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It's a Thursday morning. Harvey Payton is here at the Peyton Law Firm
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in Nitro. Number to call three h four three four five fifty eight fifty
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law. Harvey is here to answer your questions. And Harvey, good morning.
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You drove through the haze? Oh my goodness, crazy, it was.
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Yeah. I followed the circutest route from exit thirty nine in Tay's Valley,
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where I entered I sixty four. I immediately exited at the next exited,
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Crooked Creek, because I guess when you get old, you get more
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cautious. Maybe, but the visibility was terrible on I sixty four. It's
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smoke and you can get a touch of fog. Between Crooked Creek and the
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Canar River Bridge. There there's about a three mile stretch, and in that
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three mile stretch you've got two entry ramps coming onto the interstate from Crooked Creek
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in the Valley Road and then from out thirty five, and then you've got
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two lane shifts going to the bridge, and then you've got the Saint Albans
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entry ram. I was like entry ramp, which is really a sign,
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yeah, stop sign, and you know, it doesn't take much on an
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interstate. Somebody stops, somebody puts their brakes on, and the next thing
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you know, pal pal pal, because you've got bad visibility and people driving
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too fast. So I just thought off at Crooked Creek and came out to
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Valley Road to to the mouth is scarier there, and take a right eight
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seventeen to Saint Albans And I was going to go across to Institute and get
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on the Interstate, but the traffic was pretty clear, so I just chugged
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on up around sixty, which I've driven like twenty thousand times in my lifetime,
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having grown up in Saint Albans and lived in Nitro and worked in Charleston
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and around. So just took about ten minutes longer to get here. Yeah,
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and you can see, you can definitely this is worse than it was
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several weeks ago. Yeah, it's significantly worse. And I text send a
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text message to one of my friends and used to be a Labrador this morning
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saying, hey, you know, thanks, first of all, thanks for
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sending this to us. Now we'll take the live lobsters and the wheat and
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the beef out of Canada, but we don't want this fag. I mean,
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maybe a little timber. My concern now is and I'm supposed to be.
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I'm going up there at the end of this month for Atlantic salmon fishing
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adventure and that's in northern Labrador. On One of the big problems is fog
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off the Labrador Sea, especially especially now since you've got a warming trend in
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the ocean there, which is attributable to a climate change, you tend to
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get more fog and you can't fly into these camps. And you know,
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smokes no different from fog. I've been there before and in Goose Bay when
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it was touchy to fly southeast out of Goose Bay towards the Atlantic Coast to
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a brook Drop fishing camp because they were firing mean visibly fire as you could
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see. And then, you know, a few years ago, my wife
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and I were going to tour and spend some time at Glacier National Park and
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then drove down to Yellowstone and we ended up shortening our stay at Glacier and
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extending our stay at Yellowstone because there were fires at Glacier and we could not
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Actually we went to the hotel, the Isaac Walton in one of the old
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iconic hotels there just on the border of Glacier National Park, and went to
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the front desk. Lay said, well, do you want to check in?
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Well, you know we're here, and what would be the downside?
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Said, well, if the fire is right over there on that hill,
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and you know you can the road is still open between here and Whitefish.
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If you want to turn around and go back, we don't have any problem
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because that road is going to be closed here shortly. If you want to
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check in, you can check in, But if we get an emergency evacuation
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order, you can't leave in your car and you can't take anything with you.
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You have to get on one of those buses and the parking lot and
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we'll take you to a well that's not much of a choice, right,
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So back to Whitefish, Montana. We went for a couple of days and
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just drove into the park and the parts that you could could access. It
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mean, it's a serious problem, obviously, it's you know, I don't
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know what we do about it. We're this far down the road, and
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the warming air and more CO two in the atmosphere, so you've got hotter
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air, you've got air current sutern over, you've got storms now brewing in
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the Atlantic, and wildfires in Australia and in Central Asia, and here I've
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we had to accommodate that. Eventually, hopefully we'll find some way to confront
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this climate change issue that is lawful and not otherwise overly destructive of the economic
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and standards of living, and we can something we can live with as opposed
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to dying in the heat. But this morning in Putnam County, West Virginia,
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the effects are clearly present. It was I've never seen it that bad.
