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Numbers You Can Trust · ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes

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  Speaker 1: From Memphis, Tennessee, it's America's favorite gun-toting, Bible-clinging, deplorable American.
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  Speaker 2: That's us, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: I love this American ride.
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  Speaker 1: Todd Starr.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, fellow patriots. Jeff Stein filling in for Todd again today.
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  Speaker 2: He's making his way back from that great book signing
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  Speaker 2: event in Houston last evening. I've got details to share
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  Speaker 2: with you a little later this hour about it, but
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  Speaker 2: I am so pleased to be with you once again
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  Speaker 2: today from the Liberty University studio, 901-260-5926. That's how you
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  Speaker 2: can join our coast-to-coast conversation. Plenty of time for your
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  Speaker 2: But we want to begin this program by going immediately
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  Speaker 2: to the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line at The state of
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  Speaker 2: Iowa currently has two Republican senators. One of those seats
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  Speaker 2: is an open seat in 2026 due to retirement, and
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  Speaker 2: it is a key race to watch, one of the
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  Speaker 2: top six or eight to watch across the country. Joining
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  Speaker 2: us now on that Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line is the
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  Speaker 2: Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in the great state of Iowa,
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  Speaker 2: current U.S. Congresswoman Ashley Hinson. Congresswoman, thanks for taking the time.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, Jeff. Great to be with you. I'm out
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  Speaker 4: on my Fighting for Iowa tour out on the tour bus,
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  Speaker 4: so we're making our way around the state.
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  Speaker 2: As you talk to Iowans, what do you hear them
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  Speaker 2: express concern about most frequently?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think it's exactly what we've been talking about.
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  Speaker 4: It's about lowering the cost of gas and groceries, making
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  Speaker 4: sure we're lowering the cost of health care and pushing
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  Speaker 4: back against corruption in Washington, D.C., and that's exactly what
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  Speaker 4: my Fighting for Iowa tour is all about, Jeff. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm hearing about how many Iowans feel like they have
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  Speaker 4: been priced out of the American dream, and I really
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  Speaker 4: think it's because for too long there's been too many
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  Speaker 4: politicians in D.C. that have really forgotten about the people,
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  Speaker 4: like the people of Iowa, who are working hard for
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  Speaker 4: a living every single day. And so that's what I'm
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  Speaker 4: fighting to change. And as I was next U.S. Senator,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's about immediate relief, and long-term certainty, and
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  Speaker 4: that's what I'm going to be focused on.
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  Speaker 2: Iowa is a unique state. We have many more Republicans
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  Speaker 2: registered than Democrats, but there are many, many more independents
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  Speaker 2: than even Democrats. Democrats are in third place, and so
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  Speaker 2: this is a tricky kind of a race to run
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  Speaker 2: because you not only need Republicans, you not only need
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  Speaker 2: the Trump base, you also need an awful lot of independents.
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  Speaker 2: How are you positioning your message... so that those folks
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  Speaker 2: know that you are the better choice as opposed to
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  Speaker 2: either your Democrat opponent or your libertarian opponent.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think my focus has always been on delivering
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  Speaker 4: for Iowans because they expect results. They don't like empty rhetoric.
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  Speaker 4: They like it when you get things done for them.
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  Speaker 4: And I served under President Biden and Nancy Pelosi was
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  Speaker 4: the speaker. And I like to tell people if I
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  Speaker 4: can get policies passed into law under those two where
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  Speaker 4: we don't agree on much, then I can work with anyone.
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  Speaker 4: And I think You look at the politicians in D.C.
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  Speaker 4: that are focused more on fighting with each other and
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  Speaker 4: scoring political points for headlines. That's not me. I am
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  Speaker 4: focused on making life affordable for Iowans. I don't give
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  Speaker 4: a rip who gets credit for it. If it's a
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  Speaker 4: good policy for Iowa, I will work with anyone, any
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  Speaker 4: party to get it done.
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  Speaker 2: Ashley Hinson is our guest. Currently Congresswoman from Northeast Iowa,
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  Speaker 2: Republican candidate for U.S. Senate. AshleyHinson.com is the website. She
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  Speaker 2: joins us on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line on the
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  Speaker 2: Todd Starnes Show. Jeff Stein filling in for Todd today.
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  Speaker 2: Your Democrat opponent is running a much different message now
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  Speaker 2: in the general election than he did in the primary election,
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  Speaker 2: and he's taken some shots at you and your family.
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  Speaker 2: You and I have talked about this on my television program,
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  Speaker 2: but share with the national audience, if you would, the
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  Speaker 2: kind of attacks that these far-left Democrats are willing to
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  Speaker 2: make just to get power.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah and i think it just shows exactly what you
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  Speaker 4: said jack they're willing to pay or do anything to
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  Speaker 4: get elected and i think it's all the time out
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  Speaker 4: on the trail my opponent is a big liberal you
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  Speaker 4: vote like any post liberal but even even bigger liar
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  Speaker 4: and uh... he's been out there lying about my family
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  Speaker 4: my husband success uh... we actually made the decision in
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty one to sell all of our publicly traded
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  Speaker 4: stock i don't read stock i didn't get rich in
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  Speaker 4: congress my husband built and sold a business in 2021.
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  Speaker 4: And he's out there saying, my husband's a shadow lobbyist.
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  Speaker 4: That is nonsense, meant to distract from Josh Turek's liberal record.
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  Speaker 4: And I would be running from my record, too, if
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  Speaker 4: I had his voting record. First of all, he barely
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  Speaker 4: showed up to the Capitol this year, Jeff. Forty-two percent
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  Speaker 4: of the time, he was showing up to work. And
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  Speaker 4: I think Iowans and Americans know the value of hard work.
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  Speaker 4: And if you're not showing up but two out of
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  Speaker 4: every five days, you're getting fired. You're not getting a promotion.
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  Speaker 4: But His record is liberal, whether it's on illegal immigration
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  Speaker 4: and allowing them to get taxpayer-funded benefits or allowing taxpayers
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  Speaker 4: to have to pay for gender transition surgeries or letting
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  Speaker 4: kids change their gender pronouns at school and not tell
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  Speaker 4: the parents about it. That is his liberal record that
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't want to talk about, and it proves to
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  Speaker 4: me that he would be a reliable vote for Chuck
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  Speaker 4: Schumer when he would get to Washington, D.C.
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  Speaker 5: As a U.S.
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  Speaker 4: Senator. So we cannot let that happen in Iowa. and
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  Speaker 4: the balance of power rides on the turnout of this
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  Speaker 4: election in Iowa.
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  Speaker 2: AshleyHinson.com is the website. There's a nice subtle contribute button.
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  Speaker 2: You folks across the country, if you like what you
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  Speaker 2: hear and you have the means to do so and
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  Speaker 2: would like to support her cause, that's one way to
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  Speaker 2: do it. Something that we mentioned on this program yesterday, Congresswoman,
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  Speaker 2: and as you note, your Democrat opponent won the primary
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  Speaker 2: thanks to Chuck Schumer. He was the favored candidate. and
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  Speaker 2: they cleared much of the rest of the field so
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  Speaker 2: that he could get there. Now you've got certain political
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  Speaker 2: action committees that are funding third-party candidates, including in your
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  Speaker 2: race the Libertarian, but the money's coming from the Democrat
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  Speaker 2: side of the ledger. So in essence, the Democrats are
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  Speaker 2: putting money on two of the horses in the race.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely. They are totally trying to play that game.
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  Speaker 4: They're doing it in Iowa. They're doing it in Nebraska.
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  Speaker 4: They're doing it all over the country where they are
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  Speaker 4: trying to meddle. and elevate these candidates who otherwise would
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  Speaker 4: not be resonating with voters. And what I'm telling everyone
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  Speaker 4: is I am traveling the entire state delivering my common-sense
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  Speaker 4: conservative message. I'm going to push back on the lies
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  Speaker 4: coming from my opponent, Josh Turek, and I think Iowans
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  Speaker 4: need to know that these outside forces are trying to
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  Speaker 4: meddle in our elections. Chuck Schumer spent $ 10 million to
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  Speaker 4: get Josh Turek through the primary election. And, you know,
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  Speaker 4: he'll spend whatever it takes to get him through the
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  Speaker 4: general election so he can have that reliable vote. But
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  Speaker 4: it's funny to me because he was trashing the president
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  Speaker 4: every which way during the primary. And now it's a
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  Speaker 4: different tune. It's not like he had some crazy policy
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  Speaker 4: epiphany and he's decided he wants to work with President Trump.
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  Speaker 4: He just has realized, no, his ideas don't sell in Iowa.
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  Speaker 4: And that is really what voters need to hear. If
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  Speaker 4: you want common sense, a conservatism, someone who's going to
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  Speaker 4: stand up for taxpayers, for rural America, and for safety
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  Speaker 4: and security in our country, that I'm your girl. If
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  Speaker 4: you want those left-leaning values that are better served in
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  Speaker 4: New York or California, Josh Church, your candidate.
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  Speaker 2: Ashley Hinson, Republican candidate, U.S. Senate in Iowa, current congresswoman,
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  Speaker 2: for a few more minutes with us here on the
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  Speaker 2: Todd Starnes Show on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line. As
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  Speaker 2: I look at This race in particular, again, record speaks volumes.
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  Speaker 2: And the things that people say they will do, there
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  Speaker 2: needs to be a level of consistency. And as you've suggested,
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  Speaker 2: the TV ads for your Democrat opponent during the primary
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  Speaker 2: look nothing like the ads that he's running now. I
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  Speaker 2: guess the lesson for everyone is don't be hoodwinked by
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  Speaker 2: a 60-second slick TV spot. Do some research.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's a tale of two Tureks, and I
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  Speaker 4: think that was on display. We had our debates the
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  Speaker 4: last couple of weeks, and I was sure to draw
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  Speaker 4: that contrast out because I think Iowans need to know, again,
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  Speaker 4: who their candidates really are.
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  Speaker 2: I will fund law.
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  Speaker 4: Enforcement and border security. Josh Turek would defund it. He
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  Speaker 4: said that at our debate a couple of weeks ago,
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  Speaker 4: so think about that. He is honest about siding with
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  Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer and the Washington liberals who shut down our
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  Speaker 4: government and shut down our border patrol over the men
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  Speaker 4: and women who are actually protecting our border. So he
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  Speaker 4: will put their liberal agenda ahead of the safety of
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  Speaker 4: Iowa families. And I would say tell that to an
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  Speaker 4: Iowa mom named Michelle Root. Her daughter, Sarah Root, was
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  Speaker 4: actually killed by an illegal immigrant driving drunk here in Iowa.
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  Speaker 4: You tell that to the families of Lake and Riley.
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  Speaker 4: You know, she was murdered by a criminal illegal alien.
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  Speaker 4: So I refuse to let that happen to another family,
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  Speaker 4: and Josh Turek's liberal record is even worse if you really,
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  Speaker 4: really dig into it. Again, the taxpayer-funded benefits to illegals.
