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Clive Barker’s Beautiful Freaks - Nightbreed (1990) · Xenomania

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  Kearns: Shanghai shenanigans.
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  Ryan: watching,
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  Kearns: going on with your microphone.
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  Ryan: watching CNO mania.
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Episode 16 on Night Breed.
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  And unfortunately we don't have our epic intro because the software we
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  used to record crashed a second ago, so we missed our first three minutes
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  that we had, which was pretty good.
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  I'm not gonna lie, you guys are never gonna hear it.
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  Ryan: Nope,
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  Kearns: Sorry about that.
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  Ryan: it's in, it's in like a data
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  Jon: Sorry guys.
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  Ryan: Much like, like
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  Kearns: Much like, much like Midian.
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  So yeah,
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  Jon: It's
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  Kearns: we are discussing we're, yeah.
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  Good.
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  Shout out.
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  Good shout out for Shutter.
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  Good.
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  Shout out for Night Breed.
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  It's funny, every time I generate hashtags for this movie, shutter
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  is like the number one thing.
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  So I guess this must be, it's it's love child, it's little
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  Streamy love child for shutter.
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  Jon: think I've ever noticed it on there.
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  Ryan: I never noticed
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  Kearns: I wouldn't never noticed it either.
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  I watched it on Prime for like a dollar 99.
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  We can get anything on Prime.
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  I, you know what, actually I don't wanna do this.
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  Fuck you, Bezos.
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  I'm not helping you out.
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  All right.
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  You're a dick.
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  I hope you go up in your little blue capsule and get lost
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  out in space, but I digress.
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  You know who's not a one?
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  Percenter?
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  Aaron Boone.
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  Oh, well, yeah.
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  Jon: Aaron
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  Kearns: It's
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  Jon: and Boone.
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  Oh,
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  Kearns: Boone, Aaron, and Boone.
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  So we were talking about earlier how we thought the main character's name
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  in this movie is so outta place.
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  It's even more hilarious.
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  Like what kind of name is Aaron Boone for?
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  The main character
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  Ryan: A baseball player.
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  Kearns: of Night Breed.
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  Yeah.
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  But wow,
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  Jon: I
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  Kearns: it's, he sounds like he should be.
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  Jon: heavily influenced by
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  Kearns: Influenced by
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  Jon: Aaron Byrne,
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  Kearns: Aaron
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  Jon: Love Child, Aaron
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  Kearns: Love child, Aaron Perr and Daniel Boone's Love child.
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  That, that's a great idea by the way.
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  There's no way Barker was like, yeah, this is exactly what I'm going for,
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  Ryan: And
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  Kearns: I like it nonetheless.
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  Ryan: sitting in his attic typing away
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  Kearns: Typing
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  Ryan: is the plan He, his whole goal was
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  Kearns: this old en,
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  Ryan: Um, it's interesting 'cause he was feel, he feels like he was
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  Kearns: he feels like he en towards like monster superhero.
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  Ryan: of
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Ryan: where like they
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  Kearns: Tell me more.
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  Ryan: they can live forever.
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  He was
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  Kearns: Live forever,
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  Ryan: that?
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  Kearns: like.
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  Ryan: how, um, technically the book Cabal came about, which is night breed.
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  Kearns: Which is night breed.
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  And it's funny, I couldn't catch, so we were just laughing at me a second
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  ago because I couldn't figure out why Craig Scheffer was on, uh, the, the cast
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  list twice as Aaron Boone and Cabal.
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  And it's partially not my fault, if you look it up on IMDB, the, the photo they
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  use of him as cabal looks like it was his mugshot after a night of like drinking
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  nothing but absent and smoking tires.
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  That's it.
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  And then his, his picture as Aaron Boone looks like he's straight
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  out of a James Dean movie.
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  Like it's ridiculous the difference in the two.
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  So I'm only partially to blame for that one.
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  But yeah, cabal is the name of the original work that the movie is made from.
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  And what is Cabal?
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  Ryan
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  Ryan: Cabal was a,
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  Kearns: Cabal?
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  Ryan: would say it's a short novel
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  Kearns: say it's a short novel, uh.
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  Ryan: technically the character Aaron Boone, who goes on
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  this journey similar to the
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  Kearns: It's on this journey similar to the movie Night Breed and themes.
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  Ryan: similar to the
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  Kearns: like, I, it's very similar to the plot.
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  So like everything you see in the movie
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  Ryan: Um,
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  Kearns: in the book.
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  Ryan: minor, couple
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  Kearns: minor, minor, couple differences in the ending.
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  Ryan: But
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  Kearns: Wow.
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  But
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  Ryan: that's about it.
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  But the whole
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  Kearns: yeah, that's about it.
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  But the whole focus get this journey.
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  Finding Midian, um, accepting the fact that he's this monster
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  Ryan: are
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  Kearns: when the monsters are like, no, you're not,
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  Ryan: you
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  Kearns: um,
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  Ryan: screwed over,
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  Kearns: you were, uh, screwed over, but we'll basically,
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  Ryan: else to go.
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  Kearns: I think this is a racist story.
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  I just wanna get that outta the way.
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  I know that you guys weren't aware of this.
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  My wife is in the other room and just started laughing.
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  She went, this is a, this is a racist tale.
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  You said Midian because you, you are a Caucasian.
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  You are a gringo, as they say in Meridian.
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  Meridian rather.
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  I think this is Pablo Escobar's story and Clive Barker is thinly veiling.
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  That
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  Jon: I mean.
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  Kearns: to think, think about it.
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  Ryan: So
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  Jon: sort
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  Kearns: I sort of gotta,
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  Jon: is
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  Kearns: this is
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  Jon: the X-Men
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  Kearns: X-Men.
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  Jon: the X-Men movies.
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  Kearns: That one is actually racist though.
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  Like the X-Men is totally a metaphor about racism.
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  Yeah, that one really is.
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  Mine is a fever dream that I came up with as a joke when I thought I was
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  dying of laryngitis like an hour ago.
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  But, um, no, the second I knew that we were gonna say Midian Midian in this
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  way, and I was like, it just sounds like a white person's way of saying Midian.
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  Ryan: Well, he is white.
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  He's
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  Kearns: he's white,
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  Ryan: bark is
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  Kearns: he's insanely white.
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  Ryan: yes.
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  Kearns: He's the whitest of whites.
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  Ryan: His black hair
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  Kearns: It's like Clive Barker, Neil Gaman a ghost.
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  Ryan: That is why I didn't see his
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  Kearns: That is why I didn't see that
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  Ryan: He
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  Kearns: film,
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  Ryan: to be
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  Kearns: but oh yeah, I forgot about that.
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  Yeah, that's right.
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  That was very organically done because I'm an idiot.
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  But yeah, Neil Gaman is in the, um, is in one of the scenes of this movie,
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  Ryan: The club scene supposedly, and I still can't
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  Kearns: supposedly, and I still can't find him.
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  I have to watch it three times.
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  Did you watch the director's cut?
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  Ryan: That's,
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  Kearns: Yep.
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  You did?
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  Ryan: the only
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  Kearns: That's, that's the only version I have.
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  Um,
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  Ryan: Funny
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  Kearns: in like three frames.
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  Ryan: I
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Hey,
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  Ryan: the
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  Kearns: like there's
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  Ryan: is
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  Kearns: original
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  Ryan: which is the shitty
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  Kearns: which is.
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  Ryan: watch it.
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  Kearns: Version, don't watch it.
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  Ryan: director's
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  Kearns: the second is the director's cut from, uh, shout Factory.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: the
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  Kearns: The third version, the
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  Ryan: which is
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  Kearns: cabal cut, which is
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  Ryan: which
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  Kearns: minutes.
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  Ryan: would,
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  Kearns: And that's with all the added scenes, uh, added, uh, Midian scenes.
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  Ryan: one.
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  Kearns: it changes the story a lot though.
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  Ryan: I'm
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  Jon: That's so much night breed.
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  Kearns: It's, well, that's who gets more camera time and they flush out a little
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  bit of their side stories a bit more.
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  and the different versions have a different ending for one of our favorite
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  characters, A fan favorite character.
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  And I don't know if I pronounce his name right and I don't really care,
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  but the Narciss our face, dude.
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  Ryan: I thought you were gonna go with Dr.
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  Kearns: So you were gonna go with Dr. No.
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  Well, I hate him.
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  He, he scared the shit outta me as a kid.
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  I still can't close a top freezer without freaking out.
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  'cause that's son of a bitch and I saw that when I was very young.
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  Ryan: how he removes the
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  Jon: mask is, it's the
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  Kearns: his,
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  Jon: The mask is creepy.
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  Kearns: yeah.
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  Ryan: how he
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  Kearns: So if you're.
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  Ryan: He does it from the
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  Kearns: Uh huh.
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  Ryan: like,
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  And he pulls it up.
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  Well, they, I mean, they did some things with this movie that elevated it from
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  like, pretty good to Epic, I think.
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  I think this is one of those great movies that doesn't get nearly
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  enough talk time, from the nineties.
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  And, it's more than just the special effects.
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  And they do a great job with the costume design in this one.
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  They really do.
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  and the, just the unique way they depict all the different
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  characters, which pulling from the written page ain't that easy,
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  Ryan: No.
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  Kearns: you know what I mean?
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  Um, even with Clive around to like sort of help out, it's not that easy to do.
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  Um, and you could, he directed it.
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  Yeah.
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  Ryan: did.
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  Kearns: So he was definitely around.
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  Ryan: yeah, he was, he was in
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  Kearns: Oh yeah, he was he
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  Ryan: he direct right before this.
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  He
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  Kearns: direct right before this?
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  He did.
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  Hell raiser
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  Ryan: Hell
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  Kearns: and he did the
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  Ryan: Hellbound.
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  Kearns: raise.
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  Oh, then he totally brought, he's like, all right, I need everybody who was there.
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  Ryan: but
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  Kearns: Come here with your paint brushes.
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  Ryan: it's
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Ryan: the studio
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  Kearns: It's interesting that the studio have,
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  Ryan: I, I love this
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  Kearns: sorry, I, I love this film too.
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  Ryan: I was doing a lot of research and stuff.
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  There was no studio support, though.
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  They went from a $2 million budget to $11 million budget
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  Kearns: million
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  Ryan: they thought it was a
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  Kearns: because they thought
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  which they turned it into because of that reason.
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  Yeah.
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  Ryan: film is the
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  Kearns: Two minute film is the slacker version and it is it a hundred percent.
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  It is.
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  And that's the one that was widely seen.
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  and then there were like true Cabal fans who were pissed off about that because
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  they knew it was a bigger story than, uh, the, just the slasher portion.
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  But for its time period in the nineties, it was a hit as a slasher movie.
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  So it's difficult to say like, who's right and wrong on that one.
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  Plus the director's cut and the cabal cut did come out, so everybody's kind
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  of happy, just not maybe at that time I.
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  Ryan: remember
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  Kearns: I
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  Ryan: being locked in my
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  Kearns: it being locked
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  Ryan: Every
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  Kearns: my father's cabinet every other weekend.
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  I was
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  Ryan: it was
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  Kearns: to my father's house.
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  It was locked in his cabinet.
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  Right.
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  Ryan: stand
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  Kearns: like a VHS stand with the glass locked,
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  Ryan: it open.
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  Kearns: and I tried prying it open.
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  I got it open once
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  Ryan: in
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  Kearns: and I had
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  Ryan: He
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  Kearns: in my hand.
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  Ryan: other one
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  Kearns: He had, uh, what was the other one?
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  Yeah.
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  What other movies did you find in there, Ryan?
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  Ryan: raiser.
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  Um, none of the demons.
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  Kearns: Neither Demons.
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  Ryan: the demons.
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  He did,
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  Kearns: Neither demons.
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  He did he
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  Ryan: no.
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  None of those.
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  Kearns: Those,
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  Ryan: those
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  Kearns: no.
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  No Night shift nurses.
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  Ryan: was in the closet
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  Kearns: that was in the closet.
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  Oh, gee.
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  Jon: He knows where that was.
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  Don't worry.
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  Kearns: Yeah, that was a different spot.
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  Ryan: But
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  Jon: It's always the
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  Kearns: It's all I
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  Jon: the way.
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  Kearns: remember.
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  Ryan: oh yeah, same thing.
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  Kearns: Oh yeah, same thing.
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  Toys.
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  Ryan: the closet.
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  Is it?
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  Kearns: are always in the closet.
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  Like, like Future Christmas gifts listeners.
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  That's what he's talking about.
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  Ryan: Like,
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Jon: Okay.
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  Kearns: That's what he means.
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  Yeah.
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  Ryan: wrestling figures, um, action figures.
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  Kearns: Action figures.
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  Ryan: 13
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  Kearns: gonna get back to night breed.
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  Ryan: Um, yes,
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  Kearns: That was great.
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  So yeah, we're back.
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  So you pulled it out of his cabinet?
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  The forbidden cabinet of curiosities.
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  Ryan: I
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  Kearns: Oh,
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  Ryan: got it into the VECR.
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  Kearns: in
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  Ryan: slipped it in
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  Kearns: I, uh,
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  Jon: It in.
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  Kearns: you know,
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  Ryan: I start watching
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  Kearns: I hate you.
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  Ryan: um, I got like
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  Kearns: Um, I got like
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  Ryan: pulled it out.
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  Kearns: minutes in and then pulled it out.
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  Doing And
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  Ryan: that was my first encounter.
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  But, you know,
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  Kearns: do, do it.
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  You son a bitch,
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  John, don't you do it?
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  That just take, that takes a darker turn than any other portion
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  of this conversation would.
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  Ugh.
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  Going, daddy Donovan on 'em.
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  If you get that reference, I salute you, but we're not going to explain it.
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  All right.
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  So, so Ryan got, Ryan watched it when he wasn't supposed to.
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  Okay.
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  And that was the 102 minutes Laster version, right?
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  Ryan: Yeah, it it's a.
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  Kearns: All,
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  Ryan: I
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  Kearns: yeah.
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  It, it's, uh,
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  Ryan: it's,
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  Kearns: feel like,
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  Ryan: the opening's different.
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  Um,
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  Kearns: I
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  Ryan: I feel like the director's cut.
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  Kearns: feel like the director's cut.
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  It gives you that vibe of it's not, I don't know.
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  I was talking to John about this,
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  Ryan: week,
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  Kearns: uh,
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  Ryan: feel
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  Kearns: last week.
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  Ryan: film.
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  Kearns: feel like it's a horror film.
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  Jon: No.
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  Ryan: horror, but it's like fantasy.
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  Kearns: dark fantasy adventure.
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  Yeah.
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  It's a hundred percent dark fantasy.
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  Yeah.
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  Ryan: it, but it's like, can you, you can consider it thriller.
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  I mean, your thoughts on it.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: guy can win at the end of a horror movie, I will make that argument like the
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  good person can win or they can survive.
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  At least winning might be a little bit too much, but there can't be like a
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  whole new adventure awaits, and you're getting into fantasy when you get into
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  there and that's why like that's how I know I wrote a dark fantasy series and
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  not a horror series for that very reason.
