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Top 10 Power Forwards for 2025-2026 · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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Alright, you guys are ready. Yes, Sir.
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Barbara Bound Bound Bangor Management Fantasy Hockey
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Podcast Whoo whoo whoo. That was so civil, so much more
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civil than usual. It's almost civil.
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Civil sometimes. Yeah, yeah.
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A little unexpected, to be honest.
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I was ready for whatever kind of woo you were gonna.
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Pull. I'm always keeping you on your
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toes, so sometimes not doing anything is also keeping you on
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your. Toes, the expected is the
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unexpected. Some translatable skills for
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draft time. You know, all the unexpected
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stuff Kevin does. If we're drafting near each
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other this year, it's OHK. Before recorded this, Josh and I
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did a mock draft together since we had some time and we drafted
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right next to each other and he was pretty upset that he was
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drafting after me. He kept sniping all my guys
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every time. I was like, I can't believe this
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guy's falling this far. Kevin was thinking the exact
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same thing, but he wouldn't tell me either.
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This thing was on a call together and it's a mock draft.
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He's like, he's like. Slowing.
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It's yeah, it's gonna be a very exciting.
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I don't wanna be anywhere near you guys in the draft order.
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I think that I care about that more than where I.
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Am all three of us right in in an order?
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It's gonna happen. Yeah, well, we'll see what the
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duck races decides. That's.
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What I'm hoping for, All right, let's get into it.
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Today. We are going to do the top 10
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power forwards for this year's welcome all the Bangor
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management, the Fantasy Hockey Podcast with Jake, Josh and
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Kevin and it's an exciting one, especially for Bangers leagues.
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This is huge, but it could also be pretty relevance for points
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leagues. This this feels like the the
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classic bangers league episode. Like these are the four words
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that you wanna own that really contribute to not only bangers,
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but also like at a high level for points and shots and
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everything. So these are these are the guys
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are going to be studs in your bankers leads.
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Yeah, and it was interesting. I was talking about this, me and
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Kevin were talk about the list before you hopped on.
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And they're not all bunched in the same round.
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Like you can get a lot of these guys in the same draft.
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So it's very interesting. Like you can build a team that
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is just unbeatable at shots and hits while also, you know, being
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solid at points if you grab a lot of these guys.
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So so stay tuned. That's what it did last time.
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It worked out pretty well. It's getting really be the bread
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and butter for your fantasy team.
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Actually looking at the list that we have and we're about to
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get into it, but I feel like our top ten, I think we had 80% of
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the top ten like on all three of our teams combined.
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That doesn't surprise me. Actually though.
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Yeah, we we know what we're doing out here.
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Before we dive in, you can follow us on Spotify, Apple
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Should we start with? #10.
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No, actually, we're gonna start some honorable mentions, but
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sorry. Honorable Mentions.
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So there's gonna be some pretty big names on this one.
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So I like sleeping more. Excited for the top ten that
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these guys didn't even make it. But we've got Matthew Kuchuk.
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That's a big asterisk on that one because if he wasn't injured
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starting the season, he would be in the top ten.
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Then you've got Timo Meyer, Drake Batherson, Dylan Cousins,
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Sam Bennett and Joel Erickson Eck.
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If I had to choose one guy on this list that are absolutely
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one of my team, you already know who it is.
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But it's, yeah, Dylan Cousins. He loves Cousins.
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I want him on all my teams. If Alabama of you sorry.
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Yeah. Sorry to all the Alabama fans,
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that was a joke. I didn't like to make all the
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cool team names, you know? Name 1.
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Alabama cousins. Touché.
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If you're from Alabama, we still love you.
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Please don't log out or click out.
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Anyways, yeah, so the the quality of these honorable
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mentions should get everyone very hyped about this top ten
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that we're about to dive into. Although I will say little note,
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I feel like Matthew could Chuck slowed down into his category
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ever since he went to Florida. Pimm's Pimm's he's still up
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there because he's just he's just a little little guy.
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You know, he's always really he's the king of getting 1010
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minute games comics when there's.
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Like last minute. Like one second left in the game
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or something so. Yeah, it's one of those things.
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It's like it doesn't affect anything in real life, but it
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just swings your entire match up in your favor if you haven't.
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Imagine his Pimm's carried into the next game.
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That would be a. Would be fun.
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Would be interesting actually if that was actually a real rule,
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but OK #10. #10 I try not to put him too early cuz I don't want
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people to accusing us of being homers, but I think he deserves
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to be in this top ten list. We've got Uri, Slavkov, Sky.
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So last year his stats were .65 points per game at 1.7 shots and
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2.5 hits. But that's season wide and he
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took a significant step up after Four Nations last year.
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So if you can keep it going all season long, then he should take
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a big step forward this year in terms of just general fantasy,
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but also specifically bangers. I love this. 1.
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Love this one. And I think he's going to be
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higher on this list next year, to be honest.
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Yeah, I was gonna say, I feel like right now this is kind of
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like the floor because we saw what he did after the All Star
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game and I feel like that's the kind of slap that we see to
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start the year this year. And we saw him really take over
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matchups. Like he was hitting sometimes
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over 5A game, he was blocking so much.
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Like that's just out of nowhere. And if you're a blocks league
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with hits, getting that many blocks from a forward is just
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insane value. I think I, I really think that
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if he submits his spot in the on the top line on power play 1 and
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has no risk of getting bumped like he can be a star power
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forward in the league, like he'll be top five next year for
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sure. Yeah, I see this like, you know,
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see him going for around 65 points this year.
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Could be a double, double, maybe even 2.5 shots, 2.5 hits.
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Also has that blocking upside, which is cool.
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And, you know, maybe he'll start getting good on the Pimms.
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You know, it's like, I feel like pins won't be his game, but I
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mean, if he's hitting and blocking and shooting like
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that's. We've seen him get feisty
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though, you know, like, yeah, if he gets in that zone, he could
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definitely take some some penalties.
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Yeah, he's got a bit of an ego, too.
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I forget what star player called him out on that be like.
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Yeah, he's a bit cocky. Like if you plant yourself in
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front of the net and start chirping, there's gonna be some
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Pimms coming in there. Yeah, for sure.
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And I think it's great. You guys mentioned about the
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blocks. I had him last year after Four
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Nations. He had a game where he put up
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seven hits and five blocks. And obviously that's like one
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game. And you know, he's not gonna
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average something crazy like that.
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But like, you like looking at a guy stealing, you know, and in
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terms of back, that's a pretty ridiculous ceiling to have.
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That's what we hope from Noah Dobson this year.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, I love this.
