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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April thirteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour
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Speaker 1: and now a guy who's willing to eat some mushrooms
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Speaker 1: just to protect Princess Peach Jay Peace Shack. We're throwing
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Speaker 1: back to Nintendo days with Joe Today. Welcome in. It's
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm j P. Shadrick. We've got a
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Speaker 1: busy hour ahead as we are two weeks to the
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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Jaguars analyst Jeff Logerman coming up. Trevor Seckama
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Speaker 1: will join us from Pro Football Focus and we'll get
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Speaker 1: his thoughts on the NFL Draft and some prospects from
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Speaker 1: different position groups the Jaguars might be leaning towards in
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three NFL Draft. We'll go around the NFL. Also,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Logerman joining us now, and here we are two
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Speaker 1: weeks out. Logs. What's up, man, I'm a little confused.
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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't get the mushroom thing. It's a
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Speaker 1: what it's a what is this reference to? You never
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Speaker 1: played a Nintendo, did you? Mario Brothers? There's a I
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Speaker 1: think there's a movie out now right. I mean I
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Speaker 1: remember watching my son play the Mario Kart so and
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Speaker 1: is that something that's like in the game the mushrooms
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Speaker 1: and the Princess. It's been a while, but yes, okay,
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Speaker 1: all right, explain yourself, Joe. I don't think he you
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Speaker 1: know what, I would have bet all the money in
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Speaker 1: the world you would have got it, and he wouldn't.
1:34
Speaker 1: Because we had a discussion earlier about Jeremy Renner and
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Speaker 1: he has no idea. He claims he has no idea
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Speaker 1: who the Avengers are. I don't watch that stuff, but
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Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I don't. You don't know, as I've
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Speaker 1: never heard of that guy. Okay, yeah, all right, yeah
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Speaker 1: you're not. You're not with the pop called I can
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Speaker 1: tell you, right, yeah, let me tell you. He said,
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Speaker 1: I gotta get out more. I'm like, why do I
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Speaker 1: really have to? I don't think. No, you don't have to.
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Speaker 1: But you know, i'd probably be good for you. What
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Speaker 1: it Yeah, I don't know if it would. Yeah, it
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Speaker 1: might be make them good sheltered, that's fine. Two weeks away.
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Speaker 1: Where a week inside a week now from the start
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Speaker 1: of the off season program. How about that? So Phase
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Speaker 1: one Strength and conditioning starts officially April seventeenth, that's Monday.
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Speaker 1: Players will come in they'll do some physicals. It's volunteery.
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Speaker 1: If they show up, they can do all that. They
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Speaker 1: can start the strength and conditioning and and here we go.
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Speaker 1: It's here. Well, to let me just say this, it's
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Speaker 1: not like the players have been just hanging out at
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Speaker 1: home and eating cheetos and their underwear on the couch,
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Speaker 1: watching commercials and cartoon reruns. I mean the Avengers, Yeah, exactly,
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Speaker 1: they have been. For the most part, all of these
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Speaker 1: guys are working out. And I'm talking when I say
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Speaker 1: working out, they're hardcore working out. I mean the biggest
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Speaker 1: games that you make for the most part as a player,
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Speaker 1: physically happen from the time the season concludes, which you know,
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Speaker 1: can the middle of January, can be first part of February,
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Speaker 1: but that February through April window is really when you
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Speaker 1: can get some really really good work in. When I
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Speaker 1: say good work as far as like strength, building stuff,
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Speaker 1: you're buildings and the mass, the size, the strength. Because
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Speaker 1: once you kind of get into the football side of things,
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Speaker 1: you don't you're not going to make as many games
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Speaker 1: because you're dedicating a lot of your energy towards practice
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Speaker 1: and the techniques of playing the game. You can still
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Speaker 1: work on to some extent, but you can really get
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Speaker 1: after the hardcore strength and conditioning stuff in that February
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Speaker 1: March window. There's a lot of players do I mean,
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Speaker 1: most of these guys nowadays, they don't quit when the
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Speaker 1: season ends. They might take a week or so and
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Speaker 1: have a little time to kind of recover, and then
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Speaker 1: after that they're they're for the most part working with
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Speaker 1: personal trainers or personal training facilities and getting after it NonStop.
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Speaker 1: Of course, a couple weeks for phase one that's strength conditioning,
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Speaker 1: that a couple of weeks. Phase two there is some
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Speaker 1: on field stuff, but nothing against a defender or anything
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Speaker 1: like that. And then Phase three OTAs that starts May
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Speaker 1: twenty second. That's only a month or so out. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I like the way that the collective bargaining agreement
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Speaker 1: has kind of made everything very standard for all the teams.
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Speaker 1: And obviously there's a little distinction when you have a
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Speaker 1: new coach. You're a lot a little bit extra when
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Speaker 1: you have a new coach and staff. But I like
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Speaker 1: the way that the NFLPA and ownership has agreed upon
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Speaker 1: this collective bargain agreement. And Sally would argue against it
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Speaker 1: because he likes to see more of the practice stuff.
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Speaker 1: But I like it where it's control because you still
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Speaker 1: have plenty of opportunity for practice with the OTAs and
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Speaker 1: the mandatory mini camp and a lot of that goes
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Speaker 1: throughout the month of May and into June and then
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Speaker 1: you get a little bit of a break and you're
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Speaker 1: right back at it again in July. It's thirteen total
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Speaker 1: practices from OTAs and the three day mini camp if
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Speaker 1: you want them all. And of course last year Doug
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Speaker 1: Peterson said, hey veterans, we're we're not gonna do much
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Speaker 1: on the mandatory mini camp days. Yeah, it's you know,
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Speaker 1: the coaches like to quote throwbone to the veteran guys.
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Speaker 1: And because when one coach does it and other teams
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Speaker 1: don't get it, then there other players like I don't
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Speaker 1: want to say groaning, but are a little bit maybe
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Speaker 1: jealous of other teams that get a little bit more
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Speaker 1: time off. But it's but it's it's it's great work
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Speaker 1: and it's uh, it's good to have the OTA stuff.
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Speaker 1: I love it. And the Tom Coughlin rule is also
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Speaker 1: in place now which prohibits teams from having their OTAs
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Speaker 1: and their mini camp and then starting training camp earlier
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Speaker 1: than what it was designed to start. Feel like, there's
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Speaker 1: a few Tom Coughlin rules. That's the big one. There's
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Speaker 1: probably a few. Yeah, well, you know, back in nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety five. To give the quick story here, in nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety five, you had your required days or your voluntary
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Speaker 1: days of on the field activities, which is basically OTAs,
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Speaker 1: and then you had your mini camps. Well, Tom exhausted
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Speaker 1: all of those. And then once we finished our last
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Speaker 1: mini camp, he was handing out plane tickets or they
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Speaker 1: were handing out plane tickets. The staff were to the
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Speaker 1: players to report the Stevens Point, Wisconsin, it was actually
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Speaker 1: I think five or six days prior to the mandatory
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Speaker 1: report days. So he was essentially trying to get a
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Speaker 1: sneak in an extra five or six days more than
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Speaker 1: every other team in the league. And so the league
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Speaker 1: had to come in after that season and then say
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Speaker 1: look all right, we can't we can't have Okay, you're
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Speaker 1: allowed to have fourteen days in this window and then
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Speaker 1: you can start training camp. You can't start training camp earlier.
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Speaker 1: So that I call that to Tom Coughlin, the loophole.
