Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Mega Edition: The Legacy Media Ignored The Epstein Story For Years. What Changed? (7/5/26)

Transcript

Mega Edition: The Legacy Media Ignored The Epstein Story For Years. What Changed? (7/5/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

0:00
Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
0:02
Epstein Chronicles. Recently, we've been talking a whole lot about
0:07
President Trump and his nonsense when it comes to Jeffrey
0:10
Epstein and the obvious cover up that is underway. Well,
0:14
if you think that Donald Trump is the only person
0:17
that's in politics or that's been in politics, that was
0:20
friendly with Jeffrey Epstein, that relied on Jeffrey Epstein, that
0:24
was close to Jeffrey Epstein, you were sorely mistaken. And
0:28
the vast majority of the people that Jeffrey Epstein was
0:31
friendly with and was funding were on the other side
0:34
of the aisle. And I know a lot of people
0:36
don't want to hear that right now, but it's the truth.
0:39
Speaker 2: So if you're.
0:40
Speaker 1: Somebody out here that's only thinking that Donald Trump was involved,
0:44
you're crazy. Now we have to differentiate one thing, and
0:48
it's very important. Donald Trump is a sitting president right now.
0:52
He's the one that is overseeing the alleged cover up.
0:55
But let's not forget that people like Bill Clinton's bitch
0:59
ass have a lot to answer for when it comes
1:02
to Jeffrey Epstein and the lies they told about the
1:05
relationship that they had with this man. But Bill Clinton
1:08
has never come forward, never offered up any kind of explanation,
1:13
never offered up any kind of apology, and in fact,
1:16
has continued to double down on all the lies that
1:18
he told about his and Jeffrey Epstein's relationship from the
1:22
very beginning. And for my longtime listeners, I've been somebody
1:26
that's been on top of this mountain yelling about Bill
1:29
Clinton and his ability to avoid scrutiny when it comes
1:32
to Epstein for literally years. And when I say I
1:35
have no faves and I want pure accountability for everybody involved,
1:39
this is what I mean. I don't care what party
1:42
you're in, I don't care how you vote, I don't
1:45
care what else you've done in your life. It doesn't
1:48
matter to me if you enable Jeffrey Epstein and then
1:51
you lied about it, especially, you need to face a reckoning,
1:55
and for Bill Clinton, that reckoning has never come. Well,
1:59
now that this story back in the spotlight, I hope
2:01
that people are going to pay more attention to what
2:03
Clinton was up to and just how deep the ties
2:06
between Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton really run. Because those
2:10
ties are deep, and they're strong. And finally, somebody in
2:15
the legacy media, if you will, is calling that relationship out. No,
2:19
it's not anybody on cable news. It's not any of
2:22
your favorite journalists who are running around yelling Trump Trump Trump.
2:26
It's Charlemagne the God. Today's article is from the New
2:30
York Post and the headline Charlemagne the God slams liberal
2:34
media for ignoring Bill Clinton's ties to Epstein. Nobody's talking
2:38
about that. Well, mister Charlemagne the God, I can assure
2:41
you and promise you plenty of people are talking about it,
2:44
just not people that are being platformed. This article was
2:48
authored by Joshua Q. Nelson. Charlemagne, the God of the
2:54
Breakfast Club on Tuesday slam the liberal media for ignoring
2:57
former President Bill Clinton's past tie with Jeffrey Epstein. You know,
3:02
it's interesting too, because it's just funny how the news works.
3:06
Because Bill Clinton, you know, wrote a letter to Jeffrey
3:08
Epstein as well for his birthday. But nobody's talking about that.
3:12
And Jeffrey Epstein had a picture of Bill Clinton in
3:15
address in high heels in his New York mansion. But
3:18
nobody's talking about that, Charlemagne said. And that's just the
3:22
surface level shit.
3:24
Speaker 2: What about the.
3:24
Speaker 1: Money that was given to the Clinton Global Initiative by
3:28
Jeffrey Epstein and seed money to get things off the ground.
3:31
What about the fact that Glenn Maxwell was at Chelsea
3:34
Clinton's wedding front and center. What about the Clinton's involvement
3:38
with Karamar What about the Clinton's going to Zoro ranch
3:42
and lying about it. What about Alexander do Rossi, Glene
3:46
Maxwell's nephew, securing a high level job at Hillary clinton
3:50
State Department. Or how about the time that Bill Clinton
3:53
was getting a massage from an Epstein trafficking victim inside
3:58
of an airport. Oh, that's not a We have a
4:00
picture backing it up. And the survivor that was giving
4:03
that massage was Shontay Davies. Now, look again, I'm not
4:07
gonna sit here and tell you that I have proof
4:09
that Bill Clinton was molesting girls with Jeffrey Epstein. I
4:12
haven't seen that proof, but I think we have plenty
4:15
of proof to prove that Bill Clinton's lying about the
4:18
extent of his relationship with Epstein. And I think that's
4:21
something that needs to be talked about, and not only
4:24
Bill Clinton. We need to talk about Bill Richardson, George
4:27
Mitchell and yes, Stacy Plaskett as well, because if you
4:31
care about justice, you care about all the people that
4:33
are involved, not just one side of the aisle, not
4:36
just who you can score political points against. And it's
4:39
my hope that if you folks take anything away from this,
4:42
it's that these people in power, no matter what side
4:45
of the isle they're on, they don't care about you.
4:47
So is it really worth fighting with your relatives, not
4:51
having family get togethers because you have different politics? Breaking news, folks,
4:56
all these motherfuckers are the same, and they all look
4:58
at you as dispol no matter what side of the
5:01
aisle they're on. He continued, My thing is, I don't
5:05
care who's on the list. Everybody gotta go bernerd Lol
5:08
down Like that's just simple as that mutually assured destruction.
5:12
Whoever's on the list need to go. Nobody needs to
5:16
be protecting pedophiles. Well, that's for sure. But unfortunately in
5:20
twenty nineteen, when all of this was going down, the
5:24
left largely ignored it. Do you remember anybody on the
5:27
left making issue out of this? And the reason I
5:30
know you don't want to hear this, but it's the
5:31
truth is because Hillary Clinton was running for president, and
5:35
the ties between Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, and Jeffrey Epstein
5:39
were so deep that it would have really thrown things
5:42
into chaos for Hillary Clinton. So the legacy media largely
5:46
ignored it, and not only that, but they cast anybody
5:48
talking about it as a conspiracy theorist. And I find
5:51
it ironic that now, all these years later, all these
5:55
people that called it a conspiracy theory are having this
5:58
revelation that they were the ones who were hustled, that
6:01
this is a lot more than some tinfoil had conspiracy theory,
6:06
and that the rot runs deep, and people who might
6:09
have been ignoring it previously, well they can't ignore it
6:12
now because the truth is what it is. And when
6:15
you pull that shade back in the room and you
6:17
expose the rot and the degeneracy, you can't go back
6:21
to the beginning. You can't make pretend it doesn't exist.
