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Hillary Joins Crypto Army + Biden Crypto Meeting w/ Jackie Dutton · The Paul Barron Crypto Show

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  All right, crypto getting to be a little bit more bipartisan. Today we'll
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  be breaking down what that might look like in a new world of crypto and
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  politics and how it plays into a lot of projects. You're gonna love it.
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  My name was Paul Baron. Welcome back into tech Path. Before we
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  You can run over to the website, et cetera if you decide to go
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  that route. All right, I want to get into the topic today,
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  and this is more on the topic of polity, but also at the same
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  time how it applies into crypto. So I want to bring our co host
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  in. Of course, that's miss Jackie Dutton coming in today. How are
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  you, Jackie. I'm good. We're having a little technical difficulty, but
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  I hope everybody likes the new microphone. Oh, Mike is great, your
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  audio is excellent. Let's lead off with the first story, and this is
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  going to be a good one for those of you in the political arena,
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  and that is Hillary Clinton stuns the Democrats by endorsing George Latimer as Jamal Mohman's
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  congressional seat New York. Of course is the congressional seat right here is the
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  district sixteen, which is what we're talking about. This is Jamal Bowman statements
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  on crypto. You can kind of see it right there. Fit twenty one
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  in the SAB voted against, voted against and also CBDC anti surveillance state actor
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  voted against versus George Latimer, who currently does not have a position. This
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  coming over from stand with Crypto from coinbase. Are people going to vote their
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  crypto holdings or are they going to vote their political stance? Yeah? I
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  think everybody in my world, at least and on my feed is well aware
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  that this is a much bigger issue, right. This is about freedom to
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  self custody. This is about inflation the economy, and if you are so
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  adamantly against it that you know even SAB one twenty one, which had more
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  to do with banks than it even did you know, the common man?
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  This is probably not somebody who has our financial best interest at heart in the
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  world of crypto at least. Yeah, for sure, I'm going to play
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  a clip for you just so you guys can get a framework around Jamal Bowman.
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  But there's a lot of Jamal Bowman's out there people that are in this
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  position, especially on the Democratic side. Let me cut to that clip real
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  quick. So Hillary Clinton sparked a big debate within the Democratic Party by endorsing
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  more moderate New York primary candidate George Latimer over the incumbent Democrat Jamal Bowman.
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  Clinton tweeted that with Trump on the ballot, we need strong principal Democrats in
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  Congress more than ever in Congress. George Latimer, what's the reaction to that?
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  No real reaction. I definitely wouldn't call out a major endorsement with all
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  due respect. I mean, we are endorsed by sitting US senator Elizabeth Warren.
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  I love our endorsements and they're going to help us win this race.
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  The poll found that fifty one percent of respondents have a favorable view of Bowman.
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  In comparison, sixty five percent said they have a favorable view of Latimer.
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  People around the country are recognizing that, hey, Bowman could lose,
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  and maybe that's a surge of energy into the district. I think Bowman has
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  a lot of supporters. His problem is they don't live in the district.
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  You know, Yeah, that doesn't work. So what I understand that doesn't
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  work. So what I have these if you look at some of the expenditures
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  in terms of propping up some of these candidates, and it is an important
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  scenario this right here showing fair Shake right there as the number two candidate opposing
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  Bowman, of almost and you can kind of see it. Let me kind
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  of zoom in on that right there, almost two million dollars going into this
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  opposition. With this being the case, fair Shake one of the largest packs
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  out there really fighting for crypto. I think in general we've seen a ton
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  of very pro crypto entities that are supporting fair Shake. This could start to
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  spill over into a lot of races. How much of an impact do you
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  feel like this is going to have right now on this year's election, Jackie,
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  Oh, it's huge. I think this is an influx of money and
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  donations and special interest that we haven't really seen before in the past. I
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  don't think it's really existed. The framework hasn't been there, and there hasn't
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  been the organization that we really are now seeing. I know that I see
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  a lot of people say, well, I hate that we have to play
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  this game like a big pharma or a tobacco or an alcohol but we do.
