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Stories from the Trail | Episode 1 · Age Groupers

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SPEAKER_00: Either one.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe they'll hear us.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe.
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SPEAKER_00: We're in.
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SPEAKER_00: Should we talk about what happened with you and Hoka?
0:22
SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
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SPEAKER_00: Are you allowed to talk about that?
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know why not.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know why not either.
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SPEAKER_00: They didn't tell me.
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SPEAKER_00: Didn't come with any like strings.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, shout out to the dogs at Hoka.
0:32
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know if you guys have seen my uh awesome video.
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SPEAKER_00: Um Landy Ultra Runs on Instagram, but um did a little parody about new shoes, you know.
0:43
SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
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SPEAKER_00: And they're and not only are they new, but they're white.
0:46
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so it's scary.
0:48
SPEAKER_00: Got them on sale, but you never want to mess up a brand new pair of shoes, you know.
0:52
SPEAKER_00: So uh I do this little bit where uh well I don't want to ruin the fun, but anyways, I do a bit.
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SPEAKER_00: My kids think it's hilarious, so obviously I posted it.
1:01
SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, months, two goes by, I I at Idahoca to see if maybe, you know, they could see uh the goods.
1:10
SPEAKER_00: And uh just so happened that they uh messaged me a free coupon code, so I got me a new pair of shoes.
1:15
SPEAKER_00: It's pretty cool.
1:16
SPEAKER_01: That yeah, that's actually crazy.
1:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:19
SPEAKER_00: So uh shout out to the dogs at uh Etahoka for the random free shoe drop.
1:24
SPEAKER_00: For the random random free shoe dropped, brand new pair of Clifton 11s, coolest thing ever.
1:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's actually to protect the dogs.
1:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:30
SPEAKER_01: I think that's uh a testament to the kind of company they are.
1:33
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
1:34
SPEAKER_00: I'm a Hoka guy until I die, man.
1:36
SPEAKER_00: It's all day.
1:36
SPEAKER_00: Like I'm not a good guy to ask, like, hey, what's a good pair of running shoes?
1:39
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna tell you Hoka because that's all I that's all I run.
1:41
SPEAKER_01: Hoka's not all I use, but it is the answer I give people when they ask.
1:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like just it's safe.
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SPEAKER_01: First, do some research about shoes, but once you find the shoe that you think you're gonna need, get it from Hoka.
1:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:52
SPEAKER_01: That's what I say.
1:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:54
SPEAKER_00: They're my jam, man.
1:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I get it.
1:56
SPEAKER_01: Uh I don't share that same anxiety about new shoes as you do, though.
1:59
SPEAKER_00: Dude, I try I try not to.
2:01
SPEAKER_01: I'll take them out of the box, put them on, and run straight through the mud.
2:04
SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the best way to do it.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a tool to me.
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SPEAKER_00: It's the best way to do it.
2:09
SPEAKER_00: How many pairs do you run?
2:11
SPEAKER_00: Um that's a thing.
2:14
SPEAKER_01: I just have one right now.
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SPEAKER_01: I need to get another one.
2:16
SPEAKER_01: But I wasn't, after all the mess with my feet, I was gonna be a hundred percent sure that this particular shoe or this type of shoe, super stable, uh, and only a small drop was gonna be like the shoe for me.
2:32
SPEAKER_01: So I'll probably run two pair.
2:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:34
SPEAKER_01: Two pair per discipline.
2:35
SPEAKER_01: So I'll have two road and two trail perfect.
2:38
SPEAKER_00: I've got I've got one trail, but I don't do enough trail running other than the events.
2:44
SPEAKER_00: Uh but yeah, now because shout out to Hoka, I have three three cliftons.
2:48
SPEAKER_00: I got two cliffin tens and one clifton eleven.
2:51
SPEAKER_01: I wish I'd give you another code so we could give away a pair.
2:53
SPEAKER_00: Oh, maybe, maybe we'll have to do that.
2:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that'd be cool.
2:56
SPEAKER_00: Maybe uh maybe listeners at Hoka on this to give her away a free pair of shoes.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe.
3:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
3:04
SPEAKER_00: All you can do is ask.
3:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's true.
3:07
SPEAKER_01: What's the worst they do?
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SPEAKER_01: Ignore it.
3:09
SPEAKER_00: That's true.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Speaking of giving away things, today is uh a different kind of episode.
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SPEAKER_01: Stories from the trail.
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SPEAKER_01: So we'll share some stories from the trail between the two of us that we've encountered.
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SPEAKER_01: Um trail could mean race day, trail could mean the highway, but anywhere.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, but we encourage listeners to submit their stories from the trail.
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SPEAKER_01: DM us on Instagram or or really wherever on social media, and uh, if we read your story on, what do we get?
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, we've got tons of merch online.
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SPEAKER_00: Just pick what you want.
3:44
SPEAKER_00: Okay, get after it.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Just just pull a hoke, man.
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SPEAKER_00: Like just give them a I'll just throw a we'll have the president throw you a coupon code that will literally get you one free item from the store.
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SPEAKER_00: The president.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Might cost you$5.99 in shipping, but you know, we'll figure that out.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, submit your stories and we will read them on another stories of the trail episode.
4:06
SPEAKER_01: But shout you out on the socials.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
4:08
SPEAKER_01: Don't be afraid.
4:09
SPEAKER_01: Um, do you want to start or do you want me to start?
4:12
SPEAKER_00: Man, um yeah, why don't you go ahead and kick us off.
