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From the Pit to Purpose: Faith, Film, and Bringing Light to the Hidden with Ginger Cressman! · Anchored by the Sword

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  Thank you for joining me on this episode of the Anchor by the
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  Sword podcast. I pray that today's episode will
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  leave you encouraged and also challenged in your faith.
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  And I pray that you would take the stories that are talked
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  about here today and share them with other people.
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  Thank you so much for joining me and enjoy today's episode.
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  Hey guys, welcome to this episode, the Anchor by the Sword
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  podcast. I am so excited to finally get a
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  chance to connect with Ginger Craftsman to learn more about
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  her, all of the things and the huge project she's working on
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  that she wants to invite each of you to become a part of.
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  So, Ginger, thank you for joining me today.
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  Yes, thank you so much. I'm excited to finally meet you
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  and beyond here. So thank you, thank you, thank
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  you. Absolutely.
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  Can you tell the listeners a little bit about yourself?
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  Well, I am just a regular person like everybody else, but I'm
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  blessed to be on here today. So I am a mother, a wife, an
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  actress and a producer. And that's just a little tiny
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  snippet of who I am. Of course, I'm Christian as
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  well. It's the podcast invitation, but
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  that is me. I love it.
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  So let's talk about your personal freedom story.
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  So I grew up in a Christian home.
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  I'm from Tennessee. If you guys hear the accent,
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  that is what you are hearing. And my dad became a pastor when
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  I was five years old. So I grew up in the church.
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  My dad was a pastor, My mom had been a Christian her whole life.
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  And my dad got saved when he was in his 30s and then not long
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  after that became a pastor. So I grew up in the church, we
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  live next to the church. I play in the church yard, run
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  barefoot across our gravel to go ask my dad something if he was
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  over there working on the computer, working on a sermon or
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  something like that. So I grew up knowing all about
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  God. I had a relationship with God
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  from a very young age because I had such good influences and was
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  able to know God for myself. So as time went on, of course,
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  you become a teenager and I went to college during my college
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  years. I went to college to becoming a
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  an elementary teacher, which I did teach for five years.
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  But while I was in college, well, actually let me back up a
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  little bit. My mother, when I was 14 years
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  old, she was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease.
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  And so that was really hard on her family because if you don't
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  know what it is, basically it takes away your ability to do
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  things over time. And there's, it's something that
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  there's not a cure for. So that was really hard on me as
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  a teenager and on all of us because what do you do when your
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  mom is needing help now and not you?
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  So it it was hard. So a few years later I start
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  college and that's when I went into the phase that a lot of
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  people go in once they get just the teeniest smidge of freedom.
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  So I had a whole lot of drinking, whole lot of partying,
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  a lot of walking away from God. It was weird though, because I
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  would still, because I was so used to talking to God my whole
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  life, I would still talk to God during this time of trying to
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  get away from God. So and it, it's interesting,
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  it's different if you've known God and you're walking away from
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  him. It's completely different than
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  having never known him because the whole time that I was doing
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  anything while we're crazy or out there, I knew what I was
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  doing the whole time because God was still trying to talk to me.
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  I was still his child this whole time.
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  He's still trying to draw me back in.
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  And so eventually I went through a very rough period of anxiety
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  and depression. And it's funny when I tell
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  people's story, they're like really gingering it up.
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  Save anything like any of that. No, it was horrible time period
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  of my life, depression, anxiety and rock bottom as far as I
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  could hit. And I, I did not want to be
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  alive anymore. So I couldn't even feel anything
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  anymore. It was legit.
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  I didn't have emotions. The only emotions I had was
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  sadness or and pretty much sadness was the only thing, a
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  little bit of hurt maybe. I'd also dated some people and
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  hung out with a whole lot of people I shouldn't have been
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  with. So all that's mixed into this,
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  too. And my parents were pretty much
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  the ones who, especially my dad, because we didn't want to put a
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  lot of pressure on my mom, who still reached in and pulled me
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  up out of the mud. And, you know, I'm telling my
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  dad stories. Don't be telling your daddy
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  these bad stories and stuff. But.