6:24
Speaker 2: It does.
6:26
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, all of your elected officials on both sides
6:29
of the aisle are responsible for people like Jeffrey Epstein
6:33
being protected and being able to do what he was
6:35
able to do for as long as he was able
6:38
to do it. Charlemagne's comments, which were first flagged by
6:43
mediaite came after President Trump said those asking about the
6:47
late financier Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking case should direct their
6:51
attention to Clinton and former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers. One
6:56
hundred percent correct. Both of those guys were involved. But
6:59
guess what, we can talk about Trump and them at
7:02
the same time. At least I can. Other people might
7:05
not want to do it, but I'm not other people,
7:08
and I'm not beholden to one base or the other.
7:11
This is why I've always stayed independent. This is why
7:13
I don't get involved in the day to day political struggles.
7:16
And if Donald Trump didn't open his fat ass yep
7:19
and insert himself into this conversation with his bullshit, we
7:22
wouldn't be talking about him either.
7:24
Speaker 2: But here we are.
7:26
Speaker 1: And when it comes to Bill Clinton, anybody who's paying attention,
7:29
anybody who knows the story knows that Bill Clinton has
7:33
been given a pass for all these years. And I've
7:36
been screaming from the rooftops about how horrible that is
7:39
and how Bill Clinton needs to answer some questions. So
7:43
hopefully this is going to trickle down and we're going
7:45
to get some questions answered by Bill Clinton. But considering
7:48
his past behavior when it comes to this story and
7:51
all of the denials, Why would he be truthful?
7:54
Speaker 2: Now?
7:54
Speaker 1: What does he have to gain? Especially when all eyes
7:57
are on Trump and for all of his faults. Bill
7:59
Clint Clinton is not stupid when it comes to politics.
8:03
He understands that it's in his best interest to sit
8:05
back in the cut and let all this fall out happen.
8:08
Why insert himself? Why even begin to try and change
8:12
the conversation or the narrative and have it pointed at him.
8:16
Trump's remarks come a day after the US Deputy Attorney
8:19
General Todd Blanche met with Epstein associate Glenn Maxwell. You
8:23
mean co conspirator, fellow child abuser, bipudal, serpent and disgusting
8:28
human being right in Florida, amid heightened scrutiny about the
8:32
case after the Trump administration announced it would not unseal
8:36
investigation materials concerning Epstein. You ought to be speaking to
8:40
Larry Summers. You ought to be speaking about some of
8:43
his friends that are hedge fund guys, Trump told reporters
8:46
Friday while departing for Scotland. While Trump's not wrong about that,
8:50
we should be talking about everybody. Trump included but there's
8:53
no doubt that Larry Summers had ties, and certainly Bill Clinton.
8:57
And don't even get me started on Harvard. Jeffrey Epstein
9:01
had an office on the campus of Harvard all because
9:04
the people like Larry Summers. And let's not forget that
9:07
Joe Biden's head of the CIA, Bill Burns, Well, Jeffrey
9:11
Epstein was his life coach. So there's that. You want
9:15
to talk about ties that run deep, you want to
9:17
talk about rot folks, Jeffrey Epstein and his operation embodied it.
9:23
And for all these decades, both sides of the isle
9:25
were all too happy to look the other way and
9:28
let him do what he was doing because it was
9:30
to their benefit. And now that it's all being exposed
9:33
and that people are finally paying attention, they're trying to
9:36
rewrite history. Unfortunately for them, We're not going to allow
9:39
that to occur. And when I say we, I mean
9:42
all of us. They're all over the place. You ought
9:45
to be speaking about Bill Clinton. Trump then accused Clinton
9:49
of visiting Epstein's private island. Trump said he had never
9:52
visited the island before. Now I've never heard about Trump
9:55
going to the island. Bill Clinton, on the other hand.
9:58
I know for a fact was on the island because
10:01
I was told it directly by somebody who was on
10:04
the island and seldom. And we've also heard from mister
10:06
Scully who said the same thing. So Bill Clinton's whole
10:10
story about never going to the island is straight bs.
10:13
I mean, multiple people have seen him there. But sure,
10:17
go ahead believe whatever he tells you. Clinton also denied
10:20
that he has ever visited the island. In his new memoir, Citizen,
10:24
released in twenty twenty four, Clinton said he'd never gone
10:27
to the island and that he wished he never even
10:29
met Epstein in the first place. Oh, I'm sure, big Billy.
10:33
I am sure that you're just broken up about all
10:36
the fun times you had, which are pal Jeffrey Epstein.
10:39
Spokespeople for Summers and Clinton did not immediately respond to
10:43
a request for comment from Fox News Digital. Somers previously
10:47
served as Treasury Secretary for Clinton, as well as the
10:50
director of the National Economic Council for former President Barack Obama.
10:55
Neither Summers nor Clinton have been accused in engaging and
11:00
any illegal conduct in connection with their ties to Epstein. Well,
11:04
that's true unless you consider the enabling which I do
11:07
to be a big problem because without all these famous
11:11
people around them, all these powerful people, Epstein wouldn't be
11:14
able to do what he did. And until these people
11:17
start accepting that as fact, they're gonna have problems. Charlemagne said,
11:22
party affiliation is irrelevant to the issues associated with Epstein.
11:27
The co host of The Breakfast Club, Morgan would push
11:30
back on Charlemagne. And you know, to that point, though,
11:32
you know, Clinton is not the president right now. You know,
11:35
if he was, you think that anyway, I think he
11:38
should still be under scrutiny if he was the president
11:40
right now. Wood said, well, I don't know about that.
11:44
I mean, Biden was the president. Nobody said shit, we
11:47
had Hillary Clinton running for president and they didn't bring
11:51
up the Epstein stuff. They acted like it didn't exist.
11:54
So there's no doubt that people in the legacy media
11:56
have avoided this story because they know it's going to
11:59
hurt their faves. And that's not me saying that. That's
12:02
what Nancy Pelosi's daughter said, I don't care what party
12:07
they are, no period. No, he wouldn't because liberal media
12:11
wouldn't push the issue. Oh okay, well this comes as
12:14
speaking of liberal media Charlemagne responded, Look, he's not wrong.
12:18
There's a lot of protection that goes on. And if
12:20
you think that the media is not going to try
12:22
and protect people like Clinton when they're running against somebody
12:25
like Trump, you're fucking crazy. So for those of you
12:28
who are new to the story, which is I'm sure
12:30
a lot of you, don't get caught up in that
12:32
whole tunnel vision where you think it's only one side
12:34
or the other, because when you really look at what
12:37
happened and you look at the players on the stage,
12:40
there's plenty of blame to go around, and both sides
12:43
of the aisle have blood on their hands when it
12:45
comes to enabling and being enabled by Jeffrey Epstein, and
12:50
anybody telling you any different is taking you for a ride.
