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Growing Up as Mike Woodson's Daughter - Mariah Woodson | Born To The Game Podcast · Born To The Game Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Let's start bring the phone call and how we are
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  Speaker 1: sitting here in these in the couch, so just set
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  Speaker 1: us up.
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  Speaker 2: So I need to preface this by saying I want
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  Speaker 2: to parse my words, okay, because I can't be I
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  Speaker 2: want to be extremely candid when I share this story,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna do my best to keep it cute.
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  Speaker 1: This is one till the game.
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  Speaker 2: Legacy is weak in every beating line, the president peak,
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  Speaker 2: we're running on us and it's timeless song, but read
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  Speaker 2: us time this time alone on to the game.
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  Speaker 1: Carrying in the plane, it goes to the path, but
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  Speaker 1: it's annoy lay.
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  Speaker 2: Were runs and Proclane. This is on to the game.
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  Speaker 2: Legacy is Explora. Welcome to Born to the Game.
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  Speaker 1: Produced by our Coamedia Group in partnership with Inflection Network
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  Speaker 1: and distributed by iHeartRadio. This is a space where the
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  Speaker 1: children of iconic athletes, entertainers, and cultural figures share the
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  Speaker 1: real experience of growing up inside Legacy. Today, we're sitting
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  Speaker 1: down with the woman who built the platform, not as
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  Speaker 1: the host, but as the guest. Mariah Woodson grew up
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  Speaker 1: immersed in professional basketball as the daughter of NBA player
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  Speaker 1: and coach Mike Woodson. But her story isn't just about
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  Speaker 1: proximity to the game. It's about identity, resilience, pivots, and purpose.
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  Speaker 2: Today we're hearing her story and we're at the end
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  Speaker 2: of this. They're going to be like, why did I
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  Speaker 2: decide to be very up up here with us? It's
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  Speaker 2: the hosting with us. But it's a great day. So
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  Speaker 2: I love this.
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  Speaker 1: I love that it's time to flip you to the
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  Speaker 1: other side of the couch. This is your baby, this
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  Speaker 1: is your vision, and let's just let's can we just
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  Speaker 1: start there? Can we start from the phone call? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: let's start from the phone call and how we are
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  Speaker 1: sitting here in these in the couch, So just set
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  Speaker 1: us up.
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  Speaker 2: So I need to preface this by saying I want
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: to parse my words because I can't be I want
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  Speaker 2: to be extremely candid when I share this story, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to do my best to keep it cute
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  Speaker 2: and class cute. But there were a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: that led up to that moment. Before I called you.
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  Speaker 2: Dad was coaching at Indiana University. Things are getting hot
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  Speaker 2: and heavy in the streets, and I was seeing things
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  Speaker 2: online that we're painful, tweets, hateful, hateful tweets, death threats,
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  Speaker 2: were losing, He's getting booed. You know, this is the
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  Speaker 2: place where he called home. Assembly Hall is a place
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  Speaker 2: where he helped to hang banners. He's a Hall of
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  Speaker 2: Fame FA. You know, this was his dream job. Essentially,
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  Speaker 2: he was in the league for you know, a hundred years.
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  Speaker 2: And then he goes back to his his alma mater
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  Speaker 2: and he gets booed. He's getting threatened over over games.
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  Speaker 2: And and the craziest part about before I called you,
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  Speaker 2: when he got booed at home, they still had a
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  Speaker 2: winning record. They weren't even losing. And so I was
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  Speaker 2: seeing just a lot of just social media talking and
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  Speaker 2: alumni on social media talking shit about him, Podcasters getting
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  Speaker 2: on a podcast, you know, just spreading so many false
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  Speaker 2: narratives about him, his team, what was going on behind
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  Speaker 2: closed doors. So I had enough, and you know me, Tamay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm quick to to to take out my Twitter fingers
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  Speaker 2: and get it popping, like I. I got in trouble
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  Speaker 2: for it multiple times within that year, cause I I
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  Speaker 2: would tweet something back and I'll sit and I'll I'll
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  Speaker 2: look at my phone and thirty minutes later, my dad's
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  Speaker 2: calling me, ripping me to shreds don't don't respond to anything,
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  Speaker 2: and so I had enough, and so I've called you
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  Speaker 2: and I was yap, yap, yap, and I'm like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: over this. I wanna create a platform where I have
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  Speaker 2: my own safe space to really talk about what's going
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  Speaker 2: on at Indiana University because everything that I'm seeing and
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  Speaker 2: these podcasters and other media outlets that's having an opinion
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  Speaker 2: and sharing their truth, they they know absolutely nothing. I can.