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  But you know, I didn't tell him every little thing, right?
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  Right. Yeah, you know, he still gave me
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  a hand. He prayed for me.
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  He he watched over me and helped me get out of the pit that I was
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  in. But God hit me upside the head
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  hard. And I'm glad that he did because
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  I knew what I was doing all along.
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  And I think a lot of the guilt and weight of what are you
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  doing? Because you know me and you've
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  always known me. I'm saying that is God, but
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  you've always known me. So what are you doing?
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  And I remember praying this was in my dorm room.
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  So it was a long time ago, but I'm on my knees.
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  I'm praying to God and I'm like, help me Get Me Out of this.
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  You know, I need you. And I started reading my Bible
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  again, going to church events, whatever I could find.
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  It didn't matter if I belong to that church or not.
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  Who cares? Me and God, we're going to God
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  and we're going to, you know, I was going to hear from him.
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  Whether it didn't matter what the pastor was actually up there
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  even talking about, that didn't matter.
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  Me and God, we were going to have a time and I'm so grateful
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  and I'm so thankful honestly, that God lets us go through that
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  hard stuff. My anxiety was so bad that I
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  would think, and I had never had anxiety before because I know
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  that's a natural thing with some people and hormonal imbalances,
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  things like that. I'm not talking about that.
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  This was just calls but life that I've been living.
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  But my anxiety was so bad that I couldn't even ride in a car for
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  a few minutes without feeling like I was going to have a panic
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  attack or I needed to get out. I always had to have in my head
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  an exit plan for anything that popped up because I didn't know
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  I was going to be OK. But that didn't always work, the
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  exit plan thing. So bitch, like I just had to,
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  you know what? If something does happen, I just
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  fall over and I'm dead. But I'm going to be with God and
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  you know what? I'll be OK.
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  And that was that was the way that I had to talk myself out of
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  it and be OK because God was with me through so much and he's
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  so good. He's so good to us.
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  He sees when we're doing that stuff and he, he holds on to us
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  anyway. He's just, he's just so good to
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  us. And so, you know, I have not
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  been perfect since then. I'm still a little bit of it all
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  over the place. Person here and there, though an
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  adult now with children. And my God, he's way more good
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  to us than we are to him. And he's way more good to us
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  than we deserve. So that's a little bit of that
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  background of that story. Thank you so much for sharing.
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  And you know, I came to God in my teen years when I was 16 and
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  walked away when I was 20 and then didn't find my way back for
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  14 years. But he was still always there
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  and a thought in the mind not, you know, there wasn't a slap in
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  the head until later that came in 14.
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  And it still comes once in a while too.
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  It does, thankfully. We need that.
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  Absolutely. So what Bible verse or verses do
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  you consider your anchor verses? Well, I have so many different
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  verses that pop up at the time that I need them.
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  And because I have, and I said this before, but I'm not good at
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  memorizing numbers or where anything's located in the Bible.
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  But a lot of it's, it's just in there and it comes to mind when
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  it's needed, right? It's one of them is this.
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  And my mother, my mother, he was always so strong through her
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  illness. And I don't say this because I'm
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  her daughter. She was the best person in the
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  world that there ever was. She was so good.
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  She never did anything wrong. I'm serious.
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  But so to watch her suffer, though, over all those years
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  made, you know, that's hard because, you know, OK, if
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  anybody in the world does not deserve this, it is her.
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  She does not deserve this. If anybody, I deserve much
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  worse. But she passed away in 2021 and
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  she had filled out this whole book for me though, from mother
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  to daughter and just stuff about her life and things like that.
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  And she wrote this Bible verse in there and it's such a good
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  one. And it's Deuteronomy 31, eight.
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  The Lord himself goes before you.
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  He will be with you. He will never leave you nor
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  forsake you. Do not be afraid or discouraged.
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  And that one comes to mind all the time.
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  And it comes to mind and her handwriting in that book,
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  because she went through a lot and it was not stuff that she
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  brought on herself, but she went through a lot.