12:54
All of the information that goes with this episode can
12:57
be found in the description. Box Day's article is from
13:02
the New York Post, and it was originally a Reuter's article,
13:07
but the New York Post reran it and the headline no,
13:11
Bill Gates didn't repeatedly visit Jeffrey Epstein's island. So right
13:16
off the bat, it looks like a well a puff
13:19
piece for Bill Gates, right Reuters is like, oh, well,
13:22
we have to come out and we have to defend
13:24
Bill Gates, because how dare anyone attack mister Gates. He's
13:28
such a great man. Meanwhile, we all know that he
13:32
was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein after Epstein's conviction. Now,
13:38
I'm not gonna sit here and say, oh, he was
13:40
on the island for sure. I know that because, as
13:42
you all know here on the podcast, I don't run
13:45
anything that I cannot vet and that I cannot prove
13:50
anything that has not been printed in the legacy media,
13:54
anything that has not been put out in court papers.
13:57
Now I might have suspicions and I might be researching
14:01
things that I don't talk about here on the podcast,
14:04
but the format here is to stay exactly on target
14:07
and stay within the boundaries of the legacy media's own reporting.
14:12
That way, they can never come back and look at
14:15
us and say, oh, you're reading you're talking about Alex
14:18
Jones level of conspiracy theories. Well, that bullshit ain't happening
14:21
here on this podcast. We're talking about your cover up.
14:24
And the fact of the matter is all you have
14:25
to do is go back and read the articles that
14:28
you and your colleagues have published and you'll see because
14:34
Bill Gates, while he might not have been on the
14:36
island a bunch of times, like some people say he has,
14:40
and I'm not saying that they are wrong either. By
14:41
the way, I can't confirm one way or the other
14:44
how many times or if at all, Bill Gates has
14:46
been on this island. Now I'm working to confirm it
14:50
one way or the other. But like everything else in
14:52
this case, it is very convoluted and it is very
14:55
very layered, so it takes a lot of time. And
14:58
that's what they were banking on, and that's how this
15:00
whole entire thing was set up so that it would
15:03
take a lot of legwork to untangle it. All. Right,
15:07
So this article was authored by Reuters, so I'm guessing
15:12
just the staff and it was, like I said, the
15:16
New York Post is rerunning it. Viral claims circulating on
15:21
social media claim that billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates has traveled
15:24
to Jeffrey Epstein's island multiple times. While Gates and Epstein
15:29
had met in the past. This claim, based on flight
15:31
logs recently subpoenad, is untrue. So again, let's read between
15:36
the lines. This claim based on flight logs recently subpoenad
15:41
is untrue. What they're saying is the claim that's based
15:44
on those flight logs might be untrue. But what about
15:49
other evidence, what about other trips, What about the fact
15:52
that Gates might have went there on his own plane.
15:54
We don't know any of that. None of that has
15:56
been released. There's nobody coming out talking about about that yet.
15:59
But of course Reuters has to jump in right away
16:02
with their great fact checkers. How they do on the
16:05
whole entire Russia Gate nonsense, by the way, And these
16:09
guys have to come out with their fact checking right
16:11
away to defend their buddy, Bill Gates. It's so gross,
16:14
It is so damn gross. Here's an idea, here's a
16:17
really good idea. Why doesn't Reuters spend some of their capitals,
16:21
spend some of their money and do a deep dive
16:25
into Bill Gates and his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Why
16:28
aren't they asking why Bill Gates was hanging out with
16:31
Jeffrey Epstein in twenty and thirteen. That's the question that
16:35
should be asked. They shouldn't be running to his defense
16:37
over rumors that he went to the island because as
16:41
you'll see here. Well, he's going to say he didn't
16:44
go to the Palm Beach property in a different article
16:49
that we're going to read write after this, but in
16:51
this article it says that he had never been there.
16:56
It's just such a joke. They contradict themselves in these
16:59
articles right and left. And if we don't do these
17:03
articles the way that we do and cover them the
17:05
way that we do, there's no way that we'd be
17:08
able to follow all of this the way it should
17:10
be followed, because the media has no desire to ever
17:14
follow up on articles that they post. One example, reads
17:19
flight records confirm that Bill Gates went to Epstein's child
17:22
sex trafficking islands seventeen times. It's a fact, not a theory.
17:27
And that kind of stuff is ridiculous as well. Anyone
17:30
who's posting it's a fact not a theory, or this
17:33
person is involved in this, or this person's involved in that,
17:36
and they don't have receipts, and they don't have evidence,
17:39
and they don't even have any sort of circumstantial evidence. Well,
17:44
I look at those people as disinformation agents. So anytime
17:48
I see somebody claiming that they have some inside information
17:51
in this case, and they don't have anything to back
17:52
it up. I am automatically skeptical, and that goes for
17:56
both sides of the argument. So while I don't know
18:00
if Bill Gates went to this island, I don't know
18:02
one way or the other for sure if he was
18:04
ever on the island. What I do know is people
18:07
that are out here talking about, oh, he was there
18:10
seventeen times. It's a fact, not a theory without providing evidence.
18:13
Those kind of people are very harmful for what's going
18:16
on in this case. Following his arrest on July sixth,
18:20
twenty nineteen, financier pedophile that Reuters is still calling him
18:25
a financier. Folks, are you kidding me? Right now? Jeffrey
18:28
Epstein pleaded not guilty to sex trafficking charges involving dozens
18:32
of underage girls at his mansions on Manhattan's Upper East
18:36
Side and in Palm Beach, Florida. He had escaped federal
18:39
prosecution by pleading guilty in two thousand and eight the
18:42
Florida state prostitution charges, an agreement now widely considered too lenient.
18:47
Epstein was found dead in his jail cell on August tenth,
18:50
twenty and nineteen again the financier, the pedophile once counted
18:56
President Trump, former President Bill Clinton, and Britain's Britain's Prince
19:00
Andrew is friends. They have not been accused of any
19:03
criminal wrongdoing. That's wrong. Prince Andrew was accused of criminal
19:07
wrongdoing by Virginia Roberts. Why don't you state that in
19:09
your article? Reuters. Reuters is part of the problem, folks.
