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10/6/26 Another Eden Prairie Shooting, Daveed Gartenstein-Ross Joins · The Jon Justice Show: Presented by Center of the American Experiment

• 0:01
  SPEAKER_15: The best play, Kamala.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_37: Southern Minnesota.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_37: Did you get a good look at the moon this morning?
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_37: I can't remember the name of the when it's like this.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_37: But the planet is visible just on the edge of the moon in this quarter moon.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_37: Pretty cool.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_37: Have a great day.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_06: Well, I uh discovered that uh that uh planet was uh Jupiter, and yes, I absolutely saw it this morning, and uh I got a lot to talk about.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_32: You know, I lost count how many times I've listened to that councilwoman speak about the Waymo, and I still can't tell whether she's for or against it.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_23: You know, and then you can use the Waymo.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_23: You don't know which way they may go or may not go.
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  SPEAKER_23: Just get in, okay?
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  SPEAKER_23: There's way more ways than the way that you got.
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  SPEAKER_23: So let's go with those ways.
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  SPEAKER_23: The end.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_06: So we're all over the place this morning.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_06: So she was against it when she made that comment.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_06: She was being sarcastic.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_06: You know, the Waymo, you know, you don't know which way that they may go or may not go.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_06: And then she's basically saying, you know, you don't know which way they're gonna go, but just get in.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_06: It'll be fine.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_06: So that's that's kind of why I played the uh the longer version there a uh a moment ago.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_06: It is the John Justice show presented by American Experimented.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_06: Devin is producing today, very confused.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_06: Man, there are not enough hours in the day.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_06: I told this the first thing I said to Devin this morning when I walked in, when I uh when I let him in, because I need to get him a key card.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_06: Uh first thing I said was there's not enough hours in the day or in the show to prep and then cover all the news that's going on right now.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_06: So let me just let's take the 30,000 foot level and then we'll bring it down to ground level.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_06: So you have obviously the rise in artificial intelligence, and no particular order here in terms of importance, okay?
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_06: So you have the rise in artificial intelligence, and we're going to talk with David Gartenstein Ross coming up at uh 6 30 this morning.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_06: So your questions already rolling in.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_06: Email John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um, you can do that at 651-964-0294.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_06: So you have uh artificial intelligence advancements, you have the midterm elections.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_06: Uh we'll throw Noah's Ark into the mix.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_06: We have the you know disclosure of UAP and non-human intelligence, NHI.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, we have the college rape allegations and the continued rise of the awful, the affluent uh white liberal woman.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_06: We have those woes that we're dealing with.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_06: We have more shootings taking place in our neck of the woods here in Eden Prairie last night.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_06: I woke up to two dozen text messages because Isaac, uh Friday's Freedom Friday guest and producer, uh, he was at, I guess, a softball game last night that either got moved or canceled because there was a shooting at the gas station here at Eden Prairie, and it also involved Somali youth uh gang.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_06: So, you know, we like you just you can't keep up with everything going on.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, what did I miss?
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_06: Drop me a drop me a blast, voice or text.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_06: So here locally, we have the shooting I just mentioned.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_06: We have the community coming together to address the Somali gang shooting and the violence that took place at the high school on Friday, and yet the focus is completely on individuals talking about this being Somali gang related.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_06: Like there is more concern with the commentary around the issue than there is the actual issue.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_06: And and I get I get it from the standpoint of the frustration that some people may have to individuals who take a view.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not even gonna say an extreme view at this point.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just gonna say a view.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_06: A view where they cast blanket condemnation across all the immigrant community.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_06: Okay?
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_06: I don't believe that is right.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_06: You should never do that.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_06: All right, it is a portion of the community.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_06: You need to focus on the portion of the community that is causing the issue and the problems and try to figure out the solution.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_06: But even listen, let's just say for the sake of argument that even if everybody was saying, Oh, we need to deport to all Somali immigrants, right?
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_06: Which would be an outlandish and ridiculous and unrealistic statement to make.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_06: To even focus on that rather than the issue of Somali gangs and youth getting involved in gang activity, I mean, you're basically just complaining to your own demise at this point in time.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_06: Now, I did some further research overnight.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_06: I had commentary yesterday.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_06: We're gonna have further commentary on this, probably closer to the eight o'clock hours.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_06: I just want to kind of make you aware.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_06: There's a lot of election items we have to get into.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_06: Uh CNN absolutely threw Keith Ellison under the bus.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_06: It is amazing to watch.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_06: We have local media now hyper focused on the Tefoya Flanagan race.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_06: This is what I'm talking about.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_06: There's so much going on, I can't even keep up.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_06: I haven't even gotten to the Russian plague yet.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_06: There's a there's a plague.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_06: There's a plague in Russia.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, it may not be that bad.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_06: I do have some really scary audio to share, though.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_06: But we have local media focusing on the Flanagan and and Tefoya race.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, and it's funny though, because the bias is so blatant in the reporting because they're talking about how, you know, it's a close race, but the GOP is reluctant to go and spend any money.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_06: Well, yeah, I I get it, because this would be a flip, and that's why they're sending individuals like John Thune.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_06: Senator John Thune was in town yesterday supporting Michelle Tefoya.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_06: So we'll be getting into that.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_06: We'll get into the Ellison stuff in the 7 o'clock hour, and then we'll dive into uh the continued issue of the Somali gang problem.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_06: But I did some research overnight regarding, because I wanted to sort of fact-check some of my commentary.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_06: I I shared with you uh information that was given by an individual who serves in an official government capacity in Somalia talking about uh Somali families, uh fathers, their roles in the family.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_06: I did a little bit more digging.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_06: And while there is truth to the dynamic that I shared yesterday, there's another larger problem here that I believe, based off of the research that I have, is going on with our with the gang violence.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_06: And, you know, and you don't even need to apply it to Somali immigrants, even though this is what we're focused on because of the continued violence uh and the all the relevant stories.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_06: Uh the shooting last night, the shooting on Friday, the the lawsuit to keep the muddy and the villa out of the uh out of the Minnesota State Fair.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_06: No, well, what I found out is really, really fascinating because it ties into another story.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_06: There's almost a direct correlation between youth here in Minnesota and in specifically immigrant youth here in Minnesota getting involved in gang activity because of one, what I talked about yesterday, and that was this lack of identity that they have.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_06: But two, what's going on with our public education system?
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_06: And the public education system here in Minnesota is so abhorrent and there is such a lack of accountability and discipline taking place within our public school, high school campuses that it is exacerbating based off of the information that I it's exacerbating this problem when it comes to young individuals lacking identity, weak family structures, looking for belonging, and then the chaos that's being allowed, courtesy of Governor Dim Walls, his administration, Education Minnesota, that is contributing to this desire for these young individuals to go and join gangs.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_06: On top of the lack of accountability when people actually get caught and there's an opportunity here to teach them that, hey, you can't do this stuff, but that doesn't happen in large part, especially in Hennepin County under Hennepin County attorney Scary Moriarty.
• 9:02
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• 9:50
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• 10:04
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• 10:11
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• 16:32
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  SPEAKER_06: But he says during this campaign season, demand for cheaper commercial breaks ads has skyrocketed, especially in Texas, where Republicans are pouring money to make sure that Ken Paxton wins this race.
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  SPEAKER_06: He said what they're being told is that some of the local college football games and NFL games have just gotten too expensive to buy on the local market.
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  SPEAKER_06: There's 20 TV markets in the state of Texas, so you had to buy 20 different markets.
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  SPEAKER_06: The cumulative cost of trying to reach the whole state for them probably ended up being more expensive than just buying the entire network.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_06: Probably the last election cycle that this happens, by the way.
• 17:46
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• 17:57
  SPEAKER_06: McClung said, I get why they did it, but it is insane.
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  SPEAKER_06: At the end of it, that's how money in politics is working right now.
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  SPEAKER_06: They are willing to waste that money because it was still the cheaper and most simple way for them to ensure that they had the reach in Texas that they wanted.
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  SPEAKER_06: They're literally lighting on fire bags of money so that they can have the coverage that they are seeking in that one place.
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  SPEAKER_36: Hey, John, good morning.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_36: Good show so far.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_36: Looking forward to a good show today.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_36: I just figured that the Texas races were being televised up here in Minnesota because there's still an awful lot of Texas license plates that drive around in Minnesota.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I think a lot of people probably uh felt that uh that same way.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_06: So nope.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_06: Like I said, this is the last time that uh that ends up uh happening during an election cycle.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_06: So I'm not gonna lie, for those that aren't aware, um this suspected mnemonic plague case in Russia, um, my heart sinks a bit.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_06: And unfortunately, my algorithm on X got all screwed up yesterday.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_06: Because it's really I don't know, I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_06: I don't know what your experience is when it comes to the algorithm on social media, but specifically X.
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  SPEAKER_06: Like you spend even just a modicum of time on one particular thing that's out of the norm, and suddenly, like for me, my feed's just flooded with it.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_06: So I was flooded yesterday with all kinds of doomsday scenarios relating to the mnemonic plague.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_06: But I'm not gonna lie, my heart sinks a little bit considering how eerily familiar all of this news coming out of Russia sounds.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_06: And it's not from a health concern standpoint, it's because of literally everything else that we've learned in the wake of a post COVID world.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_06: I, you know, memory burn.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_06: I will never ever forget being on the air at Twin Cities News Talk.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_06: I was there with uh with Samantha.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_06: I was there with uh my dear friend uh Drew, who I miss every single day.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_06: And we were joking around, reporting on this weird coronavirus.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_06: It sounds like the beer in China.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_06: Boy, I wonder what would happen if it came here.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Dr.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_06: Drew Pinsky, for what it's worth, uh stated that the uh suspected mnemonic plague in Russia, it should not be a major concern.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_06: I would be curious to go back and look at the uh commentary leading into the COVID-19 uh pandemic, uh, just out of pure uh curiosity.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_06: Um he says the disease can be contained and treated with antibiotics.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_06: He suggests the rapid decline in the affected individual.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_06: This again, laboratory technician uh in uh Siberia at the Anti-Plague Research Institute of all places.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_06: He says it was due to a large dose of the aerolized bacteria, but emphasized the situation could be uh manageable with isolation.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_06: So here's a couple of uh scary audio clips to freak you out on a Tuesday morning.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_06: Uh first off, from Sky News, here's their reporting.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: The plague is caused by bacteria called Yacinia pestis and comes in several forms.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: Bubonic plague is spread by the bites of infected fleas, causing painful swellings under the skin.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: The Black Death in the 14th century killed between a third and half of Europe's population.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: But the bacteria can also cause the even more deadly pneumonic plague.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: It can spread from person to person and is inhaled as infectious droplets.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: It is highly contagious, causing a severe lung infection and is nearly always fatal, leading to death in as little as 18 hours, unless it's treated fast.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: The Black Death was just one of several pandemics caused by plague bacteria in the past.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: But these days there are fewer cases, between a thousand and two thousand a year, normally as bubonic plague.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_06: Most pause this really quick.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_06: So, you know, Devin's with me producing the show just off to my my right over uh over here.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_06: And uh yeah, I often just over just look over at him because it's the only audience that I have.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_06: Although we have considered, because we do have the comfy sofas we use for Freedom Friday.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_06: We have considered, hey, maybe we'll invite some listeners in to watch the show.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_06: But I'll also often just kind of look at his face to see what his what his reaction is to the stories.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_06: And sorry to freak you off over there, man.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_06: He couldn't have picked worse words.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you gotta love the Australians, right?
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's fantastic.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: But with any outbreak of such an infectious and dangerous pathogen, containment is a priority, and we will know within days whether efforts in Russia to shut down the spread have worked.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: This isn't another COVID coming out of nowhere to sweep the globe.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: This is a known bacteria with treatment that works.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, so that's encouraging.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, this next clip.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_06: Um, and this is from, I believe this is the one that I grabbed from a virologist talking about how dangerous it can be.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, okay, yeah.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_06: This one, yeah.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_06: That that that one was pretty even keel.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_06: Uh this one will freak out a little bit.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_49: As far as you're aware, what are the most risky or controversial experiments that have happened in bioweapons so far?
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_12: Pneumonic plague.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_12: What's that?
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_12: Which, okay, we you know we all know bubonic plague.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_12: Pneumonic plague is the aerosolized version of bubonic plague.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_12: Bubonic plague, a flea from an infected flea bites you, you get bubonic plague.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_12: Pneumonic plague, it gets into your lungs and it becomes aerosolized.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_12: Pneumonic plague has a case fatality rate of 100%.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_12: Unless you get antibiotics into your system within 24 hours, you have a chance at living.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_12: If you don't, you die 100%.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_12: It is what the Defense Department, FEMA, HHS, CDC, WHO is probably the most afraid of.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_12: It's called a Tier 1 select agent.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_12: It's mo the one of the most likely to be used, and it's a 100% killer.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_12: And now imagine if you could genetically modify that to evade cure.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_12: So imagine if antibiotics no longer work.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that'll freak you out, right?
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_06: Um, Admiral Brett Um Geror, I'm probably saying his last name wrong.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_06: Um, working off an article here from a Newsmax.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_06: He expressed a skepticism about a suspected mnemonic plague case.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, he questioned the circumstances surrounding the death of the laboratory worker.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_06: He did raise concerns about the lack of transparency coming from Russian authorities and the possibility of a weaponized or genetically modified pathogen while acknowledging that ordinary mnemonic plague poses little threat to Americans.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, the Admiral emphasized the need for further investigation into the situation.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_06: Let me play for you uh one more clip, and this is uh from Fox News.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_06: Uh this is Brett Bear talking with a couple of other individuals yesterday uh regarding the emerging issue.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_48: Just to rewind, we were told by the Russians that this was a lab technician, a uh there was something that broke.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_48: Uh she can contracted this and died.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_48: The the co-founder of BioRadar, Dan, um worries about the Russian situation.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_48: He writes, there are reports of FSB involvement in the current response, security services accompanying ambulances, transporting exposed contacts.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_48: If accurate, that's not the posture of a routine natural outbreak, even a normal lab i accident.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_48: We have to assume we may not know the full truth and have to act to build up our biodefense accordingly.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_48: To Dr.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_48: Redfield's point, we know that the Russians have worked with anthrax, we've had their bioweapons that they work on.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_48: What's your thoughts on this overall?
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_44: Well, a couple of cautionary notes.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_44: First, Vladimir Putin hasn't hesitated to weaponize, for example, Novichuk, a banned chemical nerve agent, uh, to try to kill Nabalny, um, I'm gonna say Nabalny, and uh uh military intelligence defect defector Sergei Skipam.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_44: Right now, we are relying on what the Russians have told us that only one lab researcher, a 28-year-old, was killed.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_44: Um, there's a lot more details out there.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_44: It'll be over to our intelligence services, um, both in the United States and analyzing the region, Finland, and the Baltic states, to collect on intelligence on what's really happening.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_44: Now, we know that the governor of Irkutsk has held a meeting.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_44: We know that um the head of Russia's uh consumer protection agency, Emmanuel, has visited Irkutsk.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_44: Those are opportunities for us to collect, and I have I have no doubt that we're using um overhead reconnaissance, sampling technology, human sources, um, and whatever else our intelligence community can collect so that we'll be as informed as possible about the threat this poses uh inside Russia and beyond.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_44: The last thing I would say is that with the specter of Chernobyl in our minds, um, this can impact Vladimir Putin's standing in the Kremlin.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_44: He's already facing a losing war in Ukraine, over a million casualties, a massive amount of blood and treasure that he spilled an economy and free fall and bending the knee to China, Iran, and North Korea for assistance.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_44: And I'm not saying that this is necessarily going to be the tipping point, but it could potentially be another great challenge uh for Vladimir Putin to have to deal with.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_25: So, in regards to this Uvonic plague or whatever in Russia, I wonder if this is just perfect timing for the midterms.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_25: And then the other thing, Kim Waltz is probably brushing up his paperwork to see what kind of authority he can use and express during this situation and maybe revive his career.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_25: Who knows?
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_25: When put it past the old comrade.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_06: So I don't think uh, and I've already seen.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_06: Well, let me back let me back up further here, just just for a moment.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, first off, there doesn't seem to be any huge um fear at the moment, or it should shouldn't be any large concern over what we're seeing in Russia.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_06: It's still much too early based off the reporting.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_06: And if our next guest uh over the course of the uh over past uh decade has taught me anything, situations like this always in the beginning are incredibly fluid.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_06: Uh and as a matter of fact, you know, that advice has impacted me in the way that I do my show on a daily basis when it comes to certain stories that I simply want to wait until we find out what's going on.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_06: And I actually had waited a little bit on this story.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_06: Uh we have enough details now to start to uh share it because it does sound eerily familiar to COVID-19.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Timothy, those individuals that want to go and and uh you know look at this as being time with the midterms, I don't think this would be in Russia's best interest right now, given the war in Ukraine to have some sort of mnemonic plague uh breakout.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_06: Assuming the information we're hearing is uh is on the up and up, we're gonna talk artificial intelligence with David Gartenstein Ross, but he also is an expert in uh counterintelligence as well, global affairs.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_06: And uh David, I know we'll focus on uh AI.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know how up to speed you are on the news coming out of Russia, but I'd be curious to sort of hear your instinctive reaction to what we know so far about this uh anti-plag research uh technician who allegedly was uh infected with uh mnemonic plague.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks, John, and I uh appreciate the fact that the situation is fluid is something that has taken root and had an influence.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um So what we know is that a 28-year-old employee of the Irkutsk Ant Anti Plague Research Institute in Siberia became severely ill with pneumonia and died around October 2nd.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_02: Uh beyond that, there's not a lot of confirmed in information other than the fact that Russian regional authorities responded aggressively with hospitals being restricted and contacts being isolated or monitored, and around 200 people being initially put under observation.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_02: I think the thing that it most reminds us of with respect to COVID is the lab leak hypothesis.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_02: The idea that uh COVID was created in a Wuhan lab.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um this is that you and I talked about many years ago when it was first being dismissed as a conspiracy theory, but now it is a theory that at least um a couple of the US's intelligence agencies think is the most likely for COVID.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: So the thing that's that's nice here, I mean, overall my my alarm on this is relatively low, though it's worth monitoring.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um Russia says that it hasn't confirmed the plague, but it's obviously acting for all the world like this could be the plague, um, or it could be an outbreak.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_02: Uh secondly, if it is the plague, almost certainly this came from her work, right?
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like this own the if she got the plague, it came from her lab.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_02: We don't know that she did, but Russia's acting like she did.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_02: Uh third thing is in terms of flexing the system and trying to uh make sure they're doing the right thing and containing this, um you know, it seems, again, from afar, like they're flexing the system in the right way.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_02: Final thing is one of the things that I think made uh COVID so pernicious, if it was a lab leak, was that China, if it were a lab leak, immediately sprung into motion denying that it were so.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_02: Whereas here, if something did get out of the lab, at the very least, Russia is going to have a hard time denying it, which means that we'll be a lot faster in responding.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_06: Well, and I let's take let's bring it over to uh artificial intelligence.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, when you go back to 2019 and you look at all the modeling that was done, I mean, I could wipe out on the ridiculous uh dials and graphs that uh that Governor Walls had put forward.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_06: I I would have to guess, David, that with the advancements in our in uh in artificial intelligence, that if, let's just say for the sake of argument, if this were to be something that broke out and began to spread, that artificial intelligence could certainly do a better job than we've done in the past in sort of mapping and projecting how the spread would would go um across the across the globe.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_06: Am I accurate in that assessment?