4:16
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
4:17
SPEAKER_01: What you got?
4:18
SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
4:18
SPEAKER_01: I'll try.
4:19
SPEAKER_01: I got a couple that I wrote down here.
4:22
SPEAKER_01: Um this is a uh more of a lesson learned.
4:26
SPEAKER_01: Um it was uh Waco 70.3 2024.
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SPEAKER_01: It was my first half Iron Man.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think I know where you're going.
4:37
SPEAKER_01: So many, I don't know if I've told you this before.
4:39
SPEAKER_01: Maybe you haven't.
4:40
SPEAKER_01: So many hours put into prep outside of training, like reading, making a packing list, like trying to think of every possible thing that could go wrong and having a solution for it, just to put the odds more in my favor.
4:55
SPEAKER_01: And you know, it's race day, and I'm one of the first ones there two hours before the damn thing starts.
5:02
SPEAKER_01: It's pitch black.
5:03
SPEAKER_01: Which speaking of that, I'm glad I did that.
5:06
SPEAKER_01: I I talked to several people that were like, you really don't need to get there that early.
5:09
SPEAKER_01: But I d I don't know what it's like at other events, but the parking at this place is horrendous.
5:15
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
5:15
SPEAKER_01: Your parking, your choices are to get there super early like I did, and get decent parking, or park in a parking lot in downtown Waco a mile from the area.
5:24
SPEAKER_00: You're doing an event before the event.
5:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
5:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
5:26
SPEAKER_01: So so, anyways, that would be something to take away there.
5:30
SPEAKER_01: The point is, is I put hours and hours into research and figuring out how I need to prep my gear, what I need to lay out the night before, um, all that kind of stuff.
5:41
SPEAKER_01: There's actually two things that happened in this race.
5:43
SPEAKER_01: Now I think I know what you're talking about.
5:45
SPEAKER_01: But it's 10 o'clock the night before, and uh I'm in the hotel trying to go to sleep, but I can't, and I'm going through for probably the 100th time that day.
5:56
SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, you have your wetsuit, which it wasn't wetsuit legal, but just in case, I have your wetsuit, you have your tri-suit, you have your goggles, you have your shoes, socks, you have nutrition, you have, you know, Vaseline, you have sunglasses for the transition, uh towel to put down on, you know, everything, all that.
6:14
SPEAKER_01: And then literally 10 o'clock at night, and uh I go, holy shit, where is my timing chip?
6:21
SPEAKER_01: And I could not find it.
6:23
SPEAKER_01: And I'm 20 miles from my in-law's house where I was staying.
6:27
SPEAKER_01: I got a hotel for the night before the race.
6:29
SPEAKER_01: But for the weekend, uh, we were at my in-law's house, they live 20 miles from Waco, but I wanted to be closer uh the night before the race so that I didn't have to drive 20 miles that morning.
6:41
SPEAKER_00: Why is a so for maybe some of our listeners like why is a timing chip important?
6:46
SPEAKER_00: What is that?
6:46
SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, that's that's first of all, it's essentially proof that you're supposed to be there the morning of that way.
6:53
SPEAKER_01: You don't just walk up.
6:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's basically.
6:55
SPEAKER_01: And uh, and two, like you can't, I mean, nothing's gonna happen without it.
6:59
SPEAKER_01: You'll get kicked out of the race if you try to start without it.
7:01
SPEAKER_00: So and it it logs everything, yeah.
7:03
SPEAKER_01: So it logs your oh yeah, and uh so that's how you can.
7:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
7:10
SPEAKER_01: And I just had this panic attack, and uh, and so I I call my wife hoping that she's still awake, and I don't know if she was or not, but she answered the phone and I said, I'm missing my timing chip.
7:23
SPEAKER_01: It's like a black neoprene strap with a blue plastic square on it.
7:28
SPEAKER_01: It's gotta be somewhere at the house because it's I tore the hotel room apart and it wasn't anywhere.
7:34
SPEAKER_01: And so I called her and she calls me back like five minutes later, and she found it, you know, and all my there.
7:40
SPEAKER_01: It was at yeah, it was at my in-law's house uh where I'd been staying up until that night.
7:45
SPEAKER_01: Oh and no, so she said, I found it, and so I'm 20 miles away, but I said, God, it's late.
7:51
SPEAKER_01: I said, Can you meet me halfway?
7:53
SPEAKER_01: So we met, you know, 10 miles, we found some restaurant or something 10 miles in between us and met there, and you know, it was fine.
8:01
SPEAKER_01: And then I learned the next morning that if you lost yours, there was a place like a table you could go and pay extra money to get another timing chip, which you saved you a couple bucks, probably.
8:12
SPEAKER_01: It did, but even knowing that now, I still wouldn't recommend losing your timing chip.
8:18
SPEAKER_00: Oh, dude, I bet your like anxiety was just through the roof.
8:20
SPEAKER_00: Did you even get any sleep?
8:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I did after I got the chip.
8:23
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
8:23
SPEAKER_00: But it was some relief.
8:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
8:25
SPEAKER_01: Like, even if I would have known that there was a place I could take care of it in the morning, I probably wouldn't have slept because it's like just one more thing to do.
8:33
SPEAKER_01: Um, and you just never know how that kind of stuff's gonna go.
8:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
8:36
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
8:37
SPEAKER_01: I just it's just funny that in all my preparation.
8:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's the one thing.