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Now. We've had some smoke here in the pass from local forest fires,
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but you can smell the smoke then this is just that particulate. Like
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the fires. Everybody kind of remembers the fires from years ago that forget what
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year it was, Virginia Tech game Intown, you know, but you could
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smell I mean that was those fires were closer by. The neighbor was burning
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leaves, right, Yeah, you could smell it. Yeah. You know
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we're in the wilderness here now, bears are everywhere. I just I don't
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know why I thought about that, but you know, we've had a couple
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of beer saytings in Day's Valley and in downtown Saint Albans. And so this
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past weekend, my wife and I were on a sort of a mountain jog.
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We went to Davis and Canane Valley and Mike Waterfalls, and Drew drove
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over to Warfield to visit our friends at Warfield and thought, well, let's
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just take a road trip, A long road trip. I'll say, it
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does get long when you get over there. Oh yeah, So you went
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south and instead of turning off at Mouth of Seneca and coming back through Elkins,
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we just stayed south, went to Green Bank and to see the observatory,
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and through Marlington and Richwad. I really wanted to do that because I
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wanted to see what they look like right this seven years after the flood Marlon,
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there's a lot of resemblance between Marlington and Parsons. You know. There
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it looks clean and it's neat, but there are less buildings than they were
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before for and there's some boarded up buildings and the rich Wood it's just rich
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Wood. We didn't go down on the part of town by the river.
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We just drove along the high road and didn't see it. Stopped at Granberry
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Glades, which is delightful. No wildlife until we got to Smithers. So
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we got to get something to eat. So we stopped the Tutors and Smithers
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where there's a sign on the door or was said please don't feed the bear.
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So I asked the lady. I said, man, that's an unusual
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sign. Was whips out of her phone and says, look at this,
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and it's two little beer cubs in their dumpster. And then the mother cobs
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and runs one. Awesome, So we sit out. You know, Tutors
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based in nightrobes. Better foods right the part of the Kraigo Empire. Food's
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good, and so to my wife and I ate and we left it to
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get out of the tutors and smithers. You know where it is up on
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the bank and you have to pull in and go to your right and put
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to get out, there's no exit on the far end of the lot because
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it's up above the ray. You have to go around the building. So
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we circle around the building and guess who's there by the dumpster? Be the
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bear, one of little bears, and you know you can't resist. You
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take a picture of him on your toel on your phone. But that's just
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a problem. I'll tell you. I thought about it for a day and
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then uh see yesterday or the day before, I was going down get off
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the institute to go back to the office and stopped in at Better Food's home
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office there and Nitro a ray that now runs the operations you really needed.
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Of course he was surprised and oh my goodness, you know, get up
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there and called D and R. Get up there and secure that dumpster because
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they had a chain link fence around the dumpster. But the thought was open,
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well, you had a chain link fence, I'm gonna stop a little
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bear. And do you have a liability issues? You know, if you
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know you've got a wild animal that's frequenting the premises. Think about putting out
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signs to say, don't feed the bears. Four year olds don't read right.
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It's like saying caution swimming pool, drowning hazards, stay out. Well,
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that doesn't work with It was many six year olds, but it was
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kind of They're just everywhere, it seems in Charleston. I mean, my
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good friend Tom Hernie, he's a lawyer, attorney with Jackson Kelly, been
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a friend of mine for decades and he think he knows in the Edgewood area
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and it's just overrun with raccoons and bears. And South Hills apparently has the
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same problem. But so the legal let's big news is going to come out
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today on the legal front night Stay. Supreme Court has had a they've had
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a busy term and they've decided some cases that have some legal significance, but
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nobody pays attention to you. They had a venue in jurisdiction case out of
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Pennsylvania this week that was decided that's decidedly in favor of litigants plain offs,
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people who bring claims as opposed to the vested interests. It was a case
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in which Norfolk Southern Railway challenges a suit that was brought in Pennsylvania by a
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railroad worker who alleged that he had been exposed to hazardous substances as a part
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of NSA's operations in It was Virginia, and Pennsylvania has a little quirky law
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that says if when you form a corporation, you can sent to being sued
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in Pennsylvania by whoever sues you, and it doesn't make any reference or any
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limitation or where the cause of action arose, or where the venue may be
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the most convenient you just by virtue of becoming authorized to transact business in Pennsylvania.
