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Steve Price | 7 June · Steve Price

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  Speaker 1: Live. This is Steve Brice. Welcome to the show. We
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  Speaker 1: love Friday Nights. As we head into what's a long
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  Speaker 1: weekend in much of Australia, I'm thinking about all those
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  Speaker 1: people being affected by those heavy downpours of rain around
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  Speaker 1: the East Coast of Australia. Will keep an eye on that.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up tonight on Steve Price Fridays. The latest on
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  Speaker 1: a story that broke while I was filling in for
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  Speaker 1: Peter Crendon last night, the confrontation at Camera Airport between
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  Speaker 1: businessmen and former Treasurer of Peter Costello and a journalist
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  Speaker 1: from the Australian newspaper Liam Mendez. Something there does not
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  Speaker 1: add up. Darny Telegraph crimeitor Mark Murray's a Friday Night regular.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to join us tonight and take a look
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  Speaker 1: at the crime gang called Brothers for Life. They started
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  Speaker 1: in Sydney, we're now told by authorities they've spread their
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  Speaker 1: wings into Melbourne. Plus the week in news through the
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  Speaker 1: eyes of that brilliant cartoonist Mark Knight. Mark will be
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  Speaker 1: in the studio going through his cartoons of the week.
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  Speaker 1: So why does the incident at Camera Airport involving a
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  Speaker 1: reporter from the Australian newspaper and the chairman of a
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  Speaker 1: publicly listed media company. Matter, is it just a media
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  Speaker 1: beat up media talking about media or something more than that?
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  Speaker 1: Given the current debate in this country though around toxic masculinity,
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  Speaker 1: bullying and workplace safety for women, it is one hell
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  Speaker 1: of a bad look for the chairman of a media
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  Speaker 1: company to be involved in a confrontation, no matter if
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  Speaker 1: there was physical contact or not, and Peter Costello says
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  Speaker 1: there was not. Peter Costello seem to be initiating a
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  Speaker 1: dodgy plumber imitating, I should say, a dodgy plumber on
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  Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon? Has he stormed through the camera airport just
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  Speaker 1: like the crook tradees on his flagship Current Affairs program,
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  Speaker 1: A Current Affair the former Treasurer didn't like having a
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  Speaker 1: camera shoved in his face. Instead, the arrogant smirk in
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  Speaker 1: the face of legitimate questions I believe from Liam Mendez
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  Speaker 1: of The Australian turned in to an aggressive strut. Mendes
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  Speaker 1: and importantly at least two witnesses claim the one time
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  Speaker 1: success at a Prime Minister John Howard appears to drop
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  Speaker 1: his right shoulder into the reporter audio. Then records him
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  Speaker 1: laughing out loud. Mendez hit the ground and called on
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  Speaker 1: Peter Costello to explain why he'd been assaulted.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you've got to answer the questions, mister Costello. You've
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  Speaker 2: just assaulted. You've just assaulted me.
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  Speaker 1: Nines chairman then ignored Mendez and kept walking to a
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  Speaker 1: waiting limousine to be driven to Parliament House. Ironically, Costello
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  Speaker 1: was in Canberra to open a new office for his
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  Speaker 1: TV network in Parliament House, in the corridors that he
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  Speaker 1: knows all too well. This is what he told the
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  Speaker 1: Canberra political reporters.
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  Speaker 3: When I came through Cambra Airport, there was a reporter
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  Speaker 3: walking backwards with his phone filming. As I walked past him.
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  Speaker 3: He walked back into an advertising black card and he fell.
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  Speaker 3: I did not strike him. If he's upset about that,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry upset.
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  Speaker 1: The journalist was in a public place, simply doing a
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  Speaker 1: job for his paper. He says he copped a shirt
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  Speaker 1: front from the Essendon supporting chairman of a publicly listed
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  Speaker 1: media company. And remember this is a company embroiled in
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  Speaker 1: a series of shocking claims about its macho culture that
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  Speaker 1: led to its boss of News and current affairs Darren
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  Speaker 1: Wick being shown the door after a series of shocking
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  Speaker 1: allegations of sleazy behavior toward women employees of the company
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  Speaker 1: that Costello chairs. Now at least one of those women
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  Speaker 1: told Sky News Shari Markson she had complained about Wick
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  Speaker 1: to a nine board member, not Costello, but nothing was
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  Speaker 1: ever done. Public figures are often pursued by camera crews
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  Speaker 1: seeking comment on stories, and media companies rightly complain and
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  Speaker 1: get angry if one of those cameramen or reporters is
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  Speaker 1: manhandled in any way. Now, whatever way Costello tries to
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  Speaker 1: spin this confrontation, it could not come at a worse
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  Speaker 1: time for the Nine network. Their chairman's rush of blood
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  Speaker 1: just adds to the perception that nine, famously, of course,
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  Speaker 1: once run and owned by the Packer family and run
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  Speaker 1: by a series of hard drinking males, is still a
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  Speaker 1: business dominated by arrogant, overbearing men who simply bulldoze their
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  Speaker 1: way through life. Costello laughed when asked if the incident
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  Speaker 1: could put his chairmanship under threat, and responded with one word,
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  Speaker 1: what is your response to rubsh? Time will tell Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's get stuck in concerning news today for the Victorian
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  Speaker 1: Liberal Party, with new polling by the Herald Sun revealing
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  Speaker 1: Labor would win. Can you believe this a fourth consecutive
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  Speaker 1: term of government if an election was held this weekend?
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  Speaker 1: Now it is a red Bridge poll and the reason
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  Speaker 1: I say that, I'll mention it in the moment. It's
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  Speaker 1: a thousand Victorians, shows Jacina Allen, the premier. Her government
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  Speaker 1: has extended their two party preferred lead over the coalition,
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  Speaker 1: joined me out to discuss this and more as Victoria's
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  Speaker 1: Shadow police spokesman Brad Baton Brad Good to catch up
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  Speaker 1: with you again. I do mention red Bridge because it
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  Speaker 1: is run by cos Samaras, who of course spent I
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  Speaker 1: think fourteen to fifteen years as a Labor Party advisor,
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  Speaker 1: very deep inside in particular the Andrews government. Does that
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  Speaker 1: mean that some of these red Bridge polls You've got
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  Speaker 1: to be careful with the analysis.
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  Speaker 4: I think when we look at poles, Steve, we always
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  Speaker 4: have to take all of them as a bit of
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  Speaker 4: caution and we have to listen to what they're saying,
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  Speaker 4: but at the same time don't get spooked by them.