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  Like things like that.
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  You can have blood guts and gore and dark fantasy and cool monsters and stuff too.
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  But what else do you think John differentiates the two because you're
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  the most horror guy I've ever met.
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  Jon: Um,
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  Kearns: Ryan.
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  Jon: would say
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  Kearns: I.
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  Jon: largely the lack of scares.
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  Like it's night breed's not a scary movie.
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  Night breed is it's gory silence of the lambs with monsters.
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  And I don't,
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Kearns: Oh, that's right.
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  Jon: doesn't fall into horror for me.
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  Ryan: no,
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  Kearns: That's right.
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  Ryan: no.
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  It's a drama.
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  Kearns: It's not even a little psychological.
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  Jon: I don't
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  Kearns: No, I keep,
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  Jon: of the
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  Kearns: I scratch at this
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  Jon: button for me.
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  Kearns: because this is controversial and controversy gets clicks my friend.
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  So you and I are going to keep batting this little birdie back and forth,
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  but I, I don't disagree with you.
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  It's just so much fun to scratch at it.
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  Um, 'cause it is kind of a hot take.
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  That sounds The Lambs is not a horror movie
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  Jon: No, it's
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  Kearns: and nor is Night Breeded.
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  Jon: and
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  Kearns: a thriller.
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  Jon: isn't either, which
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  Kearns: I think, I think you're dead on with night Breed.
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  Jon: it.
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  I mean, they're both great just to me.
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  Kearns: Well.
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  Jon: of the Lambs in particular is not, has almost none of the
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  beats that I would call horror
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  Kearns: Black.
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  I said, I almost said blockbuster.
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  Blockbuster.
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  Don't edit that out.
• 13:38
  We're keeping it in blockbuster.
• 13:42
  Blockbuster doesn't have a dark fantasy section.
• 13:45
  It has a horror section.
• 13:47
  Ryan: Yes.
• 13:47
  Kearns: So that's why it's, it's, I mean, movies have far fewer genre capabilities
• 13:53
  than do books and things like that.
• 13:56
  Maybe not so much today, but kind of, yeah, still today, so I'm with you, man.
• 14:02
  I think that they just, they were like, well, we have to, we
• 14:04
  have to market it as something.
• 14:05
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 14:06
  Kearns: who it is.
• 14:08
  Ryan: I feel like they had no
• 14:09
  Jon: It's like, I
• 14:10
  Kearns: Head.
• 14:11
  Yeah.
• 14:12
  Jon: of the Lambs and Night Breed have some
• 14:14
  Kearns: Some real life
• 14:15
  Jon: scary
• 14:16
  Kearns: scary elements.
• 14:17
  Serial killers are inherently scary,
• 14:19
  Jon: but
• 14:20
  Kearns: but
• 14:22
  Jon: neither one feels scary as an overall movie.
• 14:27
  The internal concept has some scares to it.
• 14:31
  Ryan: Especially the
• 14:32
  Kearns: And then yeah.
• 14:34
  Ryan: are
• 14:34
  Kearns: That the monsters are technically the good guys.
• 14:37
  Ryan: They're just hiding away.
• 14:38
  They're
• 14:39
  Kearns: Hiding away.
• 14:40
  They're trying to just,
• 14:40
  Ryan: and boon fucks it up,
• 14:44
  Kearns: he fucks it up.
• 14:45
  Yeah.
• 14:45
  He does much like his career.
• 14:49
  Ryan: which
• 14:49
  Kearns: He messes everything up.
• 14:51
  Ryan: career is minimal.
• 14:52
  I
• 14:53
  Kearns: His career is minimal.
• 14:54
  I didn't even find anything big.
• 14:56
  The only big thing I saw was for Ann Bobby.
• 14:59
  Ryan: She
• 14:59
  Kearns: Who's Lori,
• 15:00
  Ryan: shock
• 15:01
  Kearns: was in bio shock as Bridget.
• 15:03
  10 bomb
• 15:04
  Ryan: fans listening
• 15:05
  Kearns: fans
• 15:05
  Ryan: as
• 15:06
  Kearns: listening
• 15:06
  Ryan: I,
• 15:07
  Kearns: as well as I, I mean, we got David Cronenberg, who's of course,
• 15:10
  a legend in writing and directing.
• 15:12
  Yeah.
• 15:13
  He, he crushes his role.
• 15:14
  Ryan: yeah, he does.
• 15:16
  Kearns: get into him in a bit.
• 15:17
  Ryan: That was definitely a favor.
• 15:18
  Kearns: Sorry.
• 15:18
  I'm like, I'm like looking intently for the one guy.
• 15:23
  I can't find him of course.
• 15:25
  But, um, there's one of the night breed that scares the shit outta
• 15:28
  you in the beginning before you realize they're the good guys.
• 15:30
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 15:30
  Kearns: coming to eat his face after they find, after Boone finds them.
• 15:34
  Yeah, thank you.
• 15:36
  And I'm just like, ugh.
• 15:38
  Like he was scary as a kid, as an adult, you're like, oh, okay, here we go.
• 15:42
  The,
• 15:43
  Jon: Yeah.
• 15:43
  Kearns: the a hundred meter dash one is getting after him now and
• 15:46
  they chases him down a little bit.
• 15:48
  Ryan: I
• 15:48
  Kearns: But yeah.
• 15:49
  Ryan: I always like Kinsky who had like the crescent head
• 15:52
  Kearns: Who had like the Crescent
• 15:53
  Ryan: the Eel guy.
• 15:54
  I thought
• 15:55
  Kearns: the Eel guy?
• 15:56
  I thought the eel guy was like, he was kind of freaky too.
• 15:59
  That was the one that kind of made me squeamish and then I was like,
• 16:02
  maybe I shouldn't be watching this movie when I was little.
• 16:04
  'cause it is disturbing the night Breeded characters are disturbing to look at.
• 16:09
  Jon: Yes.
• 16:10
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 16:11
  Jon: and I would say
• 16:12
  Kearns: I, I would say that
• 16:13
  Jon: it and pushes it slightly into horror is the monster.
• 16:18
  The monster
• 16:18
  Kearns: it demonstr to our
• 16:19
  Jon: scary looking.
• 16:20
  Kearns: area.
• 16:22
  Yeah.
• 16:22
  And they have their reasons.
• 16:25
  Do we have definitive reasons for why each one has its own unique look?
• 16:31
  Ryan: I feel like Rose,
• 16:32
  Kearns: I feel like Rose,
• 16:34
  Ryan: she's got a
• 16:34
  Kearns: she like,
• 16:35
  Ryan: power, so
• 16:35
  Kearns: she's got a specific power, so like she can like become smoke,
• 16:38
  Ryan: herself into different
• 16:39
  Kearns: transport herself
• 16:40
  Ryan: her daughter, uh,
• 16:42
  Kearns: her daughter,
• 16:43
  Ryan: she's like, uh, a creature.
• 16:46
  So in the sunlight,
• 16:47
  Kearns: so in the sunlight,
• 16:48
  Ryan: this like nymph monster, but in the dark, she's
• 16:52
  Kearns: but in the dark.
• 16:53
  She's human.
• 16:54
  Ryan: each have their
• 16:54
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 16:55
  some of 'em are just gross.
• 16:57
  Ryan: Yes, I,
• 16:58
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 16:59
  Ryan: like,
• 16:59
  Kearns: look funky.
• 17:00
  Ryan: the one that looks like, ah, from
• 17:01
  Kearns: Who was the one that looks like a real monster?
• 17:03
  Yeah.
• 17:04
  Got like the,
• 17:05
  Ryan: and the
• 17:05
  Kearns: like the face on the stomach and the Yeah, and CE has the, just the
• 17:11
  like he doesn't have superpowers, right?
• 17:13
  He just has the face and the rest of his peeled off his scalp and everything.
• 17:17
  Ryan: I,
• 17:17
  Kearns: He's cool.
• 17:18
  Ryan: the best character in the whole like movie.
• 17:21
  Kearns: He's the, well, he is a favorite.
• 17:23
  And so getting into him in a little bit, we're gonna talk about sort of what they
• 17:26
  did with the other cuts of the movie.
• 17:28
  So I don't wanna get too much into him yet.
• 17:30
  I guess now I might as well.
• 17:32
  'cause I forgot what I was gonna lead into a second.
• 17:34
  Oh no I didn't.
• 17:35
  Um, Cavan came to mind because they do something with the night creatures in
• 17:40
  that, which when I watched the first run of it and they made night creatures,
• 17:44
  which are just like, they, they're rein, they're not vampires, John,
• 17:48
  they're like reincarnated versions of people, but as night creatures, they can
• 17:52
  only come out at night kind of thing.
• 17:54
  Um, it's night breed.
• 17:55
  Ryan: That's true
• 17:56
  Kearns: It's the exact same idea.
• 17:58
  It's it's Midian style creatures, but they menace the villagers
• 18:02
  in like 1660 or whatever.
• 18:05
  So I thought that they kind of ripped off that idea.
• 18:08
  I.
• 18:08
  Ryan: sense why they changed it
• 18:09
  Kearns: It makes sense why they changed it by like season two and
• 18:12
  three Yeah, they, they evolved them
• 18:14
  Ryan: That explains a lot.
• 18:17
  Kearns: and the new version of it, um, they, they make them center characters
• 18:22
  and whatnot, but they also, they can carry their traits over too from when
• 18:26
  they were alive, which is another interesting aspect of them in the new
• 18:29
  one, which is even more night breed.
• 18:32
  Ryan: Yes.
• 18:32
  Kearns: So it just gets interesting.
• 18:35
  But anyway, we're not gonna spend too much time on that.
• 18:38
  so narcissist character, let's get into how traumatizing that can be to watch.
• 18:44
  How does he become one of the night breed?
• 18:46
  How does anybody become one of the night breed?
• 18:49
  Ryan: Seems like death
• 18:50
  Kearns: It's like death.
• 18:52
  Ryan: it seems like death and getting
• 18:53
  Kearns: It's little from column a little from column B.
• 18:56
  So not getting bit to death, but getting bit then dying.
• 18:59
  Ryan: that's how I would presume,
• 19:01
  Kearns: I would,
• 19:02
  Ryan: but it's questionable.
• 19:03
  Kearns: what's questionable.
• 19:04
  Jon: did Aaron
• 19:05
  Kearns: Did Aaron leaping die?
• 19:07
  Ryan: I, while he gets
• 19:09
  Kearns: I don't recall.
• 19:10
  He gets bit,
• 19:11
  Jon: He
• 19:11
  Kearns: he does get Bit bit
• 19:12
  Ryan: and then he gets shot
• 19:14
  Kearns: and then he gets shots of ribbon
• 19:16
  Ryan: Police because of Dr. P Decker.
• 19:20
  Kearns: deck
• 19:20
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 19:21
  Kearns: at p Decker.
• 19:22
  He's such a p decker
• 19:23
  Ryan: is.
• 19:24
  Kearns: of a doctor.
• 19:25
  Ryan: wonder if he
• 19:26
  Kearns: He does get shot to ribbons too.
• 19:27
  You're right.
• 19:28
  Yeah.
• 19:28
  Maybe.
• 19:29
  I don't know how we didn't pick up on that, John.
• 19:32
  Jon: Yeah.
• 19:32
  Kearns: That is an A, B, C.
• 19:36
  So yeah, Ryan.
• 19:38
  Ryan let us there.
• 19:39
  Thank you bud.
• 19:40
  So yeah, I guess you have to get bit and then you die.
• 19:42
  Get a little night breed infectivity
• 19:44
  Ryan: though.
• 19:45
  When we cover
• 19:46
  Kearns: and off you go.
• 19:46
  Jon: It's still not,
• 19:48
  Ryan: there's
• 19:48
  Jon: I'm still not sure he had to die.
• 19:51
  Kearns: Okay.
• 19:52
  So the movie itself.
• 19:55
  has different versions before we get into the endings.
• 19:58
  We were talking about this earlier.
• 19:59
  I don't know if it's on camera.
• 20:00
  We're gonna run through it again, but there's a original version
• 20:04
  that's the slasher, the slasher one.
• 20:06
  Uh, that was great in the nineties and 'cause everybody loves slashers
• 20:10
  in the early nineties it was, and the movie came out in what, like 93
• 20:13
  Ryan: 1990.
• 20:14
  Kearns: or something?
• 20:15
  1990. 1990. The actual nine zero.
• 20:18
  Ryan: 1990.
• 20:19
  Kearns: When it was also good.
• 20:21
  So then after that, um.
• 20:24
  They, they distilled down a lot of what made Cabal cabal, but they
• 20:29
  didn't necessarily make a bad movie.
• 20:31
  It was a good movie with the slasher aspect, which is Dr.
• 20:35
  Dicker or whatever his name is.
• 20:37
  And he runs around this epic mask and he, he's wrecking people and it is terrifying.
• 20:44
  It's way more terrifying than any of the night breed scenes, in my opinion.
• 20:47
  When he's going through houses
• 20:49
  Ryan: Yes.
• 20:49
  Kearns: after it,
• 20:50
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 20:50
  Kearns: it really is good.
• 20:51
  And so there's an ending for that version, but then there's a director's
• 20:55
  cut, which is kind of the same as the 102 minute original slasher version.
• 21:01
  Ryan: It's close.
• 21:02
  Yes.
• 21:02
  Kearns: And then there's the cabal version, which is how many minutes long.
• 21:06
  Ryan: 159.
• 21:08
  Kearns: 159 minutes and has a wildly different ending, which changes
• 21:12
  things for our favorite character a little bit, but not much actually.
• 21:15
  I think the director's cut's the one that changes things for our
• 21:17
  favorite character, by the way.
• 21:19
  Not the cabal version, but we'll talk about that in a sec too.
• 21:23
  Yeah, and then, so that's, the listener knows that there are these three
• 21:27
  different versions out there that all have their different aspects.
• 21:30
  Okay.
• 21:31
  Now go with what you were gonna say about the original one.
• 21:37
  Ryan,
• 21:38
  Ryan: well, do you wanna just
• 21:41
  Kearns: just
• 21:41
  Ryan: real
• 21:42
  Kearns: cover each ending real quick.
• 21:44
  We could, I mean, if you haven't seen Night Breed, it's been 25 years.
• 21:48
  No, 35, sorry, huh?
• 21:51
  Ryan: spoiler alert.
• 21:54
  So,
• 21:55
  Kearns: Spoilers are incoming.
• 21:57
  Ryan: um, the original, well, the original film, the first version,
• 22:01
  the 102 minute, the slasher film, uh, ends with Dr. Decker's
• 22:05
  Kearns: with
• 22:05
  Ryan: that was the
• 22:07
  Kearns: Decker gets Dickered the first
• 22:08
  Ryan: He
• 22:09
  Kearns: greeting.
• 22:09
  Ryan: dickered
• 22:09
  Kearns: Yes, he does.
• 22:10
  He gets dickered and uh,
• 22:12
  Ryan: horrible.
• 22:13
  the ending.
• 22:14
  So
• 22:14
  Kearns: hated the ending.
