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- 0:00Hi, everyone. This is Brian Zimmerman with Becker's
- 0:02Healthcare.
- 0:02Thank you so much for tuning in to
- 0:04the Becker's Healthcare podcast.
- 0:06Today, we're going to talk about AI and
- 0:08automation strategies to strengthen ASC margins in 2026.
- 0:12Joining me for today's discussion is doctor Farzad
- 0:15Masudi and and Sridhar Yermere. Doctor Masudi, Sridhar,
- 0:18thank you both for being here today. Let
- 0:20let's let's get going here. Would love each
- 0:22of you to share just a bit about
- 0:24yourselves,
- 0:25your your professional background journey, and then also
- 0:28maybe some some high level thoughts about what
- 0:30you believe is driving the increased urgency around
- 0:32margin management as ASCs head into 2026.
- 0:35Sreedhar, maybe you can you can get us
- 0:37started.
- 0:38Thanks, Brian, and thanks for having me. My
- 0:40name is Shridhar Eramreddy, the CEO of Stear
- 0:42Health. At Stear, our AI
- 0:45driven growth and automation platform specifically is designed
- 0:47to help healthcare organizations
- 0:49and including ASCs
- 0:51to operate at top of their license.
- 0:53And, you know, as we look towards 2026,
- 0:56right, and several ASC leaders have indicated there's
- 0:59a significant margin squeeze
- 1:01where operational costs, specifically labor and supplies, are
- 1:05raising much faster than reimbursements.
- 1:07While we know,
- 1:09you know, they're projected to be relatively flat
- 1:11or even the reimbursement rates are only seeing
- 1:14modest increases. Right? Around 1.5%
- 1:17while expenses are going triple or, you know,
- 1:19quadruple of that. So
- 1:22for AAC leaders, right, the days of relying
- 1:24solely upon volume growth to mask inefficiencies
- 1:28are over.
- 1:29And what we do at Steel Health is
- 1:31we bring this amped up mentality where, you
- 1:33know, we try
- 1:35to drive yield per operating room minute. If
- 1:38you your old wars have gaps, right, or
- 1:40if staff is bogged down and administrated, you
- 1:42rework.
- 1:43You aren't just losing time. Right? You're actually
- 1:45leaking margin,
- 1:46in an environment that no longer forgives it
- 1:48or can afford it. Right? That's how we
- 1:50look at the margins question in, 2025.
- 1:54Yeah. I I think you said it really
- 1:56really well when you when you you think
- 1:57about ASC leaders can no longer just rely
- 2:00on volume to mask inefficiencies.
- 2:02I think that that says a lot right
- 2:04there. Farzad, doctor Masudi,
- 2:06can you introduce yourself a bit? And, also,
- 2:09I is there anything you'd add to that
- 2:10list that that Shritar said?
- 2:12Absolutely.
- 2:13Yes. I'm Farzad Nasudi. Thank you for having
- 2:16me,
- 2:17participate in this podcast.
- 2:19Delighted to be here. I'm a full time
- 2:21practicing neurosurgeon. I've been in practice for twenty
- 2:23seven years in Orange County, Southern California.
- 2:26And, I've,
- 2:28had firsthand experience with operating out of variety
- 2:31of outpatient surgery centers as well as hospitals.
- 2:34And,
- 2:35I have a unique perspective on Steer Health
- 2:38because I'm not,
- 2:40just the end user of all their products
- 2:42and offerings in my own practice, but, I've
- 2:44had
- 2:45a helping hand in design and progression and
- 2:49advances in the Steer Health platform
- 2:51as one of the clinical advisors,
- 2:54and I've had the distinct honor of, serving
- 2:56on the board at Steer and working very
- 2:58closely with Sridhar and the leadership team. I
- 3:01think,
- 3:02health care,
- 3:03is,
- 3:04really at a crossroads.
