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Gary's Personal UFO Encounter, Fallen Angels, and the Ongoing Bank Failure · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy a Prophecy Watchers Podcast.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the podcast today, Monuvinzalez here with Gary Steerman
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Speaker 2: in studio. Here we are Gary during podcast.
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Speaker 3: Good times right, good times, well, depending on how you look.
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Speaker 2: That's true. There's a lot going on lately and that's
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Speaker 2: not so good. But also prophetically speaking, I would love
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Speaker 2: to talk here. Right at the beginning is a couple
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Speaker 2: banks failed, the second and third largest bank failures in
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Speaker 2: history this past week. I'll give you some stats. The
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Speaker 2: largest bank failure ever was the Washington Mutual back in
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Speaker 2: two thousand and eight three hundred and seven billion dollars.
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Speaker 2: But just here in the past couple of weeks, the
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Speaker 2: Silicon Valley Bank was two hundred nine billion, which is
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Speaker 2: second most ever. And then the third just happened right
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Speaker 2: after that Signature Bank of one hundred and ten billion.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting too when we see these bank failures the comparison.
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Speaker 2: The number four on the list was Indiemac. I remember
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Speaker 2: I used to have an account in Indie Indiemac. It failed
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Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight with only thirty one billion,
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Speaker 2: So you're talking three hundred seven two oh nine, one
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Speaker 2: hundred and ten and then Indiemak at thirty one billion.
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Speaker 2: That's quite a different. So this is these latest couple
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Speaker 2: bank failures were you know, five to eight times bigger.
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Speaker 3: You know what moves me and moves my heart if
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Speaker 3: you will about this information is it sends me back
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Speaker 3: to a movie, an old black and white movie about
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Speaker 3: a bank failure. Jimmy Stewart ran this bank in a
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Speaker 3: little town and their old mister Potter, who's a dirty,
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Speaker 3: rotten scoundrel opposing banker and lender, and there's this battle
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Speaker 3: of money and stability, and Jimmy Stewart with his little
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Speaker 3: tiny saving and loan wins the battle with the help
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Speaker 3: of all of his friends and the kind of a
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Speaker 3: spiritual background around it takes place around Christmas and it
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Speaker 3: becomes a Christmas blessing. But this is I think, this
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Speaker 3: whole story, this kind of a story is deep in
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Speaker 3: the human heart. And when we heard the other day
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Speaker 3: bank failure, It's been a long time since I've seen
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Speaker 3: that in the news, and it sends me reeling back
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Speaker 3: to this old movie about the Jimmy Stewart and the
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Speaker 3: bank failure and all the horror that ensued from that.
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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking Uh, oh, are we going to see
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Speaker 3: that movie play out again? And are we going to
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Speaker 3: be here when it does?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, what I find interesting area is, you know,
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Speaker 2: from those kind of you go back to thirty forty
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Speaker 2: years ago, and then you see the government's response in
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Speaker 2: creating the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, right, the FDIC, absolutely,
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Speaker 2: And I remember when I was younger at the time,
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Speaker 2: you know, it was one hundred thousand dollars per account,
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Speaker 2: not that I ever had that, nor do I do
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Speaker 2: I now, but now it's two hundred and fifty thousand. So
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Speaker 2: if you have two hundred fifty thousand dollars in your
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Speaker 2: bank account, you are guaranteed that if the bank fails,
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Speaker 2: the insurance company which you know the banks pay money
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Speaker 2: into this allegedly or they do, but you'll be safe. Well,
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Speaker 2: what I find interesting in this latest is, as we know,
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Speaker 2: no crisis should go to waste exactly, and the developments
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Speaker 2: that you see. We're the Silicon Valley Bank, this was
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Speaker 2: this is like Silicon Valley, right, Okay, we all know
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Speaker 2: where Silicon value is, you know, and you're talking these
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Speaker 2: are wealthy people that have far greater than two hundred
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Speaker 2: and fifty thousand. But what's coming out now is the corruption.
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Speaker 2: So here you have the bank failing. We could talk
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Speaker 2: about how it failed, but all these book one, oh no, no, no,
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Speaker 2: the bank's going to fail. We need to get our
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Speaker 2: money out, and so they were threatening insolvency, and so
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Speaker 2: people go out and they're pulling their money out of
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Speaker 2: the bank, which causes the bank to fail even quicker.
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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, all these extremely wealthy people,
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Speaker 2: the government comes out and says, well, we're not limiting
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Speaker 2: it to two hundred and fifty thousand. Everybody's going to
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Speaker 2: get their money back. So now you have a bank
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Speaker 2: of wealthy people where the bank itself is basically not
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Speaker 2: held accountable because even though it failed, it really didn't
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Speaker 2: fail because they're not calling it a government bailout, but
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Speaker 2: in fact it really is.
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Speaker 3: In fact, it really is, And in fact the leaders
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Speaker 3: of our government, very very close to the president, surrounding
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Speaker 3: our president, have gone to great lengths to just sit
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Speaker 3: and smile and say everything is just fine, no problem.
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Speaker 3: We can handle the closure of one or two banks
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Speaker 3: and everybody will wake up, but it'll be just fine.
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Speaker 3: It's like hypnosis almost. But going back to that old movie.
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Speaker 3: Do you remember the other theme in the movie Clarance,
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Speaker 3: the fallen angel.
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 3: Yes, he is sent down to help restore order, and
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Speaker 3: even Clarence, you know in the movie, doesn't know what
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Speaker 3: he's doing. But this takes place at the human heart
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Speaker 3: level because people get hurt when their means are ripped away,
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Speaker 3: and that fear is very close to the surface in
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Speaker 3: every American heart right now, mine included. I'm saying, bank Fader,
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Speaker 3: wait a minute, and I start looking around. I've protected
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Speaker 3: and then I start praying, Lord, please show me am I.
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Speaker 3: You know, we talked to the Lord as Christian, But
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Speaker 3: what are we talking about now, Mondo? This is what's
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Speaker 3: important to me.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think you nailed it. You nailed it because
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Speaker 2: there's a fear of could this happen to me? Could
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Speaker 2: this go to farther? I mean the second and third
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Speaker 2: largest banks. If you put these together, you're talking about
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Speaker 2: you know, three hundred and twenty billion, which is just
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Speaker 2: in a matter of two weeks, is bigger than the
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Speaker 2: largest one ever, the Washington Mutual one. But what I
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Speaker 2: find interesting here is that you see this this trend,
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Speaker 2: and we've talked about central digital bank currencies where we
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Speaker 2: know in Revelation thirteen. Maybe maybe it would be good
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Speaker 2: to read that Revelation thirteen sixteen through eighteen.
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Speaker 3: And I'll turn there while you're talking.
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Speaker 2: Yes, because we know we know what's coming, that there
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Speaker 2: is a one world system digit some some sort of
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Speaker 2: one cashlest society, a one world economic system that's coming
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Speaker 2: based on this passage.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is about the beast out of the earth,
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Speaker 3: theat of Christ. And for sixteen of Revelation thirteen says
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Speaker 3: any causes all both small and great, rich and poor,
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Speaker 3: free and bond to receive a mark in the right
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Speaker 3: hand or in their foreheads, and that no man might
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Speaker 3: buy or sell say that he had the mark. And Wow,
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Speaker 3: as I read this, I'm thinking electronic. Yeah, digital, I'm
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Speaker 3: thinking we've got all the means to produce that mark
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Speaker 3: right now. Or the name of the beast or the
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Speaker 3: number of his name. Oh, there's a number. I wonder
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Speaker 3: what that number is. Well, the Bible talks about that
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Speaker 3: number as six hundred three score and six in the
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Speaker 3: next verse, but I think it's a lot longer than that.