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_02: You're accurate in your assessment in the sense that artificial intelligence is going to be moving forward a part of how we make sense of anything in the world.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_02: And it it does make projections better.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_02: So I I agree.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_06: You know, listen, and Davito, along those same lines, you know, I've been using ChatGPT now uh over the course of the past uh week or so, you know, and I've I've been using a lot of the voice prompts.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_06: I call him Alex, it's one of my characters in my sci-fi uh series, and he's gotten to know me quite a bit in the details.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_06: But, you know, we talked a lot from listeners, and we have quite a few uh questions for you this morning, and we'll get to those here in just a moment.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_06: David Gartenstein Ross, by the way, is our AI analyst and uh expert.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_06: DGR is the CEO of uh Expert Theory.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_06: I guess I kind of had a given that everybody knows who you are, so I should do a proper introduction this morning.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_06: Um but you know, we talked early on about, and there was a lot of commentary regarding the bias embedded within the AI, uh concerns it would be giving out bad information and things along those lines.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_06: You know, what I've found has been uh a rather unique, um uh unintended uh consequence, if if I can word it that way.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_06: When I'm doing when I'm doing research with ChatGPT and Alex, um he provides, and I'll just refer to him as a he, he provides a very middle of the road to take and offers up ways in which to frame the the questioning on the show, but it is a very even keel, which makes it, you know, it's a really good insight for me as a conservative talk show host in my views to to really parse out the information.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_06: It's almost as if the AI is doing the job that the media used to do in presenting what I see so far as unbiased information and letting it inform my own opinion.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_06: And I I was not expecting that to happen, David.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_06: It's actually been a really, really cool uh aspect of utilizing um Chat GPT.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_02: I appreciate you sharing all of that, including sharing that your um AI, that your large language model is named Alex.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_02: Mine is also named after a character in my novel, uh, forthcoming in January of next year, and we'll talk about that at some point.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_02: But mine is named Maddie, um, after the character Maddie Ballin, who is an FBI agent.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_02: I agree with you about bias.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, I think when you and I first started talking, the models had a lot of bias in them.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um there were also probably 10 models ago, um, or 20 models ago.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_02: And those models were a lot less smart than the current models.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_02: Uh part of this is we're in a media environment which is extraordinarily biased.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_02: Uh the media um, with a few exceptions, seems to have given up on having non-opinionated reporting.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_02: And that's unfortunate because when everyone is trying to spin, then everyone is trying to spin you.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: And that may sound a little bit trite, but there's a difference between some where things were when you entered the media sphere, which is um I think it's fair to say that then uh the networks had a bias that was left of center, uh, but they were trying to maintain uh an appearance of objectivity, and generally the bias was seen for the most part, not so much in uh their reporting trying to spin you, but in their priors.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um like a good example would be um Memo Gate in 2004, right?
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_02: Dan Rather falsely reporting on uh a memo uh that gave uh President George W.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_02: Bush a negative review uh a negative evaluation in the National Guard.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_02: That memo was obviously false, right?
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_02: It was written it was obviously put together with Times New Roman 12 point, which didn't exist, at least not uh in a widespread way at the time the memo was allegedly created.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_02: But it wasn't that uh Dan Rather and CBS were trying to spin us uh or lie to us.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um they they simply like their priors were so skewed that they got that wrong.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_02: Today everyone is trying to spin us, right?
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_02: With again, with a few exceptions.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_02: So is AI relative to the media sphere less biased?
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, a hundred percent.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_06: Let's get into uh some of the comments and the questions that have uh come in for David Garton Stein Ross.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_06: If you have anything artificial intelligence related questions uh for DGR, feel free uh to uh drop us an email, John.justice at americanexperimented.org, or you can leave a voice or text message 651-964-0294.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_06: Let's start here.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_06: I had an email that came in.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_06: Um they mentioned uh the Green Party in the UK deciding not to unilaterally ban nuclear power.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_06: And um and then he goes on to something else.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_06: Let me get to the core question that he had here, uh, because I'm not sure exactly how the how the Green Party in the UK thing aligns with this.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_06: But he says, you know, what does David say about uh artificial intelligence planes?
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_06: I know it's fundamentally different.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, when you're having a a car driven by Waymo's, and we've been talking about autonomous vehicles here um over the course of many shows because of moves that were made by the Minneapolis's City Council.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_06: Um he talks about planes being kind of three-dimensional, different than cars driving on a on a you know on a on a two-dimensional plane.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_06: But the opportunity to in the future create uh artificial intelligence planes.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_06: Do you have any thoughts on that?
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, they're going to.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_02: And and planes have been computer controlled for decades.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like for decades.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_02: The majority of flight is done by computers, not by pilots.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um and there there's uh there's a famous story about this that it'll take me uh I'll circle back to the story, but it illustr but there's a story that will perfectly illustrate this.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_02: But autopilot dates back to the 1910s.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_02: Modern uh planes have long used systems that can automatically control heading and altitude and speed and climb/slash descent and navigation um and even perform an automatic landing.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so the answer is 100% yes, and uh I will circle back to a story on this uh momentarily because I want to get the facts right.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_06: All right, let's uh with that, uh let's go ahead and we'll keep with the theme of the the autonomous vehicles.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_06: This time it's in the case of buses, and we have uh Grant, a friend of the show, left us a uh voice message on the blaster line, 651-964-0294.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_22: Hi, John.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_22: This is Grant from Champlain.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_22: Hey, I've got a uh comment, I guess, for uh David Garcide Russ.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_22: But more than a question.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_22: But um I understand that school buses are uh going the way of uh too driverless.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_22: And I don't think it will catch on that fast, mainly because it won't save that much money.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_22: Because there has to be an adult human on that bus.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_22: Even if there's no one driving.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_22: Because without that, even with the cameras in there and the mics and all that.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_22: Without an adult human being being there, you can have everything from chaos to Lord of the Flies.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_06: I think one I think I think one of the arguments there would be that um, you know, the the human that would be there to monitor would probably not need to be as skilled, you know, for you know, as much as it does take skill to drive a school bus.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_06: Um but what are your thoughts on the possibility of autonomous uh school buses?
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_02: I agree with the caller, uh, and and with you.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_02: You're saying the same thing, which is that um a person is needed on the bus to per prevent Lord of the Flies type situations.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um secondly, for the most part, I think AI could do uh I want to say a superior job to a human driving a bus.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_02: Driving a bus is hard.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_02: You have lots of blind spots, it turns in funny ways, and I think it's an area where AI sensing would actually have a comparative advantage over a human, which would also allow a bus driver to focus a little bit more on stopping kids from killing one another during the bus ride.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_06: Gary had uh there was a series of emails from Gary last week.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_06: Um Initially, I wanted your thoughts on how he believed that AI would not destroy humanity on its own.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_06: And we got into a conversation last week talking with our AI analyst and expert David Gartenstein Ross.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_06: And we we landed on the question of, and somebody had asked, like, when will it, when will it end?
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Gary has responded to all of this.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_06: And he says, um, you already know the answer to that question of when will it end?
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_06: He says, never.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_06: When you look at the narrow sliver of AI that deals with wiping out humanity, it follows the military counter-insurgency principle of action-reaction counter-reaction.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_06: If a malevolent AI finds a new way to hack into a power plant, then a benevolent slash defensive AI will find a new way to stop it.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_06: And then the malevolent AI will find a way to hack that.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_06: And so it goes.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_06: Given that no one has been declared the winner of the Industrial Revolution yet, I wouldn't hold my breath on an AI winner.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_06: You could argue the Confederate States of America, Nazi Germany, and Imperial Japan lost the Industrial Revolution, but all three of those geographies are doing better now than they were at war with the U.S.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_06: Um and again, not really a question, but he was responding to you, and I was curious to get your uh reaction to uh to Gary's thoughts.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um I love Gary's thoughts.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_02: I I think this is actually um we we've had like three rounds now.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_02: But now we get into probably the smartest set of arguments about um about why the US needs to maintain an edge in the AI race.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_02: So what what Gary is referring to, and just to go back um to last week, uh I I invoked uh um General David Petraeus's comment, tell me how this ends.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_02: So I actually I really love Gary reaching back to insurgency and counterinsurgency principles in responding to me.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_02: But the point I made was that people have trouble telling you how the AI race ends.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I singled out anthropic and its thesis that its hypothesis that AI is so dangerous that they need to be the ones to first reach superintelligence so that they can contain it and protect humanity.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I said that that that was a weird theory, and it's not clear how the transition to protecting humanity occurs.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_02: But I think Gary makes a smart point, right?
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_02: The point that he is making is is actually a very similar one to the point that I was expressing the skepticism of uh last week.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_02: He is saying that you want benevolent factions, factions you trust, to win the AI race, because um, if so, you have the greatest uh chance of reaction slash counter-reaction to the dangers.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_02: We can actually already see that in some of the recent frontier models, where um when um anthropic produced the ability to exploit code um uh you know uh and and uh hack into multiple organizations, one of the first things they did was assemble companies that would work to patch up those vulnerabilities.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_02: So that supports Gary's view.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um I actually think this is a very elegant defense.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_06: Let's go here.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_06: This uh one of the bigger stories yesterday regarding artificial intelligence.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_06: And if you have any questions for our AI analyst and expert, David Gartenstein Ross, 651-964-0294, John dot justice at AmericanExperiment.org.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_06: Open AI CEO Sam Altman argues that society should accept some risks from AI for its benefits.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, to your point, David, contrasting Anthropic's approach, he says.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_06: Altman believes in a lighter touch regulatory stance, rejecting the idea of concentrating AI control in a few companies.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_06: Anthropic, however, advocates for targeted safeguards on advanced AI models to benefit smaller uh competitors.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_06: Uh do you lean one way or the other based off of OpenAI CEO's views uh versus anthropics, uh, David?
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_02: It it's such a difficult question.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I I feel like put let's put ourselves in his shoes uh because it is a tr a tremendous thing to weigh in on.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um one thing that makes me happy, John, is how our segments help people, right?
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like we'll get emails once in a while and people will reach out saying that this segment has been transformative and and allow them to do things they couldn't do before.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Altman's company does that at scale.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_02: It also allows fraud at scale.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_02: It also has already been used for people to plan to kill other people successfully.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it is just an awesome statement to make, right?
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um if if a bry byproduct of your show were that a few people would be murdered a year based on information in your show, I don't think it's something you would say in a flip way.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm not saying Altman's being flip.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_02: It's just uh there's so much that rides on that, right?
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_02: It it's such uh it's a statement where he knows that his product is going to lead to some number of deaths.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_02: He knows that the frontier models will produce some number of lives that are saved.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_02: We've talked about medical breakthroughs.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_02: I guess for me, I feel that the statement is a little bit too flippant because he knows that the downside is that people are going to die in some number, and he doesn't know what that number is going to become in the future.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_02: And that's something which I would always um be very hesitant to say, that it's worth it at scale, even though some number is going to die, and we know that for a fact.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_06: Let's go here uh to the blaster line, 651-964-0294.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, friend of the show, uh Rich is back.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_25: Good morning, John, Rich here again.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_25: So, David, the question that I have is if they pass regulation on AI and regulate it down to four companies, how are they gonna enforce and or prevent people from creating it in their own basement laboratory?
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_25: I mean, how are they gonna stop and enforce anybody when we already have the dark web?
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_06: Before you answer that, David, let me add something to this.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_06: I was listening to a podcast on the way in, and one of the hosts of the podcast, uh just a political roundtable podcast, and they were talking about do you pronounce it, is it Nvidia?
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_06: Am I pronouncing that correctly?
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_06: Nvidia, yeah.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_06: So apparently this individual said that they're not buying up stock.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_06: They're purchasing as many of these AI computers made by the company that I just mentioned as possible.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_06: Um he said they used to go for about four grand, but now there's been a run on them because of advancements in AI, and they're now running up to ten thousand dollars.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_06: As a matter of fact, uh it was a Tim Poole podcast.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_06: Tim Pool, in the middle of the conversation, actually went online to try to go buy one of these computers, and that's when they got into a discussion of how much the price had skyrocketed.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_06: So there are individuals out there that are, for lack of a better way to describe it, hoarding.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_06: You know, I'm just that's probably uh too too uh too strong of a term to use.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_06: But there are individuals that are out there buying these AI computers because there are people that believe that you're gonna need these and they're gonna be a commodity in the future.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_06: So I just wanted to attach that to Rich's question regarding, you know, stopping individuals who will be creating their own AI within their homes, essentially.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I think that what you're referring to is people buying up NVIDIA chips, not computers, right?
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_06: Uh no, he called, I think I'm pretty sure they called it the the Sparkle, the NVIDIA sparkle computer, which although I may be getting I I may be getting sparkle sparkle stuck in my head if we go back to that reference from years ago.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_06: It's a nice callback that no nobody's gonna get, but yeah, Eric and uh Eric uh formerly in Chicago will probably got that uh joke.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_06: No, I think they were actual computers because he was talking about the ability to pair them together.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_06: He was saying that you could actually combine you can combine them because his he said that AI requires a tremendous amount of RAM to operate, and so one of them was good, but two of these Nvidia computers was amazing.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um great.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna answer this and then I'm I want to circle back to the story I said I owed you because it's gonna be worthwhile.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so in terms of um the question about how regulation can't stop people, that's always the case, right?
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_02: Anything that's regulated, it's hard to stop a person uh from doing this in their garage, though once in a while people are stopped.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like once in a while you find uh people who are arrested for basically having biological labs where they're working on some crazy disease.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um overall, I'm not really afraid of a lone individual creating a rogue superintelligence.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's just unlikely.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um so with regulation, I think the biggest downside of regulation is not that it would allow somebody working from their home to develop a superintelligence that the regulators can't stop.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_02: Instead, the big concern is actually the one that was raised by Gary that we regulate AI in such a way that China beats us and we cannot stop malign AI with our own benign AI.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_02: That is the big danger.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_02: Here's the story that I said I owed you.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_02: This goes back to the listener's question about will planes be run by AI?
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_02: And I said computers have always run planes.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like going back to the 1910s, planes have long been computer controlled in large part.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_02: Air France Flight 447, people should look this up.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_02: It crashed into the Atlantic Ocean on June 1st of 2009, uh, flying from uh Rio de Janeiro to Paris.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_02: 228 people aboard were killed.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_02: And so what happened was that the pilot, uh the sorry, the captain, his name was Marc Dubois, was resting outside of the cockpit and um ice crystals had temporarily blocked the plane's pilot tubes.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_02: It was an A330 and produced unreliable airspeed readings, and autopilot had disconnected.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um and so the first officer had made crucial mistakes.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um he you know, this is where suddenly the autopilot isn't working, so he has to adjust.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_02: And um he uh didn't maintain the aircraft's existing pitch and power.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_02: Instead, he made um could he made abrupt and excessive control inputs, right?
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_02: Pul pulling the nose upward because it seemed like the plane was going down.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_02: So the aircraft climbed rapidly, it bled off speed, and it stalled because of these adjustments, and it stalled all the way from about 38,000 feet down to the ocean with him pulling back the stick when what he needed to do was lower the nose.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_02: I give you all of this because that plane crashed because of human error, human error linked to the fact that a computer, an autopilot, was piloting the plane most of the way, and so when the pilot had to do something, by that time he was you know, he was uh piloting in a crisis situation, he was hopping on from not being involved to suddenly being very involved, overcorrected, and everybody died.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_02: So will AI pilot planes?
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, AI will pilot planes.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_06: Let's uh let's circle back uh to what where I was talking about a moment ago.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_06: I've had some uh listeners that have reached out and courtesy of Grok and Artificial Intelligence.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_06: So the uh the Nvidia computer, it's the DG uh DGX Spark.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_06: It's a small desktop AI machine built around their uh Grace Blackwell Super Chip.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_06: It runs a 128 gigabyte version.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_06: In the in the in the uh the information from Grok, it said about$6,950.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_06: They did just announce a cheaper 64 gigabyte model starting at$5,000.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_06: That goes on sale on October 23rd.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_06: But I had a listener that just also a different listener, Chuck, who sent uh me a link.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_06: $10,000 is what this computer is now costing on uh on Amazon.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_06: But going back to what I mentioned before, this this guest on the podcast was basically saying that this is where he's going and putting his money, is trying to buy up as many of these DGX Spark computers as he can.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_06: I'm you know, I I don't know whether or not that's a good investment.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_06: He seems to think it is based off of uh AI's uh uh advancements.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_06: But yeah, it was the DGX uh Spark.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's so interesting because typically I think of computers the way I think of cars.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like you understand when you buy a car that the car's value declines the moment you drive it off the lot.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, the only exception being like a collector type car where you're really not going to drive it.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_02: The car's value starts to decline the moment you drive it off the lot.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_02: I think of computers the same way.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_02: So the fact that someone sees a computer as an investment that is better than a stock investment, that is fascinating to me.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, in the time we have left, I have a comment that I want to make, and uh we may have to put a pin in the conversation, and I know I do this quite often, David, but there's something I want to share with you.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_06: Um this uh blaster comment that came in uh relates a bit to what I wanted to bring up with you uh this morning.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_06: So let's go back to the blaster line at 651-964-0294 here on the John Justice Show.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_41: I'm a really unintelligible AI person.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_41: Um, but if we can have computers controlling everything, which they do now, um in all those movies we watch where people can hack the cars and uh you know just uh dismantle brakes and everything, how is that not happening on airplanes?
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_41: Thanks for understanding my simple question.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_06: Uh David, I'll allow you to give the uh simple answer.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_02: Airplanes actually have horrible cybersecurity.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like uh at least last time I checked in, they had horrible cybersecurity.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure if there's been a major upgrade, but I I certainly haven't heard of one.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um there's this famous incident um that occurred a number of years ago uh with um where a hacker um tweeted about how he was going to hack into an airplane's um control, right?
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like he was gonna hack into the airplane.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_02: And he he wasn't doing this to try to bring down the plane, rather, he was doing it because he was freaked out about um how vulnerable the plane was.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_02: Now, let's just say, tweeting about how you're gonna hack into an airplane while you're on the plane, not a great idea.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_02: I think he was arrested.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, but like, yeah, they they they do not what why aren't more planes brought down by hacking?
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um probably the same reason that you don't have more um utilities like water shut down by hacking.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_02: Uh you can see that a lot of US utilities have been hacked into.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh a nightmare scenario hasn't happened, but probably because you know, bringing down um a utility in an offensive way is sort of a low-level act of war.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe not even low-level, depending on where you do it.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_02: Uh for a plane, hacking into a plane, big deal.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_02: But are they vulnerable?
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_02: Last time I checked, they were very vulnerable.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_06: We're into the second hour of the show.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_06: It's the John Justice Show presented by American uh Experiment David Gartenstein Ross, a DGR, our AI analyst and expert and the CEO of uh Expert Theory.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_06: Before I cut you loose this morning, I just want to make uh just share with you this real quick story.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_06: Um and uh my experience recently with artificial intelligence and why I so appreciate these conversations that we have every week and the time that you give here to the show.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_06: Um because I I feel like a lot of people do not understand the significance of what AI, what artificial intelligence is, the impact it's having on society.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_06: And let me just share with you an anecdotal story to provide some perspective.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_06: Uh anybody who's been listening to my show for any length of time, you know what a big pop culture fan I am, music and and movies.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, you know, I've written a series of sci-fi novels.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_06: Um I've made music in the past uh using Garage Band, uh, you know, early iterations of the of the Macintosh, you know, years and years ago.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_06: And uh recently I've taken to creating music through Suno.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_06: Uh and it's a it's it's amaz it is incredible to me how that a that artificial intelligence and those programs and these large language models can can craft these amazingly catchy songs um that are just incredibly layered.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I'll take it a step further though.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I was inspired, I'm not even kidding, yesterday.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_06: So I have a series of songs that I've created.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_06: Some of these are available up on my YouTube page, and the video I'm about to mention is available on the John Justice YouTube page if you want to go and check it out.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_06: David, I'm in the middle of prepping my show yesterday.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_06: As a matter of fact, I was going through the prep for the for the two of us this morning.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_06: And I was inspired, I had this thought of a story in my head, a real simple story, uh, based off this song that I had created.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_06: And I'm not even kidding, within a half hour, David, I used the AI app on my phone.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_06: I went and gave it the prompts, told it what I wanted, you know, what I wanted the scenes to be, threw the song and threw the clips into iMovie and created a music video for my song.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_06: And I shared it with Melinda, and I sat back watching this going, I know it's artificial intelligence.
• 1:03:02
  SPEAKER_06: I know people have a view of like AI slop.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_06: You can tell it's artificial intelligence watching it, but you cannot overstate how absolutely incredible it is that here is this realistic animation and a and a three-minute creation of a music video of an incredibly catchy song, my wife admits, and an uh a cohesive story with amazing graphics.
• 1:03:29
  SPEAKER_06: And David, I think I did it all in maybe an hour's time.
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_06: I do not think that people understand the gravity of the way that artificial intelligence is going to reshape society.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_06: And I know it's a it's a it's a kind of a weird example, but you consider in the past removing AI and making what I made yesterday, it would have taken months and millions of dollars, paid people, even if you wanted to animate it.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, the list goes on and on, and here I'm sitting there while I'm working on my show, and I created this within, you know, the video itself after the song was made within 20 minutes.