8:42
SPEAKER_01: I s yeah, I s I still forgot the timing chip.
8:45
SPEAKER_01: And then that same race, again, where I was going with that originally was all the preparation, all the checklists, all the this is what you need, this is how you should rig up your bike, on so on and so forth.
8:56
SPEAKER_01: I uh neglected to secure my bottles.
9:00
SPEAKER_01: And on the bike, the first which I've ridden hundreds of miles, if not thousands, just like this and had no problem.
9:09
SPEAKER_01: But of course, on the day I hit a bump real weird five miles into the bike and lost a bottle of electrolytes completely.
9:16
SPEAKER_01: And I I think that's responsible for why I had such a horrible race day, really, or part of the reason.
9:22
SPEAKER_01: But what kind of bottle was it though?
9:25
SPEAKER_00: Uh some of those freebies you get off.
9:27
SPEAKER_01: It was a freebie from Strava, but it was it was one of my favorite bottles.
9:31
SPEAKER_01: No, it wasn't a freebie from Strava, it was from some company that makes like cookie dough, and it had like iHeart cookies on it.
9:38
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
9:38
SPEAKER_01: And the heart looked like a chocolate chip cookie.
9:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you are a cookie man.
9:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I lost that bottle.
9:43
SPEAKER_01: And what's funny is at the end of the bike, because it was an out and back, I rode by it and it was still sitting there on the side of the road.
9:48
SPEAKER_01: I almost stopped and grabbed it, but dude, I definitely would have.
9:51
SPEAKER_01: I was so ready to get onto the run.
9:52
SPEAKER_01: I didn't.
9:53
SPEAKER_01: I was like, eh, it belongs to Waco now.
9:56
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, that's uh that's uh two lessons learned from uh Iron Man Waco 2024.
10:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
10:04
SPEAKER_00: Don't forget your race chip and secure your cookie dough bottles.
10:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, rubber bands.
10:10
SPEAKER_00: Do you have one of those Strava freebie bottles that has like your Strava name on it?
10:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I have a few of them.
10:15
SPEAKER_00: Ah, dude.
10:15
SPEAKER_00: Uh that that thing is like I love that thing.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love those.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: If I lost that, I would be distraught.
10:22
SPEAKER_01: I I don't care.
10:24
SPEAKER_01: Uh but that mine are peeling off because I put them in the dishwasher anyways.
10:28
SPEAKER_00: The other day, so what I do, um, I will fill it up and then um put it in the freezer.
10:38
SPEAKER_00: Like so it gets like good cold, and I can try to time it perfectly where it's got like a little bit of crystals in there, but like, you know, not just like totally frozen, you can't drink it.
10:46
SPEAKER_00: I forgot about it and stayed in there for like three days.
10:48
SPEAKER_00: And it had this massive, like, I mean, you know, it expanded in this massive bulge on the side, and I was like, no.
10:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I I shed a tear.
10:57
SPEAKER_01: So you throw it away?
10:59
SPEAKER_00: No.
11:00
SPEAKER_00: I was like, maybe it will come back to life, and it it did.
11:04
SPEAKER_00: It it went back down.
11:05
SPEAKER_00: So it was just pregnant for a while.
11:06
SPEAKER_00: It was just pregnant, it had like a tumor, so I had to perform surgery on it.
11:09
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
11:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
11:11
SPEAKER_01: So it's the gestational period on a drop of water bottle.
11:16
SPEAKER_00: Overnight.
11:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
11:18
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't I couldn't tell you the exact timing.
11:20
SPEAKER_00: I thought it was done for.
11:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, so yours, uh your I don't know if you call it a fallout or not, but uh I'm sure if you if you forgot the chip, it would have been an absolute fallout, but that reminds me of mine.
11:36
SPEAKER_00: Probably my my number one stories from the trail, uh war story, if you call it, was uh Big Texas Ultra.
11:47
SPEAKER_00: Shout out, Texas Outlaw Running Company.
11:50
SPEAKER_00: Um I think it was my third or fourth 50k somewhere around there, and it was it was a part of the series.
11:57
SPEAKER_00: And in this series you have to complete all of these these five different ultra events across Texas to complete your Texas.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: I think I talked about that um prior.
12:09
SPEAKER_00: And this particular one, um like I had to do because I was I knew that I wouldn't be able to make it the next the the following year.
12:19
SPEAKER_00: And so like everything was riding on this race, and I had to I had to finish this one to get the the the middle piece of it's the star of the freaking Texas, you know, and so it's like you have to have this one.
12:31
SPEAKER_00: And so I got signed up for it, went down there, and by this time, of course, it's like I said, it's my third or fourth one, and I'm dude, I'm a I'm an absolute pro ultra runner, so I know what I'm doing.
12:42
SPEAKER_01: For sure.
12:43
SPEAKER_00: And um, I'm paranoid about packing all my stuff too.
12:47
SPEAKER_00: Like I like I don't even care like if I forget clean underwear for the ride home or whatever.
12:52
SPEAKER_00: Like as long as I have all the race stuff, like that's what that's what I need.
12:55
SPEAKER_01: That's exactly that's that's exactly how I think, by the way.
12:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, what do I need to complete the event?
13:00
SPEAKER_01: If I forget something outside of that bubble, I'll figure it out.
13:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, who cares?
13:04
SPEAKER_01: I can't figure it out in the middle of a race.
13:06
SPEAKER_00: We'll go to the Walmart on the way home and get you whatever you need.