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Totally into it I think. We just say one last thing
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before the next guy is I feel like if you look at the last
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shooting percentage last year was at 13.5% and I just feel
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like that's that's low for the other guys that he's playing
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with. And I feel like I wouldn't be
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surprised if he even bumps that up, you know, like a 15 or 16%.
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And already that's just so many more points that you can add to
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is a statute. Yeah, it's not even a bad
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shooting percentage, but the main thing is that he plants
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himself in front of the net. So like especially on the power
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play, being the net front guy, you would expect that number to
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positively regress. Yeah, whether it's tips or just
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banging in those easy rebounds, that's where you wanna be.
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Yeah, totally. #9. 9 alright #9 I put him ahead of Slaugh so
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that again, I don't want any Homer allegations, but I think
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they're, they're pretty close. But I'm very high on this guy
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and it's Matthew Knives with the Toronto Maple Leafs.
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Last year he had .74 points, two shots per game and 2.3 hits
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already a double double. And this year he should be
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taking a big step because with Marner gone, he's going to be
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stapled to Matthews on line one on power play. 1 And he's
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exactly Berube's type of player. No, I, I love Matthew nice this
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year. I feel like where he's going in
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drafts as well. If you look at Yahoo ADP that
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just recently got released, like he, he's going to be a value in
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your league. I think they're underselling how
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many points he's going to get this year.
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Like they're taking him for like around 60 points.
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I think he can easily hover around 80 points per game
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points. Per game.
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On the season. How is he not #1?
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Absolutely. 80 points per game drafted down.
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But also last year, like his shooting percentage was at 19%.
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I feel like it's going under the radar with how good he was.
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Now he's gonna be, you know, he's he's Matthews guy right
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now. Like he's going to be cemented
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on that line 1 left wing. I think he has a super high
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ceiling this year. Yeah, together they're Matthew
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Matthews. Yeah, exactly.
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That's my two cents on the topic.
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That's great. Love it.
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He's great. I actually, I think we spoke
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about this. I still prefer Slaugh a little,
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but the comforting part with NYS is there's absolutely no threat
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0 whatsoever to him on power play on line one.
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This is the chemistry that the Leafs are gonna wanna build for
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many years to come with Matthew and Eyes and Matthews.
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Of course. If Nylander goes there, all the
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better, but even if not, there's still a huge, huge pathway for
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Nice to succeed. So I love it.
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Yeah. I mean a 19% shooting percentage
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that's, you know, one goal every five shots.
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And if he's going to be taking a lot more shots this year,
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because it be a lot on the ice a lot more, I mean, we can already
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expect his his points threshold to go up.
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So. So where I see that actually
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impacting is that he's gonna get more assist because that is a
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high shooting percentage. So I can still see him like, and
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he got 29 goals in 78 games. So I expect him to get around 30
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goals, but maybe close to like 50 assists because he's playing
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with arguably the best goal scorer in.
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The world, I think he could easily get like 30 goals, 50
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assists, 80 points. That's what I'm thinking too.
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Yeah, and I mean, there's also something to be said about the I
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test and if you watch them in the playoffs, he was just
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unbelievable and he played, I think he played some short
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handed. So that could be something
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interesting to look out for. I think the the big thing is we
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know that, you know, he's tied to Matthews, right?
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So if Matthews gets hurt, I feel like that does significantly
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impact his value. But at the end of the day, you
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can't project for that. You just got to do with what's
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on what's on the paper. And everybody's worried about
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Matthews not having Manor anymore and if he's gonna keep
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scoring goals. But what if Nice is just that
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dude? So that's why #9.
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Yeah, poor Josh had to write out this next one.
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Yeah #8 Josh's favorite. Alright, yeah, yeah, make fun of
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me all you want. Honestly, if I had my way, he
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wouldn't have even been on the top ten list.
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But he deserves it, even though he underperforms every year.
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But we've got a #8 Andre Svechnikov, last year stats were
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.67 points per game, 2.5 shots, 2.1 hits.
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And and he also contributes in Pimms if your league counts
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that. And I mean he's just, he's got
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the talent, he puts up the bangers numbers.
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It's really just the points where he is not doing as well as
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he should. And we've talked about Rod being
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a limiter, a fantasy limiter. You know, that's definitely a
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big aspect of it, that certain point.
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You know it's got to be on him to take that step as well,
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right? They they I mean, when I say
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that I'm talking about like, you know, hockey analysts out there
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and commentators, like they always said, that sketch is like
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one of the best players to not hit fifty goals a game.
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Like the best, the best 5050 goal scorer who's never hit
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fifty goals. Like him and Cofield.
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They feel like the classic guy in that conversation.
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But I mean, all the guys on this list are gonna be walking double
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double s most likely, right? Two shots, two hits.
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I think he's the guy that's been doing it for so long.
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It's really just the points that really put the ceiling on his
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value, right. But let's say to put him line
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1P1 for an entire season, I think he I think he is instantly
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probably a top three guy. Just what are the odds of Rod
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doing that right? Low, True.
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Every year we say that. Honestly, though, he might be.
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He might be one of the bigger draft values though, because I
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think he's going a lot later on this list than you would
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anticipate. In some, in some leagues, he's
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even falling into round 6. I feel like if you get a guy
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like this that can get this many shots and hits in round six in a
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bangers league, that's just like free value it feels like.
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Yeah, and if you look at his past few years, last year was by
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far his worst point per game year 48 and 72, just because
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Jaws drafted him like it's rough.
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I didn't draft him, I traded for.
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Him, Oh my God, even. Worse, he missed.
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He missed time, though. And like whenever you missed
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time, it's like not only the games that you missed, but also
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like the games where you're hurt and the games coming back, like
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you get eased into it again. So it really does impact the
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averages. But yeah, definitely the best
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season. Right.
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But OK, so two years he's missed time every year except for his
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rookie year, He only he played 82.
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Last year, he played 72 games, 48 points.
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The year before that, 59 games, 52 points.
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Yeah, you know, and 13 less games, you got three more
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points. Is Peshkov cooked or was it just
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a? Really, it's all a deployment
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question. Like last year he even spent
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time on line 3. It's unheard of.
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That's Rod for hundreds fetching Nikov online.
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Three like, make it make sense, you know?
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Yeah. And then with the addition of
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Ellers as well, that's another guy to kind of get in his way of
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good production, right. You've got the guarantees of
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Aho, Eilers and Jarvis, I think are the three guarantees in
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terms of that first power play unit along with Gostisbehere.