19:13
They're one of the worst. They are one of the
19:15
worst legacy media outlets out there. Straight trash reporting. They
19:19
don't dig even an inch below the surface, and they
19:23
run narratives. That's all they do is run narratives. It's
19:26
such a gross, gross outlet. The private planes used by
19:31
Epstein to travel to his island in the Caribbean, Little
19:34
Saint James in the US Virgin Islands has been referred
19:37
to in the media as the Lolita Express following the
19:41
accusations of him trafficking miners. I don't even like to
19:44
refer to it as that. How about just the gross
19:47
ass plane that these gross ass, disgusting animals flew on,
19:51
the Lolita Express. Why are we gonna give it any
19:53
kind of like flavor? Right, There's nothing cool about Jeffrey Epstein.
19:57
There's nothing cool about the way he lived his life.
20:00
There's nothing cool about the people he hung out with,
20:02
and there's certainly nothing cool about the things he was
20:06
involved in.
20:06
Speaker 2: All right.
20:07
Speaker 1: So let's not try and you know, give his plane
20:09
a cool name, all right, Let's just call it the
20:11
piece of Shit's plane. In July twenty nineteen, The New
20:16
York Times reported that the pilots that flew Epstein's private planes,
20:19
including to his island in the Caribbean, had released records
20:23
of flight logs, including names of those who had traveled
20:26
on the planes. So again, that's very informative, right, The
20:29
flight logs are very important, but it's not all. That's
20:33
not the be all end all. We know that there's
20:35
more documentation to be released, and we know that there's
20:37
more flight logs to be released. So for Reuters to
20:40
jump in with both feet here and declare that this
20:43
is not true without having all of the evidence, because
20:46
we know that Reuters has not done more than a
20:50
casual look at what's going on here, For them to
20:53
jump in with both feet and declare that, oh, this
20:56
is a fact, this is not true, it's such a
20:59
joke to me, It's such a joke to me that
21:01
these legacy media outlets honestly believe that anybody is buying
21:05
their bullshit anymore. Do any of you out there look
21:08
at Reuter's and say, well, Reuter's fact check did, I
21:10
can move on. I don't have to do my own research.
21:13
Of course, not. Nobody looks at the legacy media like that,
21:16
especially outlets like Reuters. Copies of these flight logs can
21:21
be seen online, uploaded by Gawker dot com and FactCheck
21:25
dot org. Reuters found no mention of Bill Gates in
21:28
the first collection of flight logs, and only one instance
21:31
in the second. The log shows Bill Gates noted as
21:34
a passenger on March first, twenty thirteen, from Teterborough Airport,
21:39
New Jersey, to Palm Beach International Airport, Florida, not to
21:43
Little Saint James. So that's not a big deal. It's
21:48
only a big deal if he goes to Little Saint James.
21:50
That's the only place people were abused, Breaking News Reuters
21:54
Palm Beach was a hellhole, an absolute house of hers,
21:57
where Jeffrey Epstein abused underage girls and girls of age.
22:01
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's oh, it's okay.
22:02
Speaker 1: That that Bill Gates flew down there, and why is
22:06
he flying on Epstein's plane? Anyway? Doesn't Bill Gates have
22:09
his own jet? Why are you on Epstein's plane? The
22:11
same thing I asked about Trump? What was Trump doing
22:14
on Epstein's plane that one time that they have him
22:16
on the log? You have your own plane, bro, If
22:18
you and this dude aren't so close, why are you
22:20
flying on his plane? These are the questions that have
22:24
to be asked. The legacy media does not want to
22:27
do their job. So here we are once again picking
22:31
up the slack and filling in the holes. A screenshot
22:37
circulating on some media reports replicates this log entry. In
22:40
twenty thirteen, The New York Times corroborated this single trip
22:44
to Florida and reported that Bill gates spokeswoman said, mister Gates,
22:48
who has his own forty million dollar jet, hadn't been
22:51
aware it was mister Epstein's plane. Such bullshit. So Bill
22:55
Gates just gets on anybody's plane, just you know, shows
22:57
up at the airport, at the private docking area the
23:00
airport and says, ah, yeah, i'mnna get on this plane.
23:02
I don't know whose it is, but it's going to
23:04
Palm Beach. Right, Yeah, I'm gonna get on. It's such bullshit.
23:08
He knew he was getting on Epstein's plane, and he
23:10
doesn't want to cop to it because he doesn't want
23:12
to create more of a firestorm around his relationship with
23:15
the son of a bitch. But I got news for you,
23:17
mister Gates. All right, you are also on the clock.
23:23
The Times reported that Bill Gates had met with Epstein
23:26
multiple times. This was after Epstein had been convicted of
23:30
past sex crimes. The Times reported that beginning in twenty eleven,
23:34
mister Gates met with mister Epstein on numerous occasions, and
23:37
employees of mister Gates Foundation also paid multiple visits to
23:41
mister Epstein's mansion. Exchanges were recorded and reported by the newspaper,
23:47
including possible philanthropic collaboration. Oh well, it's all good then, right,
23:52
because it was all about charity. It was all about charity.
23:56
Bill Gates, one of the richest men in the world,
23:58
needs Jeffrey Epstein to chip in for his charities. Bill Gates,
24:01
the man giving away billions all the time, can't fork
24:04
over his own dough for the charity. Huh had to
24:06
have Jeffrey Epstein's money had to have that dirty ass,
24:09
disgusting pedophile money. Huh, Bill Gates. For Reuters to come
24:13
out and defend this guy and to act like, well,
24:15
he was only on he never went to that Caribbean island.
24:18
So how dare you bring up Bill Gates' name. It's disgusting,
24:21
it's gross, and Reuter's well, I won't even tell you
24:26
what I feel about Ruter's. To claim, however, that Gates
24:30
visited Epstein's island multiple times is baseless. Reuter's was unable
24:34
to find any flight logs corroborating this allegation. It appears
24:38
Gates flew on an aircraft of Epstein's once, but this
24:42
was to Florida. A spokesperson for the Bill and Mullinda
24:45
Gates Foundation confirmed to Reuter's via email that this claim
24:49
is untrue false. While Gates had met with Epstein, flight
24:53
logs disprove he visited Epstein's Caribbean island multiple times. That's
24:58
Reuter's telling you to pack it in, folks. That's Reuter's
25:00
telling me to stop investigating. They have it all under control.
25:04
They've done such a good job with this case from
25:06
the very beginning that you and I should just step
25:08
back and not worry about what's going on, because the
25:12
professionals in the legacy media, they're on the case. They're
25:15
gonna make sure that all this shit goes down right,
25:18
and they're gonna do a proper investigation this time. Man,
25:21
shut up, shut up. Nobody believes you, Reuters. You're a
25:26
garbage outlet. You do garbage work. And the fact that
25:29
you're coming to defend Jeffrey Epstein right here, right now,
25:33
by via defending Bill Gates is gross, straight up gross.
