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S2 E29: How Luke Skywalker is like Anakin and Padmé · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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Yeah, Blazing Megan. Blazing Megan.
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Blazing Megan? Yes.
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All right, shall we start talking about Luke Skywalker
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now? Yes.
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The topic of the day is how Luke is like Anakin and Padme.
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We've done an episode about Leia in regards to this and now it's
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time to talk about Luke. And I'm so excited because we
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haven't talked about Luke for a really long ass time.
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I know. You know what's crazy is it's
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not crazy. Nothing about what I'm about to
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say is crazy. I was re watching clips from the
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Ahsoka series and only the Luke scenes from Mandalorian and Boba
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Fett. I should have done that.
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Man, I'm telling you, if you haven't seen them in a while,
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like I haven't seen them for a while, they are so good.
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It's so I got my fill. So that's what that was my
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preparation. I had to be, you know, not
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nothing against Mark Hamill, of course he is Luke Skywalker.
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But I was in the mood to like go back and see Rosario as yeah, so
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good. And it kind of just went on from
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there. I want I wanted to see Hayden as
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as Anna I. Was going to say.
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I mean it's. That episode where Luke is
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fighting Hayden again. I just saw a clip of that the
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other day and it's so God damn good.
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It's so it's fucking. Anyway, it's not about these
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three. We're talking about Luke.
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But The thing is, is it reminded me all over again why I love
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Luke so much. And it wasn't even the Mark
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Hamill stuff, which is why I love Luke so much.
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I mean anything Luke Skywalker related, no matter what it is,
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if it's book or whatever it yes, it has to iterate off of Mark
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Hamill. Absolutely, yeah.
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Yep, he's such he is the OG. Like he the the Star Wars theme
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is Luke Skywalker's theme. It is so.
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'Cause he wanted a theme. And didn't George Lucas say,
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excuse me, Mark, hi. John, Star Wars.
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Oh, it was John Williams. OK, It was.
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I knew it was one of the big, the big ones there.
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And he's like, yeah, excuse me, Mark, the theme is your theme.
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That's that's high honor. That's a big, that's a big, big
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honor. Yeah, and that's where your head
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just goes. But then I got immediately sad
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and depressed in Star Wars's pain, because then I started
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thinking about his parents. And that's why we're here today.
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Yeah, I mean, we're here to suffer.
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That's it's our lot in life, as Rapier says.
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Well, where would you like to start?
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I guess we have talked a little bit about how Leia has that very
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visible Anakin kind of fiery temper, and how we've mentioned
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in the pack past that Luke is very much like Padme in a sense.
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But also, I was thinking about that the other day and I was
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thinking how he becomes like Padme, but I think he starts a
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lot like Anakin. Yeah, I agree.
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I think the first thing that has ever stood out to me about Luke
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and how he's like his parents is like the first thing that popped
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into my head. And then I had once I thought
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about it is really is a characteristic of both Padme and
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Anakin. But what started me thinking was
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Padme had a disposition to run to absolutely anyone's aid.
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And I think it became more reserved the older she got in,
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the more into the Senate. She she, her position became,
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you know, like we see Padme in the Clone Wars, how she's a
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little more reserved, but she wants to speak up.
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She has kind of bail to guide her in that respect because he's
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been doing it longer. He's a he's a little bit older.
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She has advisors, she has her her ladies when she's back in
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Naboo. And she is ready to just help
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people. And the thing about Luke,
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especially in the original trilogy, is he's ready to do
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that no matter what. Yeah.
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And then I think about it more and it's like, well, Anakin was
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like that. But the part that Luke shares
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with Anakin is he doesn't really think about it.
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He just wants to go do it. So there's that haughtiness like
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that hastiness that Anakin possesses.
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But the desire and the goodwill and I must help these people, I
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must come to their aid is very Padme coated.
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Yeah, I, I totally agree. And it's, it's interesting as
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you're talking about this, to see how Anakin and Padme are
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actually very, very similar, at least to begin with.
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And they kind of diverge as they get older.
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But they both have that keen desire to help, the ability to
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help, and then the kind of resourcefulness to make
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something happen in an impossible situation.
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You've seen them both do that, especially like Clone Wars shows
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you Padme doing that much more. And Luke is that way too.