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  Speaker 4: He voted to make it harder for law enforcement to
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  Speaker 4: actually work with immigration enforcement and then used his newsletter
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  Speaker 4: to tell illegal immigrants how to avoid immigration enforcement. So
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  Speaker 4: that's what we're seeing happen. He's siding with criminal illegals
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  Speaker 4: over Iowans, and he is too liberal for Iowa.
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  Speaker 2: This is an election where I've heard a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: It's been mentioned when Todd is here. It's been mentioned
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  Speaker 2: when I'm here. There are a lot of folks who
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  Speaker 2: have voted Republican who say, well, you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: as happy as I wanted to be. I need to
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  Speaker 2: send a message, etc., This is really the time, though,
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  Speaker 2: for folks to, if you will, come home. Your primary
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  Speaker 2: opponent even came out and very strongly endorsed you in
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  Speaker 2: the last few weeks because, again, of the overall electoral picture.
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  Speaker 2: What can you say to folks across the country, certainly
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  Speaker 2: in your race? if they were thinking, well, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to send a message this election season and I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to either stay home or I'm going to vote, make
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  Speaker 2: a protest vote, etc., what do you say to them?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say don't trust the arsonists to put
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  Speaker 4: out the fire. And rewind to two years ago, and
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  Speaker 4: if you look at where our country was with rampant
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  Speaker 4: illegal immigration, DEI ruling every boardroom and every company and
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  Speaker 4: every educational entity, Again, gender transition surgery is happening. That's
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  Speaker 4: where the country will go again if you elect these
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  Speaker 4: Democrats to these offices. It's a six-year Senate term. And, yes,
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  Speaker 4: I know there is more to do. And I have
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  Speaker 4: heard from Iowans who are being squeezed. And I am
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  Speaker 4: committed to lowering prices and making life more affordable. And
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  Speaker 4: that's what I'm going to do. And we will get
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  Speaker 4: through this challenging time for our country. And who do
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  Speaker 4: you want on the other side of that? Common sense,
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  Speaker 4: conservative leadership to move our country forward and fix the
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  Speaker 4: problems we're facing? Or do you want to go back
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  Speaker 4: to the way things were two years ago when our
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  Speaker 4: country was on a path toward the bottom? So that's
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  Speaker 4: my pitch to voters. I will continue to deliver for
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  Speaker 4: Iowa working families and our farmers and our veterans. That's
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  Speaker 4: what I signed up to do, and that's what I
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  Speaker 4: will deliver as Iowa's next U.S.
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  Speaker 2: Senator. Finally, would you mind sharing with the national audience
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  Speaker 2: the analogy you have drawn with regard to Democrats in
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  Speaker 2: Congress that you've had to work with and teenagers?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I think nothing prepares you better for serving in Congress,
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  Speaker 4: or in this case, for the United States Senate, than
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  Speaker 4: being a teenage boy mom. I am a lucky mother
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  Speaker 4: to two teenage boys, Max and Jack, 15 and 13.
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  Speaker 4: And I will say this, the parallel is that you
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  Speaker 4: are constantly negotiating with unreasonable people, and their hygiene is
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  Speaker 4: questionable to boot. So I am ready to go on
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  Speaker 4: day one to serve Iowans and our country in the U.S. Senate,
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  Speaker 4: and look forward to earning your support and Jeff, I
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  Speaker 4: know you gave out my website, but AshleyHinson.com. We'd love
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  Speaker 4: to have you join our team. Help us get across
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  Speaker 4: the finish line in these next 13 days as we
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  Speaker 4: close out this great campaign in Iowa.
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  Speaker 2: AshleyHinson.com. Congresswoman, thank you so much. Good luck on November 3rd.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate the time today.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, Jeff. We'll see you back in Iowa.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Take good care. And Congresswoman Ashley Hinson of Iowa's 2nd
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  Speaker 2: Congressional District joined us on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker Line.
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  Speaker 2: She is the Republican candidate for U.S. Senate. This is
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  Speaker 2: one of the six, seven, eight key races that are
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  Speaker 2: very close. And once again, as I have said to
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  Speaker 2: folks across the country, if you know somebody in a
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  Speaker 2: state like Iowa or one of these other key states,
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  Speaker 2: Give them a call. Send them a text. Make sure
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  Speaker 2: they're going to do the right thing. And again, her website,
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  Speaker 2: if you have financial resources that you'd like to contribute
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  Speaker 2: or would just like to learn more, it's Ashley Hinson, H-I-N-S-O-N, AshleyHinson.com.
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  Speaker 2: And again, she joined us on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line, 901-260-5926.
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  Speaker 2: Your calls after this short break. Jeff Stein in for Todd.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Liberty University studio and the Todd
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  Speaker 2: Starnes Show. Jeff Stein filling in for Todd today, 901-260-5926. Now,
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  Speaker 2: normally the program begins, we have conversation. Todd talks to
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  Speaker 2: you about things in the news. sets up what's going
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  Speaker 2: to be on the program. I try to follow that because, again,
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  Speaker 2: this is his show. I'm just borrowing the car for
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  Speaker 2: the day, right? I'm borrowing dad's car. I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to ding it up at all. But I needed to
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  Speaker 2: start right out of the gate with Congresswoman Hinson because
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  Speaker 2: this is how important this all is. And I think
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  Speaker 2: you know it, but I think we can't take anything
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  Speaker 2: for granted. So it just needs to be repeated. We're
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  Speaker 2: 13 days away. That race in Iowa is huge, just
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  Speaker 2: like the race in Kansas and Texas and Maine and
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  Speaker 2: all of these others. And the shenanigans that the Democrats
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  Speaker 2: are pulling, in my state of Iowa, we run elections
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  Speaker 2: very fairly. And coming up in just a little more
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  Speaker 2: than an hour, we're going to speak with Republican election
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  Speaker 2: attorney Ben Ginsberg live on the program. And so we'll
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  Speaker 2: get more into that. But even the Democrats who are
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  Speaker 2: running for state office, The Secretary of State's office handles elections.
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  Speaker 2: And even the Democrat challenging the incumbent had to concede.
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  Speaker 2: On my television program, we did the extended interview. They
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  Speaker 2: had to concede that, no, we don't have any concerns
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  Speaker 2: with how votes are counted. We don't have any concerns
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  Speaker 2: about the accuracy of the election. They just want the power.
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  Speaker 2: And they want to loosen up early voting, etc. So,
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  Speaker 2: in other words, in my state, we do it right.
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  Speaker 2: That all being said, however, you've got this huge slice
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  Speaker 2: of independence. So while in some states you have to
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  Speaker 2: worry about truckloads of fake ballots coming in last minute,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have that same issue here in my state,
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  Speaker 2: but what we do have, the shenanigans of Democrats reinventing themselves.
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  Speaker 2: So again, Here is the Democrat. His name is Josh Chork.
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  Speaker 2: He is a Paralympian. He has used a wheelchair since birth.
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  Speaker 2: His father was part of Agent Orange, and that affected,
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  Speaker 2: of course, the children of those who served in Vietnam.
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  Speaker 2: So he has an impressive record of overcoming adversity. He's
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  Speaker 2: won two gold medals at the Paralympics. Okay, that's all fine, right?
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  Speaker 2: Much respect for that. But the reinvention that you see
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  Speaker 2: doing a TV commercial at the U.S.-Mexico border, which now
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  Speaker 2: is secure thanks to President Trump and saying, oh, I'll
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  Speaker 2: fight to secure borders. When your votes in the state legislature,
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  Speaker 2: when you bothered to show up, did the exact opposite.
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  Speaker 2: When we did the pre-primary interview with that gentleman, he
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  Speaker 2: kept referring to himself as a prairie populist. I have
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  Speaker 2: no idea what that means. Prairie populist. And he said
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  Speaker 2: it so many times, it was almost like a drinking game,
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  Speaker 2: where our bells should have gone off every time. Prairie populist,
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  Speaker 2: prairie populist. What in the blazes does that mean? Well,
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  Speaker 2: it sounds neutral, doesn't it? It doesn't tell you a
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  Speaker 2: thing about what the person would do in office. This
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  Speaker 2: is the kind of stuff that we're seeing. The people
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  Speaker 2: who appear to be these neutral people friendly sorts. In
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  Speaker 2: other words, the old time Democrats, right? Used to be
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  Speaker 2: that the Republicans and Democrats disagreed on policy, but at
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: least you knew that they both wanted to see the
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: representative democracy prevail. Well, you can't say that anymore. And
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: so that's one of the real problems with regard to
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: stealing the election. Um, You know, in the past we
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: worried about extra ballots and that kind of stuff. Now
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: we have to worry about them stealing it through false
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: advertising and not just because they're tainting the opponent. They
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: come out and say who they are and it's nothing
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: close to what they'll do. Nothing close. And so this
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: really requires all of us to pay very close attention
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: to all of these ads and these claims and especially
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: to come home not the time for sending messages. That
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: was the primary. Here's the message to send, that we
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: believe in the president and his agenda, and we're going
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: to elect the folks who will push that across the
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: finish line. That's what happens in 13 days. Your calls
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: after this break. Jeff Stein in for Todd on the
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Todd Starnes Show. Welcome back to the Liberty University studio
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: and the Todd Starnes show. Jeff Stein filling in for
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Todd today. Todd will be back behind this mic. tomorrow,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: making his way back to home base in Memphis after
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: a big trip to Houston. And Todd and I exchanged
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: a few texts. I saw some of the pictures on
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: social media. The book event, and all of this was
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: sponsored by the great Starnes affiliate, Patriot Talk 920 in Houston,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: the station built on American values and the foundation of
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: our country as a Christian nation. And every Tuesday they
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: have a 2A Tuesday event at Collectors Firearms. And who
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: has it better than Todd Starnes? Well, not me, I'll
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: tell you what. Here's a picture of him standing outside
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: a military vehicle, parked outside collector's firearms for the book
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: signing for his book, The Golden Age, How Trump Saved America.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: So on Todd's behalf, he'll have many more stories to
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: tell tomorrow, but he wanted me to make sure that
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I let everybody in Houston know what a great time
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: he had and how appreciative he was for the huge crowd.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Patriot Talk, 9.20 a.m. in Houston in collector's firearms. They
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: were the host for it. If you're in that area,
• 21:04
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• 21:08
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• 21:11
  Speaker 2: there last night. And, man, you can always tell when
• 21:14
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• 21:18
  Speaker 2: on the person's face. And it's not one of those, oh, yeah,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I've got to take a picture smiles. I mean, I
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: don't know if he got behind the wheel of that
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: military vehicle and made his way through the parking lot
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: or not, but he sure looked like he could have.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: So again, Todd is back here tomorrow, and it's my
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: privilege to be with you until then. So thank you, Houston,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: for treating our man so well. Yesterday on this program,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: if you were with us, and if not, you can
• 21:47
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• 21:51
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• 21:55
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• 22:02
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• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know how this stuff works, okay? I produce podcasts,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: but I don't know what happens after I send them
• 22:11
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• 22:14
  Speaker 2: yesterday's show or any of the shows in this series,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: ToddCastPodcast at ToddStarns.com or, again, the Salem Podcast Network. Well,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: we were talking with Mark Meckler of Convention of States
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Action and talking about polling. And his comment was, there's
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: one word to describe polling in America these days, and
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: the word is garbage. Now, he's right, because the science
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: has not kept up with how we all live. Remember
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: the old days of polling. You'd do telephone surveys, and
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: you'd grab somebody's landline. Now, there was a problem, because
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: if they were at work during the day, they might