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  Speaker 2: I can get up here and set the record straight
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  Speaker 2: on so many things. But again, I'm I'm calling you
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  Speaker 2: out of a place of pain and frustration because I
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  Speaker 2: felt helpless that I was. Essentially, I felt like I
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  Speaker 2: was sitting back allowing people to say things about my
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  Speaker 2: father and I wasn't sticking up for them. So I
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  Speaker 2: called you and I'm like, I want to create my
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  Speaker 2: own podcast, my own space, get my own microphone, and
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  Speaker 2: put all these people on blast. So I'm like, would
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  Speaker 2: you help me create this podcast? And I want to
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  Speaker 2: call it Born to the Game because I'm pissed, and
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  Speaker 2: you were like, okay, you know what, look like I'm ready.
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  Speaker 2: I really I think I was rambling on for like
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  Speaker 2: thirty minutes and you were just at the end of it.
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  Speaker 2: You were like, so when you want to start lines,
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  Speaker 2: we ride, Because baby, when I took you, I was
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  Speaker 2: ready to ride. I was ready to knock. If you bucked,
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  Speaker 2: I was ready to I was calling it like I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was just ready to to just fight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I want to. I do want to
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  Speaker 1: add that, like, that's that's that's our family. We have
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  Speaker 1: a really strong female I mean between the women and
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  Speaker 1: our family, we stick together. And the back and forth
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  Speaker 1: and hearing what you guys were going through, we were
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  Speaker 1: all ready to fight.
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  Speaker 2: It was a real life battle. And I had to
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  Speaker 2: take a step back after I called you because I
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  Speaker 2: knew I still wanted to have a podcast about just
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  Speaker 2: what life was like for me and hearing from my perspective,
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  Speaker 2: because growing up in this business, everyone is used to
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  Speaker 2: telling your story and everybody thinks that they know. And
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  Speaker 2: so I said to myself, well, this is a painful
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  Speaker 2: experience for me, and I know I'm not the only
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  Speaker 2: one dealing with this, So why don't I take this
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  Speaker 2: experience and turning it into something that I can make
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  Speaker 2: positive for other kids or family members in my shoes.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's when I decided to take a step
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  Speaker 2: down from the petty train temporarily and not make the
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  Speaker 2: podcast about myself and allow other kids to come to
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  Speaker 2: the couch and share their stories about what it's like
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  Speaker 2: being born to the game. And they came and they
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  Speaker 2: shared some incredible stories so far. So that's how we are.
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  Speaker 2: We got to this point today, and that is the
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  Speaker 2: purpose and how we got from just again feeling like
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  Speaker 2: we were at the bottom of the ocean, sinking by ourselves,
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  Speaker 2: to now feeling like, oh, we're out of it. We're
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  Speaker 2: out of the storm, and now let me just use
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  Speaker 2: that moment for something good.
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  Speaker 3: It's an interest to take pain, Yeah, turn it into
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  Speaker 3: both purpose and passion exactly, like you into a purpose
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  Speaker 3: in creating platform for others and then for this community.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then like you can hear in your voice the
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  Speaker 3: passion that you believe in it. Yeah, you believe in
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  Speaker 3: the storytelling, and that you believe in everyone being able
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  Speaker 3: to speak for themselves and control the narrative. You spoke
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  Speaker 3: earlier about kind of you know, oh you know, don't respond,
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  Speaker 3: don't mess it up. And I think it was Zeke
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  Speaker 3: who said in season one, like, don't hurt the brandy,
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  Speaker 3: and so it's interesting to have, you know, this idea that.
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  Speaker 4: You are an individual.
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  Speaker 3: You're an individual with desires and likes and things that
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  Speaker 3: are important to you, but you are a part of
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  Speaker 3: something bigger too. And so I really am excited to
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  Speaker 3: dive in this conversation and understand from from your perspective.
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  Speaker 4: What's like bouncing those two things, bouncing.
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  Speaker 3: That individual side, the fiery side that you know you
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  Speaker 3: want to, you know, jump out and say no if
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  Speaker 3: you do like whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Because we used to call her the beast back the
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  Speaker 1: she was little. We called the beast because she's so okay.
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  Speaker 1: Our grandmother Door Doris, bless her heart. So if we
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  Speaker 1: ever say Doors is coming out, it means that you're
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  Speaker 1: about to get your ass handed to you, basically, because
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  Speaker 1: our grandmother is that kind of person.
