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Catherine Bell on Resilience and Empowering Communities · Go Big with Gib Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Go Big with Gibb podcast, where we talk to professionals, business owners and entrepreneurs about their big wins.
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: What's up, guys?
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  Speaker 1: Today I've got a very special guest here with me, katherine Bell.
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  Speaker 1: Katherine, how are you today?
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  Speaker 2: I am amazing and super happy to be here with you.
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  Speaker 1: Katherine, we're so happy to have you.
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  Speaker 1: I always love your energy.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about you, who you are, where you're from, and give us a little background.
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  Speaker 2: So who I am?
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  Speaker 2: Catherine Bell.
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  Speaker 2: Originally.
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  Speaker 2: I'm from Canada.
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  Speaker 2: I have dual citizenship, so I'm American now.
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  Speaker 2: I always like to share my story because I want people to understand that, no matter what their background is, there really is no excuse to create an extraordinary life, and it all ties in at the end.
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  Speaker 2: So I was actually born to a teenage mother in Northern Canada and I was in and out of more homes than you can possibly count, Went to 13 different schools but didn't learn to read till I was in the eighth grade.
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  Speaker 2: But I did get straight A's because I learned very quickly In school.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't want you you to think, they just want you to get the right answer.
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  Speaker 2: And I knew how to do that.
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  Speaker 2: And I raised my younger brothers and then I got them adopted by their fathers and then I was headed down a pretty horrible path and when I was 16, I got myself adopted and it literally saved my life.
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  Speaker 2: Deeply, deeply love my family that adopted me and so fast forward later on in life, I meet my husband.
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  Speaker 2: We ended up getting married in 2001.
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  Speaker 2: He was American, which is how I'm here, and we ended up moving to the United States because he had a dream.
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  Speaker 2: We took his dream and we turned it into a multi-million dollar company During that time, discovered we couldn't have kids, so we ended up finding out about what something's called foster adopt and it's you can adopt children out of the foster care system.
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  Speaker 2: And so we adopted our twins out of the foster care system.
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  Speaker 2: Fast forward.
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  Speaker 2: We sold our company in 2008,.
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  Speaker 2: Economy crashed, my husband got sick, like it was all this domino effect that happened, and we ended up losing everything in 2009.
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  Speaker 2: It was at that time that, you know, we were living the American dream, living an extraordinary life to literally pretty much being homeless, and so I had to go back to work to provide for our family because my husband was so sick, so I was working 80 hours a week and then I'd come home, take care of my sick husband, take care of my twins.
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  Speaker 2: I was burning the candle at both ends and I was like this isn't it, this is not it.
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  Speaker 2: And so I learned that the average millionaire has seven streams of passive income, and that was a big thing, because we had gone from one very healthy stream literally to nothing, but we didn't have seven, and passive that was the other piece.
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  Speaker 2: I was like I got to figure this out Fast forward.
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  Speaker 2: I started investing, so I started out doing buy and hold.
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  Speaker 2: Turns out that I don't like tenants and toilets.
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  Speaker 2: And then I did wholesaling.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't it wasn't enough cashflow.
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  Speaker 2: And then I started running a program here in Arizona called the flipping females.
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  Speaker 2: I partnered with women, teaching them how to fix and flip and invest in properties, and so we flipped about 500 properties here in Arizona.
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  Speaker 2: And then I learned about you know, the most secure position to be in any transaction really is being the bank.
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  Speaker 2: It was like how do you be the bank?
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  Speaker 2: So I started hedge funds how do you be the bank?
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  Speaker 2: Then we went on.
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  Speaker 2: We were doing vacation rentals in there.
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  Speaker 2: Turns out I don't like guests and toilets either, but I tried all the things and I want people to get that.
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  Speaker 2: Try all the things like don't pigeonhole yourself.
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  Speaker 2: So in 2018, my husband died very tragically and unexpectedly, leaving me a widow and a single mom overnight, so with 14 year old twins.
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  Speaker 2: But at that point, I created 13 streams of passive income for my family and it was because of that that allowed me to take a year off and to grieve with my twins and do all the therapy and figure out what we were going to do next, and it was during that time that I really got clear on a couple of things Chasing money isn't it Moving forward?
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  Speaker 2: No matter what I did, I got really clear on my why is that?