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Agree that that can be a jurisdiction for civil claims. So the man
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brought a suit in Pennsylvania. I'm not sure whether it was in Allegheny County
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or over around Philly. Those are pretty good jurisdictions or plaintiffs, particularly in
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railroad claims. They have a lot of lawyers up there that are familiar with
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at work. And nor of Exciting brought a motion to dismiss saying that there
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should be no jurisdiction because there were no contacts between the place where the man
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was injured, where the work was done, where that the railroad's division that
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allegedly injured him was situated in Pennsylvania, and that was true, the cause
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of action arose in Virginia, if at all, And that case made us
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way through the courts to the United States Supreme Court. And you know,
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that would be a case where if you the court is biased, as some
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say, they are, in favor of big business. I think that some
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of the rulings are more business oriented than I think are appropriate. But that
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that case would be dismissed and they would say it was McDonald, you on
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back to Virginia now and bring a lawsuit. No no, no, no,
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no no. They sustained the spring within the United States, I think
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in a sixty three decision, obviously it was Thomas and Alito. I mean,
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the guys who fly around in a million dollars chats and by big businessmen
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don't generally a rule in favor of railroad workers who've been injured. And I
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think it was Gorsage would have sustained the position of the railroad. But you
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know, sixty three opinion, I mean that has some significance. How people
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do business. We're companies registered to do business the laws that relates to personal
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jurisdiction, what kind of relief you can get. And that's not one of
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those big cases. It gets a lot of headlines, but it was a
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pretty important case for the legal community. The case that got the head was
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the independent legislature case, which was a huge case North Carolina North Carolina.
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Was it only North Carolina? There are two states involved because the question was
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constitutionally and under the Civil Rights Act, whether you know there's clause in the
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state in the United States Constitution about elections. It says essentially that all elections
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are a matter to be dealt with by the state, and the legislatures of
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the state says legislatures doesn't say anything else. And but the the consensus,
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the overwhelming weight of majority forever has been that, you know, legislatures don't
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exist independently. They exist in a constitutional framework established by the state, which
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has checks and balances and allocations of power and courts. And therefore, when
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it says legislatures, it means legislatures in the practical science as they exist and
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operate in a democratic system. Not that the founding fathers intended that a legislature,
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regardless of its makeup could do whatever it wanted to with any election.
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Now, that's called the independent legislative theory, which has been glommed on by
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mostly the federalist society sorts, you know, who believe that there should be
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a group of elitists that know more about things than anybody else and that they
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should be the ones who vote and exercise authority. And that case was decided
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that the longstanding precedent prevails that legislature means legislature as it practically exists within the
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framework of a state government that creates in a constitution, the place that checks
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and balances on the legislature, and not just some super electoral phenomenon. Moving
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into the United States Constitution from the beginning, I mean, it's obviously really
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important to think about it. I think about the think about the alternative to
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that. I mean, if you just cast us at first of all,
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casting aside a couple hundred years of president is not good. Fifty years of
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president being cast aside has caused us enough trouble. And either way I mean
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plus v Ferguson when that was cast aside, that led to almost open revalion
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in the Southern States. And now the de facto seggregation of schools all across
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the South, the creation of private schools and academies. And you know the
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Stabs decision on Roe v. Wade after fifty years has caused a political ripple.
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But this case had the Supreme with the United States said, well,
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you're right, North alnas courts have no authority to intervene in a redistricting case.
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Well think about that. I mean, then then the race is on
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to see who can get the number of delegates elected for reasons unrelated to elections.
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I mean, have you heard any any election ad saying vote for so
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and so because of the right to life and guns. And by the way,
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we also want to limit to have exclusive control of the presidential electures.