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  Speaker 2: So back when when.
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  Speaker 1: Mariah was small, we used to carve the beast because
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  Speaker 1: she would lay your I mean in kindergarten her.
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  Speaker 2: I think Uncle Will was scared of her.
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  Speaker 1: Like I really did, because she was so like she
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  Speaker 1: just held she did not hold her tongue at all.
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  Speaker 1: So the restraint that she has taken because when she
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  Speaker 1: wanted to go go on there and and do this.
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  Speaker 2: It took restraint.
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  Speaker 1: I know you did, because you know she's she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mince her word.
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  Speaker 2: But again, you know they as.
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  Speaker 1: A family, they there is an image that they have
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  Speaker 1: to keep up. So I'm I'm That's what I'm most
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  Speaker 1: proud of is that you at least carved away for
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  Speaker 1: yourself and others to speak. And we had other guests
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  Speaker 1: that just said it too, that you know, I want
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  Speaker 1: to talk to you.
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  Speaker 2: You have all this stuff to say, I want to
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk too.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm most excited about that as well, Evan, that
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  Speaker 1: we we've we have this path that we can go
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  Speaker 1: on and we can hear all these stories and all
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  Speaker 1: these different families and how they came to be.
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  Speaker 3: So like like, when was the first time you recognize
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  Speaker 3: that I'm part of something bigger?
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  Speaker 2: So a lot of people don't know. But I didn't
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  Speaker 2: necessarily grow up in the game. I was born to it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't really my life didn't become like I guess
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  Speaker 2: immersed in it until I got to high school. So
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  Speaker 2: I grew up in Katie, Texas. My dad was coaching
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  Speaker 2: in Detroit Cleveland, where was he Milwaukee as an assistant.
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  Speaker 2: My mom kept us home in Katie, so they decided
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  Speaker 2: to do it. I don't know if it's if it's
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  Speaker 2: an most some families decide to travel with the dads.
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  Speaker 2: My mom and dad decided it was best to keep
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  Speaker 2: us separate. So I didn't really know much about what
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  Speaker 2: my dad did for a living until he got his
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  Speaker 2: very first well, no, that's a lie, I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 2: until he got his first head coaching job with the Hawks.
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  Speaker 2: But when he won the championship with Detroit. Again, I
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  Speaker 2: mentioned before when we were talking with Zeke that the
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  Speaker 2: first time I realized that he wasn't a referee was
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  Speaker 2: when he was a Belief coaching in either Milwaukee or Cleveland.
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  Speaker 2: So that just tells you then then there, I had
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  Speaker 2: no idea really what the man did. I just knew
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't really home, like I would see him every
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  Speaker 2: now and then, he would miss birthdays, holidays. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: my mom explained to me what his job was, but
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  Speaker 2: it didn't really click. It didn't register. But I do
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  Speaker 2: remember going to Detroit. I do remember us playing the Lakers.
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  Speaker 2: I remember us winning the championship. I remember us doing
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  Speaker 2: the parade and the celebration. I remembered that, but it
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  Speaker 2: still wasn't part of my everyday lifestyle. It didn't really
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  Speaker 2: affect me yet because we were still in Katie and
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  Speaker 2: I had my own friends, there was no social media.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have to deal with the bullying. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: really have to deal with the negative consequences of being
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  Speaker 2: born into the lifestyle. Right, So it really hit me
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  Speaker 2: when he got that head coaching job in Atlanta and
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  Speaker 2: we moved with him. So now I'm with him all
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  Speaker 2: the time. I'm going to games every other day, and
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  Speaker 2: so now I'm really experiencing what this NBA lifestyle is,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm realizing that this should ain't cut out to what,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what people think it is. It's it really
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  Speaker 2: isn't hype. It's not hyped up to what a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people think it is. Because for us, Dad won
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  Speaker 2: twelve games that year. Imagine what I had to go
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  Speaker 2: through when when I'm in high school.
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  Speaker 1: I'm no I was a young team though that team
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  Speaker 1: was so the.
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  Speaker 2: Oldest player was probably Joe John's which was I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: send you this clip. It's probably twenty two. But I
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  Speaker 2: went from being sheltered in my little home in Katie, Texas,
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  Speaker 2: not even seeing a basketball Like we probably watched games
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  Speaker 2: every now and then, but just it wasn't part of
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  Speaker 2: my lifestyle. So now I'm moving from my childhood home Katie,
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  Speaker 2: Texas Tota to Atlanta. Let's not even talk about the
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  Speaker 2: cultural difference. And my dad is the face of their
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  Speaker 2: professional basketball team and they aren't doing well. They only
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  Speaker 2: won twelve games. There's eighty two games in a season.