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  Speaker 2: I needed to leave every person, property and community better than I found them, and that's how my company was born, titan Impact Group, and that's what we do.
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  Speaker 2: So in Titan Impact Group, I focus on two things, because I tried all the different things right, but at the end of the day, I landed on two things I like to be the bank and I like to rent dirt.
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  Speaker 2: Those are my things, all of my investments.
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  Speaker 2: I do that and we currently have a portfolio.
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  Speaker 2: And the biggest thing I want people to understand, it's like you need to make sure that you diversify your portfolio into different asset classes, right, because if and that was a big thing when people are all in one asset class, not asset class tanks, you're in trouble.
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  Speaker 2: You may have multiple streams of income in that asset class, but if that, I mean, that's a problem.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like we have a.
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  Speaker 2: We have a debt validation fund and that specifically helps first responders and their families get out of debt, stay out of debt, financial literacy, all that and pays out our investors very, very well with that, and so that's a way to be the bank.
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  Speaker 2: Then we have mobile home parks and that's affordable housing, which again I love that because whether we're in an up economy or down economy, we're always gonna need affordable housing.
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  Speaker 2: Again, paying our investors out about that and people you know, those have got, I don't know, some weird stigma.
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  Speaker 2: But when you understand, like when I understood, okay, wait, I could own 100% of one door or I could own 1% of hundreds of doors.
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  Speaker 2: Like if that one door, that person, moves out, I feel 100% of that pain, but if I'm 1% owner in hundreds, a couple of people, I don't even feel the pain.
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  Speaker 2: So it's starting to understand and think about that and the scalability of it.
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  Speaker 2: So, as a mom and a woman, like it was bringing stability to my cashflow and you know what I was doing.
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  Speaker 2: I needed that for me and my kids.
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  Speaker 2: And then, of course, we do triple net lease commercial medical office space and then for tax mitigation, the whole gas and oil.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like creating all of this together.
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  Speaker 2: And, to be clear, inside of this, it's like how people keep asking how I did this.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, you need to understand I didn't start 13 different companies and even now I don't have yes, I have multiple companies.
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  Speaker 2: However, the way it's structured is that I create extraordinary partnerships with people who are really good at new, who know how to do the thing, and I talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: Give I'm sure you've talked about it, like this book who, not how, especially for women, like we've already mastered.
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  Speaker 2: Think about it.
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  Speaker 2: When our kids need to be educated, we go find who already knows how to educate them.
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  Speaker 2: If our kids are sick, we go find who already knows how to get them better.
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  Speaker 2: Same, educate them.
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  Speaker 2: If our kids are sick, we go find who already knows how to get them better.
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  Speaker 2: Same with investing, go find who already knows how to do the thing, plug into it and get the benefits of it.
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  Speaker 2: That's how you grow exponentially your portfolio and your passive streams of income.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I've done.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm the who for people who want passive streams of income by renting dirt or being a bag.
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  Speaker 2: You're the who for people who want to create passive streams of income through all the different investments that you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: So when people start to think better, when you ask better questions and the question is, who do I know that already knows how to do that.
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  Speaker 2: We ask better questions.
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  Speaker 2: We get better answers.
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  Speaker 2: So what that all leads into is that I'm really clear.
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  Speaker 2: You know, money is like oxygen the more we have, the easier it is to breathe.
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  Speaker 2: And the more we have, the easier we can breathe, the bigger the difference in the world we can make.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel very this is a like, I feel very strongly about this that if you can add commas to your bank account, you must, because there's going to come a time where you're called to make an impact.
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  Speaker 2: So what I'm here for.
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  Speaker 2: I created two nonprofits, so I've got one nonprofit that focuses on.
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  Speaker 2: It's called WealthWise Women and we teach women how to lean in, engage and really start creating passive streams of income for their families and women statistically actually make better investors than men.
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  Speaker 2: Like I always say that men are like waffles and women are like spaghetti.
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  Speaker 2: All the things touch all the things and when women get like SRA, same rules apply, right, all the skills that it takes for women to be really great moms and wives.
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  Speaker 2: It's the exact same skill set to be a great investor, because we think about all the things.
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  Speaker 2: So when you get that, you're like, oh my gosh, like you can translate all those skill sets over.
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  Speaker 2: So that's WealthWise Women.
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  Speaker 2: And then the other one, that this is the bigger one for me.