- 3:06In my own experience over the last twenty
- 3:08seven years,
- 3:09We have really the gathering of a perfect
- 3:12storm when it comes to health care delivery
- 3:14in this country,
- 3:15specifically speaking in outpatient surgery centers and hospitals
- 3:19in particular.
- 3:21We have a increasing labor shortage,
- 3:24that is manifesting itself across the spectrum in
- 3:27health care,
- 3:29which is really colliding with inherent and baseline
- 3:32and, really
- 3:34embedded inefficiencies
- 3:36of the system,
- 3:38from a health care delivery standpoint as well
- 3:40as administrative,
- 3:41standpoint.
- 3:43And, it is really resulting
- 3:46in erosion
- 3:47of,
- 3:48profit margins,
- 3:50erosion of
- 3:51operational efficiencies,
- 3:53and,
- 3:54really putting a dent into the
- 3:57maximal and optimal utilization of the capacity of
- 3:59the surgery centers.
- 4:01And a lot of that is
- 4:04really the result
- 4:06of increasing
- 4:07administrative burden,
- 4:09repetitive tasks that, have a tendency to, fatigue
- 4:13and demoralize
- 4:14the already short labor
- 4:16and the staff that we have. And then
- 4:19some of the,
- 4:21unexpected things that can happen with patient care
- 4:24delivery and
- 4:26cancellations and delays leading up to surgeries and,
- 4:29the the procedures that have been scheduled. So
- 4:31we have a perfect storm here that is
- 4:34really eroding margins and eroding,
- 4:36labor morale.
- 4:38And, I think,
- 4:39we
- 4:40at Steer have
- 4:42really a good solution
- 4:44to these problems
- 4:45with AI enabled automation of processes,
- 4:50really stemming out of our experience deep experience
- 4:52with health care and our experience in the,
- 4:56trenches of health care delivery and patient care
- 4:58delivery as I've seen it in the past
- 5:00several years.
- 5:01Yeah. And and and Farzad, that that steers
- 5:04us right to where we wanna go next,
- 5:05which is really unpacking. I mean, I I
- 5:08think some folks out there, they they might
- 5:10realize this themselves already.
- 5:12But wanna unpack the why behind automation, why
- 5:16automation
- 5:17is the logical next lever for improving financial
- 5:19performance
- 5:20in this perfect storm. And and how really,
- 5:23how is it also helping ASCs better manage
- 5:25capacity and and workflow demands? Farzad, let let's
- 5:28begin with you.
- 5:29Well, you know, anytime you speak of automation,
- 5:33you have to be dealing with inherently a
- 5:35set of,
- 5:37highly important but repetitive
- 5:39tasks that actually need to be done with
- 5:41great degree of accuracy and precision
- 5:44in order to have optimal end results.
- 5:47And, you know, in that statement, we are
- 5:50characterizing, summarizing at least 90% of what happens
- 5:53in health care,
- 5:54from,
- 5:57to medical and cardiac evaluation of the patients
- 5:59preoperatively
- 6:00to optimization of the revenue cycle management and
- 6:03billing that goes along with the health care
- 6:05services.
- 6:07Many tasks are very laborious,
- 6:09but they are also predictable and repetitive.
- 6:12So when you are,
- 6:14faced with a situation like this, which is
- 6:17resulting in administrative inefficiencies and erosion of, profit
- 6:20margins,
- 6:21automation comes,
- 6:23very handy,
- 6:25and it's a highly effective tool. So,
- 6:28at Steer, we have spent a lot of
- 6:30time trying to perfect a platform
- 6:33that effectively and reliably and consistently
- 6:35automates these repetitive tasks with the end results
- 6:38that we really need to,
- 6:41be accurate and
- 6:43produce the optimal outcome for for the particular
- 6:46entity. So here, it's a situation that is,
- 6:50ideal
- 6:51for automation.