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  Speaker 2: So that was a huge adjustment for me because I
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  Speaker 2: had to deal with bullying for the first time ever
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  Speaker 2: in my life. And then I had to just deal
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  Speaker 2: with again just other things that come with your dad
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  Speaker 2: being the face of an entire organization. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: would say that was the first time I realized, like,
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  Speaker 2: this ain't all that fun. Take me back to Katie.
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  Speaker 2: I liked my simple life. I liked my like.
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  Speaker 3: On like some families where you know, the family travels
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  Speaker 3: with the parents.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're always on the go when you're here.
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  Speaker 3: Now that you're there, and that wasn't throughout you took
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  Speaker 3: did that? How was that like not having your dad around,
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  Speaker 3: missing birthdays, missing important things in your life, like, talk
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  Speaker 3: to us about that a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I believed it was normal growing up, so I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know what I was missing until I was older, and
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  Speaker 2: then I looked back and I realized, oh shoot, Dad
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  Speaker 2: really wasn't there for a lot of things. A mom
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  Speaker 2: had to step in and really hold it down for
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  Speaker 2: the crew. So I normalized it. But I also remember
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  Speaker 2: times when he would come home and boyle boy, was
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  Speaker 2: I devastated when he had to, Like I vividly remember myself,
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  Speaker 2: like you know how it's all dramatic in the movies,
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  Speaker 2: or like someone's like falling, then you're sliding down the
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  Speaker 2: wall like no, you know, tears flowing when someone leaves.
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  Speaker 2: That's how it was.
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  Speaker 4: Like.
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  Speaker 2: Every time he hugged my sister and I goodbye, I
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  Speaker 2: cried for at least an hour. I would I remember
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  Speaker 2: the limo coming. We had one driver. He would come
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  Speaker 2: up the driveway and I would start crying because I
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  Speaker 2: knew that ment Dad had to leave. And then I
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  Speaker 2: remember watching the limo just drive down the street because
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know when I was gonna see him again.
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  Speaker 2: But again I still normalized it. But I think as
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  Speaker 2: I got older, I realized that I needed him around
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  Speaker 2: more during those years, and I just didn't have it.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't blame my parents for that, because that
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  Speaker 2: was the decision that they decided to make. Because I
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  Speaker 2: now looking back, I realized that I loved my foundation
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  Speaker 2: and Katie that I had. I thought it was great,
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  Speaker 2: my friends, the community. I had the best childhood in Katie.
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  Speaker 2: But I do realize that I missed having some of
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  Speaker 2: those just just interactions and experiences with my dad that
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  Speaker 2: I just didn't get to have.
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  Speaker 3: I've gotten to know you guys both over the past
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  Speaker 3: kind of seven months. It's been it's been amazing, and
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  Speaker 3: I one of the things that I really appreciate is
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  Speaker 3: your dedication to your family now that you are a mother.
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  Speaker 3: That's something that you said you are not doing right. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: your husband goes to Sacramento, you're going to Sacramento.
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  Speaker 4: You are doing it the other way.
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  Speaker 3: It's interesting that you were taking what you live yes
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  Speaker 3: and deciding this is good for me, this is not
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  Speaker 3: good for me, this is good for my family, this
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  Speaker 3: is not Yes. You know you have a son now,
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  Speaker 3: and it's really cool to see kind of you make
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  Speaker 3: that adjustment in real time and now you know me
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  Speaker 3: hearing this story for the first time from you seeing okay,
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  Speaker 3: like you're putting it into action. Yes and I think
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  Speaker 3: that that's as we look back at all the stories
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  Speaker 3: that you know, people have shared so far on this
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  Speaker 3: on this podcast, is like everything that you guys go
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  Speaker 3: through as children, you were absorbing and you were making
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  Speaker 3: conscious decisions about as adults. Yes, it was really awesome
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  Speaker 3: to kind of see that kind of change over time.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So when you were twelve, while we were talking
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  Speaker 1: about you know, Uncle Wood being away and Ontarry having
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  Speaker 1: to hold it down, you had a major surgery when
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  Speaker 1: you were younger, So can you talk about that and
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  Speaker 1: how that was like and how things had to continue
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  Speaker 1: He was on the road and had to continue while
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  Speaker 1: you had this life changing surgery.
