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#151 - Should Christians Always Support Israel? Tucker and Ted Cruz Clash · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  Should Christians be supporting the nation of Israel at all costs?
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  We're going to take a look at a very heated exchange between Ted Cruz and Tucker
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  Carlson over this specific topic, because you might be thinking,
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  this is not a hill to die on, but let's just see if it is. I'm going to let
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  them speak for themselves.
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  Tucker comes to the table regarding this matter, and he says,
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  why would I support Israel? Why is it biblically commanded?
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  Ted Cruz says, yes, it is. but let's just hear them out and then we'll kind
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  of, I'll just explain what I think along the way.
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  Let me tell you what. No, you said I was obsessed with Israel and you had just
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  told me that like your driving motive to get to the Senate was to defend Israel.
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  I'm like, I don't think I'm the one who's obsessed with Israel.
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  Okay, Tucker, words matter.
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  And you know that. I said I resolved to be the leading defender of Israel and
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  you said your driving motive, the reason you're in the Senate.
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  You want to be the leading defender of Israel.
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  I would think if I ran for Senate, I'd be like, there are people dying of drug
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  odies on the street. My driving motive is to fight for Texas and America and
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  to fight for jobs and to fight for the Constitution.
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  And you played a very, very careful word game of eliding. No,
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  the one who said it, not me.
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  So you still haven't asked why, but I'm going to tell you why.
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  OK, so before he gets into that, Tucker, he's a lot more passionate.
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  Ted Cruz is a lot more reserved. I would side more on this argument more with Ted Cruz.
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  But personally, I kind of like Tucker a little bit better. I've followed him
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  closer and just like, just the way that he approaches topics.
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  I, Ted Cruz, being a member of Congress, he has to, he's a politician.
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  So you have to take that into account what they're talking about.
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  Tucker is more, I got, I got to get views. I got to get eyes on me,
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  even though he, I wouldn't say he's like that personally, but just being in
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  the arena that he is and having a podcast and being on entertainment,
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  he needs to get something sparks flying.
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  And I don't think he tries to do it. I think he just naturally has it.
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  So they're coming at it. And this is like, is this an impasse?
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  Because this is going to be very eye opening. If you have not seen this,
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  what Tucker kind of he is, he seems like he's caught off guard in what Ted Cruz brings up.
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  And the reason is twofold. Number one, as a Christian, growing up in Sunday
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  school, I was taught from the Bible, those who bless Israel will be blessed
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  and those who curse Israel will be cursed.
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  And from my perspective, I want to be on the blessing side of things.
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  Of those who bless the government of Israel? Those who bless Israel is what
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  it says. It doesn't say the government of it. It says the nation of Israel.
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  So that's in the Bible. As a Christian, I believe that. Where is that?
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  I can find it to you. I don't have the scripture off the tip of mine.
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  You pull out the phone and use the Google. It's in Genesis. So you're quoting a Bible.
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  Tucker knows exactly what he's referring to. I don't think he's really thought
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  through this because I don't think a lot of Christians have thought through this,
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  of supporting Israel is not just something that people are preaching from the
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  pulpits for the most part in American Christianity.
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  A lot of theology is, it's replacement theology. The church has replaced Israel.
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  It's been 2,000 years of that. There was, God was, it was just for infancy of
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  just bringing in the Christ, revealing himself through the nation of Israel,
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  okay, now we're done with that.
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  We're ready for the new man of Christianity, and everything needs to be absorbed into Christianity.
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  Biblically, the more that I've looked into this, and I think a lot of people,
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  the more that they actually look into this, when it speaks of Israel,
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  those aren't just references to the church specifically.
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  And even that word church is a loaded term.
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  It means a better rendition of it would be the calling out, the assembly, the community of faith.
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  It's not just a church, a building, or even just Christianity.
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  It's just the called out ones. But I want to continue.
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  A Bible phrase, you don't have context for it. You don't know where in the Bible
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  it is, but that's like your theology? I'm confused.
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  What does that even mean? Tucker. So this could be me having this conversation
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  with Tucker as well. But I think that Ted Cruz is going to get him thinking.
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  And there are a lot of people on both sides of the fence because Christians
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  have not thought through this of should there should they be dying on a hill
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  of supporting for Israel?
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  And is that biblically biblically commanded? I'm a Christian.
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  I want to know what you're talking about.
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  Where does where does my support for Israel come from? Number one,
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  because biblically we are commanded to support Israel.
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  But number two, hold on, hold on. and you're a senator, and now you're throwing
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  out theology, and I am a Christian, and I am allowed to weigh in on this.
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  We are commanded as Christians to support the government of Israel?
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  We are commanded to support Israel.
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  What does that mean, Israel? We're told those who bless Israel will be blessed.
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  But hold on, define Israel. This is important. Are you kidding?
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  Heck yes, it's important. This is very important.
