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Ep. 118 - Reaching Into the Darkness: The Truest Expression of Love & Watching Others Grow · Trudge Report

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SPEAKER_03: Hi, everybody.
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SPEAKER_03: I beat you to it.
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SPEAKER_01: You got me, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, all you little Trudgomaniacs out there.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome to another episode of the Trudge Report.
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SPEAKER_01: We are a recovery-based podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: My name is Greg, and I'm your host.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm joined by my good friend, my fellow Trudger Corey.
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0:53
SPEAKER_01: We're down to two.
0:55
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, um, we are the the best that this podcast has to offer.
1:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, so you know, um it's gonna still be a banger show as usual.
1:05
SPEAKER_03: Um I got a question.
1:06
SPEAKER_03: I got a question.
1:07
SPEAKER_01: Fire it in, fire it in.
1:08
SPEAKER_03: Not to not to interrupt you, but I'm gonna interrupt.
1:10
SPEAKER_03: Uh dude, you just said, you know, Sean reads that every week, wherever you get your podcast, and it just dawned on me that who the hell is listening to podcasts anywhere other than Apple Podcasts and Spotify?
1:23
SPEAKER_03: Is that happening still?
1:24
SPEAKER_03: There's a lot.
1:25
SPEAKER_03: I know Sean's one of them, but like that kind of checks out.
1:30
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
1:31
SPEAKER_01: iHeart's big.
1:37
SPEAKER_03: I listened to iHeart for internet radio, like like my favorite radio station back in Philly, 104.5, before they sold out and went mainstream.
1:48
SPEAKER_03: Um, listened to them a lot back then, back in the day.
1:52
SPEAKER_03: So that's all.
1:52
SPEAKER_03: I never listened to a podcast anywhere else.
1:55
SPEAKER_01: Well, here's the deal uh to all our lovely listeners out there.
1:58
SPEAKER_01: We we need you to listen on any uh any and all uh formats that you can.
2:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh we would I disagree.
2:06
SPEAKER_03: Stop being a loser and just get with the program.
2:09
SPEAKER_03: There's two acceptable platforms.
2:10
SPEAKER_01: I don't I'm telling you, I rock Spotify.
2:13
SPEAKER_01: I rock Spotify even though I have an Apple device.
2:16
SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, that's it.
2:20
SPEAKER_01: Other than uh listening formats, how are you doing in the uh in the fine world today, Corey?
2:27
SPEAKER_03: Uh dude, I'm beat.
2:28
SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm good though.
2:29
SPEAKER_03: I'm beat.
2:30
SPEAKER_03: Um I did it so Mother's Day, right?
2:32
SPEAKER_03: Again, happy Mother's Day Mother's Day to all the mothers.
2:36
SPEAKER_03: Um so I started out the weekend by continuing to fix up my mother's place, which was frickin' cleaning out gutters and and power washing them out.
2:51
SPEAKER_01: You've been working on this this house for like four weeks straight, dude.
2:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:56
SPEAKER_03: There was she had to agree to a list of stuff that had to be done via per the HOA, you know what I mean?
3:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
3:04
SPEAKER_03: Um and I guess I just just get signed up for that, Greg.
3:08
SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't know.
3:09
SPEAKER_03: It's like an automatic thing.
3:10
SPEAKER_03: So so that's what I did on Saturday, and I went up and down a damn ladder a hundred feffen times, and man, I should have continued with the stair stepper at the gym, I'll tell you that much.
3:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
3:22
SPEAKER_03: It was rough.
3:23
SPEAKER_03: And it's very hot in Florida, very hot, very, very hot on top of a roof.
3:30
SPEAKER_03: So that was there was that.
3:31
SPEAKER_03: But then, so if as if that wasn't enough, um for Mother's Day, Gabby wanted to build her garden.
3:39
SPEAKER_03: Like she's had she's had her garden in a bunch of planters and pots and stuff, but we wanted to do an actual garden bed.
3:48
SPEAKER_03: So we did that.
3:50
SPEAKER_03: That was an adventure all in itself.
3:52
SPEAKER_03: Spent most of the day buying the shit, and then the rest of the day putting the shit together and all that.
3:59
SPEAKER_03: So but it turned out good, and I'm glad we have it now, and she's happy.
4:02
SPEAKER_01: I mean, going to any kind of floral slash gardening place on Mother's Day to get supplies or flowers or anything of the sort is um I mean, you're really running the gauntlet there.
4:16
SPEAKER_01: You're you're rolling the dice.
4:18
SPEAKER_03: Well, I started out I started out that day at Publix at eight in the morning with the rest of the uh dads and husbands in Port St.
4:27
SPEAKER_03: Lucie, Florida, buying flowers.
4:29
SPEAKER_03: So glad to see I wasn't the only one that waited on that.
4:33
SPEAKER_01: Actually, you know what, while we're on that subject, I gotta say this.
4:36
SPEAKER_01: Um the Ohio equivalent to Publix um is uh a lovely little place called Heinans, uh, that just runs top top notch.
4:47
SPEAKER_01: Um they're like maybe a step down from Whole Foods, but they're they're pretty good.
4:51
SPEAKER_01: But I'll say this every single time I get flowers from Heinans, they last longer and look nicer and cost about a third of the amount that I would pay from an actual florist.
5:06
SPEAKER_03: Can I can yeah, let's bitch about this for a moment because you're on to something here.
5:12
SPEAKER_03: Like I just mentioned, I go to Publix to buy flowers, all right?
5:17
SPEAKER_03: And I know that there's dudes out there one upping me by having fucking 120, 150 bouquets delivered to the house.
5:25
SPEAKER_03: Why?
5:26
SPEAKER_03: They're grown from the same shitty dirt, aren't they?
5:29
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
5:30
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
5:31
SPEAKER_03: Like, I never ever like not never, but I mean it's I don't know.
5:37
SPEAKER_03: It's that's a rare occasion that I'm gonna have flowers sent, especially to my wife who I live with.
5:43
SPEAKER_03: So it's like I'd rather her wake up to a bouquet of flowers than I just went and grab.
5:47
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, am I a dick?
5:48
SPEAKER_01: Am I an asshole?
5:49
SPEAKER_01: No, no.
5:50
SPEAKER_01: I mean, uh, I asked Lauren, I'm like, hey, do you care that I'm getting you like grocery store flowers?
5:54
SPEAKER_01: She's like, no, I love them.
5:56
SPEAKER_01: They're pretty.
5:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you know what at the grocery store prices, I can do flowers more often than uh than I would be able to do.
6:06
SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, because you know, a florist, I mean, obviously for the the holidays, they they bump the prices up, but still, I mean, like it's like you said, you know, a dozen or two dozen red roses from a florist are gonna cost you a minimum of a hundred bucks.
6:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
6:23
SPEAKER_01: You can go get it.
6:24
SPEAKER_01: Like, like I think I I paid uh like I don't know, like 19 bucks for a dozen a dozen rose.
6:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, perfect.
6:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I there's there's nothing wrong with it.
6:35
SPEAKER_01: And like I said, they last longer and they look nicer.
6:38
SPEAKER_03: So uh most of the time Gabby wants a plant anyway.
6:42
SPEAKER_03: I've I've gone to like I try to every so often either get her flowers or a plant, depending on what I've done recently.
6:50
SPEAKER_03: And so yeah, so sometimes I'll just get my ass to the garden section and I'll literally grab like a five dollar plant just to bring home to her to be like, hey, I was thinking about you while I was out.
7:01
SPEAKER_03: And she fucking loves that.
7:03
SPEAKER_03: Like she loves a little stupid plant.
7:05
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's you know, that's her thing.
7:08
SPEAKER_03: So anyway, Mother's Day was a success.
7:11
SPEAKER_03: You guys were away, weren't you?
7:13
SPEAKER_01: We were, we were, man.
7:14
SPEAKER_01: It was uh it was a is a busy week here, um, here and there, I should say.