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  Speaker 2: So when I was thirteen, I started playing volleyball. And
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  Speaker 2: before I got into volleyball, I was a competitive cheerleader.
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  Speaker 2: So imagine bringing on the movie. Cheerleading was huge in Texas,
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  Speaker 2: especially in Katie. Yeah, super competitive. So I was. I
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  Speaker 2: was a competitive cheerleader for years and then I grew
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  Speaker 2: and it don't look right when you're six foot and
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  Speaker 2: your other you know, cheerleaders are like five feet. So
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  Speaker 2: using my height for volleyball, and I would say maybe
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  Speaker 2: the first few months I started playing, my stomach out
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  Speaker 2: of nowhere shoots out. So the reason why I bring
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  Speaker 2: up cheerleading is because we wore two pieces. We wore
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  Speaker 2: crop tops and little tight skirts, and I was fit
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  Speaker 2: like I was tiny, and so when I transitioned into
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  Speaker 2: playing volleyball, and within a matter of months, like my
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  Speaker 2: stomach was so wide yaw, I couldn't when I looked down,
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't see my feet. I'm assuming that I'm gaining
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  Speaker 2: weight because I'm I quit cheerleading and competitive cheerleading and volleyball,
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  Speaker 2: the workouts that are required on opposite ends of the spectrum.
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  Speaker 2: I I was at the gym every single day when
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  Speaker 2: I was cheerleading, and so I'm thinking I'm gaining weight.
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  Speaker 2: So what I used to do was I used to
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  Speaker 2: sneak and go to I think it was like a
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  Speaker 2: CVS or Walgreens. And I used to take diet supplements
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  Speaker 2: at thirteen wow, because I thought I was gaining weight.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I was getting fat. And so I realized
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  Speaker 2: though that when I tried to lay on my stomach
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  Speaker 2: it was uncomfortable. I didn't say anything to my parents,
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  Speaker 2: though my dad n did mention that he noticed that.
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  Speaker 2: There was one time he came home and he tried
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: to take my sister around the track for a workout,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: and I couldn't make it around the around the track once.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: And I was a pretty athletic I mean, you know,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: tomorrow I was very athletic m And so he noticed
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: that I was I was becoming more and more sluggish.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: But most importantly, people started to notice that my stomach
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: was getting bigger. So I was at a volleyball camp
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: and one of the mothers approached my mom and was like,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: is Mariah, okay, we've noticed that her stomach has kind
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: of gotten a little round. But when we first met her,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: cause again, I'm tiny, and my mom was like, honestly,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I've noticed, but I didn't really know what say to
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: her because I'm thirteen, and you know, God forbid you
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: tell a thirteen year old you're you're looking a little round.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: It could have gone either way, and it was already
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: going one way. Just you know, internally, I was already
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: kind I was sensing something was wrong. I just didn't
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: know what it was. But then my coach came up
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: to my mother apparently, and so that day she took me.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: She decided to take me to see my pediatrician. The
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: very next morning. So get to the pediatrician's office and
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: y'all I'm in like crop top short shorts like. I
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: look back and I'm like, wow. They he probably really
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: thought I was out here, you know, pregnant. So he
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: takes so I get back. I get back in the room.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm just chilling on my phone. He looks
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: at me, he goes, when was your last your minstrel,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: we're grown here, we know what that is. I said, oh,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: six seven months ago. He looked at my mother and
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: he goes, miss Woodson, can I speak to see you
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: in the hallway? And at that moment I knew he
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: thought I was pregnant. Again. For context, I had never
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: kissed a boy in my life. I was not sexually active.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: He's outside talking to my mother. He comes in and
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: he goes, I need you to take two pregnancy tests.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I looked at him and I said, sir, I'm not pregnant.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: There is no chance I am pregnant. He looks at me,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: he goes, I've heard that story countless ns. Women girls
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: come in here and swear there is no way that
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: they're pregnant, and they end up being pregnant. I said, cool,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I have no problem, I have nothing to had. Let's
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: take this pregnancy test. So I took them both waited
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: like ten fifteen minutes. Came in, Oh, you're not pregnant,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: and I'm looking at him like I told you I
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: wasn't pregnant. But again, what it ended up being, the
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: chances of what it was almost slim to none. So
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: he goes, I want you to go down the hall
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: to get an ultrasound scan done. I said, sure, no problem.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: So him and my mom go down and I'll never
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: forget the look on the technician's face. She puts the
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: wand over my stomach and the whole screen goes black,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: which pretty much was an indicator that something foreign was
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: inside of my stomach. And it was so big that
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: it covered everything that was just all my organs. It
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: covered everything, and her face dropped. It looked like she
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: saw a ghost. Again. I'm thirteen. At this age, I'm
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: thinking I'm invincible and nothing really can bad happen to me.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I went through that phase in my life, didn't think
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: it was anything serious. Come back, wait for the doctor