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  Speaker 2: It's called Bell Community Empowerment Foundation, and here's what it is, gib.
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  Speaker 2: There's over 500,000 children in the US foster care system right now.
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  Speaker 2: Over 350,000 are available for adoption today, and it costs anywhere from 1,000 to $2,500 to adopt a child, depending on what state you're in.
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  Speaker 2: Now, people don't know this, and so this is what my nonprofit is out to like really educate people on Is that right now, it's costing taxpayers billions of dollars to keep these kids in foster care, and if they haven't been adopted by their 18th birthday, they experience black trash bag day.
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  Speaker 2: That means, on their 18th birthday, they're handed a black trash bag, they're told to put all their belongings in it and then they're out and they're homeless.
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  Speaker 2: 70% of the people who are homeless came out of foster care, homeless, drugs, prostitution, being trafficked which is another epidemic and now being incarcerated, costing taxpayers billions more on the back end.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the solution.
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  Speaker 2: There is a solution Right now.
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  Speaker 2: There's 2.1 million families looking to adopt, but they don't know about this type of adoption, and there's more than 350,000 congregations in this country who are all called to take care of widows and orphans.
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  Speaker 2: So what if each church found one family to adopt one child?
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  Speaker 2: We could get this done in our lifetime.
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  Speaker 2: But bigger than that, what if 1% of those 350,000 children that'd be 3,500 kids that grow up to be 3,500 adults just because they were loved, they decide I'm gonna go make a difference in the world, just like I did, from being loved and adopted, like that's what I'm called for and you never know when you're going to be called.
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  Speaker 2: This is the power of why we need to add as many comments to our bank accounts so we can make that impact, because we never know when we're going to be called for that.
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: So what happened was one of my partners lives in Nashville.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: I live in Arizona Like I'm over in the desert and North Carolina.
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: It's highly unusual for them to actually be hit by a hurricane, but you guys were, you know, just a couple weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the western part of the state very rarely would get hit by a hurricane.
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  Speaker 1: The eastern part of the state we get hit by hurricanes more frequently, right being on the water, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, what happened with Helene in Asheville was really unprecedented.
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  Speaker 2: So our friend, yours, my mutual friend, bryce, and Zach, and all them, they all live in Asheville and so I was like, oh my gosh, like how are they?
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: Are they okay?
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  Speaker 2: So I'm texting you know like calling, not getting answers so finally a message comes through.
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  Speaker 2: You know that he's okay.
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  Speaker 2: My next question was how can I help, like seriously, like you know, a woman in Arizona?
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: My next question was how can I help, like seriously, like you know, a woman in Arizona, like, really, what can she do?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like I don't know, but I'm still going to ask and his messages were intermittent, getting back in that back and forth, so I hadn't heard from him for quite a while.
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  Speaker 2: It's Thursday morning, it hits Saturday, it's Thursday morning on with wealth, wise women, we're going through doing all the nonprofit stuff, figuring out how we're going to continue to serve this community, doing all this, and all of a sudden a message comes in from Bryce, a text message gets through and he says that he's okay, but what they need is they need food, water, fuel and body bags.
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  Speaker 2: Out of all the things to say you need, I'm like my heart.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like ladies, stop.
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  Speaker 2: I just stopped the whole call.
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  Speaker 2: I said stop what you're doing right now.
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  Speaker 2: And I read the message and one of his friends, chris Larson, created a GoFundMe and I know Chris, so I knew all the money was absolutely going to go to those families in that community.
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  Speaker 2: And they're like, please, we need help.
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  Speaker 2: So I said to the ladies, I said, listen, we need to send this message out to anybody we can.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know who knows who, but let's do this and let's see what we can make happen.
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  Speaker 2: The women sent it out all through all their social media, their newsletters, texts, everything.
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  Speaker 2: We just sent all these messages out.
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  Speaker 2: Within 24 hours, over $40,000 had been funded.
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  Speaker 2: Within 48, $100,000 had been funded.
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  Speaker 2: And in same period of time, somebody reached out to somebody and he was friends with her best friends, with the I think it's the president of I want to say it's the Cajun, the Cajun Navy helicopter.
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: Anyway, extraordinary, they were a big, big part of Katrina and helping all of that.