7:20
SPEAKER_01: But yes, we were um Lauren and I took a a little weekend trip, weekend, uh four-day weekend, went to uh Dallas, Texas.
7:30
SPEAKER_03: Sick invite by the way.
7:31
SPEAKER_01: Visit her friends.
7:33
SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah.
7:34
SPEAKER_01: Uh visit her her friend.
7:36
SPEAKER_01: Um and we stayed with them.
7:39
SPEAKER_01: And um yeah, we we did some cool stuff, man.
7:44
SPEAKER_01: We we went and uh you know, saw like uh a running of the Texas Longhorns, like the actual cattle.
7:53
SPEAKER_01: Oh um you know, went to uh went to some place where it was like you know, just cowboys galore, cowboys and cowgirls everywhere.
8:04
SPEAKER_01: And I don't I still don't understand how they wear all that leather in 90 degree sun, but somehow they pull it off and yeah, we just chilled and relaxed.
8:12
SPEAKER_01: We did uh you know partake in going to see Dave Matthews band while we were down there, of course.
8:18
SPEAKER_01: Um, and that was uh that was awesome.
8:20
SPEAKER_01: Scratched another venue off the list.
8:23
SPEAKER_01: Um saw some some great great tunes, and uh yeah, it was it was a fantastic weekend.
8:30
SPEAKER_01: I will say this.
8:32
SPEAKER_01: Um on about three hours of sleep apiece, we flew back uh yesterday morning, which uh certainly wasn't my worst holiday at an airport.
8:44
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, I think uh you and I shared a labor day at an airport, which was uh pretty crazy once, and then I I had a oh my god, a rough Christmas uh in in an airport as well.
8:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, however, I will say that this flight was probably the most turbulent flight I have been on in quite some time.
9:05
SPEAKER_01: And that sucker was I I was at the point where I'm like, you know what?
9:08
SPEAKER_01: If we if we go down in an airplane, if this is if this is my time, this is my time, we're just gonna send it.
9:15
SPEAKER_03: That scares the shit out of me, dude.
9:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, dude.
9:18
SPEAKER_01: It was it was one of those that the captain did not turn off the uh fastened seatbelt sign the entire flight.
9:25
SPEAKER_01: That was uh that sucker was on, and then a couple times old boy came over the the intercom and he was like, flight attendants return to your seats immediately.
9:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, Oh, here we go.
9:37
SPEAKER_01: Damn it, dude.
9:38
SPEAKER_01: It's happening.
9:41
SPEAKER_03: So uh I would I do I might just pass out.
9:44
SPEAKER_03: I might just pass out if I heard that.
9:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was it was a bouncy ride, so uh no sleep was had on that.
9:51
SPEAKER_01: Dude, yeah, yesterday I was just exhausted, and then yeah, so there was running around to do yesterday.
9:56
SPEAKER_01: It was Mother's Day.
9:58
SPEAKER_01: Um so I had to take Peyton to the store, pick out some stuff for his mom, pick out some stuff for uh his grandmom and whatnot, and and uh yeah, so I knew I knew all about the the last minute flowers, and we went to a garden place too, so get you know some hanging baskets, but certainly happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there.
10:18
SPEAKER_01: Um my mom out in Arizona, my sister out in Nevada for sure.
10:22
SPEAKER_01: Um shoutouts to them.
10:25
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, that was that was the weekend.
10:27
SPEAKER_01: Um so I came home today and or yesterday, but I I started today on uh home improvement stuff as well.
10:35
SPEAKER_01: And uh so we've been painting and whatnot here, but I gotta I gotta share a little shout out.
10:40
SPEAKER_01: Our boy Dan is not here today, but thank God we know people like that because every time I have a home improvement problem, Dan is who I turn to.
10:49
SPEAKER_01: And um I had uh we we had our our an electrical outlet that literally looked like it caught fire, like it was like the it was like melted, partially melted, and I'm like, oh god.
11:03
SPEAKER_01: And so I'm I'm I'm just you know talking to Dan about it last week, and I'm like, yeah, man, I think I'm gonna have to call like an electrician.
11:09
SPEAKER_01: And he goes, No, dude, just do it yourself.
11:11
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I don't know about messing with electricity, brother.
11:15
SPEAKER_01: Like, I I'm not you know, I'm not too keen on that.
11:18
SPEAKER_01: I can paint a wall, you know what I'm saying?
11:20
SPEAKER_01: I can I can fix some drywall, you know, but I've never he's like, no, dude, it's super easy, whatever.
11:26
SPEAKER_01: So today I have changed out an electrical outlet in my home, and I feel pretty much like a god amongst men, you know.
11:34
SPEAKER_01: Um I'm sure I'm gonna get a lot of a lot of hate from from that statement and uh you know get told that you know I shouldn't have gone my 40 plus years without um you know no without changing out an outlet, but I'm gonna try and go much longer.
11:53
SPEAKER_03: I really am.
11:54
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna try and go my entire life.
11:56
SPEAKER_01: I will tell you this never in my life until today have I wished that I had smaller hands.
12:03
SPEAKER_01: But I don't know.
12:04
SPEAKER_03: Oh dude, they there's a lot of things they come to hands with, I'm gonna be honest.
12:09
SPEAKER_01: I I needed I needed your help, Corey.
12:11
SPEAKER_01: I needed your help.
12:12
SPEAKER_01: I needed some because my fat fingers trying to like tw- I must have busted this wire four or five times, you know.
12:19
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, we got it done.
12:22
SPEAKER_01: Uh the house is still currently standing and not on fire.
12:27
SPEAKER_01: So uh we're doing pretty good.
12:29
SPEAKER_03: I changed one of Gabby's headlights once in her old car.
12:33
SPEAKER_03: Actually I did it twice.
12:35
SPEAKER_03: And the way you had to go, you had to go in up through like the steering well or the wheel well, I mean.
12:42
SPEAKER_03: And uh it was weird as shit.
12:44
SPEAKER_03: But I'll tell you what, if I had even slightly bigger hands, it wasn't gonna happen.
12:48
SPEAKER_03: It wasn't gonna happen.
12:49
SPEAKER_03: I was gonna have to rip the whole thing out.
12:51
SPEAKER_03: But nope.
12:52
SPEAKER_03: I got up in there.
12:54
SPEAKER_03: Got up in there, and I didn't even have to use any like oil or butter or anything.
12:58
SPEAKER_03: Hell yeah.
12:58
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
13:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, that's cool.
13:01
SPEAKER_03: Hey, I got a question.
13:02
SPEAKER_03: Unless you're about to say something.
13:04
SPEAKER_01: Nope.
13:04
SPEAKER_03: Um, first off, he Dave Matthews is playing minarets right now.
13:09
SPEAKER_03: Um but you heard this is this is for any Dave Matthews fans.
13:16
SPEAKER_03: You heard a couple songs of of Note.
13:19
unknown: Yes.
13:19
SPEAKER_03: One was Kit Kat Jam, right?
13:22
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
13:22
SPEAKER_03: The song Kit Kat Jam, which Dave hasn't played in how many shows?
13:26
SPEAKER_01: Like uh like uh several thousand.
13:30
SPEAKER_03: I believe.
13:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh, didn't I send you a graphic?
13:35
SPEAKER_03: Five hundred and ninety-one shows.
13:36
SPEAKER_03: Five hundred oh, and and how many thousands of days?
13:39
SPEAKER_03: That's what it was.
13:40
SPEAKER_03: Thousands of days, yeah.
13:41
SPEAKER_03: Lots of thousands of days.
13:43
SPEAKER_03: It doesn't it doesn't tell me that.
13:44
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, five hundred and ninety-one shows.
13:47
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
13:47
SPEAKER_03: That's insane.
13:49
SPEAKER_01: It is it is insane.
13:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
13:51
SPEAKER_01: So that that was a goodie.
13:53
SPEAKER_01: Um there was I Did It, which has only been played like three times in the last what 15 years or something like that.