25:39
And what we're going to do is now it says
25:42
here that Bill Gates visited the Palm Beach mansion once, right,
25:48
according to this flight log, he was there one time. Well,
25:52
we have another article from the Verge where he denies
25:55
ever even going to Palm Beach. So which is it,
25:58
mister Gates, were you there or weren't you there? We're
26:02
gonna read this second article right now so that you
26:05
have perspectives, so that you have context, and so that
26:07
you know that Reuters is lying to you. They don't
26:11
want to fact They only want to fact checked the
26:13
narrative that they want to fact check. They should be
26:15
fact checking the whole entire thing. But of course they don't,
26:19
so we're going to do it for them, all right.
26:24
So this article is from The Verge, and in this
26:27
article you'll see that Bill Gates denies that he even
26:31
ever went to Palm Beach. Meanwhile, in the New Reuter's article,
26:35
it clearly states that at least one time he was
26:37
on Jeffrey Epstein's play and end flew to Palm Beach.
26:39
So what should we believe? What should we believe? Should
26:42
we just believe Reuters? Should we believe Bill Gates? Isn't
26:46
it Reuter's job to really do a deep dive into
26:49
all of this shit before they dip their toes into it,
26:52
because now they look like a bunch of morons. I know,
26:54
it's obvious they always look like a bunch of morons,
26:57
but even more so at this point. All right, So
26:59
let's check out this article from The Verge. The verge
27:03
dot com headline Bill Gates had a closer relationship with
27:07
Jeffrey Epstein, then he admitted The New York Times reports
27:11
Epstein was involved with the Gates personally and his namesake foundation.
27:15
This article was published on October twelfth, and the author
27:19
is Elizabeth Lopatto Nice Italian young lady hunh. All right,
27:24
So Bill Gates, the co founder of Microsoft and chairman
27:27
of its board until twenty fourteen, was among the powerful
27:31
men who spent a meaningful amount of time with the
27:33
sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. According to reporting from The New
27:37
York Times, employees of the Gates Namesake Foundation reportedly also
27:42
met with Epstein in multiple visits to the disgraced financiers mansion. Pedophile,
27:47
You mean, and it's obvious what's going on here. Bill
27:51
Gates and Jeffrey Epstein built a relationship after Jeffrey Epstein
27:55
was arrested. Okay, that's a fact. You want to fact
27:57
check something, Reuter's fact check. That also a fact that
28:01
Bill Gates spent a lot more time with Epstein than
28:04
he let on. Okay, Now, as far as the island goes,
28:09
Reuters is one hundred percent sure that he's never been there. Me,
28:12
on the other hand, I am not so sure. Now
28:15
we still have we don't have the evidence that he's
28:17
been there, right, I haven't seen that evidence come across
28:20
my desk, that's for sure. But I have not had
28:22
anything conclusively telling me he hasn't been there. So I'm
28:26
willing to wait and see. Unlike Reuters, who you would
28:31
think that, you know, these people went to journalism school,
28:33
they have you know, a bunch of a bunch of money,
28:36
an editor, blah blah blah. You would think that they
28:38
would be on the right path, But once again they
28:41
are not. Previously, Gates had told the Wall Street Journal
28:47
that he didn't have a business relationship or friendship with Epstein.
28:50
I met him, Gates told the journal on September tenth,
28:53
I didn't have any business relationship or friendship with him.
28:56
Now here's what's important, folks, listen to this. Okay, you
28:59
getting ready. I didn't go to New Mexico or Florida
29:03
or pomp Beach or any of that. There were people
29:05
around him who were saying, hey, if you want to
29:07
raise money for global health and get more philanthropy, he
29:10
knows a lot of rich people. Now, what did we
29:13
just hear in the article from Reuters he had never
29:17
been to the Palm Beach mansion. I thought the article
29:21
in Reuter said he had been there one time. Right,
29:23
That's where the flight was from Teterborow to Palm Beach.
29:27
And also what plane was Yon? Was Yon the Disgustoid's plane.
29:33
I bet he was, folks, I bet he was. And
29:36
if Reuter's was worth their weight in salt, they'd actually
29:39
do a deep dive into this. But their garbage, they're trash,
29:42
and guess what, I just accept that at this point.
29:44
I accept the fact that they're never going to tell
29:46
us the real story. And I also accept the fact
29:49
that anytime I read anything or hear anything on TV,
29:52
that it's up to me to vet that and fact
29:55
check it to make sure that it's true. How pathetic
30:00
that we have to fact check the news organizations because
30:05
they In the New York Times article, a spokeswoman for
30:09
Gates declined to say how many times the pair had met.
30:12
The papers reporting show that Gates met with Epstein numerous times,
30:16
including at least three times at Epstein's townhouse. His lifestyle
30:20
is very different and kind of intriguing, although it would
30:22
not work for me, Gates wrote in a twenty eleven
30:25
email to colleagues. His spokeswoman says he was referring only
30:28
to the unique decor of the Epstein residence. That's what
30:32
he meant to when he said lifestyle, just the decor.
30:35
What a bunch of bullshit, And the fact that these
30:38
outlets don't ever call Bill Gates out on this shit
30:41
is so absurd, all right, it is absolutely absurd, and
30:45
I will not stand for it. I personally will not
30:48
stand for it. And Bill Gates, you are certainly on
30:51
the clock, my friend. You are certainly on the clock
30:54
because you have some answering to do. We've proven you
30:56
to be a liar, just in these two articles. A
30:59
guy in his studio, in his home, in his pajamas
31:02
is doing harder legwork than Reuter's. Chew on that for
31:05
a minute, folks. Bill Gates regrets ever meeting with Epstein
31:10
and recognizes it was an error in judgment to do so.
31:13
Reading in between the lines, what he means is he
31:15
regrets that he was ever caught being friends with Jeffrey Epstein.
31:18
He doesn't regret the relationship itself, folks. Let's be real,
31:22
his spokeswoman told The New York Times, Gates recognizes that
31:26
entertaining Epstein's ideas related to philanthropy gave Epstein an undeserved
31:30
platform that was at odds with Gates' personal values and
31:33
the values of his foundation. No, it wasn't. Bill Gates
31:36
is just another dirt bag in my opinion, another scummy
31:39
son of a bitch thief who cheated his way to
31:42
the top and crapped on the people below him to
31:45
get there. He's not some American victory story. Okay, just
31:50
another piece of garbage in my opinion. Sorry. The Gates
31:54
Foundation has committed one billion dollars to gender equality. Melinda Gates,
31:58
Bill's wife and co chair of the Gates Foundation, has
32:01
said one billion is only a small fraction of what's necessary.
32:04
The foundation has often touted its commitment to women and girls. Yeah,
32:08
of course they have. That's their cover story, right, Oh,
32:11
we give out so much money to women and girls.