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I mean, the fact that in A New Hope, when they're rescuing
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Leia, he comes up with this plan, you know, with Chewie and
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Han. And yeah, it doesn't go perfect,
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but it works out in the end because of Leo technically, but
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of course, but he has the boldness to even try.
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And this is a total stranger. You know, he's going off of
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basically what Obi Wan told him. It's kind of amazing that it
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works out. He's lucky, I guess, that it
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works out. Yeah.
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It's the same kind of boldness that could easily just get you
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killed, which is very similar to Anakin.
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Very. I mean very.
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Yeah, but I also love that about all these characters.
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It's kind of what makes them endearing is that they think of
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themselves last. Yeah, yes.
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And and I always think about how you and I talk about how Luke
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went into that throne room with Palpatine invader not expecting
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to come out alive. Like he had settled it with
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himself. He was going in there to give it
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one last shot and was OK with dying if that's what it took,
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right? Yeah.
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And I, I really, really think about Padme in the Blue Shadow
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virus arc, where she was going in and was going to save these
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people. She was going to stay in there
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if that's what it took. Yeah.
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It didn't matter if these people were high rank, low rank, who
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they were to her, were they anybody to her?
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You know, it was just one of those things where it didn't
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even cross her mind. You know, like here's the job we
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have to get it done, which is very Jedi like.
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It's very Jedi like, you know, You can compare her to Ahsoka or
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Ahsoka to her in that respect as well.
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Definitely. Which is, which is interesting
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if you think about how Luke and Ahsoka end up befriending each
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other and having things to talk about.
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And you and I just recently, in a previous episode not too long
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ago, said how similar those two actually are.
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Yeah, they're as close to like, siblings as you could get.
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Really. Though never met each other.
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I know it's really cool if you think about it, because there's
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that selflessness that Luke possesses that I, I like, admire
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so much and a kindness towards a kind disposition.
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You know, Leia's a little more like, I'm going to judge you
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until I figure out what you're what, what we're doing here.
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But Luke is just some would call it naive.
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I don't think it's naivety. I think it's just someone with a
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kind heart who's predisposed to not being misled or manipulated.
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He's he knows he's not manipulated by people.
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He's just kind. Yeah, it's not like he, yeah,
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'cause I think naivety implies that you don't know when
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someone's taking advantage of you and he knows.
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Oh, he knows. Yeah, he's.
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Smart and he's intuitive, so he knows when.
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Like he anticipates basically everything that Jabba the Hutt
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is gonna do 'cause he's not naive.
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And that's implied more in like some of the comics where like he
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knew what Java's tactics were even as a kid.
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He speaks Hatiz, even though like these crazers talk about
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that. Like he at least understands it.
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If it doesn't speak it, he knows and anticipates and he's not
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taken advantage of as we're talking about this.
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I'm like, that's Anakin, but it's also Padme.
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Like there there's. Padme is very diplomatic and
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meets people where they are to talk about it first.
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Again, kind of like what we want, but yeah, they all share
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similarities like you said. But Padme is going to try and
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talk through something first. She's not stupid.
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We saw that when she was a very young queen on Naboo.
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For her age, she was so in tune and in charge and willing to
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take risks and meet, do the long meetings that nobody wants.
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This meeting could have been an e-mail type shit on Naboo.
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You know, she's willing to do all that if it means achieving
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some sort of peaceful resolution.
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And I think that's 100% Luke. Yeah, yeah.
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I think there's an interesting flip to that also because there
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are lots of instances where Luke is really impatient, and that is
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so Anakin, because there's obviously, I mean, what comes to
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mind first is how he rushes off to save Han and Leia.
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But I think it's even more telling how he's really
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impatient with Yoda to begin with, before he knows he's Yoda.
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That's so true. Yes, yes.
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But the thing I love about him that you could argue is like
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Anakin and Clone Wars, but really to me it feels more like
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Padme that he learns from that and is actively different by
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Return of the Jedi when he meets the Ewoks.
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Very true. He could.
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Be as dismissive as Han. But he's telling Han no.
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Like there's something to learn from everybody.
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Like, calm down, just go with it for a minute.