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: to read us the results. He only calls my mother in.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting in the lobby by myself for like thirty minutes.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: She comes out. I could tell she had been crying.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I said, what happened? What did he say? She goes, oh,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: he told me you have a tiny little cyst and
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I need to take you to Memorial Hospital tomorrow to
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: do some more tests. I said, okay, cool, I mean,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: not a big deal. What what are you you know,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: crying for? Kind of like, you know, let it go.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I get home. I'm making me a turkey sandwich. My
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: dad's out of town for a coach's retreat, like an
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: annual NBA coaches retreat, And I can hear her whispering
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: outside on our like back patia, and so I'm making
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: a sandwich and I can hear her whispering, and so
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I kind of inch closer to the to the window,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: and she's like, she's whispering on the phone, and I
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: could tell she was talking to my dad, and she goes, Woodie,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I need you to get home now. This is serious.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: And so at that moment everything just kind of changed
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: for me, cause I'm like, what do you mean this
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: is something serious? You just said it was a Chinese cyst.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Make a long story short. I go to Memorial next
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the very next day, they thought it was cancer because
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: of how big it was. They kept saying that I
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: had a huge mass. They didn't tell me how, you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: they couldn't give me an accurate size, but they said
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: that it was huge and that there was a possibility
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: that it was cancer. And I remember hearing that and
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: everything changed for me because again I'm thinking, I'm this
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: like invincible thirteen year old living in my sheltered you
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: know community in Katie, Texas, where nothing bad ever happened
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: to me, and now you're telling me that I have
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I might have cancer. My mother literally fell on the floor,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: so one had to come, like nurses had to come,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: like pick her up. My dad sitting on the couch, motionless.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: No one is saying a word to me. And yeah,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the following week, I had to do testing every single day.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Took the tumor out. It was twelve pounds ten inches. Baby,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: it was a chair atoma tumor. I had skin, hair, fingernail, fingernails.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I believe I may have had an eye teeth. It
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: was huge. Thankfully it was not cancerous. I stayed in
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the before a week, but yeah, that changed my perspective
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: of life. Yeah, in such a big way. I ended
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: up having the surgery again a year and a half later,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: and I've kind of battled with ovarian tumors since then.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that was such a pivoting point in my
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: life because I again, I come from this like very
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: sheltered world where nothing bad happens to now you have
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: a twelve found tumor. Girl, you know, deal with it.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you also had to deal with the loss of
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: a really good friend of yours.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, and you're in h It was in high school
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: or was it before that? So it was after my
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: second surgery my best friend, my childhood best friend passes away.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Remember that, So Nicole cool? Yes, So I so who
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I am today and how I think has a lot
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: to do with my surgery and then losing my best friend,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: all within three years. Again, like you, I go from
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: nothing's bad. I've I didn't even realize people died early.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I thought death was something that only oh tapped out
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: the door of old people and cancer and all these things.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: And so I go from living in this bubble to
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: you may have cancer, you have this tumor, you have
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: to have surgery again a year and a half later
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: on the other ovary cause I took my right one
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: and the cyst came back on the other one. And
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: then within a few months of my second surgery, my
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: childhood best friend dies in a car accident. And I
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: just moved to Atlanta. It's rough for me. Told you guys,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Dad's team won twelve games. I'm being bullied every chance.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I wanna go home, and then I lose
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Nicole and I will never forget. I got the phone
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: call on my way to a volleyball practice. Jessica called me,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: and she was hysterical. Couldn't understand a word she was saying.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: She said, Nicole got into a car accident. And Nicole
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: got into a car accident. They had to life flight
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: her to the hospital. So I immediately call her as
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: if she was gonna answer. She didn't answer. I had
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: a final exam. This happened on like a Friday or
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: a Saturday, and I had a final exam on Monday,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: and so I was planning on going back to Katie
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Monday night. And so I'm in class first I just
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: got to class first period or so, nurse comes knocking
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: at the door and she says, hey, Mariah, can you
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: come with me to the nurse's office, and I'm like,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: all right, and I see my mother and my pastor
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: standing in the nurse's office and my mom looks like
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: she's obviously, you know, she had been crying. So she
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: just shook her head and I'm looking at her, like,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: what are you shaking your head for? She goes she
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: didn't make it, and so I you know, it's And
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: that was November twenty seventh, two thousand and seven. And
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: to this day, I still struggle with people calling me.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: It's like I can't get that that phone call and
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the shouting out of my brain. And so when people