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  And it's just them's the breaks. That's just kind of the way that
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  it is within this game. But it's going to actually get things done in
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  our favor. This is where the polls currently stand on the New York sixteen
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  Democratic primary, and you've got it right there. George Latimer at forty eight
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  percent, Jamal Bowman at thirty one percent. That's currently there's a little bit
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  of a margin era there, but the undecided number is still the one that
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  is big to me. Now this, of course, many of you guys
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  will say, justice Democrats, what are you guys talking about? This is
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  crazy? Of course, of many people will know this. The one name,
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  though that I will say that has seemed to cross the line is Rocana,
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  and he seems to be in a position to where he thinks that a
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  pro business stance, both from a democratic and maybe across the island the Republican
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  side is the answer for crypto and a lot of what's happening in blockchains.
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  Let me play a clip for you, and I want to get your opinion
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  after this clip, take a look. One of the things I've said to
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  folks is even if you're not investor, I'm not invested in crypto, but
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  I've gone on Coinbase, I've opened a wallet, I've opened met a mask.
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  I know that you can't buy NFTs on Coinbase. I know that you
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  need to go on the open seats from Mentat. I know the basic experience.
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  It takes literally forty eight hours to figure this stuff out. And yet
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  you probably don't have more than four or five members of Congress who've ever done
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  that. And we need more people to actually get the basic Go get open
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  a wallet. So it is way too complicated in my in my experience,
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  and the more we can simplify, the more actually you can reduce the fees
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  so that people know that you can transfer body where you need to memorize your
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  twelve word password. But if we can fix that so that you don't have
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  to memorize that twelve word password. But all of that just means that this
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  is in a nascent stage of technology. If you go in your negative on
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  crypto and you don't understand it, it seems like you're hurting their view of
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  what modern wealth generation could entail artists. If you care about artists, songwriter,
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  singers, you should be for this technology. It's you get to lower
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  potentially the cost of prescription drugs. Look, Mark Cuban has this interesting idea
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  of with He's where he's going to use some of this to try to bring
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  prescription drug plus down. We haven't been able to do that at Tigris campaign
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  on it every year. So that's Rocanna talking about that. I mean,
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  he actually said some pretty straightforward things that I think any congressman and woman would
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  probably look at and say, yeah, I'm going to go ahead and spend
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  a little time and try to figure this out. Do you think there's any
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  chance for that really happening? Jackie, what are your thoughts on that?
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  I mean, I think we're talking about people, some of them are in
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  an age gap who would ask for help using their television remote. Still,
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  so I just don't believe that they're going to figure out how to use met
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  a mask over the weekend. Here, of course, is Biden's administration talking
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  about a potential round table in DC and Cuban looks like he's going to be
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  maybe the one that is there. And what they're stating here is this could
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  be the most significant meeting between policymakers and innovation leaders in the blockchain area today.
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  Mark Cubanan is planning to be there. He's going to pitch on one
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  area. Rokanna mentioned this about potentially lowering cost of pharmaceuticals. Let me go
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  to the clip on that. I want to just kind of get your position
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  on whether you think this is a good angle. Take a look, and
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  I'd say part two to what we came up with in launching cost plus Drugs
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  with is transparency. Because the missing element in all of healthcare right now is
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  trust. So when you go to cost plus Drugs and you costplus drugs dot
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  Com and you put in the name of the drug that you're looking to buy,
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  you'll see exactly what we pay for it. You'll see that it's marked
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  up fifteen percent. We'll show you what the markup is. You'll see that
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  there's a three dollars handling fee for the pharmacy and five dollars shipping. And
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  that was only seventy seven of the drugs that we sell. Imagine if they
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  used all nine hundred plus. But you haven't had any mainstream applications where your
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  mom says, Okay, we've got to get a wallet because I have to
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  do a B or C. We're waiting for that next round of applications and
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  there's a lot of people working on them. You know, NFTs for the
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  resale of books. So we take NFTs past the collectable markets to the utility
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  markets until mobile phones came along from nineteen ninety five to two thousand and seven
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  with the iPhone. Yeah right, and then even remember they are the first
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  apps on the app store, were like, hey, look, let me
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  hold my phone like this. It looks like drink beer. Right, yeah,
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  it looks like I'm drinking a beer. Just dombshit. There's no reason
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  why crypto's going to be any different. Do you think that's the angle that
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  the administration will understand I don't necessarily know if they're really the Apple to Apple
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  comparison that he really wants it to be at this point. But it's not
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  price gouging, and that's just our only issue in crypto. We have numerous
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  problems. I want to play a clip here by Cody Carbone and he goes
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  into a little bit about the importance of this meeting. Take a look.