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Speaker 1: They closed it up in a hurry, close it up, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: do you buy the any chemistry that's built in the
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Speaker 1: offseason program? Can that carry over? Yeah? Absolutely. I Mean
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Speaker 1: when guys spend time together, they feel obligated to perform
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Speaker 1: for one another, and that's important a lot of times
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Speaker 1: if you have guys that just come in together in
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Speaker 1: August or July when training camp starts, and then you
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Speaker 1: know a lot of time they're spending that time getting
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Speaker 1: to know one another. Sometimes the unspoken words is a
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Speaker 1: very strong way of communicating with guys. And so when
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Speaker 1: you are alongside somebody, you know what the expectations are.
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Speaker 1: You kind of get to understand some of the body
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Speaker 1: language just with a look on a face. Sometimes between
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver and a quarterback. If Christian Kirk is
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Speaker 1: looking out there and he sees Trevor and you know,
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Speaker 1: Trevor gives him one particular kind of look, Christian's gonna
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Speaker 1: know it without really even I mean, he's not a
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Speaker 1: lip reader or anything, but he can read the facial
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Speaker 1: expression because they they spent time together before. But absolutely,
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Speaker 1: and that's the I think Doug Peterson a few people
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Speaker 1: talked about it at the end of the season. The
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Speaker 1: next step for this offense is those little nuances and
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Speaker 1: taking the next step, and that's exactly where it built. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: just like that. I mean, you know, for example, let's
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Speaker 1: say there was a route of Just on there's a
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Speaker 1: coverage and there's a route of just and Trevor kind
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Speaker 1: of just gives him a wink, and Christian knows what
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Speaker 1: that wink is because they've worked on it in the
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Speaker 1: off season together, above and beyond just trying to learn
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Speaker 1: the standard scheme. So I mean this is you know again,
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Speaker 1: it's it's we talked about this before, but I call
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Speaker 1: it the next level stuff. You know, when you're getting
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Speaker 1: the game plan and understanding the game plan, you're at
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Speaker 1: the one on one level. Then all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: now you start going up to the two of one
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Speaker 1: to three h one to four hundred level and five
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Speaker 1: hundred level classes, and now you can really take your
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Speaker 1: offense and your productivity to a new level because you
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Speaker 1: have a lot of that stuff that's already been kind
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Speaker 1: of worked over and gone over and now it's understood.
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Speaker 1: Now you're working on more stuff. It's like one of
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Speaker 1: those meme winks where it's like, yeah, hey, I'm throwing
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Speaker 1: to you know, uh, throwing to you zay right, get ready? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's that's those looks man. You know, and uh and
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Speaker 1: I will say this too. A lot of times a
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Speaker 1: quarterback has to learn how guys run routes just you know,
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Speaker 1: for example, with Calvin Ridley, it's gonna take a little time.
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Speaker 1: The time that they can spend together this offseason, the more,
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Speaker 1: you know, hitting the ground running kind of kind of
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Speaker 1: a theme here when you get to the regular season,
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Speaker 1: because if you can spend time running the routes, now
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Speaker 1: Trevor can understand how he runs the routes, but also
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Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley can understand how Trevor wants the routes run,
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Speaker 1: how the coaching staff wants the routes run, and Trevor
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Speaker 1: may know exactly where Calvin Ridley can really excel where
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Speaker 1: the ball placement, I mean things things like that. You know,
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Speaker 1: you can't you can't make chemistry unless you have the
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Speaker 1: time spent together, you know, the tst. If you don't
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Speaker 1: have that, then it's hard to create all that chemistry.
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Speaker 1: Jaguars at number twenty four in the first round of
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Speaker 1: schedule to make an appearance on stage before the pick
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Speaker 1: has made at twenty four, so we'll get to hear
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Speaker 1: from the head coach select Jaguars players throughout the nine.
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Speaker 1: it's over, you know, So that's a good thing about it.
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Speaker 1: And and so now you can actually you know, and
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of excitement building towards what's going to
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are not picking early about last year. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: party's over, first pick. Okay, wait, the Jags traded back
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Speaker 1: into the first round, a lot of people would already gone.
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Speaker 1: It was closed, Like we had to do the update
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Speaker 1: in an empty place. We had had a pretty good
12:00
Speaker 1: idea that the Jaguars could trade back into round one
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Speaker 1: to make another pick, and they ended up doing that
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Speaker 1: and and getting Devin Lloyd and and by that time
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Speaker 1: a lot of people are like they had already headed out.
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Speaker 1: But remember exactly close to where the Jaguars are gonna
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Speaker 1: be there two weeks from now, so that's the time
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Speaker 1: of night is gonna be pretty late. Yeah, it's I
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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be an interesting draft just from the
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Speaker 1: quarterback standpoint, because you know, you got, you know, the
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Speaker 1: two the two quarterbacks at the top, which are gonna
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Speaker 1: be Young and then uh, Bryce Young and Stroud, those
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Speaker 1: two guys are gonna go one two. I don't know
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Speaker 1: how exact order I would pick Stroud if I had
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Speaker 1: the first pick. But Bryce Young, your guy. Alabama is
12:44
Speaker 1: keep saying it's an Alabama guy. I went there twenty
12:47
Speaker 1: years ago. Dah, you're jp. You are an Alabama guy,
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Speaker 1: and and don't act like you're not. I went there,
12:52
Speaker 1: I know. But you could you could sit there and
12:55
Speaker 1: get give me the U the entire life history of
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Speaker 1: Bryce Young. No, I couldn't do that. You probably could,
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Speaker 1: you got but you're an Alabama guy, So I know
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Speaker 1: he's your guy. But my point is is that at
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Speaker 1: the top of the draft, it's gonna be I think,
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Speaker 1: very interesting with the one two quarterbacks because it's gonna
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Speaker 1: go one two, I'm pretty sure. I don't know exact order.
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Speaker 1: But then then all of a sudden is the interesting
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Speaker 1: question is what's going to happen with the other three
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are viewed as can't miss first round picks.
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Speaker 1: You know, Anthony Richardson and the guy that's got all
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Speaker 1: this immense talent who's a great athlete, you know, kind
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Speaker 1: of the rebirth of Cam Newton. What's going to happen
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Speaker 1: with Levis the Kentucky quarterback, or Hendon Hooker, the quarterback
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Speaker 1: from Tennessee. I mean, it's it's going to be interesting.
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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll hear from somebody who talks
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Speaker 1: options at number twenty four. That's next on Jaguars Happy Hour,
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Sports Talk for Jacksonville sports fans ten ten XOL,
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Speaker 1: home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Welcome back at Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, two weeks to the NFL Draft JP Shadrick,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Lageman, Glad you're along with us, David Choe, Brent
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Speaker 1: Rebrun the video side, Joe Fortunato on the audio. Two
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Speaker 1: weeks to the draft. That means it is prime time
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Speaker 1: for our guest tonight host an analyst for Pro Football Focus,
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Speaker 1: Trevor Sekima, joining us. Now, good to talk to you again, Trevor,
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Speaker 1: and boy, I don't know if you're excited for this
15:14
Speaker 1: thing to finally get here or to be over, or
15:17
Speaker 1: is this this is your wheelhouse right now. Right, it's
15:21
Speaker 1: a good mix of both. I appreciate you guys having
15:23
Speaker 1: me on. Always always fun to talk about with you guys.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's it's a good mix of both.