13:08
SPEAKER_00: That's funny you say that.
13:11
SPEAKER_00: I uh so anyways, I I have everything.
13:14
SPEAKER_00: I'm locked in, I'm locked down.
13:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, and this was my normally um anytime I've gone to these, I stay at like a hotel or something, but I was trying to be cheap and chase some save some money, do the full ultra experience, you know, car sleep.
13:28
SPEAKER_00: And so I did.
13:28
SPEAKER_00: I slept in the back of our expedition.
13:31
SPEAKER_00: The only thing was I like I rented a campsite there, and the camp area you pull up, there's nowhere for you to put your car.
13:39
SPEAKER_00: Like you like kind of have to, you don't have to hike in, but you kind of have to like you know walk like 50 feet to your site.
13:45
SPEAKER_00: So I was like, well, that's out of the question.
13:47
SPEAKER_00: Um so I was in the parking lot, which had an incline.
13:50
SPEAKER_00: So that was kind of the that was kind of something to figure out.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, you have like the race jitters, I'm like going through anything.
13:57
SPEAKER_00: I just couldn't sleep.
13:58
SPEAKER_00: And I got some I got some decent sleep, but it wasn't you know the greatest sleep ever.
14:04
SPEAKER_00: So I woke up, I got ready, I started doing some stretching, I walked down to the bathroom, you know, and normally like I'm like you all like to show up away early at the at the entrance because parking's insane if you don't.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: And uh so I'm thinking I'm like pretty early.
14:22
SPEAKER_00: And or at this point I am early, it's like 30, 45 minutes, I think, before the event.
14:26
SPEAKER_00: So I I just I'm taking my time and I decide you know what, I'll go ahead and drive up like to the parking area and I and see what it looked like.
14:34
SPEAKER_00: It was totally packed.
14:35
SPEAKER_00: It's a really small parking area, so it's like, well, shoot, I'll have to drive down and hit another parking area, about a mile away from the um the start line.
14:44
SPEAKER_00: But it's perfect because I have like a Gatorade that I'm gonna drink, you know, to like I'll just like I'll just walk in, like it'd be good, I'll be warm, do the race brief, I'll hit this Gatorade on the way in, be perfect.
14:56
SPEAKER_00: And for some reason, I don't know if it was like my service where I was at, but my uh I look down at my watch, I'd been looking at my phone for a time, looked down at my watch, and I I realized it's like 12 minutes before the event starts.
15:11
SPEAKER_00: And I'm I'm at the park, like the parking area a mile away.
15:15
SPEAKER_00: And I am like, holy shit, I'm screwed.
15:21
SPEAKER_00: So I I don't have my shoes on, I don't have my pack on, I don't have my pack like like with the bottles in it yet.
15:28
SPEAKER_00: So I'm panicking, I'm putting it all together, and I'm like, okay, I'm like, I know I can run like an eight-minute mile.
15:33
SPEAKER_00: So like as long as I can 450k.
15:36
SPEAKER_00: 450k.
15:37
SPEAKER_00: So uh I think it like I got everything together, and dude, I'm like pretty much sprinting to the the start-finish area.
15:45
SPEAKER_00: I'm literally like 10 minutes, 10 minutes from start, I'm a mile-ish away.
15:49
SPEAKER_00: So, of course, the first thing you do is you start your Strava because I'm not not logging this.
15:54
SPEAKER_00: It counts.
15:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
15:55
SPEAKER_00: This pre-race like PR attempt, you know.
15:59
SPEAKER_00: And I like literally sprint to the finish line, and I get there and I'm so out of breath.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: My my uh heart rate is skyrocketed, and as soon as I get there, they're doing the countdown to leave.
16:11
SPEAKER_00: So I stop my Strava because I'm like, well, you know, that's pre-race PR attempt run to get to the finish line and start my new one.
16:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and I get going and I'm at the very end of the pack.
16:25
SPEAKER_00: Like, so of course, there's like some people who are kind of walking it or going really slow, you know, and I'm I'm trying to get a decent time because I wanted to finish and get home at a decent time.
16:35
SPEAKER_00: And so I'm just I like I'm depleted too because that's it didn't get my Gatorade in me.
16:41
SPEAKER_00: Um my heart rate's to the roof, and uh it was just a terrible like first start experience.
16:46
SPEAKER_00: I wish if I would have gone back, I mean, you know, you're out there forever.
16:50
SPEAKER_00: I would have just showed up to the start line like 10 minutes late.
16:53
SPEAKER_00: Who cares?
16:54
SPEAKER_00: What's 10 minutes on a seven, eight hour run?
16:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you get the whole start line to yourself.
16:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
17:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, but I'm I'm like fighting for a position, you know, and not not because I'm trying to race anybody, I'm just I'm trying to beat my own time from the previous time.
17:10
SPEAKER_00: And uh it just it was a the worst start that you could imagine to uh to a 50k.
17:16
SPEAKER_00: And so I was just like depleted, my my uh heart rate was already way up there, and um, you know, so I start to kind of settle down, but then you hit the aid stations and like they're you're you're so compacted with so many people, you know, because you're I mean it's very confined trails on this race.
17:35
SPEAKER_00: And uh, so I'm like, dang man, like this is eating so much time off my my time.
17:39
SPEAKER_00: And I'm trying to get home, like at you know, I think I was like it was like a three or four hour drive from where I was at.
17:45
SPEAKER_00: And uh it it I'm like okay, well let me let me pick up some speed.