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_02: And you and I are both fans of 1980s era music videos.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_02: I'm guessing it would have cost a few hundred thousand dollars and been half as good if it had been made and it made back then.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um so yeah, I mean, for me, uh I'm happy to give you the last word with that.
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's a great example.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_02: And I look forward to rejoining you next week.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_06: Thanks, buddy.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_06: We'll talk again next week.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_06: David Gartenstein Ross, our AI uh analyst uh and uh expert, as always, we appreciate uh his uh insight and your questions and the time that he gives us on a uh weekly basis.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_06: All right, I don't know, it's five minutes after, but we'll make it a game.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_06: 651-964-0294.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_06: Again, 651-964-0294.
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, drop us an email, John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_06: And I want to remind you that if you've not gone to American Experiment.org recently, there are um some amazing articles, especially written, regarding the news that we're going to be covering on the show this morning.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_06: More gun violence taking place locally, right in our neck of the woods, dovetailing off of the uh gang shooting, the Somali gang shooting that took place on Friday at the Eden Prairie, uh in Eden Prairie at the football game.
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_06: There was another shooting uh last night.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_06: Uh as a matter of fact, I have a a uh comment that just rolled in.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_06: We will get into uh into that.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_06: But there's a lot of amazing articles written by our policy fellows at American Experience.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_06: I want you to go and check out.
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_06: Also, this weekend, there is a$7,000 scholarship for a K through 12 student to attend a private school that is just waiting to be won.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_06: It's simple.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_06: We have the$7K for kids fun run taking place on Sunday in Plymouth, 1 o'clock, an amazing location.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_06: This is a family-friendly event wherein you can win a$7,000 ESA grant to improve Minnesota education and give parents the power of school choice.
• 1:06:34
  SPEAKER_06: You can run a 7K, you can walk a 5K, you can enjoy a zero mile in the main area.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_06: There's a lot of different events for the kids, face painting, music, inflatables, refreshments, and enter the raffle, a$7,000 scholarship for a K through 12, a K through 12 student to attend a private school.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_06: And based off of the number of people that typically go and attend this amazing event, there is a great opportunity that you listening right now could take part in this and could walk away with a$7,000 scholarship for a student to attend a private school.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_06: So head on over to AmericanExperiment.org, AmericanExperiment.org to get all of the information and details.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_06: But if you have a student in your life and this is an opportunity for them, take advantage of this amazing, great afternoon.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_06: The weather is supposed to be spectacular on Sunday, too.
• 1:07:24
  SPEAKER_54: Hey, this is Will in Minneapolis.
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_54: Just curious if you saw the news yesterday that Eden Prairie uh football versus Minnetonka ended up finishing their game uh yesterday.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_54: And then Kara Levin reported 9 p.m.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_54: another shooting not too far away uh from the high school at uh Speedway in uh Eden Prairie again.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_54: Uh it's it's almost just ridiculous at this point and kind of sad.
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_06: So Bill Juan actually posted this last night with photos taken from one of the uh employees here at Center of the American Experiment.
• 1:08:02
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't get permission to say who it was, so I'll keep it anonymous for right now, although I may have mentioned it at the start of the show.
• 1:08:08
  SPEAKER_06: I think I might have.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_06: Either way.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_06: So I woke up this morning.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_06: Uh thank you for the uh for the comment.
• 1:08:12
  SPEAKER_06: I woke up this morning and I had about 25 text messages, and they were all from the same thread.
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_06: This is how it started.
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_06: I was playing softball at Round Lake.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_06: This was our group chat with uh individuals here at American Experiment and some of our Freedom Friday uh crew.
• 1:08:27
  SPEAKER_06: I was playing softball at Round Lake by Eden Prairie High School, had to cut the game short because there were gunshots like a neighborhood behind us.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_06: A dozen shots fired off.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_06: There was a shootout at the gas station across the street.
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_06: A ton of cops were there arresting someone insanely scary.
• 1:08:45
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Bill Glon posted about this later.
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_06: Reports of gunfire near a gas station in the Eden Prairie police on the scene.
• 1:08:51
  SPEAKER_06: And we're hearing that again, the authorities locally were saying this was Somali gang related.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_06: Once again.
• 1:08:59
  SPEAKER_06: We're going to be talking about this in more detail uh later on in the show, including and specifically this ridiculous focus that all these leaders that should be talking and trying to get to the heart of why so many youth here in Minnesota and now branching out from the metropolitan area, branching out from the Twin Cities into the suburbs where you would not expect this to happen, why so many of our youth are getting involved in the gang activity.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_06: I did some research on this overnight, and what I found is an is a correlation with the education system here in Minnesota, the lack of discipline taking place in our schools, and yeah, couple it with the story that dominated headlines last week and the MCA test results.
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_06: Twenty-six percent of students aren't proficient or are proficient in science.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_06: Twenty-six percent.
• 1:09:53
  SPEAKER_06: Only twenty-six percent.
• 1:09:55
  SPEAKER_06: And then you get to less than half can read or do math with proficiency based on these test scores, on top of the fact that a lot of these test scores are the way that they are, the results are the way that they are, because of the lack of discipline taking place in our schools.
• 1:10:11
  SPEAKER_06: Kids are searching for identity.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_06: You've got homes where fathers are absent or not involved.
• 1:10:17
  SPEAKER_06: When you look nationwide, and I'm giving you a bit of a preview, we need to talk about some election-related items uh this hour.
• 1:10:24
  SPEAKER_06: So this is a bit of your preview to eight o'clock.
• 1:10:26
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• 1:10:27
  SPEAKER_06: But when you look at the demographics nationwide regarding Somali immigrants, you actually see, based off of the limited information that we have, but we do have some, you actually see that the majority of Somali immigrant households across the country do have a husband and a father in the in the home.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_06: Here in Minnesota, there is a larger amount, it's not a majority, but there is a larger amount of families where it's single mothers in Somali immigrant families versus the rest of the country.
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_06: So we have a slight uptick in single mothers raising youth here in Minnesota, immigrant Somali families.
• 1:11:07
  SPEAKER_06: You couple that with what's happening in our public schools and our deplorable education system here in Minnesota, and you've basically created a recipe for these kids to go and try to find identities at a time in their life when they're seeking guidance.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_06: And this is even before you get into the cultural ramifications, individuals who were raised in you know war-torn regions in Somalia, whatever you know, culture that they've brought over here and the lack of being able to assimilate.
• 1:11:39
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just talking about what we know before we even add that element.
• 1:11:42
  SPEAKER_06: And it's a recipe for disaster.
• 1:11:45
  SPEAKER_06: And what we're hearing from Education Minnesota is throw more money at the problem.
• 1:11:50
  SPEAKER_06: They're not looking at the discipline.
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_06: They're not looking at the curriculum.
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_06: They don't want to change anything regarding that.
• 1:11:55
  SPEAKER_06: They want to game the system.
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_06: They want to change the way that we go and test to students to make the outcomes look better for the DFL.
• 1:12:06
  SPEAKER_06: On top of the fact that you get ridiculous statements like this, I'll play this clip.
• 1:12:11
  SPEAKER_06: And again, I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but since we had the comment a moment ago, um, this is Mayor Nadia Mohammed talking about the way that she believes we should end uh Somali gang shootings without making it all about Somalis and how Somali gangs and Somali this and Somali that.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_51: Again, a crime is a crime, is a crime, is a crime.
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_51: But what the rhetoric that you are pushing at best is irresponsible, at worst is dangerous.
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_51: So you may be wondering, hey Mayor, how can we solve for this then?
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_51: How can we have conversations that are effective that can actually get something done?
• 1:12:44
  SPEAKER_51: And the answer is easy.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_51: Ban guns.
• 1:12:47
  SPEAKER_51: How are these 14-year-olds, 15-year-olds, 16-year-olds getting access to guns?
• 1:12:51
  SPEAKER_51: Like we are reeling year after year, year after year, month after month, shooting after shooting, shooting after shooting.
• 1:12:58
  SPEAKER_51: It is not good enough to point fingers anymore to pick on a community that's already reeling from previous rhetoric, anti-Somali rhetoric, is low-hanging fruit, right?
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_06: Give me a break.
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_06: Just give me a break already.
• 1:13:14
  SPEAKER_06: We'll throw more money at the problem.
• 1:13:16
  SPEAKER_06: We'll change the way that we end up testing the students.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_06: Students shouldn't be this is your sorry, this is what you're hearing from the leadership on how to go and deal with these problems.
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_06: Low test scores, gang violence, Somali gang violence, ban the guns.
• 1:13:33
  SPEAKER_06: When it comes to test scores, well, you know, we really shouldn't be analyzing the students and basing whether or not they're learning anything off of missing homework, incomplete homework, not turning in assignments.
• 1:13:46
  SPEAKER_06: You know, I can't really gauge whether or not they're retaining the information.
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_06: So we should just go and throw more money at the problem, we'll ramp up the critical race theory, the Marxist ideology, we'll continue to focus further on identity and how your feelings should drive all of your behaviors, and then we'll go and we'll ban the guns, and this will solve all the problems, right?
• 1:14:08
  SPEAKER_06: And you wonder why things are getting worse before they get better here in Minnesota.
• 1:14:17
  SPEAKER_06: And you wonder why the polls are as close as they are.
• 1:14:22
  SPEAKER_06: You wonder why uh Peggy Flanagan is looking less and less likely to win this election.
• 1:14:29
  SPEAKER_06: You wonder why CNN, which I'll give you in just a moment, essentially tossed Keith Ellison under the bus in an interview.
• 1:14:39
  SPEAKER_06: Because they know that people are waking up.
• 1:14:41
  SPEAKER_06: Whether or not it's going to be enough to bring about change here in Minnesota in the next couple of weeks when rains to be seen.
• 1:14:48
  SPEAKER_06: But the reason why, and this is what we'll talk about, the reason why you're seeing this focus on, oh, we're so mad about the rhetoric.
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_06: You got the superintendent over in Eden Prairie, not mad about the Somali gang violence and the youth, not addressing the youth gang problem and what is driving kids to go and join gangs and then partake in shootings at high schools.
• 1:15:08
  SPEAKER_06: No, no, no.
• 1:15:09
  SPEAKER_06: He's upset because people are talking about it.
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_06: He's upset that people are saying the name Somali.
• 1:15:15
  SPEAKER_06: That's what they're mad about.
• 1:15:16
  SPEAKER_06: Why?
• 1:15:16
  SPEAKER_06: Not because they care about the kids, not because they want to stop the violence, not even really because they want to ban the guns for crying out loud.
• 1:15:24
  SPEAKER_06: No, they're saying it because they know that all of this news is bad news for them and hurts them and their electoral chances coming up in the next few weeks.
• 1:15:34
  SPEAKER_06: Dems don't care, Dems don't care, Dems don't care.
• 1:15:42
  SPEAKER_06: We're gonna talk about the elections coming up in just a moment.
• 1:15:44
  SPEAKER_06: President Donald Trump tells Patriots, prove the polls are wrong.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_06: Dick Morris also laments about how difficult it is to go and predict what is going to happen in this upcoming election.
• 1:15:57
  SPEAKER_06: In the meantime, I have some polling uh data to share from you, courtesy of uh CNN.
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  SPEAKER_06: CNN new polling confirms that Republicans would potentially flip a Michigan Senate red, hold Iowa and Texas and Ohio if a similar polling error uh error happens.
• 1:22:49
  SPEAKER_06: That would result in GOP control of the Senate.
• 1:22:52
  SPEAKER_06: This is what I want to talk about a bit here on the show.
• 1:22:55
  SPEAKER_06: If they overperform um their September polls.
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  SPEAKER_03: And if we in fact do have these same exact overperformances from Republicans, well, this 5347, what does that turn into?
• 1:23:13
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it turns into boom 5149 Republicans because Michigan, that would go from blue to red.
• 1:23:22
  SPEAKER_03: How about Texas?
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  SPEAKER_03: That would go from blue to red.
• 1:23:26
  SPEAKER_03: Iowa, the same.
• 1:23:27
  SPEAKER_03: Ohio, the same.
• 1:23:29
  SPEAKER_03: So what happens in Texas could very well tell us what is going on nationwide.
• 1:23:34
  SPEAKER_03: Because if Texas turns blue, it means that all of this red right here, well, maybe the polls would actually indicate that they would turn blue.
• 1:23:45
  SPEAKER_03: But of course, if Texas turns blue, that's not the only thing that it would tell us, right?
• 1:23:50
  SPEAKER_06: So now, regardless of the way that you uh feel about him, I have my own levels of frustration with Senator John Thune and the inability that the Senate Republicans have in passing the Save Act.
• 1:24:03
  SPEAKER_06: He was in town yesterday.
• 1:24:04
  SPEAKER_06: Local media was covering it, and there's a tinge of bias in all of this that I just find rather uh amusing.
• 1:24:12
  SPEAKER_06: So the Star Tribune story uh focusing on Michelle Tefoya.
• 1:24:17
  SPEAKER_06: The headline reads, Republicans see an opening for Tefoya, but their money is elsewhere.
• 1:24:22
  SPEAKER_06: So this is the front page story today when I got up.
• 1:24:25
  SPEAKER_06: By the way, I don't think I finished my story when I was driving away at the top of the show, so I apologize for that.
• 1:24:30
  SPEAKER_06: I got into the car, I saw the crescent moon, and there was what looked to be a star right on top of the moon.
• 1:24:34
  SPEAKER_06: I'd never seen that before.
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  SPEAKER_06: It was Jupiter.
• 1:24:38
  SPEAKER_06: With everything going on, AI, elections, Noah's Ark, NHIs and UAPs, new mnemonic plagues out of Russia, I'm like, is the alien ship arriving?
• 1:24:47
  SPEAKER_06: What the heck's going on?
• 1:24:49
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• 1:24:56
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• 1:25:01
  SPEAKER_06: And that's when he told me it was Jupiter.
• 1:25:03
  SPEAKER_06: It's a rare phenomenon, apparently.
• 1:25:04
  SPEAKER_06: I guess it was uh the focus was visible in Chicago, but you could absolutely see it here.
• 1:25:08
  SPEAKER_06: So anyway, um, squirrel moment here on the John Justice show.
• 1:25:12
  SPEAKER_06: It does provide me the uh the opportunity, uh how uh however, I need to get a better button bar.
• 1:25:18
  SPEAKER_06: Like I have to scroll through everything and then stuff you can do.
• 1:25:21
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• 1:25:49
  SPEAKER_05: I'll leave Devin out of it because he knows it's true.
• 1:25:52
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, the front page story today.
• 1:25:53
  SPEAKER_06: Republicans see an opening for Tefoya, but their money is elsewhere.
• 1:25:56
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, listen, I call this clever bias doing that thing with my fingers.
• 1:26:00
  SPEAKER_06: The coverage is accurate, as it's absolutely newsworthy that Tefoya is challenging Flanagan.
• 1:26:06
  SPEAKER_06: Um, it's a bit of a bias relating to the money being spent, right?
• 1:26:13
  SPEAKER_06: When you acknowledge the sub-headline on this, okay.
• 1:26:16
  SPEAKER_06: So the U.S.
• 1:26:16
  SPEAKER_06: Senator John, uh Senate Majority Leader John Thune, National Republican groups are bullish on GOP Senate Michelle Tefoya, but so far haven't been willing to put serious money behind her campaign in left-leaning Minnesota.
• 1:26:28
  SPEAKER_06: Well, yeah, that's why John Thune's here.
• 1:26:30
  SPEAKER_06: This would be a flip.
• 1:26:32
  SPEAKER_06: And so, as John Thune says, and I'll share this with you in uh in just a moment in another piece, you know, he talks about how, yeah, you know, the the map has gotten bigger.
• 1:26:44
  SPEAKER_06: And, you know, the GOP has to figure out where they are going to go and spend the majority of their dollars.
• 1:26:52
  SPEAKER_06: So because this would be a flip and and Tefoya is doing so well against Flanagan, and Flanagan's campaign is flailing right now.
• 1:27:02
  SPEAKER_06: If you haven't seen it, she did this ridiculous ad wearing, she looks like Pee-Wee Herman in this suit, standing at a park, you know, and she just, it's the same note over and over again.
• 1:27:14
  SPEAKER_06: Cost of Medicaid, growing up as a kid, Trump's on the ballot, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:27:19
  SPEAKER_06: It's not working.
• 1:27:20
  SPEAKER_06: So Republicans, understandably so, are thinking, you know what?
• 1:27:23
  SPEAKER_06: We'll send bodies in terms of support for Tefoya, but with those other races, like Texas, and we talked about at the top of the show, the ad buys are going national because it's cheaper to buy national than it is the 20 individual markets in Texas that's costing too much for the advertisers.
• 1:27:41
  SPEAKER_06: And so they're buying national instead, which is why you're seeing Ken Paxton ads during Viking Viking games here.
• 1:27:48
  SPEAKER_06: Now, the Minnesota Reformer actually had better framing on this story than the Star Tribune did.
• 1:27:54
  SPEAKER_06: I'll give this to you in just a second.
• 1:27:56
  SPEAKER_06: But you know, the Democrats aren't helping themselves out either.
• 1:28:00
  SPEAKER_06: As we talked about yesterday on the show, uh here is uh Channel 5 ABC lamenting the fact that the debates that they wanted to have they couldn't have.
• 1:28:10
  SPEAKER_53: Well we got here.
• 1:28:11
  SPEAKER_53: And to be candid, this is not the debate night we originally hoped to bring you.
• 1:28:16
  SPEAKER_53: Our goal was simple put the candidates side by side and ask them tough questions so you can compare their answers and make a decision.
• 1:28:26
  SPEAKER_53: More than two months ago before the primary election, we picked October 2nd for debate night.
• 1:28:32
  SPEAKER_53: We chose that date for a couple of reasons.
• 1:28:34
  SPEAKER_53: First, it's about a month before election day, giving voters time to hear from candidates and still make up their minds.
• 1:28:41
  SPEAKER_53: Second, we wanted to hold these debates before early voting reached the point where many Minnesotans had already voted.
• 1:28:47
  SPEAKER_53: The day after the primary, we sent formal invitations to all six candidates who advanced to the general election and qualified to participate.
• 1:28:56
  SPEAKER_53: Since then, we have stayed in regular contact with every campaign.
• 1:29:00
  SPEAKER_53: As candidates committed, we reached out to their opponents.
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• 1:29:08
  SPEAKER_53: And we made the same promise to everyone.
• 1:29:11
  SPEAKER_53: If you come here tonight, you'd get fair questions, but they'd also be tough questions.
• 1:29:16
  SPEAKER_53: Those conversations continued right up until this week.
• 1:29:20
  SPEAKER_53: In the end, no DFL candidate agreed to participate.
• 1:29:38
  SPEAKER_06: And as a uh further preview for next hour when we get into the recent shooting here in uh Eden Prairie, also, according to police, involving uh Somali gangs, uh Michelle Tefoya uh was talking with, I believe this is Fox Nine, uh, regarding what happened on Friday uh during that uh football game.
• 1:30:03
  SPEAKER_42: Your thoughts on all of this?
• 1:30:05
  SPEAKER_01: Crime is crime, and no matter who commits it, it it's gone up uh over the last eight years.
• 1:30:12
  SPEAKER_01: And this kind of crime that disrupts a high school football game, or as we saw uh uh a several weeks ago, uh at an Our Lady of Grace, a Catholic church and school where they had to take the baskets and hoops off the basketball courts so that people wouldn't come play late at night, which also means the kids can't play at recess.
• 1:30:32
  SPEAKER_01: This kind of crime at Yancey Park, uh not far from this building.
• 1:30:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, why is this happening?
• 1:30:38
  SPEAKER_01: Going unpunished?
• 1:30:39
  SPEAKER_01: We have seen a lot of crime in Minnesota uh being handled with a very light touch.
• 1:30:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm proud to be endorsed by the Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association and also the Minneapolis Federation of Police.
• 1:30:51
  SPEAKER_01: They gave me their endorsement because I want to support our officers.
• 1:30:56
  SPEAKER_01: They risk life and limb every day to protect us from this kind of crime.