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Speaker 1: Whenever you get into the month of April, you definitely
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Speaker 1: can't wait for it to be over. But at the
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Speaker 1: same time, getting to do stuff like this and talk
15:35
Speaker 1: about the possibilities of what is the upcoming NFL draft,
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Speaker 1: that's the fun part. So I definitely enjoyed along the way,
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Speaker 1: no matter where we are in the process. Trevor, the
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Speaker 1: intrigue at the top of the draft with really the
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Speaker 1: four big quarterbacks, with Stroud and Young and Levice and Richardson,
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Speaker 1: Where do you think that these kind of cards are
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Speaker 1: gonna fall at the top of the draft. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: think Bryce is going to go number one. You know.
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Speaker 1: I felt like it was very interesting that Carolina immediately
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Speaker 1: trades up to number one overall, and then we hear
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Speaker 1: about all the other quarterbacks. Oh they could be it
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Speaker 1: on Strout. Oh they're gonna love Anthony Richardson's potential. Oh
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Speaker 1: maybe some people in the building love Levis. Nobody was
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Speaker 1: talking about Bryce, And I think it's because we were bored.
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Speaker 1: And I really do think that when it's all said
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Speaker 1: and done, Brians Young is going to be the number
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Speaker 1: one quarterback in the number one pick in this draft.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that C. J. Stroud and Anthony and
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Speaker 1: Richardson are going to be too far behind. I think
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Speaker 1: those guys are destined for the top five as well
16:29
Speaker 1: as for Richardson. As for Levis, I think his range
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Speaker 1: is anywhere from you know, number seven with the Las
16:35
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders, all the way through the top twenty. You
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Speaker 1: know who knows eventually where he is going to go.
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Speaker 1: But I do think all four of these guys are
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Speaker 1: going to come off the board somewhere within the top twenty.
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Speaker 1: We'll just have to see how in on this quarterback
16:47
Speaker 1: class the rest of the league really is. I think
16:50
Speaker 1: it's always interesting and that sometimes a lot of draft
16:52
Speaker 1: people want to try to predict the pick, so they
16:55
Speaker 1: want to kind of figure out exactly what Carolina is doing.
16:58
Speaker 1: But Trevor, if you were picking number one overall, which
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Speaker 1: quarterback would you pick? Huh? I would still be taking
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Speaker 1: Bryce And I've been standing on this table the whole time.
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Speaker 1: I really would this guy has been too good over
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Speaker 1: the last two years for me to not pick him.
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Speaker 1: You look at the other quarterbacks and they've all got
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Speaker 1: their pros and cons, and of course Bryce does as well.
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Speaker 1: But you know his cons are all right, He's not
17:21
Speaker 1: as big as you want for the position. And the
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Speaker 1: biggest con with Bryce Young in his scouting report is, well,
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Speaker 1: is he going to get hurt? I'm not gonna let
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Speaker 1: myself pass on the best player in college football over
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years on an if. I mean,
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Speaker 1: anybody can get hurt in this league. It is the
17:38
Speaker 1: biggest fastest athletes that we have in the world to
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Speaker 1: come together in the NFL, and anybody can get hurt
17:43
Speaker 1: any given play, any given Sunday. So I understand that
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Speaker 1: it is a concern with his durability and where his
17:49
Speaker 1: weight is, where his height is. But man, the height
17:51
Speaker 1: didn't seem to be an issue because when you look
17:53
Speaker 1: at smaller quarterbacks, you say, all right, they can't see
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Speaker 1: over the line scrimmage, they can't attack the middle of
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Speaker 1: the field consistently. Bryce Young absolutely did that. So the
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Speaker 1: only thing on his scouting report that I think is
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Speaker 1: that negative is that big, Oh, is he going to
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Speaker 1: get hurt? That's not enough for me to pass on
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Speaker 1: him as the top choice in this class. So even
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Speaker 1: if it was a what I would do situation, I'd
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Speaker 1: be taking Bryce Young Trevor second one with US Pro
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Speaker 1: Football Focus give him a follow at Tampa Bay Trey
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Speaker 1: tr on Twitter. Well, fortunately, Trevor, the Jaguars have a
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Speaker 1: Trevor in the backfield at quarterback. They don't have to
18:26
Speaker 1: worry about the top of the draft this year. Two
18:28
Speaker 1: years in a row, the number one overall pick. This
18:30
Speaker 1: year a much different feel at twenty fourth overall. So
18:35
Speaker 1: you know, how deep does the blue chip first round
18:39
Speaker 1: talent actually go? Some years it's deeper than others. Where
18:42
Speaker 1: does it stand this year in your opinion? Man? In
18:45
Speaker 1: terms of blue chip prospects, which are those guys at
18:47
Speaker 1: the very top who look the NFL Draft is never
18:51
Speaker 1: any sort of guarantee, But it's the guys that you
18:53
Speaker 1: think would be NFL draft or bust proof. Jalan Carter,
18:56
Speaker 1: Will Anderson and be Jean Robinson have the tape that,
18:59
Speaker 1: if you like it, tells you they are impactful enough.
19:01
Speaker 1: They are talented enough to earn that blue chip label.
19:04
Speaker 1: After that, I think there's a decent amount of first
19:06
Speaker 1: round grades, but still they all come with their pros
19:09
Speaker 1: and cons. This doesn't seem to be the deepest class
19:12
Speaker 1: in the NFL when it comes to those first round grades.
19:15
Speaker 1: I wonder if teams across the league are going to
19:16
Speaker 1: have an average of somewhere around twenty, whereas in other
19:19
Speaker 1: years you can get a lot closer to thirty thirty
19:21
Speaker 1: five number when it's really rich classes. And so I
19:24
Speaker 1: would say that the first round grades are probably gonna
19:26
Speaker 1: be a little bit less this year, but that doesn't
19:28
Speaker 1: mean there's still not going to be some damn good
19:30
Speaker 1: defensive players. Specifically on defense, I should say that you
19:34
Speaker 1: can get in the back half of the first round
19:36
Speaker 1: early part of the second round, because that's what it
19:38
Speaker 1: feels like the sweet spot is for a lot of
19:40
Speaker 1: these guys. Well, it may not be a deep class
19:42
Speaker 1: for potential first round grades, but Trevor, the one position
19:45
Speaker 1: that seems to be incredibly deep is the cornerback position,
19:49
Speaker 1: which that's a position of need for the Jaguars. Who
19:52
Speaker 1: might be available for the Jaguars at their pick. Yeah,
19:55
Speaker 1: so it's a great year to need a corner I think,
19:58
Speaker 1: of all shapes and sizes, a great year to need
20:00
Speaker 1: outside corners is great year to need Nick Corners because
20:04
Speaker 1: you got a wide variety of guys to choose from.