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Speaker 3: It may be a twenty one digit number, and maybe
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Speaker 3: the first three numbers of the twenty one are six
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Speaker 3: sixty six. But what I'm talking about is what you're
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Speaker 3: very familiar. We're all we all carry credit cards that
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Speaker 3: have the numbers on them, we have accounts that have
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Speaker 3: numbers on them, So we're familiar with numbers. And the
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Speaker 3: Bible wrote about this long long time ago, before there
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Speaker 3: were numbers associated with whether you can buy or sell.
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Speaker 3: So would you say we're almost there.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I would say that what you see here
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Speaker 2: is the fear mongering and the it causes. I mean,
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Speaker 2: when I'm reading these articles, it's like, oh no, oh, no,
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Speaker 2: oh no, these two large, second and third largest bank
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Speaker 2: failures in history. We need to fix this. We need
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Speaker 2: to make sure that we can't do this again. And
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Speaker 2: so because why, here's what happened. When you have digital money.
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Speaker 2: If you know a person can't make a run on it,
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Speaker 2: there's because it's digital. But if you actually go down
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Speaker 2: and you have five hundred thousand, and you actually want cash,
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Speaker 2: you want cash bills, and you go down there, all
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Speaker 2: of a sudden, now the this fiat system that we've
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Speaker 2: been had for a long time, it becomes exposed. And
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Speaker 2: so it's interesting that if you take away the cash,
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Speaker 2: the actual hard value, the hard material in your hand.
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Speaker 2: Component there can be no real run on a in
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Speaker 2: that sense because people would be like, well, I'm not
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Speaker 2: going to go down to the bank because they're not
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Speaker 2: going to hand me a flash drive with my money
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Speaker 2: on it. And so that they need to fix it
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Speaker 2: by creating a non material item, non tangible system. And
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Speaker 2: this is where the central digital bank currency comes in.
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Speaker 2: And they've been trying to get this based on that
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Speaker 2: passage of relation thirteen. We know that it's economic, it
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Speaker 2: says right in there by or Sell that's economics, pure
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Speaker 2: and simple. And so the government knows that in their
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Speaker 2: attempts to try to create these central digital banks. Number one,
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Speaker 2: there's all these laws that are being put in some
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Speaker 2: of the state legislatures right now. I just reading an
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Speaker 2: article yesterday on this that they put in there, and
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Speaker 2: they're outlawing by definition like bitcoin and some of these
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Speaker 2: cryptos which are decentralized. It has to be decentralized because
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Speaker 2: you can't control those things as well. You can, and
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Speaker 2: even China has outlawed bitcoin in some other cryptos in
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Speaker 2: certain places at certain times. But when you watch this
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Speaker 2: bank fill, what I see is this, this is the takeaway.
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Speaker 2: You better be scared. You better be scared, and we're
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Speaker 2: going to solve it for you by creating this digital
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Speaker 2: system there to keep you protected.
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Speaker 3: You've got it, I mean digital, electronic, it's all there.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, when we say digital these days,
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Speaker 3: we're not talking about the digital of twenty years ago.
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Speaker 3: We're talking about artificial intelligence, hyper high speed communications through
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Speaker 3: satellite networks. And I think the Antichrist will use those things.
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Speaker 3: But to maintain a global control, which the Bible says
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Speaker 3: that he will do. Yeah, you know that hasn't been
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Speaker 3: possible until recently.
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Speaker 2: Yep. And so are we near Well, I'm not saying
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Speaker 2: it's next week. But these these bank failures and a
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Speaker 2: little bit it's interesting you think, well, how did this
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Speaker 2: bank fail? Well, it's can you get a little technical,
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Speaker 2: But they were buying treasury bonds which have a very
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Speaker 2: low interest rate. Okay, which is great, they're secure. So
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Speaker 2: the banks go out, they buy all these low treasury,
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Speaker 2: low interest rate bonds cheap, and then what happens they
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Speaker 2: get they fill their portfolios with these. Well, then all
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Speaker 2: of a sudden, the Federal Reserve starts raising interest rates,
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Speaker 2: which means, now this bank over there is giving increased
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Speaker 2: interest rates for the depositors. Well, now you have this
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Speaker 2: low interest bearing bond which nobody wants. Nobody wants. So
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Speaker 2: now these banks ultimately they got stuck. They over extended
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Speaker 2: themselves with these bonds, and because the federal reserves was
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Speaker 2: increasing in the rates, and then they're like, well, what
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Speaker 2: are we gonna do now these bonds are the prices
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Speaker 2: are going down. So maybe they bought, you know, fifty
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Speaker 2: billion dollars worth and now they're worth twenty. Well, who
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Speaker 2: do you get rid of them to to take a
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Speaker 2: thirty billion dollar loss? You can allow them to mature.
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Speaker 2: You don't have time for that.
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Speaker 3: And you say they, and every time you say they,
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Speaker 3: it brings a bell in my head. Who are they?
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Speaker 3: They are a group of men, and they include men
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Speaker 3: from all over the globe who are powermongers. Yeah, very
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Speaker 3: well connected to each other. They have this underground communication system.
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Speaker 3: They all talk to each other. Some of them meet
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Speaker 3: in Switzerland, Yeah, the home of international banking. And you
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Speaker 3: know where I'm going with this. There is a group,
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Speaker 3: a cabal of people that the Bible talks about who
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Speaker 3: will be raised up in the last days ten kings yep,
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Speaker 3: and out of the ten kings will come this man
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Speaker 3: who says you can't buy or sell unless you have
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Speaker 3: the prefix six sixty six. We're there. You and I
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Speaker 3: both believe that all of the elements are in place.
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Speaker 3: But that brings me to something else, and that is,
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Speaker 3: as Christians, how should we receive this? Because you know,
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Speaker 3: we Christians, we tithe. We try to be circumspect with
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Speaker 3: our money. We try to follow the leading of the Bible.
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Speaker 3: Here's what you here's how you should handle your finances,
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Speaker 3: and here's how you should honor your fellow man and
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Speaker 3: the Turks and so forth. With all of this coming,
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Speaker 3: what should we be doing?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that we trust the Lord. As you said,
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Speaker 2: I think we get out of debt, we lower our expenses,
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Speaker 2: we come to the place of being wise with you know,
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Speaker 2: not being greed. That's really what came with here. There
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Speaker 2: was a whole bunch of greed. That's kind of typically
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Speaker 2: why banks fail. People go back to two thousand and eight.
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Speaker 2: It's the same way. But as Christians, we just show
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Speaker 2: wisdom circumspect. That's that's a great word. That we we
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Speaker 2: live in such a way that when trouble comes, because
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Speaker 2: we know it's coming, that we're prepared for it. Now,
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Speaker 2: does that mean we all become preppers? Not necessarily, but
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Speaker 2: it was it unwise to be able to grow your
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Speaker 2: own food as much as possible. No, that's a great idea.
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Speaker 2: Do what you can. Yeah, but ultimately, God isn't limited
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Speaker 2: if a bank fails. I mean, he's going to uh,
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Speaker 2: He's going to take care of us. But we should
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Speaker 2: do our part as well.
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Speaker 3: We should do our part as well and simply know
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Speaker 3: what's coming so that you won't be surprised. Frankly, I'm
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Speaker 3: not surprised to see what's happening today. It gives me
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Speaker 3: a little funny feeling in my stomach. But on the
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Speaker 3: other hand, I'm not surprised.