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  Speaker 2: Anyways, next thing, we know all these communications are happening and it wasn't the government.
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  Speaker 2: The government still hadn't stepped in and helped this community.
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  Speaker 2: It was private citizens that all brought the money, brought the food, the water, the fuel, the helicopters and literally within 96 hours, over 200 families have been saved.
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: If you think about that, that's about a thousand people, and all because of community and all because everybody had done the right thing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, living the American dream, doing their thing, adding commas to their bank account, but all of a sudden, now, now is the time, because they had those commas, they had the freedom and the ability to lean in and to help people that we will never know, that will never know us, and that's not why we did it.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: We did it because it was the right thing to do and we were able to do it timely.
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  Speaker 2: There was no red tape, there was no asking permission, like we just did it, and sometimes that needs to happen, right.
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  Speaker 2: So, anyway, I'm just extremely grateful for our community and all the relationships and connections we have.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: I mean being able to be there for somebody that's you know, I don't know 2,000, 3,000 miles from you.
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  Speaker 1: That really just speaks, you know, to the power of the community and, honestly, to your character in actually helping him.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people say, when something bad happens, how can I help?
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  Speaker 1: But they're hoping and expecting the answer to be, well, there's nothing you can do.
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  Speaker 1: You know, but you were coming to him with like a pure heart saying, hey, what can I do to help?
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  Speaker 1: And then you actually took action and I think you're.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you talked about how, when we accumulate wealth and put another zero on our bank account or add another decimal, we now have the ability to help more people.
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  Speaker 1: And I think so many people might look at us from the outside, looking in, like, oh my goodness, these folks are all focused on investing and finances and they just want to become rich, right, and they just want to flaunt their money and have you know all these luxuries.
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  Speaker 2: We do want to become rich, but not to flaunt.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, it's a different mindset and it's one of coming from a place of trying to help others, and that is a totally different thing than hey, gibb just wants to have, you know, a Gulf Stream and I mean I don't think there's anything wrong with having that kind of stuff, but that's not the primary motivation behind what we're doing, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So, catherine, let's go back a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question about your story, because I've heard you speak from stage numerous times.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how long have you been doing public speaking like that?
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: I would assume you've done it for a very long time.
• 14:48
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• 14:52
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  Speaker 1: Gibb Irons Again, that's investwithgibbcom to schedule a 30-minute introductory meeting with me.
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  Speaker 2: Gibb Irons.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Again, that's investwithgibbcom.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Gibb, get this, get this.
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  Speaker 2: It literally was two years ago to this weekend that Hunter and I first met and had our interaction, and what happened was it was in Miami, and so it was the second day of his race fest and he retreat right.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: The race master retreat in Miami.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so he kept saying like that your story matters and you need to share your story.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I disagree.
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  Speaker 2: So it was the second day and he's he asked the question who in here disagrees with what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: That your story matters?
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  Speaker 2: And I raised my hand and that's when he gave me the mic and he's like, why do you disagree?
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  Speaker 2: And I had this whole conversation, it's his conference, but I'm disagreeing with him.
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  Speaker 2: And I just shared, like I disagree, I've raised over $20 million.
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  Speaker 2: I did the flipping females.
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  Speaker 2: I did all that without my story.
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  Speaker 2: Like I didn't, nobody needs.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Like I didn't, nobody needs, I don't want to have anybody having a pity party over anything that's happened, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like I don't, I don't want to talk about that, right, let's talk about something that's happy.
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  Speaker 2: And so him and I had this whole car interaction and he ended up asking questions and literally in that interaction, what happened literally changed my life forever and he had me share a tiny piece of my story and I literally got a standing ovation at that in Miami and I was like what just happened?
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  Speaker 2: Like it rocked me to the core.
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  Speaker 2: So I go home and then he reaches out and asks me if I would come and speak in January in Louisville, kentucky.
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  Speaker 2: It was the very first time, january 2023, that I ever shared my story publicly.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, cause I was there for that.
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  Speaker 1: That was when.
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  Speaker 2: That was my very first time.
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  Speaker 1: I was sitting on the front row and I stepped out real quick and came back and everybody was crying because you had made such a powerful impact.
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  Speaker 1: What would you say to the person that you know is struggling with?
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  Speaker 1: They didn't have all the advantages growing up.
