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Ohio State Football Insider: 10 Things We Learned From Matt Patricia · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: caught up on all of that. Today you're going to
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Speaker 1: get a chance to hear from Ohio State defensive coordinator
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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia. He has become something of a favorite among
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Speaker 1: the Ohio State media. Lots of interesting stuff to say,
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Speaker 1: some you know, sort of honest and candid impressions, very
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Speaker 1: positive person as well, So very interesting to hear from
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Speaker 1: him on Friday last week. And now you're going to
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Speaker 1: get a chance to hear directly from Matt Patricia on
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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different topics. It's going to be
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Speaker 1: a little longer than our traditional morning shows. That's okay,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot to talk about. So this is again
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Speaker 1: after the second practice of the spring. We have now
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Speaker 1: had three practices, did not get to talk to anyone
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Speaker 1: after Saturday's practice, so you're gonna hear him talk sort
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Speaker 1: of in the future tents about putting on pads for
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Speaker 1: Saturday's practice.
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Speaker 2: So that is now in the past tense.
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Speaker 1: But this is the last time we get a chance
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Speaker 1: to talk to someone, so I'm gonna let to hear
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Speaker 1: from him. So here's Matt Patricia's first impressions this fall.
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Speaker 1: Just where he is with install and everything else to practice.
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Speaker 3: Is in Yeah, you know, it was great last couple
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Speaker 3: weeks of the summer program, the OTA's we kind of
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Speaker 3: got a head start, so we were able to go
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Speaker 3: through some of the install preview so that when we
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Speaker 3: came out today, yesterday and today that they're kind of
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Speaker 3: familiar with some of that stuff.
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Speaker 4: So their communication has been good.
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Speaker 3: You know, we had a couple yesterday and you always
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Speaker 3: a little bit different when you go against the offense
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Speaker 3: and things are moving faster pace to be able to
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Speaker 3: see some of the unique formations and some of the
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Speaker 3: motions and stuff. We need as much of that as
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Speaker 3: possible to get, you know, all over communication down.
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Speaker 4: But it was good.
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Speaker 3: It'll pick up year as we go. We're kind of
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Speaker 3: just focusing on some early down stuff. As we get
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Speaker 3: to more situational football, third down red area, that communication
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Speaker 3: is really going to be tested. So you know, we'll
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Speaker 3: see what happens here in the next couple of days.
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Speaker 4: Coming up with you.
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Speaker 1: This is something that we've heard Ryan Day talk about.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we've heard Brian Hartline talk about as they've
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Speaker 1: sort of seen their roles change over the years within
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Speaker 1: the program.
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Speaker 2: How do you figure out where you're going to be during.
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Speaker 1: The day during practice, which position groups you're gonna be
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Speaker 1: watching all that when you're the defensive coordinator and not
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Speaker 1: necessarily tethered to just one position group.
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Speaker 3: That's a great question, you know, as a young coach
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Speaker 3: one time talking to Mike Tomlin and he said, one
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Speaker 3: of the hardest things to transition from a position coach
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Speaker 3: to a coordinator and then a head coach is really
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Speaker 3: kind of mapping out where you go during practice. You
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Speaker 3: don't want to you don't want to have a plan.
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Speaker 3: So I always kind of took that advice and I
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Speaker 3: look at the practice schedule. I looked at the script.
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Speaker 3: You know, who's working on what fundamentals. A lot of
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Speaker 3: times that has to do with what we did the
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Speaker 3: day before, So I'm looking for some improvement and some
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Speaker 3: different points of emphasis there. And then I know that
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Speaker 3: sometimes when I go to an individual drill, it's gonna
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Speaker 3: intensify a little bit if I'm there. So I'm always
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Speaker 3: looking at the schedule and what we need to work
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Speaker 3: on that day, and then I'll map out what periods
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Speaker 3: I go where.
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Speaker 1: One of the hot topics on defense is Caleb Downs.
