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- 0:52OK, so two of my stories today aren't super tech related, which
- 0:56I'm sure some of you may enjoy it for a change, but they are
- 0:59definitely Internet culture related, focusing on what people
- 1:03are talking about online. So my first story for today is
- 1:07all about the supposed mean drought that everyone is talking
- 1:10about. I felt like this would be a fun
- 1:12one to start off with, so let's just get straight into it.
- 1:15Over the past week, social media users I've particularly seen
- 1:18this on TikTok are talking about how we are in the middle of a
- 1:21meme depression, which in other words, means that the meme
- 1:24landscape right now is pretty dry.
- 1:26According to Know Your Meme, the origin of the meme drought came
- 1:30from a social media user called at Goof Angel.
- 1:33In the video posted to TikTok on March 10, he noted that March
- 1:37had not seen a single original meme.
- 1:39When I'm really old and have grain kids, I'm going to tell my
- 1:42grandkids about the tech Talk Great Depression of March 2025.
- 1:48It has been what, 9 days into March and we haven't had a
- 1:52single original meme. Like yeah, you might mention
- 1:55that Subaru meme, but that was made back in 2021.
- 1:58It just resurfaced. There's nothing new.
- 2:00According to the article on Know Your Meme Quote, the concept of
- 2:04a meme drought on TikTok was popularized online over the next
- 2:07few days as users started to recycle old memes or share
- 2:10ironic meta jokes using real pictures of the Great
- 2:13Depression. So I have seen a whole bunch of
- 2:15videos that definitely fit into this description and most of
- 2:18them are talking about how people are struggling to find
- 2:21memes to send to their friends. For example, one TikTok that I
- 2:24saw read quote how the Great March meme drought will be
- 2:28described in the history books, and this text was accompanied
- 2:31with historical pictures of people waiting in lines and then
- 2:34also graphs showing the downturn in meme production over the last
- 2:38month. Another TikTok I saw had a
- 2:40similar caption, but it also included a picture of a very
- 2:42dehydrated SpongeBob, which obviously is insinuating how
- 2:46deprived we are of memes at the moment.
- 2:48As you probably have already noticed, most of these Tik Toks
- 2:51are essentially making a meme of the meme drought, which is
- 2:54ironic because it has become a meme in and of itself.
- 2:58Nevertheless, I have also seen users discuss why they think we
- 3:01are experiencing an alleged meme drought. 1 TikTok user put it
- 3:05down to social medias quote dragging everything to the Max,
- 3:08which obviously is like people just taking things too far where
- 3:11we're getting tired of memes quickly.
- 3:13So I have a couple of thoughts on all of this meme depression
- 3:16discourse. First and foremost, I don't
- 3:19necessarily buy the concept of a meme drought in this day and age
- 3:22simply because the Internet is so fragmented.
- 3:25You can't really have a full meme drought because I've
- 3:28definitely seen some chronically online memes going around like
- 3:32the 19th birthday in Poland meme on Stan Twitter, and of course
- 3:36the I believe in children RuPaul meme on TikTok.
- 3:39This is sounds insane for me to talk about but if you know you
- 3:42know. I will say though that these
- 3:44memes are obviously different to brain rock content and I feel
- 3:47like that is more what the meme depression is referring to.
- 3:51On top of this, I don't really think we should be expecting new
- 3:54memes or brain rock content to come to the mainstream every
- 3:57week or every month or however frequent we expect it to be.
- 4:00I think the reason why we may be feeling that we are experiencing
- 4:04a meme depression is the impact of the fast-paced trend cycle.
- 4:08Now I feel like we're often accustomed to talking about this
- 4:10in terms of fashion, but it is definitely applicable here.
- 4:13Recently, I feel like we expect something new to have reached
- 4:17the mainstream or at least our corner of the Internet virtually
- 4:19every week, where this assumption and the fast-paced
- 4:23trend cycle has definitely changed the life cycle and flow
- 4:26of memes in the digital landscape, ranging from their
- 4:29origins, rise, widespread discovery, and subsequent
- 4:32normalization in the digital landscape.
- 4:34Having said that, I definitely feel like it's normal for there
- 4:37to be lulls in the frequency of memes.
- 4:39We feel the same way reporting on Internet culture here, There
- 4:42are definitely periods where there is not much going on, but
- 4:45there is always something. It may have just not hit the
- 4:48mainstream yet. Aiden Walker, who I actually
- 4:50cited last week, but he just honestly has great takes on
- 4:53memes. But he added that it is really
- 4:56difficult these days for a singular meme to go viral.
- 4:58When we think of some of the most popular memes and periods
- 5:01of memes that we have seen in recent years, they've often come
- 5:04in groups. I mean, on Twitter, for
- 5:07instance, you often will see social media users write a post
- 5:10and then add comments, like the way you need to be chronically
- 5:12online to understand this. So often memes are becoming
- 5:16popular with context to make users feel like they're in on
- 5:19the joke. So with that point as well, I
- 5:21think we definitely need to learn to be a little bit more
- 5:23patient with the meme cycle because honestly, it's quality
- 5:27over quantity. I feel like I just said meme so
- 5:30many times while telling you guys about that story.