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And who's I mean the sence all the candidates are elected on. It's not
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what they can't paign on. But once they're elected, then they just think
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about it. If the West Virginia legislature that we know could operate as an
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independent legislature, well, let's just we have a supermajority. The governor can't
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veto a bill, the courts can't overturn it. We're just going to say
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that the only way that you can vote in West Virginia is to appear in
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person at a polling place, and we're gonna and no county can have more
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than four. And you have to produce a copy of your tax ticket for
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personal property or for a real estate, and you have to submit a written
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ballot which you will execute in the presence of an election official, and then
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dropping a box. Now, you know that sounds ridiculous, but the only
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way you can judge the possible outcome of a ruling is to look at the
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most ridiculous outcome, and that could be it. Now, what would that
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do for them number of people who vote? And if the point is supposed
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to have more people vote, right, I mean so that there's greater participation.
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So that's a great ruling. I thought ultimate today, whether there's a
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gay rights or religious rights case, it's whether a website designer advertisers you know
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in the public domain that they provide website services Facebook presence approached by a couple
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that wanted to have a celebration of their same sex marriage. I don't know
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what it's men or women, but don't make a difference the designers, So
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I don't believe in that, and I'm not going to do it. Well,
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so what's the court going to say about that? But says a state
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law that says a person who says I right under the United States Constitution to
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free exercise my religion, part of which is I don't believe in gain marriage.
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I don't want to support it, and the other says, well,
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wait a minute, but there's a law in your state that says you can't
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deprive a public service to anybody. I mean, if you're going to be
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in business and offer public services, you can't discriminate against on the basis of
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ABC D and E and E happens to be sexual preference. It's gonna be
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interesting. That's a it's a big case. The courts shakes. It's gonna
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be close. It's going to be close. And there's a couple more we
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want to talk about with Harvey. I want to go ahead and take the
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break here. It's a thirty nine. Lines are open three or four three
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Law Firm in Nitro is with this just like he is every Thursday morning,
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either he or Tom. And then I'm gonna call us three or four three
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four five fifty eight fifty eight three or four, three, four, five,
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fifty eight, fifty eight, huge day with the U. S.
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Supreme Court and rulings, and we're kind of previewing those and and Harvey talked
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about talked about one the LGBTQ rights case. There's also an affirmative action case
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that's going to be ruled on. There is, indeed, and that involves
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the admissions policies of Harvard University, which is a private institution, and the
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University of North Carolina Chapel Hell. I think it's a unified system in North
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Carolina, which is a public institution, whether those representative institutions and the groups
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that they represent can consider race as a factor in admissions. It's an usual
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with the Harvard case. When you think of affirmative action, I mean it's
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a dog whistle for white supremacists against black people. I mean that traditionally has
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been there's a quota. Why should we live with quotas hasn't been decided before.
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It's been a long sense in Michigan, Michigan, the College of Law
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at Michigan, right, but the Court has said that an institution of higher
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learning is entitled considered the benefit to everyone of a diverse student body. And
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so while race can't be the deciding factor as in an absolute quota system,
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uh, the racial balance of an admission class to a college or professional school
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can be a a factor to be considered along with others. And that's what
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they say at Harvard. Now the court would be far better addressed. I
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think to look at Harvard, at the system of legacy admissions, which make
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up a huge percentage of the people who get in. I mean, if
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your parents and grandparents went to Harvard and you're a whet Anglo Saxon Protestant who's
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had real estate money from New York for two hundred years, you're gonna get
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in because Paul Paul is going to give them a building. That's the reality
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of it. This is a forstanging about the Harvard case. The arguments that
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the opponents of affirmative actions say, race is race, regardless of the race
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we're talking about. And Asian students tend to be affected in a negative fashion
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by racial considerations because they're not given the same consideration. Apparently Asian admits are
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significantly down at Harvard. I don't know, because the court's never really drawn
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a bright line and said no, it cannot be a factor at all.
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Now, what can you do with a human mind? I mean, admissions
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to institutions are governed by the subjective analysis of applicants by those who make the
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decisions. Even at public schools WVU, when they get to the end of
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a class selection at the College of Law, they're always multiple applications that have
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about the same qualifications are right across the dean's desk, and he's got to
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make a decision, which is usually which is subjective, largely in nature.
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You're looking see what this person did in high school and college. You look
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and see what their background is. You know, if you've got somebody who's
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come from a really bad school system and an inner city with a life scarred
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by crime and exposure to violence. But they've risen to great heights and I
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could kemia in their high school career and there, and they've done a lot
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of things like writing and extracurriculars that would generally describe someone who's of a minority.