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  Speaker 4: And I haven't seen all the details into this pole,
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  Speaker 4: but what I have read so far is it was
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  Speaker 4: a poll that was taken for a thousand people between
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  Speaker 4: February and May, and I think this sentiment has changed
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  Speaker 4: dramatically around that May budget and the impacts of how
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  Speaker 4: that's going to affect people at home. So my current
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  Speaker 4: view of at the moment whilst we should be and
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  Speaker 4: always will listen to what poles are saying and the
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  Speaker 4: messages we're getting to ensure that we are on the
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  Speaker 4: right path. But at the end of the day, our
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  Speaker 4: role Steve is to hold the government to account as
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  Speaker 4: a priority, and number two develop policies so people can
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  Speaker 4: have faith that if they do want to change their vote,
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  Speaker 4: that the Victorian Liberal Party is the place to go.
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  Speaker 1: For the sake of the exercise, let's say the poll's right.
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  Speaker 1: I still can't understand, and you know, I talk to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people. I don't have too many people
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  Speaker 1: coming up to me saying I can't wait to vote
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  Speaker 1: labor back in. You look at the state of the economy,
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  Speaker 1: you look at the major infrastructure projects billions of dollars
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  Speaker 1: over budget and they're late. You've got the debt, You've
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  Speaker 1: got the land tax issue. You've got people selling up
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  Speaker 1: investment properties and moving into state You've got businesses collapsing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean this beggars belief that the wider Victorian community
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  Speaker 1: would vote Labor back in. I mean, they may not
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  Speaker 1: like you guys, but and they may have nowhere else
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  Speaker 1: to park their vote. But that's not the sentiment I hear.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and see, I'm not asking him to park their
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  Speaker 4: vote with us. I pass him to put confidence in
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  Speaker 4: the Victorian Liberal Party. I think we've got some very
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  Speaker 4: good policies moving forward. We're going to be looking at
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  Speaker 4: obviously land tax and how that impacts people, particularly a renters.
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  Speaker 4: One of the things that comes through my office, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm in one of the growth corridors, as you know,
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  Speaker 4: is the rental crisis. People are struggling to not only
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  Speaker 4: find a rental property, but the prices are increasing at
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  Speaker 4: a rate that is untenable and therefore people are struggling
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  Speaker 4: just to keep a roof over their heads. Electricity bills,
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  Speaker 4: the risk of gas here in Victoria, the need for
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  Speaker 4: public transport out to growth corridors rather than everything invested
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  Speaker 4: into the suburban rail loop, which the Labor Party want
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  Speaker 4: to do. The reality is there is an alternative out there,
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  Speaker 4: and I think we'll put forward many policies that Victorians
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  Speaker 4: will be able to have faith and trust in. And
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  Speaker 4: I've got confidence that will build that up and by
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  Speaker 4: the time we get to November twenty six, we'll be
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  Speaker 4: in a really strong position to have a real red
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  Speaker 4: hot go At the end of the day, it's not
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  Speaker 4: just about winning, it's about returning good government to Victoria
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  Speaker 4: that's honest, open and transparent, with policies to deliver for everyone.
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  Speaker 4: I'm confident we can do it.
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  Speaker 1: If you can give me an example of that rental
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  Speaker 1: pressure in your area.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're starting to see down our way, Steve, families
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  Speaker 4: that are coming up with rent which has gone up
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  Speaker 4: from the four hundred fourth and four hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 4: three areas of Casey and now you're looking at a
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  Speaker 4: cheap price of five point fifty to six hundred. These
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  Speaker 4: prices are unaffordable for many people. That means, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you're already working one or two jobs, kids at school.
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  Speaker 4: Challenges with the families down here, and the challenge we've
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  Speaker 4: got right now is land tax bills have come out.
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  Speaker 4: That's impacted on those costs because it means that the
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  Speaker 4: landlords are going to put the prices up because they're
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  Speaker 4: not making money with already interest rate rises, the costs
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  Speaker 4: to run over investment property these days, it's put a
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  Speaker 4: massive impact on it and that's increasing those prices. So
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  Speaker 4: if the government wants to be serious, it's not just
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  Speaker 4: about public housing, it's about ensuring the private market can
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  Speaker 4: have faith in their investments in Victoria. At the moment
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  Speaker 4: they don't. But if we encourage them to come back,
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  Speaker 4: I guarantee you prices will not only stabilize, but probably
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  Speaker 4: go down in the rental market.
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  Speaker 1: To your shadow portfolio. There was an internal poll this
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  Speaker 1: week that showed public confidence of Victoria Police is at
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  Speaker 1: its lowest level since records began. We had for my
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  Speaker 1: police Commissioner Kell Glare, who I know you do and
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  Speaker 1: I have great respect for. He put the blame on
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  Speaker 1: the state straconian pandemic lockdown. Are you surprised public satisfaction
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  Speaker 1: and confidence and the police forces dropped to those sorts
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  Speaker 1: of levels.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I'm not surprised, Steve. I know Victoria police
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  Speaker 4: go out there and they do a wonderful job, and
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  Speaker 4: I was out with a few again in the last week.
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  Speaker 4: They work really hard to serve the community. But during
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  Speaker 4: that COVID period, they were forced to do things like
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  Speaker 4: the ring of steel, stop people coming back to their state,
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  Speaker 4: arresting people for using a skate park, particularly young people,
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  Speaker 4: stop people having a coffee in a park with their friends,
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  Speaker 4: keeping people within a draconian level of five kilometers of
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  Speaker 4: their home for exercise. These are things that police didn't
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  Speaker 4: sign up to do, and the impact of that is
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  Speaker 4: people have lost confidence within them because the policies of
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  Speaker 4: the time meant that the Victoria Police had to enforce
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  Speaker 4: laws when it came to people protesting in relation to
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  Speaker 4: the COVID restrictions. But at the same time, there was
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  Speaker 4: other protests out there that effective of the government turned
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  Speaker 4: a blind eye to, and therefore police weren't going to
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  Speaker 4: react on those.
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  Speaker 1: This has impact on the confidence.
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  Speaker 4: We need to make sure we've got policies in place
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  Speaker 4: to build that confidence back in police. It is absolutely
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  Speaker 4: paramount to how we maintain order in our communities. It
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  Speaker 4: starts with respect for Victoria Police. I'll be dead set
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  Speaker 4: committed to making sure we have faith in our police
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  Speaker 4: officers and the community joins me in that confidence.
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  Speaker 1: I did a long interview with Shane Patton, the Commissioner,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks back and it pretty clear that
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  Speaker 1: there were things that happened during COVID that he would
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  Speaker 1: rather he hadn't had to do.
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  Speaker 4: It's one hundred percent. I read your article in the
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  Speaker 4: Herald Sun. It was an actually really good interview into
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  Speaker 4: the in depth insights of a chief commissioner who I
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  Speaker 4: know that you're said in the past, and it's been
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  Speaker 4: out quite public that was too close to the government.
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  Speaker 4: But when you saw that interview, you actually saw that
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  Speaker 4: he wasn't comfortable delivering some of those things that we
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  Speaker 4: had to do around COVID, And even recently he's come
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  Speaker 4: out against what the government was saying with the nine
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  Speaker 4: hour fortnights. He came out saying it was going to
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  Speaker 4: cost three point eight billion dollars. With the EBA agreement
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  Speaker 4: that's gone through for the Victoria Police, he had concerns
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  Speaker 4: around community safety and yet it's gone through.