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Speaker 1: Obviously one of, if not the best defensive players in
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Speaker 1: the entire nation. Guys have him at safety, but how
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Speaker 1: much does he impact what Matt Patrisch is going to
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Speaker 1: do with maybe some of the other guys who are
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Speaker 1: at safety, and how does the play of the other
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Speaker 1: guys potentially open up things for Caleb Downs to be
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Speaker 1: able to do some different things.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, really good, you know good question as far as
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Speaker 3: when you have depth in a room, how do you
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Speaker 3: utilize all the players that are in it so you
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Speaker 3: can get them all on the field. And I think
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Speaker 3: creating jobs for guys in that you know sense is
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Speaker 3: really important to kind of give them an opportunity to
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Speaker 3: go learn and.
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Speaker 4: Put themselves on the field.
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Speaker 3: Caleb is such a versatile player that now you can
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Speaker 3: do that, you can move into some different spots to
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Speaker 3: give those other guys a chance to get on the
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Speaker 3: field in those roles.
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Speaker 4: So I feel like that room is really working.
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Speaker 3: I feel like there's some good young guys there that
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Speaker 3: have opportunity to kind of, you know, step up and contribute.
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Speaker 3: So having that piece and moving that around is good
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Speaker 3: for us to be able to evaluate those guys to
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Speaker 3: see if we can, you know, through the course of
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Speaker 3: the season do that.
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Speaker 1: One thing that we've seen a lot of and probably
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Speaker 1: more than we were expecting during those first three practices
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Speaker 1: with Caleb Downs playing at the nickel spot, he traditionally
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Speaker 1: was more of a deep safety or sometimes a box safety.
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Speaker 1: Then he then has been working at the nickel role
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Speaker 1: quite a bit during the first three gate practices.
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Speaker 2: So what does he bring to that spot?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think his ability to kind of play, whether
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Speaker 3: it's nickel or safety, or maybe he's just a lined
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Speaker 3: up in some different you know areas, it's just his communication.
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Speaker 4: He's such a good communicator just to.
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Speaker 3: Kind of let everybody know, we have words that settle
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Speaker 3: everything down. Even though I may be lined up in
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Speaker 3: something that may look like a certain position, it may
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Speaker 3: not be that position.
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Speaker 4: But the communication tells everybody what it is, and that's critical.
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Speaker 3: Otherwise everyone's kind of like where are we going and
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Speaker 3: how does this all fit? So his ability to do
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Speaker 3: that is really kind of what makes that go.
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Speaker 1: One of the new faces this fall is North Carolina
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Speaker 1: transfer defensive end Bo Atkinson. He was not in for spring.
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Speaker 1: He went through spring ball with Bill Belichick down in
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Speaker 1: Chapel Hill, then transferred to the Buckeyes after that. So
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Speaker 1: he's gotten a few practices in now under his belt
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Speaker 1: with Matt Patricia. So where does Patricia think they could
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Speaker 1: use him as compared to someone like Kenyadda Jackson or CJ.
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Speaker 1: Hicks or some of the other guys they've got at
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Speaker 1: this position.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you can never have enough pass rush.
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Speaker 3: I think that's you know, always a great theory as
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Speaker 3: a defensive coach, and certainly the best coverages pass rush.
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Speaker 3: You know, we want to get there as much as
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Speaker 3: we can. So those guys have some position flex too,
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Speaker 3: you know, they can move into different alignments, and I
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Speaker 3: think the more of those guys you can get on
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Speaker 3: the field, the faster you can become in the pass
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Speaker 3: rush game. Certainly down in distance in situation, we'll dictate
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Speaker 3: some of that, but I think just having players like
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Speaker 3: that that can go inside, outside, maybe line up in
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Speaker 3: some different alignments really make every offensive lineman that we
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Speaker 3: play against prepare for you. That's I think always harder
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Speaker 3: during the course of the week of a game week,
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Speaker 3: rather than you're always in one spot all the time.
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Speaker 3: You know, it just kind of depends on each player,
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Speaker 3: but we have some versatility there.
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Speaker 1: Coming out of the spring, the interior of the defensive
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Speaker 1: line was one of, if not the biggest question marks
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Speaker 1: on the team.
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Speaker 2: Where do things.