• 22:15
  So they do the director's cut, which is
• 22:18
  Ryan: boon, kind of like,
• 22:20
  Kearns: who, kind of like
• 22:21
  Ryan: Lori.
• 22:22
  Kearns: where he turned.
• 22:23
  Lori, Lori commit suicide.
• 22:25
  She kills herself
• 22:27
  Ryan: and
• 22:27
  Kearns: she bites her
• 22:28
  Ryan: Now this
• 22:28
  Kearns: she turns to the Ry.
• 22:29
  Now this is where it becomes questionable about turning into She died first.
• 22:35
  Ryan: And then he
• 22:36
  Kearns: And then
• 22:37
  Ryan: and she's reanimated
• 22:39
  Kearns: she's reanimated
• 22:41
  Ryan: bend the other way around.
• 22:42
  You know what I
• 22:42
  Kearns: the other way around.
• 22:43
  You know what I mean?
• 22:44
  They should make the, they should make a rule for something like that, that you
• 22:47
  turn more into like a ghoul or something rather, and then make it sad for Boone
• 22:50
  Ryan: The gremlin rule.
• 22:52
  Kearns: like.
• 22:53
  Yeah, like Boone has a gremlin girlfriend now that he has to take
• 22:56
  care of because he did it badly.
• 22:59
  He did the bad thing.
• 23:00
  That would've been cool.
• 23:00
  Clive, where are you on that one?
• 23:02
  Ryan: It's a good premise, actually.
• 23:04
  Like
• 23:05
  Kearns: Yeah, where's my millions?
• 23:07
  I don't know.
• 23:08
  Haven't found 'em.
• 23:09
  so that's one version, but also I believe there's a, a big difference
• 23:13
  from the in 1 0 2, 1 of the favorite characters in the movie.
• 23:18
  the Reggie of Night Breed, if you will, if you've been
• 23:20
  following our fantasm episodes.
• 23:22
  Narciss, he's sitting there as, the guy that everybody loves and at the end of
• 23:28
  one of the versions, they kill him for added effect, like a little gut punch.
• 23:34
  Ryan: I saw.
• 23:35
  Kearns: The one I saw.
• 23:35
  Yeah.
• 23:36
  That's the first version.
• 23:37
  The one there.
• 23:37
  That's that one of them.
• 23:41
  No, that's the director's cut.
• 23:43
  They kill him.
• 23:43
  Yeah.
• 23:44
  So in the original version, he lives the director's cut version.
• 23:47
  They kill him and bring his head out on a stick.
• 23:49
  And everybody's sad because they love him.
• 23:51
  Narcissist or narcissist?
• 23:53
  No.
• 23:53
  And he is cool.
• 23:54
  and then in the cabal cut they don't kill him again because
• 23:58
  that honors the, the actual novel.
• 24:01
  So, or the actual, uh, source material.
• 24:03
  So because he's not dead in that, he's not dead in, in nickel ball cut.
• 24:08
  So Narciss is back
• 24:09
  Ryan: Which, if they were gonna do the trilogy as Clive
• 24:13
  Kearns: the trilogy at
• 24:14
  Ryan: that ending where
• 24:16
  Kearns: ending where the priest, uh, Ashbury Decker.
• 24:21
  Ryan: Baus is, um, blood I, that I would've been hyped for that.
• 24:27
  Kearns: doubt I would've been that, that would've been cool.
• 24:29
  Ryan: Like, like
• 24:31
  Kearns: Then.
• 24:31
  It's a night breed on night breed crimes.
• 24:33
  Ryan: night, breed on the
• 24:34
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 24:34
  I mean, bring it, bring it out.
• 24:37
  Bring it out.
• 24:37
  What's Boone doing?
• 24:38
  He's,
• 24:39
  Ryan: nothing.
• 24:40
  Kearns: making, he's not making logic commercials to compete
• 24:44
  with Steven Dorf e-cigarette ads.
• 24:48
  So get him out here.
• 24:50
  I feel like I've seen him in something recently.
• 24:52
  It's bothering me.
• 24:53
  I gotta look up his I-M-D-B-A Now while you guys chat more
• 24:57
  about the other versions.
• 24:59
  Ryan: I didn't,
• 25:01
  Jon: So I think I've
• 25:02
  Kearns: I think I seen
• 25:02
  Jon: the director's
• 25:03
  Kearns: the direct.
• 25:04
  Yeah.
• 25:05
  Ryan: Okay,
• 25:05
  Jon: or at least
• 25:06
  Kearns: Or
• 25:06
  Jon: I remember.
• 25:08
  Ryan: so you've never seen
• 25:09
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 25:09
  Ryan: cut then.
• 25:11
  Jon: No, I've definitely never seen the Koal cut.
• 25:14
  Ryan: I wonder if it's like hard to get ahold of
• 25:17
  Kearns: I think that it's available on, um, I think it's available on Prime.
• 25:22
  Not on Prime for free.
• 25:23
  Like you can buy it, but I'm not certain.
• 25:24
  Ryan: 1999.
• 25:25
  Kearns: I mean, they ain't cheap.
• 25:28
  That's kind of how they make their cash know.
• 25:31
  I mean, oh my God, this guy's headshot are unbelievable.
• 25:35
  I'm not entirely unsure.
• 25:36
  This man wasn't in Footloose.
• 25:39
  Holy hell.
• 25:41
  Jon: He played Richard
• 25:42
  Kearns: The last Richard Nixon American cars.
• 25:45
  You know what though?
• 25:47
  Good for him.
• 25:47
  Uh, season he was in three episodes, 2021.
• 25:52
  So somewhat recent.
• 25:53
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 25:54
  Kearns: Well, after I stopped watching, um, no, I can't seem to find anything
• 25:59
  that I would've watched where I would've been like, that was him.
• 26:02
  Like, I felt like it would've been like Black Hawk Down or something like that.
• 26:05
  You know what I mean?
• 26:05
  Where everybody's in it
• 26:07
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 26:07
  Kearns: and you just sort of lose people in it.
• 26:09
  Tom's new heaven, but it's NU
• 26:12
  Ryan: You know, I know
• 26:13
  Jon: Yeah.
• 26:13
  Ryan: this in the
• 26:14
  Kearns: you know,
• 26:14
  Ryan: intro.
• 26:15
  Kearns: we mentioned this in the original intro.
• 26:17
  I'll say it again.
• 26:18
  He does like Peter Green.
• 26:20
  Ryan: Tyrell.
• 26:21
  Kearns: He does.
• 26:22
  Ryan: does.
• 26:23
  Kearns: does indeed.
• 26:24
  He's in ritual.
• 26:25
  I thought it was him.
• 26:26
  Ryan: thought that was a typo.
• 26:28
  Kearns: that,
• 26:29
  Ryan: Like, I was like, wait a minute,
• 26:31
  Kearns: oh, Barker must have liked him.
• 26:33
  And he's in Hell Raiser Inferno too,
• 26:35
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 26:36
  Kearns: just 10 years later.
• 26:37
  But he's also in Ritual, which might be his biggest movie, biggest
• 26:41
  budget movie besides maybe that Hellraiser one, but that's about it.
• 26:46
  We got, we got a whole lot of nothing here.
• 26:48
  I mean, there's a ton of movies.
• 26:49
  They're all just hot garbage.
• 26:51
  All Fire in the Sky is where I remember him from.
• 26:54
  Okay.
• 26:54
  Well at least that's, that's put to bed.
• 26:57
  He had a nice run there in the early nineties
• 26:59
  Ryan: on this one.
• 27:00
  I, I
• 27:00
  Kearns: there on this one.
• 27:01
  Ryan: a lot of the hell raise direct to
• 27:03
  Kearns: A lot of the Hell Racer Direct Suit
• 27:05
  Ryan: stand him.
• 27:06
  Inferno was decent.
• 27:07
  And that's the one
• 27:08
  Kearns: Inferno was decent.
• 27:09
  That's the one with Greg Sheer.
• 27:10
  Ryan: He's
• 27:10
  Kearns: Yeah, that's, he's like.
• 27:12
  Ryan: And he finds the box, uh, the.
• 27:14
  In a crime scene and he solves it and he's like going back and forth between
• 27:19
  Kearns: Going back and forth between
• 27:21
  Ryan: And
• 27:21
  Kearns: reality and health.
• 27:22
  Ryan: It's got
• 27:22
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 27:23
  It got,
• 27:23
  Ryan: Ro,
• 27:24
  Kearns: it's got Nicholas
• 27:25
  Ryan: Doug
• 27:26
  Kearns: Romar,
• 27:27
  Ryan: got a
• 27:27
  Kearns: Doug Bradley.
• 27:29
  Mm-hmm.
• 27:31
  Ryan: and it's a
• 27:32
  Kearns: I mean, it sounds pretty good
• 27:33
  Ryan: decent one.
• 27:34
  As much as I talk shit on 'em, all
• 27:36
  Kearns: as
• 27:36
  Ryan: one's pretty decent.
• 27:39
  Kearns: you are.
• 27:39
  Not too bad.
• 27:40
  Um, he's not a bad actor either.
• 27:42
  I mean, he's not like great, but he's no worse than any of the people who rose
• 27:47
  to fame in the middle or late nineties.
• 27:49
  Action movies and things like that, except for Nicholas Cage.
• 27:51
  Said, anybody says anything bad about that man's acting skills
• 27:54
  and they gotta deal with me.
• 27:55
  All right.
• 27:55
  He was a freaking master actor throughout his entire career.
• 28:00
  Everything.
• 28:00
  He's done everything,
• 28:02
  Ryan: Are we gonna
• 28:02
  Jon: Everything.
• 28:03
  Kearns: everything, everything.
• 28:04
  Talk about snake ice.
• 28:05
  Jon: Everything.
• 28:06
  Kearns: should, we should talk about snake ice for hours because it's a masterpiece.
• 28:10
  Deadfall.
• 28:11
  Jon: Dead fall.
• 28:12
  Ryan: Dead fall?
• 28:13
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 28:14
  Jon: I
• 28:14
  Kearns: What about it
• 28:15
  Jon: you to watch all of
• 28:16
  Kearns: to watch All Dead.
• 28:18
  Jon: I challenge
• 28:19
  Kearns: bet you he has worse movies than dead.
• 28:21
  Fall
• 28:22
  Jon: all hour and 45
• 28:24
  Kearns: all hour, 45 minutes of dead.
• 28:27
  Jon: especially
• 28:27
  Kearns: Especially the
• 28:29
  Jon: he's
• 28:29
  Kearns: half an hour's dead.
• 28:32
  Ryan: When he is not
• 28:32
  Kearns: Oh, well then I'm just gonna have long legs on, on the side, but
• 28:35
  just loop the first 10 minutes of long legs over and over again four times.
• 28:39
  Jon: When he's dead and Charlie Sheen shows up looking like Colonel Sanders,
• 28:44
  I challenge you to finish dead fall.
• 28:48
  Kearns: I'll, I will, I'll do it.
• 28:52
  Ryan: you.
• 28:52
  Kearns: I mean, you have standards, John,
• 28:54
  Jon: I have, sir. I have no standards.
• 29:00
  Kearns: but Nicholas Cage's, um, infamy.
• 29:03
  Aside.
• 29:05
  Yeah.
• 29:06
  Boone, I mean, Boone, I almost called him Boone.
• 29:09
  She's pretty good actor.
• 29:10
  It's like I said, there's nothing wrong with him, but he fell off.
• 29:12
  I don't know if he, he got into stuff in real life.
• 29:14
  I really don't care either.
• 29:16
  Uh, people have their lives, but he could have been in
• 29:18
  more, he could have done more.
• 29:19
  Jon: he kind of
• 29:20
  Kearns: That would've been cool.
• 29:21
  Jon: Stephen Dorf once Stephen
• 29:24
  Kearns: Maybe.
• 29:25
  Jon: to take those roles.
• 29:27
  Kearns: I mean, you're not wrong.
• 29:28
  That would be where he would've gone and like one of the two
• 29:32
  of them went to Harvey's office
• 29:35
  Ryan: listen, I can't
• 29:37
  Kearns: and it doesn't seem like it was Craig.
• 29:38
  Ryan: see Craig as Deacon Frost though.
• 29:40
  Kearns: Craig.
• 29:42
  Ryan: I Come on now.
• 29:46
  Kearns: Oh, you can't, and there's a reason for that.
• 29:50
  Ryan: God dammit.
• 29:51
  Weinstein.
• 29:54
  Kearns: You're self a bitch, which you did.
• 29:57
  But, um, on a serious note, what he did was terrible and I don't condone it.
• 30:00
  And also Steven Dorf is pretty good actor too, but like on par with Craig
• 30:05
  Scheffer, um, who did, I mean, I could see Dorf in this role, no problem.
• 30:12
  Um, Scheffer himself though, I mean, he was in a few early, like late eighties
• 30:18
  movies, early nineties movies, and then he fell off, which is fine, but
• 30:22
  they should have made this a trilogy.
• 30:23
  Barker maybe couldn't get the funding for it.
• 30:26
  Maybe he just didn't like that the studio butchered it the first time around
• 30:29
  and he, and he allowed that to happen.
• 30:31
  I don't know.
• 30:32
  But they let it die after the first movie
• 30:34
  Ryan: that.
• 30:35
  Um, he kind of had a fight with the studio about how it came
• 30:38
  about and how it was produced.
• 30:40
  Advertised, as well as,
• 30:42
  Kearns: advertised, as well as, um.
• 30:44
  Ryan: how it was filmed and edited.
• 30:45
  It
• 30:46
  Kearns: It was filmed and edited.
• 30:47
  Ryan: that you
• 30:47
  Kearns: It was supposed to be a trilogy that you were saying.
• 30:49
  So they canned it from that,
• 30:51
  Ryan: they're
• 30:51
  Kearns: and then
• 30:52
  Ryan: it now with
• 30:52
  Kearns: they're trying to revive it now with a TV series,
• 30:55
  Ryan: Clive Barker
• 30:56
  Kearns: I think by Barker.
• 30:58
  And the, uh, production company,
• 31:00
  Ryan: Morgan Creek Productions,
• 31:02
  Kearns: Morgan Creek Productions,
• 31:04
  Ryan: they're
• 31:04
  Kearns: uh, made amends.
• 31:05
  Ryan: series,
• 31:06
  Kearns: to come out with a TV series, but
• 31:08
  Ryan: They
• 31:08
  Kearns: still up in the air.
• 31:09
  Ryan: writing
• 31:10
  Kearns: I have a guy from sci-fi writing it, and I'm already like, yeah.
• 31:14
  'cause they're known for their great writers.
• 31:16
  The sci-fi channel.
• 31:19
  They are Sharknado eight.
• 31:22
  The 80th.
• 31:25
  Ryan: What
• 31:26
  Kearns: right.
• 31:26
  Uh, let's do,
• 31:27
  Ryan: it, I was gonna say, it could have worked.
• 31:29
  Kearns: I was gonna say it could have worked.
• 31:31
  Ryan: in
• 31:31
  Kearns: I feel like nine three in itself too is a two.
• 31:34
  The director's pilot.