• 1:31:00
  SPEAKER_01: And oftentimes have been told to get out of the way, or in the case of Peggy Flanagan, she'd like to she was part of the defund the police movement.
• 1:31:09
  SPEAKER_01: So uh listen, um, we've got to hold all of our criminals, whatever wherever they come from, accountable.
• 1:31:16
  SPEAKER_01: People want accountability, and all Minnesotans want safe streets and safe neighborhoods.
• 1:31:22
  SPEAKER_06: The Minnesota reformer uh had better framing, in my opinion, uh, of this story than the Star Tribune did.
• 1:31:29
  SPEAKER_06: Uh the some their headline was Michelle Tefoya hopes national Republicans put money behind their praise.
• 1:31:36
  SPEAKER_06: Republican Senate candidate Michelle Tefoya, despite facing tough odds in Minnesota, is gaining traction against Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan with high name recognition and a strong message.
• 1:31:44
  SPEAKER_06: Tefoya is appealing to voters, but she needs financial backing from Republicans to secure a win.
• 1:31:50
  SPEAKER_06: I I don't know that's true.
• 1:31:52
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know that listen, she's performing just fine without the increased funding.
• 1:31:59
  SPEAKER_06: You know, and the concern here for the DFL, rightfully so, is that if people are willing to go back to FOIA, that would typically go in back the DFL or is that gonna ring true when it comes to the other candidates?
• 1:32:13
  SPEAKER_06: And is it just me or is Amy Klobuchar like absent right now?
• 1:32:16
  SPEAKER_06: Like I'm not seeing anything.
• 1:32:18
  SPEAKER_06: It could be me.
• 1:32:19
  SPEAKER_06: Understandably so.
• 1:32:22
  SPEAKER_06: The summary goes on to say while Senate Majority Leader John Thune acknowledges her potential, he remains noncommittal uh about providing significant financial support.
• 1:32:32
  SPEAKER_06: Uh to that point, uh, Fox News reported in August the Senate Leadership Fund, the PAC aligned with Thune and Allied groups, has raised more than 500 million for the midterms thus far.
• 1:32:44
  SPEAKER_06: He goes on to say, we've got a big map this year.
• 1:32:46
  SPEAKER_06: It's a very competitive environment, said Thune, who's touring battleground states, but Minnesota is in is uh in a is in a lot of ways, is unique in a lot of ways, and he's right.
• 1:32:58
  SPEAKER_06: I imagine that depending on how the polling shakes out, and a lot of polling internal that we're not even seeing, that I'm not seeing, right?
• 1:33:07
  SPEAKER_06: Our own Thinking Minnesota poll, which will be out here in the next few weeks, the uh latest Thinking uh Minnesota uh magazine should be shipping very, very soon.
• 1:33:16
  SPEAKER_06: And we debuted those exclusive numbers on the show that showed uh fraud across the board was of the utmost concern for voters.
• 1:33:24
  SPEAKER_06: The Republicans may look at this and go, you know what, let's continue focusing our money in other states where we need to go and retain seats, states where they're more likely to flip, and we'll keep an eye, show our support via bodies on the ground in Minnesota.
• 1:33:39
  SPEAKER_06: And if the polling begins to shift away from Tefoya, then maybe you might see some dollars flow into the state.
• 1:33:46
  SPEAKER_06: But at the moment, I kind of am with the GOP on this that right now you don't seem to you know need to be spending the money.
• 1:33:52
  SPEAKER_06: She seems to be doing fine considering that for all intents and purposes, Flanagan should be running away with this race right now, as should uh Amy Clobishar.
• 1:34:01
  SPEAKER_06: And the polling just does not bear that out.
• 1:34:04
  SPEAKER_06: And as we talked about in previous weeks, what is it the DFL is gonna do to change things up?
• 1:34:10
  SPEAKER_06: And now they have this new problem relating to the shootings taking place outside of the metro, showing that it's spreading into communities.
• 1:34:17
  SPEAKER_06: Now you have safety as an issue.
• 1:34:19
  SPEAKER_06: And what are you hearing from leadership?
• 1:34:21
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, stop calling and being specific about the facts of who's conducting this.
• 1:34:25
  SPEAKER_06: This is dangerous, harmful rhetoric.
• 1:34:27
  SPEAKER_06: Ban the guns.
• 1:34:29
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they're doubling down on all the things that has them lagging in the polling.
• 1:34:36
  SPEAKER_06: Flanagan held an event at a gas station in Brooklyn Park yesterday.
• 1:34:40
  SPEAKER_06: Apparently, not one that had a shooting.
• 1:34:44
  SPEAKER_06: It was with the Minnesota Farmers Union president at Gary Wertisch to draw attention to high fuel prices, though it hardly needed pointing out.
• 1:34:53
  SPEAKER_06: There's your bias in the reporting, by the way.
• 1:34:55
  SPEAKER_06: Let me read that again.
• 1:34:56
  SPEAKER_06: So they're talking in this piece about Michelle Tefoya, they get into what uh Peggy Flanagan was doing yesterday and saying that she was drawing attention to the high fuel prices, though it hardly needed pointing out.
• 1:35:06
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, okay.
• 1:35:08
  SPEAKER_06: Gas station signs are serving as a kind of campaign ad for Democrats across the uh country.
• 1:35:17
  SPEAKER_06: You know, it always speaks to that which the state media doesn't want to acknowledge.
• 1:35:21
  SPEAKER_06: Thune is right.
• 1:35:22
  SPEAKER_06: There are many important races, but Minnesota, again, would be a flip, and Tefoya is competitive even without the funding.
• 1:35:29
  SPEAKER_06: And it is damning how bad that Peggy Flanagan is performing as a candidate.
• 1:35:34
  SPEAKER_06: Breitbart has a piece up today, too.
• 1:35:36
  SPEAKER_06: A 2025 audit summary revealed widespread financial mismanagement in Minnesota Democrat Peggy Flanagan's office, including overpayments, illegal spending, and noncompliance.
• 1:35:49
  SPEAKER_06: So she may have an internal problem within her campaign right now.
• 1:35:56
  SPEAKER_06: The audit highlighted unresolved issues from a previous audit, including overpaid employees, misuse of state purchasing cards, and missing documentation for vendor payments.
• 1:36:07
  SPEAKER_06: So listen, you know, there may be trouble for Flanagan even within her own campaign right now.
• 1:36:14
  SPEAKER_06: Whoever is advising her wardrobe needs to be fired.
• 1:36:17
  SPEAKER_06: Listen, I am no stylist at all.
• 1:36:19
  SPEAKER_06: I've taken to the uh single-color bland shirts on the show to match the background colors that I change every day if you're watching on uh Facebook or uh YouTube.
• 1:36:30
  SPEAKER_06: So I am not a fashionista by any extent of the argument.
• 1:36:34
  SPEAKER_06: Meryl Streep and Devil Wells Prada would not be happy with me.
• 1:36:37
  SPEAKER_06: That being said, whatever clown outfit she was wearing during that latest campaign ad was bad, bad, bad.
• 1:36:43
  SPEAKER_32: Hey, John, if Minnesota doesn't go red or flip the Senate seat in the governorship this time around, with all of the fraud and all of the Somali problems and gang shootings and blah blah blah.
• 1:36:57
  SPEAKER_32: If they don't do it this go around, it will never happen.
• 1:37:02
  SPEAKER_32: Ever.
• 1:37:09
  SPEAKER_28: Come on, John.
• 1:37:10
  SPEAKER_28: I think I have an answer for you as to what Amy how much hard you know how in a wedding or a coronation you don't see the queen or the bride until the actual ceremony is ready to start.
• 1:37:24
  SPEAKER_28: We're not gonna see Amy until all the makeup's done and everything's prepared for the ceremony.
• 1:37:30
  SPEAKER_28: So uh please get off that whole topic.
• 1:37:33
  SPEAKER_28: Thank you.
• 1:37:34
  SPEAKER_06: Don't tell me what to do Wait, wait, is it do they make uh is there enough makeup?
• 1:37:42
  SPEAKER_06: Out of curiosity, just that was mean.
• 1:37:45
  SPEAKER_07: That was mean of me.
• 1:37:46
  SPEAKER_07: I shouldn't have done that.
• 1:37:48
  SPEAKER_07: Hey John, I remember as a kid reading a book called Where's Waldo.
• 1:37:53
  SPEAKER_07: Um, I think there's a new game in town called Where's Amy?
• 1:37:59
  SPEAKER_07: Calculator have today.
• 1:38:01
  SPEAKER_06: Guys, everybody's turning into comedians all of a sudden here.
• 1:38:03
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 1:38:03
  SPEAKER_06: What is what is what is going on?
• 1:38:05
  unknown: What is going on?
• 1:38:07
  SPEAKER_06: 651-964-0294.
• 1:38:11
  SPEAKER_06: Somebody uh texted in.
• 1:38:12
  SPEAKER_06: What does Brooklyn Center have to do with farmers?
• 1:38:16
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, she's at a gas station, so I guess.
• 1:38:20
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, I I guess that's the whole that's the whole point.
• 1:38:23
  SPEAKER_06: Uh somebody else just wrote in.
• 1:38:25
  SPEAKER_06: Uh new site, a yard sign coming.
• 1:38:27
  SPEAKER_06: Don't Minneapolis, my Eden Prairie.
• 1:38:30
  SPEAKER_06: It's on back order.
• 1:38:32
  SPEAKER_06: All right.
• 1:38:33
  SPEAKER_06: Keith Ellison, just exposed by CNN for taking lavish overseas trips paid for by corporate lobbyists.
• 1:38:40
  SPEAKER_06: So hat tip to both Becca Thompson and Dustin uh Gregie online for uh uh getting me uh this clip when I found it during my prep uh this morning.
• 1:38:52
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• 1:40:20
  SPEAKER_06: All right.
• 1:40:22
  SPEAKER_06: So Keith Ellison at a recent event was talking with CNN.
• 1:40:26
  SPEAKER_06: Rebecca Thompson wrote online uh Keith Ellison is by far the most influential person in the decline and destruction of Minneapolis.
• 1:40:36
  SPEAKER_06: Without question, if he loses the game, if he loses, the game changes and he knows it.
• 1:40:43
  SPEAKER_06: And here he is trying to explain that massive corporate interests are funding overseas trips for him to build partnerships because fentanyl.
• 1:40:52
  SPEAKER_06: Because fentanyl.
• 1:40:54
  SPEAKER_06: Because of fentanyl.
• 1:40:55
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you make it make sense.
• 1:40:57
  SPEAKER_06: And then when he realizes he actually didn't have a canned answer, writes Becca online, he immediately went on the offensive.
• 1:41:05
  SPEAKER_06: And when he finally cuts the interview off, he gives a sneer worthy of cheer moms, says Becca.
• 1:41:12
  SPEAKER_06: Here is the uh audio in the exchange between Attorney General Thief Ellison and the uh CNN journalist.
• 1:41:19
  SPEAKER_39: Yeah.
• 1:41:19
  SPEAKER_39: Ellison's office had not replied to our two emails asking about AGA trips.
• 1:41:25
  SPEAKER_40: Why go on intervention trips that are sponsored by Corporal Audience?
• 1:41:29
  SPEAKER_47: Well, uh, so the uh in the from Mexico, we have a large amount of fentanyl coming through.
• 1:41:36
  SPEAKER_47: There are a lot of international issues that we deal with every day alive.
• 1:41:39
  SPEAKER_39: Ellison did not mention South Africa or France in our discussion.
• 1:41:43
  SPEAKER_47: I mean, I I understand how this game is played.
• 1:41:46
  SPEAKER_47: I mean, us uh reporters and politicians always say, oh, you went on a trip and it tried to embarrass the politician.
• 1:41:52
  SPEAKER_47: I understand that thing.
• 1:41:54
  SPEAKER_47: But I will say that there is real work that we're doing that is important for our constituents, and it has a lot to do with the fact that we live in a globalized world.
• 1:42:04
  SPEAKER_47: I get it.
• 1:42:06
  SPEAKER_47: I know where you're coming from, and and I'm just telling you that we have substantive programs, our constituents are disadvantaged if we are not having meaningful conversations with international partners.
• 1:42:19
  SPEAKER_47: I'd like to end the conversation right there.
• 1:42:22
  SPEAKER_47: Thank you.
• 1:42:23
  SPEAKER_06: I appreciate it.
• 1:42:24
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you.
• 1:42:26
  SPEAKER_06: He got caught.
• 1:42:27
  SPEAKER_06: He got caught.
• 1:42:28
  SPEAKER_06: He didn't have an answer.
• 1:42:29
  SPEAKER_06: Dude, just own it.
• 1:42:31
  SPEAKER_06: Just own it.
• 1:42:32
  SPEAKER_06: I'll go back to my clear and present danger analogy with Jack Ryan sitting there at the table with a Dunderhead-esque president talking about his ties to a guy that was involved in a drug hit, and he was unaware that the individual he'd been friends with, and they were talking about defusing the situation, and Jack Ryan's like, why?
• 1:42:56
  SPEAKER_06: It's like there's no point in going and you know, trying to defuse a bomb after it's gone off if people say that you're friends, you say yes.
• 1:43:03
  SPEAKER_06: We were just be honest, we were lifelong friends.
• 1:43:06
  SPEAKER_06: You were unaware of what was going on.
• 1:43:07
  SPEAKER_06: Don't give the media anywhere to go.
• 1:43:09
  SPEAKER_06: But Thief Ellison doesn't like to actually be called on the carpet for this stuff.
• 1:43:14
  SPEAKER_06: So instead of just saying, it's the nature of what I do, all the See, listen, I'll I'll tell you what the answer should have been.
• 1:43:20
  SPEAKER_06: I'll play uh this is uh John, I won't do uh justice, I'll do my real last name.
• 1:43:24
  SPEAKER_06: Uh John Lojudice, and I am the uh, although I never would get elected with that last name, by the way.
• 1:43:29
  SPEAKER_06: The yard signs would be entirely too long to have to get it to get it in there, right?
• 1:43:34
  SPEAKER_06: Uh so uh no, I'll go back to my name.
• 1:43:36
  SPEAKER_06: So John Justice, I'm attorney general, and uh CNN corners me and says, Hey, uh, you know what?
• 1:43:41
  SPEAKER_06: Why are you taking uh these uh these trips, uh, these massive uh these massive trips overseas?
• 1:43:48
  SPEAKER_06: To which I would say, well, you know, this happens within all attorney generals' office.
• 1:43:53
  SPEAKER_06: We have opportunities to uh work and uh network overseas with various different corporate interests that have a benefit here to uh Minnesota.
• 1:44:03
  SPEAKER_06: And so therefore, I'm not alone in this.
• 1:44:05
  SPEAKER_06: We often go and take trips to other locations uh overseas to build those partnerships and relationships.
• 1:44:12
  SPEAKER_06: You know, when it comes to our economy, it is focused here in Minnesota, but we also look globally at what gets imported here to Minnesota, and it's important on a number of different ways to go and make sure that we have face-to-face meetings with individuals who, outside of Minnesota, have a vested interest in what happens at Minnesota.
• 1:44:30
  SPEAKER_06: Ta-da! Look at that.
• 1:44:33
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you.
• 1:44:34
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you.
• 1:44:34
  SPEAKER_06: I'll be here all morning.
• 1:44:35
  SPEAKER_06: Well, at least till nine o'clock today.
• 1:44:37
  SPEAKER_06: Nope.
• 1:44:37
  SPEAKER_06: Keith Ellison, unfortunately, um, doesn't have that kind of skill.
• 1:44:41
  SPEAKER_06: Or I should say more specifically, he's just not honest enough to actually go and tell the truth, in my opinion.
• 1:44:47
  SPEAKER_20: Our whole political system has turned into a complete joke.
• 1:44:50
  SPEAKER_20: We can't even get Democrats to debate, and Democrat voters don't seem to have a problem with that whatsoever.
• 1:44:56
  SPEAKER_20: And this complaint over gas prices is if Biden doesn't have gas prices too, and Democrats are running on gas prices that they supported being a high when Trump wasn't in office.
• 1:45:08
  SPEAKER_20: Democrat voters don't seem to care about that either.
• 1:45:11
  SPEAKER_20: You know, this administration could reduce the cost of fuel right now.
• 1:45:17
  SPEAKER_20: By stopping some of these gas taxes, if not even just eliminating them altogether to bring the price down at the pump for people and show what they're willing to do, but that's not gonna happen either.
• 1:45:27
  SPEAKER_06: Well, apparently Trump made a um uh Trump made uh comment last night during uh a rally during his midterm blitz talking about they were making a change at the federal level to bring down as best they could, because it's tied to Ukraine and Russia, the diesel prices, because the diesel prices are ridiculous right now.
• 1:45:44
  SPEAKER_06: So Trump made an announcement last night that he was moving to try to uh use uh some change in federal law or rules to try to drive down the prices of uh of diesel.
• 1:45:54
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, I want to get to a clip.
• 1:45:56
  SPEAKER_06: They have a comment on Thief Ellison, but I also had a request to play it again.
• 1:45:59
  SPEAKER_06: So, again, this is uh CNN interviewing Attorney General Ellison, asking about these lavish over uh uh overseas trips, and he just kind of fumbles his way through an answer.
• 1:46:08
  SPEAKER_06: Lands on Mexico, not focusing on the places that CNN was actually talking about him traveling uh to before he then attempts to weasel his way out of the interview.
• 1:46:20
  SPEAKER_39: Yeah.
• 1:46:21
  SPEAKER_39: Ellison's office had not replied to our two emails asking about AGA trips.
• 1:46:26
  SPEAKER_40: Why go on intervention trips that are sponsored by Courtney Lobby?
• 1:46:31
  SPEAKER_47: Well, uh, so the uh in the from Mexico, we have a large amount of fentanyl coming through.
• 1:46:37
  SPEAKER_47: There are a lot of international issues that we deal with every day.
• 1:46:40
  SPEAKER_39: Ellison did not mention South Africa or France in our discussion.
• 1:46:45
  SPEAKER_47: I mean, I I understand how this game is played.
• 1:46:48
  SPEAKER_47: I mean, us uh reporters and politicians always say, oh, you went on a trip and it tried to embarrass the politician.
• 1:46:53
  SPEAKER_47: I understand that thing.
• 1:46:55
  SPEAKER_06: But I will say that there is real work that we're doing that is important for our And by the way, don't get don't ever give me this garbage about Trump being insulting to the media.
• 1:47:05
  SPEAKER_06: That was so insulting to that reporter.
• 1:47:07
  SPEAKER_06: I get how this is I get how this is played.
• 1:47:10
  SPEAKER_06: Us politicians and reporters, you know, you try to go and get you know, get the candidates to get the guy sitting in office.
• 1:47:18
  SPEAKER_06: No, as a matter of fact, what you're seeing is the example of that not happening because of attorney general thief Ellison's inability to give a straight-up answer to this question.
• 1:47:28
  SPEAKER_06: It tells you how biased it is that in the face of one reporter who sent multiple emails, got no response, and so asked him face to face, and it's a bridge too far for the little man to handle.
• 1:47:39
  SPEAKER_47: The constituents, and it has a lot to do with the fact that we live in a globalized world.
• 1:47:44
  SPEAKER_47: Well, I get it.
• 1:47:47
  SPEAKER_47: I know where you're coming from, and and I'm just telling you that we have substantive programs, our constituents are at a disadvantage if we are not having meaningful conversations with international partners.
• 1:48:01
  SPEAKER_47: I'd like to end the conversation right there.
• 1:48:03
  SPEAKER_47: Thank you.
• 1:48:04
  SPEAKER_47: Why I appreciate it.
• 1:48:06
  SPEAKER_06: You landed, he finally landed like on a decent answer at the end, and then he was like, No, I'm out.
• 1:48:11
  SPEAKER_33: Coward.
• 1:48:12
  SPEAKER_33: Good morning, John Paul from Brooklyn Park.
• 1:48:15
  SPEAKER_33: So if CNN, who's friendly to the Democrat Party, is putting stuff out there to make Keith Ellison look like a tool, that feels like somebody up above him said, This guy is poisoned.
• 1:48:29
  SPEAKER_33: Put some stuff out there, we need to get rid of him.
• 1:48:32
  SPEAKER_33: He's gonna he's gonna drag you stall down with him.
• 1:48:36
  SPEAKER_33: Just a theory, but they started to do that kind of stuff with Swalwell.