- 6:53And Shreedhar can, speak to how we've really
- 6:56taken this automation
- 6:57platform to the next level,
- 7:00with the introduction of AI and AI enabled
- 7:03automation
- 7:04that has really made it a hyper personalized
- 7:08and a very patient centric
- 7:10process and experience.
- 7:12Yeah. Fascinating to hear more there. Shreedhar, go
- 7:14ahead.
- 7:15Yeah. And then doctor Masuri articulated really well.
- 7:18I think all the work that goes into
- 7:19it, like, you know, obviously, terminology, like, t
- 7:22twenty one, twenty one days before surgery, fourteen
- 7:25days before, and seven days before.
- 7:27There's so many,
- 7:28little steps that can really impede or impact
- 7:31the surgeon's schedule or anesthesiologist's
- 7:33schedule the day before the surgery,
- 7:36causing issues. And if you look at, you
- 7:38know, last several decades,
- 7:40you know, throwing people at this problem is
- 7:42not the solution. I I truly believe in,
- 7:44the current time,
- 7:46automation is the only lever,
- 7:48that can actually scale and address some of
- 7:51these, repetitive
- 7:52tasks. Right? Because talent is not there. You
- 7:55know, the cost of hiring and, you know,
- 7:57also,
- 7:58the attrition is, you know, is very the
- 8:00costs are very high. The way
- 8:03we view,
- 8:04automation, right, is kind of like the difference
- 8:06between having your staff be drivers versus passengers.
- 8:10And what I mean by that is really
- 8:11right now, if you look at it, too
- 8:12many skilled nurses
- 8:14and surgical coordinators are passengers to bad workflows.
- 8:17You know, stuck on the phone, you know,
- 8:19trying to do the phone tagging or, like,
- 8:22you know, chasing insurance companies for prior auths
- 8:25or, you know, manually entering data between various
- 8:27things. These are the tasks that are very
- 8:30highly suited
- 8:31and purposely
- 8:32kind of, like, you know,
- 8:34manifested for machines to do really a good
- 8:36job.
- 8:37That's that's where we look at when we
- 8:39deploy
- 8:40automation. We're offloading these repetitive low value tasks,
- 8:44like all of them. This allows, like, you
- 8:46know, obviously, your your highly valued staff to
- 8:48focus entirely on clinical capacity,
- 8:51surgical outcomes, and patient care. It's not just
- 8:53about cutting costs, about increasing the velocity of
- 8:56your ASC operations.
- 8:57When you automate the intake,
- 8:59the risk factors and try to drive, you
- 9:01know, the prep work that goes before surgery
- 9:04in a very structured manner,
- 9:06and you have a virtual,
- 9:07assistant or agent take AI, we call it,
- 9:10do a lot of that lift, you now
- 9:12have, staff that's kind of really freed up,
- 9:15and you could run more cases per day
- 9:16with the same headcount.
- 9:18That's where I call pure margin ex expansion
- 9:20can happen.
- 9:21Yeah. And I I wanna get to something
- 9:23that sort of or unpack a bit more,
- 9:25something you you stated at the beginning of
- 9:26of your response there, which is really the
- 9:29challenges around that scheduling variability
- 9:31that's sort of a constant in in in
- 9:33the ASC world.
- 9:35Can can you get into some details about
- 9:36how precisely AI and automation
- 9:39are helping organizations
- 9:40shift from sort of this reactive response to
- 9:43potential cancellations or issues with scheduling toward a
- 9:46more proactive approach for for managing and and
- 9:49and filling up open AOR time?
- 9:52Yeah. Brian, great question. And this is one
- 9:54of the biggest wins or opportunities we see.
- 9:57Traditionally, if you look at an ASC, a
- 9:59cancellation at 2PM for the next more next
- 10:02morning was a kind of a dead slot.
- 10:04So you receive a cancellation request 2PM today
- 10:07for tomorrow's
- 10:08morning search day at 10:10AM.