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Speaker 2: Now, you know what. And that's a great That's a
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Speaker 2: great segue, Gary, because the next topic is something I
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Speaker 2: know that you and I and others have talked a
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Speaker 2: lot about in not being surprised. So here's here's the headline. Okay, okay,
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Speaker 2: Now I'll say this that before I read the headline, you,
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Speaker 2: myself and La Marzouli just recently we did a three
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Speaker 2: DVD set series on the supernatural nature of the Bible,
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Speaker 2: and we talked about writing we talked about the supernatural
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Speaker 2: nature of the Bible. We talked about UFOs, we talked
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Speaker 2: about nepheline, we talked about cattle mutilations. We talked about
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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of things that was fun. And so
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Speaker 2: you say the word surprised, So let me just read
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Speaker 2: to you. I'm not surprised to hear this. Here's the
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Speaker 2: title Pentagon UFO chief suggests alien mothership may send probes
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Speaker 2: to spy on planet Earth, and then the subtitle Speculation
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Speaker 2: about a government backed psyop being perpetrated on the American
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Speaker 2: people has ratcheted up in recent months following the Biden
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Speaker 2: administration's decision to shoot down a Chinese spy balloon. So, okay,
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Speaker 2: let me just read the first paragraph.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: A draft report written by a high ranking Pentagon official
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Speaker 2: is making the truly bizarre claim that there may not
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Speaker 2: only be an alien mothership flying around the Earth Solar system,
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Speaker 2: but that it might send probes to our planet to
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Speaker 2: spy and mankind. Quote official interstellar object could potentially be
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Speaker 2: a parent craft that releases many small probes during its
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Speaker 2: close passage to Earth, an operational construct not too dissimilar
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Speaker 2: from NASA missions. The document says, so do you think, Okay,
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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about it later. But why now?
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Speaker 2: Why is the Pentagon UFO chief, Why is he saying this?
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Speaker 2: I have my own opinions, but Gary, what do you think?
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Speaker 3: Well, to me, it goes back to the nineteen forties
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Speaker 3: and Roswell, and everybody has seen and heard the Roswell
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Speaker 3: story a million times. That started just a little thinking underground, undercover,
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Speaker 3: not much, just a little conversation. But the conversation took
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Speaker 3: place among very high planning mentalities in the government and
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Speaker 3: in the United States system of Engineering and sciences. Very quietly.
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Speaker 3: They were all saying, you know, we need to see
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Speaker 3: if we can catch one of these things and use
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Speaker 3: it for reverse engineering and build better, better equipment ourselves
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Speaker 3: and the government, as we all know any of us
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Speaker 3: who read note, the government has programs launched to they
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Speaker 3: see if they can find any little scraps crash to UFOs.
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Speaker 2: Bob Blazar right, his whole story, that's right. He's a
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Speaker 2: physicist claiming to work on those exact things. That s four.
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Speaker 3: So next question is, as a Christian, how do I
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Speaker 3: take this. Does a Bible talk about UFOs? Certainly it does,
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Speaker 3: and the UFOs are things that fly in the sky
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Speaker 3: that are not necessarily friendly, and they're called fallen angels,
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Speaker 3: and they haven't changed. They may change their appearance slightly,
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Speaker 3: but there's the same guys they used to be thousands
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Speaker 3: of years ago when they rebelled, they came down to earth.
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Speaker 3: The rebellion is ill on. Satan is still air leader.
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Speaker 3: He told Jesus while Jesus was alive, I control all
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Speaker 3: of this down here, and and you know what, I'll
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Speaker 3: give it to you if you will just kind of
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Speaker 3: concede a couple of things to me, Jesus. And we
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Speaker 3: all remember that. And what was Satan doing. He was
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Speaker 3: observing the entire earth. He has his fallen ones and
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Speaker 3: they circulate around the Earth doing what he wants to do.
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Speaker 3: And that's the Christian point of view of UFOs, if
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Speaker 3: you will, unidentified flying or as they're called now UAPs.
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Speaker 2: Right, this is the hard part, because we believe that
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Speaker 2: that UFOs are real. That that that they say phenomenon
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Speaker 2: now and that's a very I think it's a word
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Speaker 2: that they use it to equivocate, to change right in
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Speaker 2: the middle. When you say phenomenon versus object, object implies
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Speaker 2: something tangible physical right where unidentified aerial phenoms. The word phenomenon,
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Speaker 2: the very definition of the word has the idea of
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Speaker 2: something that is by appearance. It might not be real,
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Speaker 2: but that's the way it appears to you. So that's there.
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Speaker 2: They're switching it right in the middle of the game,
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Speaker 2: exactly denying the idea of a physical, tangible object. So
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Speaker 2: we believe that these objects are real. We're not saying
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Speaker 2: that we know and have all of the answers to
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Speaker 2: who is exactly piloting. We do believe that they're physical.
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Speaker 2: There have been physical things found, there's been reports. As
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Speaker 2: we discussed in that DVD set, the ways in which
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Speaker 2: the government is acknowledging having the having these things, as
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Speaker 2: well as creating these these new departments. One of them
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Speaker 2: is the AAR, the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, founded
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Speaker 2: in July twenty twenty two to detect, identify, and attribute
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Speaker 2: objects of interest in on military installations, operating areas, training areas,
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Speaker 2: special use airspace, and other areas of interest. So they've
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Speaker 2: created these new departments in order to communicate. But the
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Speaker 2: Pentagon chief coming out at this time talking about alien motherships,
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Speaker 2: I think is a wag the dog scenario. It's able.
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Speaker 2: There were several other articles that came out in the
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Speaker 2: last month or two all of a sudden, like wow,
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the government, the current administration is
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Speaker 2: talking about these objects, even though they've been talking about
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Speaker 2: the last couple of years. But it's like a slurry
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Speaker 2: of articles came out and you're like, why are these
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Speaker 2: guys talking about it? I think it's a little bit
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Speaker 2: of trying, as it says here, to distract from the
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Speaker 2: Chinese balloon incident. But it does go back to the
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Speaker 2: question of we believe these are real and as Christians
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Speaker 2: should we have a biblical response?
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Speaker 3: And I believe so. And I've written a few articles
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Speaker 3: over the years about this and the fact that UFOs
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Speaker 3: are seen all the time, or ups as they're called now,
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Speaker 3: to make it certain that you can't put your thumb
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Speaker 3: on it and say that's a UFO. A UAP is
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Speaker 3: an unidentified aerial phenomenon which covers a multitude of sins.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a distraction. We can stick with UFO because
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Speaker 2: we know what we mean by it.
21:24
Speaker 3: We do. Yeah, And those flying objects occurring to Pentagon
21:30
Speaker 3: come and go out of parent craft big as we
21:33
Speaker 3: would call the Mother Show.
21:34
Speaker 2: That's the theory that they're saying here, that's exactly right.
21:37
Speaker 2: And you're like, even guys watching you think this is
21:39
Speaker 2: so outlandish. I'm not saying I would even necessarily disagree
21:43
Speaker 2: with it. This makes sense, But why, it's just interesting
21:46
Speaker 2: to me that they're talking about this, this parent mothership,
21:51
Speaker 2: Like that's the first we've heard about a mothership from
21:54
Speaker 2: the Pentagon.
21:55
Speaker 3: Well, what I believe they're doing is putting a secular
21:59
Speaker 3: gloss over what is a spiritual situation. And I have
22:05
Speaker 3: my Bible open to Ephesians six here, and I'll start
22:08
Speaker 3: in the twelfth verse, and it says for the resta
22:14
Speaker 3: not against flesh and blood, but against principalities. That's one group.
22:18
Speaker 3: Against powers, that's another group. Against the rulers of darkness
22:23
Speaker 3: in this world. That would be still another group. I
22:25
Speaker 3: think these are descending orders of command, that's the way
22:29
Speaker 3: I read this. Against spiritual wickedness in high places. Now
22:33
Speaker 3: what would that be? That would be I think what
22:36
Speaker 3: we call demons. Right, So you have Satan and you
22:39
Speaker 3: have his principal angels fallen with well yeah yeah, and
22:43
Speaker 3: you have a group of people under them, and then
22:45
Speaker 3: you have the demons and the devils that roam the world,
22:50
Speaker 3: and that's what the Bible calls UAPs, and I believe that.
22:55
Speaker 3: I don't think they're from some galaxy far far away.
