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Ken Rosenthal’s Inside Dish: Ohtani pitching update, deGrom’s misses, O’s extension silence · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Brian Snicker's not in the hot seat. They're not going
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Speaker 1: to fire him. The question with Brian Snicker is going
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Speaker 1: to be will he return next season?
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Speaker 2: That's at the inside scoop with FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal.
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Speaker 2: Freshest article from Ken is up on the athletic right
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Speaker 2: now about Cedric Mullins, who's been with the team for
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Speaker 2: a while now and he went through the really tough
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Speaker 2: tanking times too, So Ken can give us more insight
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Speaker 2: on what you wrote about. And the follow up, of
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Speaker 2: course is where are the extensions? Where are the offers
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Speaker 2: for any of these Orioles players with the new ownership group.
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Speaker 1: Well, with Cedric Muwins, he's been a guy that's been
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Speaker 1: through the thick and thin with them. You were just
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Speaker 1: talking about Justin Steele being there for the difficult years
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Speaker 1: or the mediocre years.
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Speaker 3: Mullens was there.
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Speaker 1: For the really bad years with the Orioles, and of
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Speaker 1: course he is their longest tenured player now. He has
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Speaker 1: been a mainstay in their organization in the Baltimore community.
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Speaker 1: He's quite popular with fans. But the Orioles are a
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Speaker 1: team that has pushed out players like Anthony Santander to
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Speaker 1: free agency. Austin Hayes to trade, and Mullens likely will
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Speaker 1: be the next to go because they have younger players coming.
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Speaker 1: Colton Cowser can take over centerfield. Enrique Bradfield Junior is
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Speaker 1: a top prospect. He's coming a centerfield type as well,
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Speaker 1: so the chances of them resigning Mullens are probably slim.
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Speaker 1: But the point of the article is merely just to
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Speaker 1: point out this guy's had a really nice career for them.
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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one was his best season by far. Hasn't
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Speaker 1: been quite that good since then, but he's off to
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Speaker 1: a great start. He got a huge ovation in their
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Speaker 1: home opener, and it just seems to me that he's
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Speaker 1: one of these guys that gets kind of overlooked.
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Speaker 4: So this guy, I know what he struggled the year before,
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Speaker 4: he had a little problem. I mean, I feel like
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Speaker 4: he is the staple of Orioles right now. And then
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Speaker 4: you know, for him, I love the decision of coming
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Speaker 4: out and saying, hey, listen, I want I want to
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Speaker 4: stay here, you know, And I think that's the comfort
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Speaker 4: level you got to have. But it's ultimately up to
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Speaker 4: the Orioles. They have these prospects coming up too, but
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Speaker 4: don't you want a guy, a veteran guy there to
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Speaker 4: kind of lead the ship as they move forward.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's the question, Todd, and it's a fair question
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Speaker 1: with them because they have an incredibly talented group of
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Speaker 1: young position players. We all know that maybe Adlie Rushman
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Speaker 1: becomes that leader, maybe Gunner Henderson becomes that leader. But
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Speaker 1: you also need the veteran types, the Todd Frazier's and
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Speaker 1: the Eric Kratzes of the world when they were playing
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Speaker 1: to stabilize a clubhouse to be a good influence on
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Speaker 1: younger players. And you can't just all have zero to
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Speaker 1: three guys as far as service time is concerned. You
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Speaker 1: need some veterans as well. The question is whether you
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Speaker 1: want to commit to a center fielder who is thirty
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Speaker 1: years old and at that position that's relatively old. That's
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Speaker 1: an actual age where it becomes kind of a thing
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Speaker 1: that guys don't play that position anymore. So you could
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Speaker 1: move him to a current corner. He does hit for power,
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Speaker 1: but is he what exactly you want in a corner
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Speaker 1: of outfield position. I'm not sure. So it is a
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Speaker 1: very fair question to ask of these guys, the Orioles, Hey,
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Speaker 1: what are you doing here? Who's going to be the leader,
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Speaker 1: who's going to be the guy you latch onto. Because
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Speaker 1: getting back to Scott's original point, they've yet to sign
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Speaker 1: any of their young players to extensions. Gunnar Henderson is
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Speaker 1: a scott Ars client. I seriously doubt he'll sign an
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Speaker 1: extension with the Oriols before becoming a free agent. Rushman
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Speaker 1: is not a Bors client and perhaps would be more
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Speaker 1: open to it, but I don't know where they're at
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Speaker 1: with that, Michaelias. This week, the general manager spoke about
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Speaker 1: how they're trying to do some things along the lines
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Speaker 1: of extensions, and they've been fairly active with it, but
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Speaker 1: to this point, nothing's been done.