32:14
We would never really know with Jeffrey Epstein, So they
32:17
use it as their shield, as their armor. But guess
32:20
what we see through their bullshit now. That story, that
32:23
cover worked for as long as the media was able
32:25
to run their narrative. They are no longer able to
32:28
do so because of you, folks, All because of you.
32:35
In twenty eleven, Gates instructed a team to meet Epstein
32:38
at his townhouse to discuss philanthropic fundraising, and The New
32:42
York Times reports Epstein told the people there that his
32:46
conviction for soliciting prostitution from an underage girl was no
32:50
worse than stealing a bagel, according to two people who
32:53
were there. So this is the kind of fuck oh man,
32:57
this is the kind of stuff that Jeffrey Epstein would
32:59
say around Bill Gates's people, around Bill Gates's associates, and
33:04
probably around Bill Gates himself. And yet Bill Gates was
33:07
still meeting with him, still trying to get money from him,
33:10
still working with him. I don't care what you're working on.
33:14
There is no reason for a man like Bill Gates
33:17
to be associating with a pedophile like Jeffrey Epstein. The
33:24
two remained in contact, and at one point in twenty thirteen,
33:27
Gates flew on Epstein's jet from New Jersey to Palm Beach, Florida,
33:31
according to a flight manifest So there you go. Bill
33:34
Gates is a liar. We've already proved it in two articles, folks.
33:37
That's the whole reason I'm reading the second article to
33:39
provide context for the first. Would it really be that
33:44
hard for Reuters to add that into their article. No,
33:48
they're too busy gaslighting you. They're too busy with their bullshit.
33:55
Gates spokeswoman claims Gates, who owns his own private jet,
33:58
didn't know its Epstein's plane. Though the relationship between Gates
34:01
and Epstein apparently cooled off after twenty fourteen, the Gates
34:05
Foundation remained in contact with Epstein through twenty seventeen. According
34:10
to Today's reporting, two members of Gates' inner circles served
34:13
as intermediate intermediaries between Gates and Epstein. One, Melanie Walker,
34:18
met Epstein after she graduated from college in nineteen ninety two.
34:22
She moved to New York, where she stayed in a
34:24
building owned by Epstein. She also worked for Epstein in
34:27
nineteen ninety eight as a science advisor. After graduating from
34:31
medical school, she joined the Gates Foundation in two thousand
34:34
and six. And I believe that that is the neurosurgeon
34:39
that Epstein had for Prince Andrew. You see how the
34:43
circles all interconnect. You see how the spider web is weaved, folks.
34:47
And if you're not on your shit, if you're not
34:49
on your game and you take one day off covering
34:51
this case, you will be left behind. That was where
34:59
she met Boris Nikolitch, who was the Gates Foundation science advisor.
35:03
She introduced him to Epstein. Nikolitch, who now runs a
35:06
venture capital firm, was named as a fallback executor to
35:09
Epstein's will. He has declined to do so in court proceedings.
35:13
Gates is an investor in Nikolitch's firm. According to The
35:17
New York Times, Nikolitch says, I deeply regret ever meeting Epstein. No,
35:21
you don't you regret being outed. You regret people knowing
35:24
that you met Epstein. And furthermore, if him and Boris
35:27
Nikolitch weren't so close, if they didn't have a strong relationship,
35:31
why would he add him as an executor? Con and
35:35
Endyke were very close to Epstein. We know that Indyke
35:37
was his house lawyer, and we know Kahn was attached
35:40
to him at the hip. So if Nikolitch wasn't a
35:43
valued member of Jeffrey Epstein's operation, of Jeffrey Epstein's inner circle,
35:47
why was he also named an executor? Was that too
35:51
much for reuters to ask, too much for them to
35:53
delve a little deeper, or too busy just running their
35:57
fact check, counter narrative bullshit? You see, folks, the legacy
36:02
media has failed you. The Fourth Estate has lost its way,
36:08
and every single time they come out with one of
36:11
these bullshit stories and they attempt to lie to you.
36:14
In this case, you can guarantee that I will be
36:17
right here on the Jeffrey Epstein Show to read in
36:20
between the lines and to call them out on their
36:23
utter bullshit. If you'd like to contact me, you could
36:29
do that at Bobby Kapucci at ProtonMail dot com. That's
36:32
bobbycap u Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can also
36:38
find me on Twitter at What's Up everyone, And welcome
36:41
back to the Epstein Chronicles over here at NBC News.
36:47
The author of the article that we're about to dive
36:50
into think she knows what she's talking about when it
36:52
comes to Jeffrey Epstein and what's going on here. But
36:56
all you have to do is read the article to
36:57
understand that she has a very basic understanding of what
37:01
went on, of what went down, and this whole article
37:05
is nothing more than cover because one of her faves
37:08
or some of her faves were mentioned in the document dump.
37:13
The one thing that they get right in this article
37:15
is that just because you're named in the document dump,
37:17
it doesn't mean that you were taking part in the abuse.
37:21
I have to keep stressing that because there's people out
37:23
there that don't understand. They think that if you were
37:26
named in the documents that it's some kind of list.
37:29
Speaker 2: It's not.
37:30
Speaker 1: These are all old documents. These all have to do
37:33
with a defamation suit between Virginia Roberts and Gleam Maxwell.
37:39
That being said, to label this stuff as conspiracy theory,
37:43
to label this stuff as you know, just the workings
37:46
of mad men and mad women is very dangerous, honestly,
37:50
and it's doing you, the reader and people out there
37:53
who are trying to understand what happened a disservice.
37:56
Speaker 2: But have no fear.
37:57
Speaker 1: Your boy got you, So dive into this article and
38:01
let's dissect it. Like I said, this article is from
38:05
NBC News and the headline Jeffrey Epstein document release continues
38:10
to keep online conspiracy theorists invested. So everybody out there
38:14
who's interested in this case is a conspiracy theorist. Don't
38:20
you think that normal people, just regular old folks like you,
38:24
are interested in the fact that this guy was paling
38:26
around with some of the most high profile people in
38:28
the world. And not only that, but scores that NPA
38:32
gets all the homie hookups, has all of these connections,
38:36
but no, you should have any kind of questions about that.
38:39
You should have no curiosity. Sit down and shut up
38:42
conspiracy theorists. That's basically what they're telling you here at
38:46
NBC News. Imagine if they would have spent the time
38:48
that they took to write this article to actually educate
38:51
people about how deep the ties between Bill Clinton and
38:54
Jeffrey Epstein really were. But instead what they do is
38:57
run cover. And we all know the reason. It's all
38:59
in the name politics. It's all in the name of
39:01
not giving the other side any fodder because you know
39:05
they're faves. In all, newly released documents from a settled
39:09
lawsuit involving the late financier you mean pedophile Jeffrey Epstein
39:13
held few new details, but that hasn't stopped social media
39:17
users from speculating about high profile names found in the pages.