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  And Jesus is right there with her all the time.
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  And he, he didn't leave her first side and she made it
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  through. And she is in the best place
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  that she could possibly be now at this point.
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  And someday I'm going to be there, too.
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  And that's a verse that I cling to because when things go wrong,
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  we don't know what's going to come up.
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  I don't know what's going to come up when I go to lunch in a
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  little while. I don't know what's going to
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  happen, but she's going to be there.
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  So yeah. Yeah, my, my mom died in 2013,
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  and then my grandma passed away in 2014.
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  And she was the one she had the devotionals in the Bible, and
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  she would not do anything except for take care of my grandpa
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  needed something. And then she would be reading
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  her Bible in those devotionals. And I still have one or two
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  devotionals up there as well. And yeah, I wouldn't be here if
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  it wasn't for her. So watching her.
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  Yeah, that was what that was. One of the smacks across my head
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  is watching her go through her cancer journey.
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  It's like, do you want to have the assurance that she does,
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  that she knows that she knows that she knows that when she
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  leaves this earth, the next time she opens her eyes is going to
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  see Jesus? Like, do you want that
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  assurance? Yeah.
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  OK. Yeah, OK.
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  I'm sorry, so true though. And me too.
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  Because I think even now I'm like, you know, I want to see my
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  mother again. I want to see Jesus and you
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  know, I want to see my Mama again that even that helps
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  anchor me too along with so much that's in the Bible is OK.
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  You know what? She made it through and as hard
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  as that was for me to lose her because I cried every day for a
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  month at least. Then I cried every other day.
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  Then I cried a few times a week. It literally like tapered itself
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  off to now it's random. Things will hit me and I might
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  cry because it's so random and then I'll be like, oh, I don't
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  want to cry. I don't like crying.
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  I got it. Now we know what you're thinking
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  when you have to do a crying scene.
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  I'll be like, I know what she's thinking about right now.
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  I honestly rarely go there when I'm working because I try not to
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  go to the depths of the bad place, but sometimes.
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  Side note then to make myself cry.
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  Country music. Country music just makes me want
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  to cry. And then I had a scene where I
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  had cancer in this movie and I was literally listening to a
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  country song on my phone like right before they were going to
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  film. And then I turned it off and
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  hide it under my dress and it didn't be all sad.
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  Whatever. You got to do right a tree.
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  They just hits me when it's not about drinking and somebody's
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  dog dying and all that, right? Especially 90s country.
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  It's like, Oh my gosh, like Tim a girl, Oh my gosh.
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  The one song, the one song he sang about his dad, it was that
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  song. Live like you were dying.
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  Oh yeah, no. Matter what mood I'm in, I could
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  be in the happiest mood and I will be sobbing, crying during
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  that song. That's true music for you.
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  And I'll tell you what the song was.
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  Let's make myself cry. My daughter.
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  Is she 14? She's 13.
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  I'm scared though. Taylor Swift.
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  Stupid song about your kids. Don't ever grow up.
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  Just stay little. That stinking song, If you've
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  never heard it, I don't know. I don't know if you have any
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  kids. That song makes me cry.
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  So stupid song to make myself. Sorry, Taylor, it's not stupid.
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  That wonderful song to make. Myself, Oh my gosh, yeah, I
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  know. We, oh, there's so many songs
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  Plum because I, I was a huge Plum fan back in the yeah, back
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  in the late 90s and early 2000s. And she sang a song off, it was
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  off the Blink album. And the reason I remember this
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  so much is because it was when my nephew Dylan was born.
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  And it was actually a song that was written because her friend's
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  baby died. And so, but every time, I mean,
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  it's like talking about curly cues, even though he didn't have
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  curly cues, but the blue eyes. And I'm sitting there going
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  like, that song will always make me cry too.
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  And he's going to be 19 in March.
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  Like that song will still put me in a pole.
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  I'm like. Remembering when he was born,
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  I'm like, Oh my gosh. Exactly.