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And I mean, we have seen Rod put like Jackson Blake or stuff and
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Mason or something like that, you know, in that fifth power
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play spot instead of switching POV.
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It's not impossible to think that's gonna happen again.
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Rod feels like the type of coach to make his players skate like
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her. Brooks didn't Miracle.
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I mean. No spoilers, Kevin's never seen.
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It yeah, no, I didn't listen. I did hear anything you said.
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What I was going to say was I feel like I'm the biggest fan of
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Switch Nikov on this podcast and this is the first year that I'm
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just like, I wish you could see my face right now, but it's like
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it's like a. Uncertain.
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Yeah, very uncertain. That's the one.
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That's the word we should use. But.
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Yeah I mean all that to be said he still deserves to be #8 on
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this list cuz his banger cats are so unreal and he's like
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worst season was .67 points so that with with great bangers
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cats is still a guy you're very happy to have.
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Yeah, it's not a guy taking top 4 rounds.
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Yeah, it's just frustrating because you know, he could do so
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much better. And then what if this is the
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year he does so much better, You know, that's why he's always
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very. That's the opposite of the guys
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who are like, what if this is the year he finally drops off
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like an Ovechkin, right? You know, like it's the it's the
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opposite thing. It's like, do you risk getting
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him because this is the one he drops off?
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In this case, it's do you grab him?
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Because this year he could pop off so.
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Yeah, because the thing also is that, you know, you love him
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when he's on fire. Like I think the start last
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year, he was like one of the best players in fantasy.
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Like he was popping off and then next thing you know, you know,
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Carolina, Carolina is in a little bit of a a rough period
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and they're mixing up the lines and he ends up on power plate 2
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and line 3. And you're like, I just drafted
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this guy in the fifth round and he has one of the worst
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deployments on my fantasy team. And then at that point you're
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like, I wanna trade him, but nobody said trade for him.
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So we're kind of stuck holding the bag.
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And it's just extremely frustrating to watch.
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So maybe avoiding the headache is is the best course of action,
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but at a certain point like he's too valuable to have on your
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team. So that's it's about, it's about
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getting him at the value spot, you know, don't take him versus
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someone else who's more, you know, guaranteed that
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deployment. But if you can get him and like
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we said, like around six or something like that, that's
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pretty. Pretty good round 6 Ventura
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around 7 Slough. That's really tough.
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Devans laugh. I think, yeah.
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Because Slav also has his own power play questions too.
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Like there's always. A chance that he might get
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bumped down, yeah. Yeah, but you have a coach Saint
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Louis wants Slap to offensively succeed, whereas Rod just hates
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all fantasy hockey. That's a really good.
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Point but we also know that saying that we once line it to
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offensively succeed and he's been online for before so.
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Yeah, but the team is very much more invested in Sloughs
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progress than Lynas. Lynas a free agent after this
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year. Obviously they could resign him
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if he does well or a slap. We just locked up to 8 years
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like he was the number one overall pick.
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Like that's who they're dedicated.
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To I think, I think it's definitely interesting though,
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because on our line, obviously it's Suzuki and and Cofield,
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right? That third spot obviously is
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slap right now, but I would not be shocked at all if during the
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year the Canadians are struggling and they put them off
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there, you know what I mean? Like what?
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They're not bumping off Cofield so.
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It'll be interesting to see for sure, but that's why that's why
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these guys are #8 and #10 on the list and not higher.
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A lot more uncertainty, yeah, but let's talk about #7.
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Alright, at #7 this guy's especially really good if you're
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in a faceoff wins league. Vincent Trocheck of the New York
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Rangers last year .72 points, 2.5 shots, 2.6 hits and a bunch
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of faceoff wins as well which is just really great value for
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where you get them. I think last year Zibanejad
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might have been getting drafted higher than Trojak and I think
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even this year, like a lot of people, views a bandage out as
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the centre to have on the Rangers, but I think it's
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Trocheck. The only downside is if he gets
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bumped off our play one, that's a big, you know, cap, But even
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with that, he still puts up great bangers category numbers.
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There are few players that I hate playing against the fantasy
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hockey more than Vincent Trocheck.
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Every single time my opponent has him, I just.
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I mean, he's like Mark Stone to you guys, but.
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He's. Yours.
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No, like that's it. Trocheck is such a valuable
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bangers league guy year after year.
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I mean, since like the Florida days, he's just been such a
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stud. Every team he succeeds
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everywhere he goes. And I think that New York, we
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all think the Rangers are a very solid positive regression team.
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The power play one spot is if he truly, I don't even think he's
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gonna get it, but it almost doesn't even matter for his
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value. Like his bank accounts are so
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solidified. His faceoffs are amazing.
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And yeah, sure, he may get 5-7 less points on the season, but
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week to week that may be negligible for your points.
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And if he does crack that power play 1 like this guy's a stud.
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Yeah. And regardless of power play
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one, he's definitely line 1 enter at even strength.
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So his even strength deployment is gonna be amazing and the
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bangers cats come regardless of the power play 1.
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So that's more of like an upside as opposed to a risk in my point
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of view. The one, the one thing with show
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track though, that I'm definitely like monitoring is
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obviously the power play time is crucial for his offensive value.
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And if he doesn't get that power play, like no matter how good of
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a banger is, I'd rather have fetching coffee.
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What I mean? No, I disagree.
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If something is power play 2 and such as power play 1.
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If I have that guarantee coming into this year, but they're
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still volatility with Schmackos lines, meaning he could be line
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three, I would take Trocheck. Because if you look at project
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last year, I feel like that was the first year that he had,
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let's say, a decrease in his points.
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So, you know, you have the question this year as well with
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JT there, you know, Project could end up being line 2C
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technically. And if he's not on power plate
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one, I think it's gonna be sick for bangers.
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Like he's the type of guy that could average three shots, three
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hits, which is insane value for bangers leagues, but I
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understand why he's going a little later in in in drafts.
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He still should be drafted ahead of his Majad, obviously, but
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there's just that slight piece in the back of my mind that I'm
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just like, what if he takes another step back and points?
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And yeah, he's great for bangers.
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But at that point, you know, I you could get like a Sam
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Bennett. And I think you're just the
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same. You just draft him expecting
19:40
similar points to last year and if he gets that power play one.
19:43
It's just an upside. Don't draft him expecting him.
19:47
To his price is pretty expensive for a guy that you're expecting
19:50
to get Power Play 2 and Power Play 1 is addressing upside
19:52
though. Yeah, but that's because of how
19:55
good he is at his bangers. Yeah, like they're really elite.