• 31:35
  Ryan: can lead to a
• 31:36
  Kearns: Yeah, a hundred percent could have been six.
• 31:38
  Six hours of content easily
• 31:40
  Ryan: Yes.
• 31:41
  Kearns: those movies.
• 31:41
  For three movies.
• 31:43
  Um, and like I said, the untapped potentials in the different night.
• 31:46
  Breeded characters that are awesome.
• 31:48
  Like, let's have some fun.
• 31:51
  I want you to describe one of your favorite night breed characters
• 31:53
  without using their real name.
• 31:55
  And I'm gonna go first.
• 31:56
  Forehead tumor.
• 31:57
  Big guy.
• 31:59
  You know who I'm talking about.
• 32:01
  You know who I'm talking about?
• 32:04
  Yeah.
• 32:05
  Ryan: Crescent Moon guy.
• 32:06
  Kearns: Right.
• 32:06
  Okay.
• 32:08
  Crescent?
• 32:08
  No, he's forehead tumor.
• 32:09
  Big guy.
• 32:12
  Ryan: Alright.
• 32:13
  Kearns: John.
• 32:13
  Which one of yours?
• 32:14
  Jon: Sexy quill lady.
• 32:16
  Kearns: Sexy.
• 32:16
  Cool lady.
• 32:17
  He is too.
• 32:18
  Ryan: that was
• 32:19
  Kearns: You know, you would go in, you, you know it would hurt, but you would
• 32:22
  Jon: Oh, oh yeah.
• 32:24
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 32:25
  Jon: Yeah.
• 32:26
  Ryan: Have
• 32:27
  Jon: Smash.
• 32:27
  Ryan: have you
• 32:28
  Kearns: Have you just been print?
• 32:32
  No, but you know who has Steven Dorf?
• 32:36
  Yeah.
• 32:38
  Yeah.
• 32:38
  We're going back to that.
• 32:42
  Ryan: Is there a red syringe, a yellow
• 32:44
  Kearns: These aren't even Weinstein adjacent films.
• 32:46
  That's my favorite part.
• 32:47
  Weinstein has nothing to do with any of this.
• 32:49
  Jon: Nothing,
• 32:50
  Kearns: Nothing.
• 32:51
  Not even the same studio.
• 32:52
  Ryan: wasn't even in the vibe.
• 32:54
  He was trying to make it still
• 32:55
  Kearns: was trying.
• 32:56
  Ryan: time.
• 32:56
  So
• 32:57
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 32:57
  This is before his like fingers refused together by lard.
• 33:01
  This is, he was a young man.
• 33:04
  Ryan: it is a young, young man
• 33:05
  Kearns: All right, Ryan,
• 33:08
  Ryan: I would have to go with,
• 33:09
  Kearns: who's your favorite night breed character?
• 33:10
  Ryan: the one who goes through smoke,
• 33:13
  Kearns: Oh, that's another good choice.
• 33:16
  Jon: Yep.
• 33:17
  Ryan: good old rose.
• 33:18
  Kearns: Too easy though.
• 33:20
  No, that's why, that just proves my point and I'm so happy you said that.
• 33:23
  Thank you.
• 33:24
  They could have done side stories, they could have done graphic
• 33:27
  novels like this, which went in the direction of each one of these Marvel
• 33:32
  Universe style, DC Universe style.
• 33:34
  Ryan: have
• 33:35
  Kearns: They
• 33:35
  Ryan: and.
• 33:36
  Kearns: comic
• 33:37
  Ryan: Uh, stories out there from
• 33:38
  Kearns: stories out there from
• 33:40
  Ryan: stories, but they have
• 33:42
  Kearns: Oh, fan made.
• 33:43
  But they have actual,
• 33:43
  Ryan: actual like
• 33:44
  Kearns: have fan made and actual, like
• 33:47
  Jon: Oh,
• 33:48
  Kearns: the actual ones more.
• 33:49
  Oh, I hope it's, I hope it's Dark horse.
• 33:52
  No, it's not.
• 33:53
  Jon: Oh, it's de If it's on Reddit it,
• 33:56
  Kearns: It's on Reddit.
• 33:57
  Jon: definitely written erotic, night breed
• 33:59
  Kearns: Tic.
• 34:01
  Well, that I don't disagree with, but that doesn't have anything
• 34:03
  to do with the Reddit part.
• 34:06
  As a, as a frequent redditer, I must say that I object.
• 34:10
  I think that that might be the case, my friend.
• 34:12
  Ryan: NSFW
• 34:13
  Kearns: There's.
• 34:14
  Ryan: safe for work.
• 34:17
  Kearns: No,
• 34:18
  Ryan: it.
• 34:19
  Kearns: no, TDLR.
• 34:21
  But I will say this, I'm glad that people made it.
• 34:25
  I'm a huge fan of the SP Secure Contain Protect.
• 34:28
  If you guys aren't familiar with that, it's completely fan made, around the
• 34:32
  same concept, which is a organization much like the c, like the men in black
• 34:36
  would be, but scaled up for, for all sorts of threats to humanity from
• 34:43
  different dimensions, outer space, terrestrial on earth, what have you.
• 34:47
  And they have to contain them, destroy them if they can, but contain them
• 34:50
  if they can't, and protect humanity.
• 34:52
  And people create their own.
• 34:53
  It's all fan made Wiki.
• 34:55
  And the favorites of those have gone on to become animated
• 34:58
  YouTube shorts and everything.
• 35:00
  Like if you just look up SCP 0 9 6, you're gonna be, there's endless hours
• 35:05
  of entertainment on just that one.
• 35:07
  There's a million.
• 35:08
  So that concept that people did, fan made for this just makes, just
• 35:15
  makes sense to me because it's a cool concept and it's an unfinished story.
• 35:19
  They didn't finish it and that sucks.
• 35:20
  Well, I guess Barker did, but
• 35:22
  Ryan: No.
• 35:22
  Kearns: they didn't finish it.
• 35:24
  Ryan: Uh,
• 35:24
  Kearns: No.
• 35:24
  Oh, he never did actually finish this.
• 35:26
  Ryan: spoiler, spoiler.
• 35:28
  I don't know
• 35:28
  Kearns: Spoiler.
• 35:28
  Ryan: is.
• 35:29
  Uh,
• 35:30
  Kearns: Spoiler.
• 35:31
  Ryan: Um, book ends the same way as the director's cut.
• 35:36
  So he was,
• 35:37
  Kearns: All right.
• 35:38
  Ryan: I
• 35:38
  Kearns: So.
• 35:38
  Ryan: might be writing a sequel.
• 35:40
  There's rumors.
• 35:42
  It's a George or Martin situation.
• 35:44
  I'm just producing.
• 35:46
  Hell raise films for the rest of my life while still writing the sequel to a ball.
• 35:52
  Gonna call it Porcupine.
• 35:54
  Kearns: checks.
• 35:55
  I can't write too quickly because my, my writing hand is my check cashing
• 35:59
  hand, so I must continue to cash these.
• 36:01
  Hell raise checks.
• 36:03
  Ryan: He's gonna
• 36:03
  Kearns: Write with my other hand.
• 36:04
  Ryan: listen to this and, or watch this and send us an email and be like, you
• 36:08
  Kearns: I mean,
• 36:09
  Ryan: be like that.
• 36:09
  Do
• 36:10
  Kearns: we're gonna get our asses beat by Harvey.
• 36:13
  Yeah, it'll be hard.
• 36:14
  Harvey's gonna come outta prison and Dittle one of us, and Clive Barker's
• 36:17
  gonna come and give one of us a black eye
• 36:19
  Ryan: no, I'm, I'm going
• 36:21
  Kearns: and the.
• 36:21
  Ryan: the Harvey from Entourage.
• 36:23
  What do you mean?
• 36:26
  Kearns: You got that scene.
• 36:27
  Jon: Bring
• 36:28
  Kearns: one of the most memorable.
• 36:29
  I was gonna say, yeah, of course you say bring it Clive.
• 36:32
  That would be good for you actually.
• 36:34
  But you forget about Harvey's line earlier.
• 36:36
  When he sees him in the bathroom, he sees him in the bathroom first.
• 36:40
  He's washing his hands and he says there's nothing like a good shit.
• 36:44
  It's one of the most iconic lines in the freaking show and it's very Weinstein.
• 36:50
  Ryan: with him.
• 36:50
  What do you mean you got a
• 36:51
  Kearns: I lunch with them,
• 36:52
  Ryan: it's, it's between breakfast and lunch.
• 36:54
  You got a brunch.
• 36:54
  You didn't
• 36:55
  Kearns: breakfast, lunch, you got a brunch, you didn't get shit.
• 36:59
  It's freaking show.
• 37:00
  But yeah, man, there's just, uh, they should have done more with it.
• 37:04
  There's so much cash that they could have made, if you want to think of it that way.
• 37:08
  They could have made a ton of money, but more so they could have just spun out.
• 37:11
  Much better story.
• 37:14
  I'm almost glad the fan base has the reins now.
• 37:18
  Ryan: I
• 37:18
  Jon: Yeah.
• 37:19
  Ryan: I think it can go both ways in this situation.
• 37:21
  I think it's definitely like there's serious and
• 37:25
  Kearns: Serious and there is sexual serious.
• 37:31
  I'm not really sure where you're going with this, Ryan.
• 37:33
  Ryan: so going
• 37:34
  Kearns: No,
• 37:35
  Ryan: there's like a serious to
• 37:36
  Kearns: going with like, there's like a series
• 37:37
  Ryan: not
• 37:37
  Kearns: but there's like that n see for work situation.
• 37:41
  Ryan: can't be
• 37:41
  Kearns: Oh no, I'm not going there.
• 37:42
  People are gonna be perverts with anything I'm talking about.
• 37:45
  Just continuing on with the story as far as like making content.
• 37:50
  You foul creature,
• 37:52
  Jon: No,
• 37:53
  Kearns: you said that the creepiest way possible
• 37:55
  Jon: tell me more about the NSFW versions.
• 38:00
  Kearns: we're gonna, we're gonna do like a after these or like we'll be
• 38:03
  right back kind of thing and it's just gonna be you two on screen.
• 38:07
  Like, well, Martin left, he's done with this, but Quill
• 38:13
  creature aside and all that.
• 38:16
  Um, yeah.
• 38:18
  It's just for those of you who are in the know, great.
• 38:20
  If you're not in the know, watch the movie.
• 38:22
  Watch the original one too.
• 38:23
  It's not bad.
• 38:24
  Watch the 102 minute long version.
• 38:26
  Um, words hard for me.
• 38:29
  102 minute long version, the original, and start there and see what we were
• 38:34
  talking about, about the slasher part.
• 38:36
  But you also get a great idea about what they're doing in Midian, and, and now I'm
• 38:40
  saying it like it's Midian and, um, the night breed, the, in that version as well.
• 38:45
  And you're gonna see, like, you wanna learn more about these different
• 38:47
  characters, where they came from, what made their skills, their skills.
• 38:52
  And you get a little taste of that in the cabal version.
• 38:55
  There is way more about the night breed in that version, but it's still not enough.
• 39:01
  Ryan: of a mythology and there's.
• 39:04
  Kearns: So you could read too, if you're a loser.
• 39:06
  Ryan: That's no
• 39:08
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 39:09
  Ryan: read,
• 39:11
  Kearns: that's true.
• 39:12
  Ryan: right?
• 39:13
  Kearns: I feel better about myself now.
• 39:14
  Ryan: Reading is for everyone.
• 39:17
  All right.
• 39:18
  Kearns: What are you reading right now?
• 39:19
  Ryan: Kujo,
• 39:19
  Kearns: know, you, I'm glad you picked up that book.
• 39:21
  He didn't, he doesn't have a lot of money, so you're really helping him out with it.
• 39:24
  Ryan: I listen.
• 39:26
  Jon: It's good.
• 39:26
  It's good that you're uplifting the unknown authors of the
• 39:29
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 39:30
  Ryan: I'm trying.
• 39:31
  Stephen King
• 39:32
  Kearns: I'm trying.
• 39:32
  Stephen King is very un unknown.
• 39:34
  You know what though?
• 39:34
  If, if you're reading a king book and it's Cujo and anybody gives
• 39:37
  you crap, kick him in the junk.
• 39:38
  Cujo is a good, it's a, that's a niche read.
• 39:41
  Even for King.
• 39:42
  Ryan: the only horror book I feel I've read
• 39:44
  Kearns: The Only
• 39:44
  Ryan: was Salem's Lot
• 39:45
  Kearns: Him.
• 39:46
  Ryan: Cemetery was definitely a family drama.
• 39:48
  And then Cujo is definitely another family drama.
• 39:51
  All right?
• 39:52
  Kearns: It's that tar road.
• 39:53
  Yeah, that's, you're not too far off.
• 39:55
  It's kind of like stamp stamp, um, with some animal cruelty thrown in.
• 39:59
  Wait a second.
• 40:00
  It's in both.
• 40:01
  But yeah, man.
• 40:03
  Um, not to get into a, if, if we tangent into a king, it's gonna be a
• 40:06
  long night, so we're not gonna do that.
• 40:08
  Ryan: Oh,
• 40:09
  Kearns: Barker's Barker's got tons of his own novels.
• 40:12
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 40:12
  Kearns: Um, we talked about Mr. Be Gone Hellbound heart.
• 40:16
  Mr. Begon, um, is the one that I liked.
• 40:19
  That's weird.
• 40:19
  It's written entirely in the second person to the reader by a demon
• 40:23
  that's trapped inside of the book,
• 40:25
  Ryan: cool.
• 40:25
  Kearns: it's telling you how it got trapped in the book and it's trying to get
• 40:28
  you to trick you into letting it escape.
• 40:30
  I feel like he could have been better, but the concept's so cool.
• 40:33
  It's worth a read.
• 40:35
  Like if nothing, if Clyde Barker had never done anything else,
• 40:38
  that's pretty, that's a pretty good legacy in and of itself right there.
• 40:42
  Um, Hellbound Heart, what's that like?
• 40:44
  Ryan: Bound Heart.
• 40:44
  It's
• 40:45
  Kearns: Hellbound Heart?
• 40:46
  It's very similar to I, it's hell,
• 40:48
  Ryan: it's different
• 40:49
  Kearns: but it's
• 40:49
  Ryan: the idea
• 40:50
  Kearns: because of the idea of like
• 40:52
  Ryan: there's really no
• 40:53
  Kearns: thin heads.
• 40:54
  There's really no names.
• 40:55
  They're just fic.
• 40:56
  Ryan: dimension.
• 40:56
  And it's more of
• 40:57
  Kearns: I like the centa bytes.
• 40:58
  You dip 'em in the cent sauce and you just eat it up.
• 41:00
  Ryan: uh.
• 41:01
  Kearns: yummy.
• 41:01
  Jon: Oh yeah.
• 41:02
  And
• 41:02
  Ryan: always warm,
• 41:04
  Jon: that, that
• 41:05
  Kearns: It sounds like it's always warm.
• 41:07
  What?
• 41:08
  Why are you so in like, you're on that train tonight, man.
• 41:12
  You're killing me.