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  Speaker 5: So the question I have to.
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  Speaker 4: Ask now is is it still going to cost three
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  Speaker 4: point eight billion dollars or is community safety going to
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  Speaker 4: be at risk? And it's now up to Shane Patten
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  Speaker 4: to come out in his role of the priority of
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  Speaker 4: the leadership of the Victoria Police and explain that to
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  Speaker 4: the community.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting to see where that goes. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: I've got Mark Knight on the program later, as I
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  Speaker 1: do every couple of weeks. If you look over your
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  Speaker 1: left shoulder, that Geelong Premier's poster there takes pride to
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  Speaker 1: place in your office by the look, Brad.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah it does.
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  Speaker 4: I've come a madge along supporter, Steve, have been for
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  Speaker 4: a long time. And if you do running to Mark Knight,
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  Speaker 4: I've been waiting to get my ugly face. I want
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  Speaker 4: to see what he does with it. If it's a
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  Speaker 4: big nose, big ears, big eyebrows, I haven't quite seen
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  Speaker 4: it yet, but I'd love to see one of my
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  Speaker 4: pictures from Mark Knight.
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  Speaker 1: I'll get it. I'll see what I can organize, Brad.
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  Speaker 1: Brad Matton, thank you very much for your time tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Steve. Now I'm going to introduce you to the
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  Speaker 1: Brothers for Life Gang, although you don't want to come
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  Speaker 1: across them now. The Brothers for Life Gang I was
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  Speaker 1: a Middle Eastern crime gang behind a spate of violent
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  Speaker 1: attacks and shootings and it was then declared dead by
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  Speaker 1: the New South Wales Police. I remember when they first
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  Speaker 1: bobbed up in Sydney, a nasty bunch of people. Most
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  Speaker 1: of its members were either convicted or then killed, and
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  Speaker 1: now an ex bikey turned boxer who's got a history
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  Speaker 1: of himself knee capping and shooting its own members, has
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  Speaker 1: ignited the gang's revival through a series of twists and turns.
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  Speaker 1: This gang has now threatened to make its way down
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  Speaker 1: to Melbourne to discuss this and pleased to have back
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  Speaker 1: our Friday regular Crime editor Mark Murray. Mark concerning news
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  Speaker 1: for Victorians. Let's go back though, when this crowd first
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  Speaker 1: bobbed up. Am I right to remember? They didn't even
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  Speaker 1: have motorcycles that they were getting around places like King's
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  Speaker 1: Cross in Range Rows with blacked out windows.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they were not bikes.
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  Speaker 6: Are actually what we called it the first of the
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  Speaker 6: most violent street gangs, again operating mainly in the Southwest,
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  Speaker 6: but they'd come into town and create havoc, going to nightclubs.
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  Speaker 5: To try and throw their weight around.
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  Speaker 6: They became a major major problem over on and off
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  Speaker 6: over about two decades before police really kind of smashed
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  Speaker 6: them up. But they all started with Basm Hamsey who's
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  Speaker 6: now in long sorry in super max and will be
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  Speaker 6: there for a long time. And he was the founder
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  Speaker 6: and he was controlling, controlling for a long time. But
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  Speaker 6: there was so much blood on Sydney streets that very
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  Speaker 6: almost equivalent to what we're seeing in the last two
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  Speaker 6: years here.
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  Speaker 1: So they were one of the first Middle Eastern crime gangs,
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  Speaker 1: I suppose, would that be a fair way to describe.
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  Speaker 6: There were still quite a few around, but they're the
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  Speaker 6: ones that became quite open.
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  Speaker 5: You know, they had their T shirts and they had
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  Speaker 5: brothers for.
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  Speaker 6: Life, and you know, they were extorting people their own
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  Speaker 6: community is what a lot of people got really upset about.
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  Speaker 6: And then they'd have internal wars and they were starting
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  Speaker 6: to start shooting each other public in shootings in the street,
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  Speaker 6: very very very violent. But yeah, they were probably the
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  Speaker 6: ones that became the most prominent, and that's when we
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  Speaker 6: had a major problem.
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  Speaker 5: With Middle Eastern organized crime gangs.
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  Speaker 6: And from there police then got to handle and realize
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  Speaker 6: that there were actually a whole lot of other offshoots.
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  Speaker 6: But as you said, you know, one of these people
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  Speaker 6: now that you're saying it could end up linking up
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  Speaker 6: with some people in Melbourne is Hummed little Crazy Hamsey.
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  Speaker 6: Now he was one of the one of the main
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  Speaker 6: culprits driving all the bloodshed here in Sydney a decade
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  Speaker 6: ago and he's now out of jail.
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  Speaker 1: What were they making their money out of? What was
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  Speaker 1: what crime? Were they involved in? Drugs?
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  Speaker 6: I guess mainly drugs, but they did they'd extort little shopkeepers.
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  Speaker 5: They were just ruthless.
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  Speaker 6: But drugs, as always is the big earner for these
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  Speaker 6: crime groups and they were making a lot.
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  Speaker 5: But they are also guns for hire.
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  Speaker 6: Far Hard Kwami who became one of the members who
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  Speaker 6: was running the Blacktown chapter, he eventually went to jail
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  Speaker 6: for killing another building operator called Joe and Toon and
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  Speaker 6: that was a murder for hire. So they also they
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  Speaker 6: hired themselves out to break legs or even worse.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at the scene today and you know
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  Speaker 1: it better than anyone else, I mean, what's the dominant
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  Speaker 1: violent gang that still rules Sydney? And likewise, does Melbourne
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  Speaker 1: have the same gang problem.
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  Speaker 6: We've got the Alamedin and family here are so powerful,
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  Speaker 6: and then we have our bike you know, the common Turra.
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  Speaker 6: But they've linked up together. I think the problem for
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  Speaker 6: Melbourne is going to be that Sydney has cleaned up
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  Speaker 6: so many of these gangsters. New South Wales Police have
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  Speaker 6: done it a really good job. They've locked up a
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  Speaker 6: lot of people or the others have actually fled and
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  Speaker 6: they've gone to Melbourne.
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  Speaker 5: Quite a few of the common Turro hierarchy have gone
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  Speaker 5: down there.
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  Speaker 6: I know some of the other Middle Eastern organized crime
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  Speaker 6: gangs have gone to Melbourne. So that's where I think
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  Speaker 6: the problem could be because they just know here we
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  Speaker 6: have these such strong consorting laws, such a strong police force.
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  Speaker 5: As just they.
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  Speaker 6: Harass them and they make no excuses for really, you know,
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  Speaker 6: they push the boundaries and sometimes they end up in
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  Speaker 6: a bit of strife because these guys try and take
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  Speaker 6: them to court all the time. But a lot of
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  Speaker 6: them have left town and unfortunately the town that they've
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  Speaker 6: gone to is Melbourne.