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: not be surveyed, and so you'd call at night, etc.,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: But you just called people because, quote, pretty much everybody
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: had a phone. Well, what happens when we've moved to
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: cell phones? You're going to have the same cell phone
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: number arguably your entire life, but the area code matches
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: where you got the phone. It may bear no relationship
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: to where you live. And so you can't do polling
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: that way. And now we've got the online stuff. The
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: folks who do polling tell you that they've got this
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: all figured out. I understand why they tell us that,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: but it under-reports Republicans by 3-5% easily every single cycle
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: in the Trump era. So, we've had concerns about the polling. Now,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: we have further evidence of how it's not just fake news,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: as the President says, but it's actually fake. This is
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: a story that broke yesterday. I'm looking at it on Mediaite,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: which I don't know that I would trust a lot,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: except I've seen this other places. Here's the story. A
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: national polling company cited in numerous outlets, including the New
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: York Times and MS Now, formerly MSNBC, that polling company
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: has revealed it simply made up its data and said
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: doing so was, in their words, Far too easy. Wedgewood
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Polls is the name of this organization. They had a logo, letterhead.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: It says, Your Voice, Our Mission. They're on the Twitter
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: X machine. I mean, it looks for all the world
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: like it's legitimate. But they posted last night on Twitter
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: X the following. Wedgwood Polling Public Statement. Wedgwood Polling, an
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: experimental project to demonstrate the vulnerabilities, lack of oversight, and
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: overall low barrier to entry in the modern political polling industry,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: makes this public statement. Having previously worked in the polling
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: and research sector, we watched as the public's trust in
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: polling eroded alongside a rise in unverified low-quality methodology. We
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: wanted to test a simple hypothesis. How easy is it
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: for an entirely fabricated polling firm to gain traction, be
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: taken seriously, and expose how little scrutinization exists in media
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: and public commentary? The short answer, far too easy. Now again,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: this is an entity, a fake entity, Wedgwood Polls. And
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: what they're basically doing now is coming clean and saying, yeah,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: we made all this stuff up and you folks ran
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: with it without checking who in the world we are
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: because you liked what it was we were saying. For example,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: MS Now just got all excited when there was a
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: poll in the Michigan race for governor showing the Democrat
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: with a 10-point lead. Oh, they put that on a
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: darn near a full screen because it fit their narrative.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Wedgwood poll statement continues. Despite having no history, formal credentials,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: or real data behind the vast majority of our releases,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Wedgwood polling was added to major polling aggregators, including the
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: New York Times, 50 Plus One, and VoteHub, and repeatedly
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: treated as a legitimate data source. All they did was
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: put their name out there and say, we have a poll.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: And these supposedly trustworthy journalism outlets that gather a bunch
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: of polls and then average them out, they said, oh,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: this looks good. We'll take this. Their statement continues, Our
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: fabricated numbers were given instant credibility across national media platforms,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: including being cited on air and in reporting by outlets
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: such as MS Now. The ease with which unverified figures
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: were absorbed into mainstream political narratives highlights a systemic breakdown
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: in media vetting and data aggregation. They say most of
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: this was generated to test whether media outlets would report
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: on data without verifying the source or the methodology or
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: the legitimacy of the firm. Now, then they said, out
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: of curiosity and for our own internal baseline, we did
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: conduct one fully legitimate crowdfunded Nebraska poll during this run. Well,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: that's nice. Now, they say, Wedgwood polling was never intended
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: to sway an election or permanently mislead the public. It
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: was designed as a wake-up call. Now, this is the
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: key point. As you evaluate the information you consume, upon
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: which you make major life decisions like voting, the fake
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: polling company, as they come clean, says if a fictional
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: entity run by a small group of industry veterans can
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: be integrated into major polling averages and cited by major
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: news organizations, then the standards for how polling data is vetted, aggregated,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: and reported must change. And they close by saying they
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: hope this sparks a conversation about integrity, etc. Oh, gosh.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: New York Times has now removed Wedgwood polls from their
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: tracking project. This is the second time polling company of
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: late to admit its findings were flat out made up. Now,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: these folks at Wedgewood say, we made the stuff up,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: but we were just trying to see, you know, if
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: we could get in. And they did. They snuck right
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: past the goalie. You might remember in August, something called
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Median Polling Strategies reported that the Democrat socialist Francesca Hong
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: held a commanding lead over incumbent Mayor Karen Bass in
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: the L.A. mayor's race After Hong was handily defeated, media
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: shut down when confronted about its data by the Los
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Angeles Times. In other words, some of these news organizations
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: finally figure it out. By the way, 50 plus one
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: is a polling site. They were using Wedgwood, the fake data,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: and then they started having questions. So they asked Wedgwood,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: where did you get this? How are you getting this stuff?
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Who are you people? Now, this is after they'd already
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: used it. But at least they started saying, wait a minute,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: this is a little too crazy. And that's what led
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: to Wedgwood Polls releasing the statement last night. There are,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: as Mark Twain once famously said, lies, damn lies, and statistics. Well,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: there are some numbers that lie. We've heard that People say, well,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: numbers don't lie. Sure they do, when you make them up.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: How many other polls are fake? I don't know, but
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: this calls everything into question, doesn't it? Whenever you see
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: a poll, you really need to find out what the
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: margin of error is, first of all, because that makes
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: a difference, and it's plus or minus, meaning both numbers
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: can move. You want to know how many people were surveyed.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: The more people surveyed in theory, the more accurate the poll.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: You also want to know who funded it. I'm so
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: tired of getting news releases from polling entities that tell
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: me one candidate is way ahead of another and they
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: are a Democrat polling firm or a Republican polling firm. Realistically,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: if you're a polling firm, you're supposed to be looking
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: at numbers. And in fact, the data that they share
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: may be accurate in terms of numbers, but you then
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: have to look at the way the questions were phrased.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Were they phrased in a way that was not neutral?
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: In other words, a way that would lead a respondent
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: to more likely give a certain response. The whole polling system,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: in other words, cannot be trusted. What we do know, however,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: is this is an election that is only only going
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: to be impacted if you show up the polls mean
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: nothing the polls now we know some are fake by
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: their own admission the polls mean nothing what matters is
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: if you show up and how you show up that's
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: it that's what matters 901-260-5926 we'll take your calls in
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: the next segment So there are some numbers that are fake,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: like those polls. There are some other numbers that are
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: absolutely genuine, and I'll share some of those with you
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: as we move along. Jeff Stein filling in for Todd
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: from the Liberty University studio on the Todd Starnes Show.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Liberty University studio and this Wednesday
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: edition of the Todd Starnes Show. Jeff Stein filling in
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: for Todd today. Todd is back from the book signing
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: event in Houston tomorrow on this program. And we look
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: forward to that. So in the last segment, I talked
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: about this fake company that admitted they hoodwinked supposedly reputable
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: news outlets. Notice I said supposedly. We're talking about New
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: York Times and MSNOW, etc. Total fake polling. They just
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: made it up. And the lapdogs who liked it, liked
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: the result because it fit their narrative, they just took
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: a big old drink out of that glass. Well, there
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: are some numbers you can trust, and they come from
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: the administration. And I want to share those with you
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: just after the top of the hour because there are
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: some really interesting immigration numbers that the administration is... releasing,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: and I want to have plenty of time to get
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: into that. So we'll do that just after the top
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: of the hour. But I have time right now for
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: another story that talks about corruption of formerly mainstream media.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Maryland has become the latest state to take steps to
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: help promote local news coverage on radio stations and other
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: media outlets. Governor Wes Moore in Maryland. No, he doesn't
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: have national aspirations, does he? Governor Westmore has signed an
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: executive order directing state agencies to prioritize Maryland news outlets
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: in their advertising spending. And it sets an aspirational goal
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: to spend 50% of agency ad contracts with Maryland news organizations.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: So in other words, the state spends money on advertising.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: That's not a surprise that that happens. but they want
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: to make sure that 50% of it goes to Maryland
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: news organizations. The initiative could create a new source of
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: advertising revenue for local radio stations, newspapers, TV broadcasters, digital
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: news outlets. The Maryland Board of Public Works approved $ 268
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: million in marketing and advertising contracts for state agencies last year.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: quarter of a billion dollars of tax money going for
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: marketing and advertising contracts. That's sizable. And even if they
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: dedicate a large slice toward local broadcasters, just a large
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: slice of it, that's going to have a big impact.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: In fact, the Maryland Delaware DC Press Association did not
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: know there was such a thing. But their executive director
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: is a woman named Rebecca Snyder, and she says, this
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: executive order, directing taxpayer money to news organizations through the state,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: this executive order reflects a practical shift in how we
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: support local news. By directing existing resources more intentionally, Maryland
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: is strengthening the systems people rely on for timely fact-based information. Now,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I work in radio. I love it when people spend
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: money to get messages out on radio. Because we know
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: radio works. You're a wonderful audience. You listen. These messages,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: they're proven to work. They're highly effective. But here's the problem.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: The state is writing a check to the news organization.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Does the news organization, now that they're getting that money
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: from the state, do they feel compelled to to report
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: on the state in a way that is more favorable
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: than might have been the case otherwise? New York City
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: did this, directing $ 72 million to community media, quote-unquote. I
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: think you know what that means. That's code for liberal.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Over five years, San Francisco, Chicago have done similar things.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: New Jersey legislators want to put it in law. If
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: a car dealer buys advertising on the radio station, if
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: a furniture store buys advertising on the radio station, you
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: have to put up a firewall to make sure that
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: that does not influence news coverage. I used to lead
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: seminars for journalists on ethics all the time, and it's like, okay,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: what if the son of your big advertiser gets picked
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: up for drunken driving? Do you report it? Do you
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: not report it? Et cetera. Because there's pressure, right? When
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: the state... Is directing money to broadcast and print outlets?
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Is there a quid pro quo? Is there another shoe
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: to drop? Does the state expect something? Just something to
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: consider because, again, you have to evaluate the quality of
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: the coverage you consume. You consume great coverage at ToddStarns.com,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: of course. Second hour coming up, Jeff Stein in for Todd.