• 1:48:40
  SPEAKER_33: They they do it anytime they kill somebody's gonna kill the party flat or well, I know I you know you're there there's truth to what you're saying.
• 1:48:47
  SPEAKER_06: I think that it goes back to uh and thank you for the comment.
• 1:48:49
  SPEAKER_06: I think it goes back to what closer to what I was talking about earlier in the hour, and that is that they see the polling.
• 1:48:57
  SPEAKER_06: Ellison is down in the is down in the polls, and so because of that, they are you know going and asking more straightforward questions of him.
• 1:49:05
  SPEAKER_06: He's kind of wounded, and because he's wounded, they are.
• 1:49:08
  SPEAKER_06: They're asking the tough questions in the middle of when he's wounded.
• 1:49:11
  SPEAKER_06: Let's go here.
• 1:49:12
  SPEAKER_29: Hey, John, great show.
• 1:49:13
  SPEAKER_29: Along the lines of our politicians taking trips.
• 1:49:16
  SPEAKER_29: Um, Governor Dim Walls also took a trip to Iceland and Norway and some of the Nordic countries on September 27th, was gone for a week, claiming to shore up our business climate, touting our wonderful business climate here in Minnesota.
• 1:49:30
  SPEAKER_29: I'm just curious as to uh what kind of hotels he stayed at while he was there.
• 1:49:34
  SPEAKER_29: Anyways, sounds like a last-minute junket on our our dime.
• 1:49:38
  SPEAKER_29: Thank you.
• 1:49:39
  SPEAKER_05: Got a uh a couple of texts that rolled in.
• 1:49:41
  SPEAKER_05: Somebody said, How did uh Ellison ever pass the bar?
• 1:49:45
  SPEAKER_06: It's a good question.
• 1:49:46
  SPEAKER_06: Listen, the man's not dumb.
• 1:49:49
  SPEAKER_06: I mean he's a communist, but he's not dumb.
• 1:49:53
  SPEAKER_06: Uh let's see.
• 1:49:54
  SPEAKER_06: Uh what does Brooklyn Center have to do with farmers?
• 1:49:56
  SPEAKER_06: Somebody had oh, this is the same person that written me earlier.
• 1:49:59
  SPEAKER_06: They also said, has Ellison never heard of Skype or Zoom?
• 1:50:01
  SPEAKER_06: Well, Skype isn't no longer around anymore.
• 1:50:03
  SPEAKER_06: So Skype went Skype went away.
• 1:50:06
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't think we had an issue coming across the border now.
• 1:50:11
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's a really good that's a good comment.
• 1:50:14
  SPEAKER_05: Thank you for that.
• 1:50:16
  SPEAKER_35: Ellison just said the obvious thing out loud in the interview.
• 1:50:20
  SPEAKER_35: He's a politician.
• 1:50:21
  SPEAKER_35: No, you're not.
• 1:50:22
  SPEAKER_35: You're the attorney general.
• 1:50:23
  SPEAKER_35: He's supposed to be working for the politician.
• 1:50:26
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah.
• 1:50:27
  SPEAKER_35: You left that when you left Congress.
• 1:50:28
  SPEAKER_35: Yeah.
• 1:50:29
  SPEAKER_35: He's still living the life of a politician.
• 1:50:33
  SPEAKER_06: That was a mic drop comment from the friend of the show on the blaster line, 651-964-0294.
• 1:50:39
  SPEAKER_06: Now give credit where credit's due.
• 1:50:41
  SPEAKER_06: Thief Ellison did sit down with Ron Schutz.
• 1:50:44
  SPEAKER_06: They had a debate MPR on Friday before shots rang out.
• 1:50:48
  SPEAKER_06: We'll talk about that next hour.
• 1:50:50
  SPEAKER_06: Republican Ron Schutz has said if he's elected as Minnesota Attorney General, he would give up control of his vast stock portfolio and divest from any companies that are currently in litigation with the state.
• 1:51:03
  SPEAKER_06: He made the comment during the debate with Ellison on Friday, days after the Minnesota Reformer reported on the potential conflicts of interest presented by his 174 individual stock holdings.
• 1:51:16
  SPEAKER_06: He says I will divest any stocks that I currently own from companies that are in litigation with the state.
• 1:51:23
  SPEAKER_06: I will put the rest of it in a vehicle that I won't have any insight into, noting that his portfolio is already professionally managed by RBC Wealth Management.
• 1:51:34
  SPEAKER_06: During the debate, Ellison and Schutz also took questions from Brian Basque on fraud, the Trump uh administration pardons and prediction markets.
• 1:51:43
  SPEAKER_06: And so they were trying to uh to make something out of this, these stocks that uh Ron Schutz had, and he, you know, immediately handled it, said, I'll you know, I'll move away so there's no conflict of interest.
• 1:51:55
  SPEAKER_06: Easy breezy, all said and done.
• 1:51:58
  SPEAKER_06: You know, he didn't hear a lot of coverage over, and I know it's a different type of cash, but be that as it may.
• 1:52:03
  SPEAKER_06: Bill Gwan last week had a piece at AmericanExperiment.org.
• 1:52:09
  SPEAKER_06: A Soros-funded Democracy Pack 2 donated$600,000 to the Minnesota Democrat Party, while Jonathan Soros donated to Amy Klobuchar's campaign.
• 1:52:23
  SPEAKER_06: The PAC for Minnesota's future, funded by Sarah Q O'Neill, donated over$460,000 to Minnesota Democrat Party units.
• 1:52:33
  SPEAKER_06: Reed Hoffman, a billionaire with ties to Jeffrey Epstein, donated$1 million to the Governor's Association with supports Klobichar's campaign.
• 1:52:44
  SPEAKER_06: No concern about this.
• 1:52:45
  SPEAKER_06: And it has all of the all of the progressive faux of the show red meats in here.
• 1:52:52
  SPEAKER_06: You got Epstein, you got Soros, you got Clobichar.
• 1:52:56
  SPEAKER_06: Jonathan Soros, along with his wife Jennifer, each donated the maximum$2,500 to the reelection campaign of Attorney General Keith Ellison,$10,000 each to something called the PAC for Minnesota's future, which is naturally based in Washington, D.C., writes Bill Glawan.
• 1:53:12
  SPEAKER_06: The PAC in turn is donated, like I mentioned,$460,000 to Minnesota Democrat Party units this cycle.
• 1:53:18
  SPEAKER_06: In its most two campaign finance disclosures, speaking of the PAC, it listed a$4 million donation from Sarah Q.
• 1:53:26
  SPEAKER_06: O'Neill of New York City.
• 1:53:28
  SPEAKER_06: There is a prolific Democratic donor by that name, but a single donation listed at any size may be carrying an extra zero or two beyond what was actually given.
• 1:53:42
  SPEAKER_06: Bill Glong goes on to say my vote for the single most disturbing caste donation to Minnesota politics this cycle is the$1 million given by LinkedIn co-founder Reed Hoffman to the Democrat Governors Association Victory Pact Fund.
• 1:53:56
  SPEAKER_06: The DGA, of course, is backing Clobishar for governor this year and has given the maximum$4,000 directly to her campaign and another$300,000 to the Democrat Party this year.
• 1:54:08
  SPEAKER_06: Now, Hoffman is a multi-billionaire in his own right and lists a San Francisco P.O.
• 1:54:13
  SPEAKER_06: box as his address.
• 1:54:14
  SPEAKER_06: Hoffman is closely tied to the now deceased financier Jeffrey Epstein.
• 1:54:19
  SPEAKER_06: NBC News reported that the latest Epstein files released, rattled Silicon Valley, saying Hoffman's ties to Epstein have been revealed in earlier release of files.
• 1:54:30
  SPEAKER_06: In 2023, the Wall Street Journal reported that Hoffman visited Epstein Island and introduced Epstein to Thiel.
• 1:54:37
  SPEAKER_06: Hoffman and Epstein shared an interest in the crypto cryptocurrency and appeared to have a close relationship with Epstein, writing in an email exchange with Hoffman that he missed talking and seeing him.
• 1:54:49
  SPEAKER_06: The Hoffman visit to Epstein Island appears to have occurred in 2014, years after the 2028 state felony convictions.
• 1:54:57
  SPEAKER_06: Yet his campaign donations are still welcome.
• 1:55:00
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:55:03
  SPEAKER_06: You know, it's funny when people want to go and, you know, do the Epstein and Trump and pedophile and all that nonsense garbage, when you have the actual individuals who are directly associated and the documented proof, they don't talk about that nearly, nearly as much, do they?
• 1:55:15
  SPEAKER_06: No, of course they don't.
• 1:55:17
  SPEAKER_06: 651 at 964-0294.
• 1:55:21
  SPEAKER_06: 651 at 964-0294.
• 1:55:23
  SPEAKER_06: All right, let's get back to uh some of uh your thoughts from the uh blaster line uh this morning.
• 1:55:30
  SPEAKER_19: From what I can tell, Minnesota law does not require our attorney general to be a member of the bar.
• 1:55:38
  unknown: Yep.
• 1:55:38
  SPEAKER_19: Nor even a licensed attorney.
• 1:55:41
  SPEAKER_19: So whoever mentioned that that you live in Minnesota, being an actual attorney doesn't matter here.
• 1:55:52
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and I'm glad that you brought that up.
• 1:55:53
  SPEAKER_06: It's something that we've talked about before on the show, and I thought that was the case, but I didn't want to misspeak.
• 1:55:57
  SPEAKER_06: So I made a prediction, uh, by the way, and it was true.
• 1:56:02
  SPEAKER_06: So I think it was last week or the week before.
• 1:56:04
  SPEAKER_06: I made a true prediction.
• 1:56:06
  SPEAKER_06: That was really arrogant of me.
• 1:56:07
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't mean for it to sound that way.
• 1:56:08
  SPEAKER_06: So we had the announcement of those eight or nine individuals that were charged with fraud.
• 1:56:13
  SPEAKER_06: Keith Ellison came out, held a press conference yesterday uh last week.
• 1:56:16
  SPEAKER_06: Like I said, it might have been the week before.
• 1:56:18
  SPEAKER_06: And I there were some 220 open cases still in the attorney general's office.
• 1:56:23
  SPEAKER_06: And I commented that I bet I said, I bet you're gonna see a lot of these types of announcements over the next few weeks while he tries to shore up his failing polling numbers.
• 1:56:34
  SPEAKER_06: Well, case in point, Minnesota AG sues Refocus Recovery, alleged sham nonprofit funneled Medicaid money to nonprofit Kairos.
• 1:56:45
  SPEAKER_06: Called it.
• 1:56:46
  SPEAKER_06: Suddenly, the Minnesota Attorney General Ellison is suddenly charging and suing fraudsters.
• 1:56:50
  SPEAKER_06: He filed the lawsuit against refocus recovery and its founder, Daniel Larson, alleged the nonprofit was a sham used to funnel Medicaid money to Larson's profit company, Kairos.
• 1:57:02
  SPEAKER_06: The lawsuit cites a care 11 investigation that exposed the improper relationship between the two companies, including allegations of fraudulent building, uh billing and Larson's violation of fudiciary duties.
• 1:57:15
  SPEAKER_06: The Attorney General seeks to dissolve, refocus, distribute its assets, and impose penalties on Larson.
• 1:57:21
  SPEAKER_06: So listen, it's good this company should be held accountable if they've gone and broken the law, the law and they're taking part in fraudulent uh activity, but it all certainly is suspect.
• 1:57:31
  SPEAKER_06: How long has this investigation been going on?
• 1:57:34
  SPEAKER_06: Kara Levin had to do the initial investigation.
• 1:57:36
  SPEAKER_06: Was Ellison even interested in going and charging these individuals up until right now, weeks out before this election?
• 1:57:45
  SPEAKER_06: And it speaks to why this was allowed to happen in the first place and why it wasn't stopped when the red flags went up when it comes to the increased funding from all of these service providers that are requesting money from the state coming in, your tax dollars, some of it federal money as well.
• 1:58:04
  SPEAKER_06: So yeah, and I would expect this will continue.
• 1:58:06
  SPEAKER_06: You will see more charges, you will see more individuals who are being talked about, being investigated or charged by the Attorney General in the weeks to come, all because of the election.
• 1:58:20
  SPEAKER_06: If the election wasn't going on, I bet these people wouldn't even be held accountable.
• 1:58:24
  SPEAKER_06: All right, 651-964-0294.
• 1:58:27
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, one more election-related uh item before we get into the third hour of the show today, and we dive into why my phone exploded overnight with text messages because one of the staff here at American Experiment happened to be nearby yet another Somali gang-related shooting, according to law enforcement, this time taking place at a gas station.
• 1:58:47
  SPEAKER_06: And we'll get into the commentary.
• 1:58:48
  SPEAKER_06: The Eden Prairie Superintendent slamming the anti-Somali hate after homecoming shooting.
• 1:58:54
  SPEAKER_06: They're more concerned about the way that it's being talked about than going and addressing the actual root problems that we're dealing with right now and how this gang violence is dovetailing out of the metro.
• 1:59:04
  SPEAKER_06: I actually have some commentary that we will uh share.
• 1:59:07
  SPEAKER_06: Uh actually, I'll do that.
• 1:59:08
  SPEAKER_06: Go, I'll go ahead and do that.
• 1:59:09
  SPEAKER_06: Uh no, I'll save it.
• 1:59:10
  SPEAKER_06: I'll save it.
• 1:59:11
  SPEAKER_06: I'm getting ahead of myself.
• 1:59:12
  SPEAKER_06: So that's all coming up on the show, but let's go ahead and wrap up this hour with this.
• 1:59:17
  SPEAKER_06: I've had this for a few days and now we have the official story on it.
• 1:59:21
  SPEAKER_06: So Max Glenna, not Reimer, this is an individual running for the Minnesota Senate, not Max, who's a representative.
• 1:59:30
  SPEAKER_06: Just want to point that out.
• 1:59:32
  SPEAKER_06: Max Glenna, a DFL candidate for Minnesota Senate, has suspended his campaign.
• 1:59:36
  SPEAKER_06: Oh no, after a former classmate accused him of sending an unsolicited explicit photo.
• 1:59:45
  SPEAKER_06: I believe it was a uh a D uh it was a D-pick.
• 1:59:49
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:59:52
  SPEAKER_06: Never understood that.
• 1:59:53
  SPEAKER_05: Like I don't know what guy.
• 1:59:55
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, listen, I'm a guy.
• 1:59:57
  SPEAKER_06: Right?
• 1:59:59
  SPEAKER_06: That being said, what an odd thing to do.
• 2:00:02
  SPEAKER_06: I just it seems very odd.
• 2:00:03
  SPEAKER_06: Anyway, the classmate, Ashley Bronson, publicly shared a screenshot of their conversation where Glenna apologized for the incident.
• 2:00:12
  SPEAKER_06: Bronson questioned Glenna's judgment and suitability for office, leading to the suspension of his campaign.
• 2:00:18
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, what's uh comical about this uh situation, obviously horrific for Ashley Bronson, was the facts uh the fact that uh Max Glenna had gone online and posted videos over uh his you know concern about Republicans protecting pedophiles, and yet in the midst of all of this, he's sending explicit photos to women.
• 2:00:43
  SPEAKER_04: This is why I am never voting Republican.
• 2:00:47
  SPEAKER_04: So I grew up conservative, and many of my friends and family are conservative.
• 2:00:52
  SPEAKER_04: I know that Minnesota conservatives have a strong sense of justice and morals, but in terms of politicians, I am never voting Republican because the Republican Party is protecting pedophiles.
• 2:01:07
  SPEAKER_06: Glenna was running for Senate uh District 28, which covers portions, uh portions of Chisago and Asante counties, against incumbent uh Senator Mark Heran, a friend of the show.
• 2:01:20
  SPEAKER_06: Bronson said that she attended school with Glenna from kindergarten through graduation, but the two weren't in the same friend group and rarely spoke.
• 2:01:28
  SPEAKER_06: However, it appears it didn't stop Glenna from popping up on her Snapchat in 2024.
• 2:01:34
  SPEAKER_06: I can't say that I know a whole lot in the game of politics, but I do know, writes Bronson, that he sent me an unsolicited D picture in 2024 via Snapchat.
• 2:01:45
  SPEAKER_06: No conversation before, just a picture.
• 2:01:48
  SPEAKER_06: Why would you why?
• 2:01:52
  SPEAKER_06: Bronson apparently confronted Glenna afterwards on Facebook Messenger and publicly posted a screenshot of their conversation.
• 2:01:58
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, do you want to give me any sort of explanation as to why you sent me this unsolicited, unsolicited D pick today?
• 2:02:05
  SPEAKER_06: You are aware that I'm married, right?
• 2:02:08
  SPEAKER_06: An account bearing Glenna's name responded the next morning, according to the article I'm working off of here from uh Alpha News.
• 2:02:15
  SPEAKER_06: Uh sorry, no, I didn't know that.
• 2:02:18
  SPEAKER_06: I shouldn't have sent you uh sent you it in the first place, but knowing you're married absolutely would have stopped me.
• 2:02:24
  SPEAKER_06: Bronson responded uh responded that her marital status wasn't the point.
• 2:02:28
  SPEAKER_06: It shouldn't matter if I'm married or not.
• 2:02:30
  SPEAKER_06: You shouldn't send it unless it's requested.
• 2:02:33
  SPEAKER_06: P.S.
• 2:02:34
  SPEAKER_06: girls hate that blank.
• 2:02:35
  SPEAKER_06: Knock it off.
• 2:02:36
  SPEAKER_06: The account apologized again.
• 2:02:38
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that has become clear to me.
• 2:02:40
  SPEAKER_06: I made a wrong decision.
• 2:02:42
  SPEAKER_06: I'm sorry again for the undeserved stress due to my actions, Ashley.
• 2:02:48
  SPEAKER_06: Regular people who know uh who uh know we can do better.
• 2:02:52
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Glenay introduced himself to voters earlier this year as a Schaefer native, uh Shysago Lakes high school graduate, an engineer with no political background.
• 2:03:01
  SPEAKER_06: I'm running because I'm sick and tired of politics, he said.
• 2:03:04
  SPEAKER_06: He said he was running to lower property taxes and increase estate funding for schools and counties.
• 2:03:09
  SPEAKER_06: Looks like that wasn't the only thing he was trying to increase.
• 2:03:15
  SPEAKER_06: I'm tired.
• 2:03:16
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I'm a guy who's tired of watching our problems get ignored, and I'm willing to work hard to fix them.
• 2:03:23
  SPEAKER_06: Maybe he's just trying to help the girl out.
• 2:03:25
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 2:03:25
  SPEAKER_06: He closed his pitch by saying problems are fixed by regular people who know we can do better.
• 2:03:31
  SPEAKER_06: After Bronson spotted uh Glenn's campaign billboard on Forest Lake, she decided to tell voters about their 2024 exchange.
• 2:03:38
  SPEAKER_06: Again, adding, I might not know a lot about politics, but I do know that he had the ability to not send it and still chose to do so.
• 2:03:46
  SPEAKER_06: Do we really need another man that doesn't know right from wrong, especially in con uh in consent?
• 2:03:52
  SPEAKER_06: Running for office, I'll let you be the judge of that.
• 2:03:56
  SPEAKER_06: So he has gone and uh suspended uh his campaign.
• 2:03:59
  SPEAKER_06: But remember, he had his own consensus.
• 2:04:01
  SPEAKER_04: This is why I am never voting Republican.
• 2:04:05
  SPEAKER_04: So I grew up conservative, and many of my friends and family are conservative.
• 2:04:10
  SPEAKER_04: I know that Minnesota conservatives have a strong sense of justice and morals, but in terms of politicians, I am never voting Republican.
• 2:04:20
  SPEAKER_04: Because the Republican Party is protecting pedophiles.
• 2:04:50
  SPEAKER_06: You know what it is?
• 2:04:51
  SPEAKER_06: I'm locked into I'm locked into the same schedule after years upon years of being uh grilled into having to follow a clock.
• 2:05:04
  SPEAKER_06: Sometimes you just can't get out of it, and I'm such a creature of habit, which is why so often the hours start later, because typically that's what happened.
• 2:05:10
  SPEAKER_06: The show used to not start until after 6 a.m.