• 41:13
  I was ready to make some fricking General Mills jokes and everything
• 41:17
  and it just got so filthy.
• 41:18
  I don't wanna go near it anymore.
• 41:19
  Jon: I mean, you just di dip those eno bytes into that white
• 41:24
  creamy sauce and just lick it up.
• 41:29
  Kearns: After these messages,
• 41:31
  Ryan: but I feel like the
• 41:32
  Kearns: be right back.
• 41:33
  Ryan: bytes in the
• 41:34
  Kearns: Eno bytes
• 41:35
  Ryan: more
• 41:35
  Kearns: in the book are
• 41:36
  Ryan: the remake,
• 41:37
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 41:37
  Ryan: captures the book more because,
• 41:40
  Kearns: because,
• 41:41
  Ryan: technically,
• 41:42
  Kearns: pinhead technically, or
• 41:43
  Ryan: still
• 41:44
  Kearns: think pinhead,
• 41:45
  Ryan: it's been a minute since I read it.
• 41:46
  Um,
• 41:48
  Kearns: um,
• 41:49
  Ryan: a child's voice
• 41:50
  Kearns: a child's voice
• 41:52
  Ryan: and
• 41:52
  Kearns: and it's a woman
• 41:53
  Ryan: the
• 41:53
  Kearns: and that's definitely what's in the reading.
• 41:55
  Yeah.
• 41:56
  Ryan: The only thing that's close
• 41:57
  Kearns: The only thing that's close
• 41:58
  Ryan: Barker
• 41:59
  Kearns: to what pipe partner put on screen is basically the chatter and butterball.
• 42:08
  Oh.
• 42:08
  Ryan: first introduced in berserk,
• 42:14
  and my heart will go on.
• 42:17
  Um,
• 42:18
  Kearns: Just going to bed guys.
• 42:20
  Just going to
• 42:21
  Ryan: Gina's already in bed.
• 42:22
  Kearns: bed's already in bed?
• 42:24
  Yeah,
• 42:24
  Ryan: she's gonna probably watch this, but I
• 42:26
  Kearns: probably watch.
• 42:27
  Ryan: I'm hoping she's asleep so I can
• 42:29
  Kearns: I'm hoping she sleeps.
• 42:30
  Ryan: Like I,
• 42:31
  Kearns: Oh, sweet.
• 42:32
  Ryan: watch the
• 42:32
  Kearns: Good for you.
• 42:34
  Ryan: and I have to catch up on a couple ever episodes of severance.
• 42:38
  This past weekend was
• 42:39
  Kearns: I thought that we saved the conversations about drugging
• 42:43
  our wives for after the podcast.
• 42:45
  Ryan: you weren't supposed to talk to,
• 42:47
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 42:47
  Jon: have to.
• 42:50
  Ryan: He's already
• 42:51
  Kearns: Okay.
• 42:51
  Well, when I was dying downstairs, and I've been bitching about this
• 42:54
  for two days, so I don't care if she hears it when I was dying downstairs,
• 42:58
  like with my throat swollen shut.
• 43:01
  No, nobody but one of the cats and my youngest child came in once.
• 43:04
  He was like, what are you doing in here, daddy?
• 43:06
  I was like, and then he ran away.
• 43:09
  'cause he was, he was legitimately frightened.
• 43:11
  And when the cat came over and was like, I smell death on you.
• 43:13
  And then it went away and that was it.
• 43:16
  That was just on my own.
• 43:18
  He was, as long as the lights are on, nobody cares.
• 43:21
  Nobody cares.
• 43:22
  The electricity went out.
• 43:23
  They would've come downstairs to see what's wrong
• 43:24
  Ryan: throwing cans of soup down there, just rolling
• 43:27
  Kearns: down there.
• 43:28
  Just down
• 43:29
  Ryan: I warm this
• 43:29
  Kearns: the, yeah.
• 43:30
  How do I,
• 43:30
  Ryan: No.
• 43:31
  Kearns: Nope.
• 43:32
  This starvation.
• 43:33
  Starvation and sadness and pain.
• 43:36
  I had to drive myself to urgent care
• 43:41
  anyway.
• 43:42
  Nobody cares.
• 43:43
  Um, so before my rude wife interrupted us by going to sleep, you were in the
• 43:49
  process of telling us something about cinnamon bun Bites, no CIN bytes.
• 43:55
  I believe.
• 43:56
  Ryan: Ah, I was just basically saying that
• 43:57
  Kearns: I would say that they're,
• 43:59
  Ryan: in a way, they're more mysterious
• 44:01
  Kearns: a way, they're more mysterious while in the movie,
• 44:03
  they're right in front of you for the viewer because it gives you the
• 44:06
  Ryan: you the
• 44:06
  Kearns: idea, even
• 44:07
  Ryan: The
• 44:07
  Kearns: back story.
• 44:08
  Ryan: is just
• 44:09
  Kearns: first one is just like
• 44:12
  Ryan: You don't
• 44:12
  Kearns: the mystery.
• 44:13
  Ryan: they
• 44:13
  Kearns: You don't know what they are, they're just
• 44:15
  Ryan: inter
• 44:16
  Kearns: Trump is inter dimension, which is now, yeah.
• 44:19
  Um,
• 44:19
  Ryan: opening scene, which
• 44:20
  Kearns: Frank's opening scene, which is in the first film
• 44:24
  Ryan: compared to the book, is
• 44:25
  Kearns: compared to the exactly the same.
• 44:27
  Okay.
• 44:27
  Which,
• 44:28
  Ryan: I mean, it helps that Clyde Barker
• 44:29
  Kearns: I mean it helps that
• 44:30
  Ryan: too,
• 44:31
  Kearns: directed the film to, but
• 44:33
  Ryan: him
• 44:33
  Kearns: to see him write it and then.
• 44:36
  Ryan: pretty cool,
• 44:36
  Kearns: Film is pretty cool, especially for 1987.
• 44:40
  Yeah, that is cool.
• 44:42
  All right, um, let's jump back over from c Clive Barker's
• 44:47
  books that we liked into Nire.
• 44:48
  John, is there anything else about the films that you wanna bring
• 44:51
  up from your handy dandy notes?
• 44:54
  Jon: Well, one thing I
• 44:56
  Kearns: One thing
• 44:57
  Jon: think we maybe talked
• 44:58
  Kearns: we talked about,
• 44:59
  Jon: part that's not gonna make it onto the, the show, but, um,
• 45:03
  Kearns: um, just
• 45:04
  Jon: Decker
• 45:05
  Kearns: Decker character played by, I thought that was gonna make it, is it
• 45:09
  when we talked about him getting Dickered?
• 45:11
  Is that why we can't put it on?
• 45:12
  Jon: I don't know.
• 45:13
  I thought, I don't remember when we
• 45:15
  Kearns: Remember.
• 45:15
  Jon: about it.
• 45:15
  Think it might have been in the, be the part that we're we lost at the beginning.
• 45:19
  Ryan: We lost it and we, I think we were, we made a, a comment about it
• 45:24
  and then we were like, we're gonna
• 45:25
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 45:26
  Ryan: it, and then it got cut.
• 45:27
  Kearns: We might be able to import it and if we import it, make sure it's 46 minutes
• 45:31
  in, so we should pop it right here.
• 45:33
  Jon: Well, now we've got it in,
• 45:35
  Kearns: Yeah, there you go.
• 45:35
  So if, if it worked out everybody.
• 45:37
  Ryan: It'll be a
• 45:38
  Kearns: There you go.
• 45:40
  Yeah.
• 45:41
  Oh, he did.
• 45:42
  He said the thing that we talk about.
• 45:45
  Okay.
• 45:45
  Jon: just a, just a couple
• 45:46
  Kearns: Just a couple of things
• 45:47
  Jon: jumped out to me.
• 45:48
  Kearns: that out to me, like
• 45:49
  Jon: like an
• 45:50
  Kearns: is like an
• 45:50
  Jon: sort of
• 45:51
  Kearns: sort of thing.
• 45:52
  Yeah.
• 45:52
  But
• 45:53
  Jon: has anyone
• 45:53
  Kearns: has anyone ever really, truly the question, what was your
• 45:57
  relationship with the deceased?
• 46:00
  Jon: We were lovers.
• 46:02
  anybody
• 46:02
  Kearns: Anybody ever really answer questions like that?
• 46:05
  Not anymore, but like in the fifties or sixties when you could have a family
• 46:08
  three blocks away and nobody would notice.
• 46:11
  Yeah.
• 46:11
  That was like, my mistress lives over there.
• 46:13
  My wife and children live over here.
• 46:16
  And that's the lady I bang on the side.
• 46:18
  Like there was like, there's like all three
• 46:21
  Jon: and then the
• 46:21
  Kearns: and.
• 46:22
  Jon: thing that really me at the, the
• 46:25
  Kearns: I don't know how they did it.
• 46:26
  Jon: as the cops have descended on Midian and they're wrecking,
• 46:30
  Kearns: yeah, that's true.
• 46:33
  Jon: You have berserkers
• 46:34
  Kearns: Bers, and you held them.
• 46:36
  Jon: like you didn't
• 46:37
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 46:37
  Jon: berserkers earlier.
• 46:39
  Ryan: control him.
• 46:40
  Kearns: that that is the dumbest thing.
• 46:41
  Yeah.
• 46:42
  That's the dumbest thing though.
• 46:43
  Jon: mean, at that point, who cares if you can control 'em or not?
• 46:45
  You're dying?
• 46:47
  Kearns: I'm glad that you brought that up.
• 46:48
  'cause if we had ended this episode without talking about the ending, first
• 46:51
  of all, it, whenever they do these fantasy things and stuff, the metaphor usually
• 46:55
  crumbles when they bring automatic weapons and shotguns and flashlights down into the
• 46:59
  cave and just start blasting the creature.
• 47:02
  And in this case, creatures that we've all grown to love in Meridian.
• 47:06
  So yeah, they, the night breed are getting slaughtered, but they do
• 47:09
  have a Trump card that John's talking about, which are these insane versions
• 47:14
  of themselves called Berserkers.
• 47:15
  Now what is a berserker?
• 47:17
  And don't sing the song.
• 47:18
  I know you want to.
• 47:20
  Jon: Would you like some making
• 47:24
  Kearns: What makes you a Berserker night breed?
• 47:27
  That hurts so much to do, by the way,
• 47:28
  Jon: a night breed?
• 47:30
  Kearns: RS.
• 47:30
  Jon: I
• 47:31
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 47:32
  Jon: basically, you know, the mutated.
• 47:35
  Night breed monster, but ultra violent, uncontrollable, and massive.
• 47:40
  Kearns: And did they ever explain in the movie why some of them turn out that way?
• 47:45
  Ryan: No,
• 47:45
  Jon: I
• 47:45
  Kearns: I.
• 47:46
  Jon: they did.
• 47:47
  Ryan: I,
• 47:47
  Kearns: No, just like you, anybody rolls the dice and you
• 47:50
  could be a Berserker night breed.
• 47:52
  Ryan: be in the
• 47:53
  Kearns: That'd be pretty cool.
• 47:53
  Ryan: be, to be funny, it's just true.
• 47:57
  Kearns: Funny.
• 47:57
  It's just true.
• 47:58
  I think it was gonna be the,
• 47:59
  Ryan: it.
• 47:59
  I mean,
• 48:00
  Kearns: they were gonna build it.
• 48:01
  I mean, because it's so mysterious.
• 48:03
  Like, we don't talk about the berserkers, we don't let 'em go
• 48:06
  Ryan: they're
• 48:06
  Kearns: and
• 48:07
  Ryan: and it's
• 48:07
  Kearns: they're uncontrollable and it's like, alright,
• 48:10
  Ryan: Give it, give it to me.
• 48:12
  Kearns: so instead of running behind where they are and having like, had a plan way
• 48:16
  ahead of time because they are in hiding.
• 48:18
  So like, okay, so if the, if the cops ever do show up, we just hide behind here.
• 48:23
  We open this gate, we'd swing shut in front of us and the berserkers then
• 48:27
  run this way and eat anything that's in front like a, it could, a third
• 48:30
  grader could come up with that plan.
• 48:32
  Jon: Yeah.
• 48:33
  Kearns: Kevin from home alone would've done a better job than they did
• 48:37
  with the cops storm in this place.
• 48:39
  Ryan: Tommy from
• 48:40
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 48:41
  Ryan: two guys, uh, fantasm three.
• 48:43
  I'm sorry,
• 48:45
  Kearns: That's a good reference though, given there's two
• 48:47
  episodes ago, three episodes ago.
• 48:50
  Yeah, that's true.
• 48:52
  So, yeah, no, John brought up a good point there.
• 48:56
  Um, so they, they didn't, they didn't utilize the berserkers, they flirt with
• 49:01
  the idea that they have this sort of seat, seemingly ultimate weapon that they can't
• 49:06
  control and they never really utilize it.
• 49:08
  They open it, they do let 'em out,
• 49:10
  Jon: Yeah.
• 49:11
  Kearns: but it's too late to kind of save half of them or more.
• 49:14
  Ryan: don't even, they save like a
• 49:16
  Kearns: They don't even a quarter.
• 49:17
  Ryan: A
• 49:18
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 49:18
  Ryan: in
• 49:18
  Kearns: It's a, it's a genocide.
• 49:21
  A quarter's left in the barn.
• 49:22
  Yeah.
• 49:22
  It's a genocide.
• 49:23
  It is.
• 49:25
  And when you think about it like that, it's kind of not
• 49:27
  as funny or fun to talk about,
• 49:29
  Ryan: walking
• 49:30
  Kearns: like
• 49:30
  Ryan: the
• 49:31
  Kearns: walking and the bodies are everywhere.
• 49:33
  Open war zone
• 49:34
  Ryan: it's just
• 49:35
  Kearns: and
• 49:35
  Ryan: many, how many night
• 49:36
  Kearns: how many, how many night breeders saved.
• 49:38
  Ryan: much?
• 49:39
  Kearns: This much, this many, this many.
• 49:47
  It's dark.
• 49:47
  It is dark, dark fantasy.
• 49:50
  But, um, what else John is on your mind?
• 49:54
  Jon: Um, I think we
• 49:55
  Kearns: I think we pretty much
• 49:56
  Jon: what
• 49:56
  Kearns: have
• 49:57
  Jon: through
• 49:57
  Kearns: bouncing through my mind.
• 49:58
  I mean, I have,
• 49:59
  Jon: note
• 49:59
  Kearns: a note about, um,
• 50:01
  Jon: walking up
• 50:02
  Kearns: walking up to your significant other with that
• 50:04
  Jon: fricking
• 50:05
  Kearns: fricking sword
• 50:06
  Jon: through
• 50:06
  Kearns: plunge through your chest
• 50:08
  Jon: her
• 50:09
  Kearns: asking her to pull it out for you.
• 50:11
  Jon: they.
• 50:11
  Kearns: You know,
• 50:11
  Jon: I and I, I get that.
• 50:13
  It's not a sword, it's a knife.
• 50:14
  And cro, like a
• 50:15
  Kearns: like acod.