• 38:00
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• 38:19
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• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Hello fellow patriots. Jeff Stein filling in again this hour
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: for Todd Starnes who's making his way back from a
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: huge crowd that greeted him in Houston last night for
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: a book signing for the great book The Golden Age,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: How Trump Saved America. It's been out a couple of months,
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  Speaker 2: behind his microphone. Tomorrow, my pleasure, be with you from
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: the Liberty University studio again today. Coming up at the
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: bottom of the hour, we will speak with Republican election
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: attorney Ben Ginsberg. about some of the things that they're
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: watching for to try to prevent shenanigans. I say shenanigans
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: and people say to me, well, that sounds innocuous. You know,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: that's just like, you know, fun and games. I can't
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: on the radio say what it really is. So we're
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: going to call all of this illegal activity shenanigans. And
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: we'll see. The last time I was here a few
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: weeks ago, we talked with Eagle Ed Martin about similar things.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Just getting ready, being in position across the country. So
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Ben Ginsberg joins us just after the bottom of the hour.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Your calls are welcome. Fire up that line and let
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: me know what you think.
• 40:09
  Speaker 9: 901-260-5926.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: That's 901-260-5926. So in the last segment, we talked about
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: some fake polling that was done. Literally fake. The people
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: have owned up to the fact that they did it
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: on purpose just to mess with formerly mainstream media. So
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: there are some numbers you cannot trust. You always have
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: to check the source. Here are some numbers you can trust.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: These are numbers that were actually put forth by the
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Trump administration through a news release yesterday. And you know
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: that it's true because the liberal left did not point
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: to any of them and complain that they're wrong. You know,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: everything that comes out of that White House is scrutinized
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: by all sorts of trolls sitting in the dark in
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: their parents' basement. You know, these are the people who
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: get paid to show up and disrupt rallies and then
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: go back home to their parents who voted for Trump.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: You know how that goes, right? Well, in any case,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: they would laser in on any data that would be wrong.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: They said nothing. They ignored this entire batch of data
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: because they don't want to draw attention to it because
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: they can't dispute it. This has to do with Immigration
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: and reversing open border policies. The headline is, The Trump
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: administration reversed years of open border policies and produced the
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: largest sustained drop in the illegal alien population in modern
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: American history. Now for the data. The illegal alien population.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: And let me just stop there for a second. There
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: are some folks who like to blow on about, well,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: no human is illegal. All right, children of God, totally
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: with you. But if they are in this country without
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: the benefit of status, paperwork, process, procedure, etc., what do
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: you call them? Because if they're here without benefit of law, they're,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: all right, I'll use it, criminals. So if you don't
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: like illegal alien population, how about criminals? You know, this
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: just drives me crazy. When we hear people say that,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: you know, we shouldn't deport these folks because they haven't
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: committed a crime. Well, actually, they did commit a crime
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: by being here So yes, they are illegal aliens. And
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: if you'd rather I call them criminals because they are
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: here illegally, I'll do that. But there are some really
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: good numbers here, and I want to share them with you.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: But first, I want to go to the line, 901-260-5926.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Brian is calling in from Winchester, Virginia. He listens on
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: the great affiliate WYNC. Brian, thanks so much for joining
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: the conversation. What do you think about these polls we've
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: been talking about?
• 43:46
  Speaker 9: Well, Jeff, it's great to hear your voice. I'm a
• 43:50
  Speaker 9: great fan of Mr. Stearns and also of you. And
• 43:56
  Speaker 9: it's nice to be able to talk to you. It's
• 43:59
  Speaker 9: the very first time I've ever called. I have talked
• 44:03
  Speaker 9: to Mr. Starnes before. But my perspective on the way
• 44:13
  Speaker 9: these polls are skewed, it's because I come home to
• 44:19
  Speaker 9: my house. I live in rural Virginia, like the Winchester area.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 44:28
  Speaker 9: And I come home, and I still have a landline
• 44:33
  Speaker 9: and answer machines, these pollsters. Well, I happen to be
• 44:38
  Speaker 9: at work when they're calling.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 44:42
  Speaker 9: So I'm not able to engage with my opinion. So
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: as far as I'm concerned, they're not talking to me.
• 44:54
  Speaker 9: They consider me as a hang-up, and that's a no vote.
• 44:59
  Speaker 9: But I am voting, and I'm definitely a conservative. I'm
• 45:03
  Speaker 9: a Republican. I'm a Christian. I'm a scoutmaster. I've got
• 45:10
  Speaker 9: three sons that are serving in the military right now.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, God bless.
• 45:15
  Speaker 9: They're all over in the street right now. Two Marines,
• 45:20
  Speaker 9: one Navy.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 45:22
  Speaker 9: And, you know, we... You know, I got.
• 45:28
  Speaker 9: Two flagpoles in my front yard. The highest one flies
• 45:32
  Speaker 9: the American flag.
• 45:34
  Speaker 10: Yes, sir.
• 45:34
  Speaker 9: The other two flags that fly on the second pole
• 45:40
  Speaker 9: are United States Navy, because I was Navy, and my
• 45:43
  Speaker 9: oldest son is Navy, and under that one is the
• 45:48
  Speaker 9: Marine Corps flag. We're Americans. We love this country, and
• 45:55
  Speaker 9: daggone it if they're going to take it away from
• 45:57
  Speaker 9: us with this deceit and lies and misrepresenting who we
• 46:05
  Speaker 9: actually are. We are benevolent. We are God-fearing. We love
• 46:12
  Speaker 9: our country. Leave us alone. And I'm not.
• 46:18
  Speaker 9: I have been to 19 different countries and I've never
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: seen a more graceful, and peaceful country than what I
• 46:31
  Speaker 9: lived in. And we are, we should not be the
• 46:37
  Speaker 9: world's policemen, but that is the role that God gave us.
• 46:44
  Speaker 9: And if we have step in, we don't want to
• 46:46
  Speaker 9: step in, but daggone, we're going to, you know, uh,
• 46:54
  Speaker 9: I always had a saying, um, You know, you get
• 46:59
  Speaker 9: into an argument, and it's like, you know, you can
• 47:06
  Speaker 9: throw the first punch, I'll throw the last one. No,
• 47:10
  Speaker 9: I'm going to take the first punch. Why take a punch?
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Well, it's like they used to say, somebody else may
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: start it, but by gum, I'm going to finish it.
• 47:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but why wait for it to start? You go
• 47:23
  Speaker 9: ahead and start it, right? That's why, you know... you know, hey,
• 47:28
  Speaker 9: we got, you know, we could have knocked out Iran on,
• 47:35
  Speaker 9: you know, February 8th, you know.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:40
  Speaker 9: It would have been a one-day war, and now we're
• 47:45
  Speaker 9: eight months into it, but, you know.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: But that's also, is it not, and again, thank you
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: for your service. Thank you for your boys wearing the
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: uniform so that somebody like me didn't have to. I
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: have much respect for that, but You know, yes, we
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: could have wiped them out on day one, but that
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: includes a lot of collateral damage, and we're better than that, right?
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're trying to minimize this.
• 48:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely. That's the restraint and that character. That is
• 48:12
  Speaker 9: what our country is built on. We stand above, you know,
• 48:18
  Speaker 9: the whole, you know, that nonsense from the liberal parties,
• 48:24
  Speaker 9: you know, saying when, you know, They go high, we
• 48:28
  Speaker 9: go low. Yeah, they do. And we don't go low.
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: Not in my world.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: No.
• 48:34
  Speaker 9: You know, and that's the United States military. It doesn't
• 48:37
  Speaker 9: matter if you're a Coastie, a Cake Eater, Air Force.
• 48:43
  Speaker 9: We always use Peck on those dudes because they're better
• 48:47
  Speaker 9: than us. You know, if you're a Swabie, if you're
• 48:52
  Speaker 9: a serial pipe sailor, it's in a submarine. If you're
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: a Mud hen, you know, a jar head, a leather neck,
• 49:03
  Speaker 9: or if you're in the rear with the gear. It
• 49:06
  Speaker 9: don't matter. On, you know, as soon as the first
• 49:09
  Speaker 9: bullet flies, everybody's on the same team.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
• 49:13
  Speaker 9: Because we all bleed red. We're, you know. white is
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: our piece and we're blue collar and tell me brian
• 49:26
  Speaker 9: i'm college educated you know um i i speak like
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: a redneck because i am you know and it's rural dialect.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with that sir Yeah.
• 49:39
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but it is a pleasure to speak with you,
• 49:42
  Speaker 9: and I won't waste any more of your time.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not a waste. I appreciate the call, but
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: I have to ask, what do you do for a living?
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Because you've made an excellent point. The pollsters call when
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: folks are working. The folks who are freeloading, not working,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: they're the ones who answer and respond to polls. What
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: do you do for a living?
• 50:00
  Speaker 9: I'm a maintenance engineer. My degree is in engineering.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 50:06
  Speaker 9: And I'm a maintenance engineer. I'm a set-up, tool, and
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: die guy. I was a machinist mate in the Navy.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 50:13
  Speaker 9: And I was also a UDT, underwater demolition team. I
• 50:17
  Speaker 9: was a UDT, served with UDT-4, which I wasn't old enough.
• 50:26
  Speaker 9: It's the feeder program to be a Navy SEAL.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 50:32
  Speaker 9: You go through the same training. Yeah, I got the
• 50:36
  Speaker 9: same SEAL training, but I aged out. Well, I didn't
• 50:41
  Speaker 9: age out. I ended up getting married.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: That was a good choice, though. That was a good choice.
• 50:48
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I made three boys and three wonderful patriotic boys.
• 50:56
  Speaker 9: They're all Eagle Scouts. I was also an Eagle. And
• 51:01
  Speaker 9: we did it back when it meant something. You know,
• 51:06
  Speaker 9: it wasn't all just moving. You know, I was a
• 51:14
  Speaker 9: scoutmaster for a number of years, and you take these
• 51:17
  Speaker 9: young boys out, and every kid wants to learn how
• 51:22
  Speaker 9: to start a fire and how to use a pocketknife.
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: And the first thing you have to teach them is
• 51:28
  Speaker 9: how to put out a fire.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 51:31
  Speaker 9: You don't teach them how to build a fire until
• 51:33
  Speaker 9: you put out the fire. And you hand them a
• 51:36
  Speaker 9: plastic butter knife with a stick of butter. And that's your,
• 51:42
  Speaker 9: you know, very first experience with a knife. And you
• 51:46
  Speaker 9: let them carve some canoe or something out of a
• 51:49
  Speaker 9: stick of butter. Yeah, yeah.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: But that's doing it right. That's the key. That's doing
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: it right.
• 51:57
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's when you get into the metal knives and
• 52:00
  Speaker 9: tomahawks and all the good stuff. But, you know, in sleeping,
• 52:06
  Speaker 9: you know, in the woods and, you know, these little
• 52:09
  Speaker 9: kids go bang on your tent in the middle of
• 52:11
  Speaker 9: the night.
• 52:12
  Speaker 8: Mr.
• 52:12
  Speaker 9: Merrick, I'm scared, you know.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Brian, I tell you, speaking of work and business, we've
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: got bills to pay, so I'm going to have to
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: leave it there, but I cannot tell you how glad
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: I am that you called. I hope you call back
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: to this program, whether I'm here or not. Talk to
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Todd anytime. God bless you and your family for doing
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: it right and for reminding us all how most of
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: America lives. Thank you kindly, sir. I appreciate it. I
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: had a great time talking with you.