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  Speaker 1: Is that saying perhaps that the Victorian Police force haven't
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  Speaker 1: got a handle on how to deal with these guys.
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  Speaker 1: Are surely they'd be talking to their New South Wales counterparts,
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't they.
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  Speaker 6: Well, they're doing that a lot now lately, so I
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: think you'll find that. I know that senior police here
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: said they have been contacted by Victorian police.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: They share intelligence and tactics.
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: So I'd like to think that Victorian police and if
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: your guys have. You've had some pretty big wars down there,
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: so you're not unused to having violent criminals running around
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: the streets. But it's these guys are a different type,
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: you know, and different tactics.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: Maybe you have to have to be used and our
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: guys it took them a.
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: While, but they've got to handle on it. It'll rear
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: up again, without doubt. You can never stop these guys.
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: But Victorian police could take a leaf out of a
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: few things that are been own on in Sydney in
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: the last two to three years after the initial bloodshed.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: You got some you got your hands on some footage
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: during the Daily Telegraph this week, very very confronting footage
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: of a Sydney hitman, Hamad Assad Now he was the
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: footage shows him being killed or being assassinated. That was
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: eight years ago after the man known as the Executioner
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: was himself executed. Take us through what this shows. Really
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: shocking footage added it surface.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: Well, it's the person who's killed, was the person called
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: the executioner. It he was bragging about killing a person
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: called Wally.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: I met a mister big.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: Now this footage is just it's shocking. What to put
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: in context though the executioner Ahmed Hassad was under surveillance
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: and there was a police car not far outside that
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: house when in twelve to fifteen seconds a car pulls
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: up onto the front lawn while he getting it into
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: his own grage, two guys come out at at point
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: blank grage.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: You see them open fire and kill him. It is brutal.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: It's the most brutal footage I've I've ever seen, and
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: taken by his own cameras. And you know, we thought
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: long and hard about showing this, but I know senior police,
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: I said, well it cause a problem. They went, you
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: know what, sometimes showing people out there and especially young.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Guys, this is how you're going to end up. You
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: want to play the game.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: This guy had gone around bragging about people that he
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: killed when he hadn't even killed them.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: And that's that's the.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: End result, him getting two men just emptying two clips
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: of guns into him.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: And it was a horrible way to die.
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: And there was a young relative not far away at
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: a family home, you.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Know, incredibly confronting. Just an update for you. Last time
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: we spoke, i'd interviewed the Victorian Police Commissioner Shane Patton.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: We're talking about the tobacco stores, and they explained to
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: me why there's so much money in this a tobacco industry,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: and they seem to have cleaned it up. And they
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: were actually bragging a few weeks ago that they wrote
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: that they got on top of it. We'll mark an
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: update for you. Three not one, not two. Three tobacco
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: stores have been firebombed in Melbourne in the last forty
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: eight hours, including one in the street about two hundred
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: meters from where I live in Melbourne. So the tobacco
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: wars are not over.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I read that piece that you did, and
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: I read it with a lot of interest. And yeah,
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: our guys are very quick never to say we won,
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: and see what happens if you do, you know, because
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: these guys just keep rolling on. And that's a prime example,
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: you know, three and forty eight hours.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: That's terrifying.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so much money and at Mark Murray as usual.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Great to catch up mate, I'll see you in the
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Telegraph during.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: The week thanks to lot to dove.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Isn't he great? Mark Murray? Great to have him as
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: a Friday regular with us coming up after the break.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Queensland liberals have bent the knee to labor as David
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Chris a fully willfully mist to the government's budget and
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: my Friday regular Campbell Newman is fired up about this.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: You'll join me next, plus Anthony Albanez. He's again out
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: there today demonizing nuclear energy. William shackle joins me after
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the break. Welcome back to Steve Price on Friday night.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Now we've seen the Prime Minister ramp up his nuclear
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: scare campaign over the past couple of weeks. He was
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: at it again today. He was at the Sky News
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the Australian Economic Outlook lunch. Let's have a look at
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: what he had to say.
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: We don't have a comparative advantage when it comes to
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: nuclear We have a disadvantage because we don't have an
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: industry and it would be more than a decade and
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: a half before anything could happen. And in the meantime,
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: what do you do to plug the energy gas when
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: coal fire power stations closed?
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: He just doesn't get it. He doesn't get that you
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: need a combination of all of the above. His speech
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: was filled with the same baseless him at Australia can't
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: afford to waste fifteen years down a rabbit hole. What
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: about the canyon that he's sending us down with that
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: zel at Chris Bowen with renewable energy that's just not
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: going to be ready in time. Andrew Clenell did a
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: great job there today trying to get some sensible answers
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: out of him. It simply didn't happen. He talks of
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: wasted years, but he and Bowen have already wasted time
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and more importantly, billions of your taxpayer dollars on a
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: renewable energy plan that no country in the world the
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: size of Australia has ever successfully implemented and it's not
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: being proven to work. Meanwhile, he dismisses nuclear power, which
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: is a proven sustainable energy source utilized by some of
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the world's largest economies. I told you on the Credline
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: during the week that Italy and Germany they take power
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: out of France's generated by nuclear energy. To catch up
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and talk more about this, let's bring in nuclear for Australia.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Founder the great William shackle who we've spoken about to
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: a number of times. Thanks for joining us again, William.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: What do you make of the recent rhetoric of the
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Prime Minister.
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: Well, it's just simply not true in terms of the
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: Prime Minister's comments. Not only is the fact that Australia
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: does have a nuclear industry. We've got a research reactor
• 23:10
  Speaker 8: thirty kilometers from the Sydney CBD which was built in
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: nine years. And in addition to that, he's just flat
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: out wrong when it comes to Australia not having advantage
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: in nuclear We have the largest uranium.
• 23:21
  Speaker 9: Reserves in the world.
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: What I would say more generally is it's been I've
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: been really concerned from this nuclear fear campaign that the
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: Prime Minister has backed. There've been pictures floating around of
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: AI generated pictures of fishermen pulling out three eyed fish
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: from next to nuclear reactor. There've been images and advertisements
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: of Labor Party has been running where they've got big
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: nuclear reactors behind the Sydney Opera House and on the
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: shores of Bondo Beach. And all this does is in
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: still fear in the community and it's not based on facts.
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: The Prime Minister needs to listen to the science and
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: listen to the majority of Australians and start thinking about
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: lifting the band on nuclear power.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I've really seen senior politicians. I mean, they can disagree
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: on policy and they might have an argument about it.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: But this is so important to keep the lights on
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: in Australia that young people like you, old blokes like
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: me would like to see both sides get together and say, Okay,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: yes we're going to need some solar, and yes we're
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: going to need some wind power. We might have to
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: keep some coal going for a while, and gas is important.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Let's put nuclear into the mix and then we've got
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the advantage that not the rest of the world does have.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: We'll have nuclear energy, gas power, and we've got plenty
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: of wind and some we can have the whole lot.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Why would you shut your eyes to this.