• 50:16
  Jon: knife, crocodile Dundee would approve of that knife.
• 50:19
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 50:20
  It's a mae,
• 50:20
  Ryan: that
• 50:20
  Jon: you, you have that like
• 50:22
  Kearns: it's a long knife.
• 50:23
  Jon: you.
• 50:24
  you're impelled on that, and you're
• 50:27
  Kearns: like a bayonet, your girlfriend.
• 50:29
  Jon: it out,
• 50:30
  Kearns: Now, my wife would then tell me the medical term for what it's called.
• 50:34
  When you have an item stabbed through you and it's keeping you alive.
• 50:38
  Your wife might do the same, John, and it's keeping you alive because you're not
• 50:41
  bleeding out when it isn't pulled out yet.
• 50:43
  But the second you pull it out, that effect goes away and then you bleed out.
• 50:47
  So she would say that, and then I would die in front of her.
• 50:50
  Ryan: dead.
• 50:51
  Jon: I think my, I, I think my
• 50:53
  Kearns: I think my wife would tell me exactly
• 50:55
  Jon: was
• 50:56
  Kearns: what was wrong with me, and I'd say
• 50:58
  Jon: take care of it
• 50:58
  Kearns: take care of it yourself.
• 51:00
  Wow.
• 51:00
  Jon: You're a
• 51:01
  Kearns: But Kim did
• 51:02
  Jon: it.
• 51:02
  Kearns: do it.
• 51:03
  My wife did lift a tree, a sizable tree, about a quarter of an inch, which,
• 51:09
  which is like the equivalent of a mother lifting a car off of a child if you like,
• 51:14
  ratio the love, you know what I mean?
• 51:16
  So it worked out and that quarter of an inch was just enough for me to get my
• 51:21
  broken ribs out from under that tree.
• 51:23
  So there you go.
• 51:24
  So I think she would, she.
• 51:25
  Jon: knock the tree on top of me.
• 51:29
  Kearns: But if she knew that pulling, if she did not know that pulling
• 51:31
  the knife out of me would kill me, she would totally rip it outta me.
• 51:35
  She's, she's here to play.
• 51:38
  She's not, she's not messing around.
• 51:40
  And then she would watch me bleed out and be like, oh, we made, we made mistakes.
• 51:44
  And that'd be the end
• 51:45
  Jon: Mistakes were made.
• 51:46
  Kearns: mistakes were made.
• 51:47
  Where's the life insurance policy before you black out?
• 51:49
  Where is it?
• 51:51
  Ryan: Go
• 51:51
  Kearns: But
• 51:51
  Ryan: Kinison mode on you.
• 51:52
  Kearns: um,
• 51:53
  Ryan: that?
• 51:53
  Jon: Jokes
• 51:54
  Kearns: yo,
• 51:54
  Jon: There isn't one.
• 51:56
  Kearns: but, uh, that's night breed everybody.
• 51:58
  It's a great movie.
• 51:59
  You have to watch it.
• 52:00
  Um, I think we're gonna roll it 53 minutes in plus possibly three and
• 52:04
  a half minutes of content that got pulled from the beginning earlier.
• 52:08
  I think it's time to roll into our top fives.
• 52:11
  Ryan: it is.
• 52:11
  And I am
• 52:12
  Kearns: Yes.
• 52:12
  It's, and it's, it, it's, it's a good idea for us to, to use the time wisely.
• 52:18
  All right.
• 52:18
  All right.
• 52:20
  Ryan: we got
• 52:20
  Kearns: These, these top fives are getting rid god damn ridiculous.
• 52:24
  Ryan: Well, gonna love my top five.
• 52:26
  It's
• 52:26
  Kearns: Love my top five
• 52:28
  Ryan: And that's,
• 52:29
  Kearns: accused.
• 52:29
  Oh, nice.
• 52:30
  And that's also,
• 52:31
  Ryan: the
• 52:31
  Kearns: it's also
• 52:31
  Ryan: Nielsen
• 52:32
  Kearns: to
• 52:33
  Ryan: wrongfully Accused, which
• 52:34
  Kearns: wrongfully accused, which is a great comedy.
• 52:37
  Ryan: great film, the Fugitive.
• 52:38
  Kearns: great film.
• 52:39
  The Fugitive.
• 52:39
  Ryan: I digress.
• 52:41
  Um, so my top five is wrongfully
• 52:43
  Kearns: regress.
• 52:44
  That was great.
• 52:44
  Ryan: regress.
• 52:45
  I'm sorry, I regress.
• 52:46
  We're leaving that in.
• 52:47
  Kearns: No, I meant like regress.
• 52:49
  Talk more about wrongfully Accused.
• 52:50
  I don't actually do, 'cause it's an amazing movie.
• 52:52
  If you haven't seen it, guys, it's one of, it's a hidden gem with Leslie Nielsen.
• 52:57
  It really is.
• 52:57
  Ryan: a one
• 52:58
  Kearns: Good movie.
• 52:58
  Ryan: armed, one-legged man, nose, one eye
• 53:05
  goes out through the
• 53:06
  Kearns: My uncle, Kevin's one of my favorite humans ever.
• 53:08
  And he, he would laugh so hard at the stupidest shit from Mel Brooks movies
• 53:12
  and Liam, uh, I must say Liam Neeson movies and Leslie Nielsen movies.
• 53:17
  And that line, he was about on the ground.
• 53:20
  He was about on the ground
• 53:21
  Ryan: know
• 53:22
  Kearns: that one.
• 53:22
  The one armed, one-eyed, one nose, one ear.
• 53:25
  Ryan: I say
• 53:26
  Kearns: Um,
• 53:26
  Ryan: made that face 'cause he is
• 53:27
  Kearns: John that face,
• 53:28
  Ryan: me
• 53:29
  Kearns: not,
• 53:29
  Ryan: Liam Neeson and Naked Gun and they're gonna kill that franchise.
• 53:36
  Kearns: yeah, we're not gonna talk about that.
• 53:38
  All right, you're top five.
• 53:39
  Ryan: So top five for
• 53:41
  Kearns: That's for next episode.
• 53:43
  Ryan: Um, so the first one, number
• 53:45
  Kearns: So the first one, number five came out in June, 1995.
• 53:50
  Ryan: Armand Deante, Rob Schneider,
• 53:52
  Kearns: Deante, Rob Schneider,
• 53:54
  Ryan: Max Vons.
• 53:54
  Kearns: Lane, and Max,
• 53:56
  Ryan: It's,
• 53:56
  Kearns: what a piece of ass that Rob Schneider is too.
• 53:59
  Ryan: it's young, Rob
• 54:00
  Kearns: You thought I was gonna say Diane Lane thought I was gonna
• 54:02
  say Diane Lane, but I didn't.
• 54:03
  Ryan: he is the law because it's judge dread
• 54:06
  Kearns: Which is interesting because this is a horror podcast.
• 54:08
  Ryan: so I was talking to
• 54:10
  Kearns: It, so I was talking to
• 54:11
  Ryan: and
• 54:12
  Kearns: about this too, and uh, you know, I said I was gonna flip it.
• 54:15
  Ryan: sci-fi
• 54:16
  Kearns: like,
• 54:17
  Ryan: action and,
• 54:19
  Kearns: throw some romcoms in there.
• 54:20
  Let's just have some fun with it.
• 54:21
  You know,
• 54:22
  Jon: It's culty.
• 54:23
  Kearns: culty.
• 54:24
  Jon: I think culty counts.
• 54:25
  Ryan: yeah.
• 54:26
  Kearns: It's so culty.
• 54:27
  Jon: culty.
• 54:28
  Kearns: me?
• 54:28
  Judge Dread has such a cult following.
• 54:30
  Ryan: similar,
• 54:31
  Kearns: I'm just breaking your chops man.
• 54:33
  Ryan: it's similar to
• 54:34
  Kearns: No, I know.
• 54:34
  Ryan: Boone is wrongfully accused and Judge Dre is
• 54:37
  wrongfully accused because his
• 54:39
  Kearns: Accused because his
• 54:41
  Ryan: Judge Rico, like,
• 54:42
  Kearns: ex Judge
• 54:42
  Ryan: of
• 54:43
  Kearns: Rico, like, kind of franks him for murdering Max vs.
• 54:46
  Doubt.
• 54:46
  Er.
• 54:47
  Alert.
• 54:48
  Spoiler.
• 54:48
  Alert.
• 54:48
  Ryan: but.
• 54:49
  Jon: to say spoiler alert before you spoil it.
• 54:52
  Ryan: Well, it happened after they have to, it came out in 1995 pe
• 54:59
  Kearns: Daylight's wasting.
• 54:59
  What's going on?
• 55:00
  Ryan: so number four, it's
• 55:02
  Kearns: Number four?
• 55:03
  Ryan: October, 1993.
• 55:05
  Jon: Um,
• 55:06
  Ryan: Just Stallone.
• 55:06
  Oh, sorry, John.
• 55:09
  Jon: I was just gonna say
• 55:10
  Kearns: I was just gonna say number four.
• 55:11
  Better not be, it's gonna be cliffhanger at this rate
• 55:14
  Ryan: Um, well, it's Sylvester Stallone.
• 55:17
  Wesley Snipe.
• 55:17
  Sandra Bullock.
• 55:19
  Demolition man.
• 55:21
  He's, he's wrongfully accused again in this film in the
• 55:26
  Kearns: in this
• 55:26
  Ryan: he's
• 55:26
  Kearns: in the beginning because he's fighting Simon Phoenix.
• 55:29
  Yeah.
• 55:29
  Ryan: for killing all those civilians.
• 55:31
  Kearns: all civilians
• 55:32
  Ryan: shot
• 55:33
  Kearns: That's a long shot.
• 55:34
  Demolition Man's not culty though.
• 55:36
  You just threw it in there to to Just 'cause it's another Stallone movie.
• 55:40
  Ryan: is culty.
• 55:40
  Come on John.
• 55:43
  Kearns: Oh my gosh.
• 55:44
  Jon: got, it's got some cult to it.
• 55:47
  Kearns: You know what's good about it is that my favorite part about that movie is
• 55:50
  the one thing that hasn't come true yet from Demolition Man's Dystopian Future.
• 55:54
  No, that'll happen eventually.
• 55:56
  It's the, and Rat Burgers will happen too, but it's the President Schwarzenegger
• 56:01
  hasn't happened yet, and I guarantee you, our constitution's going to dissolve
• 56:06
  down to a point where that does occur,
• 56:08
  Ryan: Well,
• 56:08
  Kearns: and I'd be happy for it.
• 56:09
  Ryan: a good segue because number three also stars.
• 56:12
  Uh, Arnold Schwarzenegger, um, Maria Conta Alonso, Yaffe Koto, Richard
• 56:18
  Dawson, and Jesse the Body Ventura.
• 56:21
  It's the
• 56:22
  Kearns: Ventura, man, he was definitely wrongfully accused in the running man,
• 56:27
  Ryan: the beginning.
• 56:28
  He's
• 56:28
  Kearns: right in the beginning
• 56:29
  Ryan: people and he,
• 56:30
  Kearns: to save those people.
• 56:32
  They got them down.
• 56:33
  Ryan: one of my favorite movies growing up as a
• 56:34
  Kearns: My favorite movies growing up as a kid, especially, uh, Richard Dawson.
• 56:38
  Mm-hmm.
• 56:39
  Ryan: host
• 56:40
  Kearns: Like incredibly well cast movie and, uh, a great adaptation
• 56:44
  of Richard Bachman's Epic novella.
• 56:49
  Hmm.
• 56:49
  Short story novella.
• 56:51
  Ryan: think it's considered a novella
• 56:52
  Kearns: I think it's now.
• 56:52
  Yeah.
• 56:53
  But really, um, if you're not familiar with Bachman, figure it out.
• 56:56
  Listeners.
• 56:57
  It's a big riddle.
• 56:58
  It was solved in like 1987.
• 57:01
  Anyway.
• 57:02
  Ryan: so,
• 57:02
  Kearns: All right.
• 57:02
  Running med's.
• 57:03
  Another good get, man, I hate you for making me like this list.
• 57:06
  Ryan: well, number two,
• 57:08
  Kearns: Oh, number two.
• 57:09
  Jon: First
• 57:09
  Kearns: If this doesn't have Jean Claude van, you're dead to me.
• 57:13
  Ryan: it's actually hard target.
• 57:14
  No,
• 57:14
  Kearns: It's actually hard target.
• 57:16
  No, what a great choice too, though of movies.
• 57:20
  Ryan: Um, number two is actually a segment,
• 57:23
  Kearns: Number two, actually a segment.
• 57:24
  Ryan: from, I'll go right into it.
• 57:26
  Sin City.
• 57:27
  So I'm a big Sin
• 57:28
  Kearns: Oh, sweet.
• 57:29
  Ryan: so the segment I'm talking about
• 57:31
  Kearns: So the segment I'm talking about is the Hard Goodbye,
• 57:34
  Ryan: uh,
• 57:34
  Kearns: to make you Rourke, uh, Rucker Howard, Elijah Wood,
• 57:38
  Ryan: Carla
• 57:38
  Kearns: Jamie King Carlos Lino.
• 57:40
  Ryan: it's about McGurrk who
• 57:41
  Kearns: Nice working
• 57:42
  Ryan: he's
• 57:43
  Kearns: and
• 57:44
  Ryan: up by the
• 57:45
  Kearns: set up by the city police,
• 57:48
  Ryan: killing
• 57:48
  Kearns: uh, for killing Goldie or actually killing Wendy.
• 57:52
  Ryan: And
• 57:53
  Kearns: Uh, a prostitute and he's kind of trying to,
• 57:55
  Ryan: who's setting him up, which
• 57:57
  Kearns: who setting him.
• 57:58
  Ryan: church and sister Goldie and Old Town, and it's, oh, it's so great.
• 58:05
  What, what happened, John?
• 58:08
  Jon: It's always the Catholic church.
• 58:11
  Kearns: Well, I mean, you're not wrong.
• 58:12
  The Golden Compass got all the heat for that.
• 58:14
  Everybody else has been saying it for years.
• 58:16
  They just veil it better.
• 58:17
  But the Golden Compass books, um, were like, or no, uh, what is it?
• 58:22
  Mortal Instruments books or whatever they're called, something like that.
• 58:26
  Were just like, no, it's the church.
• 58:29
  They just came right out and said it.
• 58:30
  That's why they got in trouble.
• 58:32
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 58:32
  Kearns: Um, one of my favorite authors, who I'm not gonna name out of insane
• 58:35
  amounts of Respect, 'cause I don't think it was done on purpose, lifted a
• 58:38
  line from one of the Sin City, snippets when, I don't know who the character
• 58:43
  in the comics is, but Clive Barker is the one, Clive Barker, uh, Clive Owens,
• 58:47
  the one who plays him in the movies.
• 58:50
  Ryan: Dwight.
• 58:52
  Dwight.
• 58:53
  Kearns: Ight.
• 58:53
  Uh, he has a line where he's describing Marv and he says he
• 58:57
  would've been right at home swinging.
• 58:59
  Yeah.