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Speaker 3: Do you feel like one last thing on the Oriols
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Speaker 3: do you feel like it's a lack of forward thinking
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Speaker 3: because you said you don't want to have an outfielder
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Speaker 3: like Cedric at thirty four years old, that's what the age.
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Speaker 3: They could have extended him three years ago to age
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Speaker 3: thirty two and just kept him seeing that they were
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Speaker 3: gonna have Adelie coming up, or three years ago Adlie
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Speaker 3: came up, Gunner was coming up, All these guys were
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Speaker 3: coming up. Is it lack of forward thinking or is
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Speaker 3: it a fear of what is to come, and that's
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Speaker 3: not what's going to keep them their job in Baltimore.
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Speaker 1: Eric, my opinion on this would be the biggest driver
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Speaker 1: in what we're talking about is the mere group of
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Speaker 1: young players that they have, the incredible talent that they've
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Speaker 1: been able to draft and develop. And three years ago
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Speaker 1: they could see guys like Cow's are coming. I believe
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Speaker 1: he was drafted by then. They knew what they had,
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Speaker 1: they knew they'd be drafting in the future as well
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Speaker 1: other players. They got Bradfield at believe in two years
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Speaker 1: ago in the draft. So it just seems that's the
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Speaker 1: way they were going. And that keep in mind they
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Speaker 1: had a very different ownership, an ownership that was not
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Speaker 1: willing to spend much money. Now David Rubinstein has been
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Speaker 1: willing to spend within the confines of their market size.
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Speaker 1: Their increase in payroll was the second largest in the
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Speaker 1: majors in the offseason, so you can't say they're being cheap.
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Speaker 1: But they have a model, and it's kind of a
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Speaker 1: small market model, which is understandable given their revenue position
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Speaker 1: and all of that. And I don't know that they
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Speaker 1: want to just take gambles. If you want to call
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Speaker 1: it that on players who are older when they have
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Speaker 1: younger players.
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Speaker 3: Coming ken, Can you remember a series that you are
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Speaker 3: going into and looking at the pitching matchups and being like, whoa,
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Speaker 3: this is the series of pitching matchups for the season
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Speaker 3: lined up for you. You're going into your you're watching the
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Speaker 3: Arrangers and Dodgers here this weekend. Can you remember in
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Speaker 3: a recent past or recent like where you've seen names
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Speaker 3: like this on pitching matchups? First series?
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Speaker 1: My memory on certain things is better than others. It's
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Speaker 1: not great on this one. Now. I do know we
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Speaker 1: have a great matchup tonight Yamamoto de Gram and when
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Speaker 1: we have a great matchup on Fox tomorrow Sasaki and Valdi,
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Speaker 1: and the third matchup as well, Tyler Mally's been arguably
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Speaker 1: the Rangers' best starting pitcher and Tyler Glass now of
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Speaker 1: course is Tyler Glass now? So yeah, it's really good,
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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. I am sure Eric, there
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Speaker 1: have been comparable series in the recent past, but I
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Speaker 1: can't remember exactly. I have a memory for weird things,
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Speaker 1: not always the right things, and I'm not coming up
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Speaker 1: with anything right here.
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Speaker 3: No doubt. I was there today, I've been there before.
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Speaker 4: I want to ask a question here. You got the
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Speaker 4: Grom going tonight, seven earned runs in his last two games.
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Speaker 4: Have you seen anything different from him or you know
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Speaker 4: something that you might be like? Man, you know, I
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Speaker 4: haven't seen this from years ago with the Mets. Now,
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Speaker 4: I mean, he don't feel like he's a dominant pitcher.
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Speaker 4: He gets that length on his fastball and then that
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Speaker 4: slider he likes to use. Have you seen anything different
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Speaker 4: from him? Or it's just the Jacob de Gram of
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Speaker 4: bolt and guys will finding ways to hit him.