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: We need to have all options on the table, and currently,
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: because of a ninety Zerra ban that our politicians are
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: still defending, we're not able to have that. When you
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: look around the world, thirty two countries have the option
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: of nuclear power and a further fifty are considering it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: On top of that, you even look at the US
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: where the Democrat g secretary there just opened a new
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: nuclear power plant at Vogel and she said that the
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: US is planning to build two hundred new nuclear power plants.
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: So what is it in Australia where we can't even
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: have a conversation about nuclear power. We can't even consider
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: lifting the prohibition on nuclear power, which is unprecedented. We're
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: the only member of the G twenty with a ban
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: on nuclear power. So if we're serious about addressing climate change,
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: if we're serious about improving energy security, and if we're
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: serious about long energy bills, it only makes sense to
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: have the option of nuclear power in our mix.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Well, so many of the media let him get away
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: with saying things like, oh, well, small module reactors, they
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: don't work.
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: Well, it's that's simply not true. China and Russia both
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: have small module reactors and they're also you could technically
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: consider the fact that the nuclear submarines which operate around
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: the world, they are also classified as small reactors. I
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: think what's really concerning is, you know, I went to
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: school today, Steve, and if I lied in a a
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: assignment or didn't reference as statistic, I would be suspended.
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: But our politicians aren't held to the same standards. They
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: are allowed to lie, and they have a platform to
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: lie and spread misinformation about nuclear power which they know
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: is wrong, which they know has not been done in
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: consultation with the nuclear experts. And I think it has
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: a grave precedent for this country. Not only does it
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: restrict us from accessing nuclear power, but it undermines trust
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: in Australia's nuclear power, nuclear science capabilities with ANSTO, and
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: our nuclear medicine capability. But also I think it undermines
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: trust potentially in the Orcist submarine announcement. And to think
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: about what our partners, the UK and US must be
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: thinking seeing that, you know, politicians are literally sharing images
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: from The Simpsons when communicating around nuclear science. I think
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: it's gravely concerning.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Just finally, how's the petition going?
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: Well, it's going really well. We're close to forty thousand
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: signatures on our petitions, so i'd encourage your viewers to
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: sign it at Nuclear Australia dot com if they want
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: to help us lift the bands on nuclear power.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: William Shackle, always a pleasure. Thank you very much for
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: joining us on Friday night. The highly contentious ministerial Direction
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: ninety nine. Now I couldn't believe the media conference I
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: watched this morning with Giles, the Minister, who is just
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: hopeless it's going to be revoked on June twenty one.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Why you've got to wake to June twenty one I
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: don't really know, replaced by Direction one ten, which leads
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: me to ask what happened to one hundred and to
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: one hundred and nine. The Minister Andrew Giles announced all
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: of this this morning. He was pathetic. Have a look,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: surely the fact that you're now rewriting this direction issuing
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: a new one admits that that direction.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Ninety nine was wrong.
• 27:44
  Speaker 10: What I'm saying here is that we need to give
• 27:47
  Speaker 10: a very clear signal to decision makers that decision should
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: be made based on common sense and the protection of
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: the Australian community.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: That is what this direction is about.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Why can't you just admit that the old direction was
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: a mistake or you a pauly breathed why can't you
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: just say that.
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: Well, I'm saying that I'm taking responsibility for putting in
• 28:05
  Speaker 10: place a direction that ken sends a very clear signal
• 28:08
  Speaker 10: to decision makers and to the Australian community about how
• 28:12
  Speaker 10: they should go about making these visa conditions.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: God help us. No apology, no remorse, no accountability for
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the implications of this. When will the government get responsible,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: get rid of him and put someone else in there
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: to clean up the mess? Joining me now with Morris
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: format Queensland Premier Campbell Newman. I don't know if you
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: saw that media conference you've conducted plenty yourself. That was
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: just impossibly bad.
• 28:42
  Speaker 11: Deer in the headlights, sir Steve, of course. And look
• 28:47
  Speaker 11: it's just turned into a comic sort of scene. I
• 28:50
  Speaker 11: mean we've had Direction ninety nine. Well, he's clearly the
• 28:53
  Speaker 11: bumbling age in eighty six, isn't he?
• 28:55
  Speaker 12: You know now?
• 28:58
  Speaker 11: I mean he should have gone some time ago. This
• 29:02
  Speaker 11: just underlines that he did get it wrong, and he
• 29:05
  Speaker 11: got it wrong because he cannot, like so many in
• 29:08
  Speaker 11: the Albanese government, extract himself from being the activist.
• 29:12
  Speaker 12: He was an activist.
• 29:13
  Speaker 11: Lawyer who felt that anybody should get into this country,
• 29:17
  Speaker 11: going back to the Tampa period, you know, and he
• 29:21
  Speaker 11: just but he's got into government controls, you know, the
• 29:25
  Speaker 11: power leavers in front of him.
• 29:27
  Speaker 12: He's immediately gone, what whoopee.
• 29:29
  Speaker 11: I can sort of strike a blow for the things
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: I used to sort of champion for from outside the system.
• 29:35
  Speaker 11: And that's why this has happened, you know, it is
• 29:38
  Speaker 11: that that is why it's happened, and this is a
• 29:41
  Speaker 11: proof of that today.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: That's a great point. I don't know if you've ever
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: in a media interview said something and then immediately thought
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: to yourself, Joe, I wish I hadn't said that. But
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: he was on Sky last week, and you know, he
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: was asked a question about how these visa holders are
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: being monitored, and he said, oh, we've got drones in
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the air. It turns out they're no drunes, and then
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: he blamed his department.
• 30:08
  Speaker 11: Well, well, well, just as to dissect that, because you know,
• 30:11
  Speaker 11: if he has no confidence in the secretary of the department, then.
• 30:16
  Speaker 12: He needs to actually have her removed.
• 30:19
  Speaker 11: Now, you know, it's either either he's to blame or
• 30:24
  Speaker 11: the secretary is not briefing him and appropriately following his directions.
• 30:29
  Speaker 11: He cannot have it both ways, So either he goes
• 30:32
  Speaker 11: or exercises leadership and gets rid of her. Obviously, what
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: I would believe with that would be a travesty. Probably
• 30:39
  Speaker 11: there'd be some sort of wrongful dismissal case lodged against it,
• 30:42
  Speaker 11: of course, because I think the public servants know exactly
• 30:46
  Speaker 11: what they've been doing, and they have made sure that
• 30:48
  Speaker 11: they've covered well, not to suggest they've done thing wrong,
• 30:53
  Speaker 11: but they have certainly covered everything they've done with appropriate
• 30:56
  Speaker 11: piles of paper to show the minister that he shouldn't
• 30:59
  Speaker 11: have done what he did.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Let's head into your backyard. I know you read hot
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: about this Queensland Liberal National Party leader David Chris Foley,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: who looks like probably winning the election. He's willfully committed
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to adopting Labour's budget without even knowing what is in
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: it for the entire first term of his government if
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: he's elected in October. That's one of the most extraordinary
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: political moves I've ever witnessed. What's he think he's doing? Well?