14:01
SPEAKER_03: I swore that he hated that song.
14:03
SPEAKER_03: I thought that that was a thing, that he hated the album or whatever.
14:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, obvious, obviously they're playing it for a while.
14:10
SPEAKER_01: No, he and he and he jammed it out too.
14:11
SPEAKER_01: He was having a good time while he was doing it.
14:13
SPEAKER_01: It was it was cool.
14:15
SPEAKER_03: And then just for my own personal knowledge, how Dream Girls sound because that one, yeah, that one's been a while too, and I've never heard that one.
14:25
SPEAKER_03: Let's see.
14:26
SPEAKER_03: 76 76 shows since he played that one.
14:29
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
14:30
SPEAKER_01: So that was uh that was uh Dave Show 77 for me, and it was it was pretty awesome.
14:36
SPEAKER_03: Wow, I thought you were it was pretty awesome.
14:39
SPEAKER_03: 77, damn.
14:41
SPEAKER_03: Um, and then lastly, the stone encore.
14:45
SPEAKER_03: It was sick.
14:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
14:47
SPEAKER_01: It was sick.
14:48
SPEAKER_01: Um you will see here in a couple weeks when you go, um, the the the visual displays that they they have are totally different this year and very awesome.
15:00
SPEAKER_01: Uh and yeah, I won't spoil it too much, but yeah, the you know, the screens, you know, obviously if you can get to a point in the venue where you can see the band and see them clearly awesome.
15:10
SPEAKER_01: But like for everyone else that's uh you know just kind of stuck way back on the lawn and you can kind of see it and kind of can't, whatever.
15:17
SPEAKER_01: This the the show that they put on for the screens was awesome.
15:22
SPEAKER_01: So I am excited.
15:24
SPEAKER_03: I am excited, dude.
15:25
SPEAKER_03: I I took so so Dave obviously didn't tour Florida last year, and so that means it's been almost two whole years without a Dave show for me.
15:36
SPEAKER_03: And if you know me, that's pretty unusual.
15:39
SPEAKER_03: But also, like I kind of just took a break from listening to him too, like every now and again, something like you know, but like I just took a break, and I just got like I listened to other things, and I went through different phases of music and stuff, and whatever.
15:54
SPEAKER_03: Like, I I'd say like uh maybe biannually I go through a Pink Floyd thing where I are I just like raw dog the wall album and just and it's fucking awesome.
16:04
SPEAKER_03: But um, but yeah, so I started listening more Dave as of this week, and I'm gearing up.
16:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, me too.
16:15
SPEAKER_01: I I I kind of did the same thing, and I've been you know kind of exploring some new music and stuff like that.
16:19
SPEAKER_01: I've actually been listening to a little bit of uh of Post Malone because that'll be our next show.
16:25
SPEAKER_01: Um, we're going to see uh Post Malone, our good our good friend Mark and his wife are coming in and and uh the four of us are going uh when he's in Cleveland next month.
16:36
SPEAKER_01: So kind of pumped for that.
16:38
SPEAKER_01: Never seen him before, you know, looking forward to that show for sure.
16:42
SPEAKER_01: And uh yeah man, summer summer music is upon us, so we'll see what we'll see what we get.
16:48
SPEAKER_03: We got um I've been listening to a fuck ton of Noah Con.
16:53
SPEAKER_03: He released his new album.
16:56
SPEAKER_03: We got the tickets.
16:57
SPEAKER_03: Oh, expensive, dude.
17:00
SPEAKER_03: Expensive, but I'll tell you what, a fraction of the cost of Taylor Swift tickets.
17:05
SPEAKER_01: So oh yeah, yeah, obviously.
17:07
SPEAKER_03: There's that.
17:08
SPEAKER_03: So I can always rest I can always hang my head on that.
17:11
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, no, I mean, yeah, yeah, expensive, but honestly, not too far out of the realm of just the regular concert these days.
17:18
SPEAKER_03: We we're just spoiled because like just look for lawn seats for Dave all the time.
17:23
SPEAKER_03: Because like that's like that's like where the party's at.
17:25
SPEAKER_03: That's where you want to be for Dave, you know.
17:28
SPEAKER_03: Um but yeah, got got to know a con tickets and been listening to his new album, and that's just it's just great.
17:34
SPEAKER_03: I just love it.
17:35
SPEAKER_03: But other than that, dude, like I don't know.
17:37
SPEAKER_03: There's I mean, there's some people, God, who else?
17:40
SPEAKER_03: I kind of want to see Evan Essence.
17:43
SPEAKER_01: They are they're coming this summer uh here, and I think we might.
17:49
SPEAKER_01: We might, especially, you know, lawn seats blossom, you know, whatever.
17:53
SPEAKER_01: Something we can take Peyton to probably.
17:56
SPEAKER_01: We will not be taking Peyton to uh Marilyn Manson and Rob Zombie, though.
18:01
SPEAKER_03: I don't see why not.
18:02
SPEAKER_03: I mean, is he still pee on the crowd or is that slipknot?
18:07
SPEAKER_03: We'll find out.
18:08
SPEAKER_01: We'll find out.
18:10
SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, dude, con I don't know.
18:13
SPEAKER_03: I love concert season.
18:14
SPEAKER_03: I will say that I was just bitching to a friend about um I think financial amphitheater.
18:20
SPEAKER_03: Dude, you've been to a lot of amphitheaters.
18:23
SPEAKER_03: You've been to a lot.
18:24
SPEAKER_03: I wonder what your take is.
18:26
SPEAKER_03: Where does I think, or what it should be known as, Coral Sky, where does that rank among amphitheaters in your list?
18:35
SPEAKER_01: Oh, dude, I mean I've got I've got so many to count.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: I think um the only reason that it would rank even in the top ten for me would be solely because of the fun times I've had there, and that's been more about the people I've been with than the place I've been at.
18:55
SPEAKER_03: Alright, that was a that was a hot take on my end, dude.
18:58
SPEAKER_03: It was a hot take.
18:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong.
19:01
SPEAKER_01: Uh no, all right.
19:02
SPEAKER_01: You know, I would say it's not in my top five, but it it is in my top ten for sure.
19:08
SPEAKER_01: Um because I will say this on the right night where it's not too crazy hot and it's not necessarily like thunderstorming, it it there is an absolutely beautiful view.
19:20
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, yeah.
19:22
SPEAKER_01: But the the fact it is it is so poorly situated uh that getting in and out of it can be an absolute nightmare.
19:30
SPEAKER_03: And that's so that's the thing about it.
19:33
SPEAKER_03: Getting into the damn place sucks because it's just that road, it's one road.
19:38
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
19:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
19:39
SPEAKER_01: Um way in, one way out, you know what I'm saying?
19:45
SPEAKER_03: But I will say that when they park you on that grass lot out by Belvedere, it is awesome when you're over there because when you it's a little bit of a walk, but when you get out, yeah, you're right on the highway, you're gone.
19:59
SPEAKER_01: Now and and you know what I might burst the bubble just by talking about this.
20:03
SPEAKER_01: Has anyone ever tried?
20:04
SPEAKER_01: And you know what, listeners out there, let us know if you have or not.
20:09
SPEAKER_01: Tried just parking at Texas Roadhouse and walking.
20:12
SPEAKER_03: I know.
20:13
SPEAKER_03: I'm so I'm scared.
20:14
SPEAKER_03: I'm scared.
20:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, or are you gonna get are you gonna get towed?
20:17
SPEAKER_01: You're gonna come out and not have a car.
20:18
SPEAKER_03: That's I wonder I wonder if Janine's ever pulled that move.
20:21
SPEAKER_03: I don't know if she if she's listening.
20:24
SPEAKER_03: Uh maybe if she is, put it in the chat.
20:26
SPEAKER_03: But um, yeah, I agree.
20:29
SPEAKER_03: I it's right there.
20:30
SPEAKER_03: Like theoretically, you can pull it off.