- 5:33And the next one is also kind of related to the meme drought.
- 5:36And that is that TikTok users are plotting to flood YouTube
- 5:39Shorts with content from TikTok. This is what TikTok users are
- 5:44called. The quote colonization of
- 5:46YouTube shorts. I will just say I am not
- 5:49obsessed with the phrasing here. I always find it a little bit
- 5:52weird when Internet users use this kind of language and put a
- 5:56positive spin on it. Call me sensitive, but do with
- 5:59that what you will. Essentially, TikTok users are
- 6:02planning to flood YouTube Shorts with all different types of
- 6:05content on March 25th. One of the earliest videos to
- 6:09post about the move across was posted five days ago with the
- 6:12caption quote. We are posting brain rot and
- 6:14replacing dead Internet comments.
- 6:16We plan this will take a week or maybe two weeks.
- 6:19So with that, let's get into some of the reasons I've seen
- 6:22online as to why users want to move across to YouTube Shorts.
- 6:27The first was alluded to in that caption and it is that users
- 6:30want to post brain rot and other content hoping to eliminate all
- 6:33dead Internet theory comments. Lauren has definitely spoken
- 6:37about dead Internet theory across mini scroll and infinite
- 6:40scroll, but I'll give a little bit of a summary here as well
- 6:43just to make sure we're all on the same page.
- 6:44So dead Internet theory operates under the assumption that AI and
- 6:48other bot generated content has surpassed human generated
- 6:51content online. The dead Internet theory
- 6:54essentially claims that activity and content on the Internet,
- 6:57including social media accounts are predominantly being created
- 7:00and automated by AI agents. So I think with that these users
- 7:05are hoping that by posting brain rock content and other content
- 7:08these allegations will be defeated question mark.
- 7:11But I think the next theory is way more telling and that this
- 7:14is a pre emptive move for the potential TikTok ban that is
- 7:17coming soon maybe in the United States where these users are
- 7:21trying to improve the algorithm and YouTube shots.
- 7:24I know we have been talking about the TikTok ban for months
- 7:28now, but we honestly still do not have a resolution on what is
- 7:32going to happen next. Because as we know, Trump issued
- 7:34an executive order at the beginning of his presidency
- 7:37saying that TikTok will be allowed to function for another
- 7:3975 days and we are coming up close to that deadline on April
- 7:445th I believe. Presumably, if the US has not
- 7:47found a potential buyout or Byte Dance is not in the process of
- 7:50divesting, the app will shut down again, or so it seems.
- 7:54Who honestly knows? With that being said, no one is
- 7:57quite sure of the progress that has been made as I have been
- 7:59covering consistently on Mini Tech Scroll.
- 8:02But at this current time, there are reports that Oracle is the
- 8:05top choice to help run TikTok. According to the information
- 8:09quote, Oracle is the leading contender to help run TikTok in
- 8:12a new deal. This isn't a total surprise
- 8:14because TikTok has been using Oracle to store data of US users
- 8:18I think since 2022 at this point.
- 8:21So obviously Byte Dance and TikTok familiar with the company
- 8:24already. That said, it is also likely
- 8:27that Byte Dance will still want to have a substantial role in
- 8:30the platform's operations, so it makes sense that they would want
- 8:33to have some familiarity. But who knows if this will be
- 8:36sufficient for the US government.
- 8:38Anyway, that was a little bit of a tangent from the move across
- 8:41to YouTube Shorts, but I feel like it was relevant, so I hope
- 8:45that gave you guys the context you needed.
- 8:47Well, this whole plan has definitely become a meme in its
- 8:50own right. I am intrigued to see if users
- 8:53will genuinely start posting on Shorts.
- 8:56On top of this, if they do post, I am curious to see if this even
- 9:00makes a difference with the existing algorithm.
- 9:02But who knows, this might just all be a fun little Internet
- 9:05bit. OK so my last story is an actual
- 9:09tech story and that is Meta has officially started rolling out
- 9:12community notes on its platforms.
- 9:14If you remember, I think it was on my first episode of the
- 9:17podcast, but I reported on how Meta was changing its moderation
- 9:20policies. For a quick refresher, in
- 9:22January, Meta announced that it would be replacing fact checkers
- 9:25with community notes, removing restrictions on various topics
- 9:28like immigration and gender, among other changes, all to
- 9:32supposedly protect free expression and limit censorship
- 9:35across the social media platforms.
- 9:37The response to this decision was split along political lines,
- 9:41with right leaning users supporting the changes and
- 9:44praising Zuckerberg and Meta for embracing free speech.
- 9:47left-leaning users, by contrast, claimed that this would have a
- 9:50negative effect on the social media landscape, claiming that
- 9:54these changes would help spread misinformation and encourage
- 9:56hate speech. On top of this, many of these
- 9:59users were particularly concerned by the way Meta seem
- 10:02to fall in line with the Trump administration's attitude to
- 10:05censorship and free speech in the digital world, which many
- 10:08claim includes protecting discriminatory rhetoric.