- 10:11It it it was lost revenue because no
- 10:13human could scramble and fast enough to really
- 10:16get that slot reoccupied. Right? So
- 10:18what we have moved from reactive to proactive
- 10:20by using what we call smart backfill
- 10:23and waitlist auto pull. So our
- 10:26technology and platform doesn't just see an empty
- 10:29slot. It it manages the wait list, identifies
- 10:31patients who are clinically cleared
- 10:33and insurance ready, and we can automatically reach
- 10:37out to make sure we can put that
- 10:39patient on that on that surgeon's schedule without
- 10:42impacting them. Right? Again, we do that via
- 10:45omnichannel approach. But, again, a lot of prep
- 10:47work that goes into it. Right? Again, we
- 10:49are keeping that ASC that that surgeon spot
- 10:52valued highly and make sure they're practicing on
- 10:54top of their license. If your patient, a,
- 10:57a, that has, you know,
- 10:59a a a tennis elbow surgery is dropped
- 11:01off, we can pick the next one that
- 11:03could fit into the same spectrum
- 11:04and be able to do that. Right? So,
- 11:06again, it's,
- 11:08turning a manual chaotic scramble into seamless automated
- 11:10work workflow. So that's how kind of, like,
- 11:12we're essentially playing, you know, what they call
- 11:14Tetris with the OR schedule in real time,
- 11:17ensuring the block utilization remains high without burning
- 11:20out the scheduling team. So we're keeping that
- 11:22OR utilization optimal,
- 11:24without the manual headaches and workflows involved.
- 11:27Yeah. You you're you're playing Tetris, but you're
- 11:29doing it very well. Correct. It's just like
- 11:31I I think anybody who's played Tetris, you
- 11:33you understand what it looks like when the
- 11:35the the things go awry during that game.
- 11:38Right, Tritar?
- 11:40Yes. Absolutely. And that and that's where the
- 11:42structure comes into play. And, you know, again,
- 11:44type of depending on type of surgery, what
- 11:46the process, and that's where our our smart
- 11:48backfill is and kind of things fit in
- 11:51with the right spectrum of surgical procedures that
- 11:53fit into the one that get just got
- 11:55canceled. And these are the things that we
- 11:57go in, in detail as we kind of,
- 12:00onboard clients and stuff and understand those spectrum.
- 12:02But ultimately, Brian, it's about saving the surgeons
- 12:05time and and the procedure and making sure
- 12:08that it's optimized and, you know, the patients
- 12:10are getting the care and make and and
- 12:12particularly,
- 12:13assessing those steps carefully.
- 12:16That's excellent. Doctor Masudi, can you speak to
- 12:18this from sort of the end user perspective?
- 12:21Absolutely. I I think, Shrirhar articulated it very
- 12:23well, and just to highlight some of the,
- 12:27great points that he raised. As a surgeon
- 12:29over the years,
- 12:31last minute cancellations
- 12:33because of avoidable issues and problems and challenges
- 12:36have always been a big issue in my
- 12:39practice and the practices of my colleagues.
- 12:42A cardiac clearance that should have been done
- 12:44three weeks before surgery gets done the way
- 12:46the day before. And of course, it reveals
- 12:49something that prohibits
- 12:51us from proceeding with surgery is one example
- 12:53of it, which is actually happens with quite
- 12:56a bit of frequency.