20:32
SPEAKER_03: Who how do they know that you're not in Dicks or Texas Roadhouse or any of the plaza there?
20:39
SPEAKER_03: But and now they're charging for$25.
20:41
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
20:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like it did used to be free.
20:44
SPEAKER_03: How did you go from zero to twenty-five and you skipped over five, ten, fifteen, you know?
20:48
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
20:48
SPEAKER_03: Yep, anything to make a buck.
20:50
SPEAKER_03: Live nation sucks.
20:52
SPEAKER_04: Mm-hmm.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: But in any event, yeah.
20:56
SPEAKER_01: So I mean, um, but yeah, I would definitely say like yeah, any any place where I can park for free, definitely.
21:05
SPEAKER_01: The the amphitheater we went to in in Dallas um was was definitely you you had to pay.
21:13
SPEAKER_01: You're you're paying somebody.
21:14
SPEAKER_01: We parked in a Walgreens parking lot and paid for paid 20 bucks and just walked, you know.
21:20
SPEAKER_03: Hell yeah.
21:21
SPEAKER_03: So I so I and I'm only asking because some because somebody just was asking me about this the other day.
21:28
SPEAKER_03: I think financial amphitheater was basically my top amphitheater aside from the gorge.
21:36
SPEAKER_03: I feel like you gotta take the gorge out of the question because that's gonna be the holy grail no matter what I think.
21:41
SPEAKER_03: Um so it would be gorge, and then I think I think.
21:47
SPEAKER_03: But it's also home.
21:48
SPEAKER_03: You think you think, yep.
21:49
SPEAKER_03: Because Blossom was fucking beautiful too.
21:51
SPEAKER_01: I love Blossom.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: Blo Blossom is you know, if we take the gorge out of the equation, Blossom's my favorite, but I'm I'm partial to it.
21:58
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
21:59
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm from here.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
22:01
SPEAKER_01: I love any venue where you you know you feel like you're out in the middle of the woods.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: The uh Saratoga Springs in New York same thing.
22:08
SPEAKER_01: You know.
22:09
SPEAKER_01: Uh absolutely.
22:10
SPEAKER_01: Nothing like listening to music in the woods, dude.
22:12
SPEAKER_03: Right.
22:13
SPEAKER_03: And you're not sure if you're gonna make it out or not.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: It is questionable.
22:17
SPEAKER_03: Even at the Steve Matthews show.
22:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:21
SPEAKER_03: I mean, some you meet some of the most questionable people there.
22:24
SPEAKER_03: Sometimes at those shows.
22:28
SPEAKER_03: I I left all the Facebook groups, dude.
22:30
SPEAKER_03: They're just they're just unrolly.
22:32
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, we were we were sitting next to a group of uh miserable, miserable people, but uh yeah, whatever.
22:41
SPEAKER_01: Like thanks for coming to a concert.
22:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
22:44
SPEAKER_01: And one of which just really smelled of BO.
22:47
SPEAKER_01: So um, but there you have it.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: Um gosh.
22:52
SPEAKER_01: It was it was a good time nonetheless.
22:53
SPEAKER_01: Definitely got me pumped and excited and ready for summer concert season.
22:59
SPEAKER_01: Or what little of it we we will have.
23:01
SPEAKER_01: So um moving forward, I think that um you have a little reading from our good friend Chris McKinnell's got a brand new book.
23:12
SPEAKER_01: I'll let you plug it.
23:14
SPEAKER_01: Um if if you guys remember uh Chris, he was on our show what uh a little over a year ago.
23:23
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, it was it was in like August, I think.
23:28
SPEAKER_01: Oh, so less than a year ago.
23:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:30
SPEAKER_01: It was last year.
23:30
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
23:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so Chris McKinnell, uh obviously grandson of Ed Lorraine Warren, he was a phenomenal guest on our show.
23:39
SPEAKER_01: He has a brand new book out, and Corey went and snagged a copy of that sucker.
23:46
SPEAKER_03: Dude, like right away, too.
23:48
SPEAKER_03: I was so stoked.
23:49
SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't know.
23:51
SPEAKER_03: I just I thought he was phenomenal on on our episode.
23:56
SPEAKER_01: Actually, while we're jumping into spooky shit here, yeah, or right before we jump into spooky shit, I'll say this, man.
24:04
SPEAKER_01: Uh while we were in Texas, actually the first night we got there, because you know, we got in kind of late in the afternoon, there wasn't a ton to do or whatever, we all went and saw Hokum, which is like everybody was hyping up as like, Oh, this is gonna be the best horror movie of the year, da da da Hokum?
24:27
SPEAKER_01: Hokum, yeah.
24:29
SPEAKER_03: How do I miss these things, dude?
24:30
SPEAKER_03: I feel like I live under a rock when it comes to movies.
24:32
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, but all I know is that like I'm gonna stop trusting critics as much as I trust critics because it it was it was okay.
24:42
SPEAKER_01: It was it was okay.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: Um not Adam Scott is like the lead role, you know who Adam Scott the actor is.
24:52
SPEAKER_01: He was good for his part, you know.
24:55
SPEAKER_01: He's the uh he's he's uh John C.
24:58
SPEAKER_01: Riley's brother and stepbrothers.
25:00
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
25:01
SPEAKER_01: The annoying one.
25:02
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: He was he was good enough in his role, but it's it certainly was not uh anything that like uh to write home about if you are a horror movie connoisseur.
25:13
SPEAKER_03: So not not to go off on too much of a tangent before I get into this, but with with movies, dude.
25:22
SPEAKER_03: How do you trust the box office numbers ever?
25:24
SPEAKER_03: Like how do you do you know what I mean by that?
25:27
SPEAKER_03: Like like on paper, Scream 7 was like the biggest success of the franchise.
25:32
SPEAKER_03: Like it was the best ever.
25:34
SPEAKER_03: And like all this yeah, and it's and yeah, when you go and see it, it's not a great movie.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, you again, like, you can't really trust the box office.
25:44
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you can for certain stuff, you know what I'm saying?
25:47
SPEAKER_01: Like Christopher Nolan movies, you can trust the box office for that, you know what I'm saying?
25:52
SPEAKER_01: You can um you can trust it for you know uh some of the Marvel movies that come out, especially like The Avengers and stuff like that.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: You know, you know that going to one of those movies, even if you don't necessarily care for it, care for it, like you're gonna be entertained, you know.
26:09
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, you you really can't because anybody can put out a stinker, you know, and and hype it up, and that's the way I felt about that movie Hokum, is I saw a couple trailers for it, but I purposely like didn't go into it.
26:23
SPEAKER_01: It's a ghost story set in an Irish uh hotel, right?
26:30
SPEAKER_01: And so I was like, that's all the trailers really gave you on it, but they gave you like a bunch of jump scares, and spoiler alert, those are the only jump scares, and the ones that you hate that, you know.
26:42
SPEAKER_01: So it's like again, a whole bunch of people probably bought tickets, went and saw it.
26:47
SPEAKER_01: People are are saying it's you know, nine out of ten, ten out of ten, amazing, da da da.
26:51
SPEAKER_01: It was okay.
26:53
SPEAKER_03: The last conjuring did the same damn thing.
26:55
SPEAKER_03: The scary parts were all in the trailer.
26:58
SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, what the hell?
26:59
SPEAKER_03: Speaking of the conjuring, and furthermore into this, what what we're getting into, um, rest in peace to uh Roger um Roger Perone, who was the father depicted in the original Conjuring.
27:12
SPEAKER_03: He just passed away.
27:13
SPEAKER_03: Um to no, he passed away last Thursday.
27:18
SPEAKER_03: Come on, Raj.
27:19
SPEAKER_03: I know.
27:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know.
27:22
SPEAKER_03: I saw it on Facebook and I said, damn.
27:24
SPEAKER_03: But anyway, yeah, so uh so I did.
27:27
SPEAKER_03: I grabbed Chris McKinnell's book literally the day it came out.