20:06
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the guys at the top Jacks
20:08
Speaker 1: probably won't have their chance to get guys like Devon Witherspoon,
20:11
Speaker 1: guys like Christian Gonzalez. I would say, Joey Porter Junior
20:14
Speaker 1: and even DeVante Banks. You're probably gonna be off the
20:16
Speaker 1: board by the time that they pick. But if you
20:18
Speaker 1: want to take a chance on a guy like Emmanuel
20:20
Speaker 1: Forbes in the first round, he's an outside corner, that
20:22
Speaker 1: could be very intriguing. But when it comes to that
20:24
Speaker 1: slot options and that feels like that's what Jacksonville might
20:27
Speaker 1: need immediately on this roster, and there's a lot of
20:30
Speaker 1: different guys to choose from. Brian Branch feels like the
20:33
Speaker 1: easy home run pick for the Jacks if they can
20:35
Speaker 1: get him. About as reliable as they come, comes from
20:37
Speaker 1: that Nick Saban defense at Alabama had so much responsibility
20:41
Speaker 1: in the slot, played it very smart. I think the
20:43
Speaker 1: combines freaking people out a little bit because he didn't
20:45
Speaker 1: test as well as we thought he was going to
20:48
Speaker 1: trust a tape on Brian Branch, He's going to be
20:49
Speaker 1: incredible in the NFL. I fully believe that you've also
20:52
Speaker 1: got guys like Clark Phillips, a corner who's a little
20:54
Speaker 1: bit smaller, feisty, but you love him as a potential
20:56
Speaker 1: slot guy. Another safety and Antonio Johnson say and m
21:00
Speaker 1: who's a bigger bodied guy can line up against those
21:03
Speaker 1: tight ends and big bodied wide receivers teams love to
21:05
Speaker 1: put as the wide receiver two or wide receiver three
21:08
Speaker 1: to the inside of the formation. There's just a lot
21:10
Speaker 1: of different guys that choose from at the slot. So
21:13
Speaker 1: even if Jags fans out there might really want a
21:15
Speaker 1: corner and they start seeing guys run on corners early
21:19
Speaker 1: in the drafts, okay, you can still get one at
21:21
Speaker 1: the back end of the first round. That's really going
21:22
Speaker 1: to help out your secondary. How concerned are you with
21:25
Speaker 1: Emmanual Forbes of Mississippi State and his slight frame. Let's say,
21:30
Speaker 1: what is he a buck seventy? Yeah, I mean he's
21:33
Speaker 1: a buck seventy. I feel like on a good day
21:35
Speaker 1: at this point, there's no doubt about it that he's
21:36
Speaker 1: got to get bigger, and he's a great natural athlete.
21:39
Speaker 1: He's got a baseball background. It's just He's played multiple sports,
21:42
Speaker 1: and nobody's really had better ball production than him over
21:45
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Now, of course, we know
21:47
Speaker 1: that interceptions aren't always just on the cornerback. Sometimes it's
21:51
Speaker 1: right place, right time, and that did happen plenty in
21:53
Speaker 1: immanual Forbes take. But he's feisty, he never backs down
21:56
Speaker 1: and ensure in run defense, you'd say, hey, I wish
21:58
Speaker 1: he had a little bit more strength, But it's not
22:00
Speaker 1: like a lack of willingness for him when it comes
22:03
Speaker 1: to making those plays on the ball, or at least
22:05
Speaker 1: being around the ball, and you've got to get him
22:07
Speaker 1: up into the at least mid seven. He's try to
22:09
Speaker 1: get up into one eighty range, because that's really what
22:12
Speaker 1: it feels like he's gonna need to survive. You can't
22:14
Speaker 1: really play this guy on the outside against press coverage
22:17
Speaker 1: because these NFL receivers they're just too big and too fast.
22:20
Speaker 1: I'm afraid he's just gonna get bullied at the line
22:22
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and at the catchpoint, and that's going to
22:24
Speaker 1: neutralize a lot of good things that he brings to
22:27
Speaker 1: the table. He's really athletic, dude. His recovery speed is
22:30
Speaker 1: some of the best in this class, and he's got
22:32
Speaker 1: the longer arms to really be able to affect those
22:35
Speaker 1: catchpoints and get forcing completions. So there's good things about Forbes,
22:39
Speaker 1: But to your point, there's no doubt about it. The
22:40
Speaker 1: weight is an issue, and I do think we got
22:43
Speaker 1: to get that up a little bit if he's gonna
22:45
Speaker 1: be able to achieve what he wants to at the
22:47
Speaker 1: NFL level. And there's a lot of philosophies when it
22:50
Speaker 1: comes to kind of putting your plan together as far
22:53
Speaker 1: as drafting, and one of the plans that most teams
22:56
Speaker 1: may take because the corner class is deep, they may
22:58
Speaker 1: choose to wait and try to get one later. On
23:01
Speaker 1: offensive line, the big guys are always kind of few
23:03
Speaker 1: and far between. How does the offensive line class look
23:07
Speaker 1: for a Jaguar possibility of them picking one there at
23:10
Speaker 1: twenty four, Yeah, I think that this is certainly if
23:13
Speaker 1: they want an offensive tackle, there is a decent chance
23:16
Speaker 1: that they could get a good one there in the
23:18
Speaker 1: mid twenties. Because for a long time we've been talking
23:21
Speaker 1: about these big three with offensive tackle Peter Scronsky, Paris
23:24
Speaker 1: Johnson Junior, and Roderick Jones. I would expand it to
23:27
Speaker 1: a big five. I really think that you could throw
23:30
Speaker 1: Darnell Right in there, and you can throw Anton Harrison
23:33
Speaker 1: in there as well. Both of those players talented enough
23:35
Speaker 1: to be early starters in the NFL. They both got experienced,
23:38
Speaker 1: are both battle tested, and I think that that creates
23:41
Speaker 1: a big five of offensive tackles that we could all
23:44
Speaker 1: see go in the first round and maybe there'll be
23:46
Speaker 1: a super early run like we saw a couple of
23:48
Speaker 1: years ago with the Jedrick Wills and Andrew Thomas, Tristan
23:50
Speaker 1: worrisom Kay Beckton class. But there's still a chance, and
23:53
Speaker 1: I think one of those guys could be available for
23:55
Speaker 1: the Jags. So you're losing Juan Taylor, you might want
23:58
Speaker 1: to replace him. I know they got Walker a little bit.
23:59
Speaker 1: If you want to get some more offensive tackle talent
24:02
Speaker 1: in there, they could definitely hit that in the first round.
24:05
Speaker 1: I think that's possible. If it's down to Darnell Right
24:08
Speaker 1: of Tennessee and Dewan Jones of Ohio State, which way
24:12
Speaker 1: would you lean? Oh Man, I would easily be putting
24:15
Speaker 1: in the card for Darnell Right. He is one of
24:17
Speaker 1: my favorite players in this class. I've got him as
24:20
Speaker 1: the second rated offensive tackle in this class, so he's OT.
24:22
Speaker 1: Two on my board. I just feel like he's a
24:25
Speaker 1: five star recruise. So he's got that athletic background, that
24:27
Speaker 1: high pedigree coming into Tennessee. He was so battle tested
24:31
Speaker 1: this past year against some of the best pass pressers
24:33
Speaker 1: in the SEC Bjojulari, Will Anderson in. The list could
24:36
Speaker 1: go on and on. He is a big, mean offensive
24:40
Speaker 1: tackle who loves to take the fight to the pass
24:43
Speaker 1: rushers that are coming at him. He is the embodiment
24:46
Speaker 1: of the phrase that you hear all the time, the
24:48
Speaker 1: pass protection isn't passive. He'll yeah, get into his kickslide
24:51
Speaker 1: a little bit, but if you're taking a little while,
24:53
Speaker 1: if you're trying to get too many steps to steam
24:55
Speaker 1: to convert that speed to power, he'll stick his arm
24:58
Speaker 1: out and he'll punch you right in the chest and
24:59
Speaker 1: he'll make that you feel him very early and often.