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Speaker 1: Stand right now with the interior of the defensive line,
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Speaker 1: remember Edrick Houston suffered a knee injury during the first
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Speaker 1: practice of the fall, and he has expected to be
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Speaker 1: back relatively soon. He's been moving around already better on
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Speaker 1: Friday's practice and then Saturday's practice again, So it doesn't
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Speaker 1: seem like that's a long term thing. But where are
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Speaker 1: things right now and how has Matta Patricia's seen things
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Speaker 1: progress there? So again, this was after practice too. You're
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Speaker 1: going to hear him sort of in this answer looking
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Speaker 1: ahead to practice three, which happened on Saturday.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it goes back to the spring and
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Speaker 3: then really the summer. I think the summer, those guys
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Speaker 3: had a different mindset to come in and work and
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Speaker 3: with coach Mick, you know, really push their bodies, really
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Speaker 3: work on getting stronger, being able to you know, use
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Speaker 3: the leverage that they have, and that's what we're looking
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Speaker 3: for now. It hard without pads On to kind of
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Speaker 3: get a judge on all that. We'll get a good
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Speaker 3: look at it as we put them on tomorrow. But
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Speaker 3: I think they really understand like, hey, it's time to go,
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Speaker 3: it's your time to.
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Speaker 4: Get out there.
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Speaker 3: It's you know, those older guys aren't here anymore. And
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Speaker 3: we've got to have a different mindset about that. We've
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Speaker 3: got to have in mindset where this is my job.
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Speaker 3: I got to go earn a job, or I have
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Speaker 3: to have this position, or the team needs me here,
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Speaker 3: and I got to, you know, really do a good
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Speaker 3: job of playing this role. So I think that pressure is,
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Speaker 3: you know, is on them.
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Speaker 4: I think they feel it. I think, you know, coach
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Speaker 4: Johnson's the.
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Speaker 3: Best there is, so he's He's got them going in
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Speaker 3: the direction that we need them to and we need
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Speaker 3: to see that tomorrow and we put the pads on.
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Speaker 1: Mentioned the injury to edwck Houston that happened on Thursday,
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Speaker 1: but a lot like the offensive line and that virus
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Speaker 1: that was going to the room last year. Sometimes guys
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Speaker 1: missing practice time can represent an opportunity for other people.
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Speaker 1: So what has Matt Patrista seen from the young guys
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Speaker 1: potentially getting an opportunity to get more snaps with the
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Speaker 1: ones without Edward Houston out there the last couple of practices.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you know, we we just kind of keep,
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Speaker 3: you know, going forward.
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Speaker 4: I think we have some young guys out there that.
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Speaker 3: Neet those reps, you know, and it's really good to see,
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Speaker 3: you know, Taiwan or you know, Jmo. Those guys get
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Speaker 3: out there and get that opportunity to go out. K
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Speaker 3: Mack obviously, you know we'll be in the middle there too,
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Speaker 3: and and will so we have some really good players
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Speaker 3: there and you know Edrick will get out there as
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Speaker 3: soon as he can. But right now it's opportunity for
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Speaker 3: other guys to go out and show us what they
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Speaker 3: can do.
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Speaker 1: The last couple of years, it felt like after three
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Speaker 1: seasons we had a pretty good sense for what it
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Speaker 1: meant to have a Jim Knowles defense at Ohio State.
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Speaker 1: So the Jim Knowles is off at Penn State and
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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia has replaced him as the DC for the
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Speaker 1: Buck Eyes.
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Speaker 2: What what do we expect.
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Speaker 1: To maybe be a little bit different about a Matt
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Speaker 1: Patricia defense this year compared to some of the previous seasons.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really great question. Obviously, not you know
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Speaker 3: firsthand being in the building last year. But look, we
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Speaker 3: have great coaches that are here, you know, that were
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Speaker 3: here last year, and I think it's my job to
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Speaker 3: really kind of make sure I'm adapting and learning to
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Speaker 3: what you know, we did really well last year, because
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Speaker 3: obviously it was great and we have great coaches that coach,
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Speaker 3: you know, these guys really well and developed these players
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Speaker 3: at a high level. So I think from that standpoint,
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Speaker 3: there'll be some things that are very similar to what
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Speaker 3: everybody's used to. I maybe teach a little bit differently.