• 2:05:13
  SPEAKER_06: about six after, and even when you get to the spots, it was the same thing.
• 2:05:15
  SPEAKER_06: I try to get the show right to the top of the hour now with the changes, but alas, my internal clock, while the circadian rhythm that most of us have got nuked years ago, my internal clock is still adhering to the uh typical radio clock.
• 2:05:31
  SPEAKER_06: So there you go.
• 2:05:33
  SPEAKER_06: And uh, you know, uh with that as well.
• 2:05:35
  SPEAKER_50: Fascinating to talk to.
• 2:05:37
  SPEAKER_06: I woke up with the alarm this morning only because of the night gummies from Mini Leaf, but I woke up to a slew of text messages from staff members here at American Experiment.
• 2:05:47
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• 2:05:50
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• 2:06:00
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• 2:06:03
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• 2:06:10
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• 2:06:39
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• 2:06:45
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• 2:06:50
  SPEAKER_35: The Somali Gang shootings are nothing new to us in the South Metro.
• 2:06:53
  SPEAKER_35: They've been going on for years, where they shoot at each other and then they go to another community and retaliate back and forth and back and forth.
• 2:07:04
  SPEAKER_35: Carrie Morgiardi getting on the news saying there is no roving Somali gang problem and letting other violent criminals out or letting them out of prison.
• 2:07:15
  SPEAKER_35: She is supporting the criminal empire.
• 2:07:26
  SPEAKER_35: She is involved in the criminal activity by supporting these.
• 2:07:30
  SPEAKER_35: So at some point, we have to get something involved because she is just a disaster.
• 2:07:34
  SPEAKER_35: We've known that.
• 2:07:36
  SPEAKER_35: But is coming forth?
• 2:07:37
  SPEAKER_35: She is publicly sticking her face in front of the cameras, just supporting criminal activity.
• 2:07:44
  SPEAKER_35: Hopefully, the DOJ will get something done against her.
• 2:07:47
  SPEAKER_35: Have a great week, people.
• 2:07:49
  SPEAKER_38: There are no roving gangs of Somali people in this community harassing, threatening, doing anything to any of our community members.
• 2:08:00
  SPEAKER_38: And let me repeat that again because I've heard this often.
• 2:08:03
  SPEAKER_38: There are no roving gangs of Somalis targeting or harassing or doing anything inappropriate to any community members.
• 2:08:12
  SPEAKER_38: Those are simply lies.
• 2:08:14
  SPEAKER_38: It is not true.
• 2:08:16
  SPEAKER_06: Shots were fired at a gas station near Eden Prairie High School days after the shooting at a homecoming football game.
• 2:08:44
  SPEAKER_06: And a lot of people have asked when that comment was made.
• 2:08:47
  SPEAKER_06: It doesn't matter when that comment was made.
• 2:08:49
  SPEAKER_06: That comment was made in light of previous Somali gang activity where she went and made a comment like that.
• 2:08:58
  SPEAKER_06: And yet it aged like milk sitting out in the sun for crying out loud.
• 2:09:03
  SPEAKER_06: I woke up last night to the, or I should say this morning.
• 2:09:06
  SPEAKER_06: It's still dark outside, 2 30.
• 2:09:08
  SPEAKER_06: I woke up this morning to a slew of text messages.
• 2:09:11
  SPEAKER_06: The group chat that I'm on with uh fellows here, uh staff at American Experiment, along with the Freedom Friday group.
• 2:09:19
  SPEAKER_06: One of the individuals had written, I was playing a softball, I was playing softball at Round Lake by Eden Prairie High School, had to cut the game short because there were gunshots like in the neighborhood behind us, a dozen shots fired off.
• 2:09:31
  SPEAKER_06: There was a shootout at the gas station across the street.
• 2:09:33
  SPEAKER_06: A ton of comps are now arresting somebody.
• 2:09:36
  SPEAKER_06: Insanely scary.
• 2:09:38
  SPEAKER_06: Bill Glaun went and reported along with the photographs that were taken at the at the scene.
• 2:09:46
  SPEAKER_06: This is insane.
• 2:09:48
  SPEAKER_06: This is stuff that used to be just in the metro area, slightly outside of the boundaries, and it's spreading now like a cancer across the suburbs.
• 2:10:02
  SPEAKER_06: Nobody was injured after the shots were fired Monday night at a gas station just down the road from Eden Prairie High School.
• 2:10:08
  SPEAKER_06: I'm working off the story here from Channel 5.
• 2:10:10
  SPEAKER_06: Channel 5, by the way.
• 2:10:11
  SPEAKER_06: Somali gang activity.
• 2:10:13
  SPEAKER_06: Somali gang activity right there.
• 2:10:14
  SPEAKER_06: I'm looking at it right there.
• 2:10:15
  SPEAKER_06: Channel 5.
• 2:10:16
  SPEAKER_06: According to authorities.
• 2:10:17
  SPEAKER_38: There are no roving gangs of Somali people in this community harassing, threatening, doing anything to any of our community members.
• 2:10:30
  SPEAKER_05: Some of the staff here at American Experiment would like to have a word.
• 2:10:34
  SPEAKER_06: Eden Prairie said no one was injured.
• 2:10:36
  SPEAKER_06: Four people have been detained.
• 2:10:37
  SPEAKER_06: Authorities continue to investigate the incident that comes days after two teenagers were injured in a shooting during Eden Prairie's homecoming football game on Friday.
• 2:11:04
  SPEAKER_09: All right, here on the Lake Conference Network.
• 2:11:09
  SPEAKER_09: We are evacuating the stadium, and the teams, as you can see, are quickly leaving the field.
• 2:11:16
  SPEAKER_09: And we do not know anything else other than that.
• 2:11:19
  SPEAKER_09: So that's the situation here at Eden Prairie.
• 2:11:23
  SPEAKER_09: With the score at 2114.
• 2:11:36
  SPEAKER_09: So this game is going to be paused here right now, 2114, and we'll step out on the late conference network.
• 2:11:46
  SPEAKER_06: To any young person listening to the show right now, who's been who's gone through high school, you know, I'll speak to my, you know, I'll I'll speak this to my to my sons.
• 2:12:03
  SPEAKER_06: It wasn't like this.
• 2:12:05
  SPEAKER_06: It wasn't like this.
• 2:12:07
  SPEAKER_06: You had events, tragic events that took place in schools, school shootings going back to the 90s, you know, Columbine comes to mind, right?
• 2:12:18
  SPEAKER_06: But I can tell you that school in high school, while you have the difficulties that you have that typical youth deal with, and that's the point that I want to make.
• 2:12:30
  SPEAKER_06: It's already hard to be a young person in life in general.
• 2:12:35
  SPEAKER_06: It's already difficult with all kinds of societal things you have to deal with, relationships, friends, all of that.
• 2:12:43
  SPEAKER_06: You're finding your way.
• 2:12:44
  SPEAKER_06: Your brains aren't developed yet.
• 2:12:47
  SPEAKER_06: You're in learning institutions, you're seeking identity.
• 2:12:52
  SPEAKER_06: And the way that it is right now isn't the way that it should be, and it's not the way that it used to be.
• 2:12:59
  SPEAKER_06: I see these videos online.
• 2:13:01
  SPEAKER_06: Um they're, you know, VHS, they're transferred over footage of individuals who had VHS video cameras.
• 2:13:09
  SPEAKER_06: And there was a there was a time in the in the late 80s, heading into the 90s, these be you know, became more readily available, they were cheaper.
• 2:13:16
  SPEAKER_06: You still had the big, huge cassette tapes in them and all this.
• 2:13:19
  SPEAKER_06: But you look at high uh look at life inside of the of the high schools back then, and you can just see the difference.
• 2:13:25
  SPEAKER_06: You can see the difference in the in the students' faces, uh in their demeanor, the way they're interacting with one another.
• 2:13:33
  SPEAKER_06: You know, our young people here in this country already went through hell and back through the COVID-19 pandemic.
• 2:13:42
  SPEAKER_06: And unfortunately, the leftists took full advantage of that as best they could during the time of the pandemic, which is why when I see these stories coming out of Russia about the potential of a plague breaking out, um, I opened the show with this, right?
• 2:13:58
  SPEAKER_06: It it does.
• 2:13:59
  SPEAKER_06: It it's concerning.
• 2:14:01
  SPEAKER_06: Now, there doesn't seem to be anything to worry about right now, but the thought of going through that again and what would happen, it's not the health issue that scares me.
• 2:14:09
  SPEAKER_06: No, it's the unintended consequences and how right now, which is even worse than it was in 2019 when COVID broke out.
• 2:14:17
  SPEAKER_06: You think the leftists took advantage of it back then?
• 2:14:22
  SPEAKER_06: Just wait until what they would do now with the global pandemic, for crying out loud.
• 2:14:25
  SPEAKER_06: Heaven forbid, if they happen to go and be in charge.
• 2:14:28
  SPEAKER_06: It's just it is a tragedy what's happening right now in our schools.
• 2:14:32
  SPEAKER_06: The education system is deplorable, and now violence is running rampant.
• 2:14:36
  SPEAKER_06: And what do you get in light of this?
• 2:14:37
  SPEAKER_06: The Eden Prairie Superintendent slams anti-Somali hate after homecoming shooting.
• 2:14:42
  SPEAKER_06: This Eden Prairie superintendent can suck it for all I care.
• 2:14:45
  SPEAKER_06: Give me a break already.
• 2:14:47
  SPEAKER_06: You got people being shot on your campus, and you're worried about how people are talking about it.
• 2:14:51
  SPEAKER_06: You're worried about words for crying out loud.
• 2:14:56
  SPEAKER_06: It's infuriating.
• 2:15:00
  SPEAKER_06: Absolutely infuriating.
• 2:15:04
  SPEAKER_06: An individual is out, a young person with other young people playing a softball game on a Monday night in an area that's supposed to be considered safe.
• 2:15:15
  SPEAKER_06: And they got to cancel it because of gunshots down the street at a gas station.
• 2:15:19
  SPEAKER_06: And what do you hear from mayors in positions of power to say that?
• 2:15:22
  SPEAKER_51: Without making it all about Somalis and how Somali gangs and Somali this and Somali that.
• 2:15:28
  SPEAKER_51: Again, a crime is a crime, is a crime, is a crime.
• 2:15:30
  SPEAKER_06: But what the rhetoric that's this is uh Mayor Nadia Mohammed.
• 2:15:37
  SPEAKER_06: She's not wrong.
• 2:15:38
  SPEAKER_06: A crime is a crime, it's a crime.
• 2:15:40
  SPEAKER_06: But the problem is we are not enforcing that crime the same way as that crime, the same way as that crime, and the same way as that crime based solely on the skin color of the individual who's doing the crime.
• 2:15:58
  SPEAKER_06: So she can talk about this equal playing field and holding people accountable.
• 2:16:02
  SPEAKER_06: If she takes it a step further here in a moment, you'll hear all she wants.
• 2:16:05
  SPEAKER_06: But there is a double standard and a bias in play right now that is keeping individuals who are committing acts of crime out on the street to commit more crime because they're not learning their lesson, because they're not being thrown behind bars like they should and being pulled off the street.
• 2:16:19
  SPEAKER_06: And at the same time, you have individuals, adults in leadership positions that are more worried about people and how they are talking about a situation.
• 2:16:28
  SPEAKER_06: You know that whole meme, that whole bit of we're talking practice.
• 2:16:32
  SPEAKER_06: Who is that guy?
• 2:16:33
  SPEAKER_06: Who is the practice guy, Devin?
• 2:16:34
  SPEAKER_06: I'm throwing Devin to the Alan Iverson.
• 2:16:36
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Alan Iverson.
• 2:16:37
  SPEAKER_06: We're talking about practice.
• 2:16:39
  SPEAKER_06: Practice.
• 2:16:41
  SPEAKER_06: That's a this is you're talking you're worried about how people are discussing it.
• 2:16:45
  SPEAKER_06: You're worried about how people are talking about it.
• 2:16:49
  SPEAKER_06: Individuals are being hit with bullets.
• 2:16:53
  SPEAKER_06: Heinous and sickening actions of a few do not define our entire community.
• 2:16:59
  SPEAKER_06: Maybe you should lead with the heinous and sickening actions and what you are going to do to address the problem of how the public education system in Minnesota is not providing any positive pathways for young Somali immigrants searching desperately for identity who are not being held accountable like the rest of the youth in our high schools, which is apparent in the lack of a quality education that they're receiving to wear in.
• 2:17:26
  SPEAKER_06: The only identity they can go and find is by joining gangs and getting involved in shootings at homecoming games.
• 2:17:35
  SPEAKER_06: Stripping away the innocence and what should be the formative lives and the memorable moments for these high schoolers for years to come, and they are being robbed because of politics.
• 2:17:49
  SPEAKER_06: They're being stripped away from the ability to grow up in a world and learn how to go and navigate that world and what the world just typically offers in terms of difficulties for young people.
• 2:18:05
  SPEAKER_06: It's already hard when it comes to clicks and bullying, jocks and the different groups that form and trying to be accepted by people.
• 2:18:16
  SPEAKER_06: It's already hard to be a kid.
• 2:18:19
  SPEAKER_06: It always has been and it always will be.
• 2:18:22
  SPEAKER_06: How much harder is it supposed to be and is it gonna get when they have to worry about getting shot?
• 2:18:29
  SPEAKER_06: When they can't even go and play a football game?
• 2:18:31
  SPEAKER_06: And what's the solution when it comes to leadership here in Minnesota?
• 2:18:39
  SPEAKER_51: So you may be wondering, hey Mayor, how can we solve for this then?
• 2:18:42
  SPEAKER_51: How can we have conversations that are effective that can actually get something done?
• 2:18:46
  SPEAKER_51: And the answer is easy.
• 2:18:47
  SPEAKER_51: Ban guns.
• 2:18:48
  SPEAKER_51: How are these 14-year-olds, 15-year-olds, 16-year-olds getting access to guns?
• 2:18:53
  SPEAKER_51: Like we are reeling year after year, year after year, month after month, shooting after shooting, shooting after shooting.
• 2:18:59
  SPEAKER_51: It is not good enough to point fingers anymore to pick on a community that's already reeling from previous rhetoric, anti-Somali rhetoric, is low-hanging fruit, right?
• 2:19:11
  SPEAKER_06: Give me a break.
• 2:19:13
  SPEAKER_06: Just get all right.
• 2:19:16
  SPEAKER_06: Let me get to some of your thoughts.
• 2:19:18
  SPEAKER_06: 651-964-0294.
• 2:19:21
  SPEAKER_20: The Somali mothers that are supposedly single are not single, they are single in the eyes of the welfare system.
• 2:19:29
  SPEAKER_20: But there is still a man in the lives of the women that practicing the same marriage rules that they do in Somalia.
• 2:19:37
  SPEAKER_20: They're just getting taxpayer-funded welfare distributed amongst all of their wives.
• 2:19:42
  SPEAKER_06: And I want to get into a little bit more of that because I did a bit of a deep dive on this issue.
• 2:19:48
  SPEAKER_06: Because I wanted to do, and again, this is not me.
• 2:19:53
  SPEAKER_06: I don't want to come off that way.
• 2:19:54
  SPEAKER_06: This is not me patting myself on the back at all.
• 2:19:56
  SPEAKER_06: This is me just doing my job.
• 2:19:58
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, this is not me, oh, I'm great.
• 2:20:00
  SPEAKER_06: I did research.
• 2:20:01
  SPEAKER_06: But it's true.
• 2:20:02
  SPEAKER_06: I'm doing more here than what other individuals are doing.
• 2:20:04
  SPEAKER_06: The Eden Prairie Superintendent.
• 2:20:07
  SPEAKER_06: Eden uh Edina leaders face questions, pushback after gun violence.
• 2:20:11
  SPEAKER_06: Edyna leaders held a community meeting to address the recent gun violence, according to Kara Levin, including the shootings at Yancey Park and Our Lady of Church Catholic Church.
• 2:20:21
  SPEAKER_06: The meeting attended by law enforcement officials focusing on identifying the perpetrators who are reportedly not from Edina and are involved in loosely organized groups, loosely organized groups.
• 2:20:32
  SPEAKER_06: While acknowledging the need to address the issue, community members emphasize the blaming of the Somali community is unfair and counterproductive.
• 2:20:39
  SPEAKER_06: I don't care how people are talking about it.
• 2:20:42
  SPEAKER_06: So what I did was I wanted to look what is driving Somali youth, immigrants, to go and get involved in gangs.
• 2:20:49
  SPEAKER_06: And I'll have some information to share with you coming up because it's rather revealing.
• 2:20:54
  SPEAKER_42: Good morning, John.
• 2:20:56
  SPEAKER_42: In regards to the gang uh activity being from Somalia's um Somalians, my theory is this since the programs that were instituted during the trifecta is pushing a lot more of um low-income housing into the suburbs.
• 2:21:15
  SPEAKER_42: Um it's been mandated and that's what's happening, and so it was with the intent of pushing um inner city mentalities out into the suburbs.
• 2:21:27
  SPEAKER_42: And in some ways, that's a that's a good thing because there are a lot of low-income people that really do want to get out of the city proper so that they can escape what's going on in there, and I understand that.
• 2:21:39
  SPEAKER_42: But then you've got the downside of it too.
• 2:21:42
  SPEAKER_42: You've got those that have nefarious ideals and um want to you know do what they're doing in Eden Prairie and grading that mentality and culture into the suburban areas.
• 2:22:00
  SPEAKER_32: Finally, John Con 5.
• 2:22:02
  SPEAKER_32: This is the passion we need from everybody.
• 2:22:05
  SPEAKER_32: It is infuriating.
• 2:22:08
  SPEAKER_32: Way to go, John.
• 2:22:09
  SPEAKER_32: I love it.
• 2:22:15
  SPEAKER_33: Good morning, John.
• 2:22:16
  SPEAKER_33: I watched that Udina streaming event on a community, you know, safety last night.
• 2:22:21
  SPEAKER_33: And there were there were a couple good points made, but a lot of it was just, you know, a lot of a lot of Somalis actually comes out and saying, We want your communities too, we also you know want the same thing, we want to be part of the community.
• 2:22:36
  SPEAKER_33: Why don't they call out their communities?
• 2:22:39
  SPEAKER_33: You don't your numbers aren't so great here that you don't know who's doing it.
• 2:22:43
  SPEAKER_33: There could you be accountability by saying, if you really want safety and you really want accountability, then give us give us your kids that are doing this.
• 2:22:53
  SPEAKER_33: Turn them in and you'll have a better community.
• 2:22:56
  SPEAKER_33: Thirty-five years ago, when the Somali people weren't here hardly at all, Somalis didn't shoot up Minnesota.
• 2:23:03
  SPEAKER_33: So there's that too.
• 2:23:04
  SPEAKER_33: Have a great day.
• 2:23:05
  SPEAKER_06: And it is not a thank you for the comment, and it is not a blanket condemnation on the entirety of the immigrant community, regardless of what immigrant community we're talking about.
• 2:23:16
  SPEAKER_06: It's not.
• 2:23:17
  SPEAKER_06: And people shouldn't go and do that.
• 2:23:19
  SPEAKER_06: But even if people are, so what?
• 2:23:22
  SPEAKER_06: So what?
• 2:23:25
  SPEAKER_06: It is asinine to me that any elected official would waste any amount of time trying to address this clearly rising problem being concerned about how other people are talking about it.
• 2:23:41
  SPEAKER_06: It's a default, it's an excuse.
• 2:23:44
  SPEAKER_06: It's a way to redirect the conversation because they do not care about solving the problem.
• 2:23:48
  SPEAKER_06: That's the issue.
• 2:23:49
  SPEAKER_06: They do not care.
• 2:23:50
  SPEAKER_06: They had they don't give a rip.
• 2:23:52
  SPEAKER_06: The banning guns things, that mayor knows it's never gonna happen.
• 2:23:56
  SPEAKER_06: It's a redirect because they know that this does not help them when it comes to this election.
• 2:24:01
  SPEAKER_06: That's it.
• 2:24:04
  SPEAKER_06: They don't care about solving the problem.
• 2:24:06
  SPEAKER_06: They don't care about improving test scores.
• 2:24:09
  SPEAKER_06: They don't care about turning down the violent rhetoric on their own.