22:58
Speaker 3: But the fiction has been built back. H. G. Wells
23:03
Speaker 3: had a Martian invasion of the world and we killed
23:06
Speaker 3: the Martians and Tadah were victorious. You have Star Trek
23:11
Speaker 3: Captain Kirk and his group, which grew to a massive
23:16
Speaker 3: collection of motion pictures that are all propaganda pieces. They're
23:20
Speaker 3: designed to say, hey, we have an aerial battle against
23:24
Speaker 3: good and evil, but the good is on our side
23:27
Speaker 3: and we'll win. And then you have Galaxy Quest, which
23:30
Speaker 3: remember the comedian, Yes, absolutely the galaxy. The people in
23:35
Speaker 3: the Galaxy Quest, aliens who live far far away, worshiped earthlings.
23:43
Speaker 3: They just thought we could walk on water. And it
23:47
Speaker 3: was again one of the propaganda pieces designed to build
23:50
Speaker 3: the subliminal idea that space travel is going on out
23:54
Speaker 3: there all the time, and there are good space travelers
23:58
Speaker 3: and there are bad ones, and we need to go
24:00
Speaker 3: get connected with the good ones. The Bible doesn't say that,
24:03
Speaker 3: it says there's a group, one group, principalities and powers,
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Speaker 3: rooms of darkness, and I don't believe there's a good
24:10
Speaker 3: guy group, and so that's what we're dealing. I wanted
24:13
Speaker 3: to get that kind of leveled out before we go
24:16
Speaker 3: back to what the Pentagon says.
24:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's true because the see here again we
24:21
Speaker 2: were talking about this on previous podcasts that we need discernment.
24:25
Speaker 2: We need a lot of discernment where the Bible. You
24:29
Speaker 2: see this article the Pentagon's time, these guys are talking
24:31
Speaker 2: about motherships. I just think, why are they talking about
24:34
Speaker 2: it now? I see it as a distraction, taking away
24:37
Speaker 2: from the reality. Many people will look at it and
24:41
Speaker 2: would maybe mock it. But we've already talked about again
24:44
Speaker 2: in our DVD set. I just was reading from congressional records,
24:49
Speaker 2: congressional bills. They're spending money to create all these systems.
24:52
Speaker 2: So there's a narrative that's going on behind the scenes
24:55
Speaker 2: that is a real narrative that we think potentially are
24:58
Speaker 2: most likely would be used at the end of the
25:01
Speaker 2: age as a deception. And we want to say, hey,
25:05
Speaker 2: any other group that's from any other place, allegedly if
25:11
Speaker 2: they come with a message of being our saviors. You
25:14
Speaker 2: see this in the astronomy world. Astrobiology, you can get
25:17
Speaker 2: PhDs in that where they're looking for pantsapremia, that these
25:21
Speaker 2: other beings evolved somewhere else and they came and implanted
25:26
Speaker 2: us here. And you're like, that just kicks the can
25:28
Speaker 2: down the road. Who created them? They had to come
25:30
Speaker 2: from somewhere because we know that evolution does not work
25:33
Speaker 2: by any means. That's been proven over in chemistry and
25:37
Speaker 2: as well as bio biology. In that regard, they have
25:40
Speaker 2: no idea how you get life from non organic life
25:42
Speaker 2: in a way that's proven. But let's let let me
25:45
Speaker 2: let's use this as a jumping block to another topic
25:48
Speaker 2: that comes up because you you you read Ephesians chapter
25:54
Speaker 2: six and talking about principalities and powers that we don't
25:58
Speaker 2: have this wrestling. But let's our demons. This is a
26:02
Speaker 2: question that comes up, and it's a good question, our
26:05
Speaker 2: demons fallen angels.
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Speaker 3: Well without going into a lot of details, No.
26:10
Speaker 2: We got time, let's go into detail here. That's why
26:12
Speaker 2: I'm asking you.
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Speaker 3: You know, that's a that's a big questions. Let's talk
26:15
Speaker 3: about huge So in my mind I'm saying, how can
26:18
Speaker 3: I keep this under an hour? But to answer it
26:22
Speaker 3: quickly to me, a fallen angel is literally one of
26:27
Speaker 3: the of of those powers Bible calls and principalities, and
26:33
Speaker 3: they are co regent with Satan. Controlling the world system
26:38
Speaker 3: today is generals. Basically, generals are the next level of
26:44
Speaker 3: command below Satan, and the powers would be those commanded.
26:52
Speaker 3: And I believe they fly ships all over the surface
26:54
Speaker 3: of the world, but they're invisible. They're in a slightly
26:57
Speaker 3: different dimension. We know hyperdimension now exists. The Bible talks
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Speaker 3: about it. Paul said, you know, I knew a man
27:04
Speaker 3: who went to the Third Heaven, and I can't tell
27:06
Speaker 3: you what he saw there, but boy, you should know.
27:09
Speaker 3: And then I came back. No, no, he came back.
27:14
Speaker 3: He didn't give away anything. I wish he would have,
27:16
Speaker 3: but I wish he would have. But we live in
27:20
Speaker 3: a hyper dimensional world, hyper space. And when I say that,
27:24
Speaker 3: I mean that the principalities and powers can make themselves
27:28
Speaker 3: visible if they want to. And the whole history of
27:31
Speaker 3: the world is full of that. And even the newspapers
27:34
Speaker 3: today we have occasional news articles about so and so
27:37
Speaker 3: who appeared to so and so and then he disappeared
27:41
Speaker 3: and so. Having established that, the next thing we need
27:44
Speaker 3: to say is that we live in a hyper dimensional world,
27:50
Speaker 3: and that's what the scientists would call it. But we
27:54
Speaker 3: who read the Bible think of heaven and earth, and
27:59
Speaker 3: the heavens have kind of multiple layers, if you will,
28:03
Speaker 3: of dimensionality. And that's why these UFOs I believe are
28:08
Speaker 3: angelic chariots. In fact, similar to the one that appeared
28:11
Speaker 3: to Ezekiel Ezekiel chapters one through three, and and it
28:16
Speaker 3: was a whirling a whirlwind of fire that came and
28:18
Speaker 3: landed in front of it. And then when it landed
28:21
Speaker 3: it became a very complex ship, you can only call
28:25
Speaker 3: it a ship. And it had an interaction with Ezekiel,
28:31
Speaker 3: and then later on it took off and presumably became
28:35
Speaker 3: a wheel of fire again, and the profits they all
28:38
Speaker 3: went aloft. In chariots of fire. He's like Eliga.
28:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, kings too, I mean cheriot of fire. Like what
28:46
Speaker 2: in the world.
28:46
Speaker 3: Okay, chariots are made of wood, they have woods and folks.
28:49
Speaker 3: Wouldn't those burn up?
28:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not. There's something something deeper, for sure.
28:54
Speaker 3: But it's called the Bible a chariot of fire. And
28:57
Speaker 3: he lifted up in his chariot of fire and into
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Speaker 3: another dimension. And later on he appears in the Bible
29:05
Speaker 3: in a visible way. So he's hyperdimensional too, if you
29:09
Speaker 3: want to call it that. And so I believe the Bible,
29:12
Speaker 3: believe in Christians should be in their thinking hyperdimensional, like
29:16
Speaker 3: we live on this earth, but there are other dimensions
29:19
Speaker 3: that play into our destiny, and we as Christians should
29:24
Speaker 3: operate within the knowledge that we're at the lowest dimension
29:30
Speaker 3: dimensional scale, and that we pray through to the Lord
29:36
Speaker 3: God who is at the top level. He's the Creator,
29:40
Speaker 3: the Redeemer. But he has allowed enemies of man to
29:46
Speaker 3: encircle the earth day and night twenty four to seven
29:49
Speaker 3: and do their evil work. And we have that right
29:52
Speaker 3: here in Ephesians and many other books of the Bible.
29:55
Speaker 3: And so we've got to get our minds off of
29:57
Speaker 3: alpha centuryarticular reticular and spaceships like in this article that
30:06
Speaker 3: we're looking at.