• 52:43
  Speaker 9: Wonderful speaking to you also, sir. Thank you so much.
• 52:46
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Take good care. Ryan calling in from Virginia, listening to WINC.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: This is what I love about this program. America calls
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: in and you get to remember what America is like.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: And we'll do more of it. 901-260-5926. Short break now.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Back on the other side from the Liberty University studio,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Jeff Stein in for Todd. This is the Todd Starnes Show.
• 53:07
  Speaker 9: Music.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Liberty University studio and the Todd
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Starn Show. Jeff Stein filling in for Todd. 901-260-5926. That's
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: the number that Arnaz used to call in from Memphis,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: listening to the flagship, the Mighty 990. Arnaz, thanks so
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: much for taking the time. You've been paying attention to
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: what's going on in Ohio. Tell me about it.
• 53:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah. First of all, thanks for taking my call.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: It.
• 53:41
  Speaker 8: Look, politics is nasty. We know this. It can get
• 53:44
  Speaker 8: low on both sides. We know this. If you watch
• 53:48
  Speaker 8: politics at any length of time, this is not news.
• 53:54
  Speaker 8: But yesterday was a little different. With Vivek Ramaswamy, Ramaswamy
• 54:02
  Speaker 8: is running for governor in Ohio. And he's running against
• 54:05
  Speaker 8: Amy Act. And he put out a commercial, or I
• 54:11
  Speaker 8: can't say if he put it out or endorsed it, whatever.
• 54:14
  Speaker 8: But it basically had Amy Acton's mother basically saying that
• 54:20
  Speaker 8: she can't be trusted, she's untrustworthy, this, that, and the third, right?
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 54:24
  Speaker 8: Any other day, I would be like, okay, wow, that's
• 54:26
  Speaker 8: a big deal because you got somebody's parents coming out
• 54:29
  Speaker 8: saying they're untrustworthy. But when you dive into the story,
• 54:34
  Speaker 8: you realize that her mother... Like, she hasn't had contact
• 54:40
  Speaker 8: or has had any relation with her mother in almost
• 54:43
  Speaker 8: 50 years because her stepfather sexually assaulted or sexually abused
• 54:50
  Speaker 8: her and her brother, and her mother actually took the
• 54:55
  Speaker 8: side of her stepfather and stayed with him until he
• 55:00
  Speaker 8: passed away.
• 55:01
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: And the fact that to use that as a political
• 55:05
  Speaker 8: ad whether rama swami knew the context of it or
• 55:11
  Speaker 8: not that to me that that that that angle i
• 55:16
  Speaker 8: can't say that's a new low but that's.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Pretty low now the information i have arnez is that
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: it was the official rama swami campaign for governor that
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: put the ad out and that they're spending four million
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: dollars to do it uh and i saw one analyst
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: say oh this is kind of a low ad but
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: You know, this is the kind of stuff you wait
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: for the weekend before the election. Well, early voting has started.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, we don't just have the weekend before the election.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: We have so much more time. I've only got 30 seconds.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Tell me what really offended you about that ad, please.
• 55:50
  Speaker 8: It's the fact, to me, what bothered me was just
• 55:53
  Speaker 8: the fact that if you really took the time to
• 55:56
  Speaker 8: understand why, you.
• 56:00
  Speaker 9: Know.
• 56:01
  Speaker 8: Why her mother said what he said, he probably wouldn't
• 56:04
  Speaker 8: have put that ad out. And that's part of the
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: reason why he's doing damage control in Ohio right now.
• 56:11
  Speaker 8: Because it's going to be a close race regardless. But
• 56:16
  Speaker 8: that ad did not do him any favors whatsoever.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, could backfire very much so. Arnaz, thanks for calling
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: in and listening to the Mighty 990 in Memphis. I'll
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: have more to say on that later this hour now
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: that the topic has come up. Election attorney Ben Ginsberg, though,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: after this break on the Todd Starnes Show. Welcome back
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: to the Liberty University studio and the Todd Starnes show.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Jeff Stein filling in for Todd. He is back tomorrow
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: from the book tour in Houston and will be behind
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: this microphone then. 901-260-5926. If you'd like to join this
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: coast-to-coast conversation, we'll take your calls in just a few moments.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: But first, I want to go to the Patriot Mobile
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: newsmaker line. And welcome Ben Ginsberg. Mr. Ginsberg is one
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: of the most well-known Republican election lawyers in the country.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: These days affiliated with the Principled Leadership Project, online principledleadershipproject.org.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Ben Ginsberg, Jeff Stein filling in for Todd Starnes today.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining the program. How are you? I'm good.
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: Thanks for having me, Jeff.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Tell us about Principled Leadership Project. What is this sort
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: of thing and how did you become involved?
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: Well, I became involved because I've been doing election law
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: for 40 years and worked a lot with Republican candidates
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: and with election officials as well. And so there's obviously
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: a lot of discussion, shall we say, about the upcoming election.
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: And this is an attempt to sort of take what
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: 40 years teaches you and talk about the reliability of elections.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Now, I'm coming to you from the state of Iowa.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: And I've mentioned to this audience here on the national
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: show before, even we have a Republican secretary of state,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: even the Democrats seeking the job admit they have no
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: concern about the accuracy of the vote or the integrity
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: of the vote process. So that's a pretty good thing.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: But there are folks who have concerns. What are some
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: of the things that you hear people are concerned about?
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: And are the concerns valid?
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, we have 10,000 election jurisdictions in this country,
• 58:45
  Speaker 6: and so that means it's a very, very local process
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: run at your community level with some overlay from the
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: state and a little bit from the federal government. So
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: what people are concerned about is that the voter rolls
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: in their states are accurate and kept up to date,
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: and there are no illegal voters casting ballots. I think
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: people have concerns. about the accuracy of voting machines, because
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: that's a little bit of a black box that can't
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: be understood. I think the actual casting and counting of
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: votes in their own communities, people have a lot of
• 59:25
  Speaker 6: faith in, but they're not so sure about other communities
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: in their states that they're not as familiar with. So
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: you've got a little bit of a big sprawling system
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: that people don't always have the ability to pop up
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: the hood and really inspect what's underneath.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: And that's an interesting point because we have seen it
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: for decades in public opinion polling where people will say,
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: They hate Congress, but they like their member of Congress, right?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: It's the thing that's the distant object that's bad as
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: an entity broadly, but they like their own. You're suggesting
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: it's somewhat similar where they believe in their local area,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: but geez, I don't know about these other folks.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a little bit of natural doubt about it
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: that I think fuels the concerns about elections. Now, for
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: better or worse, I have spent a few decades going
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: around and looking for mistakes in the election system and
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: looking for problems. I've done recounts and contests in almost
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: every state in the country. And so that's a chance
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: to really do some inspecting. And I think you have
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: to be honest about the evidence that's been produced. And
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: the truth is, I think our election systems are reliable
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: and accurate. because I haven't seen any proof to the
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: contrary that there's some sort of systemic problem with it. Again,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: 10,000 jurisdictions, so there are going to be mistakes. It's
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 6: a very human process. We want to do this in
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: our local communities, but it means there is some lack
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: of consistency among jurisdictions, and mistakes do happen, but the
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: overall results are reliable, and if people don't think a
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: particular election is reliable... They have the opportunity to seek
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: a recount or do an election contest or go to
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: court to be able to deal with those issues.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Ben Ginsberg is our guest, GOP election lawyer, principledleadershipproject.org. He
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: joins us on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line. Jeff Stein
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: in for Todd Starnes on the Starnes Show today. Election certification.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Explain what that is and why that's something that you
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: feel is important that people understand fully.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: Sure. Well, the process itself differs from state to state,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: but the basic components are the same. All the totals
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 6: on election night are sent to the county level. The
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: county then counts up all the votes from its jurisdictions,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: sends those results to the state for the certification process.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: That occurs, again, depending on the states. somewhere between a
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: week and five weeks after the election, and all the
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 6: races in the jurisdiction are tallied up, and a certificate
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 6: of election is signed by the appropriate state authority, usually
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: a governor, sometimes the secretary of state, sometimes both, sometimes
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: somebody else in other jurisdictions. And that certification is the
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 6: evidence that a particular person has been elected to office.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: So for Congress, for example, the certificates of election from
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 6: the Iowa Secretary of State's office would be sent to
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: the clerk of the House of Representatives this year, and
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: that would determine who gets seated in the results. Similar
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: for the state legislature, for all the statewide office holders.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: And so that certificate is the proof of who won
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: the election is determined by the state authorities.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Now, as you look at things, and you've mentioned there
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: are people who have concerns in a jurisdiction or another,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: but as anyone listening to this national radio program today,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: if they're thinking about the upcoming election and they have
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: just concerns, maybe it's curiosity, they don't know enough about
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: the process, what should they be looking for in order
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  Speaker 2: to give them peace of mind that it's a fair fight,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: shall we say?
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Well, the single best thing you can do is to
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: ask your questions of the relevant election authority, the election
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: official in the jurisdiction you have questions about. I found
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: that election officials are more than willing to answer questions.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: They're very transparent. I think the single best thing that
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: somebody who has questions about the process can can do
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 6: is to actually go and volunteer. Sometimes they're even paid
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 6: positions for the government, for the entity that's putting on
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: the elections, and volunteer and see it from the inside.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: So before the election, you can kick the tires by
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: asking the relevant election official. And then on election day,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: you can become an election worker and see from the
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 6: inside what's actually happening in the polling place in the
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: counting house.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: People talk a lot about elections and being able to
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: trust it. And with social media, you get all manner
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: of frenzy, shall we say, getting whipped up. And in
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: this era where people can doctor videos, you have no
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: idea what you're really looking at. Let's close with something
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: perhaps positive. I mean, what's the takeaway to secure in
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: people's minds the fact that We always need to be vigilant.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: We need to participate. We need to really be paying attention,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: but the house is not on fire.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, the real key, again, is to recognize
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 6: that social media and even cable television is all going
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 6: to come at you from a particular attempt to get
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: more eyeballs on it. It may not be completely accurate.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: So like anything else, being an eyewitness to the process
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: is the single best thing you can do. And to
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 6: remember that when you talk about elections, they really are conducted.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: People who sign in voters and who count the ballots
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: are all local folks from that community, number one. And
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: number two is that in every state, there is a
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: procedure for allowing observers to look at the elections. And
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: so every candidate and every political party is eligible to
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 6: send people to the exact places where ballots are being
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: cast and then later where they're being counted and to
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: observe the process. So again, the firsthand experience is most important.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: And most election jurisdictions today have live streamings. of what's
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: going on in their counting houses. And so on election night,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 6: if you're worried about the way it's being done, there
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 6: is a way in most jurisdictions, especially the larger jurisdictions
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: where people are most susceptible or suspicious, that they can
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 6: actually look at what's happening there.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: GOP election attorney Ben Ginsberg, principledleadershipproject.org. Thanks so much for
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: taking the time to join us and bring some light
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: to the topic. I appreciate it.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: Well, thank you, Jeff. Thanks for having me.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Take good care, sir. And Mr. Ginsberg joined us live
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line. 901-260-5926. If you'd like
• 1:07:32
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• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: or bring up one of your own, we'll continue from
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  Speaker 2: the Liberty University studio in a moment. I want to
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: go back to something that our caller from Memphis, Arnaz,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: brought up before the break. And this had to do
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: with that political ad in Ohio in the race for governor.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: And I have some thoughts on it that I'll share
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: with you after we take the break. Jeff Stein in
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: for Todd. Thanks for being along on the Todd Starnes Show.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Liberty University studio and this Wednesday
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: edition of the Todd Starnes Show. Jeff Stein filling in
• 1:08:12
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• 1:08:21
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  Speaker 2: the radio tomorrow. 901-260-5926. Let's go to that line. Barry
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  Speaker 2: calling in from Fort Myers, Florida, listening on the website
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  Speaker 2: of the home, the mothership, the home base, Mighty990. com. Barry,
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  Speaker 2: thanks so much for calling in. What's on your mind
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: about voting?