• 31:29
  Speaker 11: This is the point Steve, that I've sort of been
• 31:31
  Speaker 11: making for some time with you on this program, in
• 31:36
  Speaker 11: that we haven't seen clear policy direction from the leader
• 31:41
  Speaker 11: of the opposition, David chrisp Fawley, and so I think
• 31:43
  Speaker 11: it was on Tuesday during a press conference he, in
• 31:47
  Speaker 11: this effort to be a small target, said look, I
• 31:50
  Speaker 11: won't change anything in the budget. I'll accept it as
• 31:52
  Speaker 11: it is. So just to explain to people, government is
• 31:56
  Speaker 11: fueled by money. When you become a new government, you
• 32:00
  Speaker 11: your policies that you went to the people on you
• 32:02
  Speaker 11: take them to the public service. They then create programs
• 32:06
  Speaker 11: and projects which are then funded through your budget.
• 32:10
  Speaker 12: For implementation, they then implement it.
• 32:12
  Speaker 11: So government is fueled by money and policy turns into
• 32:16
  Speaker 11: outcomes for the community through money. If you adopt the
• 32:20
  Speaker 11: Labor Party's budget, you then are essentially saying we agree
• 32:24
  Speaker 11: with their agenda, and quite rightfully, Cameron Dick, the state's treasurer,
• 32:28
  Speaker 11: in the Caurier Mile it was quoted as saying, well,
• 32:31
  Speaker 11: what's Chris of Foley been winging about? If he's going
• 32:34
  Speaker 11: to adopt our budget. He has adopted their policy position
• 32:39
  Speaker 11: and it is wrong.
• 32:40
  Speaker 12: It is shameful, It is dishonest.
• 32:43
  Speaker 11: You know, because either he believes what he said, in
• 32:46
  Speaker 11: which case he's not fit to lead the LNP, or
• 32:49
  Speaker 11: if he's really saying it, but he's going to overturn
• 32:52
  Speaker 11: it straight away. Well, now that's really really shonky because
• 32:57
  Speaker 11: he doesn't have a mandate then to actually make change.
• 33:00
  Speaker 12: I mean, what would a Chris of Fooley government do.
• 33:02
  Speaker 11: I was on the ABC radio in the last thirty
• 33:06
  Speaker 11: six hours. They asked me that they asked.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Me who he was.
• 33:09
  Speaker 11: I said, I didn't know he was a minister in
• 33:12
  Speaker 11: my government. And I can't tell you all the viewers
• 33:15
  Speaker 11: this evening what he will do as premiere. That is
• 33:20
  Speaker 11: really terrible. And I guess my final point is he
• 33:22
  Speaker 11: needs to look in the mirror and decide whether he
• 33:25
  Speaker 11: wants to.
• 33:25
  Speaker 12: Do this job.
• 33:27
  Speaker 11: He needs to decide where he thinks he's up to
• 33:29
  Speaker 11: this job, because Queensland's deserve a vision, a plan and
• 33:33
  Speaker 11: clear policies to get this state out of the message here.
• 33:37
  Speaker 11: That's the fact.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. I just wonder whether he's worried
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: about being wedged on those two key promises that the
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Miles has made, and that's cheaper electricity and cheaper public
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: transport costs. Is that what he's doing or I don't
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: quite get it. But if he wanted to do that,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: he could just say, look, well, if we get elected,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I don't mind the public transport policy and I don't
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: mind giving cheaper electricity, but to embrace the whole budget
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: is complete political madness.
• 34:11
  Speaker 11: It is political madness, and again it's insincere. This was
• 34:16
  Speaker 11: what happens when you don't actually have a clear agenda,
• 34:19
  Speaker 11: that you haven't put.
• 34:19
  Speaker 12: Enough detail or work into it. And that's the problem.
• 34:23
  Speaker 11: Really, what it is made is he's trying to create
• 34:26
  Speaker 11: a thousand mile gap between himself and yours truly, and
• 34:32
  Speaker 11: he doesn't want to be accused of someone who's going
• 34:34
  Speaker 11: to make cuts or whatever, so instead he embraces a
• 34:37
  Speaker 11: policy agenda by Labor which will see one hundred and
• 34:40
  Speaker 11: eighty eight billion dollars worth of debt going up forty
• 34:43
  Speaker 11: one billion.
• 34:43
  Speaker 12: Dollars in the next four years alone, and an interest bill.
• 34:46
  Speaker 11: Try this, Steve of just under a billion dollars nine
• 34:49
  Speaker 11: hundred and twenty thousand dollars an hour in interest costs
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  Speaker 11: on the debt of Queensland in only four years.
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  Speaker 12: Time.
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  Speaker 1: Great to catch up state of origin one up going
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: to be two nil.
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  Speaker 12: I think they're pretty strong mate.
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  Speaker 11: I think that's where it's going and we shall see.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I think you're right mcg for the next game cam
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: when newman. All is great to catch up with you
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: on a Friday. We'll talk to you soon. Coming up
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  Speaker 1: next our Friday creative whiz Mark Night's here with his
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: brilliant cartoons of the week. Can't wait, Welcome back, you're
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: watching Friday Nights with Steve Price. Great to be with you. Well,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: spent another huge week of news and a big story
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: broke yesterday when we're on air, involving Peter Castello. We
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: talked about at the top of the show. We need
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: to see what Australia's favorite cartoon is. Mark Knight's whipped
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: up for us this time. Mark Knight joins me in
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the studio. You had to do some late work I did.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I wrote a piece about Peter Castello that's in the
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Herald Sun. Right now, let's have a look at the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: cartoon that you've managed to stick up about the confrontation
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: at Camera Airport. Now you've got him in an Essendon jump.
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  Speaker 13: The bump is back in politics, Steve, And you know
• 36:06
  Speaker 13: we just saw that he's a big man Costell.
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  Speaker 9: Alright, he is a big lumpy, he's a big fellow
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  Speaker 9: and he's someone in.
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  Speaker 1: The airport described him as a sumo wrestler.
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  Speaker 9: He's put on weight, has he?
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  Speaker 14: Well?
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  Speaker 13: I think this reporter didn't stand a chance when Peter
• 36:19
  Speaker 13: put the shoulder in him. He went straight down. But
• 36:22
  Speaker 13: as we know, we're trying to clean up politics and
• 36:25
  Speaker 13: football and I think he'll get five weeks at least.
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  Speaker 1: So what's the logo? Who's sponsoring him in that age
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: direction ninety nine? Now this is a hard political issue.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: This must not be an easy cartoon to come up with.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: What have you done with Andrew Joles and Direction ninety nine.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: That's ever look we've been cartoon. Oh I love that
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  Speaker 1: he's in jail.