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: call me, it's like my heart papitates, cause I'm like,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: why are you calling me? And if I answer, what's
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: gonna how you know what's gonna be on the receiving
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: end of this. And so to this day, I still
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: struggle with that. But her passing away just again, it's
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: just I was in this this weird, just phase of
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: my life where I'm seeing life for what it is
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: and I realize how valuable it is. I realize that
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: one day things can look completely different, right, Like my
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: whole world changed, even I mean I thought my world
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: changed after I had my surgery, Like I have a
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: pis a picture on my Instagram after I had my
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: first surgery where Nicole was in bed with me. You know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I have I ha, I have staples from here all
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: the way down. Nicole was this eighty bitty white girl,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: blonde hair, you know, just as cute as can be.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: She comes to see me at the hospital and the
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: doctor's like, ma'am, you can't touch her. You can't touch
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: her cause she's you know, she's stapled up. She looks
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: at the doctor, She's like, I'm getting in bed with
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: my best friend. So I have a picture just me
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: and her, laid up in bed fresh out of uh
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: a four hour, five hour surgery staples and I lost
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: her couple years after that. And so I think that
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: from those experiences I've I've gained a lot of just
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: empathy and understanding, just th just about how life works.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: And so I try not to sweat the small things.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I did go through an extensive period of depression and
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: anxiety I didn't realize was depression and anxiety, and it
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: actually carried over into my volleyball career and in in
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: a sense affected my volleyball career cause I wasn't very pleasant.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I didn't understand why I was so angry. I walked
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: around angry for almost a decade. Like I remember periods
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: of my life where I didn't laugh, I didn't smile.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: My mom would try to like take me shopping, and
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I would go sit at the front, like I had
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: no desire to really do anything fun. And it could
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: have been because I felt like at any given moment,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: it could be taken away. So why even why I
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: even go through the motions of this. But then it
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: clicked for me. I think when I s started working
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: in New York, when my dad was coaching the Knicks,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I was working for the Garden of Dreams Foundation and
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I worked with a lot of underprivileged kids and I
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: got to see these kids in the hospitals and and
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I think for me, that was the first time I
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: looked at them and I said, Wow, I want to
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: live my life in a different way. And yeah, I
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: just think ever since then, I've I've gained just again,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: appreciation for people and connections and understanding and empathy and
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: human decency, all of the things. Because at such a
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: young age, I felt like I just just the veil
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: was lifted. This I had this veil, and you know
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: it just it changed for me.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: But that's like a perspective and a story and a
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: part of you that anyone reading a newspaper, for anyone
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: who sees my Woodson, yeah and she's your last name,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: would just assume.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: That everything's great all the time.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: It seems that you.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Know life is great, not knowing the inner strength that
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: you've had to show to get through these things.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: And to become the person you are today.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's something that's super important early age.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I mean I started very very early. Yeah, so I
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: played volleyball, so I followed my father's footsteps. In the
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: athletic world. I didn't have much of a career, and
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I would say some of that was due to injury,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: and some of that was due to my attitude. I
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: always worked hard at my craft. But again, there was
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: an extensive period of time where I just was depressed.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I didn't know it because it wasn't something that we
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: really talked about and I didn't really care anymore. And
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: that reflected. Once I was able to get the help
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: that I needed and to snap out of it, I
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: really found a way to at least try to tap
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: into what my purpose is and I love connecting with people.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I love just working hard and grinding. And as I
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: got older, I really appreciated the connections my father made
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: for me, and I had shared this with you guys before.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: My dad has helped me get into a lot of doors,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: and I realized it was up to me to maintain
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: those relationships and to keep myself in those rooms because
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I already knew what came with this and the expectations
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: people had. And I've also been stereotyped. A lot of
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: people felt like I was before they got to know me.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Of course, people would assume that I'm lazy or I
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: just expect things to be handed to me, but I
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: really do. I've always been someone who worked at their craft,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: and so you know now that I'm in this position
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: where I'm working on multiple that has never changed again.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Like there was a time where I I didn't give
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: a shit about anything or anybody. But now that you know,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I'm older, I'm a mom. Now, I just I appreciate