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  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, I've got to tell you, I
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: ran the systems and programming department. I'm an engineer myself, actually,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: an electrical engineer. And I will tell you, when they
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: switched over to computer accounting, I knew it.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 6: Was no good.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: There was a real problem there. You could bury code
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: inside there, and that's when coding was static. Now it's
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: all dynamic. So you can even run a test on
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: the code and then change it on the fly today.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: It is so dangerous, it's not even funny. And I'm
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: in the... From the old school, where I believe, you know,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: keep it simple, stupid.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, quite frankly, the more complicated we make this,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: I know it's easier to count and it's easier to
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: do stuff, but it's easier to cheat as well when
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: you're using computers. Very easy. It's easy to bury code
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: in there. Then we've got dead people voting all over
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: the place. We've got mail-in ballots that are, we just
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: set up to cheat. Literally was set up to cheat.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: And they use, you know, the only thing on a
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: mail-in ballot is on the outside envelope has someone's signature.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: Once you take it out of the envelope, you can
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: keep putting it into that machine. There's no name on it.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: And if it's the Democrats, which tends to be the case,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: you can keep adding Democratic votes to people continuously by
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: just running it through their machine. I mean, this is nuts.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: Talk about nuts.
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  Speaker 9: I wouldn't trust it.
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't invest in it if it was an investment
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: because I know it's crooked. There's no doubt about it.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: And how crooked depends on where you are, I guess.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: Not every state is crooked, but I would say that
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  Speaker 5: it's very dangerous, the situation we have now, to keep
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: it honest. Even with good auditing, it would be very
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: difficult to keep it honest.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry for interrupting you, Barry. I didn't mean to
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: do that. But, you know, what system is safer, for example? Now,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: here's why I ask the question, because... You folks listening
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: at home, you should know how your state and your
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: municipality handle things. If the machines are not independently at
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: polling places hooked up to the Internet, does that give
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: you an added level of security? In other words, Barry,
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  Speaker 2: what I'm trying to do is draw on your expertise.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: Where's the trouble spot? Is it these machines that are
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: all interconnected because we think it's cool as opposed to
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: just taking a pile of ballots to the courthouse and
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: counting them like we always used to?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the problem is in a lot of places.
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  Speaker 5: First of all, it could be in the code. All
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: you've got to do is change 5% of the vote.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: That's all you've got to do, and you could bury
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 5: that in the code, and no one would even know,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: and now you would get another candidate because elections are
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: about 5% different many times. That's all you need to
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: change it, and nobody would know.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 6: It's buried right in the code.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: In the mail-in ballots, like I said, you could take
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: a whole bunch of ballots processed already, Select out the
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: candidates you want on those ballots, the ones that voted
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 5: for them, and resubmit those same ballots.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 8: I mean, we.
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  Speaker 5: Know in the 2020 election there were more people voting
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: than there were people.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: So it was ridiculous. We had the highest number of voting,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: way more than.
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  Speaker 9: Any other election.
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  Speaker 5: That doesn't make sense. I mean, when you really think
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: about it, that didn't make a lot of sense. We
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: got illegal voting, and we have— I mean— Like I said,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: the mail-in ballots were set up to cheat. No ifs, ands,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: or buts about it. And as far as them talking
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: about having an ID, my God, you need an ID
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: to go on a plane. You need an ID to
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: go into the bank and cash your check. Don't tell
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: me people don't have IDs. That's ridiculous. Again, I like
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: to keep it simple. Just go in with your ID
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  Speaker 5: like I do. and you just show your ID, they
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: have me in the book, they sign me in, and
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: I go and I vote, and it's a one-time thing.
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  Speaker 5: Everything else you could cheat easily on it, believe me.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: And people have shown that they're experts, and really experts
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: in cheating. And it's very dangerous for a democracy, a
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: country like ours, when the people aren't getting the people
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: they're voting for, They're not too happy about it, I'll
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: tell you that. When they find out, they're not going
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: to be too happy about it. I just think it's
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: a dangerous situation. We should never be using computers. It's
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: too easy to cheat on a computer. I know it
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: simplifies things, accounting, but it really makes it very difficult
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 5: to keep it honest.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you are so right, Barry. What a smart call.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening. On the Mighty990. com and calling
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  Speaker 2: in from Fort Myers. I hope you have an excellent day.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: That was such a smart call that Barry made because,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: because with computers, right? When they're interconnected, don't we worry
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: about viruses? I mean, you at home, don't you worry
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: about a virus on your computer? Don't you worry about
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: a computer meltdown? I mean, I worry about the computer.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: I was doing editing of audio at home the other night.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: And as I'm editing the audio, all of a sudden
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: I hear like this, you know, clicking sound. And I
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: got the blue screen of death on the computer with
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: the little frowny face that says, please stand by. We're
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: getting information. And I thought, oh, this is not going
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: to be a good night. Well, the bottom line was
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: the computer crashed, but it came right back and everything
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: was fine. But that's not always the case. And what
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: we have found is when you have these voting machines,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: to Barry's point, for convenience. Yeah, we'll hook up to
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: the internet and they'll just get the total right away.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: You introduce problems you didn't need to introduce. Now, I
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: will tell you in my state, we fill out the
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: little circles on the Scantron, put it through the voting machine,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: and then they take the ballots and that non-internet connected
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: drive with a police escort to the courthouse to count it. Now,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: that works here. It may not work everywhere. We need
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: to figure this out without any question. Well, that's a
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: good way to end our number two. Third hour coming up,
• 1:15:01
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• 1:15:04
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• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: ends from the last hour. We had a caller talking
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: about the political advertising in Ohio. And I want to
• 1:18:00
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  Speaker 2: Podcast Network. So Vivek Ramaswamy is the Republican running for
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: governor against Amy Acton. It's a tight race. And Vivek
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: Ramaswamy's campaign issued an ad, they produced it, and they're
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: spending $ 4 million to run it, and it features Amy
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: Acton's mother, who says, don't vote for my daughter. That's
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: the short of it, all right? And as I mentioned
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: last hour, there were some analysts who said, boy, that's
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: a devastating announcement. ad, but you wait until the last
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: few days. So there's not time for backlash. Well, here's
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: the problem. That's kind of old school thinking, because if
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: y'all go to vote on November 3rd, we all do
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  Speaker 2: the same thing. I mean, that's what I do. I
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  Speaker 2: go on November 3rd, whatever election day is, and I
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  Speaker 2: vote in person. But a lot of people vote earlier.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: And so you have to roll out some of these things.
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  Speaker 2: You can't just do a last weekend ad because there
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: is no last weekend anymore. Well, this ad has, there's
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: been some problems because the Democrat candidate, Amy Acton, her
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: mother is the one in the ad saying, don't vote
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: for my daughter. Well, the Democrat candidate was apparently a
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: victim of sexual abuse at the hands of her stepfather.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: And her mother, the one in the ad, chose the stepfather,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: took his side, and they've been estranged for decades. All right?
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: It's a messy family situation. Now, here's... I saw the ad,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: and the mother... is a troubled person. That doesn't mean
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: that what she's saying is wrong. I'm just saying she
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: appears to be troubled, perhaps tormented. Now, here's the thing.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: One of the things I had the privilege of doing,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: and I've been blessed in so many ways, but I
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: have had the ability to do many things. And as
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: a licensed attorney, I worked with the state attorney general's
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: office and developing protocols for prosecution of domestic abusers. And
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: as part of that, I learned that those, primarily but
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: not exclusively women, who are the victims of domestic violence,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: or that sort of a relationship, they will do things
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: like this where they side with their abuser At the
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: expense of their children. It's part of the dynamic, the fear,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: the codependency. It is much longer than I have time
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: to get into. But the bottom line is that there
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: is a lot going on beyond a 30 or 60
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: second political ad. There's a lot of family dynamic here
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: that's at work. And it's tough stuff. And I don't
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: know that that is the most credible source to bring
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: out to say don't vote for this woman in a campaign.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Now, I have met Mr. Ramaswamy on
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: four occasions when he was running for president. I mean,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: I'm in Iowa. I see him, right? I mean, that's
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: part of the deal. We did two TV shows with him,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: had him in the studio for a radio interview, had
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: him for a listener event with other presidential candidates. So
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: we were familiar at one time. I like to think
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: that he's a decent person. However, I also think he
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: plays to win. And so they pulled this ad out
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: of the library and put it out there. It's... You
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: go this hard, there could be the chance for backfiring.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: And literally, after our caller from Memphis last hour brought
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: this up, my radio station email, I get all manner
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: of emails from candidates and campaigns. I got an email
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: from whatever mailing list handles Amy Acton's campaign fundraising. It's
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: a fundraising email. She's now fundraising based upon the ad. So, A,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: does the ad really hit? I don't know. B, she's
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: now turning it to her advantage through fundraising, and C,
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  Speaker 2: by saying double victimization. I don't know. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what to think of it. I can tell you it
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: is a Ramaswami campaign ad, and they have taken ownership
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  Speaker 2: of it. The problem to me in some of these
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: very close races, that doesn't tell us anything about what
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  Speaker 2: you're going to do in office. And I understand policy
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: can be boring at times, but all of this stuff tells,
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  Speaker 2: this is how we figure out how you're going to
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  Speaker 2: do once you're in office. So I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: pile on and be one of those who says that
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  Speaker 2: ad was terrible. I can't say that. I can say
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  Speaker 2: that the person that they have as the spokesperson, the
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  Speaker 2: mother of the Democrat candidate, I think there were some
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: cycles in there with regard to domestic relationships. I don't
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: know that it was necessary to go there, but I
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  Speaker 2: know it's being talked about and maybe not for the
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  Speaker 2: right reasons.