25:03
Speaker 1: So I just feel like his demeanor, his mentality, his anchorability,
25:07
Speaker 1: and also how well he moves his feet when he
25:09
Speaker 1: wants to. He feels like the total package offensive tackle.
25:12
Speaker 1: So I got him at OT. Two in this class.
25:14
Speaker 1: You get him in the twenties. That's the Steel. To me,
25:17
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter is kind of a big question mark in
25:20
Speaker 1: this draft, Trevor, and where do you see him going
25:23
Speaker 1: a little question about his background, but I don't think
25:25
Speaker 1: there's any question about his talent. No on the field again,
25:29
Speaker 1: blue chip player. I mean, there's just not many who
25:32
Speaker 1: can disrupt from the three technique position that he can't
25:35
Speaker 1: that he does. And so when you look at where
25:37
Speaker 1: he's going to go in this draft, he the over
25:40
Speaker 1: right now, over under right now, depending on where you look,
25:42
Speaker 1: it's around six and a half, seven and a half.
25:44
Speaker 1: I think that's right because right before six and a half,
25:47
Speaker 1: you get the Lions sitting at six, you get the
25:49
Speaker 1: Seahawks sitting at five, and just after that you got
25:52
Speaker 1: a handful of teams Atlanta sitting there at eight, certainly
25:54
Speaker 1: Philadelphia sitting there at ten, Chicago at nine, Tennessee at eleven.
25:59
Speaker 1: All of these teams would want a player like Jaleen Carter.
26:02
Speaker 1: So I feel like that range is about correct. You'll
26:05
Speaker 1: say the top twelve no matter what, it feels like
26:07
Speaker 1: a lock unless we learned something else about some off
26:10
Speaker 1: the field things with Jaleen Carter. But as of right now,
26:13
Speaker 1: I would tell you. I still believe he's going to
26:15
Speaker 1: be a top eight pick. I still feel as though
26:18
Speaker 1: one of the Detroit Lions in the Seattle Seahawks at
26:21
Speaker 1: five or six are gonna be who wants to pull
26:23
Speaker 1: the trick on? Boy? Can you imagine Detroit fans having
26:26
Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson last year and then Jalen Carter this year?
26:30
Speaker 1: I mean, an outside guy, an inside guy? Holy cow?
26:33
Speaker 1: Will they be happy? Dangerous? Yeah? Yeah, dangerous? And it's
26:36
Speaker 1: not just them either. You gotta lean McNeil on that
26:38
Speaker 1: defensive line. You got James Houston who's going crazy with
26:41
Speaker 1: the sacks last year as well, So that makes one
26:44
Speaker 1: hell of a pass rush group. If they can add
26:45
Speaker 1: Carter to that, no doubt. Not on the schedule next year,
26:47
Speaker 1: are they? I don't think so. It didn't go so
26:51
Speaker 1: well in Detroit. Oh it didn't last year for sure. Hey,
26:54
Speaker 1: Trevor's second went Pro Football Focus. What do you guys
26:56
Speaker 1: have the next couple of weeks leading into the draft.
26:58
Speaker 1: Oh man, we got all sorts of good stuff, of course,
27:01
Speaker 1: the final mock drafts, the final big boards, our final predictions,
27:04
Speaker 1: and as we learn about what we think is going
27:06
Speaker 1: to happen on draft day. We're letting everybody know over
27:09
Speaker 1: at PF dot com and on our podcast show as well,
27:12
Speaker 1: the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. Give him a follow at
27:16
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Trey. If you don't, I don't know why
27:18
Speaker 1: you don't. He's a fantastic follow on Twitter. And you
27:21
Speaker 1: guys do a great job at Pro Football Focus. Thanks
27:23
Speaker 1: for the time, Trevor. Appreciate it, guys anytime Trevor sec
27:26
Speaker 1: p f F joining us getting ready for the draft.
27:30
Speaker 1: And that's a good visit right there. Well, first of all,
27:33
Speaker 1: he's you can tell that he studied and he pays
27:36
Speaker 1: attention and he follows everything. But but most importantly PFF's
27:39
Speaker 1: website is I was telling you earlier when when I
27:43
Speaker 1: watch college film on one particular guy, for example of
27:47
Speaker 1: watching Hendon Hooker and they're playing the Alabama and so
27:53
Speaker 1: I said, okay, let me see who is all in
27:55
Speaker 1: Alabama the draft bull grades, and so you pull up
27:57
Speaker 1: the guys on defense and with PF and actually go
28:00
Speaker 1: to the school and say, okay, Alabama, and it will
28:03
Speaker 1: list exactly every draftable guy and where their ranking is
28:07
Speaker 1: on the draft and the position and the breakdown. So
28:10
Speaker 1: when I watched the film and of course with Alabama,
28:13
Speaker 1: it's kind of ridiculous JP when you watch their defense,
28:16
Speaker 1: there's like a guy that all have a draftable grade
28:20
Speaker 1: next year, the rest of them. But PFF's got a great,
28:22
Speaker 1: great website. Their draft analysis stuff is really nice for
28:26
Speaker 1: reference stuff. You can pick best available player, all positions,
28:30
Speaker 1: you can narrow it down to single positions. They got
28:33
Speaker 1: a really user friendly website if people are interested in
28:37
Speaker 1: checking it out and being kind of a little bit
28:38
Speaker 1: of a draftnick, I strongly recommend PFS website. I strongly
28:44
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29:11
Speaker 1: been grinding in the film room. It sounds like cornerbacks.
29:14
Speaker 1: We'll get into which defensive back could be best. That's
29:18
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29:35
Speaker 1: I can see my I see my name in it.
29:39
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's funny. I'm over there. Look at my
29:44
Speaker 1: name is right down. Love that. I really love that.
29:51
Speaker 1: I've seen that from the room. Really is here about
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Speaker 1: scouting combine with GM Trent ball key head coach Doug
30:20
Speaker 1: Peterson and the process of getting the offseason started, including
30:24
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley being reinstated and arriving in Jacksonville, and as
30:28
Speaker 1: you heard, seeing his name on the video board for
30:31
Speaker 1: the first time really got to him. He said, he's
30:33
Speaker 1: gonna send a picture to his Mom's pretty cool. Yeah,
30:35
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. And he's already jumped right on the
30:39
Speaker 1: number zero. He was I think the first one in
30:41
Speaker 1: the league, like when the rule changed like ten minutes later.
30:45
Speaker 1: Jaguars social media, by the way, congratulations to them really
30:48
Speaker 1: putting it all together the digital side. Everybody made it work,
30:51
Speaker 1: and he was the first one boom, he's out number zero.
30:54
Speaker 1: The equipment guy should have put it out the bid side, Kitty.
31:00
Speaker 1: I guarantee you they would have raised a lot of
31:02
Speaker 1: good money for charity. If Jay said, okay, guys, number
31:06
Speaker 1: of zero is now available. We're taking bits and the
31:10
Speaker 1: proceeds are gonna go to the Jaguars Foundation. Oh yeah, see,
31:15
Speaker 1: that would have been a great idea. I thought you
31:16
Speaker 1: were insinuating that the equipment staff is going to keep
31:19
Speaker 1: it all to the Jags equipment fifty raffle like the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Foundation does on game day. Those fifty percent go
31:27
Speaker 1: to the guys in the equipment room. Fifty percent. That's
31:30
Speaker 1: how it will work. Okay, Yeah, I'm trying to help
31:33
Speaker 1: the guys out of equippal or maybe he maybe maybe
31:35
Speaker 1: Calvin was like, here's the money, I'm doing it. Yeah yeah,
31:38
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I mean they should have put
31:40
Speaker 1: it out for a bit. Excited to hear from Calvin Ridley,
31:42
Speaker 1: By the way, we haven't excited to see him. Bucky
31:46
Speaker 1: Brooks had the conversation with him when he arrived, and
31:49
Speaker 1: he has not spoken with the media yet here in Jacksonville.