27:31
SPEAKER_03: Um that is titled That is titled The Warren The Warren Legacy, What the Paranormal Reveals About Consciousness and Reality.
27:42
SPEAKER_03: Get that sucker at bookstores now.
27:46
SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm I'm working on getting a signed copy, just saying.
27:49
SPEAKER_01: There you go.
27:49
SPEAKER_03: But anyway, I'm not uh I'm not through it yet.
27:52
SPEAKER_03: For anybody that knows me knows I don't I don't I read I read fine pretty much.
27:56
SPEAKER_03: I just can't continue reading fine for long periods of time, so I put it down for a few days and I pick it back up, whatever.
28:03
SPEAKER_03: So I'm getting through it and it's great.
28:05
SPEAKER_03: Like when I'm reading it, it really captivates me.
28:08
SPEAKER_03: Um but anyway, he goes into a lot of stuff, like it's not just a a book of ghost stories or anything.
28:13
SPEAKER_03: In fact, so far it's not a ghost story book at all.
28:17
SPEAKER_03: Um but it has a lot to do with spirituality.
28:20
SPEAKER_03: Um some of the stuff that we had him talk about when he was on the pod that I thought was honestly the most fascinating, and if we do ever have him back on for lucky enough, man, I'd love to dive more into that stuff, right?
28:32
SPEAKER_03: Um I think it pertains to us that are in recovery, very much so.
28:38
SPEAKER_03: So it's just this this little excerpt um kind of spoke to me.
28:43
SPEAKER_03: I was on the beach with with the family and I was reading this and he says in one of his chapters, I'll tell you what, hold on, the chapter chapter is titled The Truth Underneath.
28:55
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
28:56
SPEAKER_03: But anyway, this little passage he says, My faith is this that love is not a sentiment, it is the fundamental nature of what everything is when the illusion of separation falls away.
29:09
SPEAKER_03: And the clearest expression of that love, the most direct path toward whatever God actually is, is not prayer or doctrine or ritual.
29:18
SPEAKER_03: It is the moment when I reach into someone's darkness and help them find their way back to themselves.
29:25
SPEAKER_03: I thought that was like that that gives me chills, you know?
29:28
SPEAKER_03: And I just thought it was so like we talk about helping people all the time on this podcast.
29:35
SPEAKER_03: We talk about helping people all the time in our daily lives.
29:39
SPEAKER_03: Um I I don't know if there's a way to that might be the closest way you can put it in the words, honestly, what I just read.
29:48
SPEAKER_03: Um otherwise I'd I'd find a hard time expressing how actually going out of your way and helping somebody to get freed from like in our case, freed from addiction brings us closer to whatever God is, you know what I mean?
30:10
SPEAKER_03: Um whatever that uh spirit of the universe is, right?
30:15
SPEAKER_03: And like yes, I I would say that you know, we I we often talk about our prayer life, our meditation life, um, you know, that kind of routine and stuff like that, but I I think they're all pieces to the puzzle, right?
30:32
SPEAKER_03: I think you gotta have all of them to complete the the image.
30:36
SPEAKER_03: And um you know, I just I just know that I am uh quite unlovely when I'm not focusing on what I can do for somebody else, um, especially when it pertains to helping a sick and suffering alcoholic or drug addict.
30:53
SPEAKER_03: Like it's quite literally what he wrote there, reaching into somebody's darkness and helping them find their way back to themselves.
31:01
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I thought that was just a great way to put it.
31:03
SPEAKER_03: And you know, when I think about it I was talking with somebody recently that's that's not one of us, um but has had loved ones that passed away and still quite acquainted with addiction.
31:17
SPEAKER_03: And like I I don't know, man.
31:22
SPEAKER_03: When when you get to have the privilege of of helping somebody um get sober and granted we don't take much credit for it, right?
31:32
SPEAKER_03: But we but we are hopefully the vessel which which helps put their hand in God's hand.
31:38
SPEAKER_03: But when you're when we're when you're a small piece of that and then they go on to help somebody else, and furthermore, they go on to get married, have kids, buy a house, whatever, and have like all of those things as a result of doing what they needed to do to get sober, and you're like a small piece of it, it's it's something that like nobody can take away from you, you know what I mean?
32:04
SPEAKER_03: And no matter if that person stays sober forever, or even if you stay sober forever or not, like for that moment in time, it's it's something really, really special, you know.
32:16
SPEAKER_03: So I don't know.
32:17
SPEAKER_03: Did did did did you like it, Greg?
32:19
SPEAKER_03: Did you like it?
32:20
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I loved it.
32:20
SPEAKER_01: I loved it.
32:21
SPEAKER_01: And I um I got a couple thoughts on it.
32:24
SPEAKER_01: I love you know what he says about you know, um, the truest form or expression of love is is not uh in our prayer life and in and in ritual and whatnot.
32:36
SPEAKER_01: And I I think that that is so fitting, right?
32:40
SPEAKER_01: Because a lot of times, you know, especially on this show and certainly in recovery, we we put a huge emphasis on prayer and meditation and you know, centering ourselves with with our creator and you know everything like that.
32:52
SPEAKER_01: But that's just what that is, you know, like that is you know, um, I'm I'm asking for the answers, I'm asking for the guidance, right?
33:02
SPEAKER_01: And how often do we take issue with um you know religious folk and stuff like that, and people that you know, yeah, they'll they'll show up at church for an hour a week, yeah, they'll they'll pray and they'll do this and that, and you know, um, but what is what is our literature even say?
33:22
SPEAKER_01: Our literature says a spiritual life is not a theory, we have to live it, you know.
33:27
SPEAKER_01: And um, yeah, like if if we're not out there like putting in the action and and helping out other people, then what it what is it that we're actually doing except asking for guidance, right?
33:38
SPEAKER_01: And then still on the back end of that, take, take, take, take, take, take, take, right?
33:42
SPEAKER_01: Right.
33:43
SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, I think that's huge.
33:46
SPEAKER_01: And and I I love what you said about like getting to watch people grow in this, yeah.
33:51
SPEAKER_01: Um because that's that's the real payoff, right?
33:54
SPEAKER_01: When you when you see people that that you've helped along the way help other people, when you see them, you know, like you said, hit all those like just major important milestones in life, there's nothing more fulfilling than that, you know.
34:08
SPEAKER_01: Um and and yeah, again, I I I don't like to take any credit for that.
34:14
SPEAKER_01: As a matter of fact, it kind of makes me feel uncomfortable, but I know that uh I would turn around and say some of the same things to the the people that have been important in my journey along the ways.
34:24
SPEAKER_01: Like I wouldn't be here if if it weren't for you guys and this, that, and the other.
34:28
SPEAKER_01: Um you know, and I I say that as as a form of uh to honor those people and and as as the ultimate showing of respect, but we all know who that really belongs to at the end of the day, and all that glory and whatnot.
34:45
SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, I love that man, and I and I do believe that the um the truest uh form of of love is is really when we when we give um of ourselves completely.
35:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, with without without the thought of of return, you know.
35:06
SPEAKER_01: Um when you're when you can be truly selfless and not um not have any ulterior motives, I mean I think that that is is the absolute truest showing of love, you know.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: And I think that um it's all also a point where you know I think we can all strive to because you know, we're never especially in this society that we live in nowadays, and and you know, um the tendency for greed and all that.
35:37
SPEAKER_01: I think that there is um there's always, always uh a level to strive to.
35:44
SPEAKER_01: Um you know, and that one can never fully be uh nobody nobody wins a trophy for that one, you know.
35:51
SPEAKER_01: It's it's uh it's an ever and ongoing thing.
35:54
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, let's see that man.
35:56
SPEAKER_03: It's just interesting that um at least I find it interesting that everything boils down to that.
36:04
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
36:04
SPEAKER_03: No matter I mean, while I'm a little ignorant, so I can't say no matter what religion, but I'm assuming that well, I know that at least the most major religions boil down to like love and and unselfishness and altruism and stuff like that.