• 59:00
  He would've been right at home swinging a 50 pound mace or something
• 59:04
  like that into the face of an enemy.
• 59:06
  He just had the rotten luck of being born in the wrong century.
• 59:09
  The beginning half of that line is in one of the books behind me.
• 59:12
  It's an epic book.
• 59:14
  Uh, it's really good and it's used to describe a tough, a tough basically
• 59:18
  who's just sort of in modern day, but is like that kind of guy.
• 59:22
  And I was like, I don't know if that's a huge, and I know this
• 59:25
  writer wouldn't, wouldn't plagiarize.
• 59:27
  I just know it, um, based on who he is.
• 59:30
  So the fact that that got lifted, like that just is kind of a nod to
• 59:35
  the Sin City series and the writing in it, in my opinion, just felt
• 59:38
  like getting that off my chest.
• 59:39
  Ryan: so great though, you
• 59:41
  Kearns: So great though.
• 59:42
  Ryan: one of the most
• 59:42
  Kearns: Bring it up.
• 59:43
  That's like one of the most memorable scenes and not only the, the first,
• 59:46
  Ryan: graphic
• 59:47
  Kearns: he says it while Jessica Alba's on the pole
• 59:49
  Ryan: Nancy.
• 59:50
  Kearns: the movie.
• 59:51
  In the novel version.
• 59:52
  Yeah.
• 59:52
  Ryan: both.
• 59:53
  Kearns: No, I'm not talking about Nancy right now.
• 59:55
  I'm talking about Jessica Alba right now.
• 1:00:00
  That was, that was a scene that's, I think that probably made that movie $50 million.
• 1:00:05
  Just that promo scene.
• 1:00:07
  Ryan: that,
• 1:00:07
  Kearns: Yes.
• 1:00:08
  Yeah, that,
• 1:00:09
  Ryan: I
• 1:00:09
  Kearns: mean, for a fan, I was excited for a story.
• 1:00:12
  Ryan: Alba
• 1:00:13
  Kearns: Everyone else saw Jessica Alba.
• 1:00:14
  I was like, can I get a ticket?
• 1:00:16
  And one for later?
• 1:00:18
  They made the movies were so good.
• 1:00:19
  It made me want to learn the stories.
• 1:00:22
  And I did look into the, the graphic novels.
• 1:00:24
  Ryan: uh, 2005 it came out.
• 1:00:27
  So I actually got the original, like novel run where it has Nancy on the spine.
• 1:00:32
  So when you put the spines together,
• 1:00:34
  Kearns: So when you put spines together,
• 1:00:35
  Ryan: the
• 1:00:36
  Kearns: it's Nancy on the stripper pole.
• 1:00:39
  You stay on the pole.
• 1:00:40
  It's okay.
• 1:00:41
  She knows what she does.
• 1:00:42
  Ryan: you know, I just want to,
• 1:00:43
  Kearns: It's not disrespectful when, you know they do it.
• 1:00:48
  She's on the pole, man.
• 1:00:49
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:00:51
  Kearns: It's just, it's okay.
• 1:00:52
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:00:52
  Kearns: It's okay.
• 1:00:54
  Alright.
• 1:00:55
  You're just such a nice guy.
• 1:00:56
  Sometimes I gotta mess with you, but yeah.
• 1:00:58
  Um, that's cool man.
• 1:01:00
  That the spine does that.
• 1:01:01
  Ryan: it's, but
• 1:01:02
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 1:01:02
  Ryan: make it
• 1:01:03
  Kearns: it's, but they don't make it any longer.
• 1:01:05
  They,
• 1:01:05
  Ryan: for
• 1:01:06
  Kearns: they made it more contemporary for nowadays.
• 1:01:08
  Ryan: yeah, I'm, I think
• 1:01:10
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 1:01:10
  Ryan: a rare
• 1:01:11
  Kearns: I think it's, it's a rare commodity, but it's pretty cool.
• 1:01:14
  I'm looking at it right now, John.
• 1:01:16
  We should make it, our life's like work to take two and three and hide
• 1:01:21
  them somewhere far away and then like come up with this cruel jigsaw esque
• 1:01:26
  Ryan: messed up
• 1:01:27
  Kearns: of set of,
• 1:01:27
  Ryan: like the best stories.
• 1:01:29
  Kearns: that's like the best story that the
• 1:01:31
  Ryan: you know?
• 1:01:31
  Kearns: yellow pastor.
• 1:01:32
  Oh, you're right.
• 1:01:33
  Those are really good.
• 1:01:34
  Ryan: you
• 1:01:34
  Kearns: Those are two really good ones.
• 1:01:36
  You will once you find them, but if you fight just before you find
• 1:01:40
  them, you'll never see them again.
• 1:01:41
  Ryan: you can take to Helen back.
• 1:01:43
  You can take that one, you can take the last
• 1:01:46
  Kearns: I like to hell 'em back.
• 1:01:47
  Ryan: bad.
• 1:01:47
  It's just
• 1:01:48
  Kearns: I like all of 'em.
• 1:01:48
  It's just different.
• 1:01:49
  Yeah, true.
• 1:01:50
  Ryan: But.
• 1:01:51
  Kearns: But, all right, so Sin City, I gotta get us back on track here.
• 1:01:54
  'cause you know,
• 1:01:55
  Ryan: you're
• 1:01:55
  Kearns: so number one, love this turn.
• 1:01:58
  I'm sure I will.
• 1:01:59
  Ryan: 1994 Stars, Tim Robbins, Morgan Freeman.
• 1:02:04
  It's the Shawshank Redemption.
• 1:02:07
  Kearns: What are you doing?
• 1:02:07
  It's my favorite movie.
• 1:02:09
  Second favorite movie, maybe.
• 1:02:11
  Yeah.
• 1:02:11
  Ryan: accused.
• 1:02:12
  He didn't spoiler, he didn't kill his
• 1:02:15
  Kearns: Spoiler.
• 1:02:16
  He didn't kill his wife.
• 1:02:18
  Yeah, it's true.
• 1:02:20
  If you haven't seen Shaw Shank yet, I apologize, but yeah, it's another
• 1:02:24
  Stephen King work in your top five.
• 1:02:26
  Ryan: I did say
• 1:02:27
  Kearns: He was gonna kill her.
• 1:02:28
  He got so drunk, he pissed himself and fell asleep in his car, but he was a
• 1:02:31
  hundred percent gonna go shoot them.
• 1:02:33
  That's,
• 1:02:33
  Ryan: Oh yeah.
• 1:02:34
  Kearns: that's not true at all.
• 1:02:35
  But I'd like to think so.
• 1:02:36
  Just to argue with you,
• 1:02:37
  Jon: No, no spoilers.
• 1:02:38
  You, you, you
• 1:02:39
  Kearns: you had 30 years,
• 1:02:41
  Ryan: 1994.
• 1:02:42
  Kearns: see that there's a redemption at the end.
• 1:02:46
  Jon: you had 30 years and nightly, TNT earrings to see
• 1:02:52
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 1:02:52
  For real.
• 1:02:53
  Jon: if
• 1:02:53
  Kearns: can't think of a single hangover.
• 1:02:55
  I didn't get through watching Shawshank when it was just on regular cable.
• 1:02:59
  Ryan: Seven o'clock in the morning.
• 1:03:02
  Kearns: It's like just, oh God, seven o'clock in the morning.
• 1:03:06
  Wake up at like 10 30 just like, ugh.
• 1:03:09
  And drink tap water.
• 1:03:11
  And then you just hear Morgan Freeman prison's no fairytale place.
• 1:03:14
  And you're like, Hmm, back to bed
• 1:03:16
  Ryan: Good name Morgan Freeman.
• 1:03:20
  Kearns: night Morgan.
• 1:03:20
  Thank you.
• 1:03:22
  And you wake up again and he's already halfway through the, the shit tunnel.
• 1:03:25
  And you're like, we're gonna make it together, Andy.
• 1:03:31
  Anyway, back to the, back to the top five.
• 1:03:34
  Um, so your number one was Shawshank?
• 1:03:36
  Yep.
• 1:03:37
  Definitely wrongfully accused.
• 1:03:38
  That was a good list.
• 1:03:39
  I hate you.
• 1:03:40
  I hate you for making it engaging.
• 1:03:42
  'cause I'm the reason it went 12 minutes long.
• 1:03:44
  All right, John,
• 1:03:45
  Ryan: that folks?
• 1:03:46
  Jon: Okay,
• 1:03:46
  Kearns: you heard that?
• 1:03:49
  Jon: I did it a
• 1:03:50
  Kearns: And it hurts.
• 1:03:50
  Jon: this time also.
• 1:03:53
  Um, so my top five is more people than movies.
• 1:03:57
  I.
• 1:03:58
  Kearns: Okay.
• 1:03:59
  Jon: But my top five in
• 1:04:00
  Kearns: top five in honor of David Reed is directors acting in our movies.
• 1:04:07
  Oh, cool.
• 1:04:08
  This will be fun.
• 1:04:09
  Jon: one.
• 1:04:09
  Kearns: Part one.
• 1:04:11
  Jon: so, this
• 1:04:12
  Kearns: So this list could be,
• 1:04:13
  Jon: And
• 1:04:14
  Kearns: and I also had, I'm gonna throw in on this,
• 1:04:17
  Jon: in
• 1:04:18
  Kearns: not in their own,
• 1:04:19
  Jon: so no,
• 1:04:20
  Kearns: so no, like self,
• 1:04:21
  Jon: Hitchcock,
• 1:04:22
  Kearns: Hitchcock,
• 1:04:23
  Jon: in somebody
• 1:04:24
  Kearns: somebody else,
• 1:04:27
  Jon: So my number five is Jeremy
• 1:04:29
  Kearns: Jeremy Gar
• 1:04:30
  Jon: who directed the
• 1:04:32
  Kearns: the battery And after midnight, mm-hmm.
• 1:04:35
  After
• 1:04:35
  Jon: to add to our, our list.
• 1:04:38
  But the
• 1:04:38
  Kearns: midnight's coming up
• 1:04:40
  Jon: guys
• 1:04:40
  Kearns: guys.
• 1:04:41
  Jon: excited for.
• 1:04:43
  And Jeremy
• 1:04:44
  Kearns: And Jeremy Gardner
• 1:04:45
  Jon: has,
• 1:04:45
  Kearns: has, you know, pretty,
• 1:04:47
  Jon: a
• 1:04:47
  Kearns: probably a longer
• 1:04:49
  Jon: resume.
• 1:04:49
  He was
• 1:04:49
  Kearns: resume.
• 1:04:50
  He was in Christmas.
• 1:04:51
  Bloody,
• 1:04:51
  Jon: was in
• 1:04:52
  Kearns: he was in,
• 1:04:53
  Jon: He was in
• 1:04:54
  Kearns: in.
• 1:04:55
  Jon: He's been in a bunch of really, really top notch horror.
• 1:04:59
  Kearns: I don't know.
• 1:05:00
  He was in spring.
• 1:05:01
  Jon: Yep.
• 1:05:02
  Kearns: That's the one that I'm thinking of.
• 1:05:03
  Spring.
• 1:05:04
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:05:05
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 1:05:05
  Jon: the, yep.
• 1:05:06
  Kearns: Ah, sorry.
• 1:05:08
  I'm old.
• 1:05:09
  Jon: lot, he's been in their stuff and he's been in a lot
• 1:05:12
  of Joe Bagels smoothies and
• 1:05:14
  Kearns: That sounds like a dude
• 1:05:15
  Jon: is
• 1:05:16
  Kearns: who's lives in a Winnebagos, if you know what I mean.
• 1:05:19
  It's like a dude, you know.
• 1:05:19
  Let your kid in near.
• 1:05:21
  Jon: dude, we have to start adding his movie, his movies onto this list too.
• 1:05:24
  'cause
• 1:05:24
  Kearns: Well, the good part about this is we don't plan to stop, so we got time.
• 1:05:28
  We're gonna pop him in, baby.
• 1:05:31
  Cool.
• 1:05:32
  Jon: so my number
• 1:05:33
  Kearns: So my number four.
• 1:05:34
  Jon: of spring, is Justin Benson,
• 1:05:37
  Kearns: Okay, cool.
• 1:05:38
  What was he?
• 1:05:39
  Jon: he, he did, you know, spring and all the, and all the ones we've
• 1:05:43
  talked about with Morehead, but he acted in after midnight, the Jeremy
• 1:05:48
  Kearns: okay.
• 1:05:49
  Jon: So they, he
• 1:05:49
  Kearns: Okay.
• 1:05:50
  Jon: of home and home there.
• 1:05:51
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 1:05:53
  Little bit of, little bit of synchronicity.
• 1:05:55
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:05:58
  So my number three is gonna
• 1:06:00
  Kearns: Is gonna be David
• 1:06:01
  Ryan: Yes.
• 1:06:03
  For night
• 1:06:04
  Jon: So we know he scanners the fly,
• 1:06:06
  Kearns: Fly, obviously for night, but also for his role in Jason X. Oh, wow.
• 1:06:12
  What does he do in Jason X
• 1:06:15
  Jon: I don't even remember.
• 1:06:16
  He's just in it and being David Kronenberg.
• 1:06:18
  Ryan: I think he's
• 1:06:19
  Kearns: Kronenberg all over the place.
• 1:06:21
  Ryan: he gets killed in the beginning.
• 1:06:22
  He like leads Jason to the The chiro for
• 1:06:25
  Jon: Yeah, he's, he's definitely like up to nefarious crap and dies.
• 1:06:32
  Kearns: Cool.
• 1:06:33
  I mean, who doesn't wanna do that
• 1:06:36
  Jon: Um, my number two, my next, the one and two are pretty mainstream.
• 1:06:41
  Um, number two is Quentin Tarantino
• 1:06:45
  Ryan: I am shocked he
• 1:06:46
  Jon: and I'll I.
• 1:06:48
  Kearns: on, lemme think.
• 1:06:48
  Lemme think of what movie he didn't direct that he was in.
• 1:06:53
  I mean, I bet you Ryan knows right off the top of his head.
• 1:06:58
  Jon: Dear
• 1:06:59
  Kearns: who's talking to
• 1:07:01
  Jon: Yes.
• 1:07:02
  Kearns: God?
• 1:07:03
  I knew it.
• 1:07:04
  Ryan: he would accept four rooms.
• 1:07:05
  Kearns: the fifth sperm
• 1:07:07
  Jon: Nope,
• 1:07:08
  Kearns: What's that?
• 1:07:09
  Ryan: Uh,
• 1:07:09
  Jon: not four rooms.
• 1:07:11
  Oh,
• 1:07:12
  Kearns: No four.
• 1:07:13
  Jon: from dus
• 1:07:13
  Kearns: I got nothing.
• 1:07:14
  Ryan: Oh, that is true.
• 1:07:15
  Kearns: it's right.
• 1:07:16
  He didn't direct that.
• 1:07:17
  God damnit
• 1:07:17
  Ryan: it.
• 1:07:18
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:07:18
  Kearns: He did write it.
• 1:07:20
  He directed it though.