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Yep, that's something I love about Luke's character because
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he has such a crazy growth arc which not every character gets
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to have. He starts as like this kind of
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impatient teenager and by the end he's this completely
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collected, calm, passive Jedi who is no longer like, seeking
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action. He just knows when he has to do
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the thing that's hard, he'll go and do it.
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You know, like going to the throne room, he was fully
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capable of dealing with that situation.
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As we saw, he just intended to go there as a passive agent.
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I love that he has moments of impatience.
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He's not perfect. And that's why I love this
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character. And that is such a mixture of
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Anakin and Padme in there to me. Yeah, they can both.
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Both Anakin and Padme are very composed when they need to be.
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Anakin loses that composure much faster than had me, and I think
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Luke grows more into keeping that composure a little bit
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longer with each arc, you know, with each original trilogy
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movie, if you will, and even into the sequels.
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It's really nice to see kind of how well-rounded he ends up
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being in the sequels. I mean for what they are and
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what they're not, right? Yeah.
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He's like the most patient when he's trying to help Ray, when he
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talks to her, sits with her. This is Force ghost Luke.
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He lifts the plane out and has his moment, you know, out of the
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water and that sort of thing. And it's full circle, right?
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Because Yoda was old, was trying to teach and show a young
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potential Jedi, a young potential Force user, etcetera.
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He goes literally from being so impatient with Yoda over all
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this business, you know, to actually doing it himself.
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Cool fucking circle, literally. But I don't know if Anakin had
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been given the chance and and and had therapy and it's
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somewhere in that temple, like we always say.
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I think he could have been really composed and quiet, you
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know thoughtful like a Jedi of different ranks like Qui Gon or
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Obi Wan. You know the pensive, quiet,
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thoughtful but not afraid to kick ass type of Jedi.
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Yeah I totally agree that I I think of as how Luke is.
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I mean this is non Canon because it's legends now, but he's a he
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is one of the few Jedi who's a grandmaster like Yoda.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, true.
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And I know it's not Canon in the sequels I guess, but like Can
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you imagine Anakin reaching grandmasters?
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No, no. The answer's no.
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Yeah, he doesn't even really reach master status, let's be
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real. But.
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Poor thing, too soon. I know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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But it's, it's that Anakin wants clout and that's not, that's not
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as present in Clone Wars until maybe like the very end, but
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that's very present in Revenge of the Sith.
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And Luke does not walk out like he's not remotely interested in
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it. He's just interested in
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learning. And he happens to be a hero
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right away 'cause he's a child who blows up the Death Star.
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Luckily the first time around, got lucky.
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But like, he doesn't do it for fame.
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He does it 'cause it's the right thing to do to stay as part of
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that fight, right? Yeah, The thing is, is Anakin
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thought he was owed something. And Luke never ever walked
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around pretending like anyone owed him anything.
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They didn't. And he didn't feel that they
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did, you know, and that's very Padme.
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I don't think Padme ever. She she thought that the people
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were owed respect. This group of citizens on this
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planet were owed, you know, food, water, shelter, things
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that. Things they need that they need.
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But she never walked around thinking, well, I'm going to
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become a chancellor, so no, please.
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She would have traded it all in if it meant peace overall, you
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know what I mean? Absolutely.
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She's really selfless and like service was her yes, yes, motto
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from she was a queen as a child, crazy.
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And knowing that she was a temporary queen, you know, it
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wasn't like, you know, queen for life.
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It's like she was. I don't I've not read anything.
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I don't know how she became queen, if it's an election or,
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or what, but she goes from being a queen, which is basically a
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diplomatic position to a senator and never once does it for
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herself. It is always in service to
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others. And I think that is very
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apparent in Luke, just as his nature.
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I don't think he's even actively trying to, like, be there for
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others. He just is that way.
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And whether it's, you know, the rebellion as a whole where he
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says it's you're turning your backs on them when he says to
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Han like it's the right thing to do, to stay here all the way up
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to just his personal battles between him and his demons and
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his father and all of that. It's it's never intended to be
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seen on a hollow net or anything like that.
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Like, no, it's just his own acts of service to others.
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Because I think that's just how he is.
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Yeah. I don't know how many more times
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I have to say it. I'm just repeating myself.
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You bring up you bring up excellent points, ones that
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actually connect the true meaning of a senator in this
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case to a true meaning of a Jedi in this case as well.