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Speaker 1: It seems what he has said is that he just
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Speaker 1: is not locating the way he normally does, and that's
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Speaker 1: been the problem. Now he hasn't pitched much in the
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Speaker 1: last couple of years. Remember he came back at the
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Speaker 1: end of last season, and I would imagine it's somewhat
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Speaker 1: of a challenge for him to find his rhythm again.
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Speaker 1: And that's understandable. But he's still Jacob de Gram. The
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Speaker 1: stuff is still the stuff. And he's talked about kind
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Speaker 1: of pulling back a little bit, maybe not throwing his
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Speaker 1: hard max effort every pitch, which is also understandable given
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Speaker 1: the injury history that he's had. But he is still
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Speaker 1: an upper echolam pitcher in my mind, there's no doubt
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Speaker 1: about that. Went healthy, of course, and I'm anxious to
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Speaker 1: see how he comes out of this, how he pitches
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Speaker 1: the rest of the way, because it just seems to
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Speaker 1: me it might be taking him a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a time, a little bit of time to kind of
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Speaker 1: get going again.
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Speaker 3: What's the main question you would have for Roki Sasaki
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Speaker 3: this early in his big league career if you had
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Speaker 3: an opportunity to sit down with him.
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Speaker 1: That's a good question. I'd like to sit down with him.
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Speaker 1: He's pitching on Fox tomorrow. My main question would be,
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Speaker 1: what do you think is the thing you need to
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Speaker 1: get better at. What is the thing you want to
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Speaker 1: do accomplish this season? Is it adding that slider or
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Speaker 1: incorporating that in a bigger way? Is it simply fastball
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Speaker 1: command and split command? Where are you in the process.
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Speaker 1: What has it been like for you these first four
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Speaker 1: or five stars, How do you think it's gone, and
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Speaker 1: do you feel like things are getting better? That's a
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Speaker 1: lot of questions I've got a lot of questions, so
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Speaker 1: hopefully I can maybe talk to him at some point.
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Speaker 2: Hey, I know it's much easier to talk to Shoeo
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Speaker 2: Tani about his progress. I joke obviously, so he's got
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Speaker 2: a billion media members there. But I'll try and at
10:03
Speaker 2: least get something out of you on this one, because
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Speaker 2: we did learn yesterday that he is still months away plural.
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Speaker 2: Dave Roberts said, hopefully soon he's going to face hitters.
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Speaker 2: Time of return still a couple months away, saying how
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Speaker 2: he knows it's vague, but you can't expect him to
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Speaker 2: pitch this year and in the postseason. What was your
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Speaker 2: reaction to the timetable.
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Speaker 1: Keyword Scott postseason and they're slow playing this. It is
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Speaker 1: not a surprise they want him available for October and
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Speaker 1: it's as simple as that. Could he be ready sooner?
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Speaker 1: I'm sure he could be ready sooner. He's coming off
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Speaker 1: a major elbow surgery, his second one, nothing to be
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Speaker 1: dismissive of. But at the same time, it's been quite
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Speaker 1: some time now, and he is a guy that certainly
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Speaker 1: has progressed. He is throwing, and if they wanted to
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Speaker 1: push him along and bring him back sooner, I'm sure
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Speaker 1: they could. They don't want to. He doesn't want to.
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Speaker 1: His goal is to be on the mound in October
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Speaker 1: and do something that well, Babe Ruth did it, but
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Speaker 1: no one else has done it, pitch and hit in October.
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Speaker 1: So that's where this is at. No one should be
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Speaker 1: surprised hearing the Dodgers there not yet, It's always was
11:17
Speaker 1: always going to be this way.
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Speaker 2: And then one more on this series. Since you're covering
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Speaker 2: it this weekend, there'll be a lot of eyes on it.
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Speaker 2: I want to make sure we give the Rangers some
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Speaker 2: love besides Stagram. What do you think of the state
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Speaker 2: of the Rangers right now? They just swept An Angel's
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Speaker 2: team that was off to a nice start. It doesn't
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Speaker 2: seem like their offense has gotten cranking. Wyatt Langford is
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Speaker 2: on the Men and his rehab appearances right now. It
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Speaker 2: looks like he'll be called up soon. So what do
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Speaker 2: you think of this team early on?