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  Speaker 1: They had a tough time, you know, and they're feeling like, you know, I can't accomplish anything because my life you know, the beginning of my life was so difficult.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I totally can tell you.
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  Speaker 2: So here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: I got clear like we can't control what happens to us, but we have 100% control of what we choose to do with it.
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  Speaker 2: So, and I always think like, okay, this situation, am I going to have this situation, use me, meaning I become victim to it, or am I going to take this situation and am I going to use it?
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  Speaker 2: What does that take?
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  Speaker 2: It takes a whole lot of like dealing with what's going on in between our ears.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on in between our ears is the number one thing that'll make us or break us.
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  Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with what's out here, and so doing that work is a critical piece to everything that I do, and everybody knows anybody who's spent any time with me.
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  Speaker 2: I'll do two things, gib, and you've already said it I'll make you cry and I'll give you homework.
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  Speaker 2: So here's one thing, this exercise.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: So, as a kid, here's the, here's the thing.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: When you, when you, when you go in and out of more homes than you can possibly count, part of the gift is you actually get to see not all families live the same.
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  Speaker 2: They all have a different rhythm, they all have different beliefs, they all have different values.
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  Speaker 2: So I got to see all of this and I was really fascinated.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: And I was fascinated.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Like you know, success leaves clues and I always look for patterns, right, and so when you see those patterns, you can go wait a sec.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: If they're doing this, this and this and having this outcome, if I do this, this and this, I should have a similar outcome, right.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: And so one of the things I have a lot of friends who are multimillionaires, a couple of friends who are billionaires, and I've asked them all this question what is it that you do that has you be successful?
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  Speaker 2: This right here that I'm about to share with you, is the one thing they've all done consistently and still do so.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I should do that.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Awesome, yeah, and here's the homework everyone.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hear it.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: It's a little, teeny tiny book that was wrote back in the early 1900s, and then we'll talk about the Constitution, because it's all a part of this.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: So this little, teeny tiny book.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the homework of the book and I'll tell you the homework and then I'll tell you the book.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: So the homework is to read the book once all the way through, and it takes about two hours.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: It's so teeny tiny.
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  Speaker 2: Then, for the next 90 days, you read chapters 4, 7, 11, and 14 every day for 90 days.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: If you miss a day, you have to start all over again.
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  Speaker 2: So this is powerful.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: When you do this.
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  Speaker 2: I promise you, at the end of that 90 days, what's going on in between your ears will never be the same again.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: So here's the book.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Are you ready?
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: We're ready.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: The Science of Getting Rich.
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  Speaker 2: The Science of Getting Rich by Wallace D Waddles.
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  Speaker 2: So again, if success leaves clues, like if you're seriously interested in making a difference, and like, again, the more commas you have, the bigger the impact you can make.
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  Speaker 2: This is a book.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I also have another book on my website but again, success leaves clues, right, so do it.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: And if it doesn't make a difference, great, call me and tell me I'm a liar.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I'd be interested in hearing that conversation.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's something that we all need to go check out, definitely.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: So you read the book once.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: You said it's a relatively short read.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I'm a slow reader, so if it took you two hours, it'd probably take me four.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, Hold on, hold on.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I'm a super slow reader, you have to remember.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I didn't learn to read until I was in the eighth grade, so I'm also an auditory learner, so I learn very quickly.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I listen to this on Audible.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I listen to it while I'm getting ready in the morning through four chapters.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: So that's one thing.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: The other thing it's called Paraliminals.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: It's a form of meditation and there's an app and anyway, basically what it is, you put headphones in and one side is saying one thing and one side is saying another and it literally one side is distracting your conscious mind while the other side programs your unconscious mind, because it's our unconscious mind that actually is running us.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: And so I literally there's a paraliminal called talking to win, and that's what literally had me crush it during that speech, because I was one of those people that I would rather die than go in public, speak and give you know what happened, like I was literally on the same stage as Jesse Itzler, neil Bawa, like big, big, big names.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I was the only one that got a standing ovation.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're right, yeah, I mean, yeah, we had Jesse Itzler on the same stage and you had the audience like mesmerized.