19:58
Yeah, there's no, there's no question for the deployment and
20:02
the deployment equals more Bangor stud categories, but
20:06
we're especially of. To your point, also, like we saw
20:09
all of New York kind of suck last year.
20:11
So yeah, if they bounce back, project probably bounces back
20:14
too. So it's just in the background
20:16
back. They should bounce back,
20:18
especially offensively. I think their defence sucks.
20:23
Yeah. I mean, yeah, they traded.
20:24
On otherwise, I mean they they got an amazing goalie and they
20:28
have really, really those top 2 lines are sick.
20:32
If I like him, I like a lot. I mean a lot.
20:35
Of great, I'd be super happy to have him on my team.
20:36
For Bangers League, yeah he's nuts, but yeah, it's.
20:42
Project or Robert Thomas. Different archetype?
20:46
Yeah, different archetype. I mean if you look at
20:49
projections like Robert Thomas gonna get like 90 points this
20:51
year. Yeah, and I love Robert Thomas,
20:53
so I'm just curious what you guys think.
20:56
Hmm. I think I'm going with, I guess
21:00
I would go Thomas just because of that, you know, like we've
21:03
been talking about deployment, right, he's the main guy and.
21:07
The Blues are gonna be good this year.
21:08
Yeah, but it doesn't mean I don't want to say that to take
21:12
away from track. I'm still very high on track.
21:14
Yeah, that's. One is definitely the PowerPoint
21:15
is definitely a question mark. It's not like I'm not saying
21:18
it's great that he's not guaranteed, probably one.
21:20
I'm just saying that it doesn't take away from how good he is at
21:22
the rest of his categories. Yeah, totally agree.
21:25
Speaking of Saint Louis. I thought you were gonna try it.
21:30
No. Here's the guy.
21:33
Alright, I'm the guy. You're Elijah Woods, Bruce
21:36
Spikes. 3. The references keep making it
21:40
back. Alright, at number six we have
21:42
my best friend from last season, Dylan Holloway of the Saint
21:45
Louis Blues. Just lost his mind.
21:49
I, he, I literally traded validity was part of a trade
21:52
outgoing for Dylan Holloway. So, you know, sorry Vilardi, but
21:56
Holloway is my new best friend. But yeah, if you if you own this
22:00
guy last year first. You won't get 120 points after
22:03
he heard you say. That if you owned this guy last
22:05
year, you probably picked him up off free agency, so you pretty
22:09
much got him for free and he was unreal, especially towards the
22:12
end of the season. Over the whole season he had .82
22:15
points, 2.3 shots, 2.1 hits, but that's counting the beginning of
22:19
the season where he really didn't do that much.
22:21
So the fact that he was able to perform at such a high level
22:25
towards the end of the season makes you think that if you can
22:27
pull that together for a whole season, he's going to be such a
22:30
value pick up in the draft this year because he still doesn't
22:32
have that name value. So you can get him later than
22:34
you should for a player who has this potential.
22:38
I just want to say I think I'd rather have Robert Thomas over
22:40
Vincent Trocheck. Now for Dylan Holloway, I feel
22:46
like he's going to be yet another draft day value because
22:50
where his ADP is, his name value has not caught up to what he did
22:54
on the ice last year. And I feel like even, no, even
22:58
taken ahead of ADP, he's still going to be a value.
23:01
This guy was insane. Saint Louis, I think are gonna
23:04
be starting off the season much stronger than they did last
23:07
year, right? So I think he has all the tools
23:10
to, to set himself up to be a huge banger league stud this
23:14
year. I, I would love to have him.
23:16
I feel like he's going to be one of our three teams this year.
23:20
I'm probably gonna reach on him. Yeah, I think Josh is gonna get
23:23
him. But The thing is like, I also
23:25
want to take advantage of him not having the name recognition,
23:27
right? So you wanna get him as late as
23:29
possible, but I don't wanna miss out on him either, so.
23:33
Murder Dylan Holloway. Holloway not even close to.
23:35
Me, you, we just did a mock where you took over door at
23:38
round 3. OK the mock we did, I had zero
23:41
the monkey that had 0 preparation I was meaning it.
23:43
I also took venture off with my last pic because.
23:45
It's my anniversary. You have to do it right.
23:50
I. Want to point out that the Blues
23:53
hired Montgomery as their head coach in November 2024, so that
23:59
means that he wasn't there at the beginning of the season.
24:04
This guy is just such an amazing coach and I think that there
24:08
he's gonna get the best out of his players so.
24:10
We talk about Montgomery is like the opposite of how we talk
24:12
about like Rod. Yeah, exactly.
24:14
Even though it's like, OK, John Cooper is probably the gold
24:17
standard for getting value out of your players for fantasy
24:20
purposes. This is Rod is like the Arthur
24:23
Smith to make an NFL reference. Sorry, Josh.
24:28
Like he's like you have an amazing player on that team, but
24:31
like the fantasy value is not to be found anywhere but Dylan
24:35
Holloway this year with all the prep like with an amazing coach
24:38
being like a centerpiece on this high scoring probably team.
24:42
I love it. I love.
24:43
It I want to. Play my team so bad.
24:45
Do you think the Holloway could get a point per game this year?
24:47
Yeah, easily. Easily.
24:49
Yeah, I'm so high on this guy. What's easier, Dylan Holloway to
24:52
get a point per game or to get 80 points per game?
24:59
I was like me a second. Kevin said it was really easy
25:04
for. Nice.
25:04
Yeah, I wasn't really so easy for that.
25:09
All right, all right. Now, but honestly, like I'd be
25:12
very surprised if he's like as under the radar as I feel like
25:16
he is. But if any of our listeners, if
25:18
any of our listeners there didn't know about him already,
25:23
I'm so high on this guy. This is the guy to take.
25:26
OK, wait, let me give you some, would you rathers then?
25:28
So Jasper, Brad or Dylan Holloway.
25:30
Holloway. That's that this is this is
25:33
round 4 value right now. Yes, for Brad is probably around
25:36
4:00 pick this year. Yeah.
25:38
I'm taking. Gallego, Brad, sorry.
25:40
I'm taking Holloway as well. Holloway over just for Brad.
25:42
OK, let me go up Jake. Gensel Holloway.
25:49
Dang. OK, weird.
25:51
OK, did you go first, Josh? I have thoughts.
25:55
OK, you guys are gonna kill me, but I'm going to Holloway.
25:57
Wow, John, are you gonna take him in round 3?
26:01
No, but round 4 I'm seriously considering.
26:05
It instinctively wait wait just one second here instinctively I
26:10
wanna say Gensel, but why do I really want Gensel so much over
26:15
brat and I easily said haul away over Brad so.