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Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised that they haven't hit the way
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Speaker 1: I expected them to. I believe I picked this team
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Speaker 1: to go to the World Series, and the reason I
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Speaker 1: did was the additions of Jock Peterson and Jake Berger.
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Speaker 1: I thought with that and Langford coming on his second
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Speaker 1: full or really his first full season, that they would
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Speaker 1: be a team that would be back to where they
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Speaker 1: were in twenty twenty three. Offensively, they haven't gotten there yet,
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Speaker 1: but Doos has hit well, Jonahim has hit well. Seger
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Speaker 1: is Seeger, he's been fine. But Marcus Simons been not good.
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Speaker 1: Dock not good, Burger not good. It's early. I would
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Speaker 1: imagine these guys are going to hit. The one thing
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Speaker 1: that they seem to have going for them is pitching depth.
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Speaker 1: And remember they have at this point John Gray on
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Speaker 1: the injured list, Cody Bradford on the injured list. They're
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Speaker 1: coming back, and in addition to those guys, Jack Lighters
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Speaker 1: coming back. He'll be back sooner. And they just feel
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Speaker 1: like at the deadline they don't believe they're going to
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Speaker 1: need pitching now famous last words, right and knock on wood,
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Speaker 1: But they have positioned themselves in a way that they
12:53
Speaker 1: feel like they should be insulated if they lose a
12:55
Speaker 1: guy or two, or if they have to just kind
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Speaker 1: of mix and match the rest of the way as
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Speaker 1: we go forward this season, we'll see. But if they hit,
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Speaker 1: it's a really good team. The bullpen has been better
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Speaker 1: than expected. They had to patch it all together again
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Speaker 1: after losing most of their guys in free agency, So
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Speaker 1: I'm anxious to see how they kind of progress as
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Speaker 1: the season goes along.
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Speaker 4: You did right with the Brian Snicker. You talked about
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Speaker 4: him and how he's on the hot seat a little bit.
13:22
Speaker 4: We just saw Brian day la Cruz go down and
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Speaker 4: then Alex Dugo get recalled up to the big leagues.
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Speaker 4: Was this part of the plan a little bit or
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Speaker 4: was it just a matter you know, Brian day la
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Speaker 4: Cruz not producing a little bit because in the beginning
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Speaker 4: of the year they had a good amount of outfielders
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Speaker 4: out there, you know, that could play, and then all
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Speaker 4: of a sudden they get a guy like Fordugo, a
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Speaker 4: veteran presence.
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Speaker 1: First of all, Todd, Brian stinkers not on the hot seat.
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Speaker 1: They're not going to fire him. The question with Brian
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Speaker 1: Snicker is going to be will he return next season,
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Speaker 1: and it's something where he wants to continue managing. That's
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Speaker 1: going to be the issue, not whether the Braves are
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Speaker 1: going to dump a guy who world serious for them,
14:01
Speaker 1: has won a bunch of division titles for them, has
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Speaker 1: done a tremendous job, so that's not happening now. As
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Speaker 1: for the outfield, Yeah, when they signed for Dogo, sure
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Speaker 1: the intent was to get him up as soon as
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Speaker 1: he was ready. Remember it was a late signing. Brian
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Speaker 1: Delacruz was never someone that you thought would be essential
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Speaker 1: to their picture. The question going forward is going to
14:23
Speaker 1: be Kalenick and can he get going and stave off
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Speaker 1: maybe getting replaced as well because Acuna is coming back
14:29
Speaker 1: at some point now. They're going to need depth, of course,
14:32
Speaker 1: but Kalenick has not been the player that they hoped
14:36
Speaker 1: when they traded for him. They gave him a lot
14:38
Speaker 1: for him where they took on them some money for him,
14:40
Speaker 1: and that's been kind of a vexing problem for them.
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Speaker 1: So that's something I'll watch with them and certainly for Dugo.
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Speaker 1: If he can produce the way he did in the
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Speaker 1: first half of the Yankees last season, he'd be a
14:51
Speaker 1: good addition.