- 12:57So, really,
- 13:00the combination,
- 13:01I would say the brilliant combination of multi
- 13:04agentic
- 13:05AI platform,
- 13:07enabling our automation,
- 13:09processes,
- 13:11has been a really an effective billion solution
- 13:13for these problems. And the way I would
- 13:15characterize this,
- 13:17what AI has done for Steer platform, what
- 13:19it has done for surgeons and,
- 13:22our clients across the country is it has
- 13:25provided an anticipatory
- 13:27and proactive,
- 13:29platform in which we can deal with issues
- 13:32and predict them and predict problems
- 13:34before they really arise to a point where
- 13:37they interfere with the daily flow of,
- 13:40surgeries and operations and, for instance, an outpatient
- 13:43surgery center
- 13:44and,
- 13:45anticipating problems or recognizing patterns
- 13:49of, for instance, delay in medical and cardiac
- 13:52clearance or abnormal laboratories that, are not discovered
- 13:56until it's too late and really having generated
- 14:00a system of and,
- 14:03a catalog of,
- 14:05alternatives when it comes to surgeries to be
- 14:07able to, as Rudhar put it, backfill
- 14:10a surgical
- 14:11slot that has been not been been made
- 14:14vacant,
- 14:15literally last minute,
- 14:17are tremendous tools,
- 14:19that now we have at our disposal
- 14:22to,
- 14:23increase and enhance our,
- 14:25operational efficiencies,
- 14:27enhance predictability
- 14:28of a particular day,
- 14:30days work, worth of workflow
- 14:33at a surgery center in the hospital.
- 14:35It really does,
- 14:37tend to relax
- 14:39the general temperament
- 14:40of the staff because they're not worried about
- 14:42all these unpredictable things that can happen last
- 14:45minute.
- 14:46Improves patient care and patient flow processes.
- 14:49And at the end of the day, you
- 14:50know, we're living in an environment in a
- 14:51world where everything is very patient centric.
- 14:54Everybody is customer service oriented,
- 14:57and it just really results in better patient
- 14:59care service,
- 15:01higher satisfaction rates. And, you know, has
- 15:04referred this,
- 15:06to before as,
- 15:08really intelligent optimization of,
- 15:11untapped capacity,
- 15:13of surgery centers and hospitals,
- 15:16that you really are operating to the maximal,
- 15:19ceiling of potential you have as opposed to
- 15:22having,
- 15:23deficiencies and inefficiencies
- 15:25undermine your
- 15:26profitability and clinical outcome.
- 15:29Yeah.
- 15:30And beyond sort of even just the the
- 15:32scheduling component, the the the OR optimization component
- 15:36that can,
- 15:37you know, boost revenue and help financial performance,
- 15:40so much of this front end work that
- 15:41has implications
- 15:42for for revenue in other ways too, thinking
- 15:45through making sure registration is correct, verification or
- 15:48estimates to prevent denials. Right? Because denials
- 15:51and administrative rework are a major challenge for
- 15:54for for ASC. So can can you unpack
- 15:56that a little bit too about how this
- 15:58kind of stuff can help get in front
- 16:00of denials, prevent them before they even get
- 16:02going? Farzad, maybe we'll begin with you and
- 16:03then Absolutely. Shreedha, it'll be from you too.
- 16:06One of, one of the accomplishments we're proud
- 16:09of and one of our claims to fame
- 16:11is how we have really through automation and,
- 16:14multiagentic
- 16:15AI, enablement
- 16:17have really optimized your revenue cycle management.
- 16:20And a big part of, optimization of revenue
- 16:23cycle management is, again, that sort of an
- 16:25anticipatory
- 16:26proactive intervention
- 16:27in terms of, really checking all the boxes,
- 16:30making sure that the claims that are generated
- 16:33are administratively
- 16:35well founded.
- 16:36And actually these days, we can,
- 16:39even
- 16:40optimize the combination
- 16:42of CPT codes and claims that are submitted
- 16:44to the insurance company before they're submitted
- 16:47and then have a a really an automated
- 16:50AI enabled,
- 16:51process that we can,
- 16:53go back to deny claims
- 16:56and resubmit the claims with adequate explanation and
- 17:00clinical support and documentation to maximize,
- 17:03our turnovers on denial. So revenue cycle management
- 17:07in its all aspects and forms from the
- 17:09day, the moment the patient gets registered to
- 17:11when the CPT claims are generated and how
- 17:14the denials are met and dealt with,
- 17:17are a big part of this
- 17:20picture
- 17:21where centers,
- 17:22doctors, and hospitals are struggling,
- 17:25with a declining revenue stream and how we
- 17:27can optimize that revenue cycle management through this
- 17:30very stepwise
- 17:32proactive anticipatory
- 17:34intervention.