26:19
Confused you guys hate Brett even though he was amazing for
26:21
me last. Year I guess just Panarin light
26:24
for me aren't great. No, but I used the heparin
26:29
before he did like 100 and whatever points he did.
26:33
Yeah, I guess I'm gonna go with with Gensel there just because
26:36
it's shelter a bit better than brats.
26:38
Keep going. Let's see how far I'll go for
26:39
Dylan Holloway. OK, let's see Tage.
26:42
No, I'm going tage OK there. We go.
26:44
We found it pretty quick OK. That's a good bar.
26:47
Shall we move? Wait.
26:50
Would you say? Suzuki.
26:55
God had to kill me. Uncertain.
26:56
Face right now. You guys are gonna kill me, but
26:58
I'm going Holloway. Wow.
27:02
Wow, you did you. Did not put it this way that
27:06
time. Put it this way, yeah.
27:12
Yikes, Big Yikes. OK, well, I mean that that he's
27:17
he's up there. Kevin, wait, what sounds?
27:19
Like I'm gonna get him this year if I'm not.
27:21
Waiting. I'm Suzuki.
27:23
I'll take Suzuki as well. Why though?
27:26
I think you could. What does Suzuki have over
27:28
Holloway other than a few more points?
27:30
2. Shots.
27:30
I think it's gonna be more than a few more.
27:32
Points and like 90. Points I think always got better
27:35
shots and hits. I think Suzuki could get 90
27:38
points. I think Holloway probably ends
27:40
around 70 to 75. OK, but you're getting an extra
27:46
two hits out of Holloway and an extra like .5 shots out of
27:48
Holloway. 'S face off stuff.
27:51
OK, who cares about face offs? One of them was a centre and one
27:54
of them was the centre is gonna. Get.
27:56
I think the shots are pretty even.
27:59
I think, I think the shots are pretty even and I think the
28:01
power play for Montreal will be more.
28:04
If you guys wanna make our first gear, but I'll tell you that
28:06
Holloway is gonna shoot more than Suzuki this year.
28:08
I mean that's fine. I think they're pretty even.
28:10
Like last year the Holloway was up 2.3, this week was a 2.1 I
28:13
think I think. Yeah, but remember, Halloween
28:15
season stats are counting this start of the season.
28:17
Before and we also expect Suzuki to take a step up this year as
28:20
well, right? Yeah.
28:21
But honestly, in the shots department, I think he's gonna
28:23
be setting up a lot of Cofield, a lot of Lionel, a lot of
28:25
Demidov. Like I don't, I don't see him.
28:27
Let's make points about. No points I think Suzuki's gonna
28:31
get. More.
28:31
OK, well, how much, how much more do you think?
28:34
I would say Suzuki has 10 more points in the hallway minimum.
28:37
I could see 10 more points. Yeah, OK, I see.
28:40
I think, I think with that points difference, I'm
28:41
definitely taking Holloway Like only 10 points difference and
28:44
you're getting like literally 2 extra hits a game and then a few
28:48
more shots a game. I mean not a few more shots a
28:50
game, but like like .5 shots a game.
28:51
OK, 15 points. I don't know about that.
28:58
So that's the line. 15 points will make your bed.
29:00
First, get rid of the season. And I'm not involved.
29:06
Let me get back to you. Actually, no, no, you know.
29:08
You know right now. You know what?
29:10
What's the loss here? Worst case, I have to drink a
29:12
beer. Yeah, I'll take.
29:16
That, or if you're just don't even have to drink it.
29:20
Wow, you're gonna out him like this?
29:24
Quit. I will say if you wanna make
29:27
beer better with us this year, you, you really have to sell it
29:30
that you're gonna do it because me and Kevin are both honored
29:32
ours, but you did not so. Alright, I I'm so I promise.
29:36
OK, Kevin believes, Josh, that. Nick Suzuki scores 15 more
29:41
points than. You need over 15 more.
29:45
When is 14 1/2? Now, honestly.
29:48
Yeah, the light is 14 1/2 and we're moving on.
29:50
OK, fine. Right #5.
29:54
Alright #5 had his best season ever last season and he's always
29:59
been a bangers beast, but he turned into a bangers beast that
30:02
also has a points guy. Enough background will just say
30:04
it's Tom Wilson on the Washington Capitals last year
30:07
pointing points per game at 1.2 Pimms, 2.1 shots and 2.9 hits.
30:11
He's a monster. Just to put in perspective
30:13
though, how much better this season was versus any of his
30:17
previous seasons. Last season he got 65 points.
30:19
His next highest was 52. So I'm a believer in the
30:24
Washington regression, but but I do think that he's still gonna
30:28
be amazing. I have the exact opposite take.
30:33
I was gonna say might as well honestly talk about #4 at the
30:36
same time cuz their teammates. Alright, you guys wanna just
30:40
dive in and do it 2 at once, fine.
30:42
Alright, so #5 Tom Wilson #4 Alexander Ovechkin on the top
30:48
four power forwards for this year.
30:50
Josh, you put them pretty high for somebody that doesn't like
30:53
Washington this year. Look, you gotta show respect
30:55
where respect is due. You know, like, I don't like
30:58
Washington this year. I think they're gonna regress.
30:59
I think a lot of people are gonna be caught holding the bag
31:01
on Washington players who are great last year.
31:03
And I think we're going to take a step back this year.
31:05
But doesn't mean they're gonna take shoot down into the
31:08
basement. You know, like, I just think
31:09
they're gonna be slightly worse than last year.
31:11
Last year had a pretty crazy year so.
31:13
I think especially when we talk about regression for stats for
31:16
for players due to age or due to whatnot, it's usually points
31:19
related that the peripheral categories like Shaws, hits and
31:22
blocks tend to usually stay the same.
31:26
So, and that's why you want these bangers on your team,
31:29
right? The reason why they're so high
31:30
is because we know that they have a point ceiling attached to
31:32
them as well. And we know OV can go.
31:35
I mean, he kind of broke fantasy last year.
31:37
Like I feel like last year was the first year that his ADP
31:39
really took a step back and you got him at a bigger value than
31:42
we usually do. And then he was a top ten player
31:45
because he was chasing the Gretzky record and he was
31:48
scoring every game and they were giving him every empty net and
31:50
they were setting him up for success.
31:51
And JQ really reveled in that, the opportunity last year.
31:57
But I think this year, obviously it can't be what it was last
31:59
year. There's always a shot ceiling
32:03
diminished a little bit, like he was at 3.7 last year.