31:51
Speaker 1: I think they're expected to have some media time, maybe
31:54
Speaker 1: next week, And I think Calvin might be one of
31:56
Speaker 1: those guys. Oh, I'm sure he will, and and I'm
31:58
Speaker 1: sure he's excited to get back to work and kind
32:00
Speaker 1: of put everything kind of behind him and focus in
32:03
Speaker 1: on the future. But look, he's been he's been a
32:06
Speaker 1: wonderful player. And his work ethic, from what everybody tells me,
32:10
Speaker 1: is that it's outstanding, and that's that's a real positive.
32:13
Speaker 1: And he's been a top level player. He's a number
32:17
Speaker 1: one type wide receiver. And with the Jaguars current wide
32:21
Speaker 1: receiving corps and the tight end, I mean, look, this
32:24
Speaker 1: could be a great situation and Trevor would have a
32:27
Speaker 1: whole array of weapons to choose from, and that's exactly
32:31
Speaker 1: what you want for a young talented quarterback. I'm gonna
32:35
Speaker 1: kind of go off the cuff here and a little
32:37
Speaker 1: trivia for you. Luck see if you're good at NFL history.
32:40
Speaker 1: Offensive history. Okay, the last NFL team with three offensive
32:46
Speaker 1: players over one thousand receiving yards, that's a great question.
32:56
Speaker 1: I don't know, two thousand and eight Arizona Hardnals, Larry,
33:02
Speaker 1: that's right, and they were the fifth all time to
33:05
Speaker 1: do it. There's only been five, the did the Redskins
33:09
Speaker 1: when they had the fun bunch to it? Nineteen eighty nine,
33:12
Speaker 1: I thought, and the Cardinals. And I'm trying to think
33:16
Speaker 1: who the other wide receivers were of Larry Fitzgerald and
33:19
Speaker 1: k Steve Breston had just over a thousand yards Prestons.
33:25
Speaker 1: Who are the other teams? Nineteen eighty San Diego Kellen Winslow,
33:30
Speaker 1: John Jefferson, Charlie Jones was actually a tight end and
33:33
Speaker 1: two wide rest So I said three offensive options eighty
33:38
Speaker 1: nine Washington, Art Monk, Ricky Sanders, Gary Clark, ninety five Atlanta,
33:43
Speaker 1: Eric Metcalfe, Terrence Mathis, BERTA. Manuel And that was Jerry Glanville.
33:49
Speaker 1: And what did they call that? There was the No,
33:51
Speaker 1: it was June Jones. What did they call that offense?
33:55
Speaker 1: It was the running gun. I don't remember it was.
34:00
Speaker 1: They had a name for that type of all fence,
34:02
Speaker 1: but I can't remember what it was called. Oh four
34:04
Speaker 1: Indy Marvin Harrison, Redgyu, Wayne Brandon Stokely Stokely, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
34:11
Speaker 1: we'll see if the Jags can enter. Yeah. Well, no, look,
34:14
Speaker 1: it's all about the wins. It's not about having three
34:17
Speaker 1: guys in a thousand yards and so if you win everything,
34:20
Speaker 1: everybody's happy. You could run the ball seven million times.
34:23
Speaker 1: Who cares win? Did any of those teams win the
34:25
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? The d eighty eighty nine Redskins win the
34:30
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? That was that one of their three might
34:33
Speaker 1: might have been? Might have been I don't remember running. Shoot,
34:36
Speaker 1: it was a running no, No, that was I can't
34:41
Speaker 1: remember what either way. All right, Hey, let's transition out
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Speaker 1: on Jaguars Happy how or tintn X, l AM, Jaguars
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Speaker 1: dot Com, jag Social Media, JP, Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman. It's
34:52
Speaker 1: draft time or two weeks away, and we're doing a
34:54
Speaker 1: week by week positional breakdown. Last week it was the
34:57
Speaker 1: quarterbacks logs. This week we're going to defense. We talked
35:01
Speaker 1: a little with Trevor Sikima a moment ago of Pro
35:03
Speaker 1: Football focus about the cornerback position. It's a position of
35:08
Speaker 1: need for the Jags, it really is. And watching these
35:12
Speaker 1: guys because everybody's saying that that's one of the deepest
35:15
Speaker 1: drafts that there has been in recent memory when it
35:18
Speaker 1: comes to that position, cornerback. The two guys at the top,
35:22
Speaker 1: I think you can put him one two and flip
35:24
Speaker 1: him and go to one. It doesn't matter. These guys
35:26
Speaker 1: are really good. And it's Witherspoon from Illinois, who is
35:30
Speaker 1: a little bit smaller player, but this guy, love him.
35:33
Speaker 1: Plays hard, he plays the nickel extremely well. He's an
35:36
Speaker 1: excellent blitzer. He's physical, he is controlled violence, and he
35:44
Speaker 1: also can make plays on the ball. And this is
35:46
Speaker 1: a guy that I think changes the culture just because
35:49
Speaker 1: of the way he plays the game. Love him. The
35:53
Speaker 1: other one right there at the top with him is
35:55
Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez. Gonzalez from Oregon, and he's very young player
36:00
Speaker 1: now he's twenty years old, but he's got the height,
36:03
Speaker 1: he's got the size, he's got the hips, he is fluid,
36:07
Speaker 1: he's got excellent ball skills. This guy can play man.
36:11
Speaker 1: I think he can even get better with some of
36:13
Speaker 1: his press coverage. But this guy can play. If there
36:18
Speaker 1: was one of those two that I had to pick
36:20
Speaker 1: with the more upside, I would probably pick Gonzalez just
36:23
Speaker 1: because he's younger, he's got the natural hips, and I
36:27
Speaker 1: think he's got better shut down ability. But Witherspoon is
36:30
Speaker 1: just such a dynamite package of energy. I think he's
36:33
Speaker 1: right there at the top, and he's one of those
36:36
Speaker 1: guys that you be willing to bet on just because
36:38
Speaker 1: he's kind of a can't miss prospect. The next guy
36:41
Speaker 1: that I would put on that list has a famous
36:43
Speaker 1: last name. He certainly does NFL bloodlines for Joey Porter Junior. Hey,
36:47
Speaker 1: guess what. He's the son of Joey Porter Senior, who
36:51
Speaker 1: was a really good football player for the Pittsburgh stage,
36:54
Speaker 1: but he didn't play corner. No, okay, far from it.
36:57
Speaker 1: Porter is interesting, Nitney Lyon. He is very long. He's
37:03
Speaker 1: a six three ish guy. He doesn't have what I
37:07
Speaker 1: would call quick change of direction. He's more of a
37:12
Speaker 1: law He'd plays excellent press coverage. I don't think there's
37:15
Speaker 1: anybody in the draft that's better at getting up in
37:18
Speaker 1: a receiver's face and playing press coverage man than Porter.