39:22
Hundreds of pages released Wednesday night were a part of
39:24
his civil defamation lawsuit filed in twenty fifteen against Epstein.
39:29
Confidant you mean co conspirator, right, you mean human trafficker? Right,
39:32
you mean scumbag?
39:34
Speaker 2: Right?
39:34
Speaker 1: Klainne Maxwell by Virginia Roberts, who said she was a
39:38
victim of sex trafficking and abuse. What do you means said?
39:41
I thought it was believe all women NBC Virginia Roberts
39:46
has been paid out how many times? And furthermore, for
39:48
those of you in the media that don't understand what
39:51
went down here, the second that the estate paid out
39:54
any sort of settlement to these women, the whole alleged
39:57
shit goes out the window. Okay, they paid because they
40:00
were abused, not because they showed up to extort the estate.
40:04
So save the alleged ship for somebody else you want
40:07
to talk about allegedly abused when talking about Prince Andrew
40:10
in Virginia. Fine, but Jeffrey Epstein, give me a break. Yeah,
40:14
it's alleged. No, the dude molested or the dude raptor,
40:17
and he did it to countless women. Maxwell is serving
40:21
a twenty year prison sentence after she was convicted in
40:24
twenty twenty one of helping Epstein recruit and sexually abuse
40:28
teenage girls.
40:29
Speaker 2: She also helped with the abuse.
40:31
Speaker 1: You see what I mean these legacy media articles, they
40:35
don't even have the basic knowledge of what's going on.
40:37
So if they don't even understand the basic story, how
40:40
can they tell what's a conspiracy and what's not. Since
40:43
his death, Epstein has taken on an almost mythical status
40:47
in many online communities prone to conspiracy theories and inspired
40:50
general skepticism of those in power. The statement Epstein didn't
40:54
kill himself became a common enough refrain to be basis
40:58
for a Wikipedia article, and the subdit dedicated to him
41:01
and his crime counts more than one hundred and seven
41:04
thousand members. Well what should that tell you, NBC News?
41:08
People want answers. People aren't happy or going to accept
41:13
the BS whitewash job that you dudes are dropping on us.
41:17
So why don't you get down to it? Why don't
41:19
you really get down into the weeds. Why don't you
41:21
talk about Nicholas star Taglioni. Why don't you talk about
41:24
the fact that video went missing. Why don't you talk
41:27
about the fact that the whole entire camera system was working,
41:30
except shockingly enough, the camera that was pointed at Epstein's
41:34
cell during the first alleged suicide attempt. Can we talk
41:38
about that a little bit? The truth is, most of
41:40
these outlets couldn't have that conversation because they don't have
41:44
all of the details. They don't know the nuance and
41:46
they haven't scratched further than under the surface.
41:50
Speaker 2: While various theories have swirled.
41:52
Speaker 1: Around Epstein, most center on the idea that he is
41:54
the key to uncovering secret, widespread corruption and abuse, element
41:59
shared with other popular conspiracy.
42:01
Speaker 2: Theories, including QA.
42:02
Speaker 1: Non interest in Epstein rose in December when a judge
42:06
ordered the disclosure of the names of over one hundred
42:08
and fifty people mentioned in Cored documents relating to them.
42:12
Much of the fascination has been around Epstein's list, a
42:15
misnomer for the names mentioned in various cored documents related
42:19
to Epstein, which don't necessarily indicate wrongdoing. Numerous posts detailing
42:24
Epstein's list got traction online without context, fueling speculation about
42:29
the actions of those named. Paul Bleakley, an assistant professor
42:34
of criminal justice at the University of New Haven, said
42:37
some people are under the misconception that the court released
42:40
an official list of Epstein's clients. They did not do that.
42:43
I've been telling you folks that for a while now.
42:45
This is not a list. These are just documents that
42:48
are related to that lawsuit, and the real function of
42:51
those documents is just to act as receipts to the
42:54
stuff that we already knew. So anybody coming out here
42:57
and telling you that this is a list that contains
42:59
a of clients, that's incorrect. That is not true. But
43:04
if you want to cross reference, you could see that
43:06
a lot of these people that are being named here
43:08
in these files were also in Jeffrey Epstein's Black Book.
43:12
So it's not really that large of alipe to have
43:14
some questions. Right, if you're in that Black Book, we
43:17
have questions, and having questions about something certainly doesn't make
43:21
you a conspiracy theorist. Most people are not going to
43:24
go through the original files. Well, we're not most people,
43:28
bleakly said. Most people will see a list, see it
43:30
being purported to be what was released, and will take
43:33
their opinions in fact from there. That's what's really dangerous,
43:37
because it completely misrepresents what was released. He's not wrong
43:41
about that. Calling it a list is incorrect. It is
43:44
not a list. What it is is more receipts. Many
43:48
assume that people mentioned in the lists were implicated in
43:50
criminal behavior, which wasn't the case in many instances. Celebrities
43:55
like Kate Blanchett, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Cameron Diaz, for example,
43:59
were briefly mentioned in the documents as examples of famous
44:02
contacts Epstein liked to name drop. Still, some social media
44:06
users saw their names listed and condemned them. Well, not
44:10
for nothing, but how many of those people have come
44:12
forward and given statements, How many of them have been deposed.
44:15
How many of them have come out in support of
44:17
the survivors? Not very many, right, So it's a two
44:20
way street here. I will say this though, just because
44:23
you're in these documents that does not mean you were
44:25
partaking in the abuse. Your best bet is to listen
44:29
to the survivors about who was partaking and who wasn't.
44:32
Blakely added that some of the lists remove contexts that
44:35
is important to prevent people misguidedly being accused of things.
44:39
He said, it's also dangerous because it's ques understanding of
44:42
the case itself, which can affect the ongoing fight for
44:45
justice for Epstein's survivors, not victims, ongoing justice. When is
44:50
that going to occur? Because we've been screaming from mountaintops
44:53
for years now and there's not any justice to be seen.
44:56
If there was, then all of these associates would be
44:59
wrapped up. If there was, there would be a Rico
45:01
case drop on all of these fools. But that never happened,
45:05
did it. Here we are, all these years later, still
45:08
talking about the same things. So I don't even know
45:10
what mister Bleaklee is talking about here. And if mister
45:14
Bleakley was serious about justice for the survivors, he'd be
45:17
out here advocating that Congress or the Senate set up
45:20
a committee and bring every last person before them with
45:23
subpoenas to talk about Epstein. Has that happened yet? That's right,
45:29
it hasn't. Ask yourselves why. Joseph Uchinsky, a political science
45:34
professor at the University of Miami who studies conspiracy theories, said,
45:39
the reality of document dumps can be less clarifying than
45:42
people expect. That is true, and that's why we're going
45:45
through them one by one and parsing them down. That way,
45:48
we can get an idea of what they contain and
45:50
get all of the context that we need to understand
45:53
what the hell's going on. And the best way to
45:55
get there is to have as much context as possible.