- 17:35Excellent. Shreedhar, what would you what would you
- 17:37add there? And then be curious too if
- 17:39you you you could you could anchor us
- 17:41with maybe a specific success story in terms
- 17:43of what this looks like when you get
- 17:45capacity management and RCM automation right.
- 17:48Absolutely, Brian. And doctor Masuri articulated really well.
- 17:51The point I want to highlight is
- 17:53the battle for margins as we started this
- 17:55conversation is really either won or lost days
- 17:58before the patient enters the facility.
- 18:00I think this is where we call, like,
- 18:02you know, automation of the entire financial clearance
- 18:05phase,
- 18:06which will basically includes, you know, insurance eligibility.
- 18:10But most importantly, prior authorization,
- 18:12preparation,
- 18:13along with apply applying agentic AI. You You
- 18:16know, pay yourself sophisticated mechanisms around things. How
- 18:19do you really counter, kind of, like, you
- 18:21know, provide,
- 18:22equal footing of really being able to approve,
- 18:25get those approvals on time. And, you know,
- 18:27along with it, sending good faith estimates to
- 18:29patients ahead of time. Right? These are things
- 18:32we do and streamline this and what we
- 18:33call, like, the financial clearance space. So our
- 18:36system
- 18:37can can flag an authorization issue or coverage
- 18:40gap instantly,
- 18:41and then identify whether this this is a
- 18:43case that might get really delayed or someone
- 18:45needs to get on the phone. And and
- 18:47this way, I call human in the loop
- 18:48what flows to make sure that things that
- 18:51are really streamlined, automated, can still be addressed.
- 18:54Things like again, when you automate this, you
- 18:55can reduce the sticker shock for patients and
- 18:58also send, you know, automated, you know,
- 19:00notifications. So all parties, including
- 19:03surgeon's office, the the anesthesiologist,
- 19:06and everyone is, like, all kept in the
- 19:07loop and remove that administrative burden for the
- 19:10financial side. Now to your second part of
- 19:12your question, right, you know, we work with
- 19:14several ASCs, but I'll bring, like, you know,
- 19:16a high performance surgical group in in Chicago,
- 19:19you know, that really embodies the shift. Like,
- 19:21they deal with, you know, high acuity, spine,
- 19:23orthopedic cases, you know, where an empty slot
- 19:26can be incredibly expensive. Right? So
- 19:28before working with Steer, they faced a typical
- 19:31bottleneck staff, but it didn't phone calls,
- 19:34late cancellations, manual prep,
- 19:36and engagement gaps. Right? By implementing,
- 19:40some of the workflows that we have we
- 19:41have discussed so far, the automated,
- 19:44kind of, you know, what we call the
- 19:45surgical patient journey,
- 19:47from the initial referral all the way, you
- 19:50know, through
- 19:52t twenty one fourteen seven.
- 19:54These things that are really specific to insurance
- 19:57or financial clearances.
- 19:59And also, the second part of it is,
- 20:01like, you know, clinical
- 20:02clearances, risk assessments. When you do risk assessments,
- 20:05right, also applying AI to see, you know,
- 20:07what are other other considerations or factorial,
- 20:10things that can come into play. I think
- 20:12these are elements, again, that are extremely
- 20:14kind of automated, which we have all done
- 20:16manually before. The result is
- 20:18significant increase in provider and staff engagement
- 20:21because the the busy work disappeared. So,
- 20:25one of their spine surgeons noted that, you
- 20:26know, patients were showing up better prepared for
- 20:28surgery
- 20:29because the education the patient education sequences are
- 20:32working.