17:50
SPEAKER_00: So the we hit the first aid station, it's a few miles in, and uh going kind of the next little bit, and I know that an aid station's coming up, and there's like a line of like seven people, and I'm like, man, there's no way like I am gonna get past these people, so I don't have to do that again.
18:07
SPEAKER_00: And so I start, I kind of book it, I'm going around them, and they're being real cool, they're letting me pass.
18:12
SPEAKER_00: And right as I'm passing the the front, the guy that was in the front, I like hit a I don't know what I hit.
18:18
SPEAKER_00: I kicked like a rock or a stump or I don't know what ghost hole, and it was the worst pain I've ever felt in my toe, ever.
18:28
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, oh dude, I just ripped my toenail off like my toe.
18:32
SPEAKER_00: There's no way that my toenails there, and I could feel it pinching, and somehow I didn't fall down, I didn't crash and burn, but I can feel my toe pinching, and I'm like, dang, like, oh my toenail, like now I can't do a sock change because I'm not gonna look at this thing, it's probably like full of blood.
18:47
SPEAKER_00: And you don't know what you hit?
18:48
SPEAKER_00: I have no idea what I hit, no idea, but all I know it hurt like hell.
18:52
SPEAKER_00: Like it, my my toe hurt so bad.
18:55
SPEAKER_00: I was scared to look at it.
18:56
SPEAKER_00: I just kept going.
18:58
SPEAKER_00: And that was like probably six, seven miles in, something like that.
19:01
SPEAKER_00: Um, kind of find out I broke it, so my toe was broken that whole rest of the way.
19:06
SPEAKER_00: It was the worst, worst thing ever.
19:08
SPEAKER_01: So how far into it was it?
19:09
SPEAKER_00: It was like seven, like six or seven miles in is when I when I stubbed my toe.
19:13
SPEAKER_00: It might have even been five.
19:14
SPEAKER_00: It was something, it was right at the beginning.
19:16
SPEAKER_01: You were doomed from the start.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: Doomed from the start, dude.
19:18
SPEAKER_00: Like right then and there, I should have just been like, this is over.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: I'm done.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: Nah, you did it now.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, yeah, I ended up making it, but it was rough.
19:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I ran that one with a broken toe.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh that was the first race that really humbled me.
19:35
SPEAKER_00: Like, was like, oh, okay.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: Like, I like I I I didn't think it.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: There was a couple points, and I I'm not like uh it's hard for me to quit like something like that.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: Um and uh there was a couple times that I really contemplated throwing in the towel.
19:52
SPEAKER_01: Like, did it hurt this is a dumb question.
19:53
SPEAKER_01: Did it hurt the whole time?
19:55
SPEAKER_01: Or did it kind of go away and it hurt on the air?
19:57
SPEAKER_00: It hurt the whole time, and then the other problem was like um because I had kind of depleted myself and I'm thinking like I'm not I'm not the mental game's not quite there because I've got this toe thing going on.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to figure out how to get ahead of like a lot of the people that you know start at the very back.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: So I also wasn't paying attention to like nutrition and my drinking, like water and electrolytes.
20:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and there's one point where you kind of come up on a bathroom and I'm like, man, I'm like, it's been a couple hours and I haven't used the restroom.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: And usually on an event, I'm like going, I'm stepping to the side of the trail like all the time because I'm just pushing so much water and it did not look good, like it, you know, color, urine color, you know, I don't know, TMI, but was not not what you would would want.
20:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
20:46
SPEAKER_00: And so I'm like, crap, now I'm getting dehydrated.
20:49
SPEAKER_00: And um I uh so you know, all that's like I'm just dealing with the toe, trying to figure out what the heck I'm doing, like how I'm gonna finish this race.
21:01
SPEAKER_00: Um definitely behind.
21:02
SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to catch up on water, but because the aid stations were their place, like if you're not strategic and you're not ahead from the beginning, like you're you're cooked, you know.
21:11
SPEAKER_00: And um I was coming up onto I think it was like the mile, like 19 or 20 aid station, and I kind of ran into this guy, and we were kind of talking and pacing each other, encouraging each other.
21:24
SPEAKER_00: He was in pretty bad shape too.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: Um, I had told him about my toe.
21:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, at first I thought this guy felt sorry for me.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, but it come to find out he was not doing good too.
21:33
SPEAKER_00: We kind of finally we admitted that to each other.
21:35
SPEAKER_00: But uh we come up on this this aid station, it's like 19, 20 miles in.
21:39
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, okay, you know what?
21:40
SPEAKER_00: Like, I'll just sit here.
21:41
SPEAKER_00: I don't normally sit at aid stations, but I can sit 20, 30 minutes.
21:45
SPEAKER_01: Usually that's a bad idea.
21:46
SPEAKER_00: Try to come back.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh but when I get there, there's there's no water at this one.
21:50
SPEAKER_00: This is a no man uh water only aid station, and they come to fill it up like ever so often.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: There's like four jugs there.
21:58
SPEAKER_00: I guess it just got incredibly hot.
21:59
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: No water in any of them.
22:01
SPEAKER_00: Zero like so it was like, well crap.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: Like what like, you know, in the we're pretty remote area, and I'm like, I'm not stopping.
22:09
SPEAKER_00: Like I and I'm seeing like I'm kind of seeing like a yellowish, like green kind of like as I when I try to run, and I'm like freak I'm freaking out a little bit.