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  Everyone is now talking about what President Biden is going to do because former President
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  Trump has come out fully supportive of the industry a complete one point eighty from
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  when he was in office, and so we're hearing more and more rumors about
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  how the Biden campaign are reaching out to crypto, the crypto industry, and
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  it's culminating in this roundtable that is going to be hosted by Congressman Rocanna.
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  We're hearing Mark Cuban will be there. I think everyone is still trying to
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  figure out what this will look like. We're hearing this will be sometime in
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  July. And so this email was leaked from Congressman Conna saying, Hey,
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  we're going to do this, and now everyone is scrambling to figure out,
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  Okay, what's this going to look like? And how do I get there
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  and who's going to be there From the administration. The title of the roundtable,
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  I believe, was, you know, how do we lead on digital
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  assets, which I'm really optimistic about over fifty million users in the United States.
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  That's larger than all of New York State combined. They started to hear
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  about it from their constituents. It wasn't just the crypto lobby, which I
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  am a proud member of, saying hey, you need to pay attention here.
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  No, now, it's you know, the mom and Pops store in
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  their district that wants to take crypto. I just wonder if if Biden will
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  just go the other way just because Trump has gonna gone this way, what
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  do you think he'll he'll do? That's really what it seems like. I
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  mean, he's talking on of both sides of his mouth, right, He's
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  going to have this roundtable, but he just vetoed sab one twenty one.
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  What's going to happen when the fit Act comes across his desk? If you
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  know, you can't pander for votes and then slap us in the face when
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  it comes to actually being the one in charge of approving the regulation and not
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  actually doing it. He's had the opportunity at this point to show his support
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  legislatively and he has not. Well, in I can't believe I'm saying this
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  in Biden's defense. What I will say is that Trump did not come out
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  and say that he was pro crypto prior to that, you know, prior
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  to the SAB vote. So I mean there's a lot of chess being played
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  here because Trump probably had a little bit of an idea that Biden was probably
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  going to stand in his ants of a veto, and Trump used that as
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  a catalyst to say, all right, let me show you the other side
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  of the coin, and boom, off you went, which could be the
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  case because he is definitely winning votes right now in the crypto community. And
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  back to the point, the point that Cody Carbone made, which is small
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  business, because that's going to be a huge stump, you know, topic
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  for a lot of these candidates. I want to jump to a clip here
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  because this was something that happened on TikTok that is huge in terms of small
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  businesses, creators and so on that eventually I think we'll start to transition into
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  uh to crypto. Follow me on this one, Let me play this clip
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  for you. Canvas Beauty made TikTok history, hitting a million dollars in sales
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  during a single live session, have a rope up Er Whole Life. In
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  twenty twenty three, that market was worth about six hundred and forty seven billion
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  dollars in China and the US fifty billion, so dropping the bucket not that
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  much. So what we're hearing from a lot of these CpG companies is that
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  they would rather, especially newer brands upstart such as Stormy's company, They're going
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  to TikTok because you can scale like that, payments and so forth. How
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  does that get done? And I assume that that TikTok collects some toll of
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  of revenues, right, So basically when you have a TikTok shop, all
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  of your transactions are actually done through the TikTok shop and their platform. Stormy,
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  do you worry they're going to ban TikTok? Of course, it's always
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  like at the top of mind, and I would hate if they did such
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  a thing because it would crush a lot of people's American dreams. I don't
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  know, I'm looking at it in a point of is TikTok maybe a ticking
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  time bomb here when you look at the fees that are playing into this,
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  the referral fee, this is their current US fees are getting ready to go
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  from six percent this was April twenty twenty four in July here in a couple
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  of weeks to eight percent when you look at that right now, obviously,
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  you as a content creator, you're out there in this sector. How are
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  you playing this? Nothing feels more egregious than when you create content and you
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  put it on YouTube, for instance, and you created the majority of the
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  content, and they threw ads on it. Right And I'm not trying to
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  get anybody demonetized today, but I'm not just saying it's I mean, I'm
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  sure you see the payout, Yeah, the payouts. It's files. It's
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  like, wow, you just were the vessel in which I hosted my content,
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  but you would have no content without people posting it. It's filed.