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  It's awful. So let's talk about how did
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  first of all, how did you get into acting?
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  So when I was in high school, the first thing was I started
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  off as a model. I still do some modeling.
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  I don't talk about it as much because it's just, to me, a
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  break from acting really. But when I was a teenager, there
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  was a teacher that had a fashion club in the high schools and the
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  clubs you could join. So I joined her club and she had
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  a Mary Kay party and invited us to it.
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  And she had this photographer come and take pictures.
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  And he was like, oh, have you ever modeled before?
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  I can't believe you've never modeled before.
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  So I'm like, oh, fine, I'm going to be a model now.
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  And then I made a little portfolio and all that and I got
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  an agent there in Nashville and I did a little bit of modeling,
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  a little bit of like commercial stuff, music videos.
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  No real like thing though. So and then Fast forward, get
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  married, have kids, teach school, run around doing all
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  that stuff. And then I started feeling this
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  tug. It's so much in my spirit.
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  I really want to be in Christian movies and where we live right
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  now in Alabama, beautiful city. It's on the gulf.
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  We moved down here on purpose to be near the water from the
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  Nashville area. And I started telling my husband
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  though, as much as we love it down here, should we move back
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  to Nashville or something like why am I, why am I feeling like
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  this? We just need to go up there and
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  do this thing or something. Then I find out that they are
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  filming Jesus Revolution 10 minutes from my my house.
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  And I'm like, OK, so I'm going to get in that movie.
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  And I signed up to be an extra. I didn't know what that even
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  really was, even though I'd done set stuff.
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  But like, I didn't know how these big huge sets like that
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  run or anything like that. But I signed up and this was
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  during COVID, so I had gotten this featured, this agent lady
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  had gotten me to potentially be a featured role in it.
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  But then I didn't get to do it because you had to have your
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  COVID shot to be on set. That was like a rule that they
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  had. And I hadn't had my COVID shot.
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  And so I didn't get to go be on set at first because of that.
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  And I thought, Oh no, I really have to be in movies.
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  I went and got my COVID shot and and I won't blame that on the
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  earth. With brothers, I don't know who
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  I mean not the I mean the other brother.
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  I don't know who made that rule. Like with all the big shows, you
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  had to be vaccinated to be in the movie.
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  And it was early COVID. Yep.
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  And so. I'm like, OK, fine.
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  So I went and did it and it ended up being perfect anyway
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  because I finally got on set. I got told on set you're going
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  to be Hersh's wife. And I'm like, OK, cool, who's
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  that? And what, what does that mean?
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  So he was the lead Deacon in the movie, so the big tall grumpy
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  man. And I was just trying to be his
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  wife, the judgement old little lady sitting beside him.
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  And it just went on from there. After that movie, I was like, so
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  addicted to doing this. I'm just rolling a million times
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  I've wanted to quit, though, a million times I've said what am
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  I doing? And I was in my head quitting
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  way too often until finally I talked to God because a lot of
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  my prayers are Lord, if you don't want me to do whatever
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  specific job is out there because I'm in secular breweries
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  too. I'm in commercials, I'm in
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  whatever pops up that I get booked on that isn't, you know,
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  nasty and but still pray, you know, God, if you don't want me
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  to do this, lock the door and close it because I'm prone to
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  just going. I went on plowing through and
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  doing whatever. So I pray that all the time when
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  I have a chance to be in something.
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  But finally I because I was sick of trying to quit all the time
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  and because it's hard. This mystery is hard.
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  And I said, all right, Lord, just when you want me to stop
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  telling me to quit, I'll quit. I don't care.
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  My life is not being an actress is what I'm doing.
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  None of that me. It's just what I'm doing right
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  now. But I need you to close these
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  doors when you want them shut because it's really hard to
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  tell. And I can get into my own head
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  too much and get in my own way is so much that I can't tell
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  what God wants anymore because I'm just in my own head and I
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  want to shut up. So now I'm like, Lord, I'm not
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  going to quit that because I know he didn't call me to
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  something for me to be all wishy washy up and down about it.