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You know. So, but I don't care what the color they are.
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They're they're outstanding on paper, and I'm going to admit them. I
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mean, that's still going to happen and We're gonna have to look at this
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after the fact and see what the effect is. They have a call,
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We're gonna go to the line. John, You're on the air with Harvey
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Peyton. Thanks for calling, John, Go ahead, morning John, Good
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morning, Harvey. I have a question for you. Have a friend,
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been a neighbor for many, many years over in Greenboro County, and like
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many rural people in West Virginia, his property rich, but financially four um,
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He's had a lot of health issues and I'm sure he's accumulated a pretty
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big bill with Medicaid. He would like to move his property when he dies
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through a transfer upon death deed. But I have been reading and hearing that
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the FEDS can challenge that transfer upon deathed? Is that, first of all?
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Is that truth? Is there any way to avoid that? Well,
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a transfer on death needs, like any other transfer, that may be made
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without adequate consideration with regard to eligibility. For I mean, if he is
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receiving Medicaid services right now, this has got to be his residence. I
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mean, if he has significant value real estate that's not residential, that's afar,
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or that's a piece of commercial property that's an asset which would disqualify him
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for Medicaid services until he liquidates that and uses it for his own care.
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So I don't think we've got all the facts on the table here, but
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let's just talk about the narrow issue of and I would advise him to scoot
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down to Louisbourg and talk to a lawyer, maybe go over to rich Ford
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and see what he has to say about estate planning. But yes, you
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know, when our legislature adopted the transfer undeath deeds, which many other states
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have, would allowed you to make a transfer at death outside of your estate,
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outside of probate that retain the effective ownership during your lifetime. The recitations
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to that code sections specifically state that it's not The purpose is to make it
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a non probate asset, not subject to claims or look backs. Now will
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that work? You're talking about a federal program. Kind of state law with
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regard to the manner which you transfer real estate override a federal program, which
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says, as far as the residence is concerned, we you know, you
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can keep it for your entire life. It's not an asset. But after
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your death, we can look back to that asset to recover all or part
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of what we've paid. That's what the Medicaid Handbook says. Has it been
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done in West Virginia. No transfer undeaths have been in a place for well
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eight years, and we do a lot of them. And I have yet
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to hear of any case in which the Office of Medicare Medicaid Services, acting
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through one of their contractors, has glad to go in a certacclaim. In
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any event, if if five years passed us from the date of the deed
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until the day of death, it's not. There's no look back anyway,
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so it never hurts to do it right. There's no guarantee, but the
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laws that influx. You know, if the federal government, if the US
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Attorney's Office in any particular district, or if the Legal Division of Wealth,
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of Medicare Medicaing Services, or the state Department of Health and Human Resources chose
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to bring in action challenging whether a transferen death deed removed the non probated asset
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completely from the state look back purposes. I can't predict what the outcome would
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be. That hasn't been done yet. So my advice to anyone now is,
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as the law stands right now, it's an exempt asset. It will
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say it will protect your residents. Now, might that change in the future
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maybe, but what harm could it do to make the transfer? Right now,
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if you live five years, it's a it's a fatal complete we say,
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John, Okay, well, so its as you describe. He's got
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a small house the property, but he's got acres that is part of where
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he lives. Well, but that's all. It's all class two I expect
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if you go over to the to the to the assessor's officer and rumor look
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at it's Class two residential. Okay, yeah, I mean it's so he
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could go ahead and do the deed if he chose, and yeah, and
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apparently that that's if he's now receiving some Medicaid services, then that's already been
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looked at by somebody to make an asset determine ation that has been excluded that
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I've never known Medicaid to get it. Now. I've had some where people
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have an airship interest in property and they report that Medicaid says, will you
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go to get rid of that, You've got to convert it into cash,
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then affect your house. Your home is not going to count against just so
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if he's already receiving Medicaid services and that's been looked at and cleared as an
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asset, there's no reason right now I can't do the transfer. Okay,
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okay, thank you very much, harming, thank you, John, great
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question. Eight fifty two lines are open through four three four five fifty eight
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fifty eight three or four three four five fifty fifty eight. Now back to
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the U. S. Supreme Court. There's a decision coming down also today
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on working on Sunday. You know, that's a big case. The interesting
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to see how the court deals with the fact that it's a postal worker who
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you know, then says Postal Service is a quasi governmental organization back since early
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like nineteen seventy one seventy two. It's no longer a cabinet level position.