22:18
SPEAKER_01: I've never heard of that.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: It w maybe it's not, maybe it was just like kind of my I don't know, like I was I was panicking.
22:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm just saying God's sometimes I never looked up if that's like legit or not, but I was panicking.
22:31
SPEAKER_00: And luckily this guy was with me, so I felt okay, you know.
22:34
SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh, you know, I'm not gonna go down and no one's gonna come up on me.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: And I'm hoping, because you see hike you were seeing hikers out there like all day.
22:41
SPEAKER_00: So I'm hoping I'm running to a hiker and just beg them for some water, like you know, like um, never did.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: And it wasn't until the mile 26 aid station, which is the last one before the end, that we finally got back to uh there was food and water and stuff, and uh so that was the first place I like sat down for a good like 15-20 minutes to try to gather myself.
23:06
SPEAKER_00: But at that point, it's like dude, I'm at twenty mile twenty six, there's no way I'm not finishing like you know, like I'd probably have to walk two or three miles.
23:13
SPEAKER_00: There's a light at the end of the tunnel at that point.
23:16
SPEAKER_00: So uh me, me and this uh me and this this this guy that I'd met, uh we just kind of trekked it all the way into the to the end.
23:25
SPEAKER_00: But it took me like it was like an eight and a half hour, I think, uh 50k, which was was my longest at that point.
23:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's more my speed.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was finishing them in like six, seven, you know, six, seven, six, seven.
23:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh but that was rough, dude.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: That whole thing, like I've gotta go back.
23:43
SPEAKER_00: I I told myself I'm never doing that one again, ever.
23:46
SPEAKER_00: But now I'm kind of to the point where I'm like, man, I gotta go redeem myself.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: So um I'm hoping if this hip will allow me to, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go back in November and run it with Yasenia, who's gonna run it.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: Which one is it?
23:58
SPEAKER_00: The Big Texas Ultra.
24:00
SPEAKER_01: And where is it again?
24:01
SPEAKER_00: It's in uh it goes around Lake Georgetown.
24:04
SPEAKER_00: Like you do a full loop all the way around.
24:06
SPEAKER_01: What would you give the course as a difficulty rating?
24:10
SPEAKER_01: Oh self-inflicted problems aside.
24:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's so that's where I'm a little biased because obviously everything went wrong for me and I had broke my toe, which I didn't realize I broke my toe.
24:22
SPEAKER_00: Um, but dude, I would I would put that one at like a like an eight.
24:26
SPEAKER_00: Like really, maybe well, is for as many as I've done, if I'm ranking them based off the courses that I've run, I'm putting it at an eight.
24:33
SPEAKER_00: So that's one of the harder ones.
24:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely the hardest course that I've run.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: Now that's where I'm I'm hoping to go back and see, okay, was it that bad or was it was it just downright?
24:44
SPEAKER_00: Because it was a beautiful area, is what I'll say.
24:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, but there were sections that were like, I mean, you're on there's not a trail, it's rock, jagged rock.
24:54
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, there's no way people are running this.
24:55
SPEAKER_00: And there was like there's a it's a hundred K event too.
24:58
SPEAKER_00: And there was guys that did the 100K and like finished their 100k like right after I'm finishing my 50.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: Beasts.
25:07
SPEAKER_00: Which is crazy.
25:08
SPEAKER_00: That I'm like, dude, they did two loops.
25:09
SPEAKER_00: I I'd finished one, and they did they did two.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: How did they do that?
25:13
SPEAKER_01: Like Yeah, beasts.
25:15
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm looking for another one to do.
25:16
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what I'm gonna do.
25:17
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to wait till March, but I may have to.
25:21
SPEAKER_00: What are you looking at?
25:22
SPEAKER_00: Crazy desert in March?
25:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we'll see.
25:26
SPEAKER_00: You do gotta redeem yourself from that crazy desert the first time, huh?
25:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:31
SPEAKER_01: I mean what distance are you thinking about?
25:34
SPEAKER_01: 50?
25:35
SPEAKER_01: Probably just 50, yeah.
25:37
SPEAKER_01: We'll see.
25:39
SPEAKER_01: We'll see.
25:40
SPEAKER_01: Um what other stories do you have to do on another one?
25:43
SPEAKER_01: Um is it my turn?
25:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you go ahead.
25:47
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to embarrass myself anymore than I just did.
25:49
SPEAKER_01: Well go for it.
25:50
SPEAKER_01: It's too late for that for both of us, I think.
25:52
SPEAKER_01: Um being out of the trail a lot, probably see a lot of animals and so on and so forth.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:02
SPEAKER_01: Um which is always, I think, one of the better parts of trail running primarily versus running, you know, on the road.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I have a confession to make.
26:12
SPEAKER_00: Um I pray that I never see them.
26:14
SPEAKER_01: See what, animals?
26:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, bugs.
26:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:17
SPEAKER_01: I've seen two snakes.
26:18
SPEAKER_01: So you're not a critter guy?
26:19
SPEAKER_00: I'm not, no, not a critter guy.
26:21
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
26:21
SPEAKER_00: I'm a critter guy.
26:22
SPEAKER_00: I love the trails, but I don't want to see stuff.
26:25
SPEAKER_01: Well, I've seen a couple rattlesnakes and and no that kind of thing.
26:29
SPEAKER_00: That'll make me quit the whole sport altogether.
26:32
SPEAKER_01: Well, it well, it's gonna happen one day if you're running out here.
26:35
SPEAKER_01: So just be prepared for that.