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  I can't do that. I'd have to do it.
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  I have to do the thing until he tells me quit doing the thing.
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  So that is where I'm at right now.
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  But after Jesus revolution I just.
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  I've been working ever since. That's awesome.
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  I was telling you when we were offline that I've been an extra
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  in a movie and now ATV series and I can totally understand.
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  Like it's so fun now when I see movies and I see TV shows, I
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  start to see the things in the background.
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  Like I start to see things a little different than what I did
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  when I was just watching something.
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  It's just, it was so much fun to be able to be a part of it.
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  And I can see how you can easily get the bug, and then I can also
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  see how easily it can get stressed.
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  Yeah, exactly, Exactly. Being an extra.
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  I've been an extra and a whole lot of shows.
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  And that was the main thing I was doing at first because I'm
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  going to 2 1/2 hours from New Orleans and there are a whole
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  lot of big shows that cast a lot of extras over there.
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  So I was going over there, going on at 1st and having fun doing
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  that, but. Yeah, I live, I live about 40
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  minutes from Sugar Creek. So anytime I hear about their
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  because they're filming something in Sugar Creek right
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  now, but I was a little late to the cast sign up or the extra
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  sign up so I just missed it. But that's OK.
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  There's so much stuff going down there in Sugar Creek, but it is
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  gorgeous down there. Very cool.
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  I have never been over there but I've seen those almost shows and
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  I I love period pieces or really cool costumes.
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  And I thought when I saw my friend was booked on an episode,
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  I guess I don't know, I thought, oh, that would be so fun.
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  Well, the reason I got into it is Micah Hanson, She's the one
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  that got me into it. She's she's involved in both.
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  She's been a guest on the podcast and also she's involved
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  in my book and she's the one that got me into being an extra.
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  And so my husband and I got to do it for the movie and then we
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  each did so many of the episodes.
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  So it's so fun. It is.
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  It is addictive. Well, it's either fun to you or
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  you hate it because I've met people on set that are like you
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  People really do this? What are you doing?
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  I'm never doing this again. Yeah, it's.
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  It can. It depends on who you're working
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  with. So that makes.
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  A difference? Yeah, Yeah.
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  So now you have this. Project that you're.
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  Working on called The Hidden, let's talk about where this
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  story comes from, the premise of it, and also how other people
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  can get involved. Oh yes, absolutely.
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  So I was working on another movie.
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  I was a producer on a movie up in Ohio, and it's a Christian
• 21:50
  movie as well. It's called The Waiting Room.
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  So we were up there and we met. When I say we, I'm talking about
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  the person that's writing The Hidden.
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  His name is Steve Moon. He's also going to be a
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  director, producer of it. I'm a producer of it also.
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  So we met this guy who runs an outreach center.
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  It's a church. It's called the Dream Center.
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  Yeah, and. They have a homeless ministry.
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  They have these Wednesday night, Wednesday night church for the
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  inner city kids and the pastor himself goes on a bus and picks
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  up the kids and brings them there and then they do a service
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  and everything was so outreach oriented.
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  They. So across the parking lot,
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  there's a center called the Women of Alabaster.
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  And they have an outreach for women who are on the street, who
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  are addicts, who are prostitutes, who are in the, you
• 22:43
  know, horrible trenches of life. And they have an outreach for
• 22:46
  them. So they have a whole center and
• 22:48
  they let us use it for the movie.
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  Everybody there was so accommodating.
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  By the way, that doesn't mean everybody go try to book your
• 22:54
  movie there. But I'm just saying they were so
• 22:56
  accommodating. They were so friendly.
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  They were so, yeah, whatever you need here, it's yours.
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  Go for it. And so they have a clothing
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  closet there for these women. They have showers, they have
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  cots that they can sleep on to get some actual safe rest off
• 23:12
  the streets. They have meals there.
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  And we were just so incredibly inspired by these people.
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  And right now in my life, I'm an actress.
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  I'm not a pastor. I'm not any of those things
• 23:24
  right now. What I'm not even teaching right
• 23:26
  now. I'm an actress.