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  Speaker 3: 901-260-5926.
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  Speaker 2: I also wanted to talk to you about some of
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  Speaker 2: these immigration numbers. And I'll mention just two before we
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  Speaker 2: go to the break. The illegal alien population has been
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: reduced by at least 2.3 million. That's just the illegal part.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: More than 3 million migrants have left the country during
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: President Trump's second term. That's roughly a year and a half.
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  Speaker 2: That is the largest reduction in illegal immigration in modern history.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: At least 2.3 million illegals have been shown the door.
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  Speaker 2: making it the largest reduction in history. 1.2 million illegal
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  Speaker 2: aliens have been deported or removed, nearly 1.3 million illegal
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  Speaker 2: alien arrests have been carried out, and the U.S. recorded
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  Speaker 2: negative net migration. Negative net migration last year for the
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  Speaker 2: first time in at least 50 years. There's more on
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  Speaker 2: that that I'll share in a moment, but Look at
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: what's happening in Europe. Look at what's happening in a
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: place like Michigan. Look at what's happening in pockets around
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  Speaker 2: the country. Todd has talked to you about this. You
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: let people in who want to do you harm. You
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: know what they're going to do? They're going to do
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: you harm. And if you can get rid of the
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: people who want to do you harm, okay, that's the
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: right direction to go. So we have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: fake numbers out there. These are numbers you can trust.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll have more of them. Here's another number you
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  Speaker 2: can trust. 901-260-5926. Call it and weigh in. Your calls
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: after this short break. Back on the other side from
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: the Liberty University studio, it's Jeff Stein filling in for
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: Todd Starnes. So glad you're with us on this edition
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: of the Todd Starnes Show. And we continue from the
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: Liberty University studio, this third hour of a Wednesday edition
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: of the Todd Starnes Show. Jeff Stein filling in for
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: Todd today. He makes his way back from a huge
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: crowd that greeted him in Houston yesterday. He'll be back
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: behind this microphone tomorrow, 901-260-5926, to continue the Coast to
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: Coast conversation, if you'd like. So this is kind of frightening.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be on Newsmax tomorrow. Nobody needs that.
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  Speaker 2: Quite honestly, nobody needs that. President Trump will be doing
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  Speaker 2: a campaign rally in western Iowa tomorrow late afternoon, early evening.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: And so against their better judgment, or maybe they thought
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: they were getting somebody else. But the folks at Newsmax
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: have asked me to join Wake Up America tomorrow at
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: 830 Eastern, 730 Central. And then I guess I'm moving
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: over to The Deuce. Newsmax 2 for the News Now
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: program just after 9 o'clock Eastern, 8 o'clock Central. So
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: you've been warned. You can't say I didn't warn you.
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  Speaker 2: You can't say, oh my gosh, look at that hideous
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: figure on television talking about politics in Iowa. I told
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  Speaker 2: you I'd be there. We'll see. We've got some, I mean,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: TV's fine. I like radio, but TV's fine. So we've
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: been going through here today. Fake numbers, real numbers. We
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: now know that some of the polling is exposed as
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: deliberately being fake to prove a point. I don't know,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: what's the point? Election interference? Well, here are numbers that
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: came from the administration yesterday on immigration, and they are
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: solid numbers. Catch and release was ended. 17 straight months
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: of zero releases at the border. Fiscal year 2026 was
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: the first year in U.S. history with that result. In
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: Trump 2.0, illegal southern border crossings were cut by 95%
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: from the Biden-era levels. The lowest number of illegal border
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: crossings in American history, thanks to Donald J. Trump. Entries
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: by asylum seekers at U.S.-Mexico entry points in Trump 2.0
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: have been slashed by 99.9%. Well, no one's perfect. In
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: the Bible, administration, more than 50% of those seeking asylum
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: got it. It was a rubber stamp or an auto pen.
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  Speaker 2: Asylum still granted, but just in 7% of cases, the
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: ones where it actually applies. The immigration court backlog has
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  Speaker 2: been reduced from more than 4.18 million cases to under
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: 3.09 million. That's the sharpest decrease in history. More than
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: 12,100 gang members have been arrested. That includes more than
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: 1,500 Tren de Aragua, nearly 2,000 MS-13. How about drugs? Again,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: this is the success list of the Trump administration, and
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: these are verifiable numbers. Nearly 1 million pounds of narcotics
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: have been seized through Customs and Border Protection in the
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: last fiscal year. That's 63% above the prior four-year average.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, 63% above the Biden years. More than
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  Speaker 2: 624,000 pounds.
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  Speaker 2: Interdicted by the Coast Guard. That's more than a quarter
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  Speaker 2: million pounds of cocaine included in that amount. Fentanyl trafficking
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: at the southern border has dropped by 56%. And as
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: a result, fentanyl-linked deaths in our country dropped 22% in
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: a single year. Forget promises made, promises kept. How about
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: safety for citizens? Fentanyl-linked deaths in this country dropped 22%
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: in a single year. Drug overdoses broadly have fallen by
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: more than 40% from the peak during the Biden era.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: America recorded its lowest overall death rate ever in 2025,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: driven in large part by sharp declines in drug fatalities.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: This next statistic is really important given what's going on
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  Speaker 2: in the world in Europe. Europe on fire. Migration from
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  Speaker 2: majority Muslim countries has been cut by 96% since 2024.
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  Speaker 2: Overall migration cut in half. Visa issuance is down 89%
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  Speaker 2: for those from Africa, down 81% for those from the
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: Middle East. That's part of America First. Take care of
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: our people first. Protect our people first. The safety of
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: our people first. Border-related deaths dropped nearly 80% in the
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  Speaker 2: last fiscal year compared to the time of the Biden administration.
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  Speaker 2: More than 300,000 visas have been revoked, and that includes
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: at least 4,000 tied to birth tourism, 6,000 from foreign
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: students who committed crimes or are tied to terrorism. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: come on over to our country so we can educate
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: you and you can do us harm. What a brilliant idea. Well,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: they've stopped that. And those people are leaving. More than
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: 157,000 unaccompanied alien children who were lost under the Biden
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  Speaker 2: administration have been found. Used to hear that a lot,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: that the Trump administration was separating families. Okay, I'm just
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: going to read this again because it's verifiable statistical information.
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  Speaker 2: More than 157,000 unaccompanied alien children who were lost under
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: the Biden administration, many lost to sex trafficking, forced labor,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: and other atrocities, well, they've been found in the Trump administration.
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  Speaker 2: This is historic progress, and it is absolutely necessary to
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: preserve our safety. This is not political. This has to
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: do with our safety. So while you may hear random
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: companies claim to do a poll, we now know that
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: many of them, at least two that have been discovered,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: flat out make up numbers for fun as part of
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: a project or an experiment or sport. Forget that kind
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: of stuff. These are the numbers to go by as
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: you make a decision on November 3rd or whenever you
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: decide to vote. These are the numbers. This is the platform.
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  Speaker 2: This is what you voted for two years ago. And
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: this is what you can vote for again. Mr. Trump's
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: name's not on the ticket, but his policies sure are.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: And do you think electing Democratic socialists, you're going to
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: get this kind of results? No, sir, no, ma'am, you
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: are not. Back on the other side, short break now.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: Jeff Stein in for Todd from the Liberty University studio.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Todd Starnes Show.
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  Speaker 11: Final half hour of a Wednesday edition of the Todd
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 11: Starnes show from the Liberty University studio.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Stein filling in for Todd today. Big event last
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: night in Houston. Thanks to Patriot Talk 990 and, uh,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: or 920. I keep saying 990. That's, uh, that's Memphis.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Patriot Talk 920 in Houston. And, uh, Great
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: book signing for The Golden Age, How Trump Saved America.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: And Todd will be back here tomorrow where he belongs. Now,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: we've been talking a lot, and you've heard others talk
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: about it on this program, that this is not the
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: time for a big old civil war in the Republican Party.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: That's what primaries are for. Right now, it's time to
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: marshal all the resources, get out the vote, and get
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: this president's agenda accomplished. And you have a far better
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: chance of doing that with a Republican in the seat
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: as opposed to anyone else. Now, I don't normally read
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: verses from the Bible on the radio. That's not my brand,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: as they say. That's not a comfort area. Religion to
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: me is deeply personal. Faith is deeply personal. But I
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: came across this in a reading the other day. And
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: I wanted to share it with you because it was
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: in a different context. But then I thought about this
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: election and how you have some folks on the MAGA
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: side saying, I can't vote for that Rhino Republican. I'll
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: vote for a third party or I'll stay home or whatever.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: And I'm telling you not to do that, not to
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: stay home. hold your nose if you have to, but
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: vote for the person on the ballot who has the
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: best chance of helping the Trump agenda. It's Mark 3,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: 24 and 25. A kingdom divided by civil war will collapse. Similarly,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: a family splintered by feuding will fall apart. Now, how
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: does that play in? Well, it's pretty obvious. If The
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: Republican coalition, the folks who support Trump, the Trumpicans, the
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: regular garden variety Republicans, and common sense independents, they all
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: need to get together. That's the coalition for victory, and
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: there are subsets within that. Yes, the Hispanic vote in
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: the same number as two years ago, etc., But if
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: the Republican family feud plays out on election day, you
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: ain't seen nothing yet. And you're not going to like
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: what you see. Now, I'm, as they say, preaching to
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: the choir here, I would assume. But again, as I've
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: mentioned to you all before on this program, when Todd
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: has been kind enough to allow me to be here,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like the buddy system, right? Don't go
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: swimming alone. Take a buddy. Okay, don't vote alone. Take
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: a buddy. You heard me talk earlier with a candidate
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: for the U.S. Senate from Iowa. If you're listening half
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: a continent away and you know people in Iowa, how
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: about you remind them to do the right thing when
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: it comes to the election? How about looking around your
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: neighborhood to make sure that people actually show up? I
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: did mention this yesterday. Farmers, it's a late harvest in
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: many parts of the country. This could be a problem
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: on election day. And so you've got to make a
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: plan to vote. Maybe it's going early. Maybe it's doing
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: the absentee if there's still time to get the ballot.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: Every state has different rules. But the bottom line is,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: don't be so busy you can't get out. And don't
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: have your nose out of joint because of some slight
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: and lose everything. Come together. That is the best way
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: to do it. because once again, the kingdom divided against
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: itself cannot stand. The family splintered by feuding will fall apart.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: Do not let that happen. There's plenty of time for
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: healing the wounds of but don't take it out on
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: the ballot that's the problem 901-260-5926 if you'd like to
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: contribute to the conversation Donald Trump is coming to my
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: state of Iowa tomorrow And as mentioned, the folks at
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: Newsmax are kind enough to have asked me to join at,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: I guess, 830 in the morning on Newsmax and nine
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: in the morning on Newsmax, too. Those are Eastern times.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: Why is the president out there? Well, I thought of
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: this and I shared this with my audience here on
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: the home station last week. I got to see Michael
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: Jordan play basketball once. And it was sort of before
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: he became Michael Jordan. He was still pretty good. It
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: was 1984. And I was in Iowa City, and the U.S.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: Olympic team had a scrimmage or an exhibition or whatever
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: you call it at the college basketball arena there. And
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: that's the first time I really, I don't know, he
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: made the Olympic team, got the gold medals as well
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: as when he was at North Carolina. And I, you know,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: was just a casual observer. I go to the event,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: and it's like, who in the blazes is that guy?