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Service to others, selflessness in order to provide that that's
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what a Jedi supposed to do. And that's what these senators
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for the Republic were meant to do.
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Do they all do it? No, no, we have the fucking pond
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crawls of the of the world on this side.
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And then we have the Palpatines and the other corrupt ones that
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were, you know, infiltrating and being moles and stuff from the
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Senate. And it brings the other ones
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down and gives the good ones a bad name.
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But in that respect, both Luke and Leia have that shared trait
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that both Anakin and Pad may also share with each other.
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It's no surprise they they actually fell for each other.
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All circumstances aside, I can see why the respect was mutual.
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You think about Obi Wan and Satine, there was a mutual
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respect. They're both kind of leaders of
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trying to stop war, stop famine, stop hurt people hurting this
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that the other, you know, in positions where they were most
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able to do so. There's obvious reasons why they
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were attracted to. I mean they were both attractive
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humans anyway. Same with Anakin and Padme, but
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like it's. Ridiculous.
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You have to have respect for each other.
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It's definitely fiction. No one is that beautiful.
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No real. No, listen, bottom line footer
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on all of this is no one is this pretty except all of these
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people who are hooking up with each other in Star Wars.
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Damn. But you know what I mean.
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I'm trying to say there has to be a level of respect there and
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when Padme loses the respect for Anakin and shit goes downhill
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with the Clovis stuff. Yes.
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You know, imagine Luke losing respect for someone.
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I think that's why Han took it to heart when Luke said you got
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to stay at hat. You can't just leave.
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You think about this, I don't think Han wanted to lose the
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respect of of Luke because Luke was a good kid.
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Han really respected him. I love that whole aspect of
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their relationship because, you know, Han is like the older
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brother who's kind of always giving him shit.
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But I really think deep down Han is kind of, I don't know how to
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describe it. It's like not, he's not
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protective of Luke. He's not I don't even know if he
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would think of them as equals, but he there's something there
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where he has a connection with Luke and it's important enough
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that he risks his life and comes back for them.
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Yes, that this kid, he's like 18 at the time, convinces this
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pirate adult scoundrel that is worth risking everything to help
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the rebellion like a a kid convinced him to do that.
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There's something to that, you know, I think it's.
24:38
Really, Hans Hans been around the block.
24:41
He's probably seen a well, if you take into consideration the
24:45
Canon movie of his early life, right?
24:50
Throw that movie out or not, but think about.
24:53
It once I'm sorry. I know, me too.
24:55
But The thing is this Hans not been around the best crowd and
24:59
he's had a lot of Hard Knocks and here comes Luke Bold.
25:03
He makes decisions, he comes out of nowhere, comes up with a
25:07
plan, steals the Princess away from this ship that Han had to
25:10
be like, monetarily persuaded to do.
25:15
And I think you really respected Luke.
25:17
And he wasn't going to lose that respect because it meant
25:19
something to him. He probably had never seen
25:22
anyone like Luke before. Yeah.
25:25
And he, I think their first interaction where they're kind
25:27
of bickering about Luke's, like, I could fly the ship myself.
25:31
We don't need you. And he sees he's actually not
25:34
useless. He is not squeamish.
25:38
He gets put in a trash compactor and just deals with it.
25:42
You know, like he rolls with the punches even though he's a farm
25:45
kid, a hay seed, you know, with grass behind his ears.
25:49
He is more than capable of holding his own even though he's
25:53
very young. I love all of this.
25:58
Got it. Just Star Wars.
25:59
I really do, especially when it comes down to the core people
26:03
that got us to watch in the 1st place, you know, the the core
26:06
characters. I should say.
26:08
I also think, and obviously no one here is related, but I think
26:14
that Mark Young, Mark Hamill shares more facial feature
26:17
traits with Natalie Portman and Carrie Fisher shares more facial
26:23
feature traits with Hanakin, Hayden Christensen Hanakin, you
26:32
know what I'm saying? She has a strong jaw, she has a
26:34
strong face, a brow. And then like, Mark Hamill has
26:38
this little heart-shaped face with a like a chin and the
26:41
little chin and the little butt chin, which I mean, I mean,
26:46
Hayden has. Cleft chin I hate.
26:47
Butt chin. Oh, sorry, does doesn't fucking
26:52
Hayden have a have a cleft chin? He is a strong.