26:37
SPEAKER_01: But there's one encounter in particular that I thought was pretty cool.
26:42
SPEAKER_01: And uh it was back when I was doing the long runs, you know, early in the morning, so I was running the first like two-thirds of it in the dark.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: And I was probably like an hour in, still dark, the sun hadn't even started coming up yet.
26:55
SPEAKER_01: And uh it was the moon was light enough to where I didn't have to use my headlamp.
27:01
SPEAKER_01: Because I prefer not to.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: Uh, because it kind of to me, it kind of gives me like tunnel vision.
27:06
SPEAKER_01: So I can see the trail really well, but I can't see in my peripheral at all when the when the headlights on, and I don't like that.
27:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:13
SPEAKER_01: So if if I can use the moonlight, I'd rather, which it's rare, but this is one of the mornings that I could.
27:19
SPEAKER_01: And I uh like I said, I've been running for an hour, and you know, you hear things running off, you know, it's like hogs and deer and stuff like that.
27:27
SPEAKER_01: But in the back of your mind, parties, at least me, I'm always like, what is it?
27:31
SPEAKER_01: You know?
27:32
SPEAKER_00: Oh dude, that to me that's the boogeyman.
27:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I I don't see it, but I uh I'm coming up on this turn out of the state park.
27:39
SPEAKER_01: It's you're on a single track and you cross uh like a fire road at one point and then you get back on a single track.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: And so when I kind of got out of the open where the fire road was, I saw these two eyes like in a bush.
27:54
SPEAKER_01: And uh like it's probably a deer or something, whatever, and they weren't moving, they weren't running, they were just staring at me, and I'm getting closer and closer, and they're not moving.
28:03
SPEAKER_01: And I finally get up within two or three feet, and for some reason, I guess this thing just thought I couldn't see it, because I'm certain if it did, it I it would have run away.
28:13
SPEAKER_01: There was a bobcat just laying there in the bush, staring at me like two feet away.
28:17
SPEAKER_01: I should have you should have wrestled at me.
28:19
SPEAKER_01: I could man, I don't know.
28:20
SPEAKER_01: I think I I think I lost.
28:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I could have pet it if like if it didn't run away.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: Oh, you were how close it was, yeah.
28:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was just staring at me.
28:28
SPEAKER_01: Heck no.
28:29
SPEAKER_01: And uh, I don't know.
28:30
SPEAKER_01: But that was pretty cool.
28:31
SPEAKER_01: That is dope.
28:32
SPEAKER_01: Pretty cool.
28:34
SPEAKER_00: Um talking on critters.
28:36
SPEAKER_00: So I've seen I saw like a little a tiny I don't know my snakes at all.
28:42
SPEAKER_00: Like to me, they're all dangerous, but I saw I've seen one tiny one at an event that like didn't like quite scare me, and it was kind of like you know, pshh, like went away.
28:51
SPEAKER_00: But uh there was uh like the second one I ever saw, which in in in my mind it was humongous, like seven, eight feet tall.
29:02
SPEAKER_00: And uh I mean maybe not tall, but long, whatever.
29:08
SPEAKER_00: And uh I I can't remember which course this was, but it was one where you had to do like a couple out and backs, and I was on my very last back, like home stretch, baby.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: Like, yes, we're almost done.
29:23
SPEAKER_00: And I'm so I'm booking it, I'm cooking.
29:26
SPEAKER_00: Uh, know that like you know it's okay if I deplete my stuff a little bit because I'm about to hit the finish, and uh, I come up like kind of on this clearing, and I look down and what do I see?
29:35
SPEAKER_00: That massive snake, and I just dead stop because I'm like, shit.
29:40
SPEAKER_01: What kind of snake?
29:41
SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
29:42
SPEAKER_00: So I just said I don't owe my snakes, but to me, this thing is like it's gonna kill me, like Anaconda style, wrap wrap me up and spit me out, and so I just didn't move, and I'm like, crap.
29:52
SPEAKER_00: At first, like I don't want another runner to come up and see how much of a wuss I am, like, but I also kind of want one to, so that maybe they'll scare it off.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: And so my strategy is I'm like, all right, I'm like decent away away from it, um, probably like five, six feet.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: So I bend down and pick up a rock and I throw a rock at it to hopefully spook it.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: Didn't do anything.
30:11
SPEAKER_00: Next thing in my reach was a stick, so I did that.
30:13
SPEAKER_00: I literally hit it with the stick, didn't move, and I'm like, what the heck, dude?
30:16
SPEAKER_00: What do I do?
30:17
SPEAKER_01: Was it dead?
30:18
SPEAKER_00: No, and it finally like I just sat there for what felt like 10 minutes.
30:21
SPEAKER_00: It was probably, I don't know, 45 seconds, and it finally just kind of slid it off the trail, and I just booked it, dude.
30:27
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, I like freaking triple jump, what's the what's the stick jump pole pole vaulted over this like area where it was?
30:38
SPEAKER_00: Uh but yeah, man, I that spooked me so bad.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: That's that's like my worst fear is seeing a rattlesnake.
30:44
SPEAKER_00: I've heard your story with the rattlesnake.
30:45
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
30:46
SPEAKER_00: Renee's running.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if you guys have seen uh Renee's video, if you haven't, scroll to the very bottom of our Instagram, it's there.
30:53
SPEAKER_01: Um I didn't know.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: You're supposed to tell this the front desk where they are at the state park so they can relocate them.
30:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:00
SPEAKER_01: Really?
31:00
SPEAKER_01: Somebody told me that.
31:02
SPEAKER_01: And that sounds well, okay.
31:03
SPEAKER_01: I don't know that.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: Relocate, you can't just like smash it with a rock.
31:06
SPEAKER_01: Like, but it sounds like something that would be true.
31:09
SPEAKER_01: Oh heck.
31:09
SPEAKER_01: And that they'd want to like try to move it away from where people are.
31:12
SPEAKER_01: But you know they're everywhere out there.
31:13
SPEAKER_00: Dude, yeah.
31:14
SPEAKER_00: What are you gonna relocate them?
31:16
SPEAKER_00: Like, dude, heck no.
31:17
SPEAKER_00: That's like I hope I never see one.
31:19
SPEAKER_00: That's like my worst fear about doing this stuff is running into wildlife.
31:23
SPEAKER_00: Well, brace yourself.
31:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's gonna happen.
31:25
SPEAKER_00: Don't play.
31:26
SPEAKER_01: I like running into the wildlife, maybe not rattlesnakes, but other stuff.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: I think it's cool to see to see what's out there.
31:32
SPEAKER_00: So um, so I'll uh how much time what are we at?
31:38
SPEAKER_00: We we doing okay?
31:39
SPEAKER_00: Are we boring people yet?
31:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh Wake Up! We probably need to wrap it up.
31:42
SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, let's wrap it up with this one.
31:45
SPEAKER_00: Um so now that you guys, you know, you've probably seen by now that uh Zach uh tragically broke his foot.
31:54
SPEAKER_00: Um hopefully we'll hopefully we'll have a story out there by now.
31:58
SPEAKER_00: If not, we will.
31:59
SPEAKER_00: Mini docuseries coming soon.
32:01
SPEAKER_00: Um It's really not that good of a but uh I think it's pretty amazing.
32:05
SPEAKER_00: Uh but uh now that he's back, if you get a chance to run with him, um speaking of from experience, just make sure you have all your all your proper gear uh with Zach.
32:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh do you remember the first time I ran with you on a trail?
32:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I do.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
32:22
SPEAKER_00: It was a good time.
32:23
SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
32:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:24
SPEAKER_01: It worked out.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: It worked out.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: But uh, so I remember I was already kind of nervous because I was kind of just getting into running and stuff, and I'm like, you know, this dude's showing me up, and uh, you know, get there thinking I've got all my gear and realize like, damn, I don't have my headlamp.
32:42
SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm like, well, maybe it's not that crazy.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: The sun should be up in a little bit.
32:45
SPEAKER_00: And then you pulled up and I told you, and you looked at me with the most disgust I've ever seen from a friend, a coach, my father, and I'm like, what is it?
32:58
SPEAKER_00: Do I need to go get it?
32:58
SPEAKER_00: And you're like, Well, I mean, I don't know, it's pretty dangerous.
33:02
SPEAKER_01: I was like, That's true.
33:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, look, I was concerned for you.
33:06
SPEAKER_01: You it's pitch black.
33:08
SPEAKER_01: You were gonna trip on a rock.
33:09
SPEAKER_00: You were, and break your toe.
33:11
SPEAKER_00: And that, dude, that I'll never forget that.
33:13
SPEAKER_00: That was hilarious.
33:14
SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, that's I ran with my remember, I had my phone light out like the whole time, and I'm trying to keep up with you so I can see because you were right.
33:21
SPEAKER_00: Once we got out there, it was so dark.
33:23
SPEAKER_00: And oh my gosh, but yeah, I remember that.
33:26
SPEAKER_00: And then uh you remember when I fell into that cactus?
33:29
SPEAKER_00: No, you don't remember that?
33:30
SPEAKER_00: No, dude, we were just kind of I I don't remember if it was that time or if it was a different time, but uh that was the craziest thing is like I we were just talking, and then all of a sudden I was on the ground.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: You don't remember that?
33:41
SPEAKER_00: It was all the like little I went right back.
33:43
SPEAKER_00: Are you sure I was there?
33:44
SPEAKER_01: Yes, it was definitely you.
33:46
SPEAKER_01: Was there other people there?
33:47
SPEAKER_01: No, it was just me and you.
33:49
SPEAKER_01: That wasn't one of the times we drug like Pablo and Jaime on it.
33:52
SPEAKER_00: No, no, this was literally me and you early morning.
33:54
SPEAKER_01: No, I don't remember that.
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SPEAKER_00: Completely just went down, like, and it was like all in my like my shoulder back here.
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SPEAKER_01: Gile.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Dang, I can't believe you don't remember that.
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SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so um bring your headlamp, maybe extra headlamp, and just leave it in your car if you run with Zach, because number one, he likes to run dumb early.
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SPEAKER_01: Better it's better just to walk around with one in your pocket at all times.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I actually have mine right here, like just in case you wanted it right now.
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SPEAKER_00: Good.
34:20
SPEAKER_00: But yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Stories from the trail.
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SPEAKER_00: Stories from the trail, baby.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Shoot them over to us.
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SPEAKER_00: We'd like to hear them.
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SPEAKER_00: Um if yours is better than Zach's Waco story, then you might uh you might receive yourself a little bit of coupon code for a free item to the store.
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SPEAKER_00: That's a pretty low bar, so so yeah, it should be pretty easy to to win.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Don't disappoint.
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SPEAKER_00: Age groupers, out.