• 36:48
  Speaker 13: Well, you know it dropped this week that a recipient
• 36:52
  Speaker 13: of Directive ninety nine was one of Tony Mockbell's mate
• 36:55
  Speaker 13: who he's not going to be remember drawing him with
• 36:59
  Speaker 13: the wig. Well, I think, you know, as I said
• 37:02
  Speaker 13: in the cartoon, I think the wig is probably a
• 37:04
  Speaker 13: more successful device of deception than Directive ninety nine. I
• 37:09
  Speaker 13: think it's the second run, second place.
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  Speaker 1: To Andrews in there with our mate mock Brobers. Now,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Victorian Gas. You're going to be known this year for
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: two cartoons, two cartoon themes I think really one the
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Underground Tunnel into the black Hole. That's a Warpley Award
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  Speaker 1: winning cartoon budget black Hole Boring missione budget black Hole
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Boring Machine. And the other one is gas because our
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: great energy minister, Lily di Ambrosio with a great name
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  Speaker 1: that is, let's have a look at what you've done here.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: You've got a gas. Where's Lily, she's in the green jacket.
• 37:43
  Speaker 9: Lily's we had well, she told us last week we
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: had no gas. This week we have gas. So she's
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: trying to turn it on.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that the thing about.
• 37:50
  Speaker 13: Gas is not finding it getting out of the ground.
• 37:53
  Speaker 13: The tough part is getting it through the Victorian political system.
• 37:56
  Speaker 13: And look, you've got to little valves. You've got to
• 37:58
  Speaker 13: get it through the senter valve. And now you've got
• 38:01
  Speaker 13: to get it through Samantha Ratnam, the leader of Greens,
• 38:04
  Speaker 13: because she says no, she's just going to turn herself off.
• 38:07
  Speaker 9: So if we actually any get any of this gas
• 38:09
  Speaker 9: from the Otway basin, I'll be surprised.
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  Speaker 1: Lily looks great in that green jacket. I like the
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: colored green jacket. You just put that in very subtle.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Victoria's Big Build is back in cartooning territory as well. Yes,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: what's happened with the Big Build this week? What did
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: you draw on?
• 38:24
  Speaker 9: Well, the Big Bill?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: He go, there's the boring machine. It's the boring machine.
• 38:28
  Speaker 13: And if you look at the way we write build,
• 38:30
  Speaker 13: if you just scratch off.
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: A little bit of it, it suddenly becomes bill. So it's
• 38:34
  Speaker 9: actually the big Bill that we're building. What are we
• 38:38
  Speaker 9: up to now, Steve? What's the debt.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Twenty gaze so high? Twenty six billion or something millions
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: and millions of dollars interest.
• 38:46
  Speaker 13: Today we're still yes, we're tunneling away deeper and deeper
• 38:49
  Speaker 13: and deeper, and we're getting deeper and deeper into that
• 38:52
  Speaker 13: debt tunnel and it's going to keep boring along. And
• 38:54
  Speaker 13: the opinion pulse today said we'd vote the Labor government
• 38:57
  Speaker 13: backing in Victoria.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: I'm no figure.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I've not met anyone who's actually said that. John Blackman,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: well known for hey, Hey, it's Saturday in particular and
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: his stick with Dicky Knee, and he's also well known
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: on radio, was on three out W Breakfast when I
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: actually started on radio. So tell us what you've drawn.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I love the couch by the way, tell us what
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: you've got here.
• 39:19
  Speaker 13: Well, I thought, you know, Dicky Knee should have the
• 39:21
  Speaker 13: last word on black as passing.
• 39:24
  Speaker 9: And you know, I've put them in in that great
• 39:27
  Speaker 9: era of Hey.
• 39:28
  Speaker 14: Fay, Hey Friday, Friday houches from theies on the nineties,
• 39:33
  Speaker 14: and you know, we would sit there and we watch
• 39:35
  Speaker 14: this show and John Blackman's comments were just what, you know,
• 39:39
  Speaker 14: what we're all thinking.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I'm about the same age. You'd watch it and then
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: go out on Saturday night you would stay and watch
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: it for me, I think six thirty to seventh thirty
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: or whenever it was.
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: On by eight o'clock.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Eight, So martnight. It was great to see you mate.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for coming in Mark's cartoons in
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: the Herald Sun tomorrow and again all next week. Coming
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: up next the panel, it joins me to discuss the
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: unfolding drama at the nine network and the fallout from
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Peter Costello's airport scuffle. Whilst we're in danger of erasing
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: our history. Another Captain Cook monument. It's on the chopping block.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: That's up next. Welcome back. Well. I mentioned the Peter
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Costello camera airport scuffle at the top of the program.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: It's the story that just keeps on giving. There was
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: a scheduled nine Network board meeting today and we're told
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: that that was probably on the agenda. Now the chairman
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: was filmed in a clash at the Cambra Airport, as
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: we now know with journalist Liam Mendez from the Australians.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: You probably don't need it, but here's another reminder of
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: how it unfolded.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you've got to answer the questions, mister Castello, don't
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: you've just assaulted You've just assaulted me.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: He denies it, but there's clearly a dip of the
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: shoulder there. Now Peter Costello has angered by those questions.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Liam was asking Liam at every right to us and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the Nine network, of course, has been in the headlines
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: in recent weeks following the departure of the news boss
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Darren Wick, allegations surrounding his behavior to word women and
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: the alleged cover up by the Nine board. Now Peter
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Costello had a different version of the events that took
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: place at the airport. He said that he had not
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: made any contact with Liam at all. It's all very
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: interesting to chat this through and the other stories of
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: the day my panel Sky News contributor Joe Hildebrand and
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: former Liberal Party Vice president Tina McQueen. Great to see
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: you both, Joe. I'll tell you what when that happened,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: it reminded me. It took me back to the glory
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: days of remember David Ginjel and James Patam urting each
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: other on the nature strip outside James's apartment in Bondai.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Immediately thought of that.
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  Speaker 15: That's right. Maybe Peter Costell I thought Nine was getting
• 41:51
  Speaker 15: a bit soft in the way to solve its current
• 41:53
  Speaker 15: problems as to roll the sleeves up and have a
• 41:54
  Speaker 15: bit of fisticuffs. It's such a bizarre turn of events. Clearly,
• 41:59
  Speaker 15: I think think it shows Peter Costello really is starting
• 42:04
  Speaker 15: to buckle under the strain. It was entirely inappropriate. To
• 42:09
  Speaker 15: me having watched the video. There seems absolutely no doubt
• 42:11
  Speaker 15: whatsoever that some contact was made. No one suggesting that
• 42:15
  Speaker 15: he struck him, but clearly he seems to have used
• 42:19
  Speaker 15: his shoulder and just sort of pushed into him and
• 42:21
  Speaker 15: he's then fallen over backwards. I mean, at one point
• 42:24
  Speaker 15: there is literally nothing between the camera that Leam Mendez
• 42:27
  Speaker 15: is holding A's phone and Peter Costello. So clearly there's
• 42:31
  Speaker 15: some contact there unless, you know, unless he suddenly put
• 42:34
  Speaker 15: the screensaver on and that split second. It's highly inappropriate.