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  So what can I do? I want to, I want to help some
• 23:31
  people. So what can I do?
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  I know what I can do. I can make a movie.
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  And so we are producing this movie called The Hidden.
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  I am going to play a prostitute in the movie and an addict as
• 23:44
  well. It's going to be the deepest,
• 23:47
  roughest Ross, most difficult role that I have ever done for
• 23:51
  sure. We've been speaking to the lady
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  who works at that outreach center and specifically her name
• 24:00
  is Scarlett. We've been talking to her to get
• 24:02
  some stories, some ideas, some inspiration, because we they
• 24:06
  want everything in the movie to be as realistic as it can.
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  Obviously we're not going to show all the things that happen
• 24:12
  in their life, but you'll be. Able to go?
• 24:15
  Yeah. You'll get the, you'll get the
• 24:17
  picture. So we want to honor the women
• 24:21
  that we're making this for and men too, that we're making this
• 24:25
  for. And so it's going to follow me.
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  It's almost going to be documentary style, as if I am
• 24:31
  someone on the streets dealing with this stuff.
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  And then we're going to have some people portraying people
• 24:36
  that are doing ministry, like the outreach people that work at
• 24:40
  those outreaches that we've met. And we hope that with this, it
• 24:46
  can be yet another tool for places like those outreaches to
• 24:50
  use to show their girls, their women, and something that maybe
• 24:56
  they can watch and identify with and feel that there is some hope
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  that God is real, that somebody does care about them and that
• 25:04
  there is a way out eventually. And I've been reading stories,
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  I've been, I've been in contact with people who've gone through
• 25:12
  and things and I'm doing as much research as I can on my engine
• 25:16
  for my character, but also to talk to the director and writer
• 25:21
  so that he can make things as realistic as they can be, but
• 25:26
  also something that can actually help people.
• 25:29
  That's the whole goal of The thing is that.
• 25:31
  And so we even decided it's not just for people that are
• 25:34
  prostitutes or drug addicts, just people in their dark
• 25:36
  places. There is.
• 25:38
  That's the point. I've been, like I said before,
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  in a dark place and somebody, my dad reached in and helped me.
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  We want this to be an extension of that hand for people, and we
• 25:54
  can't do it in this movie in a soft way.
• 25:57
  It can't be soft. These people are not in a soft,
• 26:00
  fluffy moment of their life right now, and we need to reach
• 26:06
  them. I want to honor them and the
• 26:08
  reason we want to make it, not Hollywood looking and realistic.
• 26:12
  I want to honor the people. Even though they're in this
• 26:14
  rough season, So what? There are people who are going
• 26:17
  through something. We've all been through
• 26:19
  something. I want to honor those people by
• 26:20
  making it good, make the movie good.
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  So we are doing some crowdfunding for that right now
• 26:31
  on Give Send Go and we have we have it pretty low.
• 26:36
  It's at 50,000 so enough that we can get the top people that we
• 26:42
  work with on bigger movies when we produce those to be involved
• 26:46
  and be able to be on crew to have it have the best look that
• 26:50
  it can. And also the myself and the
• 26:54
  director both. When we work on movies, we wear
• 26:56
  a million hats because a lot of times we've spent together
• 26:59
  create something on this. We want him to just direct.
• 27:02
  We want the crew to be able to each have their spots so that we
• 27:06
  can all focus to work together to make it with excellent.
• 27:10
  So it's really important to me to do the movie justice for the
• 27:15
  audience. We're also going to after it's
• 27:18
  completed. We've never done this before,
• 27:20
  but I plan on putting the full movie on YouTube, just available
• 27:25
  for free to the public. Because the point in this movie
• 27:29
  is not for us to make money. The point is not for us to get
• 27:33
  it sold. The point is not for us to get
• 27:35
  in theaters. The point is not to even
• 27:37
  entertain. None of that's the point in this
• 27:40
  one. Reach people is the purpose.