26:55
Let me look him up just to be sure.
27:00
Yeah, he's got kind of a square chin.
27:02
But I think, I think honestly, Leia's a little more visually
27:06
representative of Anakin, and then Luke is visually
27:12
representative of Leia. Because you know how siblings
27:14
kind of come out? One looks like one parent more
27:16
than the other, and the other one looks like the other.
27:18
It's like, yeah, weird. I don't have any siblings, so
27:22
it's just me. There's only one I know.
27:26
Now, again, none of these people are are related if that's weird.
27:29
But like, if I look at fan art, it's always like, Luke's a
27:33
little bit like Padme, but he has Anakin's hair.
27:36
And then Leia looks like Anakin, but she has Padme's hair, which
27:39
I love. I love all of that.
27:41
I love all that. I feel so good.
27:43
And honestly, like, you know, Anakin and Padme are beautiful
27:46
and Luke and Leia are beautiful and they're just a beautiful
27:51
family full of fucking. Drama and poor Obi Wan over in
27:55
the wings trying to deal with all of it.
28:01
Just let me die and become a foreign please.
28:07
Can I go now? Just like, Nope, shit.
28:12
Even then, he's still trapped with them for eternity.
28:19
Oh, but he wouldn't have it any other way, right?
28:23
I yeah, baby, I guess that's probably true.
28:29
Another thing that I thought of when it comes to Luke and Padme
28:32
is we always see Leia with a blaster and Luke with a light
28:37
Saber, but Luke busts out that that same old blaster in Empire
28:41
Strikes Back especially. When he's.
28:44
Running down the hallways and stuff.
28:45
That's very Padme. That's very.
28:47
That's true. Yeah, his gun.
28:50
His his blaster is just as iconic, I think, as his light
28:53
Saber. Yeah.
28:55
What form does Luke use? That's a good question.
29:00
Is he strongest in one form versus another?
29:04
I've never looked it up, so according to my quick Google
29:08
search which you know is giving me some AI.
29:11
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Slop, he uses a hybrid form
29:17
primarily based in Form 5, which is the one that Anakin uses.
29:21
So it's like it's a more aggressive style.
29:23
It's called SIM Gym, so gym. So I don't know how to say it,
29:27
but but yeah, it's like Anakin. But then he also studied with
29:32
Yoda, so he uses Ataru as well. Cuz it's all acrobatics.
29:36
Cuz that's. Oh yes, that's true.
29:38
Focus was so. Yeah, very true.
29:41
Yeah, and then Obi Wan was teaching him the basics of
29:44
Soreisu, I guess when they were first working together.
29:46
That's what this quick Google search says.
29:49
That would make sense. I mean, these were his three.
29:53
Well, I guess he never knew Anakin, but.
29:56
A predisposition. He would fight like Anakin.
29:59
Yeah. Yeah.
30:01
That's curious. Seem to me like the kind, even
30:03
though he's passive, he doesn't seem like the kind of person who
30:06
would fight with Suraisu. I don't I don't find him a
30:09
Suraisu person. No, I I believe he he would be
30:12
very Anakin like in his. Yeah.
30:14
And I can see, you know, with Yoda, Luke had that that live,
30:19
strong, compact figure, which would lend very well to what is
30:24
it, Form 4 and Ataru. Yeah, I think he would excel at
30:31
that if he if he defaulted to that as opposed to Form 5.
30:35
So I'm not surprised to hear that those are the two that he
30:38
leaned towards. Oh, Anakin would be so proud.
30:40
Oh. I know.
30:42
Anakin's so good, though. Well, Hayden.
30:45
Hayden, the king of all Saber twirling.
30:49
Seriously, even just watching a small snippet of him on in the
30:53
Ahsoka series, it was just like, Oh yeah, that was something
30:56
special. And Hayden knows it, but he's so
31:00
humble about it. He's so humble about it kills
31:03
me. It's so not Anakin.
31:07
I love it. I.
31:08
Eat this stuff every now and then someone can coax him to do
31:11
a twirl like on stage in front of an audience and blood knows
31:14
their shit and faint. Right there.
31:16
Isn't my shit over here right now anyway?