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: He's really good. Well, there's a story. I don't know
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: if it's true, but it floated around at various times,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: that prior to the last play of a game, okay,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: Jordan's team, whatever team it was, could have been high school, college,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: I don't remember. Story may not even be true. But
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: they drew up the play for the last shot. And
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: somebody else was going to take the shot. And Michael
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: Jordan said, you know, I really think I should take
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: the shot. And the coach supposedly said, Michael, there is
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: no I in team. To which Jordan supposedly replied, but
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: there is in win, so give me the darn ball. Now, again,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a true story, but I
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: like it. I like the attitude. The attitude is, you
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: give me the ball, I'll bring home the win. And
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: that brings us to the Donald Trump cross-country, day-night, multiple
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: events that are multiple hours long in a single day. Because,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: you see, Michael Jordan... always wanted the ball. There are
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: some people who are like, maybe he should do it.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: I don't want to step up. I don't want the pressure.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: They don't have the confidence. Jordan always wanted the ball.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump always wants the ball. Donald Trump believes that
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: he can put himself through force of will on the
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: ballot because he knows that his base turns out for him,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: but not as much in other years when other people
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: aren't on there That's why he's going around the country saying,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: pretend I'm on there, it's that important. He wants the ball.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: It'll help in some areas for turnout, without question. And
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: it's going to be necessary. In other words, in order
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: for the Republicans to win, the Trump coalition from two
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: years ago, the Trump voters, they have to show up,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: even though he's not literally on the ballot. And they
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: have to vote as if he were. Because this is,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: for good or bad, a referendum. Not a time for
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: message sending internally. Trump wants the darn ball. And that's
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: why he's doing it. And that's why you have such
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: transformational leadership with this White House. Because you've got a
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: guy in charge who wants the ball. Not one who
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: can't find his way off the stage. 901-260-5926. We have
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: another segment, and we've been talking about heavy stuff the
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: last couple of days, and I want to talk about
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: something a little more fun, and we'll do it when
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: we come back from the Liberty University studio after a
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: short break. This is Jeff Stein filling in for Todd
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: on the Todd Starnes Show.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: We continue from the Liberty University studio.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: Final segment of a Wednesday edition of the Todd Starnes Show.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: Jeff Stein filling in for Todd. Todd is back tomorrow
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: from the two-day trip to Houston. Great event, thanks to
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: the folks at Patriot Talk 920. And so Todd's back tomorrow.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: And it's always a privilege when I get the call
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: from the bullpen, thanks to Dylan and Helen and everybody
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: at Team Todd for making it such a great experience.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: My day gig is at News Talk 1540 KXEL, the
• 1:43:33
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• 1:43:38
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• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: We do a poll question every day, and I want
• 1:43:44
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• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: Will you be leaving any races blank? In other words,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: voting for no candidate in the November general election. When
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: you go in to vote, are you going to skip
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: certain races? Yes, no, or maybe. Go to kxel.com slash poll.
• 1:44:00
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• 1:44:03
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• 1:44:07
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• 1:44:11
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• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: Blue Sky. It's all at Iowa Politics. That's I-O-W-A at
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  Speaker 2: Iowa Politics. And I'll be on Newsmax apparently tomorrow on
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: the original Newsmax at 8.30 in the morning Eastern and
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: on the Deuce Newsmax too just after 9 o'clock talking
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: about President Trump's trip to Iowa tomorrow. All right, we've got,
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  Speaker 2: we've had a lot of heavy topics. This is a
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: heavy time. 13 days before the election. But we need
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  Speaker 2: to keep ourselves fortified. And I want to ask Dylan
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  Speaker 2: to join me for this. Are you a snack food guy?
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  Speaker 10: I do enjoy goldfish occasionally. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How about chips? Do you sit there with a bag
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  Speaker 2: of chips and watch sports or anything?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, sometimes.
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  Speaker 12: If I'm really feeling down on myself, I'll sit there
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  Speaker 12: and eat an entire family-sized bag. But it never really
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 12: gets that bad.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so glad you mentioned that because they've downsized
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: the size of things. And so what used to be
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: a party size, it's like, that's a pretty pathetic party
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  Speaker 2: if that's going to serve everybody. But Lay's potato chips, right?
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  Speaker 2: It's a great brand that we all well know. I
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: think they've gone too far, Dylan. I think they've gone
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  Speaker 2: too far with their Holla Lay's lineup. They have special
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: flavored chips. for the holidays oh my gosh yeah this
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: is not going to end well first of all who
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: came up with this dill pickle uh you know that
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: everything has to be pickle flavored no thank you.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah i i read that my generation gen z is
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 12: obsessed with that taste and i don't really i'm not
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  Speaker 12: part of it and i can't i can't get behind
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  Speaker 12: that i.
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  Speaker 2: Mean you give me a little sour cream and onion
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: uh you know ruffles or lays okay i'll play yeah
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  Speaker 2: um but you know just give me the original and
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: a Big tub of dip. But anyway, now I've distracted myself.
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  Speaker 2: On the 25th of October, what is that? Sunday. If
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  Speaker 2: you go to the grocery store Sunday, there are two
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: new holiday flavors of Lay's. One, cheddar scalloped-style potatoes flavor. Now, really,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: that's just cheddar.
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  Speaker 10: That's so specific, too. I don't know what.
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  Speaker 2: Cheddar scalloped style potatoes.
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  Speaker 9: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the one that I apologize to the audience in advance.
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  Speaker 2: There will be a new flavor of Lay's potato chip
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  Speaker 2: called holiday turkey flavor.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 10: They didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I think they did.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 8: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Now, see, here's the problem. There's some people listening who
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: will see this, and they'll go, oh, I wonder what
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: that's like. It's horrible, people. I'll just tell you from
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: the outset. If you go to the Kroger, skip the
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: holiday turkey-flavored Lay's.
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  Speaker 12: Well, you know, I guess if times are tough, you
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 12: can't get that turkey this year, you know? You set
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 12: up the Lay's chips, and maybe that's all you need.
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  Speaker 10: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't. Turkey's fine. I like turkey. But am
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  Speaker 2: I wrong? It really has no taste, does it?
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  Speaker 10: No, you've got to season that thing up.
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  Speaker 2: See?
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: You've got to either... drown it in gravy or season
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  Speaker 2: it up. So when you tell me it's a Turkey
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: flavored potato chip, it's like bland. There's no, there's no
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: flavor to turn. All right.
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  Speaker 12: Well, you know, Lays Lays has been doing that, right?
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  Speaker 12: They've been doing those special flavors. Cause in America, there's
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 12: only a limited amount of flavors, but I know that overseas,
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  Speaker 12: like in China, I think there's several different kinds of
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 12: like ketchup flavored mustard flavored Lays chips. Maybe it's because
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 12: they don't do those sauces over there that well, but like,
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  Speaker 12: I don't get it.
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  Speaker 2: Ugh. Okay.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Cheddar scallop-style potatoes and holiday turkey. That's on Sunday. But
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: they have not stopped there, my friend.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: On November 8th, as we've gotten through the election, Lays
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: will introduce maple bacon chips.
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  Speaker 10: Okay. I don't know if we're getting better or worse.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's not better. Well, but this is, how can
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: you fight this description? This is the news release. It's
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: the perfect balance of sweet maple flavor and smoky bacon
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: taste in every crunchy bite.
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  Speaker 1: No. No. Stop.
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  Speaker 10: Just stop.
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  Speaker 12: Again, yeah. That's a breakfast food. I'm not replacing my
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 12: pancakes with a Lay's chip.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Just give me the bacon. Yes, I know it's a
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: commitment for the pig, but give me the bacon. That's
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: all there is to it. All right, so... There's a
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: contest also on this where you can win a sweater.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: What would the sweater look like? I don't even want
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: to know. Prizes on this contest include chip bowls, a sweater,
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: a multi-cooker, an oval casserole, a charcuterie set. I'm sorry,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: we call those meat and cheese trays where I come from.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: But here's where we really We're going to crash this
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: Starship Starnes with this one. Starting in December, because holiday
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: turkey-flavored Lay's and maple bacon-flavored Lay's will be such a success.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: Starting in December, you can get Lay's Wavy Milk Chocolate
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: Chips and Lay's Wavy Dubai-Style Dark Chocolate Potato Chips. Are
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: you in?
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  Speaker 10: I don't know.
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  Speaker 12: Like I, I, so when I eat chips, sometimes I
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 12: will want the savory, like the sweet, the salty. I
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 12: just don't know if that goes well with it. I
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 12: I've heard of like the chocolate covered chips before. Those
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 12: aren't the worst thing ever. So this is probably the
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 12: best one out of those like holiday. And then the
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 12: bacon one that this is probably the best one, but
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 12: still probably no.
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  Speaker 8: I see.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a flavoring as opposed to like coverage.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 10: Yeah, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like, okay, so I'm going to pick up
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: my Lay's wavy potato chip, and it's going to taste
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: like chocolate.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's going to look like a chip, but taste
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  Speaker 10: like chocolate. Yeah, that's no, no.
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  Speaker 2: That's going to mess my brain up.
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  Speaker 9: Really?
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 10: Yeah, seriously.
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  Speaker 2: Because I have a hard enough time just getting through
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: my day. But it's milk chocolate, and if you're really
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: into it, the Dubai style dark chocolate. I don't know
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: what that is, but it sounds– sounds snooty again.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 12: It's so specific like the maple and the bacon and
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 12: the dubai chocolate like who's the testing group this for
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 12: like how many different flavors did they have to try
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 12: out before someone concluded on yeah dubai's the best one
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 12: out of these.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: That is such an excellent point who came up with
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: the ideas that didn't make the cut and how hideous
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: are those oh my gosh Okay, so I'm going to
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: put you as a no on turkey-flavored potato chips?
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, please.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: Which you might want to do because the election is
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: stressful for all of us. When Todd gets back on,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: you know, after the election, when he comes into work,
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: he's not going to be gone. But when he comes
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: back in, just why don't you put one of these
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: bags of maple bacon chips on his desk and see
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: how that goes.
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  Speaker 10: I'll see if I still have a job after that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's been nice working with you. Thank you, sir. Okay, Lays,
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  Speaker 2: God bless you. I'm not doing it. I'm going for
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: the straight flavor and the French onion dip, and that's
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: as close to France as I intend to get. Thanks
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  Speaker 2: to everybody at Team Todd. Thanks to all of you.
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  Speaker 2: You're the absolute best. Liberty University Studio, Jeff Stein signing off.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the Todd Starnes Show.