30:08
Speaker 2: UH.
30:09
Speaker 3: There's a little explanation here of of how NASA and
30:15
Speaker 3: the government views all this. UH. These out of this
30:19
Speaker 3: world assertions stem from the discovery of an unusual space
30:23
Speaker 3: object which was seen in a telescope about a football
30:27
Speaker 3: field in length, was found to be orbiting the Sun
30:29
Speaker 3: six years ago, and it was dubbed if you can
30:34
Speaker 3: pronounce that by the astronomical community.
30:37
Speaker 2: It's real. It was a real object. It was real,
30:39
Speaker 2: that was big, it was weird looking.
30:41
Speaker 3: It's being used as a device to say that, look,
30:48
Speaker 3: that may have been an observation craft. And our friends
30:52
Speaker 3: are coming closer and we hiding behind it, hiding behind it,
30:57
Speaker 3: and they are positing all of these events as friendly. Well,
31:02
Speaker 3: our friend La Marzouli would have something else to say
31:06
Speaker 3: about that, because he's talked to many abductees, Yeah, and
31:10
Speaker 3: has produced several films about what happens to people and
31:15
Speaker 3: who come in contact with these whatever they are, Yeah, whatever,
31:19
Speaker 3: they are principalities and powers, and it's not pretty, it's demonic. Yeah.
31:24
Speaker 3: And so to conclude, and you can react to this
31:28
Speaker 3: any way you want to. To conclude, I would say
31:31
Speaker 3: that I'm not praying to the principalities and powers now,
31:35
Speaker 3: praying to the Lord God, who is opposed by the
31:40
Speaker 3: principalities and power.
31:41
Speaker 2: That's a great word, because you know, the question is
31:44
Speaker 2: our demon's fallen angels, And I think you you laid
31:46
Speaker 2: it out well that the answers know that aim. The
31:49
Speaker 2: fallen angels are this very very they're the generals. These
31:55
Speaker 2: guys are these guys are very they're in an upper class.
31:58
Speaker 2: They're in a very well known They're called sons of
32:01
Speaker 2: God and others. There's good sons of God and there's
32:03
Speaker 2: fallen sons of God that have fell, like Genesis six
32:05
Speaker 2: we've talked about, but you have as well. These I
32:09
Speaker 2: like the word taxonomy, this this classification of spiritual beings,
32:14
Speaker 2: which demons are at the bottom of the bottom, because
32:17
Speaker 2: according to what we would understand, demons are court least
32:22
Speaker 2: according to the Book of Enoch. The Bible does not
32:24
Speaker 2: specifically say when you come to the New Testament and
32:28
Speaker 2: you see diemonion, these demons, these that Jesus is casting
32:32
Speaker 2: out that are possessing humans. The Bible doesn't give us
32:34
Speaker 2: a very clear understanding of their origination. But what is
32:39
Speaker 2: interesting is is first going to our first you know,
32:42
Speaker 2: fifteen describes that when the nepheleine, these these half these hybrids,
32:48
Speaker 2: half human from women and half angelic, fallen angelic when
32:52
Speaker 2: they're born and they die in the flood, their spirit
32:56
Speaker 2: goes on and they they they their their bodies dead,
32:59
Speaker 2: but they're spirits. Where do their spirits go? Well, according
33:03
Speaker 2: to some other intertestamental books which you can not scripture.
33:07
Speaker 2: They their spirits continue to go on, and they're the
33:10
Speaker 2: unclean spirits. They're the demons that that are that plague
33:14
Speaker 2: mankind from the flood onward. Because you don't really see
33:17
Speaker 2: any of that. But they're the bottom of the bottom
33:19
Speaker 2: because they're they're half they're not fully angelic, and but
33:23
Speaker 2: they're half humans. So there's really no place for them.
33:25
Speaker 2: But they are not the same level of class as
33:28
Speaker 2: these these angels or these other beings, these principalities and powers,
33:31
Speaker 2: so we would say no. But the other thing I
33:33
Speaker 2: find interesting is the Bible doesn't ever say that besides
33:41
Speaker 2: maybe the chair beam or the serapheme, those are the
33:43
Speaker 2: only two classes, and I think they're a really high
33:45
Speaker 2: class of spiritual being. Doesn't say any other moloc the
33:50
Speaker 2: word moloch angel has wings. It just says you do
33:54
Speaker 2: see them flu and you use the word opposition. Now, Daniel,
33:58
Speaker 2: chapter ten, you know this passage, but for those that don't,
34:02
Speaker 2: Daniel's praying, His prayers are going up. He gets a response,
34:07
Speaker 2: an angel is dispatched. He shows up three weeks later
34:12
Speaker 2: and says, hey, Daniel, from the moment that you prayed,
34:16
Speaker 2: God heard you, and I was sent to answer you.
34:18
Speaker 2: But I got rebuffed. I got opposed by these other princes.
34:23
Speaker 2: I got opposed by the Prince of Persia. This other
34:26
Speaker 2: what we would call in the Old Testament the word prince,
34:28
Speaker 2: is this fallen angelic type being sons of God, I
34:31
Speaker 2: would say our watcher. Maybe that's a whole other group
34:35
Speaker 2: in that one sense. But I came here and Michael
34:37
Speaker 2: had to come help me. Michael, the chief prince, who's
34:39
Speaker 2: like a chief archangel, he had to come help me
34:42
Speaker 2: to get the answer. So there is this war, this opposition.
34:47
Speaker 2: And if we want to say that they're simply just spiritual.
34:49
Speaker 3: And where is the war?
34:51
Speaker 2: Where is the war? How did he get opposed? Did
34:53
Speaker 2: he couldn't he just go around him? There had to
34:56
Speaker 2: be some level of I wouldn't say physical, but that
35:00
Speaker 2: my mind can only go there. There's some sort of
35:02
Speaker 2: real opposition where the angel couldn't actually get to Daniel.
35:06
Speaker 3: And we don't know about the spirit world, correct the
35:09
Speaker 3: Bible talks about it, but we can't visualize it. But
35:13
Speaker 3: apparently around this world there is another dimension that supports demons,
35:21
Speaker 3: principal rulers following.
35:24
Speaker 2: Non human whatever spiritual beings.
35:26
Speaker 3: Spiritual beings whatever you want to call and there are
35:30
Speaker 3: good ones and there are bad ones, and there's a
35:31
Speaker 3: war going on. Okay, at this point we could have
35:35
Speaker 3: a debate, why is this going on? Why is this
35:38
Speaker 3: allowed to happen? Why didn't God just destroy all the
35:40
Speaker 3: bad guys? Because things have to be done in a
35:45
Speaker 3: certain order, and if there's anybody who's orderly in the
35:48
Speaker 3: whole universe, it's our God. And so his order stands.
35:54
Speaker 3: And there will be a series of battles, and we
35:57
Speaker 3: read about those in Revelation, and in the end all
36:03
Speaker 3: of the rebels will be jailed. Some of them are now,
36:07
Speaker 3: some of them are now. The apostle Peter wrote about
36:09
Speaker 3: that he and some of them are in jail now
36:12
Speaker 3: and apparently in caverns and chambers under the earth, that's
36:16
Speaker 3: what it says. Some of them have the ability to
36:20
Speaker 3: fly around the planet in hyperspace. Call it that. There's
36:25
Speaker 3: what other word do we have? And then some of
36:29
Speaker 3: them never fell. They're on God's side, but they're still
36:33
Speaker 3: circulating around. And just like the examples from Daniel, there's
36:37
Speaker 3: an occasional fight yep, that goes on in the sky.
36:42
Speaker 3: And I think maybe I've always thought that we may
36:44
Speaker 3: catch glimpses of that. Some people that report odd lights
36:49
Speaker 3: flickering and colliding and moving in and out, and it
36:54
Speaker 3: looks exactly like that they're opposing each other. Yep, So
36:59
Speaker 3: maybe we glimpse of those fights every now.