45:59
They all think there is going to be something in
46:00
there that's going to give them what they already believe
46:03
and rarely does it do that, Uchinsky said, Still that
46:07
doesn't stop people from speculating or holding out hope that
46:10
they will be proved right in the future. People want
46:14
to get confirmation, Uchinsky said, even if it's not there,
46:17
they'll still see it. And if it's not there, then
46:20
they'll say, oh, the real stuff was redacted, and I
46:22
know it's going to be in the next dump. Bleakly
46:25
said the Epstein case was and continues to be a
46:28
useful political tool in the current partisan political environment. Many
46:32
of the reactions to the newly released documents came from
46:35
either staunch supporters or critics of former President Donald Trump,
46:39
both of whom felt the documents were proof of some
46:42
sort of belief that they had about his relationship to Epstein.
46:45
Bleakly said. Trump has said he hadn't been in touch
46:49
with Epstein for fifteen years before his death. Flight records
46:53
made public in twenty nineteen show former President Bill Clinton
46:57
flew on Epstein's planes numerous times. He was also mentioned
47:01
in the documents and an online posts. A spokesman for
47:04
Clinton referred NBC News on Wednesday to a statement from
47:08
twenty nineteen that said he had not spoken to Epstein
47:11
in over a decade and that he was unaware of
47:13
any criminal activity at the time. Well, okay, that's fine
47:17
and well, but we know about the seventeen trips Epstein
47:20
made to the White House. We know he brought five
47:22
girls to the White House.
47:23
Speaker 2: Two.
47:24
Speaker 1: Can we get some answers about that or A you're
47:26
gonna just keep referring us to the twenty nineteen statement
47:29
that's filled with inaccuracies. It's on Bill Clinton to answer
47:34
these questions, it's not on anybody else to stop asking them.
47:38
And to try and say that people are conspiracy theorists
47:40
for asking about Bill Clinton is really a poor reflection
47:43
on NBC News and the author here, because there's a
47:46
lot of questions about Bill Clinton and his activity with
47:49
Jeffrey Epstein that need to be answered. And again, I'm
47:52
not just popping off at the mouth. We have a
47:54
stack of receipts. Go back and listen to the episodes,
47:56
and each one of those episodes, mind you, is sourced
47:59
by an article that's out there for the public to
48:01
consume and for me anyway, I think that.
48:03
Speaker 2: These whitewash type articles are as.
48:06
Speaker 1: Dangerous as conspiracy theories because what they do is they
48:10
have people thinking that there was nothing really going on here,
48:14
that this is all just all made up stuff by
48:16
crazies online. When that's not the case. Go and ask
48:20
the survivors. Go and ask the unnamed girls that we
48:23
have never even heard from. Go ahead and ask them
48:26
if this is a conspiracy theory, Go and ask them
48:28
what their opinions of Bill Clinton are. Bleakly said online
48:32
echo chambers have allowed people to reinforce their beliefs, which
48:36
he said has fueled conspiratorial thinking and extreme partisanship in
48:40
recent years. You can release as much evidence as you
48:43
like and there will always be people saying this was fabricated,
48:47
this is a cover up. I believe what I believe.
48:49
He said, Well, not here. I believe the evidence. And
48:52
so far all this evidence that mister Bleakley's talking about
48:56
has never appeared. We haven't seen any evidence about what
48:59
happened in a jail cell. All we have is Bill
49:01
Barr's word and the word of the Inspector General, who
49:04
doesn't even talk about TARTAGLIONI. I mean, come on, is
49:08
anybody ever going to talk about the fact that Epstein
49:10
was in a cell with TARTAGLIONI a dude that was
49:13
in the lockup as a quadruple murderer. What's he doing
49:16
in a jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein. Victims bleakly said
49:21
can often become collateral damage and conspiracy theorist hunt for
49:24
more documents you know where else. They can become collateral
49:27
damage when the legacy media ignores what they tell them,
49:30
when the legacy media protects Jeffrey Epstein, when the legacy
49:34
media doesn't do their job and destroy those in power,
49:38
when the legacy media continuously ignores these accusations because they
49:43
want to protect their buddies, because that's what happened. Vanity
49:48
Fair and the rest of them. They ran a bang up,
49:52
whitewashed job on Jeffrey Epstein, and they never even added
49:55
any of the information that the Farmer sisters gave them
49:58
about Epstein and his operation, which in part led to
50:02
Epstein molesting more girls for years and years and years
50:04
and years. So the legacy media as a whole should
50:08
probably take a look in the mirror before they talk
50:10
about who's dangerous and who's not. They can also be
50:13
an afterthought in the online conversation about Epstein's crimes, despite
50:18
being the ones most affected by them. He's not wrong
50:20
about that. Remember, the focus should always be on the survivors,
50:24
on what they went through and the fact that they
50:26
didn't receive justice. This is not a political program. This
50:30
isn't a witch hunt to score political points and smash
50:34
your enemies with the hammer. This is about justice and
50:36
holding those in power to account. Bleakly said, people can
50:40
often use such cases for their own self satisfaction, dehumanizing
50:44
victims in the process. That shoe fits on both feet.
50:47
And if you're not taking what they say seriously and
50:50
you're calling all of it a conspiracy, you don't think
50:52
that's hurtful. You don't think they look at that and say,
50:55
why should I come forward and tell my story if
50:57
nobody's gonna believe me. Well, I can tell you from
51:01
first hand conversations with people who are directly affected by this,
51:06
it is hurtful, and the most certainly leads to some
51:08
survivors not coming forward and telling their stories. I think
51:13
that it's a really sort of toxic trend that we
51:15
have in today's culture, where in the quest to say, well,
51:18
I was right all along, that others are inadvertently hurt
51:22
in the wake of that. He said, and look, the
51:24
author's not wrong when they talk about conspiracy theories being hurtful,
51:28
being damaging.
51:29
Speaker 2: They are.
51:30
Speaker 1: But in a case like this, everything's not black and white.
51:33
There's a lot of nuance. So what's a conspiracy, what's not?
51:36
Things that were thought to be a conspiracy have proved
51:39
not to be. So this is one of those cases
51:41
where if you're closing off your options at all, then
51:45
you're going to be behind the eight ball when it
51:47
comes to understanding and truly grasping what went down here.
51:51
So considering all of that, we're going to keep on
51:53
keeping on here, and we'll keep digging deeper than just
51:56
the surface as we swim through the muck to try
51:59
and get to the clay. All of the information that
52:02
goes with this episode can be found in the description box.