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  So I think, you know, as long as crypto builds simplified infrastructure,
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  the that we've talked about before, the way that bass come in, and
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  you know, coinbas wallet has really created something simple. TikTok is very simple
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  as you swipe, it's very intuitive and I'm sure the buying process is equally
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  as simple. So I think just honing that in and getting to a place
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  where it almost doesn't matter what currency you use. You just kind of load
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  your wallet with it and then you can get a gamified way spend it how
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  you want. Yeah, it's always going to open up an opportunity for crypto.
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  Okay, all right, With that being said, one thing you have
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  to be aware of, though, is this creator fund on TikTok, which
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  is kind of intriguing. Let me play this clip because this breaks it down
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  a little more. Take a look. I'm currently making around two point five
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  cents per thousand views, and I used to make five cents per view on
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  TikTok. What happened? What changed? The pool of money is the same
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  size. Why am I making less perview? Because there are more views on
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  the platform. It's grown, there are more users, TikTok is earning more
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  money. The pool is the same size, so there are more views with
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  the same number of dollars, so you make fewer dollars per view. Literally,
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  when TikTok becomes more successful, TikTokers become less successful. What if TikTok
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  had the same partnership with creators that YouTube has TikTokers would be making at minimum
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  sixteen cents per thousand views, that is six times what they are making now.
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  That person could be a full time creator, They could be thinking about
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  expanding, about hiring, about creating a business. We don't have a platform
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  without you, but you don't have a platform without us. It's almost the
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  same thing that you just mentioned. And whether you look at X or you
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  look at something like farcast or I was just looking at their daily active users
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  here on Doune. I mean, look at the growth that we've seen here
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  on This is Farcaster by the way, So for some of you guys who
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  are not aware of it, it's kind of a Twitter clone. Go search
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  Farcaster warp cash. You can get it on the iOS or the Android store.
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  Check it out. Has a lot of similarities, but it's just beginning.
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  It's just getting going. Obviously X has a potential with this, and
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  then you look at social and I think about this right here, this is
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  driph House. If you're a crypto native media, you're directly putting your assets
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  in front of one hundred thousand salon collectors per day within web two media that's
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  tiny but within the crypto. So here's my question to you, being it's
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  kind of like being a big fish in a small pond or a small fish
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  in a big pond. You know, which route do you take? If
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  you are a creator out there, especially in the crypto space, what would
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  you do in that kind of scenario? You know, I think there's really
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  awesome opportunities to repurpose your content and change it a little bit as you go
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  from one platform to the next. So you know, using the teaser content
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  that performs the best on one platform to kind of, you know, start
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  sending people over to maybe the higher quality content that really like becoming rapid for
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  and really looking for. I think that's probably the best strategy. One thing
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  that has started to really perk my interest is the idea of taking brands on
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  chain. Let me play a clip for you because this is a good one
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  about maybe how brands could go on chain. Take a look, So what
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  does the new form that look like? Build a brand, launch an onchene
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  community aka NFT sales aka our little own version of by QO, collaborate with
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  the NFD holders, and then sell products completely changing the model of how we
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  know brands are built. So this is obviously seeing an optic of what we
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  call on chene brands, where NFC communities no longer are being confined to the
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  fact that they're just NFC communities, but they're also thinking, but what can
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  I do ahead of my brand to take this more mainstream? Would you pitch
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  this to a new business and say start this way? Yes? And I
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  think the it builds that no light can trust kind of you know, we're
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  just really tired. I think of being just like sold something like you know,
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  hi, buy this like it's very disconnected, of like, oh,
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  I don't even know you. And I think that that no like and trust
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  that you build a brand, you also give something like an algorithm the opportunity
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  to show it to you based on likes that you have, you know,
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  shown that you're interested in in the first place. I know it's creepy,
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  but I really like when some stuff comes on my feed that I was searching
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  for and it's like, oh my god, you have a chip in my
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  brain. Well. One of the strategies that has worked very well is of
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  course, the Project Pudgie Penguins. Here's a clip here from Luca talking about
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  NFTs and why they matter so much. Take a look in reality, we've
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  only been hitting a stride for call it fifteen sixteen months. If you look
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  at our accomplishments and you look at our funding landscape, you think to yourself,
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  they have, you know, forty fifty billion views across social they have
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  over a million toys sold. They have these huge part partnerships that are kind
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  of unheard of, you know, partnerships that take years and years to kind
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  of garner. We are just moving so much faster because I have ten thousand
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  people pushing my objective with me. NFTs and just token holders in general are
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  either the ultimate jet fuel to your company or the ultimate deterrent you can win
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  in a way that is unparallel to anything we've seen prior to crypto. You
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  could make the same case for ethereum in that programming language, like you know,
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  when's the last time a programming language hit an enterprise value of five hundred
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  billion dollars. It's just like it's it's relevant across the board. I think
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  this is a complete shift of thinking. You know, everything I've learned in
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  marketing, technology and media for the last twenty five years, I look at
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  what's happening today, and I think this is a revolution in how audiences behaved
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  because Luca's right, you know, you put to it's you know, there
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  was an old book out there by Seth Godden called tribes, and tribes are
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  exactly what he's talking about. Build a tribe of one thousand or ten thousand,
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  and that tribe can become such a great opportunity. But there's not very
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  many companies that ever did that. So now we're starting to actually see it
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  because of the potential for NFTs being kind of the mechanism. So so far,
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  do you think this is still a fad or do you think this is
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  really a shift in business. I think it's valuable for them to look into
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  it and to implement it, especially with like the high end the luxury brands.