31:20
What were you going to say? Nothing I mean I just I guess
31:25
the the hybrid is very much like Obi Wan because Obi Wan is yes
31:31
he is Seraisu but Obi Wan knows how to use most of the forms and
31:34
he adjusts what he's doing to the situation and I feel like
31:38
Luke does that also. Yes.
31:40
I mean, if you're going to become a grandmaster, whether
31:42
it's Canon or not, you got to be able to bounce between all of
31:47
them and read your opponent well, just like Obi Wan.
31:49
And he was Obi Wan's, you know, under his tutelage for some
31:53
time. Well and who knows like we I
31:55
mean maybe this is more prevalent in the books because I
31:58
I'm here to say I've not read very much legends so I don't
32:01
know. But just because the story ends
32:05
in Return of the Jedi doesn't mean that Luke doesn't keep
32:08
training with Obi Wan since their ghost is hanging out with
32:11
him. It's very.
32:12
Possible that that training continues.
32:14
He trained with Leia. Yeah.
32:17
Exactly. And Leia didn't.
32:20
Leia wasn't sleeping on him either.
32:23
No, she was actually so powerful she scared herself.
32:26
Yeah, that's fucking crazy. Oh my God.
32:29
I love these two so much. Oh my God.
32:33
Oh my God. Everybody who thinks that the
32:37
Skywalker saga can end can just the doors over there, you can
32:40
see yourself out. OK, yes, there's a lot of really
32:46
nice cool new characters, but the doors over there, if you
32:49
think that the the three main characters, the three of the
32:52
original 3. Yeah.
32:55
Need to end bye bye. See you later over there.
32:57
That door never over there, never on this podcast.
33:00
Will be no, no, probably to a fault.
33:04
But you know what if you find fault in that?
33:06
The doors over there. Look, this is what we grew up
33:11
with. This was before it's.
33:12
True. You know it was open harvest on
33:17
everything Star Wars you can imagine.
33:19
We had three movies and then a bunch of legends books.
33:23
So sorry but I'll clutch that to my chest till I die.
33:27
Yeah, I mean, it was re watching like VHS tapes for me over and
33:32
over and over and over. My poor mom never wants to see
33:37
Return of the Jedi again because I watched it so much.
33:41
I know and I was raised in a Star Trek household and they
33:44
told me just go in the bedroom so I did.
33:48
I know I felt so excited when I went to college and I had my own
33:52
TV, right? I was like, I'm going to watch
33:54
Star Wars all the time and no one is going to complain.
33:58
He was. Glove Star Wars so much.
34:03
Thank God we have a podcast we should talk about.
34:06
It I know it's so refreshing. Are you ready to answer some
34:17
Jedi Master questions? Cuz we have some more.
34:20
I am, let's do it. I love these.
34:22
These are the best. I don't know them, I have no
34:27
idea what they're gonna be. Yes, let's go.
34:29
Okay. All right, from GAIL?
34:32
She asked. GAIL.
34:33
OMFG Lego sith Obi Wan. Remember I sent you the video of
34:38
that, she says. Can we get Jat back on the show
34:41
to talk about Sith Obi Wan? I mean, my answer is yes, but
34:45
what's Jet's answer? Look, the last time Jet came on
34:50
the show, it was kind of because all of our listeners, whenever
34:54
they'd see him at a con, would say you should go on most things
34:57
Kenobi. And eventually he was like, I
34:59
will do that. And that's how it happened.
35:02
He's a man of his word and he's a really good friend of the
35:05
show. So listen, GAIL, my answer is
35:07
yes. What's your answer, Lauren?
35:10
Oh yeah, please. Jet is welcome anytime he wants
35:13
to come. I do.
35:15
I do kind of want to hear him talk about Sith Obi Wan from the
35:18
new Lego do. I wonder if we, I suppose we
35:22
could text him and or e-mail him and say, do you want to come
35:26
talk about Sith like there's nothing to tell?
35:29
I mean, maybe we'll wait till everyone sees it.
35:33
And then I think it just came out.
35:35
So we should. Oh, good, next episode.
35:37
Excellent. OK, fabulous.
35:39
OK, Ben, our good friend Ben. Hi, Ben.
35:45
Oh no. So how long would it take a duck
35:48
to fly to the moon? 12 1/2 parsecs.