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: just being able to to work on my craft. I'm
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I appreciate the a the ability to just tap into
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: my purpose and my passions, and it's something that I
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: don't ever take for granted, and so that's something that
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: my dad helped me to navigate once I was able
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: to snap out of this little funk that I was in.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: But I always make it very clear, like I'm going
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: to work hard at every stop that I've made. I've
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: worked in New York, I've worked in Atlanta, I've worked
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: in LA for six years. Everybody that I've worked with
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: will will tell you Mariah worked extremely hard at her craft,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: extremely hard, and so you know that has just been
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: who I was before I I went through what I
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: went through, but going through the surgeries and the cold
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: passing way just really amplified it. Like I wanna just
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: really just make sure that I'm not taking any of
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: this for granted, because at any given moment, it can
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: change for me. Right situations change, and so I wanna
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: live my life not regretting, you know, opportunities that I
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: just didn't really work hard at, or just projects that
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I kind of half asked, because I I understand that
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: one phone call can change all of this shit, and
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: so I never want to look back and say, dang,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I didn't take my health seriously. I didn't take my
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: craft seriously. I don't ever want to look back and
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: say that about myself, and so I'm happy. I I
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I always say that I have lived a beautiful life.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: My parents have done a beautiful job raising my sister
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: and I especially my mother. My dad has as well.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I've learned a lot from my dad. I've lived a
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: beautiful life. I've experienced beautiful moments, but I've had quite
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: a few unfortunate circumstances that I've had to deal with,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: and it really did shape me into the person that
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I am today. I think my wisdom and just how
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I viewed people and how I viewed life would not
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: have been the same if I didn't go through the
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: health scares, my best friend dying, and we know I've
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: going to tap into relationships. We don't have enough time.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: We don't have enough time to go through just the
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: heart rate and all the you know. But yeah, its a.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Saying I read last week. It's experience, isn't going through things.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Experience is how you react.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: To the things that they go through.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, you have to learn that.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: That's exactly kind of what you've said.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's not going through the action, yeah, or the
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: unfortunate thing. It's well, you have gained and how you've
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: responded to that unfortunate thing happening.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: The first thing I tell myself when I'm going through
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: something or if I'm met with a roadblock, I always
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: sit back and I say, God is trying to teach
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: me something. I need to sit back and realize what
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: it is. Always, even today, yesterday, I swear every time
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: there is some sort of resistance somewhere, there is something
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: for me to learn, not even about anybody necessarily, but
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: more so about myself. What do I need to learn
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: about myself in this moment? So I allow myself to evolve.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I love evolution. I love just I love becoming because
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: it's something that never ends. I'm always in this active
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: state of becoming a better version of myself. And yeah,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I just I'm excited just to continue my journey and
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: see where it leads me and the people that I'm me.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Evan you know, he was someone that I met along
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: my journey and it was a beautiful connection that we made.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: And so those of the things that matter to me
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: more than anything, and so it just it just reiterates,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: reiterates that I am you know, I'm trending in the
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: right direction, and just as type Floyd would say, keep
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: a really good heart posture even in those moments when
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: sometimes life just isn't fair, you know. And so I
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: know there's someone watching who has gone through even more
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: unfortunate circumstances. So I try not to feel sorry for myself,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: but I do acknowledge that I've had some tough, tough
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: circumstances to overcome and I and I did so.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, Uncle would always
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: used to say, life is good.
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  Speaker 2: Life is good. You're still breathing and you have an
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  Speaker 2: other day. Life is good.
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  Speaker 4: We really want to dive into this morning.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know, we know, we don't We're we
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  Speaker 1: can a part me it's your show.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully later on in the season we can sit down
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  Speaker 3: for another cont continue to dive into kind of the
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  Speaker 3: voices behind the show. Yes, that is such an awesome
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  Speaker 3: thing that we get to do and learn about each
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  Speaker 3: other and continue to share that with what our Born
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  Speaker 3: to the Game.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you guys. You guys had a great job hosting.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you let me do okay, So thank you for
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  Speaker 1: joining Born to the Game. Please don't forget to like, share, subscribe,
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  Speaker 1: tell your cousin and your mom and m about the
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  Speaker 1: show all Your and in season two was coming, and
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  Speaker 1: season two is here. Wherever, whatever it is, we love you, God,
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  Speaker 1: bless peace,