- 10:11And this of course was in a broader discussion of big tech
- 10:14kind of following suit of the Trump administration.
- 10:17With this context, many users throughout these conversations
- 10:20also discussed how there seemed to be more and more right wing
- 10:23content popping up on the social media landscape.
- 10:26And this is a hypothesis that Media Matters, which is AUS
- 10:29based not-for-profit progressive research and information
- 10:33recently approved in a new study.
- 10:35So the researchers conducted an analysis of 320 online shows and
- 10:39podcasts to check whether right leaning or left-leaning ideology
- 10:43dominated those shows. Quote.
- 10:46We found that right leaning online shows dominate the
- 10:49ecosystem with substantially larger audiences on both
- 10:52politics slash news shows and supposedly non political shows
- 10:56that we determined often platformed ideological content
- 10:59or guests. Having said all that, with an
- 11:02increasingly biased digital landscape, I'm not sure how well
- 11:05this bodes for Community Notes, which is a way of fact checking
- 11:09essentially through crowdsourcing for context.
- 11:11Community Notes originated on X and quote allows regular users
- 11:16to submit additional context to posts offering up supporting
- 11:19evidence to set the record straight.
- 11:21According to an article by Bloomberg from Tuesday, March
- 11:2418th, which is today in the USI believe Meta will start testing
- 11:29a similar system. According to a Meta blog post
- 11:32quote. We're going to take time to do
- 11:33this right. Around 200,000 potential
- 11:36contributors in the US have signed up so far across all
- 11:39three apps, which is Threads, Instagram, and Facebook, and the
- 11:44wait list remains open for those who wish to take part in the
- 11:46program. The blog post also explained
- 11:48that community notes on Meta will have a limit of 500
- 11:51characters and will need to include a link to support the
- 11:54note and to get a note published and allegedly safeguard against
- 11:57bias. The community notes won't be
- 11:59published unless contributed. It is with a range of different
- 12:02viewpoints. Broadly agree on them.
- 12:04Of course, Community notes have been met with a lot of pushback
- 12:07since they've been instituted on X, but they are definitely
- 12:10better than nothing. Having said that, though, as
- 12:13Dave Lee and Carolyn Silverman continue for Bloomberg quote, a
- 12:17Bloomberg Opinion analysis of 1.1 million community notes
- 12:21written in English from the start of 2023 to February 2025
- 12:26show that the system has fallen well short of counteracting the
- 12:29incentives, both political and financial, for lying and
- 12:32allowing people to lie on X. Obviously, Meta's social media
- 12:36platforms are very different to the environment on X, but this
- 12:39platform is definitely worth considering because community
- 12:42notes have been around for quite a while.
- 12:45In their analysis, the authors also discovered other
- 12:48problematic factors on X, in that notes on contentious topics
- 12:52are more likely to be removed and that most community notes
- 12:54don't even see the light of day as used, increasingly failed to
- 12:57reach a consensus. That being said though, the
- 12:59authors also pointed out some of the positives of the community
- 13:03note systems, where they characterize it as faster and
- 13:06sometimes trustworthy and more transparent than professional
- 13:09fact checkers. I will also just add that there
- 13:11was a lot more interesting data in this Bloomberg article, but
- 13:14obviously I am just giving you the highlights, but it will be
- 13:18linked below if you want to give it a read.
- 13:20Well, most of the discussion online about the efficacy of
- 13:23community notes is restricted to X.
- 13:26I am intrigued whether Meta will try capitalize on its failings
- 13:30or simply copy and paste the format.
- 13:32So far it does seem that it will be operationally similar to how
- 13:36it works on X, though it definitely remains unclear.
- 13:39I'm also curious whether Meta will be able to drum up the same
- 13:42amount of enthusiasm that X has for community Notes.
- 13:45Obviously they have had a lot of sign ups, but with community
- 13:49notes being rolled out on platforms like Facebook,
- 13:51Instagram and Threads, they are all very different to X.
- 13:54Like I kind of already touched on.
- 13:56And I think this is especially interesting in Instagrams case
- 13:59given that as a platform which focuses on photo and video, it
- 14:03hasn't really developed a community centered around
- 14:06discourse. And it hasn't really helped that
- 14:09for a while that Instagram and Threads really stopped
- 14:11recommending political content. I know I'm pulling from the
- 14:14Bloomberg article quite a bit when I am telling you guys this
- 14:18story, but the authors noted in this article that it is really
- 14:22important to have a certain level of enthusiasm built into
- 14:25the culture of the app. And of course, at the end of the
- 14:28day it does benefit users, but I will say it benefits people like
- 14:33Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg more.
- 14:35Speaking to ex Specifically, Lee and Silverman write quote In
- 14:39February, almost a third of submitted community notes were
- 14:42addressing basic terms of service violations such as
- 14:45posting gambling advertisements or warning of, in other words,
- 14:49free labor for the network owned by the world's richest man.
- 14:52Anyway, that is everything from me today.
- 14:55Lauren will speak to you tomorrow.
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