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  It's so hard sometimes to spot something that's fake. You know, a
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  designer perse that costs twenty five thousand dollars. How do you really really know
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  that you got what you wanted and god what you paid for. So having
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  that authenticity of something on the blockchain, I do think really starts to validate
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  that the key here is going to be scale and one of the areas that
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  I'm watching very closely, is of course how well these networks are growing.
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  Here's an example, based network now surpasses binance chain in terms of active dex
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  users. This is crazy. Base is too not even is it a year
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  old yet, I'm trying to remember. It's like it did one it's about
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  a year old, about a year old, and it's it's basically going past
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  Finance, which has been in it for eight nine years now. That is
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  insane growth. What do you think about the network effect? What's your opinion
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  on that? Well, I think it helps the you know, Coinbase was
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  not demonized by US corporations, so that probably was really helpful a little bit.
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  And you know, it's all still that Uxui experience. It's so much
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  easier to use coinbase than it is to get on a pancake swap and buy
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  in. It'll take you. You know, I've heard computer engineers say it
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  took up two days to figure out how to buy a BSc token. Oh
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  than got Well, well, that goes back to the whole thing around the
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  onboarding comparison that back in the beginning of the episode on rope is just making
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  it just super simple. If we'erever going to see mass scale and the network
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  effect. It's going to happen that way. Clearly, Bass has kind of
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  proven that. However, there is one guy out there that we all love
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  that says, maybe the network effect doesn't matter. Who do you think that
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  guy would be? The network effect doesn't matter for crypt? I mean cz
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  is he gonna stump for Biden as he's in jail right now though he can't
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  talk. That's a good one. I love that one. All right,
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  Well, I've got it for you. Let's go in and play the clip
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  for Jackie. And you know, so network effects don't mean anything in technology,
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  in economic, political, and social systems means absolutely nothing. So network
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  effects change all the time. And the people that you'd expect to win,
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  whether it be a theorum or bitcoin, you know, here today, gone
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  tomorrow. You know Solana was dead now you know huge amount of growth.
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  Okay, could be dead in twelve months, could grow another five x,
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  ten x. Those are flashes of pan unless you have the right fundamentals.
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  So him suffered from this. They got stuck in a mire. And now
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  they have all these competitors, so they could get my face very quickly.
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  Why Cardono, Well that's what it is that's what we seek to do.
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  Here's what's amazing to me is that Aaron and Austin had kept a straight face
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  on that, because I don't think I would have been able to Charles,
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  what are you talking about? What are you talking? Network effects do not
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  matter? I love that one that should be on a T shirt. Network
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  effects do not matter, Cardono community. This man like bless his heart.
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  Really, I saw he's surprised today that a shit coin named after like his
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  dog is doing really well. Like that just blew his mind. And I
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  think, unfortunately, you have two schools in crypto. You have the dogwiff
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  hat shit coin, zero utility, don't care, send it to billions,
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  and then you have the coded in Haskell Charles Hoskinson, Ada Maxis, and
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  these two do not communicate and they don't understand each other. There's a much
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  smaller pool of the Charles's than there are of the whiffs. Yeah. Yeah,
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  definitely a different world in different orbits, which is fine. All those
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  orbits can coexist in this thing we call crypto. Jackie, it's always fun
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  having you on the show. I love you get your opinion on these things.
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  So thanks again for stopping in today. We appreciate it, my pleasure.
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