32:06
Can I see him average 33.2 this year?
32:11
Yeah, I mean 40 Let's. Not be less than 3.
32:13
Yeah. Which is still great. 1.7 hits
32:16
last year. He's not going to drop below
32:18
like 1.5, you know, like that's why I still put him here, you
32:20
know, even though I believe that like the points are gonna
32:22
regress, he's still a bingers beast.
32:24
The the the thing for me, though, is why I feel like I'm
32:29
not as out on Washington as you are, Josh, is mostly because I
32:33
think the power play can still click.
32:35
Like I feel like they have a lot of exciting pieces to keep the
32:37
power play afloat. Now that especially Chagrin took
32:40
that step up and John Carlson might not be the power
32:42
quarterback anymore. If that power play still stays
32:45
like, let's say, I don't know, top half of the league, I think
32:49
it can. It can stop the regression of
32:51
their points to a certain level and still make them like
32:53
obviously good fantasy players. I just think that all their
32:56
young guys and their old guys had their best seasons of their
33:00
career. And even if two or one or two of
33:05
them, you know, step back, that's gonna affect the rest of
33:07
the team. And I don't expect every player
33:09
on that team to keep hitting their personal records, so.
33:12
That's why I think I feel sick because last year these guys
33:14
were like top 20 players in Mangers leagues.
33:16
Like that's value right? Cause you're drafting them in.
33:19
Well, that's I'm saying you guys are still number four and five
33:23
on the list, right, and there's still like high up there, like I
33:25
still, you know, like I said, should respect where do these
33:27
guys are bangers beats. I would be super happy to have
33:29
either of them on my squad. The thing I'm worried about is
33:31
other people drafting them where the point stealing from last
33:35
year was when I would want to draft them maybe around later
33:38
than they end up getting drafted.
33:39
So where would you draft them? Ovi's going in in round three.
33:45
Round 3/4 is like the latest he's following.
33:48
Are you taking him there? You are you taking the other
33:50
guys? I'm taking the other guys, I
33:53
think. Round 3 right now if we look at
33:57
ADP, and this is not for like main bangers leagues, but around
34:00
3:00 you can get Phillip Forsberg.
34:03
Yeah, I would take Forsberg over OV.
34:04
OK. Would you take Gensel?
34:08
No, I think I would take over Ansel not it's not that I'm on
34:12
Washington believer. It's just that Gensel doesn't is
34:14
not one of these bangers guys you.
34:15
Know. Yeah, Boldy.
34:17
No. That's interesting.
34:19
I really, I'm really high on Boldy.
34:20
I like Minnesota, I think. I think.
34:22
Boston Globe for. Sure.
34:23
Why are you thinking OJK? I think Bobby gets more points
34:26
and the shots are comparable but Ovi gets the hits.
34:29
Yeah, and and the the goals specifically are harder to come
34:32
by and then the power play points I also think are going to
34:34
be good. Well, OK, so Tom Wilson I think
34:38
is going to regress negatively points wise.
34:41
I could change getting back into.
34:43
That he admits something against his magical Washington Capitals.
34:46
Yeah. But the reason I'm still higher
34:48
on them is because I think Ryan Leonard is going to be very
34:52
good. And I also think that Dubois and
34:57
is also was not a flash in the pan that he's actually a good
35:00
player. Their defence is solid.
35:03
As people ever put together 2 good seasons in a row.
35:06
It's a it's a good point. I haven't done the that that
35:10
analysis, but and I actually think Protis is quite good.
35:13
So what I'm kinda getting at here is that I think that at
35:17
some point there's a chance that Wilson doesn't stay on power
35:19
play 1. Nevertheless, he's still a
35:20
banger league stud. Everyone's happy with Wilson.
35:23
To have him money, especially if you really get Pimms as well.
35:26
Yeah, and like there's no way chicken stays right wing on the
35:29
1st power play. They ran double defence last
35:33
year. Honestly, it wasn't terrible.
35:34
No, I know. I just think that I mean produce
35:37
is not currently listed on one of their players and I.
35:39
Think it was 9 NHL seasons. He's only put together 2.
35:42
Like he's only had two good seasons in a row once.
35:46
One was that. It was 20/21/22 and then 2223,
35:51
both on Winnipeg. He had 60 points.
35:54
And he might do it again. Yeah, he's gonna do.
35:56
It the year I treated him away, you guys told me he was gonna
35:59
suck the whole year, so I traded him away and then he was a
36:01
beast. I can't believe.
36:04
Yeah, so, so I I think Josh, you're saying you're low on
36:07
Washington, remain decently high on Wilson.
36:09
I'm lower on Wilson's points. Still a stud for Bangor leagues,
36:13
but I think Washington's gonna. Would you rather have Tom Wilson
36:16
or Zach Hyman? Will Simon?
36:19
Wow, I split the difference. I can't believe you would,
36:23
actually. You know what I will say though,
36:24
with the Hymen, he did put up crazy hits in the playoffs.
36:27
Yeah, I haven't seen him do it in the regular season, which is
36:30
why I'm still on. I don't think he will feel like
36:32
playoff hockey is just different and they're not trying to get 10
36:35
hits a game in the regular season.
36:36
Yeah, that's true. Anyways, I'm still going to
36:38
Wilson. I'm surprised you go home.
36:39
And Jackie? Tom Wilson as well.
36:44
Tom Wilson or Timo Meyer Tom Wilson for.
36:46
Sure. Yeah, alright, let's go.
36:50
Number #3. Alright at #3 of the amazing
36:55
team Nashville Predators, we've got Philip Forsberg.
36:59
Last year he put up .93 points, 3.4 shots, 1.8 hits per game.
37:04
That's crazy for how bad a Nashville was.
37:08
About his start was. It was so bad, yeah, it was the
37:11
ultimate Bilo for about 3/4 of last season.
37:14
I've never felt closer to you than while I was a Forsberg
37:18
holder last year. I heard you every single day,
37:22
Josh was like day. Hours.
37:24
He's never gonna bounce back. Treat him to my team.
37:27
And I was close. You almost did.
37:28
I, I almost did it, it was, it was quite close, but I'm happy I
37:33
held even though I think Slough was coming my way in one of the
37:36
trades which would have, would have paid off.
37:39
You already started. Good for you, you know.
37:41
Mischievous look, Yeah, I. Think the biggest thing would
37:45
Forsberg is do you expect regression due to his age?
37:48
And also do you do you expect the points regression because
37:52
Nashville is just still a bad team because we saw last year,
37:54
last year. What was you know, on on the
37:56
season. It looks nice, right?