37:02
Speaker 2: It's true, and I think Ephesian six is very clear
37:05
Speaker 2: that that as believers we have been we are, we
37:10
Speaker 2: are in a supremely powerful position of being, having God
37:14
Speaker 2: as our father, that we are in this wrestling match
37:17
Speaker 2: and pulses. We don't wrestle, as you right, we don't wrestle.
37:19
Speaker 2: Our wrestling match is not against flesh and blood, but
37:21
Speaker 2: against these hosts. So we don't we shouldn't get caught
37:26
Speaker 2: up too much in the human element, but recognize that
37:28
Speaker 2: as we pray that we are like Daniel chapter ten,
37:33
Speaker 2: we are having this. We're participating in this war to
37:36
Speaker 2: see God's will brought in. God invites us to participate
37:39
Speaker 2: into accomplishing His will down in this earth and h
37:44
Speaker 2: and and how those other beings showed themselves in the heavens.
37:49
Speaker 2: We do know Ephesian six in the heavenly places. It
37:52
Speaker 2: says that crystal clear. So so we watched these other
37:56
Speaker 2: UFO type phenomenon which we don't know exactly. Are we
38:00
Speaker 2: getting glimpses into some things? Maybe? But I want to
38:03
Speaker 2: ask you this because we often hear that the UFOs,
38:10
Speaker 2: and I would generally and I think you would too,
38:12
Speaker 2: generally lean towards most often they are most often the
38:17
Speaker 2: bad guys. But talk about your experience, if you don't mind,
38:22
Speaker 2: where you had some interesting things happen with a UFO
38:28
Speaker 2: which didn't cause you any harm at all, but most
38:33
Speaker 2: likely was a good guy.
38:34
Speaker 3: So, and I've always told my friends that I'm here
38:37
Speaker 3: today because of an angelic intercession. But I used to
38:41
Speaker 3: work in aircraft, and I flew quite often on business.
38:45
Speaker 3: And I was flying a rather large airplane at one
38:47
Speaker 3: point and delivering some meeting materials to a company of
38:55
Speaker 3: an aircraft company down in Dallas, and then from Dallas,
38:58
Speaker 3: I was going to fly to Love and deliver the
39:01
Speaker 3: rest of the meeting materials so they could have a
39:03
Speaker 3: sales meeting there. And on the way, I had an
39:09
Speaker 3: electrical total electrical failure in the airplane. Everything went off
39:12
Speaker 3: boot like that brand new airplane.
39:15
Speaker 2: During the day too, during the day, so brand new
39:17
Speaker 2: airplane during the day.
39:18
Speaker 3: Yes, And so I shut down all the electrical switches
39:24
Speaker 3: and just say, well, I'm going to go on engine
39:26
Speaker 3: ignition power only, which I did, and I'm headed for
39:30
Speaker 3: my headed for my destination, but still worried. Can something
39:39
Speaker 3: else fail? Am I going to make it? And do
39:43
Speaker 3: I have enough battery power to make a landing? Get
39:45
Speaker 3: the gear down? So forth and soul And I'm thinking
39:48
Speaker 3: these thoughts and I suddenly heard a voice, a very
39:53
Speaker 3: reassuring voice. By the way, I'll never forget it. And
39:56
Speaker 3: it said to me, if you look to your left,
40:00
Speaker 3: you'll see a u f oh, And that's exactly the one.
40:04
Speaker 2: And I was a little bit humorous.
40:05
Speaker 3: Maybe it was humorous, and so in my I reacted
40:09
Speaker 3: by holding gripping the wheel and looking straight ahead. And
40:13
Speaker 3: I said to myself, I'm not going to look to
40:14
Speaker 3: my left because I don't know what I'll see. Mind you,
40:20
Speaker 3: my radios are all.
40:21
Speaker 2: Did your heart flitter a little bit? Didn't get nervous?
40:24
Speaker 2: Like what did I does?
40:25
Speaker 1: That?
40:25
Speaker 2: Were you wondering whether you really heard something?
40:28
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you the truth now. And it was
40:31
Speaker 3: years before I told this because it sounds so bizarre.
40:34
Speaker 3: So I'm flying, and about a minute later I heard
40:37
Speaker 3: the same voice. It sounds like a tour guide. If
40:40
Speaker 3: you look to your left, you'll see a u F Oh,
40:44
Speaker 3: so I all right, I'm going to look to my
40:46
Speaker 3: and I looked to my left, and about a mile
40:49
Speaker 3: to my off my left wing was a bright light
40:52
Speaker 3: and I said, that's not a UFO. That's got to
40:54
Speaker 3: be the sun shining off another airplane reflecting. So I
40:58
Speaker 3: watched it for a while. It flew it was flying
41:00
Speaker 3: in the same direction I was. And then I said
41:09
Speaker 3: to myself, but out loud, almost even though I'm alone
41:13
Speaker 3: in the airplane, I said, wow. I looked at it,
41:17
Speaker 3: and it flew under a cloud and it was still
41:20
Speaker 3: just as bright as before, and I said, that is
41:22
Speaker 3: a UFO. And as soon as I said that, it,
41:26
Speaker 3: in a matter of like three or four seconds, it
41:28
Speaker 3: covered a mile and right off my left wind.
41:31
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
41:32
Speaker 3: It's about one hundred and fifty feet in diameter and
41:34
Speaker 3: about ten feet thick, and it was beautiful, that most
41:37
Speaker 3: beautiful thing I've ever seen. It flew in formation with
41:41
Speaker 3: me all the way to my destination.
41:43
Speaker 2: What did it look like? Describe it?
41:45
Speaker 3: It was about ten fifteen feet thick, and it had
41:48
Speaker 3: a bevel around the edges. And with some little what
41:51
Speaker 3: looked like metallic connections.
41:53
Speaker 2: He was it like disc shaped kind of shape? Disc shaped, Okay,
41:57
Speaker 2: so the typical disc shaped.
41:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it had a light in the top.
42:01
Speaker 2: Of it, on the top top, on the top.
42:03
Speaker 3: Surface at four or five feet in diameter, and little
42:07
Speaker 3: radial lights that came out from it. I just take
42:09
Speaker 3: a long time to describe it. But it was beautiful,
42:13
Speaker 3: and I thought, that is amazing. It's the most amazing
42:16
Speaker 3: thing I've ever seen. So I I wanted to get
42:19
Speaker 3: closer so I can see it better. So I scooted
42:22
Speaker 3: the airplane to the left to get closer to it,
42:26
Speaker 3: and it backed off.
42:27
Speaker 2: It didn't want me to It didn't want you close.
42:29
Speaker 3: It didn't want me close. And I could tell the
42:33
Speaker 3: rest of the story, which takes a long time, except
42:36
Speaker 3: that I know because of what they found at Lubbock, Texas,
42:41
Speaker 3: at the airport Assesstin Dealership, they had no fewer than
42:45
Speaker 3: seven mechanics around the engine on this airplane because something
42:50
Speaker 3: really bizarre had happened. Well, so you so because we
42:55
Speaker 3: cannot happen.
42:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have. We have a few minutes here in
42:58
Speaker 2: this particular segment, so you you see this you're traveling.
43:02
Speaker 2: How long do you do? Say it was? It was
43:04
Speaker 2: traveling with you h hour and a half. So there
43:07
Speaker 2: it is hour and a half right there, just kind
43:09
Speaker 2: of guiding you because your your electronics had got out
43:13
Speaker 2: and you hear this voice. You you tried to get
43:15
Speaker 2: a little closer for it moved back. He moved back
43:17
Speaker 2: to the previous position.
43:18
Speaker 3: Uh no, well it did, and it didn't. It moved
43:22
Speaker 3: back a bit, and then it moved back to its
43:24
Speaker 3: previous position, and then it came closer again later on. Okay,
43:28
Speaker 3: so it was flying independently, and but I got this
43:33
Speaker 3: great feeling that everything was okay.