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  And Tucker is a true Christian. He's a true Christian. So any real Christian,
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  when they are confronted with truth and with reality, they want it.
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  And so they're going to like, if they're willing to dive in more and more,
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  and I think true Christians will dive in more and more.
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  The whole thing of, we understand that Israel from the Bible,
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  that it was promised to Abraham.
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  He says, those who bless you will be blessed. Those who curse you will be cursed.
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  And then the genealogy goes through, and then the blessing goes to Isaac and
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  then Jacob, whose name changed to Israel.
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  And then that is what the Jewish people come from.
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  So we should be, I would say, standing for Israel, whatever that means.
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  But I think the clearest representation that we have in the miraculous thing
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  that we have in this world is that the nation of Israel has been reconstituted
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  after 2000 years of being just scattered abroad.
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  It was a divine thing that God brought the nation of Israel back together,
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  and he is continuing to bring the nation of Israel back together. But I want to continue.
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  This is a majority Christian country. Define Israel.
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  Do you not know what Israel is? That would be the country you've asked like 49 questions about.
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  So that's what Genesis, that's what God is talking about. The nation of Israel, yes.
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  So is that the current borders, the current leadership? He's talking about the
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  political entity called Israel?
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  He's talking about the nation of Israel. Yeah, nations exist and he's discussing a nation.
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  A nation was the people of Israel. Is the nation God's referring to in Genesis,
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  is that the same as the country run by Benjamin Netanyahu right now? Yes, yes.
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  It is. And by the way, it's not run by Benjamin Netanyahu as a dictator.
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  It's a democratic country that elected to say that the nation of Israel that
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  we currently have, we understand it is imperfect. It is not perfect.
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  Like the nation of Israel has never been perfect, but they are the true state,
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  the true people of God, the true Jewish community that has been promised that
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  was existed in the Old Testament.
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  And now it has been brought back after the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD.
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  That was when everything got
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  scattered. And it was primarily due to their rejection of their Messiah.
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  Their Messiah has come. The more that I get into this, the more that I learn
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  about this, it does seem, I think that we should take this extremely.
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  Extremely seriously because I think of myself and I just did a podcast regarding
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  the rapture and I don't know exactly where I stand a hundred percent on that,
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  but I am leading more and more towards it and it making sense.
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  And I feel like I'm like the, you see the Mel Gibson versions of in the Patriot.
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  He's like, you know, he's like going for his country.
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  And then, and then he, in Braveheart, he's just like, you know,
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  just like, I feel like I'm kind of the, the viewpoint of the rapture almost
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  seems like it makes sense.
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  Biblically, it seems like I'm not completely there, but I think I'm going towards that direction.
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  And it only makes sense because God promises that the nation of Israel will be blessed.
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  They will be the kingdom on earth. When Jesus was going to ascend to heaven,
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  Peter said, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?
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  And Jesus said, no, no, no, let's change your mindset.
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  It's going to be a while. He didn't say no. He didn't say that's ludicrous speaking.
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  It's ludicrous thinking of Peter.
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  But for this time, it is not. He did not discount it. It is a future reality
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  that the superpower in this world will be Israel eventually, eventually.
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  And that is where the whole millennial kingdom comes into play.
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  But the rapture aspect of it, it seems like the Christians, whoever is a believer
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  in God in this, in this world, this is how I'm seeing it. People are going to be taken up.
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  And then who's going to be left here? The Jews, the Jews are going to be left
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  here because they have not embraced the Messiah, but they still believe in the
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  true God. They are the true people of God.
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  And then there's going to be a lot of people that are just lukewarm Christians that were left here.
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  And then other Christians, other just people that just completely don't believe
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  in it at all. And they're just going to explain it away.
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  There might be an element of aliens that come into play and all that.
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  But the only thing that makes sense is that the true believers,
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  as in true Jews, they will then, their eyes will be kind of just,
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  they will be in shock because this actually took place.
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  And then that blindness is going to be taken away. That's where I'm kind of
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  like going towards that.
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  And just for us to support Israel, it's like, even if you don't support them
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  now, you will have to support them in the future.
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  So I would almost get on board and supporting them now because they are the elect nation.
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  They are the chosen people.
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  So, and I know this caught Tucker off guard, but I think his heart is in a good place.
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  He just doesn't see it yet. And I didn't always see it as well.
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  And it doesn't mean that I have perfect theology now or anybody does.
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  But the more that I've looked into the Bible, the more I've examined it and
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  open to this, it does seem that supporting Israel, that doesn't mean everything
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  they're going to do is perfect.
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  And we got to call things out that are wrong, wrong, but there is going to be
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  a definite split, a definite separation between, because it's going to become
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  hostile to supporting Jews.
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  It always gets that way because people, there's a satanic spirit that always
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  wants to destroy the Jewish people through all ages. And it goes away and it
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  comes back. It goes away and it comes back.
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  So where are you going to stand? All right. If you've enjoyed this video,
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