Yeah, put that.
1:11:06
All right, so that takes us up to 8.
1:11:07
We have room for two. There's three fours Alive, Pop
1:11:11
Song, 89, Orange Crush and Pilgrimage.
1:11:15
Take all three of them. Let's go.
1:11:17
Well we only got room for 2 friend.
1:11:20
Oh, see. All right, Peter, if if you had
1:11:25
a choice of two of those 3. I would pick Orange Crush and
1:11:35
Pilgrimage. All right, Gavin, if you had two
1:11:40
of those 3. I would take Pop Song 89 and
1:11:44
Pilgrimage all. Right, Chris?
1:11:50
Which strand? I'm sorry.
1:11:52
Pop song 89 Orange Crush and Pilgrimage You're.
1:11:58
Going to make it difficult and go Orange Crush and Pop song 89.
1:12:04
Why does this keep doing this to me?
1:12:06
Well, those are the 2 songs that I put through, so you know, I'm
1:12:11
sorry. Yeah, I also put Pilgrimage
1:12:18
through honestly, but right, that was the third one we were
1:12:21
talking about. Yeah.
1:12:23
Yeah. All right, Brian, if you had
1:12:28
two? Of those 3.
1:12:30
Yeah, I'm going to go the same way as Peter, Orange Crush and
1:12:33
Pilgrimage, Brian. Brian, John, if you had two of
1:12:42
those 3. I'm going to.
1:12:45
I'm going to say Orange Crush and Pilgrimage too.
1:12:48
All right, so. Pilgrimage is in.
1:12:51
Yeah, everybody pick pilgrimage. So pilgrimage.
1:12:55
I didn't pick pilgrimage. Well, I mean, ever.
1:12:58
Yeah. No, I'd sit here.
1:12:59
Yeah, the numbers, numbers. We voted for you.
1:13:06
And I mean, if we're going by just numbers, Orange Crush would
1:13:09
be #10 why is this not doing what it's supposed to do?
1:13:18
Oh my God. All right, so before we put
1:13:29
Orange Crush through John, are any of these other threes over
1:13:37
Orange Crush or is it Orange Crush?
1:13:41
I mean, shaking through is is tough because like I said, I
1:13:48
think somebody said it was like their favorite song off of
1:13:51
murmur right now. And I I get that it's it's
1:13:54
great. But like we already have 5 right
1:13:57
off of Murmur and like at some point you have to let the cream
1:14:02
of the crop be the cream of the crop.
1:14:06
So I think, yeah, I think in like we only have the the one
1:14:12
song from green so far. So I would say Orange Crush.
1:14:16
What? Do you think Peter, is it Orange
1:14:19
Crush or are these threes in the conversation?
1:14:25
I think Orange Crush has the best chance moving on, so I
1:14:29
would stick with that, yeah. Not to not mention Untitled,
1:14:31
sorry. Like I love Untitled too, but
1:14:34
that's another sleeper one that I don't think would have a shot
1:14:38
later. What do you think?
1:14:41
Even though it's a great song, What?
1:14:42
Do you think Gavin one of these? I take untitled Orange Crush, I
1:14:46
think it's a better song there. You go, Chris.
1:14:53
I mean, I had Orange Crush and Untitled.
1:14:57
I, I I love both of them. I still want to fight for pop
1:15:01
song 89, but even over Untitled. So because I had all three of
1:15:08
those songs, Yeah. But yeah, I, yeah, I, I got an
1:15:14
up to the additive conversation here.
1:15:16
OK. And Brian?
1:15:20
Orange Crush. OK, so it sounds like we're
1:15:23
doing this democratically. Orange crushes are #10.
1:15:27
Yeah, yeah. All right, boom boom, boom,
1:15:32
woof, sitting. Still is Orange Crush the Is
1:15:36
that the only song off that we kept?
1:15:41
Yeah. Oh, OK, that's right.
1:15:43
And yeah, that's the other one I didn't.
1:15:45
Alright. Alright, so here we go, sitting
1:15:47
still. Radio Free Europe.
1:15:49
Talk about the passion perfect circle, strange currencies,
1:15:53
strange currencies. I almost read remastered 2013
1:15:56
and then I did it anyway. What's the what's the frequency,
1:16:00
Kenneth, world leader pretend the Great beyond pilgrimage and
1:16:03
Orange Crush rounds out our 10. So those ones.
1:16:08
That's real strong. It's a great less.
1:16:11
Those are going to advance into the next round and we're going
1:16:15
to, we're going to see you all I'm saying next week.
1:16:19
But who knows when these will get edited and actually post.
1:16:22
But what do they have to look forward to in Part 2, John.
1:16:32
John. Sorry, I had accidentally muted
1:16:35
myself. We're going to talk about
1:16:37
Reckoning, document new adventures in Hi-fi, which is my
1:16:41
one of my low key favorites, and collapse into now the the final
1:16:45
album. Boom.
1:16:47
So get ready for some more heat. It's the program Championship
1:16:50
edition. We will see you all next time.