36:19
SPEAKER_03: And um basically at least most forms of spirituality that I've come across, you know, that those are the focal points.
36:27
SPEAKER_01: Oh, welcome aboard welcome aboard our rogue host.
36:31
SPEAKER_02: You guys alright?
36:32
SPEAKER_02: You guys hold it down?
36:33
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
36:34
SPEAKER_01: We're actually talking about uh the uh we Corey Corey just uh read a quote out of Chris McKinnell's book, The War and Legacy, talking about uh you know about our podcast, talking about our podcast.
36:46
SPEAKER_03: Unfortunately, I don't think we have a mention.
36:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but it's so if we do it was it it was good.
36:54
SPEAKER_01: Corey, do you want to read it again for the second time?
36:57
SPEAKER_03: Do you want to hear it, Sean?
36:59
SPEAKER_03: I would love to hear it.
37:00
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
37:02
SPEAKER_03: He says, My faith is this that love is not a sentiment.
37:07
SPEAKER_03: It is the fundamental nature of what everything is when the when the illusion of separation falls away.
37:13
SPEAKER_03: And the clearest expression of that love, the most direct path toward whatever God actually is, is not prayer or doctrine or ritual.
37:22
SPEAKER_03: It is the moment when I reach into someone's darkness and help them find their way back to themselves.
37:28
SPEAKER_02: Or you you should take that as your own, buddy.
37:30
SPEAKER_02: That's pretty good.
37:32
SPEAKER_03: Well, I might have I might have told him to write it though.
37:34
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's not exactly how I wrote it.
37:36
SPEAKER_02: He consulted you when he wrote his book.
37:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, you know, I may not have written the forward, but I might have given him some ideas.
37:44
SPEAKER_02: I get it.
37:45
SPEAKER_02: He's a very articulate man.
37:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
37:48
SPEAKER_03: And we we were just talking about everything you would think we'd would pull from that, like yeah, watching and helping others get sober, you know?
37:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
37:58
SPEAKER_03: I mean, what's it like for you?
38:00
SPEAKER_03: Sean, not to put you on blast here, but since you decided to ruin everything tonight by showing up, um, you know, again, I'm gonna throw it out there, Sean.
38:10
SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry.
38:10
SPEAKER_03: But you've you've you've helped a fair amount of people in your 15 years.
38:13
SPEAKER_03: By the way, happy 15 years the other day.
38:16
SPEAKER_01: Thank you very much.
38:16
SPEAKER_01: Yes, indeed.
38:17
SPEAKER_01: Yes, indeed.
38:18
SPEAKER_03: You but you've helped quite a quite a good amount of people, and I know not everybody stayed sober, and and you know, some people, Greg, are on their way out eventually.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: But uh these calves don't pull it through, I will be.
38:33
SPEAKER_03: But you know, like the family, like watching I mean, you watch me go from like a little shithead to having a family and helping a couple others get sober, and like obvious we already said it too.
38:45
SPEAKER_03: Uh obviously, all glory is to God with us.
38:48
SPEAKER_03: Uh, you know, we can't take any of the credit, but we can only hope it's a small part of it.
38:53
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
38:53
SPEAKER_03: What's that what's that been like for you?
38:56
SPEAKER_03: You've seen a lot of people come and go.
38:57
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, it's you know, thank you.
39:01
SPEAKER_02: Thank you for having me on your program, boys, by the way.
39:03
SPEAKER_02: Glad to be here.
39:04
SPEAKER_02: Um sorry I missed the beginning.
39:08
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's really cool because it's been 15 years and and uh I got to see and have dinner with an old friend tonight, two old friends, but one in particular that lives up here in this undisclosed location uh that may or may not also be on official CIA business with me.
39:25
SPEAKER_02: But uh the only person from my drinking days that I still keep in touch with, and and we've seen each other a handful of times over the years.
39:33
SPEAKER_02: I had my wife search him out on Facebook probably six, seven, eight years ago, because I owed him an amend, direct and financial, uh, which I have made, which is a cool story in and of itself.
39:44
SPEAKER_02: I might have told it on the pod before.
39:46
SPEAKER_02: But um we still keep in touch.
39:48
SPEAKER_02: He lives in Orlando, he's married with two kids, met his his wife in college, and and so today we were, and as we do every time, we reminisce about the the quote good old days, uh even though uh the good the good ones were few and far between at that point in my life.
40:04
SPEAKER_02: But I met him in high school and we partied a lot.
40:08
SPEAKER_02: In 15 years, which some days it seems like yesterday, other days it seems truly like a lifetime ago.
40:15
SPEAKER_02: Um, I think back what my mind first goes to is the different, I don't want to, for lack of a better word, friend groups that I have.
40:23
SPEAKER_02: Like I had a particular group of friends and people I hung out with, people I got sober with 15 years ago in those first few years.
40:31
SPEAKER_02: Then there was uh, you know, some years later, there was You Fine Gentleman at the at the Monday Night Recovery Group, uh, and and everybody, all the the ragtag, you know, bag of bandits that that came with.
40:43
SPEAKER_02: Um and now I kind of have a third set, and Corey, you're you're also you are also privy to that third set, and you know a lot of those same guys and were friends with those same guys, you know.
40:53
SPEAKER_02: And um, so it's really interesting, but I will say where it's most notable is in the gatherings and the get-togethers.
41:00
SPEAKER_02: Like you truly you get to see everyone come together, you get to see you get to see like kids grow up and people go through career changes and stuff like that.
41:10
SPEAKER_02: And even though everything we talk about, not everything, but like our program is not based upon anything material, anything um secular of this world.
41:21
SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, there was a wise old lady at an early morning meeting that I used to go to that said, you know, um, recovery doesn't promise us things, but recovery makes us responsible people, and responsible people get to have things, and and those things in life are not just toys and and cars and money-based things, but it's family and friends and a community around us.
41:46
SPEAKER_02: Um, so that's kind of where my mind goes to right away is like you want to see how how rich someone's sobriety is.
41:53
SPEAKER_02: Like, look at look at the the gathering of people around them, you know what I mean?
41:57
SPEAKER_02: Like, Corey, unfortunately, you know, we stopped inviting you to gatherings a long time ago.
42:01
SPEAKER_02: You know, that's tough, that's tough for you.
42:03
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
42:04
SPEAKER_02: But like if Greg were here, he'd totally be invited, you know.
42:07
SPEAKER_03: But I'm thriving, Sean.
42:09
SPEAKER_03: I know, I'm just messing with you.
42:10
SPEAKER_03: Thriving without all of you.
42:11
SPEAKER_02: My mom, uh happy, I'm sure you guys have already said it, but happy belated Mother's Day to all the wonderful mothers.
42:17
SPEAKER_02: My mom yesterday said, because naturally she talks about the pod every time I'm with her.
42:23
SPEAKER_02: And in you know, she's always got good ideas and she's always got a um, she had some stuff to say on our religion versus spirituality.
42:30
SPEAKER_02: Nothing bad necessarily, but um she just had stuff to say, which I knew she would.
42:35
SPEAKER_02: Um, but she said, You guys really give Corey a hard time, you know that we do.
42:42
SPEAKER_02: I was like, But mom, I check with him like biannually, twice a year to make sure he's good.
42:48
SPEAKER_02: And I promise you he's in on all the fun and in on all the jokes.
42:51
SPEAKER_03: Greg, Sean calls me the other dude.
42:53
SPEAKER_03: Listen, he we were at a we were at a recovery group Tuesday, and I I pretty much split right after, just wanted to get home, whatever.
43:03
SPEAKER_03: And I get home and I'm like, oh, I just I was talking to Gabby.
43:06
SPEAKER_03: I go, Oh, Sean's calling me.
43:07
SPEAKER_03: Weird, something's wrong.
43:09
SPEAKER_03: So I answer and he's like, Hey, you you good?
43:13
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, Yeah, what's up?