• 2:24:14
  SPEAKER_06: No, it's all about what we can do to mitigate the damage that all of this rash of news is going to have on the candidates in these elections, wherein typically these DFL statewide races would be leaning towards DFLers.
• 2:24:30
  SPEAKER_06: And right now, all of them look to either have GOP lead leading or to be toss-ups or within striking distance.
• 2:24:39
  SPEAKER_06: To add to all of this, I just got a message regarding the shooting last night at the gas station.
• 2:24:44
  SPEAKER_06: There was a children allegedly there was a children's football game nearby during the shooting that took place last night.
• 2:24:51
  SPEAKER_06: And these jack wagons are out there going, people are talking bad about it.
• 2:24:54
  SPEAKER_06: They need to stop with all this dangerous rhetoric.
• 2:24:56
  SPEAKER_06: What about the day?
• 2:24:58
  SPEAKER_06: All right.
• 2:25:00
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• 2:25:06
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• 2:26:41
  SPEAKER_27: John, this mayor is worried about us pointing fingers.
• 2:26:45
  SPEAKER_27: Well, you know, when you point the fingers at guns, there are four more pointing back at you.
• 2:26:53
  SPEAKER_36: Hey John, you know what they say?
• 2:26:55
  SPEAKER_36: When somebody tells you who they are, you should listen.
• 2:27:00
  SPEAKER_36: They're not Americans.
• 2:27:02
  SPEAKER_36: They're not Somali Americans.
• 2:27:04
  SPEAKER_36: They're Somalis in America.
• 2:27:08
  SPEAKER_36: The only true solution to this is to send them back to where they really say they're from.
• 2:27:15
  SPEAKER_06: And again, I know I'm not going down that road.
• 2:27:17
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not.
• 2:27:19
  SPEAKER_06: I understand the sentiment.
• 2:27:20
  SPEAKER_06: I understand why people feel that way, be that as it may.
• 2:27:24
  SPEAKER_06: There are plenty of individuals, immigrants here in Minnesota, regardless of what background they have, Somali or not, that are upstanding, contributing citizens to Minnesota and to the quality of life here, who have chosen to assimilate, who do understand what America has to offer.
• 2:27:42
  SPEAKER_06: But what comes with that?
• 2:27:44
  SPEAKER_06: An understanding of the culture here in the United States.
• 2:27:46
  SPEAKER_06: What you do and what you teach in your home, that's up to you.
• 2:27:49
  SPEAKER_06: But out in the real world, you shouldn't expect special treatment.
• 2:27:53
  SPEAKER_06: You certainly shouldn't commit acts of fraud.
• 2:27:55
  SPEAKER_06: And there are plenty of individuals that are doing just that.
• 2:27:59
  SPEAKER_06: We're speaking specifically to those individuals who are out there being champions of crime that are committing acts of fraud, and the youth that are getting swept up in all of this.
• 2:28:07
  SPEAKER_06: I'll get to more of this in uh just a minute on the show.
• 2:28:10
  SPEAKER_06: I do appreciate your uh your comments.
• 2:28:13
  SPEAKER_21: Hi, John.
• 2:28:14
  SPEAKER_21: Great show.
• 2:28:15
  SPEAKER_21: Say, I had a friend who had kids graduate from Eden Prairie High School 20 plus years ago, and they told their dad that they would not live anywhere that would send their kids to that school district.
• 2:28:29
  SPEAKER_21: And this was 20 years ago.
• 2:28:30
  SPEAKER_21: So it's not just a new problem.
• 2:28:34
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• 2:28:35
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• 2:28:41
  SPEAKER_21: Have a great day.
• 2:28:43
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• 2:28:44
  SPEAKER_05: My apologies.
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• 2:32:07
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• 2:32:14
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• 2:32:21
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• 2:32:25
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• 2:32:30
  SPEAKER_30: Morning, John.
• 2:32:32
  SPEAKER_30: Uh, your suicidal empathy towards immigrants is gonna kill us all.
• 2:32:40
  SPEAKER_30: Thanks.
• 2:32:41
  SPEAKER_06: Your lack thereof is going to do nothing to solve the problem.
• 2:32:45
  SPEAKER_06: Call it whatever you want.
• 2:32:47
  SPEAKER_06: But do you think that there's gonna be a mass deportation of immigrants regardless of their background if they're here legally?
• 2:32:56
  SPEAKER_06: Do you do you do you really expect that's gonna happen?
• 2:32:59
  SPEAKER_06: Why feed into and give the ability for the idiot leadership, the leftists out there, to go and make the claims that they are to redirect the conversation?
• 2:33:11
  SPEAKER_06: Why fuel that?
• 2:33:14
  SPEAKER_06: You know, you can call it suicidal empathy, but I'm also being realistic and using common sense.
• 2:33:21
  SPEAKER_06: Spouting off about deporting everybody is not gonna get you anywhere.
• 2:33:25
  SPEAKER_06: It's gonna get you eye rolls, and it's gonna get you the commentary that we're hearing right now instead of going and addressing the problem.
• 2:33:33
  SPEAKER_06: Listen, have whatever opinion that you want to have.
• 2:33:36
  SPEAKER_06: I have my own opinions as well.
• 2:33:38
  SPEAKER_06: Opinions that I don't go and share on the show regarding all kinds of different issues.
• 2:33:43
  SPEAKER_06: But when I talk about the issues here on the show, I want to talk about it from a realistic viewpoint and to focus on just get rid of everybody.
• 2:33:50
  SPEAKER_06: It's completely unrealistic, it's completely unproductive, and it goes nowhere in trying to go and solve the problem that we are dealing with right now on a daily basis.
• 2:34:00
  SPEAKER_06: So sure.
• 2:34:01
  SPEAKER_06: Say I have suicidal empathy and that it's going to end up killing us all.
• 2:34:06
  SPEAKER_06: By all means, go host your own radio show and use that kind of rhetoric.
• 2:34:10
  SPEAKER_06: Friend of the show, James, wrote in I've recently purchased land in South Dakota and will be changing my residency from Wisconsin to South Dakota.
• 2:34:19
  SPEAKER_06: However, my wife and I have chose a home in Wilmer, Minnesota.
• 2:34:22
  SPEAKER_06: I think I pronounced that one correctly, right?
• 2:34:24
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 2:34:28
  SPEAKER_06: Now her address is Wilmer, but I've refused to change my legal address to Minnesota mostly because of taxes.
• 2:34:34
  SPEAKER_06: However, I want to tell you that Wilmer, Minnesota is also having a huge Somali problem as well.
• 2:34:40
  SPEAKER_06: They don't assimilate, they live in apartments three or four years, and then they buy homes for$300,000.
• 2:34:47
  SPEAKER_06: I lived there back in the 90s and it was so much different than it used to be.
• 2:34:50
  SPEAKER_06: And of course, the local politicians are sympathetic to the Somalis because there's so many of them.
• 2:34:56
  SPEAKER_06: But the last but in the last year, we've seen so many more shootings, and just last week there was a mass shooting in a public park.
• 2:35:02
  SPEAKER_06: I've written the mayor, I've sent emails to local congressmen, but it doesn't seem to go anywhere.
• 2:35:07
  SPEAKER_06: I would like to remain anonymous if you bring this up on the show, which is why I didn't say his last name.
• 2:35:13
  SPEAKER_06: Because my wife and I are trying to lead a quiet life and we don't want harassment from the liberals that live there.
• 2:35:19
  SPEAKER_06: And there are many people like us that are looking to leave and frankly scared to speak up.
• 2:35:25
  SPEAKER_06: But these Somalis are not like the immigrants that I grew up working with, and those that came up from Mexico.
• 2:35:32
  SPEAKER_06: Those immigrants wanted to make money, but did not change the culture.
• 2:35:35
  SPEAKER_06: They were just trying to live under the radar.
• 2:35:38
  SPEAKER_06: And that's the difference here.
• 2:35:40
  SPEAKER_06: You see, the leftists have enabled all of this.
• 2:35:43
  SPEAKER_06: There's been a lack of a desire to tell individuals to go and assimilate.
• 2:35:48
  SPEAKER_06: And there's been a catering to immigrant groups by the left who are more than happy to go and support through various means, or a lack of accountability when it comes to the fraud that's enabled a lot of this.
• 2:36:05
  SPEAKER_06: Story here from the Star Tribune: Eden Prairie shooting renews concerns over Twin Cities Somali gang violence.
• 2:36:14
  SPEAKER_06: A shooting injured two Somali teens outside the high school football game.
• 2:36:17
  SPEAKER_06: Police suspect this was the result of gang violence.
• 2:36:21
  SPEAKER_06: You know, it's so funny to me, too, because with all the complaints over pointing out the Somali gang problem, this story from the strib is no different than anyone else pointing to the facts.
• 2:36:32
  SPEAKER_06: Democrats, again, know that this gang violence hurts their candidates and are changing the subject to try to police the commentary rather than policing the problem born from within the immigrant Somali community.
• 2:36:48
  SPEAKER_06: So I did a little digging this morning and yesterday.
• 2:36:52
  SPEAKER_06: Because I wanted to, I wanted to get to the sort of the, if we could get to the root cause of what is actually going and encouraging these young individuals, regardless of what their background is, but in this case we're talking about Somali youth, why is it they're going and joining gangs?
• 2:37:11
  SPEAKER_06: What would is there is there a factor involved here?
• 2:37:14
  SPEAKER_06: Now we heard yesterday and I shared with you details from an individual from Somalia, serves in an elected position of power.
• 2:37:21
  SPEAKER_06: He talked about the family dynamics within Somali families.
• 2:37:25
  SPEAKER_06: And the truth of the matter is there's nothing that we can do about that.
• 2:37:27
  SPEAKER_06: If there are issues within the family unit, regardless of what background and what immigrants we're talking about, there's very little that can be done.
• 2:37:35
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, that's something that has to happen from within.
• 2:37:38
  SPEAKER_06: That's where those community conversations come into place.
• 2:37:42
  SPEAKER_06: There needs to be an internal conversation about why that's happening.
• 2:37:45
  SPEAKER_06: So we have to look external out of that.
• 2:37:48
  SPEAKER_06: The kids outside of the households going into public schools and onto the streets, why is it that so many of them are prone to go and join gangs?
• 2:37:58
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, it gets to the problem in and of itself of why kids go and join gangs in the first place.
• 2:38:02
  SPEAKER_06: Psychologist B.
• 2:38:03
  SPEAKER_06: Heidi Ellis and some of her colleagues, they did some of the only significant work on this particular issue, studying Somali young adults in several North American communities.
• 2:38:16
  SPEAKER_06: And their research found that gang involvement was viewed by Somali participants as a significant community problem and associated with marginalization connected to the refugee experience.
• 2:38:28
  SPEAKER_06: But see, a part of the issue here is that there's a catering that takes place.
• 2:38:32
  SPEAKER_06: And when it comes to the leftists and their attitude towards accountability, this mindset that permeates all of it, when you look at the commentary coming from a social warrior justice zealot who treats it like a religion, like Scary Moriarty, it's not just applicable to Somali youth, it's applicable to all crime.
• 2:38:52
  SPEAKER_06: It's this idea that you're not responsible for your actions.
• 2:38:55
  SPEAKER_06: It's external factors that put you in a position to go and commit the crimes that you're committing.
• 2:39:01
  SPEAKER_06: You also see this happen now happening now when it comes to these various women issues.
• 2:39:06
  SPEAKER_06: The Lindsey Clancy case, the botched execution of the woman in Tennessee.
• 2:39:11
  SPEAKER_06: Now you see it happening with this Cornell 7 story.
• 2:39:14
  SPEAKER_06: Although the details are emerging that really are syncing this woman's claim that she was raped, including some of the individuals involved, the men involved who should not have partaken in this debaucherous behavior.
• 2:39:28
  SPEAKER_06: But some of the men are now saying that they were raped because they were intoxicated and she went and took advantage of them.
• 2:39:34
  SPEAKER_06: But you have the crazies out there, the awful, the affluent white liberal women that are out there with this attitude of, well, as long as you, after the fact of doing whatever crime you committed or whatever accusation is against you, as long as you lament that after the fact and you show regret, then you shouldn't be held accountable for the activity that you originally committed that got you in trouble in the first place.
• 2:40:01
  SPEAKER_06: The same thing rings true here when it comes to our youth and what's happening.
• 2:40:06
  SPEAKER_06: Because too many of these immigrants, these young immigrant kids are being told that they're not responsible for their actions.
• 2:40:14
  SPEAKER_06: The same thing with the fraudsters.
• 2:40:18
  SPEAKER_06: I'm waiting for that argument to pop up.
• 2:40:20
  SPEAKER_06: How long is it until the fraud story gets so big and ends up impacting the leftists and their electoral chances that suddenly it's going to be, well, you know, the system was just too easy to be fraudulent, so we can't hold these people accountable.
• 2:40:35
  SPEAKER_06: But these kids are being told this over and over again.
• 2:40:40
  SPEAKER_06: And then there's a connection to public education.
• 2:40:44
  SPEAKER_06: Schools, as I talked about earlier, one of the primary environments where young people develop identity, social relationships, and a sense of belonging.
• 2:40:57
  SPEAKER_06: You have Somali refugee students with documented difficulties adapting to American schools.
• 2:41:04
  SPEAKER_06: Well, how can you adapt when you're not being held accountable for your actions?
• 2:41:07
  SPEAKER_06: How can you expect anybody to adapt?
• 2:41:11
  SPEAKER_06: When you have what we have here in Minnesota, when you have a student that goes and disrupts the classroom, and the rules that are in place mean that everybody else in the classroom has to be removed before they can deal with the problem student.
• 2:41:30
  SPEAKER_06: How does that make sense?
• 2:41:32
  SPEAKER_06: Well, we can't be going and isolating and discriminating on students.
• 2:41:35
  SPEAKER_06: So instead, the entire classroom has to suffer.
• 2:41:38
  SPEAKER_06: Learning has to stop across the board, all to deal with one individual who may have been violating school rules.
• 2:41:46
  SPEAKER_06: And I'm not talking specifically about any particular demographic whatsoever.
• 2:41:50
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just saying a young person, uh, male or female, this happens all the time.
• 2:41:57
  SPEAKER_06: And as the research goes on to say, to my point, and more succinctly, particularly among students with limited or interrupted prior formal education, other research has identified academic disparities and challenges involving language, cultural differences, and family school engagement.
• 2:42:12
  SPEAKER_06: But if you don't have a healthy, robust education system, and we don't have a healthy, robust education system with increased funding, 25% to the tune of billions upon billions of dollars, going back to 2020 up until now, but the schools have only gotten worse.
• 2:42:32
  SPEAKER_06: And so is the situation for the youth inside the schools, immigrants, refugee, and born in America alike.
• 2:42:42
  SPEAKER_06: School experience, desire to look for belonging and identity, social connections, and so the social connections you make end up being with potentially the same riffraff who are dealing with the same issues you are in a vulnerable situation, and you end up with a recipe for disaster resulting in a lack of assimilation, a lack of accountability, and now it's spilling out and disrupting the lives of everybody, whether it is individuals out playing softball games on a Monday night or high schoolers trying to play football on a Friday night.
• 2:43:19
  SPEAKER_06: And yet, what are we hearing from individuals?
• 2:43:26
  SPEAKER_06: Quit talking bad about it.
• 2:43:28
  SPEAKER_06: Quit quit quit quit speaking poorly.
• 2:43:31
  SPEAKER_06: We're worried about the way that this is being discussed.
• 2:43:37
  SPEAKER_06: Instead of focusing on the problem and trying to address why it is that so many youth are acting the way that they are.
• 2:43:44
  SPEAKER_06: Bill Glaun was at the community meet at the uh community meeting, Edina uh City Hall, following the disturbances, the QA session from the public.
• 2:43:55
  SPEAKER_06: Let me get into this piece here.
• 2:43:57
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Bill Glaun wrote the uh wrote this this morning.
• 2:44:00
  SPEAKER_06: Minneapolis Imam warning following the shooting at the Eden Prairie Homecoming Game.
• 2:44:04
  SPEAKER_06: Imam Hassan Dewey of the Al Hikmah Islamic Center expressed condolences and warned politicians against using the incident for political gain.
• 2:44:16
  SPEAKER_06: While Dewey labeled the incident as gun violence, authorities are investigating the possibility of gang involvement.
• 2:44:21
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, all the all the listen, all the authorities are saying they know exactly who was involved in all of this.
• 2:44:26
  SPEAKER_06: And by the way, the incident for political gain, it's not coming from the from the right.
• 2:44:30
  SPEAKER_06: It's coming from the left.
• 2:44:32
  SPEAKER_06: It's the individuals that want to go and complain about the words being spoken and not address the issue of what is actually driving the crime and the gang involvement.
• 2:44:44
  SPEAKER_06: Some metro area Somali leaders, according to the KSTP story, are working on a plan for greater safety.
• 2:44:51
  SPEAKER_06: They expected to release that last night after the shooting outside the Eden Prairie Homecoming Game Friday night.
• 2:44:57
  SPEAKER_06: Of course, that was exacerbated by the gas, uh, the uh gas station shooting.
• 2:45:01
  SPEAKER_06: On his Facebook page, the emam wrote, Our hearts are with the students and the families and everyone who attended that night.
• 2:45:06
  SPEAKER_06: KSTP is quoting uh from this statement from the mosque's Facebook page that concludes with this warning.
• 2:45:13
  SPEAKER_06: I also warn politicians to not use this tragedy for political gain or to label an entire community.
• 2:45:19
  SPEAKER_06: The gun violence, this is gun violence, and we must call it what it is.
• 2:45:23
  SPEAKER_06: Let law enforcement and the justice system do their work.
• 2:45:26
  SPEAKER_06: No, it's it's it's violence being done by the youth.
• 2:45:35
  SPEAKER_06: Hassan is keeping, writes Bill Glaun, with the states and Democratic politicians by putting the incident into the gun violence box, as we were just talking about.
• 2:45:44
  SPEAKER_06: This is a typical response from Eden Prairie's Democratic State Senator who wrote, I'm devastated by the news of the gun violence at Eden Prairie's homecoming game.
• 2:45:53
  SPEAKER_06: They are the ones who are making it political.
• 2:46:04
  SPEAKER_06: It's the left by ignoring the problem and turning their attention towards the guns.
• 2:46:09
  SPEAKER_06: Hassan said we must call it gun violence.
• 2:46:14
  SPEAKER_06: He says that we must call it gun violence, but investigating police are labeling the incident as something else.
• 2:46:19
  SPEAKER_06: From News Nation, investigators eye gang violence in the Minnesota Homecoming shooting.
• 2:46:24
  SPEAKER_06: That's gang, not gun.
• 2:46:25
  SPEAKER_06: Authorities investigating the shooting during the homecoming football game in Minnesota, working to determine its ties to Somali gangs.
• 2:46:32
  SPEAKER_06: A 17-year-old remains hospitalized with non-life-threatening injuries, while an 18-year-old was released from the hospital Saturday.
• 2:46:41
  SPEAKER_06: Both are reportedly Somali and known to law enforcement.
• 2:46:46
  SPEAKER_06: As for the Imam's warning rights bill, what fate awaits these politicians who he views as exploiting the tragedy?
• 2:46:54
  SPEAKER_06: Does he believe this tragedy demands that all current elected officials be automatically re-elected in order to avoid any labeling?
• 2:47:01
  SPEAKER_06: The Imam's mosque itself has fallen victim to crime in recent months.
• 2:47:06
  SPEAKER_06: Bring me the news reported back in July.
• 2:47:08
  SPEAKER_06: The faith leaders say the new mosque and community gathering space for Minneapolis was broken in through, uh broken into twice over the last month.
• 2:47:16
  SPEAKER_06: Mosque uh leaders say the center was broken into twice in July, with the most recent happening July 20th.
• 2:47:21
  SPEAKER_06: And uh listen, the fact that you haven't heard about this, I speaks to I think it speaks to probably who is doing this.
• 2:47:27
  SPEAKER_06: A hint, it's not the individuals who they are so concerned about the way that they are talking about the issue.
• 2:47:35
  SPEAKER_06: And all of this stems out of starting in the metro areas and then spreading out.
• 2:47:43
  SPEAKER_06: Which just goes back to why you cannot discount wanting to do something about the twin cities, St.
• 2:47:51
  SPEAKER_06: Paul and Minneapolis.