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Speaker 3: Ken real quick. When you go into the locker room,
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Speaker 3: I'm sure you heard about Patrick Corbyn getting bit by
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Speaker 3: the fighter. Great start. Are you gonna check to see
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Speaker 3: if he has a spidy sensus by just like doing
15:05
Speaker 3: any little thing like knocking over a cup to see
15:08
Speaker 3: if he like grabs it or something like that, or
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Speaker 3: are you not into the Marvel superhero comics.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm totally into the Marvel Superheroes comics. But I
15:17
Speaker 1: don't know that I'm planning to ENaC that when I
15:20
Speaker 1: go into the clubhouse today. I don't know that that
15:22
Speaker 1: would be well received or very professional on my part.
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Speaker 1: But all right, I'm glad to see Patrick's Okay, put
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Speaker 1: it that way. And you know what, He's been a
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Speaker 1: nice surprise for them. He's been a guy that they
15:33
Speaker 1: feel getting out of Washington where he kind of had
15:36
Speaker 1: to be the number one where he had the big contract,
15:39
Speaker 1: maybe he'll be freed up a little bit and can
15:40
Speaker 1: be a solid back end piece for them. And I
15:43
Speaker 1: forgot to mention him when going through their rotation, but
15:45
Speaker 1: he's been pretty good so far.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he has right, he's been pitching good innings for them,
15:51
Speaker 2: and Kratz, you should save that question. We'll get Patrick
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Speaker 2: Corbyn on the show if he keeps this up. That
15:56
Speaker 2: is a perfect icebreaker question.
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Speaker 3: I just love that. I just love that Ken likes
16:02
Speaker 3: Marvel T. We made a connection as a kid.
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Speaker 1: I was more of a DC guy. DC comes the Batman, Superman,
16:11
Speaker 1: Green Lantern Flash that group, but Marvel's Marvel, I mean,
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Speaker 1: come on, nothing to sneeze at.
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Speaker 3: Well done, Ken, that's cool.
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Speaker 2: There's always questions from people even when he puts this
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Speaker 2: out and this perfect timing for it. Ken, thank you
16:26
Speaker 2: appreciate the time, by the way, but Fair Territory we
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Speaker 2: always promo obviously after this segment. We always see when
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Speaker 2: you put your question out over the weekend, some people
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Speaker 2: ask personal questions like what.
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Speaker 3: Do you watch?
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Speaker 2: What's Ken about? So we got we got just a
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Speaker 2: little bit, but enjoy the big weekend Dodgers and Rangers. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: thanks on your burners. Thanks Ken. Here it is, by
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Speaker 2: the way, and you will get that tweet over the weekend.
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Speaker 2: So if you have more questions for Ken, he might
16:51
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Speaker 2: hit a show. Hey Otani update, and we'll talk about
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Speaker 2: his card coming up in a moment too. But the
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Speaker 2: legacy continues and the storyline is super fascinating this year,
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Speaker 2: So he's still a couple months away from pitching. According
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Speaker 2: to Dave Roberts, they still expect him to pitch this
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Speaker 2: season and in the playoffs. Timetables are going to be vague.
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Speaker 2: There is no past precedent here, but the Dodgers are
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Speaker 2: determined to get him on the mound at least at
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Speaker 2: some point in the regular season to get ready and
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Speaker 2: geared up for the playoffs. So perhaps we've been following
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Speaker 2: the storyline very closely. What did you think of what
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Speaker 2: Dave Roberts said? First of all, when he gives you,
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Speaker 2: like the a couple months, everyone wants to know, like
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Speaker 2: when when is this happening? So can you start your
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Speaker 2: response with a date of return prediction?
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Speaker 3: They can't. They can't, Dave Roberts, Can.
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Speaker 2: I just give us just you gotta your you play
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Speaker 2: a second analyst per second?
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Speaker 3: And I say August second only because when I was
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Speaker 3: thinking about this, if he's on a six man rotation,
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Speaker 3: you just back everything up. They're probably gonna skip a
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Speaker 3: start in there. To me, that gives him anywhere from
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Speaker 3: seven to eight starts, which kind of looks like the
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Speaker 3: end of spring training to the beginning of the season.