43:15
SPEAKER_03: And he's like, I don't know, you just seemed like a little more like uh grumpy, or I was like, I'm literally fine, I feel good right now.
43:23
SPEAKER_03: Like, what like how come you guys when I actually am pissed off, nobody picks up on it.
43:29
SPEAKER_02: It was you know what it was?
43:30
SPEAKER_02: It was is you not that you have to come out to dinner, but you didn't come out to dinner, but the way you said it, you're like, I'm going home by, which uh I know is like ultimately just your natural way, but it hey, listen, see, but there it is to answer your question, like that's part of it is like we check in on each other and not to be cheesy, but we we look out for each other, we check in on each other.
43:51
SPEAKER_02: You know, Greg, when when you your recent, you know, uh hiccup, let's say in life, like I know I wasn't the only one that reached out to you, you know.
44:00
SPEAKER_02: No, no, everybody did.
44:01
SPEAKER_02: That's what I mean.
44:01
SPEAKER_01: Everybody did.
44:02
SPEAKER_01: And everybody's been super supportive.
44:03
SPEAKER_01: And yeah.
44:04
SPEAKER_01: It's awesome.
44:05
SPEAKER_01: You know, I made fun of them.
44:06
SPEAKER_01: Because again, well, yeah, and and even like I said, you know, we were talking about last week, like we can roast each other and and then get real serious real quick.
44:16
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it's it's it's awesome.
44:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:18
SPEAKER_01: And it's a great feeling to know that um I've got that in my life today, you know, where those true friendships, you know.
44:26
SPEAKER_03: I don't know what other people do.
44:27
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I know like you don't have to be sober to have friends, obviously.
44:31
SPEAKER_03: But you know, you know what I mean.
44:33
SPEAKER_02: It's strange.
44:34
SPEAKER_02: I know.
44:35
SPEAKER_02: I I I'm not really sure.
44:37
SPEAKER_02: I do feel like life would be a lot less busy, and and I don't mean that in a good way.
44:42
SPEAKER_02: Like, I know we we joke and sometimes we're like, oh, I'm so busy and I wish I just had like nothing to do, but like I don't I don't think I really actually do wish that.
44:49
SPEAKER_02: I like being busy.
44:50
SPEAKER_02: There'd be a lot less action going on in life if we didn't have the friends and the and the community that we have in in recovery.
44:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, agreed.
45:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
45:02
SPEAKER_03: I mean, yeah, I got a busy week due to recovery.
45:06
SPEAKER_03: I do.
45:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, same, same.
45:09
SPEAKER_02: You know, and and it wouldn't be complete without a new guy that you're trying to mentor confirming with you the night before, yep, I'll be there at 9 30 in the morning tomorrow morning, and then they just never actually show up, and you don't get a text from them till like literally almost 12 hours later.
45:29
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, bro, I'm gonna slept in and I didn't set my alarm.
45:33
SPEAKER_01: It's like I did that to you.
45:35
SPEAKER_01: I wish I could sleep until 9 30.
45:37
SPEAKER_01: I know.
45:37
SPEAKER_01: I wish.
45:38
SPEAKER_02: I will say, in his defense, he he did just start a new job that he's working like overnights essentially, but he was off the day prior and the day we were supposed to meet.
45:47
SPEAKER_02: And I said, Are you sure that time is good?
45:50
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to mess with your sleep schedule.
45:52
SPEAKER_02: But you know, Corey, you said it, you did that.
45:55
SPEAKER_02: Everybody gets gets one or two.
45:57
SPEAKER_02: Depending on who you are, you get one or two like real, like just no call, no shows, kind of kind of thing, and then and then we're having a very serious conversation.
46:06
SPEAKER_03: I I definitely did it enough that you got real pissed at me once.
46:09
SPEAKER_03: So that might have been three times.
46:11
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
46:12
SPEAKER_03: You got pretty pissed once.
46:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe, maybe.
46:15
SPEAKER_03: Warranted though.
46:16
SPEAKER_03: You were always I I feel like you were always pretty good about it though, no?
46:20
SPEAKER_03: Well, yes.
46:20
SPEAKER_03: I mean, if you're if we're talking percentages, I'm like 98%.
46:24
SPEAKER_03: But like but I will say you were driving to my house at like six in the morning to pick me up, yeah, and then sitting in my driveway, and then I would just never come out.
46:35
SPEAKER_01: So that's even worse, dude.
46:37
SPEAKER_02: You know what though?
46:38
SPEAKER_02: I did that to Papa Ron a couple times, and he he had a thing.
46:41
SPEAKER_02: He would just pull up at the time, he didn't text, hey, I'm on my way, hey, I'm here.
46:46
SPEAKER_02: It was the night before, the day before, or three days before, whenever you talk to him, I'll be there at this time, and he'd come and he'd give you three honks.
46:55
SPEAKER_02: He'd honk another minute or two honk, another minute or two honk, and then he was gone.
47:00
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
47:00
SPEAKER_02: So that's the worst feeling.
47:03
SPEAKER_01: How hard are you gonna work for it, you know?
47:04
SPEAKER_02: How was uh not to switch too many gears, but how was Mother's Day for you boys?
47:09
SPEAKER_02: What'd you guys do?
47:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we we talked about it a little bit.
47:12
SPEAKER_03: I long story short, I did a bunch of manual labor for both my mother and my wife.
47:16
SPEAKER_03: So that's that's what I did.
47:18
SPEAKER_03: We did we did a garden bag yesterday.
47:21
SPEAKER_02: Ladies, for all the ladies that love this podcast, and for us, that's love right there.
47:29
SPEAKER_01: I woke up in Texas and went to bed in Ohio.
47:32
SPEAKER_01: So that's right.
47:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, how was the trip?
47:35
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure you talked about it right.
47:36
SPEAKER_01: It was good, it was good.
47:37
SPEAKER_01: Texas, Texas is a cool place.
47:39
SPEAKER_01: I will tell you this um like Dallas Fort Worth for for nobody.
47:46
SPEAKER_01: Well, first and foremost, I will say this because I've driven through West Texas before, and that gave me a really skewed picture in my mind of what I thought that Texas was.
48:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, so it is it is not all like desolate and and whatnot.
48:04
SPEAKER_01: And I obviously I knew there were big cities in the it's not all like landman.
48:09
SPEAKER_01: No, no, not at all.
48:11
SPEAKER_01: Um Dallas Fort Worth is massive, it's a massive area, you know.
48:16
SPEAKER_01: A metro friend they call it, and her friend lives like kind of smack dab in the middle of the two.
48:23
SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, we went and saw Fort Worth one day, which is really like like the old school kind of Texas with everybody's dressed like a cowboy, and you know, and they had the the running of the longhorns and stuff like that.
48:35
SPEAKER_01: It was really cool.
48:36
SPEAKER_01: And then Dallas is very much your your you know um where all your nightlife's at and all the you know the stadiums and stuff like that.
48:44
SPEAKER_01: Um I would love to go back and do some stuff there.
48:47
SPEAKER_01: Number one, they have a medieval times there, and I want to wreck so badly wreck some F H I T there, Gregory.
48:57
SPEAKER_01: Dude, I want so badly to go there and have dinner and sit VIP and get a chance to battle a knight.
49:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, so that that's that's one of my aspirations.
49:09
SPEAKER_01: Um, and also I'd really love their so obviously Daly Plaza is there for those uneducated folks out there, or maybe they're too young to understand.
49:17
SPEAKER_01: That is where our uh president John F.
49:20
SPEAKER_01: Kennedy was shot and killed.
49:22
SPEAKER_01: And we have all of we drove through it.
49:25
SPEAKER_01: We okay, um, did not leave enough time in the day to get out and do all the the the stuff.
49:30
SPEAKER_01: But as soon as you see it, dude, it's like you know, if you've watched the movie JFK, if you've studied the assassination, which I have countless times, as soon as you come around the corner, you're like, I know exactly where I'm at.