• 27:42
  So we're going to have it up for people to watch for free on a
• 27:45
  platform that pretty much everybody in the world that has
• 27:48
  access to a phone has access to. We're also probably going to try
• 27:52
  to get it and we will still submit it to Amazon Prime and
• 27:55
  Tubi and have it on some other platforms, but we want it to be
• 27:59
  as widely available as it can be.
• 28:01
  It won't be. Let's license this to your
• 28:03
  church. Pay US money and then you can
• 28:05
  show it to people. It will be here if this.
• 28:08
  Take it, use it, it's yours. Start a study with it.
• 28:11
  We don't care, but we just want to reach people and gives them
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  go is where we're crowdfunding for it right now.
• 28:18
  Right after that, we're going straight into casting and
• 28:20
  straight into production. Even if we don't reach our goal
• 28:23
  though of 50,000, we're still going to make it with what we do
• 28:27
  receive in donations because this, the guy that's directing
• 28:31
  this thing, he can make a full feature on a phone by himself
• 28:35
  and it looked amazing. And we do that all the time
• 28:37
  actually. So but we're going to take what
• 28:40
  we get and we're going to put it to the best use we can, you
• 28:42
  know, paying cast, paying crew, paying for food, that kind of
• 28:45
  stuff, just to to be able to do the thing and get it going.
• 28:48
  So yeah, that's what it is. That's awesome.
• 28:52
  And you guys, I'm going to put a link in the show notes today so
• 28:55
  that you guys can be a part of that.
• 28:57
  I think it's such a great opportunity because most people
• 29:01
  don't want to think about those topics.
• 29:03
  Most people want to like shove them under a rug and pretend
• 29:07
  like they don't exist. But you and I are talking during
• 29:11
  Human Trafficking Awareness Month in January.
• 29:14
  And so this is something my friend has a center in in Ohio
• 29:21
  that helps young girls coming out of human trafficking.
• 29:24
  So human trafficking and prostitution, all that stuff
• 29:27
  does exist. And it's something that we all
• 29:29
  need to take a look at, not in a condemning way, but we all need
• 29:32
  to take a look at in what would Jesus do for these people and
• 29:35
  how would he help them? Just like how he helped us, how
• 29:37
  he helped you, how he's pulled all of us out of some dark,
• 29:42
  nasty pit that we've all been in.
• 29:45
  Yes, yes. So I have loved our conversation
• 29:50
  both on and off camera today. So where can people find you and
• 29:57
  keep up with what you're doing? Well, if you want you can check
• 30:00
  out my IMDb and there's always new movies and shows added on
• 30:04
  there. So that's one way just to check
• 30:07
  it out. And then you can also follow
• 30:09
  along on Facebook, which I have facebook.com back slash, the
• 30:13
  real Ginger Crestman. That is how to find on Instagram
• 30:18
  also. I will put links to all of that
• 30:20
  in the show notes. Ginger, thank you so much for
• 30:23
  talking with me today. What is one last piece of
• 30:26
  encouragement that you would have for someone today?
• 30:29
  Just don't give up and just keep going.
• 30:32
  If God told you to do something, do it.
• 30:34
  Don't let anybody else get in your head or get in your way and
• 30:37
  don't let yourself get in your way or beat yourself up.
• 30:41
  Forgive yourself, let go of whatever is hindering you and
• 30:45
  move forward. Just keep going.
• 30:47
  That's all we can do day by day. Just keep going.
• 30:50
  Leave yesterday and yesterday. Amen.
• 30:52
  Absolutely. So you guys, I'll talk to you
• 30:54
  guys next episode and go check out all things Ginger.
• 30:59
  Thank you so much for joining me for this episode, the Anchor by
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  the Sore podcast. I pray that the story that you
• 31:04
  heard today will encourage your faith, challenge your faith, and
• 31:08
  also help you as you walk in your daily life.
• 31:11
  If this episode has done that, please feel free to leave a five
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  star rating and review wherever you listen to this podcast so
• 31:19
  that others can find it and grow as well.
• 31:22
  Have a blessed week and I'll talk to you next episode.