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Speaker 3: They'll know what they have, you know, what if he's
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Speaker 3: not good, it's fine. But to me, I'm seeing seven
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Speaker 3: to eight starts, especially after Wadavid Dave Roberts, who is
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Speaker 3: one of the most upfront and open managers that I've
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Speaker 3: seen talking about things and honestly talking about things. It's
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Speaker 3: such a vague answer that I feel like that's I mean,
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Speaker 3: that's where they're gonna go. Seven to eight starts and
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Speaker 3: if he's legit show Hey, he's starting in the playoffs
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Speaker 3: for them, and the playoff rotation stuff is gonna be
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Speaker 3: easy for him, like in the sense of like there's
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Speaker 3: enough off days to keep him healthy and they just
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Speaker 3: rear go and they give him about four or five
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Speaker 3: postseason starts.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard because you hear from people
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Speaker 4: like maybe he should never pitch again, maybe he should
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Speaker 4: just hit because he's the greatest hitter in the world.
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Speaker 4: I would like to see him give it one more try.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I can't give you a date. I've learned
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Speaker 4: over the years with friends, family, never give a set
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Speaker 4: date because then all of a sudden, if it doesn't
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Speaker 4: happen that time, people are like, what are you talking about?
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Speaker 4: And it's hard. It's hard to do to give a
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Speaker 4: couple of months out. I don't even think Dave Robert
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Speaker 4: should even said that, So I don't know, I don't know.
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Speaker 4: I don't know if there's something else they're hiding. I'm
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Speaker 4: not one hundred percent sure. But he's got to get
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Speaker 4: going if they want him for the playoffs too. So
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Speaker 4: I mean a couple of months would be perfect, But
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Speaker 4: in a perfect world, there really isn't when it comes
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Speaker 4: to pitching on if you've got to be one hundred
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Speaker 4: percent healthy, and he's not going to be one hundred percent.
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Speaker 4: Nobody right now is one hundred percent healthy when they
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Speaker 4: do anything, because spring training comes along and now were
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Speaker 4: almost a month and two as well. So you grinding,
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Speaker 4: you grinding, We'll see, I.
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Speaker 2: Think what you're referring to. And let's look at this
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Speaker 2: Obviously you know the code. We'll talk about it later,
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Speaker 2: but this is something we haven't seen from anyone, especially
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Speaker 2: in modern times. And Todd father doctor Tom House, who
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Speaker 2: has been on this show before and who worked with
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Speaker 2: Nolan Ryan and then worked with the quarterbacks like Brady
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Speaker 2: and Drew Brees.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: He apparently was on a show recently and said that
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Speaker 2: Otani shouldn't throw another pitch. Oh, he was on Pablo
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Speaker 2: Tory's podcast and he said he believes Otani's shoulder can't
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Speaker 2: handle continuing to both hit and to pitch. Now that's
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Speaker 2: his opinion. Nobody's going to be comparing him to someone
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Speaker 2: else because there's no one else to compare him to,
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Speaker 2: and it has not been a clean bill of health
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Speaker 2: for him. So, Kratz, what's your response to what he said?
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Speaker 3: Somebody, somebody with a named doctor in front of their name,
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Speaker 3: probably knows more. But that is tough. Think about it.
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Speaker 3: It'd be different if he was if he was a
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Speaker 3: right handed hitter leading out that left shoulder. He's a
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Speaker 3: right handed hitter. That shoulder is gonna give, you know,
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Speaker 3: get a lot of work going throwing and hitting. Here's
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Speaker 3: my thing. Let him play. If he wants to pitch,
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Speaker 3: let him pitch. We get to see this. This is
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Speaker 3: what he wants to do. He's not doing it just
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Speaker 3: for the team. I mean just for like his glory.
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Speaker 3: He's doing it to help the team. Let him pitch.
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Speaker 3: He is a monster, by the way, Okay, he's like
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Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty five pounds. He's a huge dude.
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Speaker 3: He's not built like pitchers and he's rarely he's he's
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Speaker 3: built like a running back. Really, but maybe he can
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Speaker 3: withstand it. Maybe he is built differently, maybe he's able
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Speaker 3: to handle this. I say, let him go, but that's
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Speaker 3: the fan in me, and it's not me. If he
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Speaker 3: says I don't want to do it, absolutely don't do it.
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Speaker 3: You know, he should know his own body.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think at least another two to three seasons
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