36:04
I don't know. Let's see and duck it why they
36:09
can, right? They can.
36:11
Of course they can, yeah. Yeah.
36:12
OK. All right.
36:14
It's so OK. Based on a typical flight speed
36:18
of 50 mph, it would take a duck approximately 199 days to fly
36:23
the average distance to the moon, provided it could survive
36:27
the vacuum of space. Oh, but I guess there's our
36:35
answer by the end of the year if he starts on January 1st, right?
36:42
Oh my gosh. Yeah.
36:43
Wow. Does this account for bathroom
36:45
breaks and food? Probably not, since it's in the
36:49
vacuum of. Space, but shit, literally
36:53
when's he gonna thank you, Ben? Yeah, that's great.
36:58
Thank you, Ben, Michela says. Can you assign D&D style
37:02
alignments to our favorite Clone Wars characters?
37:05
I'm super eager to hear about Ahsoka and Hondo.
37:08
Bonus if you can align D&D alignments to Lord of the Rings
37:12
characters and their counterparts and stuff.
37:17
This requires research. I don't know a thing about
37:21
Dungeons and Dragons. I honestly, I don't either.
37:25
Listen, can we? Can we research it and then get
37:28
back to you? Would that be?
37:30
You know, I think doesn't Adela know a thing or two about D&D?
37:34
Maybe this can be maybe this can be AQ and a session when we get
37:38
one with our patrons and. That's a good idea.
37:41
We can have a round table discussion because I've never
37:44
played. I'm so sorry to disappoint you
37:46
all. I know we're honestly, I'm like
37:49
just a little bit too young for when it was like popular in the
37:52
80s because my coach is same and only played and he's 10 years
37:55
older than me. But I know it's actually super
37:58
popular still. So I don't know.
37:59
I have no excuse. But she also asks, are you also
38:02
obsessed with K pop K pop demon hunters?
38:06
Because this is all I hear about now.
38:08
Yes, that. Is watch that.
38:11
Yeah, it's, it's weirdly a Dick. It's cringy, but it's addicting.
38:16
I I don't know what my problem is.
38:19
There's nothing but good things. It has really good music, but I
38:23
find myself, I find myself sitting there going you, you
38:27
really don't need to be watching this, but it's kind of good.
38:31
Like the music, it's the music and I like K pop music anyway so
38:36
half of the people that I listen to and I have playlists with are
38:39
on there. Honestly, people are raving
38:41
about it. They love it, so I.
38:43
Don't know, it's a fun watch. Yeah, I'm.
38:45
Stupid cuz like everyone was like watch blue eyed samurai
38:49
you'll be obsessed. I waited like a year and then I
38:51
watched and I was like holy shit this is fucking good why didn't
38:54
I watch it when everyone said to watch it?
38:56
It's harmless. It's not.
38:59
It's one of those like easy watches.
39:02
That's what I need in my life right now.
39:03
I need gentle and simple. Try it.
39:06
Thank you, Jedi Masters. This was delightful.
39:08
There's more. We have lots more, so we'll keep
39:10
doing this. Yeah, and we have D&D homework
39:12
now. Yeah, we got to play it at some
39:16
point. Let's do it.
39:18
I'm down. OK, we're going to learn new
39:21
skills. Yes, 4040 years later, we'll
39:26
pick up a game. Thank you, Jedi Masters.
39:34
All right, our next episode, we kind of already mentioned it
39:37
offhand, but we're going to discuss the new Lego installment
39:41
of Star Wars Legends of the past, Rebuilding the past.
39:46
What's it called? You know the one with Sith Obi
39:52
Wan folks. Rebuild the Galaxy pieces.
39:56
Rebuild the Galaxy pieces of the past.
39:58
We're going to talk about it with special emphasis on Sith
40:01
Obi Wan, because didn't Lauren and I just lose our shit when we
40:04
saw that there was Sith Obi Wan? Okay.
40:07
No, I sent you the little clip of Instagram and I was like holy
40:12
shit, Jet is finally actually voicing It'll be 1.
40:17
Even if it's a leg, yes, I don't care.
40:19
I don't. Care.
40:19
We're here for it. We're going to talk about it
40:21
next episode, so please join us back here for all the
40:24
ridiculousness because I'm sure it will ensue.
40:28
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41:05
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