43:36
Speaker 2: So no evil feelings, no darkness, no darkness, no evil
43:40
Speaker 2: the opposite.
43:40
Speaker 3: In fact, this thing, I believe it saved my life
43:43
Speaker 3: quite frankly, because I made a successful landing at Lubbock,
43:46
Speaker 3: Texas and that was that.
43:50
Speaker 2: So so let's so let's get into some of those
43:52
Speaker 2: details in the sense of so you land Lubbock, you land,
43:54
Speaker 2: you you're fine, Yeah, you pull up, you come up,
43:58
Speaker 2: you go to the hangar. Who meets you there?
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Speaker 3: The manager of the airport met me. They head of
44:06
Speaker 3: the aircraft department there, and he was angry because I
44:12
Speaker 3: was supposed to be there two hours earlier or more. Oh,
44:17
Speaker 3: I had told him I'd be there at a certain time.
44:19
Speaker 2: So he's waiting, basically waiting and.
44:21
Speaker 3: Waiting and waiting and waiting. When I taxied up to
44:24
Speaker 3: that airport, that dealership, I could still look back to
44:29
Speaker 3: the east and see that little UFO up there hanging
44:33
Speaker 3: around until I went inside the dealers really okay, and
44:38
Speaker 3: tried to make friends with the dealer because I was
44:41
Speaker 3: so late.
44:42
Speaker 2: Did you know you were late? Yet?
44:44
Speaker 3: I lost sort of a sense of time, I must,
44:47
Speaker 3: So you.
44:47
Speaker 2: Show up thinking everything's normal, and then he says, what
44:50
Speaker 2: are you doing?
44:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you didn't.
44:52
Speaker 2: Realize, well, what do you mean when I'm exactly So
44:55
Speaker 2: you had kind of a revelation based on his response
44:58
Speaker 2: that there was some law time.
45:00
Speaker 3: Right, And then we could talk a lot about what
45:03
Speaker 3: happened to the airplane and how they got it back
45:05
Speaker 3: flying again. But that's another big story, okay, but it
45:09
Speaker 3: transcends reality because all the mechanics working on that airplane said,
45:14
Speaker 3: this cannot happen.
45:15
Speaker 2: Because here we have here, we have a brand new plane,
45:17
Speaker 2: bran new, you know, which is what's considered a brand
45:20
Speaker 2: new plane, A couple hundred hours or less five hundred hours.
45:23
Speaker 3: Had about nine or ten hours.
45:24
Speaker 2: Nine or ten hours. And so was this a plane
45:27
Speaker 2: that you flew all the time?
45:29
Speaker 3: Flew it many times?
45:30
Speaker 2: So like the previous nine hours? Was was that all
45:32
Speaker 2: you flying?
45:33
Speaker 3: That was other people? Other people? I see?
45:35
Speaker 2: So you show up this new plane and the and
45:38
Speaker 2: so did you How did you explain to them, Hey guys,
45:41
Speaker 2: the electrical issues are going. What was how did that
45:44
Speaker 2: conversation go?
45:46
Speaker 3: That's about as far as it went. Electrical failure. They
45:50
Speaker 3: put it in the hangar and started to look at it,
45:51
Speaker 3: and without going into detail, they found something that has
45:55
Speaker 3: something had gone wrong that can't possibly.
45:59
Speaker 2: Go wrong, like savage, Yes, really.
46:03
Speaker 3: Like something happened that caused a breakdown, mechanical breakdown. And I,
46:11
Speaker 3: again without elaborating, I think it was an evil force
46:15
Speaker 3: that did that. And I was saved by the if
46:19
Speaker 3: you will, like Guardian.
46:20
Speaker 2: Age Guardian Yeah, I mean, which you know the So I.
46:23
Speaker 3: That's my background with UFOs. It was a wonderful background.
46:28
Speaker 2: So here you have a a what you saw was
46:32
Speaker 2: and this is this is important for people because something physical.
46:37
Speaker 2: This wasn't just a light. You actually saw metallic, a
46:42
Speaker 2: physical object.
46:43
Speaker 3: It became physical, but it could disappear as well, right right, So,
46:48
Speaker 3: but it was when I was close to it, it
46:50
Speaker 3: was physical.
46:51
Speaker 2: See that's important because most of the time people say,
46:53
Speaker 2: oh I saw this thing up in the sky, it
46:54
Speaker 2: was a lie, And you go, well, maybe you saw venus.
46:56
Speaker 2: Whatever you saw reflection, you saw a reflection off of
46:59
Speaker 2: another maybe airplane. But you're what your experience is. Two
47:04
Speaker 2: things that I walk away with. Number One, No, this
47:08
Speaker 2: wasn't just a light refracting or diffraction or what did
47:12
Speaker 2: you know, scattering. This was a real object. Secondly, this
47:17
Speaker 2: was one of the good guys.
47:19
Speaker 3: Yes. Absolutely, You'll never convince me otherwise. It was an
47:23
Speaker 3: angel and it knew me. And I can't even explain
47:28
Speaker 3: to you how I knew that. But deep in my
47:31
Speaker 3: inner being, I sensed that I was in the in
47:34
Speaker 3: the company of a friend. Yeah, this guy, he's my friend.
47:38
Speaker 2: He was out, he was looking out for you, he.
47:39
Speaker 3: Was looking out for me something that happened to my airplane,
47:42
Speaker 3: and he was helping me along. Now, even now, as
47:48
Speaker 3: I tell this story, I'm getting emotional inside, and one
47:52
Speaker 3: of my emotions is wow. I hate to tell this
47:56
Speaker 3: story because people will think I'm crazy. You know.
48:00
Speaker 2: Well, I think you're blowing people's minds in the sense
48:03
Speaker 2: of expanding their horizon, because we have scripture to back
48:07
Speaker 2: us up here in the sense of Matthew eighteen ten
48:09
Speaker 2: talk talking about Jesus himself talking about angels protecting personally
48:15
Speaker 2: human beings. We have Hebrews one fourteen that angels are
48:19
Speaker 2: ministering spirits to those who inherit salvation, which are believers.
48:23
Speaker 2: So we have scripture Hebrews Starching two that sometimes we
48:27
Speaker 2: see angels unaware there were watching them. They're physical, but
48:30
Speaker 2: we've entertained angels unaware. So you have these scriptures that
48:33
Speaker 2: if people just open the Bible and they're willing to
48:35
Speaker 2: be honest, they're gonna go nothing that Gary said is unbiblical.
48:40
Speaker 2: In fact, we have scripture to back up everything that
48:43
Speaker 2: you did bring up, which to me is tremendously comforting.
48:47
Speaker 2: And the fact that you had this comforting feeling of
48:49
Speaker 2: a friend.
48:50
Speaker 3: Oh yes, I'll never forget that. It was just peace
48:54
Speaker 3: like I've never experienced it before. But again, I have
48:59
Speaker 3: to say this, this is sort of where the story
49:02
Speaker 3: comes together. I had planned on being in aviation the
49:06
Speaker 3: rest of my life. I'd been in aviation since I
49:08
Speaker 3: was a kid.
49:10
Speaker 2: You're Steerman for crying out loud.
49:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, Steerman planes, right, And everybody I knew flew airplanes,
49:16
Speaker 3: and I've got my license at age sixteen. I mean,
49:19
Speaker 3: it was my world. And right after this happened, this event,
49:25
Speaker 3: I came back. I had received Christ by that time,
49:29
Speaker 3: but I was not serious about Christ. I was a Christian,
49:34
Speaker 3: go to church when it was convenient, you know, and
49:36
Speaker 3: I've loved the idea of Christianity, but I was not
49:39
Speaker 3: what you would call a really serious Christian until this happened.
49:44
Speaker 3: And suddenly I said to myself, what's my life all about?