- 20:33And and that's ultimately, that's where we see
- 20:35and they saw detection in note in the
- 20:37late last minute cancellations.
- 20:40That's what we take pride in. We look
- 20:41at the current state and really apply those
- 20:43anchors to figure out what are the next
- 20:45best steps so we can kind of what
- 20:47I call crawl, walk, run, identify the pain
- 20:50points and solve those things and then get
- 20:52to the next one. Because we provide entire
- 20:54spectrum
- 20:55of, you know, patient journey in the surgical
- 20:57workflow workflow on top of the HR.
- 21:00Excellent. Appreciate, you getting into those specifics there.
- 21:03Before I let you gentlemen go, I wanna
- 21:05tap on each of you to to share
- 21:07any closing thoughts you might have. Maybe it's
- 21:09something you wanna reemphasize from our conversation today.
- 21:12Maybe it's a a a new thought, or
- 21:14or something you weren't able to get to
- 21:16in some of our our previous,
- 21:18questions. Farzad, let's begin with you. What what
- 21:21what closing thoughts would you like to leave
- 21:22our listeners with? In closing,
- 21:25I would like to, just,
- 21:27remind our listeners
- 21:28fact that health care is in a very
- 21:30unique,
- 21:32crossroads.
- 21:33We are really realizing
- 21:34the kinds of inefficiencies and problems that health
- 21:37care delivery and patient care delivery in this
- 21:39country has. And ultimately, it's gonna come come
- 21:42down to
- 21:43hospitals and surgery centers and medical groups that
- 21:46utilize
- 21:47automation processes and AI enabled platforms
- 21:50to enhance revenue streams, enhance
- 21:53operational efficiencies, and improve patient satisfaction rates versus
- 21:56those who don't have these platforms.
- 21:59And I think the,
- 22:00organizations
- 22:01that avail themselves,
- 22:03of these new technological breakthroughs that, for instance,
- 22:07Steer Health can offer are at a clear
- 22:09competitive advantage compared to the ones that choose
- 22:12not to. And there's gonna be a bifurcation
- 22:15in the road to success and prosperity,
- 22:18in the future of these organizations
- 22:20in a very close imminent future.
- 22:23Thank you, doctor Masudi. Tredart, what do you
- 22:25have? Yeah. I think, my closing thought for
- 22:28the audience, I think, you know, I think
- 22:29we are what I call, like, an infinite
- 22:31game in ASCs.
- 22:33The goal isn't just to survive. You know,
- 22:35now with the
- 22:37technologies and agent EKI that we offer,
- 22:40you know, I think it's it is to
- 22:41build an operating system that allows you to
- 22:44adapt faster than the rest of the market.
- 22:46I would say don't wait for the perfect
- 22:48time to modernize. You know, velocity matters.
- 22:51How your staff experience, surgeons experience matters.
- 22:55I would say start automating the small friction
- 22:57points today, and you will build a momentum
- 22:59to tackle the big ones very soon. So
- 23:01I think in the coming year, I think
- 23:03I do see, like, lot of ASCs, you
- 23:05know, kind of leveraging agentic workflows.
- 23:08Some are doing it today, but, you know,
- 23:09other again, adoption rates will be much more
- 23:12imagine an AI that notices a denial for
- 23:15a case, logs into the patient portal, and
- 23:17initiates the appeal draft for a human to
- 23:19review. I think that's where we're heading. I
- 23:21think we're
- 23:22automating the pre op, post op communications, I
- 23:25think, is where really the game is going
- 23:26to be rewarding for people that, you know,
- 23:28really act, and do it effectively.
- 23:31Shreedhar, appreciate you. Farzad, thank you so much.
- 23:34It's always a a pleasure speaking to both
- 23:36of you. Thank you so much for coming
- 23:37on the podcast.
- 23:38Thank you, Brian.
- 23:40Thank you, Brian. Appreciate it. Also wanna thank
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