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It's no longer a specific agency of the administrative branch of government. We still
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have a Postmaster General, but he's selected by this board of director as the
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US Postal Service, but they're treated as federal employees. Man said he didn't
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want to work or could not work on a Postal Service center on Sunday because
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it was his religion specifically prohibited any work on their sabbath, and that case
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is pending for decision by the Court. That you've had several cases in the
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past relative to what you can or can't ask an employee to do or not
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to do based upon their religious you know, firmly set religious belief I think
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I'll just have to wait and see on this one. Even when you get
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down to Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, who traditionally are the most conservative members
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of the Court as so far as it relates to the First Amendment and religious
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practices, this is a far reaching decision because how do you know, how
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does the how is an employer going to engage in hiring a sufficient number of
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people to cover their work. It's like you and I were bantering off the
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air. You look at me, I can look at you without knowing anything
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more about me than I put on an employment application. I think it would
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be inappropriate and probably subject an employer to to some action under state laws start
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making too much inquiry about a person's religious beliefs on employment application. Since our
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state law says you can't discriminate against somebody because of their religious beliefs, now,
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So where do you cross that line? And say, listen, yeah,
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all right, this involves shift to work. Do you have any problem
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working shift work? The person says, well, I'm a Coptic, and
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our religious beliefs are that there's a you can't It's like the old Pharisees.
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You can't drag your foot through the dirt on Sunday because that's like plowing of
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furrows. I guess you just sit there flat footed and eat without a life
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before. I don't know what you do, and that's so I can't do
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it work at all. Well, at that point, what's the employer did?
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So we're gonna get some guidelines from the court. I don't see ow
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they're going to carve this one out. I couldn't predict how it's going to
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come out. The court's really evenly divided on these close free exercise issues.
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I would say you're looking at a five four or six three at best.
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Obviously with Alito and Gorsich are probably Alito Gorsich probably well not probably clearly Thomas
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on one side and was just to have to see what Roberts has to say.
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And then the student loan case, well, is the President's student loan
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Forgiveness program constitutional? Well, I well, because is this something that should
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be left to Congress? Is this a material or can't he make just make
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the declaration right? Based upon his interpretation of the non specific language of the
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statute enacted by Congress, my personal prediction is that one's gone. This of
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course been pretty clear they said at last term in another case, look,
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you know this is they said it in the EPA cases. You know this
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is an overreach. You can't use it this general language to rapidly expand the
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program of Congress wanted to do this, they could have done it. That's
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just my prediction. And I think it's going to be a File four again
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with roberts to being the swing guy, and he's the one who has the
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opinion that the presidential power should be restricted, and they should be. I
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mean, it's not going to be good for the student loan recipients who are
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going to feel the brunt of this, which the opinion I predict. But
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I mean, we've got, in my opinion and everybody has them, that
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the Spring Court has too much authority right now to point the direction of this
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country, and the Executives, Ways and Means Committee and the Set of Appropriations
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Committee and the Speaker of the House and the President of Senate have some they
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do something. They can enact policies. They can go to the White House
36:08
and say, look, we're gonna do this, and you're either with us
36:10
or you're again us. Lyndon Johnson did any probably doing that when he was
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in the House and the Senate. He didn't have any problem who was president.
36:19
He knew he had to go to talk to Richard Russell to get a
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civil rights bill passed. He knew that he had to to get the voting
36:29
Rights I passed. He had to cut the budget because of the old men
36:34
in the House and the Senate. So we're just not going to do this
36:36
with these billion dollars budgets. You go get a can you imagine that?
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The question was could he get a billion out of the budget? And he
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called Russell and said, Dick, I got a billion and a half.
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Now you're you're going to vote for this? Well, Russell wasn't going to
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vote for it. There's a civil rights bill. He was from Georgia.
36:52
Said no, but you're not going to be against this. And other than
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the mouth of the tepe of got to the bottom of it, barely put
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up Robert Byrd, a second term news senator from West Virginia, made him
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