49:49
Speaker 3: What am I doing? And I began. The Lord began
49:53
Speaker 3: to pour information into me, and I began to study again,
49:58
Speaker 3: as I never had anything biblical, historical, eschatological, to use
50:06
Speaker 3: the big word, anything I could study and that led
50:10
Speaker 3: me to the life that I have lived since, not
50:14
Speaker 3: preaching for the Lord, writing teaching because I believe that
50:19
Speaker 3: the Lord and his angels surround this world and they're stronger,
50:24
Speaker 3: They're more powerful than the devil and his angels. Yeah,
50:27
Speaker 3: even though there's a fight going on, we're on the
50:30
Speaker 3: good side. We're on the powerful side. I'm live here
50:33
Speaker 3: today because of that, and that's how real it is
50:36
Speaker 3: to me.
50:36
Speaker 2: Yep, And again we go back to Scripture and what
50:41
Speaker 2: we were describing earlier. In the Sense of Revelation, chapter twelve.
50:44
Speaker 2: You have Michael and his angels fighting against Satan and
50:46
Speaker 2: his angels fighting, and they're fighting somewhere. Daniel ten is
50:50
Speaker 2: a great this angel had to get help from Michael.
50:54
Speaker 2: There is this real fight. How do they fight? Do
50:57
Speaker 2: they have swords? You know? How to interdimensional? Are they?
51:00
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a literal situation where you have
51:06
Speaker 2: literal opposition, but yet God has given us. We're part
51:11
Speaker 2: of his team and we have the angels there to
51:14
Speaker 2: protect and to guide us. As Scripture says, what a
51:17
Speaker 2: tremendous encouragement. I appreciate you sharing your experience of that
51:22
Speaker 2: because it should give encouragement to us.
51:25
Speaker 3: Well, it certainly does to me, because it's a reality
51:28
Speaker 3: to me. Back to this Pentagon UFO statement that we
51:32
Speaker 3: started with a study is spoken of here by Abraham Loeb,
51:39
Speaker 3: Israeli born theoretician who chairs Harvard University's astronomy department. And
51:45
Speaker 3: these people now are trying to tell us that we
51:48
Speaker 3: have actual space visitors. There's a paragraph here, while most
51:52
Speaker 3: physicists believe the object's trajectory, that was the recent object
51:57
Speaker 3: that passed close to the Earth, of everybody saying well
52:00
Speaker 3: that was thank you. He says that this is nothing
52:11
Speaker 3: out of the ordinary. Abraham Loeb making this statement public statement.
52:17
Speaker 2: From he's a Harvard teacher.
52:19
Speaker 3: Harvard teacher, and he's speaking on behalf of many scientists
52:24
Speaker 3: in NASA, the government, so forth. And he said, this
52:28
Speaker 3: is nothing out of the ordinary. There are these probes
52:31
Speaker 3: coming to Earth all the time, and they're checking us
52:34
Speaker 3: out to see it will be if it'll be safe
52:36
Speaker 3: to land in ours. They are being depicted by our
52:40
Speaker 3: government as a friendly force coming to Earth. And just
52:44
Speaker 3: like all the wonderful science fiction stories tell us this
52:48
Speaker 3: will be a good and rewarding relationship that we have
52:53
Speaker 3: with our brothers from on high, which is not what
52:56
Speaker 3: the Bible say at all. And so and that's what
53:01
Speaker 3: I've come to over all the years, getting a realistic
53:05
Speaker 3: perspective of what's going on around the world, what's going
53:08
Speaker 3: on around Earth? And have you noticed they're showing themselves
53:12
Speaker 3: more and more, Yeah, showing up in gun cameras on fighters.
53:16
Speaker 4: Absolutely yep.
53:17
Speaker 3: Photographs are being taken.
53:19
Speaker 2: Movies departments are being created, and the government money is
53:23
Speaker 2: being spent on collecting and collating all the information. I
53:27
Speaker 2: think our goal here is to warn people that at
53:31
Speaker 2: the end of the day, whatever being is going to
53:35
Speaker 2: show up, or would show up, or might show up whatever.
53:39
Speaker 2: The first question is always is, look, I don't care
53:44
Speaker 2: what you claim about this, this and this. I don't
53:46
Speaker 2: care how many miracles you might do. The being whatever
53:51
Speaker 2: is Jesus Christ, Lord and Savior of the earth. Yes
53:55
Speaker 2: or no, don't spin me, yes or no. Do I
53:59
Speaker 2: need to put my faith and trust in Jesus Christ
54:01
Speaker 2: a loan for salvation? That is a yes or no question.
54:04
Speaker 2: End of the story, end the story.
54:07
Speaker 3: And of course it's the beginning of the big It
54:09
Speaker 3: really is a big story. And you know, there's an
54:14
Speaker 3: odd there's a strange odd thing that we should have
54:19
Speaker 3: come to before we leave, and that is people talk
54:23
Speaker 3: about cattle and you it's seen all over television newspapers
54:28
Speaker 3: about farmers or ranchers having their cattle kidnapped by UFOs
54:33
Speaker 3: and they swear, yes, sir sheriff, mister sheriff, there was
54:37
Speaker 3: something came down and took one of my prize cattle
54:40
Speaker 3: up and dropped it back to the ground. And when
54:43
Speaker 3: it was dropped to the ground, it was devoid of
54:45
Speaker 3: anything valuable at all. All this blood had been drained.
54:48
Speaker 2: Animals won't touch it, scavengers. It's amazing.
54:51
Speaker 3: This happens all the time. Now, those are evil are evil,
54:55
Speaker 3: and you know what they appear in the Old Testament.
54:58
Speaker 3: If you recall, people used to put out meat offerings
55:03
Speaker 3: and there would be a contest who takes that offering?
55:06
Speaker 3: Is it going to be God or is it going
55:08
Speaker 3: to be some other foreign god that you remember the
55:11
Speaker 3: famous battle of the prophet and and.
55:16
Speaker 4: Who took the who took the offering? It was God
55:20
Speaker 4: that took the offering, the true God, Yeah, the true God.
55:24
Speaker 4: But making meat offerings to the fallen ones is a
55:30
Speaker 4: huge preoccupation historically. It still happens today, making meat offerings
55:35
Speaker 4: to the gods.
55:37
Speaker 2: And this is where again we discussed this. We spent
55:39
Speaker 2: a full you and myself in La spent a full
55:41
Speaker 2: hour on this, delving into the biblical theological FBI store.
55:46
Speaker 2: And this is a real thing with the FBI. They
55:48
Speaker 2: researched it, and we talked about theirs in our in
55:50
Speaker 2: our DVD set. I mean, this is the real deal.
55:53
Speaker 3: It is, it's the real deal. It's it's a battle
55:55
Speaker 3: between the good ones and the bad ones has been
55:57
Speaker 3: going on ever since the days of the Prophet and before,
56:01
Speaker 3: and that battle, Praise the Lord is going to be
56:05
Speaker 3: won by the right people.
56:07
Speaker 2: Yep, Amen, Gary, here we are and this podcast, and
56:10
Speaker 2: we'll end it on that note in the sense of
56:12
Speaker 2: for those watching, there's no reason, if you are a
56:15
Speaker 2: follower of Jesus Christ to have any fear at all.
56:18
Speaker 2: He holds us in his very hands. We have absolute confidence.
56:21
Speaker 2: But we also have the word of God to guide
56:23
Speaker 2: us in this in this age of deception, that when
56:27
Speaker 2: any sort of message comes from any Paul says, whether
56:29
Speaker 2: it's an angel from heaven Galatians one nine, if they
56:33
Speaker 2: have any other message in the Gospel that we know,
56:34
Speaker 2: let them be a cursed. So we stand on the
56:36
Speaker 2: truth of God's word, the truth of Jesus Christ being
56:39
Speaker 2: salvation only.
56:40
Speaker 3: Amen, Amen, Amen, good.
56:43
Speaker 2: News, the good News.
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