49:43
SPEAKER_01: And they actually have an X on the road, like painted on the road.
49:46
SPEAKER_01: But there's all these little plaques, and obviously you see the grassy knoll and you see the book depository, and you know, so it is it's where you're driving through regular downtown Dallas, and as soon as you turn that corner, man, it's like you take a step back in time.
50:02
SPEAKER_01: Wow, you know, so that's crazy.
50:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I would love to go.
50:06
SPEAKER_01: There's a there's obviously there's a museum there, and then there's um and I didn't know this either.
50:10
SPEAKER_01: Dallas has a Holocaust museum, so I would uh I'm I I love history, man.
50:15
SPEAKER_03: I'm a big history nut, so I'd love to I feel like a lot of cities have one for some reason.
50:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it's awesome.
50:20
SPEAKER_03: It's a pretty big, pretty big event from what I hear.
50:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, I I've been to one in DC and it's I mean it's terrible.
50:28
SPEAKER_03: I mean it's very interesting.
50:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, no, I agree with that.
50:30
SPEAKER_02: Well no, it's like a morbidly fascinating.
50:35
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
50:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
50:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
50:38
SPEAKER_02: And uh just FYI.
50:40
SPEAKER_02: If there are any strange sounds that you hear, it it's it's not me, I promise.
50:44
SPEAKER_03: But uh it's your drug dealer in the bathroom.
50:46
SPEAKER_02: You know, it could be the bubble guts.
50:49
SPEAKER_02: Good stuff.
50:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we didn't um Catherine had plans.
50:52
SPEAKER_02: Um, she actually had a couple of uh I guess the proper way to put it is mentees, ladies that she is mentoring.
51:00
SPEAKER_02: Um mentor mentee.
51:02
SPEAKER_02: I think that's right.
51:03
SPEAKER_02: She met with a couple of them.
51:05
SPEAKER_02: She had some pre pre-scheduled sessions with them yesterday, and then she spent um quite a good amount of hours just by herself, which was which is uh when you have three kids and a a loving, handsome, but very active husband.
51:20
SPEAKER_02: Uh some alone time is very good.
51:22
SPEAKER_02: So she had that.
51:23
SPEAKER_02: I took all three kids to the babysitter, got them out of the house for her, got myself out of the house because she had her, the ladies that she was with come over there.
51:32
SPEAKER_02: And um, I played golf with my dad and my cousin uh and a friend of mine who's kind of nice to be able to play golf on Mother's Day.
51:39
SPEAKER_02: And then we took uh my mom out to dinner with all of us, the kids, Catherine.
51:42
SPEAKER_02: We all went out.
51:43
SPEAKER_02: All good old downtown Stuart, way too expensive dinner, wonderful food, but expensive Hudson's on the water.
51:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so nice, but it's it's just expensive.
51:56
SPEAKER_02: Then we walked up and got ice cream from signature sweets and walked around downtown a little bit.
51:59
SPEAKER_02: It was it was a lovely evening, but a lovely evening.
52:02
SPEAKER_03: So I gotta be honest, flanagans is probably the way to go in downtown Stuart.
52:06
SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying.
52:06
SPEAKER_03: Or like Luna's or something.
52:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like Luna's Italian, it's good, that's great food, and it's a fraction of the price, but it was it was cool, it was fine, and we had a great time.
52:14
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't like out, it wasn't really that outrageous.
52:16
SPEAKER_02: You know what, you know what they get you with is so we always pay with credit card and then Catherine leaves cash tip because she's always got cash from being a waitress.
52:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but nowadays everybody puts 18% gratuity right in the bill, so like that makes that that final number jump up pretty high.
52:34
SPEAKER_02: Um but it uh but it works out because no, it's fine, it's fine.
52:37
SPEAKER_01: I was just saying, like that I I hate when they do that, dude, because I I'll tip more than that.
52:42
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
52:42
SPEAKER_02: We we always do, we always leave a little extra to to bring it above you know 20 to 25 or whatever.
52:48
SPEAKER_03: But I don't has anybody ever talked to a server though about like I don't know, like do they prefer that?
52:54
SPEAKER_02: We have there, it goes either way, some some do.
52:58
SPEAKER_02: Depending on where they are, some do, some, some don't like it.
53:01
SPEAKER_03: Um because some people get indignant about it and they go, Well, I'm not gonna tip more out of protest because they shouldn't have done that.
53:08
SPEAKER_03: Well, that's not the server's fault.
53:09
SPEAKER_02: 100%, yeah, 100%.
53:11
SPEAKER_02: But I don't you know what I mean, but then some jackasses will be like people that are just bad tippers, so that's at least ensures.
53:19
SPEAKER_02: So I think it I do think on balance it it might even itself out.
53:23
SPEAKER_02: So hey, real quick, dude, flagroad park in downtown Stewart is I'm not even exaggerating, literally like underwater.
53:32
SPEAKER_02: It's all roped off.
53:33
SPEAKER_02: Like so, I don't know, it can't be from rain.
53:35
SPEAKER_02: My my wife and my mom were trying to tell me, oh, it's just from all the rain.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: Dude, that it is.
53:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm Corey, I'm not even kidding you.
53:42
SPEAKER_02: It's like it's like a water main broke or something.
53:46
SPEAKER_02: It's crazy.
53:47
SPEAKER_02: It's all roped off, it's almost completely flat.
53:50
SPEAKER_01: I would say hopefully it wasn't caused by our former uh co-host in Philadelphia.
53:56
SPEAKER_01: Brian Mass.
53:56
SPEAKER_02: Brian Mass does have his office down there.
53:59
SPEAKER_02: Uh, by the way.
54:01
SPEAKER_01: Could be a conspiracy in the world.
54:02
SPEAKER_02: It literally, I would say probably more than 60% of it, the whole park you couldn't even walk on or go into because it's underwater and flooded.
54:12
SPEAKER_02: It's crazy.
54:12
SPEAKER_02: It's wild.
54:13
SPEAKER_03: You would you'd think there would be something.
54:15
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
54:16
SPEAKER_02: Maybe it was the rain, maybe it was just heavy rain and and something, but but yeah, good Mother's Day.
54:22
SPEAKER_02: Good Mother's Day.
54:23
SPEAKER_02: Very nice.
54:24
SPEAKER_03: That's good.
54:26
SPEAKER_02: Well, what else what else we got, fellas?
54:29
SPEAKER_02: What else should you guys talk about tonight?
54:33
SPEAKER_02: Um just our yeah, yeah, Dave Matthews.
54:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
54:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm I'm excited.
54:39
SPEAKER_02: You guys, Corey, you're going both days?
54:42
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
54:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
54:43
SPEAKER_02: And and probably Tuesday in Tampa.
54:45
SPEAKER_02: Do we have any idea?
54:47
SPEAKER_02: We don't have there's no way to know what the lineup is gonna be on either night, do we?
54:51
SPEAKER_02: The set?
54:52
SPEAKER_02: No.
54:52
SPEAKER_02: No, nothing, right?
54:53
SPEAKER_02: There's not even a glimmer of possibility.
54:57
SPEAKER_02: Nope.
54:57
SPEAKER_01: I can tell you I I would have a good idea if on back-to-back nights like that at the same venue, you you can get a good idea of what might come on the second night, yeah, if you attended the first.
55:11
SPEAKER_03: Well, you can you can count on Janine wants us to fly the plane higher.
55:15
SPEAKER_03: Um you can count on like the hits like one of the nights, you know what I mean?
55:21
SPEAKER_03: Like Grey Street and shit like that, like you're looking for.
55:23
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm gonna do.
55:25
SPEAKER_03: We don't know.
55:25
SPEAKER_03: You know me.
55:27
SPEAKER_02: All right, take us home, Greg.
55:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm done.
55:29
SPEAKER_02: All right.
55:30
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55:35
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55:40
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55:48
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55:55
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55:59
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56:03
SPEAKER_01: We'll see you next week.
56:05
SPEAKER_01: Cheers