37:22
Speaker 1: He's outstanding from that aspect. But there are some areas
37:26
Speaker 1: that he could probably work on and be a little
37:28
Speaker 1: bit better at. One of them is the physical nature
37:30
Speaker 1: of the game. He does miss some tackles. He doesn't
37:33
Speaker 1: have that short area quickness, and sometimes in zone coverage
37:37
Speaker 1: he's not quick enough to react. But the man coverage
37:40
Speaker 1: is where he really excels, and he's got the height
37:44
Speaker 1: he's got the length, he's got the speed. He can
37:48
Speaker 1: make plays on the ball, but his ball skills are
37:51
Speaker 1: not that of Gonzales, I don't think. But nonetheless, this
37:55
Speaker 1: is a guy that was raised in an NFL home sentially,
37:59
Speaker 1: so I think he's going to also have the mindset
38:02
Speaker 1: to be able to handle the NFL. Now, the next
38:05
Speaker 1: guy is a little different, and that's Deontay Banks at Maryland.
38:10
Speaker 1: This is a guy that's real physical, and I think
38:12
Speaker 1: he's got to learn to tone it down a little
38:14
Speaker 1: bit because sometimes he's a little bit overly physical. But
38:16
Speaker 1: he does a really good job of marrying guys. I
38:19
Speaker 1: think he's a nice combination of a guy that could
38:21
Speaker 1: play some man in some zone. What do you mean
38:23
Speaker 1: overly physical? Why is that bad? Well, in the NFL,
38:27
Speaker 1: they'll call a lot of flags. In college they don't,
38:30
Speaker 1: They don't call quite as much. In my opinion, in
38:34
Speaker 1: the NFL, he's going to get a lot of interference
38:36
Speaker 1: calls of the way he plays the game because he's
38:38
Speaker 1: a hands on type of defensive back and that works
38:41
Speaker 1: to an extent, but you can't rely on that, and
38:44
Speaker 1: I think he's a little bit too much. But he's
38:46
Speaker 1: still an excellent prospect. I think he's a dynamite player
38:51
Speaker 1: and he's physical, but he's not of the caliber of
38:56
Speaker 1: Witherspoon from Illinois. Witherspoon from Illinois is like on a
38:59
Speaker 1: whole other level of physicality and his ability to blitz
39:04
Speaker 1: and uh. But but I like him. I think he's
39:06
Speaker 1: gonna be a really high quality player in this league.
39:11
Speaker 1: The next guy is camp Smith, who happened to be
39:13
Speaker 1: in for a visit with the Jaguars this week report
39:18
Speaker 1: South Carolina. Guy. Uh kind of got all the measurables.
39:23
Speaker 1: He's uh physical, he's fast. You know, most of these cornerbacks.
39:27
Speaker 1: If you're not running for for you're not playing corner anymore.
39:31
Speaker 1: You're gonna be playing safety. But he's got all of
39:35
Speaker 1: the measurables. He's got the broad jump, he's got the
39:38
Speaker 1: numbers from interceptions, and I think he's just a good, solid,
39:42
Speaker 1: safe prospect. Does he have great ball skills He's got
39:47
Speaker 1: He's got really good ball skills. He's kind of got
39:49
Speaker 1: one of those. If you had to say, what's the
39:51
Speaker 1: great thing that he does, I would just say, across
39:53
Speaker 1: the board, in every category, this guy does well. I
39:56
Speaker 1: don't think he is exceptional in anyone Cat Gore, you know,
40:00
Speaker 1: I like with Porter, it's the bump. With Witherspoon, it's
40:03
Speaker 1: the ball skills, the hips with excuse me, that's Gonzalez.
40:09
Speaker 1: With Witherspoon, it's the physical nature of the game. But
40:12
Speaker 1: I really like the way that camp Smith plays the game.
40:15
Speaker 1: And then the last guy that I'll mention here is
40:19
Speaker 1: he's a teeny guy. I'm going ago this the size
40:23
Speaker 1: of Emmanuel Forbes of Mississippi State. He might be. Now,
40:29
Speaker 1: I'll go all so far as say that he's got
40:31
Speaker 1: the best ball skills I think of any cornerback in
40:34
Speaker 1: the draft. Six career interceptions returned for a touchdown at
40:38
Speaker 1: Mississippi State. That's an FBS career record. This guy, I'm
40:43
Speaker 1: just telling you, he's like a little gnat that can
40:47
Speaker 1: flat out fly. I mean, he's he probably and they
40:51
Speaker 1: report him at like one sixty six, and Trevor earlier
40:55
Speaker 1: was talking about one seventy. Maybe you guys were talking
40:58
Speaker 1: about that one seventy number. I don't think he's at
41:01
Speaker 1: one seventy. I mean he is. I mean, he's pencil thin.
41:05
Speaker 1: He ran a four three five forty at the combine.
41:07
Speaker 1: He can roll. Yeah, Okay, he can play man, He's
41:11
Speaker 1: got excellent ball skills once he gets his hands on it.
41:14
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he is an offensive weapon. Does I know.
41:17
Speaker 1: I didn't even looked at his film, and I don't
41:19
Speaker 1: know if he does run ze return punts. I mean,
41:23
Speaker 1: this is a guy that when he intercepts the ball,
41:27
Speaker 1: this is a hold your breath guy, kind of like
41:29
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders when he's got his hands on the ball,
41:31
Speaker 1: because he could do things with it. But he's an
41:34
Speaker 1: excellent player. Can he get a little bit bigger And
41:36
Speaker 1: everybody always likes to forecast and say, yeah, he can
41:38
Speaker 1: put on a few pounds, be a little bit more physical,
41:41
Speaker 1: but look if if he can still play at a
41:44
Speaker 1: high level one hundred and seventy pounds, I mean, that'll
41:47
Speaker 1: be fine. You know a lot of times they don't
41:50
Speaker 1: expect corners to be like Witherspoon and be blitzing off
41:54
Speaker 1: the edge and hammering guys in the backfield. But I
41:57
Speaker 1: like Emmanuel Forbes, and I think the team that gets
41:59
Speaker 1: him is going to be incredibly happy, and they're going
42:01
Speaker 1: to be amazed at some of the things that he
42:03
Speaker 1: can do as far as attacking the ball. Because the
42:06
Speaker 1: guys that make plays on the ball. Those are the
42:09
Speaker 1: guys that change the game. We'll see if the Jaguars
42:12
Speaker 1: are in play at twenty four at quarter a cornerback
42:15
Speaker 1: excuse me, not quarter back, corner defensive defensive back for
42:20
Speaker 1: the Jags twenty fourth overall, we'll see what happens two
42:23
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43:13
Speaker 1: thank you first of all, and it's a live look
43:16
Speaker 1: outside at the Miller Electric Center construction project. We are
43:20
Speaker 1: closing in on the June thirtieth candying over the keys
43:25
Speaker 1: to the Jags, the grading and the everything in the
43:30
Speaker 1: field looks like it's underway, and next up will be grass,
43:35
Speaker 1: and then the building will be finished, and then the
43:37
Speaker 1: Jags will move in there and they'll have training camp there.
43:40
Speaker 1: I did notice that they're hanging dry wall, so that's
43:42
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. They're they're moving right along. By
43:45
Speaker 1: the way, the off season program and OTA practices will
43:48
Speaker 1: be held on the game field and inside the stadium,
43:51
Speaker 1: as they were last year. Obviously when this was under construction.
43:55
Speaker 1: The practice fields will not be ready yet for the
43:57
Speaker 1: offseason program. They were told we'll be ready for training
44:02
Speaker 1: camp in July. I wonder how they're gonna do that.