• 42:38
  Speaker 15: I've had some dealings with Peter Costello in the past.
• 42:40
  Speaker 15: I used to be the opinion editor at the Telegraph
• 42:42
  Speaker 15: when he was a columnist. I used to love reading
• 42:44
  Speaker 15: his columns. I learned a lot from them. This just
• 42:46
  Speaker 15: strikes me as something incredibly odd, incredibly out of character,
• 42:50
  Speaker 15: and it seems to show a sort of a man
• 42:52
  Speaker 15: on fire.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: If you like Tina, you would have had plenty to
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: do with Peter Costello, all the fundraising you've done for
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: the liberal patio over the years, and he would have
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: been a star attraction, raising plenty of money. He was
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: a great treasurer, left the country without any debt. Do
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: we cut him a bit of slack here or is
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: that behavior that shouldn't have happened.
• 43:11
  Speaker 16: No, we don't. It's a behavior that shouldn't have happened, Steve,
• 43:14
  Speaker 16: whether there's contact or no contact. Look, I think he
• 43:17
  Speaker 16: has to go, there's no question he should go. But
• 43:19
  Speaker 16: I think it also displays the type of arrogance that
• 43:22
  Speaker 16: Peter Costello has always had for a number of years.
• 43:25
  Speaker 16: I mean, he's not been cranky since he never hit
• 43:27
  Speaker 16: the top job a great treasurer, but has always been
• 43:29
  Speaker 16: frustrated he was never in the number one spot.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Steve, Well, he's never brave enough to take it on,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: never brave enough to take it on John Howard, because
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: he probably thought he was going to when they won
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: the election. He could have been in politics.
• 43:43
  Speaker 15: He might have been the PF.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Well, that's right exactly, but of course they lost the
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: election and he wasn't prepared to be Opposition leader Tina.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: This stuff with Captain Cook monuments drives me nuts. There's
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: two of them have been cut down in Melbourne, but
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: this one's on Brunie Island. Now there's been consultation from
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: the public that's favored its permanent removal comes as one
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: of those three topple Captain cook statues I mentioned in
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Melbourne is going to be reinstated, but the others will
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: never go back. I mean, this is just a pathetic
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: rewriting of our history.
• 44:15
  Speaker 16: Surely, oh, they don't do enough consultation, Steve. And it's
• 44:19
  Speaker 16: absolutely disgraceful to permanently remove this. I mean it's documented
• 44:24
  Speaker 16: in Captain Cook's diaries about there was no violence, there
• 44:27
  Speaker 16: was no exactly what he did in his visit in Tasmania.
• 44:31
  Speaker 16: It's absolutely disgraceful. It is time. It has to stop.
• 44:34
  Speaker 16: It absolutely has to stop. Everyone's sick of it. And don't,
• 44:37
  Speaker 16: as you said, try and rewrite our.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: History, Joe. I mean statues. We can't erase history, can we.
• 44:46
  Speaker 15: This is this sort of stuff is just absolutely mind
• 44:48
  Speaker 15: numbingly stupid. It's done by people who clearly have little
• 44:51
  Speaker 15: or no understanding of the actual history. It removes a
• 44:55
  Speaker 15: critical part of our history and therefore ends up whitewashing
• 44:59
  Speaker 15: the very crimes or the dark stains or whatever it
• 45:02
  Speaker 15: is that they seem so alarmed about. So they're actually
• 45:05
  Speaker 15: going through and you know, and raising these things that
• 45:08
  Speaker 15: they are attempting to highlight, and it just begs the
• 45:12
  Speaker 15: questionable where do you stop? I mean, Captain Cook was
• 45:14
  Speaker 15: a self made man. He was a self taught man
• 45:17
  Speaker 15: of science. He was a man of incredible capabilities who
• 45:20
  Speaker 15: was on his voyage to Australia largely to chart the
• 45:23
  Speaker 15: transit of Venus to get a more accurate impression of
• 45:26
  Speaker 15: the globe. It was an enlightenment figure. And again, if
• 45:29
  Speaker 15: you're going to tear down Captain Cook because of something
• 45:32
  Speaker 15: that people decades after him, did, I mean, where do
• 45:36
  Speaker 15: you stop? Do you not go to Paris because it
• 45:38
  Speaker 15: was built by Napoleon? Do not go to you know?
• 45:40
  Speaker 15: Do you tear down Oliver Cromwell and Winston Churchill outside
• 45:43
  Speaker 15: the front of the British Parliament. They are people who
• 45:45
  Speaker 15: are called for the tearing down of the statue of
• 45:48
  Speaker 15: Mahatma Gandhi because he didn't stand up enough for black
• 45:52
  Speaker 15: South Africans during his time there. You know, Abraham Lincoln, Lincoln.
• 45:56
  Speaker 15: I mean, the list could go on forever that we
• 45:58
  Speaker 15: know is left.
• 45:59
  Speaker 16: I think the Liberals have to take a stance so
• 46:01
  Speaker 16: they can't just sit back and they noncommittal. I think
• 46:03
  Speaker 16: they've really got to show they're brave and you know,
• 46:07
  Speaker 16: have a say on this and demand that's.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: That to be returned one hundred percent. Tina. I mean
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: you might remember, by the way, when I was on
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: radio in Sydney, I spent ages trying to get rid
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: of Lord Mere clover More out of that job, with
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: no success whatsoever. I rented about her day after day
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: after day. She's still there. Isn't it time we had
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: to change?
• 46:29
  Speaker 16: Oh, Steve, you were magnificent. I remember those radio days, Well,
• 46:33
  Speaker 16: you were just tremendous. Yeah, it's time for her to go.
• 46:36
  Speaker 16: She's seventy eight, she's been in public life for one
• 46:38
  Speaker 16: hundred years.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Move on.
• 46:40
  Speaker 16: She's absolutely destroyed the city of Sydney with bike lanes
• 46:43
  Speaker 16: and all sorts of crazy things.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: She's done.
• 46:45
  Speaker 16: Clover go with dignity, retire gracefully.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: You agree, Joe, Yeah, it's weird.
• 46:53
  Speaker 15: Clover More just seems to be baked into the city
• 46:55
  Speaker 15: of Sydney. You know, like negative gearing to so yes.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Say no and Linda Scott should take us or no,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: she should go and Linda Scott should take a spot.
• 47:05
  Speaker 15: Linda Scott, great, may well done.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Joe Hildebrand, Tina mcquen, great to have you on with
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: the panel. Thank you very much. That's it for me
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: for the week. I'll be back filling in for Peter
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Credit next week. Up now Prime Time with Danika to
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Giorgio