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I mean they were really genuinely absorbing the emotions of your story and going through you know, they were living through those events with you and I mean all of those folks were fantastic speakers.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: But, yes, you did such an amazing job.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: So this exercise, you said it's Paraliminals.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: It's called Paraliminals by Paul Sheely.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Paul Sheely, you can buy the CDs or there's an app that you can get.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I have the app on my phone, so I have it with me all the time and there's like dozens and dozens and dozens, and when you go, it's all about health, well-being, wealth, like all of the things.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: And again, when we can program our unconscious mind, that's again.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: That's the power, like what's going on here is going to make us or break us.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: So it is our responsibility to deal with what's going on here, right, it's not our parents, it's not societies, it's not teachers, it's not the government.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: It is our responsibility to manage that and to do everything we can to deal with that.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, we all know, we've all heard of the Napoleon Hill think and grow rich, right, not wish, not manifest, not meditate.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Think and grow rich.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: But if you don't have accurate thinking, you're never going to get there right.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: So you got't have accurate thinking, you're never going to get there right.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: So you got to have accurate thinking.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: And, gib, here's the thing, like when you were like I just you're an attorney and inside of that, what did it take for you to be an attorney?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: It took for you to go to school and learn it and become a brilliant attorney.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: It's the same thing with doing all the everything that we're doing, with investing.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: It literally is you can learn this.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: It's not like you and I popped into the world with all this magical knowledge.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: You and I went and learned, so anybody can go and learn.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: So, speaking of learning, you and I were in New York a couple of weeks ago and it was really cool at One World Trade Center Like holy Moses, that was amazing and we were at an an event, but at the same time, what had happened was uh, we, we have a private museum here in our home which we have people which, by the way, you inspired me.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I did my very first investor dinner giving a tour of our museum, and so one of my kpis give is how many times they said wow we blew their minds it was so awesome.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: So we have an original Declaration of Independence.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: We have Martin Luther King's I have a Dream speech.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: We have General Orders no 9, which is the letter that Robert E Lee wrote that ended the Civil War.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: We have so many, it takes about 12 hours to tour.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: But here's what's cool Our document dealer, who's a good friend of ours it was a couple months ago, oldest constitution and it was actually in north carolina, which is really fascinating.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: It was in a home that, uh, was originally owned by a governor back in the 1800s and from that which was really interesting was the home had been passed down by seven generations and eventually the home was donated to the state as a historical property.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Well, the the family had to go through all the stuff, because when you have, it's been in the same family for 1800s.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff in that home.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: They end up opening up a file cabinet and they open up there is an original constitution, a ratified signature constitution.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: So it was cool, was my friend Seth and Steve ended up coming and bringing it for all of us to see and experience and we all got pictures with it and all of that.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: So what ended up happening after that?
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: That was that day.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: The very next day it was constitution day, so we took it to the federal courthouse in New York for all the federal judges to see.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: So just being there with all those judges, it was amazing.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: So then we were there for like pretty much from like really early in the morning till really late at night.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I end up having like their secret service.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: There's US Marshals, like everybody's there protecting that, protecting us.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: It was a whole.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: It was a very bizarre experience.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I end up becoming like friends with the head US Marshall and him and I are talking because we're there for literally all day and all night, you know, just talking about all the things.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: And it turns out Ruth Bader Ginsburg had an office there and so him and I are talking and it turns out him and her became really, really good friends and they would play chess all the time and he's this giant black man who's amazing and she's this little white woman like four foot nothing, and she would kick his butt and laugh at him all the time.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: She never let him win, but because they became such good friends, he would carry a spare pair of glasses with him all the time for her, because she'd forget them everywhere anyway.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: So we're talking about this and I'm just talking about how much I deeply admire and respect her and everything.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: He disappears and he comes back and he says I have something to show you.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: And so then it was insane Pulls out of his pocket her glasses and he lets me see them and hold them and then try them on.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Turns out that they're my same prescription, anyway.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: So then he's like, because you love her so much, he gave me her glasses.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, who does?