• 2:47:53
  SPEAKER_06: It is foolish to sit back and go, well, they got what they voted for and call it a day.
• 2:47:57
  SPEAKER_06: I understand the desire to do that.
• 2:47:59
  SPEAKER_06: I understand the rationale and why people say that.
• 2:48:01
  SPEAKER_06: But be that as it may, the way Minneapolis and St.
• 2:48:04
  SPEAKER_06: Paul go, the rest of the state goes.
• 2:48:06
  SPEAKER_06: And we're seeing that right now.
• 2:48:09
  SPEAKER_06: Although, what are they more concerned about in the city of Minneapolis?
• 2:48:12
  SPEAKER_06: They're more concerned about, you know, autonomous uh vehicles.
• 2:48:15
  SPEAKER_06: I had this clip here I was sitting on.
• 2:48:17
  SPEAKER_06: I'll share it with you uh now.
• 2:48:18
  SPEAKER_06: This is Aurin uh Chowdhury going back into the Waymo uh ban, reading off of a script, mind you.
• 2:48:28
  SPEAKER_06: Becca Thompson also posted this.
• 2:48:33
  unknown: Right?
• 2:48:33
  SPEAKER_06: Making things about emotion, reading from a script.
• 2:48:37
  SPEAKER_06: The DSA activists for far too long have had the power to of the press in their pocket.
• 2:48:41
  SPEAKER_06: No one wants to wade through these endless meetings to know what to look for.
• 2:48:45
  SPEAKER_06: They are puppets.
• 2:48:46
  SPEAKER_06: Just listen to her talking about the issue of the Waymo vehicles.
• 2:48:50
  SPEAKER_45: We had hundreds of people spending their precious days and time showing up to the Capitol to talk about regulating autonomous vehicles and the threat that they do feel it produces.
• 2:49:04
  SPEAKER_45: Um I think that there is still so much more that we have to consider, and that's why I support this policy today.
• 2:49:12
  SPEAKER_45: I think the place I want to start off with is we have we can't untie this from the fact that autonomous vehicles do create an existential threat for thousands of people in our communities, and we as a local government have to take up the responsibility of getting ahead of that.
• 2:49:31
  SPEAKER_45: We can't just sweep it under the rug and call it option creation and put out the red carpet for tech billion tech billionaires like Elon Musk.
• 2:49:42
  SPEAKER_06: All right, here's what I want to do.
• 2:49:44
  SPEAKER_06: We have some few minutes left in the show.
• 2:49:46
  SPEAKER_06: I want to keep with the topic of what we're discussing, with what is turning into rampant violence taking place.
• 2:49:54
  SPEAKER_06: And it is.
• 2:49:55
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, how do you look at it?
• 2:49:56
  SPEAKER_06: We have two different shootings near the same location, same group of individuals involved.
• 2:50:01
  SPEAKER_06: As a matter of fact, I believe I think I had it in my stack somewhere, so my apologies for uh not having it up front.
• 2:50:07
  SPEAKER_06: But I believe they actually tracked down the vehicle that was the getaway car from Friday night to an area over in St.
• 2:50:16
  SPEAKER_06: Paul.
• 2:50:16
  SPEAKER_06: So I want to go through and take a look at a lot of the comments that have rolled in to the blaster line at 651-964-0294.
• 2:50:24
  SPEAKER_06: So let's do this.
• 2:50:25
  SPEAKER_06: We've taken care of all of our wonderful uh sponsors, and I'm so thankful for all of our sponsors here on the show, whether it's uh NeutraWave, uh Joe Scott, of course, uh Erickson, plumbing, heating air, and electrical and uh mini leaf.
• 2:50:37
  SPEAKER_06: So let's do this.
• 2:50:37
  SPEAKER_06: Let's go ahead and uh enjoy Waymo is a no-go while I preview some of your uh comments and we share those in the closing minutes of the John Justice show here on uh and presented by American Experiment.
• 2:50:54
  SPEAKER_23: You know, and then you can use the Waymo.
• 2:50:56
  SPEAKER_23: You don't know which way they may go or may not go.
• 2:50:59
  SPEAKER_23: Just get in, okay?
• 2:51:01
  SPEAKER_23: There's way more ways than the way that you got.
• 2:51:04
  SPEAKER_23: So let's go with those ways.
• 2:51:06
  SPEAKER_23: The end.
• 2:51:16
  SPEAKER_18: Here they come the autonomous feet, driven by the ghost of the digital.
• 2:54:00
  SPEAKER_23: You don't know which way they make them.
• 2:54:03
  SPEAKER_23: Just get in, okay?
• 2:54:05
  SPEAKER_23: There's way more ways than the way that you got.
• 2:54:08
  SPEAKER_23: So let's go with those ways.
• 2:54:10
  SPEAKER_31: The in morning, John Gonzo.
• 2:54:16
  SPEAKER_31: Hennipin County will never change, at least not in the near future.
• 2:54:20
  SPEAKER_31: Um Hannibal had a shot with Diane Cranes in the race.
• 2:54:25
  SPEAKER_31: However, the two remaining candidates are both defense attorneys.
• 2:54:31
  SPEAKER_31: And it's not gonna change.
• 2:54:32
  SPEAKER_31: And I still never understand why Hennesson County residents elect the defense attorney for the prosecutor's office.
• 2:54:44
  SPEAKER_31: Uhly in the courts, and then continue and continue to appoint progressive judges.
• 2:54:51
  SPEAKER_31: Nothing's gonna change until the Republicans take over.
• 2:55:04
  SPEAKER_31: Have a good day.
• 2:55:05
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you, Gonzo.
• 2:55:06
  SPEAKER_06: Uh always great to uh hear from you.
• 2:55:08
  SPEAKER_06: I appreciate it.
• 2:55:09
  SPEAKER_06: Uh 651-964-0294.
• 2:55:14
  SPEAKER_06: Let's go here.
• 2:55:15
  SPEAKER_24: Good morning, uh John.
• 2:55:16
  SPEAKER_24: Uh I listened to uh the radio station, uh the liberal radio station CCL, and the host made comments like, is it really necessary to show up for these debates?
• 2:55:30
  SPEAKER_05: It sounds like me.
• 2:55:31
  SPEAKER_24: Um and that was pretty much uh about four or five hours, six hours of making excuses.
• 2:55:38
  SPEAKER_24: Thank you.
• 2:55:40
  SPEAKER_06: You know, I would just I what I would appreciate if you're not gonna do debates, then just make that a part of your campaign platform.
• 2:55:45
  SPEAKER_06: Just say it up front.
• 2:55:46
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not doing debates.
• 2:55:47
  SPEAKER_06: Simple as that.
• 2:55:48
  SPEAKER_06: I get it.
• 2:55:48
  SPEAKER_06: That's fine.
• 2:55:49
  SPEAKER_06: That's not what's happening here.
• 2:55:51
  SPEAKER_06: There's debates being scheduled, and then they're not showing up for scheduled uh debates.
• 2:55:54
  SPEAKER_06: But if you're not gonna, you know, have a debate, just be honest and say, you know, hey, I'm not gonna do a debate.
• 2:56:01
  SPEAKER_26: Good morning, John.
• 2:56:02
  SPEAKER_26: I want to say I am disappointed by the caller who said you have suicidal empathy.
• 2:56:08
  SPEAKER_26: I don't like these people from other countries doing whatever they're doing.
• 2:56:12
  SPEAKER_26: But it's individuals, it's not the entire society.
• 2:56:15
  SPEAKER_26: You can't throw them all out because this is a country full of immigrants.
• 2:56:19
  SPEAKER_26: Just because they're not your look, doesn't mean they're all bad people.
• 2:56:23
  SPEAKER_26: Because in my view, there are two kinds of people in the world, all shapes and sizes.
• 2:56:28
  SPEAKER_26: Good people and bad people.
• 2:56:31
  SPEAKER_26: You don't kick people out just because they look a different way.
• 2:56:34
  SPEAKER_26: You go after the behaviors of each individual.
• 2:56:38
  SPEAKER_26: Thank you.
• 2:56:39
  SPEAKER_06: That was a uh Scott Khan 5.
• 2:56:43
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that was an absolutely Scott Khan five.
• 2:56:46
  SPEAKER_06: And this is one of those situations where two things can be true at once.
• 2:56:50
  SPEAKER_06: Okay?
• 2:56:50
  SPEAKER_06: I think you do have to take a common common sense approach.
• 2:56:54
  SPEAKER_06: And people can, you know, you you think whatever you want to think based on my commentary here.
• 2:56:58
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, I don't care.
• 2:56:59
  SPEAKER_06: Call me names, it doesn't matter.
• 2:57:00
  SPEAKER_06: You think I've done something that's worthy of a name?
• 2:57:02
  SPEAKER_06: That's fine.
• 2:57:02
  SPEAKER_06: You think I have suicidal empathy?
• 2:57:04
  SPEAKER_06: Go for it.
• 2:57:04
  SPEAKER_06: That's fine.
• 2:57:05
  SPEAKER_06: Whatever.
• 2:57:05
  SPEAKER_06: That's your opinion.
• 2:57:06
  SPEAKER_06: It's subjective.
• 2:57:07
  SPEAKER_06: I get it.
• 2:57:08
  SPEAKER_06: I try to take a common sense approach on here.
• 2:57:10
  SPEAKER_06: I understand the frustration.
• 2:57:12
  SPEAKER_06: And I understand why people feel the way that they do.
• 2:57:14
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 2:57:15
  SPEAKER_06: That being said, for any leadership to go and focus on that particular commentary instead of addressing the issue, uh it's a complete waste of time.
• 2:57:24
  SPEAKER_06: And it's a redirect.
• 2:57:25
  SPEAKER_06: That's the politics that is taking place here while they try to go and spin this a different way because they know that this is going to have an impact on them electorally because it's bad.
• 2:57:36
  SPEAKER_06: And it's only getting worse.
• 2:57:39
  SPEAKER_06: And I feel like I didn't quite quite I didn't quite complete my my thought from from before.
• 2:57:45
  SPEAKER_06: But it it has typically been, you know, that old adage of the bleeding heart liberal, right?
• 2:57:51
  SPEAKER_06: And that it's Republicans that are cold and cruel and calculated and don't care about anything and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 2:57:59
  SPEAKER_06: Well, that's only because the left has gone and gaslighted.
• 2:58:02
  SPEAKER_06: The leftists have gaslit everybody.
• 2:58:04
  SPEAKER_06: They're the ones that don't care about these issues.
• 2:58:08
  SPEAKER_06: Because if they did, they would be the first ones.
• 2:58:10
  SPEAKER_06: If they actually stuck to what they talk about so often, they would be the ones stepping up and talking about how kids are having their childhoods and their youth stolen from them.
• 2:58:24
  SPEAKER_06: Stolen from them because of the lack of the adults in charge to go and do the right thing.
• 2:58:31
  SPEAKER_06: Now, see the left wants this because they're of the opinion, and in a lot of a lot of ways, correctly so, that the more broken the students are leaving the public education system, the better opportunity they have to tap in to whatever they're dealing with to take advantage of and exploit so they'll vote them into office.
• 2:58:55
  SPEAKER_06: So that's why when you look at this task force that's being convened, conveniently announced to six days before the MCA test scores.
• 2:59:04
  SPEAKER_06: What are they gonna look at?
• 2:59:05
  SPEAKER_06: More equity, changing the way that you evaluate a student, not actually improving the education, not getting a grip on the violence taking place in the classroom, not changing the protocols relating to discipline in the schools, not focusing on what is driving young immigrant Somali youth to get involved in gangs.
• 2:59:24
  SPEAKER_06: No, they're gonna change the dynamics of how they go and analyze the students' learning to make the numbers look better without changing any of the quality of the education or tackling anything that I just mentioned.
• 2:59:40
  SPEAKER_06: Why?
• 2:59:40
  SPEAKER_06: Because they want to exploit them when they get out of school.
• 2:59:43
  SPEAKER_06: That's why Governor Dim Walls, when he gets up in front of commencement speeches, goes out of his way to talk about ICE at the time and Operation Metro Surge as being the Gestapo to paint this picture, is we here, we leftists, will be the ones to help you deal with all these problems created by Republicans.
• 2:59:58
  SPEAKER_06: Because if they stood behind what they actually say, then they would be the first ones up front going, we got to tackle all of this because youth, the chilling effect that they use so often when it comes to the illegal alien community, can't have ice, you're gonna end up people are scared.
• 3:00:15
  SPEAKER_06: All the fear-mongering that took place during Operation Metro Surge, it was all political.
• 3:00:20
  SPEAKER_06: But it's never applicable when it comes to our kids in schools.
• 3:00:23
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they'll exploit it when there's a horrific thing that takes place, depending on the specificity of that horrific thing.
• 3:00:29
  SPEAKER_06: Because it isn't, isn't it interesting how differently we are handling the shootings at the high schools, at the church, what took place yesterday over what happened during enunciation.
• 3:00:41
  SPEAKER_06: You see, at that point in time, children involved, I get it, much more severe, especially in terms of the loss of life.
• 3:00:47
  SPEAKER_06: I understand the focus.
• 3:00:49
  SPEAKER_06: I get it.
• 3:00:49
  SPEAKER_06: But when you look at the commentary, it is wholly different and separated.
• 3:00:56
  SPEAKER_06: But there's no desire to go and change what's happening in the schools to benefit the kids who are already have such a difficult time at a young age learning.
• 3:01:04
  SPEAKER_06: You know what's funny?
• 3:01:05
  SPEAKER_06: I was talking with David as we bookend the show and we wrap things up for a Tuesday.
• 3:01:09
  SPEAKER_06: I was talking with David about these AI songs that I've been making with Suno on my free time.
• 3:01:15
  SPEAKER_06: It just really has been providing me a lot of joy to break away from all of what we deal with on a daily basis.
• 3:01:21
  SPEAKER_06: It's just how I found a way to sort of get my mind, you know, and attention someplace else, and dopamine hits that aren't coming from my cell phone.
• 3:01:30
  SPEAKER_06: But a lot of these songs that I've created, they're from these writings that I did.
• 3:01:34
  SPEAKER_06: I fancied myself as a tormented soul when I was in my youth and wrote all this poetry, and I keep it all in a binder, just hundreds of hundreds of pages of stuff.
• 3:01:45
  SPEAKER_06: But you know what it's all focused on?
• 3:01:48
  SPEAKER_06: It's all focused on relationships.
• 3:01:52
  SPEAKER_06: Right?
• 3:01:52
  SPEAKER_06: The difficulties that I was dealing with at the time, as a just a young adult.
• 3:01:57
  SPEAKER_06: Nothing to do with politics, nothing to do with violence in schools, none of it.
• 3:02:02
  SPEAKER_06: No, just hundreds of writings of a wannabe young uh poet at the time.
• 3:02:09
  SPEAKER_06: Not a good one, by the way.
• 3:02:10
  SPEAKER_06: Thankfully, the AI takes care of a lot of that.
• 3:02:14
  SPEAKER_06: But you know, students are even robbed of that.
• 3:02:17
  SPEAKER_06: When are they gonna have an opportunity to grow up?
• 3:02:20
  SPEAKER_06: When are they gonna have an opportunity to go and deal with just life in general?
• 3:02:27
  SPEAKER_06: They're not.
• 3:02:29
  SPEAKER_06: They're walking around in cages that have been created by the very politicians that want them voting into office and that they are voting into office.
• 3:02:39
  SPEAKER_06: Because they don't know how to function in real life.
• 3:02:43
  SPEAKER_06: Why do you think they all look like cartoons?
• 3:02:47
  SPEAKER_06: Why do you think we have the social contagion that we have?
• 3:02:52
  SPEAKER_06: Because the leftists have done a really, really good job of making sure that students do not and young people do not have the ability to handle real life.
• 3:03:03
  SPEAKER_06: So they walk around in a fantasy world that's been created by the adults around them, living in fear.
• 3:03:12
  SPEAKER_06: It's tragic.
• 3:03:14
  SPEAKER_06: It's just it's absolutely tragic.
• 3:03:17
  SPEAKER_06: It doesn't have to be this way.
• 3:03:20
  SPEAKER_06: It doesn't have to be this way.
• 3:03:23
  SPEAKER_06: And there's a chance to change it.
• 3:03:25
  SPEAKER_06: There's a chance to change things, to get us pointed in a better direction here in the coming weeks.
• 3:03:31
  SPEAKER_06: Whether Minneapolis, whether Minnesota, whether the country sees the opportunity, and whether those that have positions of power take advantage of the opportunity remains to be seen.
• 3:03:43
  SPEAKER_06: But again, it just doesn't need to be this way.
• 3:03:46
  SPEAKER_06: My heart breaks for all these students going to these schools.
• 3:03:49
  SPEAKER_06: You know, that evacuation audio that I played earlier, there was a video that accompanied that, and it was just somebody who was shooting their screen, which is why the audio was was wonky on it.
• 3:03:58
  SPEAKER_06: But you see all these kids in the middle of a football game running off the field and people descending from the from the rafters.
• 3:04:04
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, you want to talk about a chilling effect?
• 3:04:06
  SPEAKER_06: Walter Hudson was right, they're not gonna soon forget that.
• 3:04:09
  SPEAKER_06: The divisions are gonna grow even wider here in this country.
• 3:04:15
  SPEAKER_06: It's an absolute tragedy.
• 3:04:17
  SPEAKER_06: And what are the elected officials and the adults talking about?
• 3:04:19
  SPEAKER_06: How other people are talking about it.
• 3:04:21
  SPEAKER_35: We don't like the way that people are speaking about this.
• 3:04:26
  SPEAKER_06: All right.
• 3:04:27
  SPEAKER_06: We'll go out on a uh on a lighter note here in uh in just a moment.
• 3:04:31
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you so much for hanging out on the show this morning.
• 3:04:33
  SPEAKER_06: I do feel uh truly uh blessed to be able to do uh what I do and to continue uh doing what I do.
• 3:04:40
  SPEAKER_06: Uh it's a lot more than I can say for a lot of my fellow uh talk show hosts around the country that have been swept up uh in uh in layoffs and companies.
• 3:04:48
  SPEAKER_06: I feel incredibly, incredibly blessed to be able to talk to you uh every single day.
• 3:04:52
  SPEAKER_06: And a lot of that goes to most of that goes to Center of the American Experiment for allowing me to continue to uh to do this show.
• 3:04:58
  SPEAKER_06: As a reminder, head on over to AmericanExperiment.org.
• 3:05:02
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• 3:05:03
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• 3:05:11
  SPEAKER_06: A solution to one of the problems that we've been talking about on the show this morning.
• 3:05:16
  SPEAKER_06: Giving a leg up to a student dealing, you know, living in a time where it's never been more difficult to be a student.
• 3:05:22
  SPEAKER_06: That is the 7K for kids fun run happening on Sunday.
• 3:05:26
  SPEAKER_06: One o'clock is the check-in.
• 3:05:27
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• 3:05:30
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• 3:05:39
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• 3:05:46
  SPEAKER_06: So head on over to AmericanExperimented.org or drop me an email and I'll get you in touch with the individuals to uh get you signed up for this.
• 3:05:53
  SPEAKER_06: Uh John.justice at AmericanExperimenta.org.
• 3:05:57
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you so much for hanging out today.
• 3:05:58
  SPEAKER_06: If you missed any portion of today's show, you can go and check out the podcast.
• 3:06:03
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• 3:06:12
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• 3:06:16
  SPEAKER_06: I hope you have a fantastic uh Tuesday.
• 3:06:19
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you so much for hanging out with us today.
• 3:06:21
  SPEAKER_06: Let's go on a little stop cat meow meow to wrap up uh Tuesday's show.
• 3:06:25
  SPEAKER_06: God bless, and I'll talk to you guys tomorrow morning starting at 6 a.m.
• 3:06:31
  SPEAKER_46: I will say cats have been killed, and cats have been killed by these autonomous vehicles.
• 3:06:36
  SPEAKER_46: And I have a cat.
• 3:06:37
  SPEAKER_46: I don't want my cat getting killed because of these autonomous vehicles.
• 3:06:39
  SPEAKER_46: So those to those cat lovers out there, just know that these lame vehicles, these autonomous vehicles have killed cats.
• 3:06:44
  SPEAKER_46: Literally, cats being murdered by these vehicles.