• 1:07:21
  No, he didn't.
• 1:07:22
  Did he direct it?
• 1:07:23
  He didn't.
• 1:07:23
  No, no.
• 1:07:24
  He wrote it.
• 1:07:24
  Wrote he wrote it.
• 1:07:25
  He didn't direct it.
• 1:07:26
  Got it.
• 1:07:27
  Yeah.
• 1:07:27
  So he's, he made somehow managed to finagle sell my
• 1:07:31
  hayek's foot into his own mouth.
• 1:07:32
  I know he had some power over that movie,
• 1:07:34
  Ryan: a
• 1:07:34
  Jon: of course.
• 1:07:34
  Kearns: all right.
• 1:07:35
  Ryan: He wrote the film.
• 1:07:36
  Of
• 1:07:36
  Kearns: It's like I, I'll make the, I'll make the, I'll make the movie
• 1:07:39
  with you, but I have to be this one specific actor and I I know who's gonna
• 1:07:43
  be the stripper lady with the snake.
• 1:07:46
  Jon: I am,
• 1:07:47
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 1:07:47
  Jon: character I play, it doesn't matter.
• 1:07:50
  Kearns: Are what size Converse are those, are those size sixes?
• 1:07:52
  It's not important.
• 1:07:53
  Jon: foot in my mouth.
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  It doesn't matter.
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  Kearns: Yeah, it's for real.
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  That's probably like one of his dis the addendum in his deal with the
• 1:08:00
  devil for becoming the director.
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  He is.
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  He was like, you know what?
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  I'm putting a footnote on here.
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  I don't, I'm gonna make sure he doesn't see it.
• 1:08:06
  He was like, puts it there.
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  Satan didn't see it.
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  Signed it All right.
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  One soul.
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  Yes.
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  Jon: Perfect.
• 1:08:12
  There.
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  Kearns: So any, but for anybody who hasn't seen the movie, Quentin
• 1:08:17
  Tarantino plays the guy and, uh, Salma Hayak puts her foot in his mouth
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  and pours champagne down her leg.
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  And she's probably the hottest she's ever been and ever will be in that movie.
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  I mean, she's always been a beautiful woman and she always will be,
• 1:08:31
  probably presumably, but, um, she, she's just absolutely every human
• 1:08:38
  on earth watched that movie and was like, Ugh, when she came out.
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  So Tarantino
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  Jon: Yep.
• 1:08:44
  Kearns: did something
• 1:08:45
  Jon: Yep.
• 1:08:46
  Ryan: Makes,
• 1:08:46
  Kearns: that moment.
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  Ryan: me want to go to that club.
• 1:08:49
  Kearns: I wanna go to that club just 'cause it's such a cool movie.
• 1:08:52
  Ryan: you know the
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  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 1:08:53
  Kearns: You know the name of that club?
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  The Copa Cabana, the Twist.
• 1:08:59
  Even better, it looks like it would be called the Titty Twister.
• 1:09:03
  It's like a roadhouse, but um,
• 1:09:05
  Ryan: the Mexican desert
• 1:09:06
  Kearns: yeah, Mexican desert.
• 1:09:08
  Ryan: the bounce there.
• 1:09:09
  Kearns: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:09:09
  Ryan: teach Marin as your, as your bartender or Bud Tenderer, depending.
• 1:09:16
  Kearns: depending, right
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  Jon: There's,
• 1:09:17
  Kearns: there
• 1:09:18
  Jon: so many cool like cult actors thrown in there.
• 1:09:21
  Kearns: in there.
• 1:09:22
  Ryan: Harvey
• 1:09:22
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 1:09:23
  Ryan: Uh, Juliette Lewis.
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  A
• 1:09:24
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:09:25
  Ryan: Lewis.
• 1:09:27
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:09:30
  You
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  Kearns: It's a good film.
• 1:09:31
  Jon: in there.
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  Ryan: George Clooney.
• 1:09:36
  Kearns: We didn't, I didn't even really know how much of a, like, it
• 1:09:40
  was difficult to differentiate at that time what was an Epic movie and
• 1:09:44
  what was just a horror movie for me.
• 1:09:46
  'cause I was young, I was pretty young and like that one didn't
• 1:09:49
  even feel epic at the time.
• 1:09:51
  I was like, oh, it's Clooney, I get it.
• 1:09:53
  There's this other guy who was kind of weird and licks feet and there's
• 1:09:56
  a super hot lady with a snake and now there's Billy Buyers everywhere.
• 1:09:59
  Oh God.
• 1:10:00
  I didn't see this coming at all.
• 1:10:01
  And that's kind of where, but I didn't know who Danny Trejo was
• 1:10:03
  or Cheech or any of that stuff.
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  No.
• 1:10:07
  Any of that.
• 1:10:08
  So it was, it was just like a cool movie.
• 1:10:11
  And then later on in life, Tarantino exploded.
• 1:10:14
  I sort of looked back on it.
• 1:10:15
  But any who,
• 1:10:18
  Jon: So before
• 1:10:19
  Kearns: so before number one, I'm gonna throw a quick,
• 1:10:21
  honorable mention in because
• 1:10:23
  Jon: I wanted him
• 1:10:24
  Kearns: I wanted him to be number one.
• 1:10:25
  I wanted George Romero to be number one,
• 1:10:27
  Jon: But
• 1:10:28
  Kearns: but
• 1:10:28
  Jon: roles
• 1:10:29
  Kearns: roles in
• 1:10:29
  Jon: movies are
• 1:10:30
  Kearns: movies are just
• 1:10:31
  Jon: short.
• 1:10:32
  Kearns: short.
• 1:10:33
  Yeah.
• 1:10:34
  Jon: 'cause I mean,
• 1:10:35
  Kearns: I mean,
• 1:10:36
  Jon: his role in Silence of the Lambs,
• 1:10:38
  Kearns: land.
• 1:10:39
  Jon: or, I mean, you
• 1:10:42
  Kearns: I didn't even know he was in it,
• 1:10:43
  Jon: see the back of his
• 1:10:44
  Kearns: the back of his head.
• 1:10:44
  Jon: in one
• 1:10:45
  Kearns: Oh, okay.
• 1:10:47
  Jon: Hannibal Lector scenes.
• 1:10:49
  So I, I couldn't put
• 1:10:51
  Kearns: I couldn't put him at numbers.
• 1:10:52
  I couldn't put him on here.
• 1:10:53
  It's not long enough.
• 1:10:54
  Jon: one
• 1:10:54
  Kearns: So my number one is West Craven.
• 1:10:56
  Oh, okay.
• 1:10:58
  Jon: uh,
• 1:10:58
  Kearns: tracks
• 1:10:59
  Jon: in a movie called The
• 1:11:00
  Kearns: a movie called The Fear.
• 1:11:01
  Jon: and has a
• 1:11:02
  Kearns: Oh,
• 1:11:02
  Jon: and Diary of the
• 1:11:03
  Kearns: di of the Death.
• 1:11:05
  Okay.
• 1:11:07
  Jon: So I got Romero
• 1:11:07
  Kearns: I got Romero in there.
• 1:11:09
  Ryan: I was gonna
• 1:11:09
  Kearns: Romero showed up.
• 1:11:11
  Ryan: Romero from Call of
• 1:11:12
  Kearns: said Romero from Call of Duty,
• 1:11:14
  Ryan: Zombies.
• 1:11:15
  I think either the first one or the
• 1:11:17
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:11:17
  Kearns: first one.
• 1:11:18
  We can do video game cameos at one point.
• 1:11:20
  I'm sure there's a million of those.
• 1:11:21
  Keanu, who's probably got six just random video games.
• 1:11:26
  Yeah.
• 1:11:27
  Jon: from Night Breed.
• 1:11:29
  Voices in Red Dead redemption
• 1:11:31
  Kearns: redemption too.
• 1:11:32
  Oh, cool.
• 1:11:34
  What else you got there on your little note sheet?
• 1:11:35
  I bet you there's a million fun facts.
• 1:11:37
  We should publish those.
• 1:11:39
  Jon: we should.
• 1:11:40
  Kearns: We should publish those.
• 1:11:41
  Hey, uh, like, and subscribe, uh, send money to me specifically.
• 1:11:46
  I'll split it with them, I promise.
• 1:11:47
  And, um, I have a GoFundMe.
• 1:11:51
  I think they have a Patreon.
• 1:11:52
  I don't know.
• 1:11:52
  Just send us money.
• 1:11:53
  We're hungry.
• 1:11:53
  And yeah, let us know if you want the notes, because that'd be kind of cool.
• 1:11:57
  And also it'd be a good time to plug, uh, the letterbox that John's
• 1:12:02
  put together, which is, um, I.
• 1:12:04
  Jon: find us there.
• 1:12:05
  It's, uh, xenomania 50.
• 1:12:08
  Kearns: And that's where John will list out all the movies we talk about and
• 1:12:11
  reference in all these episodes, even if we only kind of, you know, ramble
• 1:12:15
  through them a little bit here and there, which is totally my fault, but whatever.
• 1:12:20
  You guys aren't perfect either.
• 1:12:21
  Jon: Yeah, find us on Instagram.
• 1:12:23
  Find us everywhere.
• 1:12:24
  Come
• 1:12:25
  Kearns: Yeah, we're on Instagram.
• 1:12:26
  It's true.
• 1:12:26
  It xenomania 50.
• 1:12:29
  Yep.
• 1:12:29
  Well, hopefully you're watching this on YouTube.
• 1:12:31
  If not, you're part of the problem and Yeah.
• 1:12:35
  Ryan: the
• 1:12:35
  Kearns: And anywhere podcast or sold,
• 1:12:37
  Jon: you get your podcasts.
• 1:12:39
  Kearns: but yeah, we'll find a place to publish these notes.
• 1:12:41
  Um, thinking letterbox would be probably the best place to be honest.
• 1:12:45
  But these might be a Patreon thing.
• 1:12:47
  It might end up being a Patreon thing, my fin,
• 1:12:50
  Jon: I
• 1:12:50
  Kearns: but yeah, that's, yeah.
• 1:12:51
  Tell you I,
• 1:12:52
  Jon: do
• 1:12:52
  Kearns: I, I do two versions of them.
• 1:12:54
  Jon: I
• 1:12:54
  Kearns: Oh.
• 1:12:55
  I do one with like information,
• 1:12:57
  Jon: just to throw some facts
• 1:12:58
  Kearns: some facts in, and I do
• 1:13:00
  Jon: I'm
• 1:13:00
  Kearns: one them
• 1:13:01
  Jon: and
• 1:13:01
  Kearns: watching
• 1:13:02
  Jon: the one as
• 1:13:02
  Kearns: and the one that I'm watching is
• 1:13:04
  Jon: of
• 1:13:04
  Kearns: kind of.
• 1:13:05
  Jon: So,
• 1:13:08
  Kearns: Third,
• 1:13:09
  Ryan: Yes.
• 1:13:13
  Kearns: I wanna see the unhinged version.
• 1:13:14
  You know, that's another tear on the Patreon.
• 1:13:16
  Here's the notes and here's John's unfiltered notes, which
• 1:13:21
  I didn't know I would be scared of until you mentioned them.
• 1:13:24
  Um,
• 1:13:25
  Ryan: Where did he get this?
• 1:13:26
  Kearns: amazing.
• 1:13:28
  Amazing.
• 1:13:29
  But yeah, guys, that was Xenomania episode 16.
• 1:13:32
  I can't believe we, we've done 16 of these already.
• 1:13:34
  Boys 16 on Night Breed.
• 1:13:37
  It's still one of my favorites.
• 1:13:38
  It's, it's not on the same tier as a monster movie as Pumpkin
• 1:13:43
  Head, but John's wearing the hat.
• 1:13:44
  So I feel like I have to mention that this was sort of in the same timeframe
• 1:13:48
  when I watched Pumpkin Head and it, it lives in that realm of my heart.
• 1:13:52
  It's sort of, it's an, it's just, you gotta see it.
• 1:13:55
  It's got a feel to it, a vibe, all its own, and it really is worth watching.
• 1:13:59
  Um, so go out, spend money on it.
• 1:14:02
  Buy it for a dollar 99.
• 1:14:03
  4 99 on Amazon.
• 1:14:05
  Watch it a hundred times if you want to, or wherever actually
• 1:14:09
  by the actual Yeah, disc.
• 1:14:12
  Jon: disc.
• 1:14:13
  Kearns: I have
• 1:14:14
  Jon: an, IM an Arrow
• 1:14:15
  Kearns: an arrow import.
• 1:14:17
  Jon: like if you have the, the region free Blu-ray player,
• 1:14:20
  that's a good way to go too.
• 1:14:21
  Kearns: To go too.
• 1:14:22
  You know what we'll do too, because fuck Jeff Bezos.
• 1:14:24
  We'll find a way, um, for you guys to patronize some, somebody who
• 1:14:29
  could actually use the business
• 1:14:31
  Jon: Uh, I'll
• 1:14:31
  Kearns: you want to buy these
• 1:14:32
  Jon: the bat.
• 1:14:33
  Two
• 1:14:33
  Kearns: boom,
• 1:14:34
  Jon: bat that are good.
• 1:14:35
  Orbit.
• 1:14:35
  DVD and Diabolic.
• 1:14:37
  DVD.
• 1:14:38
  Kearns: diabolic and orbit, not the gum.
• 1:14:40
  Those are assholes too.
• 1:14:42
  We're talking about orbit, the DVD people.
• 1:14:45
  Okay?
• 1:14:46
  Jon: definitely.
• 1:14:47
  Kearns: Yeah, definitely.
• 1:14:47
  Jon: mean, it's not
• 1:14:49
  Kearns: it's not Amazon shipping, but it's pretty
• 1:14:52
  Jon: You,
• 1:14:52
  Kearns: I mean, who needs two day shipping?
• 1:14:54
  We're, I mean, we have to get used to the fact that we don't need two day
• 1:14:57
  shipping for toothbrushes from Taiwan.
• 1:14:59
  We really don't.
• 1:15:01
  These are, and so, yeah, orbit, which by the way, their gums fantastic.
• 1:15:05
  Um, orbit will be our sponsor on our next episode.
• 1:15:08
  We love you Orbit and diabolic.
• 1:15:11
  Those are two great places.
• 1:15:13
  Diabolic with a K, because why not?
• 1:15:15
  Jon: Yep.
• 1:15:16
  Kearns: those are two great places to get it.
• 1:15:17
  I wouldn't call them indie, but they're definitely more in our sphere.
• 1:15:21
  Let's give them some money.
• 1:15:23
  Jon: Definitely.
• 1:15:24
  Ryan: some love.
• 1:15:25
  Kearns: all right guys, that's it for our episode.
• 1:15:27
  Thank you guys.
• 1:15:27
  You did such an amazing job of dragging me out of my catacombs.
• 1:15:31
  I've been dying for the last two days, everybody.
• 1:15:33
  So we're recording this late and, uh, thanks
• 1:15:36
  Ryan: See you guys later.
• 1:15:38
  Kearns: guys.
• 1:15:38
  Later.
• 1:15:39
  Jon: you guys.