44:05
Speaker 1: Will they seat it, will they bring in roles of
44:11
Speaker 1: grass sod. My guess is they'll probably guess the roles
44:14
Speaker 1: yabably roll it. Yeah, and it's gonna be as I
44:17
Speaker 1: understood it when I was out there the other week.
44:19
Speaker 1: A completely flat surface, no crowns well, great drainage right,
44:23
Speaker 1: They've got built in drainage underneath allows them to not
44:26
Speaker 1: have a crown. Which years ago, the best, the best
44:30
Speaker 1: field I ever played on was in Baltimore, and it
44:35
Speaker 1: was a hybrid natural grass that was mixed with artificial
44:39
Speaker 1: and they had a great drainage system. The stadium itself
44:42
Speaker 1: was in total disrepair because it was when stadium, yeah
44:46
Speaker 1: Cleveland left of Cleveland, or the Ravens left Cleveland, Cleveland
44:51
Speaker 1: came to Baltimore, and so while the new stadium was
44:53
Speaker 1: being built, there playing a memorial. But the plane surface
44:56
Speaker 1: itself was the best I ever played on in my
44:59
Speaker 1: entire career. It was unbelievable, was flat, great drainage, it
45:02
Speaker 1: was fast, it had great traction, and I don't I
45:06
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what that surface was called, but it
45:08
Speaker 1: was the best I ever played on. About that, whereas
45:11
Speaker 1: a lot of the fields that played on earlier in
45:15
Speaker 1: the career, they had that noticeable crown. And as a
45:19
Speaker 1: defensive end, a lot of times you felt like you
45:21
Speaker 1: were running uphill because literally were you were, you know,
45:24
Speaker 1: to some extent. And Tampa had a field at the
45:28
Speaker 1: old ballfield that day what was it called back then
45:33
Speaker 1: you're talking about the sombrero sombrero, and then even the
45:37
Speaker 1: sombrero was like a huge crown because you know, all
45:40
Speaker 1: the Florida rains and I guess they didn't have the
45:43
Speaker 1: built in system to be able to handle the drainage.
45:46
Speaker 1: So this has it and they can, you know, change
45:48
Speaker 1: the orientation of the fields and keep the grass growing
45:52
Speaker 1: and fresh all that stuff. Yeah, rotation, don't get the
45:55
Speaker 1: same ruts in the same spot. A lot of great
45:57
Speaker 1: men and women doing work over there on the construction
45:59
Speaker 1: project too, And the finish line is in sight for sure.
46:03
Speaker 1: Let's go around the NFL and a report from Sportco
46:07
Speaker 1: today that Dan Snyder has apparently reached an agreement and
46:11
Speaker 1: principle to sell the Commanders for six billion dollars to
46:15
Speaker 1: a group led by Philadelphia seventy six Ers owner Josh Harris,
46:19
Speaker 1: billionaire Mitchell Rails, and former Lakers star Magic Johnson. It
46:23
Speaker 1: would be the highest price ever paid for a sports team,
46:27
Speaker 1: overtaking the four point six billion dollars that was paid
46:31
Speaker 1: for the Broncos last year. If you look at price comparison,
46:35
Speaker 1: the Walmart family did a lot better than this little
46:41
Speaker 1: purchase here in Washington because Denver has a great stadium situation.
46:45
Speaker 1: The Washington Commanders still have to figure out the stadium
46:49
Speaker 1: situation moving forward in the future. Many people expected Jeff Bezos,
46:54
Speaker 1: the founder and owner of Amazon, to get involved with
46:58
Speaker 1: the bidding process, and reports are now that he will
47:02
Speaker 1: not be in the process at all. So I think
47:06
Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder was hoping maybe that he would get involved
47:09
Speaker 1: here towards the end it would push the price up
47:11
Speaker 1: even higher. But there's a lot of money to pay
47:14
Speaker 1: for an NFL franchise. But here's the reality. The values
47:17
Speaker 1: just keep going up. Yeah, quickly, really quick. Think about that.
47:23
Speaker 1: The Denver Broncos has been a great franchise, you know,
47:27
Speaker 1: and look, Washington has a herited franchise. It's one of
47:31
Speaker 1: the original football teams. And but the Denver Broncos have
47:38
Speaker 1: a lot of familiarity with their stadium, the fan bases, there,
47:43
Speaker 1: the positivity, and with Daniel Snyder, there's not a lot
47:48
Speaker 1: of positivity that surrounds the Washington franchise. So there's going
47:53
Speaker 1: to be a lot of change in Washington as things
47:57
Speaker 1: move forward with new ownership, and hopefully it happens, because
48:00
Speaker 1: if the sale doesn't happen, there's a problem because Daniel
48:05
Speaker 1: Snyder is not well liked by his peers in the
48:09
Speaker 1: National Football League right now, and I think most of
48:11
Speaker 1: the ownership in the National Football League is quietly wishing
48:14
Speaker 1: that he would sell the team today. Lamar Jackson, News
48:20
Speaker 1: ravens Cem, Eric da Costas said that quote Lamar's and
48:24
Speaker 1: our plans and our feelings about Lamar are not changed
48:26
Speaker 1: one bit since the end of the season. That was
48:29
Speaker 1: in quote at the Odell Beckham press conference. Or Beckham
48:33
Speaker 1: said that today the goal was to come here and
48:36
Speaker 1: have that possibility to play with him. There were no
48:39
Speaker 1: promises made of that happening, he said. O'Dell said, but
48:43
Speaker 1: that's not really new news. There's just a new soundbiter. Two.
48:47
Speaker 1: That's it. Well, credit to the Ravens first off that
48:51
Speaker 1: they had this press conference to announce the signing of
48:55
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. But they make their head coach and
48:59
Speaker 1: general manager of available for all questions, which is the
49:03
Speaker 1: classy way to go about business in Baltimore or in
49:06
Speaker 1: any if any NFL franchise wants to take a lesson,
49:10
Speaker 1: and the right way to do things is to allow
49:13
Speaker 1: the media to ask questions of OBJ but then also
49:16
Speaker 1: of Eric da Costa and Harball about the situation with
49:19
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. So credit to the Ravens organization in ownerships
49:24
Speaker 1: because that's that's where it starts. And still no new
49:28
Speaker 1: news on the Packers, Jets Aaron Rodgers situation. You can
49:31
Speaker 1: tune into any other outlets of the circus. Yeah. I mean, look,
49:35
Speaker 1: I wish that they would just get that resolve. I mean,
49:37
Speaker 1: it feels like that's after the draft, like they want
49:41
Speaker 1: to wait until that first rounds over and then they
49:42
Speaker 1: don't trade this year's first round. I just wish it
49:45
Speaker 1: would It would be better for the league if that
49:49
Speaker 1: whole mystery was settled and done and Rogers is going
49:54
Speaker 1: to the Jets and they got the draft pick that
49:57
Speaker 1: they wanted in Green Bay, I mean, and let the
49:59
Speaker 1: league move on and they got a schedule to put
50:02
Speaker 1: together guys. So that's another important thing. It's coming up soon.
50:06
Speaker 1: Um out next week, out next week, we'll see it
50:09
Speaker 1: Draft night, they got it looking forward to us. That's
50:12
Speaker 1: two weeks tonight. That's Jeff Logaman. I'm JP Shadrick. Thanks
50:16
Speaker 1: to our entire crew, Thanks for Trevor Sickam, a Pro
50:18
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