37:57
He's like all almost a point per game.
38:00
But during the season, it was like zero points for two weeks,
38:03
and then he had one week where he got like 6 points in two
38:06
games, you know? So it's very like highs and
38:08
lows, which is not necessarily great for your matchups.
38:11
I'm not worried about regression because the fact he was able to
38:13
do this on such a garbage team, even if they're the worst team
38:16
in the league again, he can do it again.
38:18
What worries me is what you just mentioned in the consistency.
38:20
So I think season wide he can do this again and it's going to be
38:23
great value overall. But the fact that he can go a
38:26
few months doing nothing and then he'll turn it into
38:28
OverDrive to even out that season average is very scary as
38:30
a as a season long holder. Yeah, I I think Nashville is
38:34
going to be a little bit less bad.
38:37
I know it's kind of. Hard to they can't get worse
38:39
than they were last year. I mean they technically can, but
38:41
like only three spots worse so. It was so, so abysmal.
38:47
And I don't look. He's only 31.
38:50
He's not that old. I don't think the age is
38:52
necessarily a problem. He's the centerpiece on that
38:54
team. This is the the quintessential
38:57
picking a good player on a bad team and that bad team, I don't
39:02
think we'll be as bad necessarily.
39:04
So I guess my one question like I love Forsberg and I would love
39:07
to have my team this year. Other than consistency, my one
39:10
other question with him is we all kind of think that Yoshi's
39:13
gonna take a step back this year, right?
39:14
With the injury into the age and all that.
39:16
How does that affect Forsberg? Cuz for his, you know, the past
39:19
bit when he's been a monster and fantasy he's always had Yoshi
39:22
there has his like. Power play as well.
39:25
Yeah, and that's like the next man down on their defence is,
39:28
you know, I don't even think they have an X man down.
39:30
He's gonna be the blinking step back.
39:32
Yeah, so, so that's a big question mark, right For Forrest
39:36
breaks the value. It is.
39:38
I think the power play success is kind of like what ends up
39:41
making either Forsberg or really good value in round three or
39:44
probably around 4 level player. But you you just know you're
39:48
getting high level shots and high level hits and that's so
39:50
hard to come by when they're this high.
39:52
Like he's gonna average almost two hits a game and he'll get
39:55
three to four shots a game, which is elite numbers.
39:58
And that's why he's so high on this bangers forwards list.
40:01
I think. My question Forsberg or Macklin
40:04
Celebri? That's a great one.
40:09
It's so rough. I'm going Forestburg still even
40:11
though I'm so high on Mac, but it's just the shots and hits, I
40:15
think. I think Maclin will get the
40:17
shots as well, and I think they'll be comparable for
40:19
points, but I don't think he's gonna hit like Forsberg does.
40:22
Celebrity because of the floor. Basically the same stuff, Josh.
40:25
Said OK, one more Forsberg or Panarin in a bangers league.
40:31
Forsberg. These guys are like, that's like
40:35
end of round two kind of pick. Yeah, Forsberg.
40:38
OK, Larry needs like 20 plus more points.
40:41
I have to give you guys one that you're gonna.
40:42
Take it even. Not for Forsberg, Reinhart.
40:45
Reinhardt. OK, there you go, this.
40:47
Is I actually, I dodged the Reinhart last year because I
40:50
thought what he did the year before was a flash in the pan,
40:52
but now that he's done it two years in a row, I'm like,
40:54
alright, this guy's just great. Yeah, Ryan Reinhart, Nielander.
40:58
Nylander. Yeah, Nylander.
41:00
OK, All right, let's move on to #2.
41:04
All right, at #2 he is a vengers darling, as we like to say.
41:09
He often goes in the first round.
41:11
This year he might drop to second round early, second
41:14
round, some like that. But he is no longer on
41:17
Vancouver, he is on New York. It is JT Miller.
41:20
Last year I had .97 points per game, 1.9 shots and 2.3 hits.
41:25
For any new listeners, JT stands for Jonathan Poneman.
41:28
Yes. You have to be there last.
41:31
Officially, yeah, I I think there's nothing but good things
41:36
to say about this guy. And the fact that he's still
41:39
like, the fact that he's going around 2 now is a huge surprise
41:42
because Kevin and I debated between Kucherov and JT Miller
41:47
last year. Yeah, but for the fans out there
41:51
listening, JT, we play in the face off league as well.
41:55
JT is centre right wing, so getting face off from a right
41:58
wing eligible is really valuable.
41:59
And there's not many guys that are a double, double and average
42:03
of point per game or higher. I think the question with JT is
42:07
can he hit over that point per game ceiling that he's hit in
42:10
the past? Because the one thing that makes
42:14
me really curious about his value this year and he's going
42:16
to be a second or third round player in most of your leagues.
42:21
In our league he probably is going to be like a late first
42:23
round pick. Guy is his shot volume.
42:28
His shot volume, we saw it decreased last year.
42:32
We've seen it be higher in the past.
42:33
I don't know which JT we get when it comes to that, but he's
42:36
going to be getting line 1 minutes, P1 minutes on this
42:40
Rangers team, the Rangers team looking for a bounce back.
42:43
We've seen how good he is. He's like very talismanic for
42:45
his team. Whatever team he's on, I feel
42:47
like he's the main guy. I I'm, I'm confident JT gets
42:51
over two shots a game this year. Yeah, I agree with you being
42:54
that being the big question, right?
42:56
Because we're talking these power forwards, what we're
42:58
looking at is really shots and hits in addition to the points.
43:01
And so if they're not, they're just hitting and pointing.
43:03
That's still great. But shots is a key 1.
43:05
And I think his numbers were brought down by the whole
43:07
Vancouver drama last year and we all think Rangers are bouncing
43:10
back. So it's gonna be a great year
43:11
for. Him.
43:12
Would you take him? Would you take him in the first
43:14
room? Yes, he did so well on the
43:16
Rangers too. Yeah, I like doing that switch.
43:19
Mid season is tough. Like it really very rarely
43:23
works, so I was very impressed by that.
43:28
I would take him late round one. For me, the only thing is that I
43:30
usually like to punt face off wins.
43:31
You guys know that, so I would have to.
43:34
Be still a point per game player.
43:35
I was gonna say I'd have to be comfortable that the rest of his
43:37
stats still make him around one player, but I think they do.
43:40
If you're in a league that doesn't have faceoff wins and
43:43
counts plus minus, I think JT usually falls like the third or
43:47
fourth round. I think that he's a value there,
43:50
but would you rather have like JT or Tage Thompson?