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: that.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: How cool is that.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Ruth Bader Ginsburg's glasses Like how crazy right.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, they look good on you too.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: So then Steve goes back a week later or whatever.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Anyways, he sends home with me.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: A couple months prior to that, we had actually acquired her entire personal library, but there were a couple things we didn't get, so he gave this to me.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: This is her favorite book.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Anytime anybody would come to New York, she'd open this up and she'd literally walk through all the different architectural buildings and stuff they need to go see in New York and all the history behind it.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: So I literally feel like I get to see New York through Ruth Bader Ginsburg's lenses.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable what is that Right.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: What an awesome experience, and I mean-.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: So it gets better, it gets better, it gets better.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: So, because the Constitution was literally supposed to be auctioned off the Saturday that the hurricane hit in North Carolina, in Asheville, clearly that didn't happen, it got postponed.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: But now I'm flying on Wednesday because I get to be there.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: It's going to be auctioned off on Thursday and I get to be a part of that whole experience of the Constitution.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: We were there for Sotheby's a couple of years ago when the second oldest one got sold and that was sold to Ken Griffin of Citadel Group and he bought it for $43.2 million.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: So they're estimating this one's about $50 million.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: So I get to go be a part of all of history.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, how cool is that?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: That is phenomenal, I mean, and it's super cool to me too that the document was intended for North Carolina and was found here.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: You know, with me being a North Carolinian and loving history like I do, I just found that to be so fascinating and I get confused about how many original constitutions there were, you know, and each state got a cop or got one original right.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: No, they got two that were actually signed.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Two signed originals for each state.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, and so this is one of those copies for North Carolina, the oldest one we found.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: How many states were there at the time?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Was there 13 states?
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when it was sent out.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what an amazing piece of history.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I did get the opportunity to hold it and I got my picture taken with Seth and the Constitution, and what a fun experience and what a cool thing to bring with you.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, who knows what it'll sell for too?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: So will the sale occur in Asheville, even despite everything that they've been through there.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Well, it's an online auction.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: So, everybody can go check it out.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: It's Brunk Auction House.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: It's going to happen at 6 pm on Thursday, so just Google it, look up Brunk Auction House, 6 pm Thursday.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: We can all watch it happening online and see what it goes for.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: So where did your love for history come into play?
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: You talked to me about how there's a lot of really important historical documents and artifacts that have been passed down from generation to generation, normally in wealthy families.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Typically they're privately owned documents.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: They're not all in museums.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Even the ones that are in museums are from wealthy families.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Right, they were donated.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Museums do not own them.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: They're usually on loan.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Because museums are nonprofit, they don't have the funding to go buy these really expensive documents.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: It's up to the wealthy to preserve history.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: If you go, you'll see.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: It'll see donated by or on loan by you know whatever family that's who owns it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: And how did you get into that?
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: So I love the psychology of like how do people function?
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Like how do they make their decisions?
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: What things had to occur to lead to this actually happening?
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Like I love again, I look for patterns.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I love all of that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: So that's the piece of history.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: But my fiance, steve he's always wanted to be a history teacher or a constitutional attorney.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: When he discovered what both of them are, he's not interested.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: So it was through.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: When him and I actually started dating, you know he just had this love.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I was like and he's a brilliant storyteller.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: So I was like people have got to see this and got to experience this.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: That's how we ultimately ended up creating our literally wow factor museum.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Like it blows people's mind.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: People who love history are like, love it even more after and people who don't even care about history love history after because of the stories.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: And we tell the stories that aren't being told in the textbooks, all the stories.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Like we did a tour.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Literally it was for a group of women who are all investors and it was all about the women in history who made an impact on this country and there's a lot.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: And so we we customize, we customize and create tours but tell all the amazing fun stories that just never get taught, and so that's just been a fun thing that we do.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: And then, when you shared about doing the dinners, I was like so you inspired us to go and give these amazing tours and dinners and it's a whole amazing experience.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I don't want to give it away, but it's pretty cool for you know, when we have those and have people over for those.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going to have to come.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Well, I would love to, I would love to, I would absolutely love to.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: So, catherine, for people that have listened to the show today and want to reach out to you, what's the best way for them to get in touch with you?
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: So you can go to LinkedIn or my website, TitanImpactGroupcom.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Those are probably the easiest ways to get ahold of me.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Awesome.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Well look, thank you so much for coming on the show today.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I've loved hearing your stories.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: You are such an inspiration and such a powerful person.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, I'm so proud of you and everything that you've done and just so grateful to be a friend.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: So thank you so much for coming on the show, catherine.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: It was a pleasure.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Well, gib, you're amazing.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: You know I love you.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me come on and for inspiring me, so thank you, I love this.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to this episode of Go Big with Gib.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: If you haven't already, go, follow us on social media at Gib Irrons.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.