43:53
JT JT Yeah. OK, JT or Philip Forsberg.
43:57
J Yeah. OK, JT or Sam Reinhart, JT.
44:01
Yeah, still. OK, J or Mitch Marner.
44:05
JT. JT Rantanen.
44:08
J. OK, well, that's that's Randy's
44:12
gonna be a first round pick JT or Jack Eichel. 80.
44:17
Wow, I think I got equal. OK, JT Jacques.
44:22
JT, I rather like call. I rather I call over Hughes.
44:28
You have to keep going for Jake. You've already broke me off the
44:30
J2 train. Let's see how far you can go.
44:33
JT or Quinn Hughes? JT.
44:37
JT or basically Kirill, Capri, Zov.
44:41
Kaprizov. OK.
44:42
Yeah, OK. So.
44:44
Jake is taking him at pick 9 in fantasy this year.
44:48
Wait, why? Why was Barkov not mentioned in
44:51
that whole thing? I was.
44:52
Expecting I'd rather have Eichel than Barkov, I'd rather have
44:55
than Barkov. I feel OK so but.
44:58
Going through tears. Like.
45:02
Like ADP, Barkov usually goes in fourth round ish.
45:07
Wow, what a steel. Yeah, that's crazy.
45:10
Yeah, that's absurd. Face off in faceoff leaks.
45:14
He's gonna be going higher, obviously.
45:15
Yeah. But Barkov, he does what JT
45:18
does, he just doesn't get the hits.
45:19
So do any difference is pretty significant.
45:22
Between 9:00 and 12:00 overall in a bangers league.
45:26
I think in a points league mid rounds.
45:28
So you're taking him right before this next guy because #1
45:31
is the best banger in all of fantasy forever.
45:35
It is Brady Kuchuk. If you're surprised, you
45:39
probably haven't been playing fantasy, but.
45:41
I'm gonna say, if you're surprised, you haven't been in a
45:43
Bangers league for very long. This guy just breaks fantasy
45:46
when it comes to bangers. He will always be the best guy.
45:48
Like there's nobody that shoots and hits at his level.
45:51
And Pimms. And Pimms, it's just a
45:53
combination. Isn't us.
45:54
The only thing that they have to serve him is he couldn't be
45:56
perfect. He doesn't get a lot of points.
45:58
But I think this year, Ottawa, we saw last year it took a jump.
46:01
I think this year they can take an even bigger.
46:03
Does that mean even more positive regression for his
46:05
points? Probably.
46:07
But The thing is just he's such a Unicorn.
46:09
What what he does for for shots and hits.
46:11
He gets the amount of shots and hits for two bangers guys in one
46:15
slot. It's nuts.
46:16
I think if you're looking at round one picks and bangers
46:19
leagues, he's probably pick number 67.
46:23
Like that's probably where he goes.
46:25
Yeah. And he had a bad point here last
46:27
year. So I expect that to positively
46:29
regress a lot. And the team is improving also
46:31
around him. So I think, yeah, that's his one
46:34
kind of quote UN quote downside. But it should be a step up this
46:37
year, which is makes him even more scary.
46:39
Yeah, Kevin, if you do the, would you rather start from the
46:42
top? For me it's obviously McKinnon,
46:45
McDavid dry side stapled top four in a bangers league.
46:49
After that it's probably Matthews Pasta Kaprizov in one
46:53
tier. I would take to chalk over
46:55
capris. OK, fair.
46:58
So but you take Matthews and passed over to Chuck.
47:00
Yeah, yeah. So that means he's 7 on your
47:02
list unless you're taking my car.
47:03
That I had on my list I had to match.
47:05
Seven scary times to be near each.
47:08
Other Josh, I think if you're if you're in a bangers league and
47:11
you get pick 7 or pick 8 and you're able to get Brady as your
47:14
first round pick and then you know you're as close to turn as
47:18
possible while you can still get Brady, I think that's just a
47:20
steal and value. Like you could end up getting
47:22
Brady and, and you're in a 12 team lead.
47:24
You can get Brady and Nielander, you could get Brady and Jack
47:27
Hughes and you you get the guy with the points upside as well
47:31
as, you know, the guy that's gonna break the league and shots
47:34
and hits. And it's just.
47:35
Crazy problems Trocheck, but I hate playing against Brady.
47:38
Chuck to Chuck the most not. You see, if you're playing
47:41
against Brady and it's a four-game week for Ottawa, you
47:44
could just kiss like him. Shots and hits.
47:46
Goodbye. Unless you have Will Cooley on
47:50
your team. Yeah, good point.
47:52
But you know what it is about to talk like.
47:54
The truth is that if you end up having him, I would even maybe
47:58
even reach tip for him at six. I think of one pick ahead of.
48:02
You I mean it is a reach. It is.
48:06
Like 120 points, Like it's a big deal for someone who could get
48:09
50 less points. The thing with Brady to Chuck is
48:12
that it completely changes your opponent strategy on the week.
48:15
Like you just you just literally punt the categories.
48:18
Also just talking. About yeah, but The thing is
48:19
also like, you can't just like decide to punt the category at
48:22
like week 10 in the fantasy season, right?
48:24
Like your team is already built in a certain way.
48:26
So you don't just like, I'm gonna get rid of all my hits
48:28
guys for this week. Like you can't just stuck,
48:30
right? Just make those guys even less
48:32
valuable because your opponent has Brady, which is why he's so
48:35
valuable that it just kind of like neutralizes half the
48:39
players on your opponents team because what they're doing is
48:41
irrelevant to the fantasy. Metro yeah, your opponent has
48:43
guys like Trouba and Gudis or whatever, and you're like, cool,
48:46
thanks for those empty roster spots because my brain is just
48:48
gonna outdo all of them. Combined, you can drop those
48:51
guys because they're valuable to have to round out your team in a
48:53
bangers league, but you know that this week they're just
48:55
zeros on your roster pretty much.
48:57
Yeah, it's like he's the bangers goat.
48:59
That's the bankers gold. I've never had Brady on one of
49:02
my teams, but I feel like this is.
49:03
I hope I get a pick in our league where I can draft them.
49:08
Only six. I was gonna say the only pick
49:10
you can get him at probably is like 6 or 7, right?
49:13
Because if you get an. Earlier, if you're lucky, you
49:14
get 9. I could see people taking about
49:18
5 over Matthews. I wouldn't, but it's.
49:20
I think it just depends who's who's in your league and where
49:23
they like him. But yeah, that's the top 10.
49:26
Can we just draft now? So we got a month until our.
49:29
Draft. Oh my God.
49:30
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49:33
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