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Speaker 3: That's probably the only you know, I can't really speak
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Speaker 3: on it. I just teach the way that I do.
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Speaker 3: It's more conceptually in big picture and things like that,
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Speaker 3: which gives us a little bit more position, flex and
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Speaker 3: multiplicity from that standpoint to book guys in different roles.
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Speaker 1: So Matt Patricia's background is almost entirely in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: He has been a college coach in the past, but
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Speaker 1: it has been about twenty years. So in the NFL
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Speaker 1: it's a lot more matchups. You're looking at matchups rather
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Speaker 1: than maybe sort of just overall scheme stuff. So does
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Speaker 1: that carry over here to college.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that was the biggest lesson I learned,
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Speaker 3: I think when I went to the NFL from college
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Speaker 3: was just how much it was to me. I used
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Speaker 3: to say it was more like the NBA than it
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Speaker 3: was anything else. Matchups and all that stuff was really important.
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Speaker 3: You know, that's definitely important. You know, if you're gonna
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Speaker 3: go play against JJ, you better know where he's lined
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Speaker 3: up every single play.
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Speaker 4: So some of that still carries over.
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Speaker 3: But right now for us, it's just about how do
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Speaker 3: we improve fundamentally.
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Speaker 4: How do we get a lot of young players.
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Speaker 3: You know, we lost a lot of really experienced veteran
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Speaker 3: leadership guys last year that are you know, in training
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Speaker 3: camps right now.
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Speaker 4: So how do we get these young guys.
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Speaker 3: Who are super talented up to speed, get them the
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Speaker 3: reps they need so they have that game like experience.
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Speaker 1: When then you notice when you see Matt Patricia out
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Speaker 1: on the practice field, when he's around you, he's smiling
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Speaker 1: a lot, he's a lot of hugging, a lot of
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Speaker 1: sort of embracing, a lot of very strong relationships that
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Speaker 1: feels like being built there. And that's true when he's
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Speaker 1: off on the other side of the practice field, and
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Speaker 1: it's not just for show, it's really that just seems
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Speaker 1: like how he is. Is that an intentional thing for
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Speaker 1: him at the college level because of the way the
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Speaker 1: relationships are with college players or is that different from
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Speaker 1: the NFL. What's the deal with all the hugging and
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Speaker 1: all those strong relationships that seem to be getting for no.
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Speaker 4: It certainly does.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I have great friends and relationships and
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Speaker 3: players that I have coached the NFL, and we have
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Speaker 3: great guys here. The players here are they're so they're
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Speaker 3: just great young men, you know. So you can't help
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Speaker 3: a gravity hate to them. And you know, as a coach,
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Speaker 3: that's that's my role, right I want to you know,
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Speaker 3: mentor and coach and help develop young men, you know,
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Speaker 3: eighteen to twenty two year old men in those stages
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Speaker 3: of not only football but life. So it's a true
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Speaker 3: joy for me just to be around them. They have
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Speaker 3: that energy, they have that youthfulness about them. They're very
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Speaker 3: into the game of football, which I love, so they
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Speaker 3: want to learn. I love to teach it, and you know,
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Speaker 3: just being able to be in that situation where I
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Speaker 3: can help them outside of the game is really important
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Speaker 3: to me.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 3: I think I've said to a lot of them, you know, look, Mike,
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Speaker 3: I have kids now that look up to them, you know,
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Speaker 3: so it's my job to be able to do everything
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Speaker 3: I can to help them be the best versions of themselves.
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Speaker 3: So that's what you know, my kids are looking up to.
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Speaker 1: Patricia joined the Buck Eyes after last year's national championship team,
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Speaker 1: so he was still relatively new at the start of
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Speaker 1: spring ball this spring. So how different are things now
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Speaker 1: compared to coming into and then coming out of the
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Speaker 1: spring game and then when he got even when he
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Speaker 1: got into the building in February, you know, in terms
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Speaker 1: of trust relationships, how much have things grown since then?
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Speaker 2: For him?
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think you're always trying to develop the
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Speaker 3: relationships and earn everybody's trust. I think it's really important that,
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Speaker 3: you know, I earn their trust. I think they need
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Speaker 3: to understand that I'm here to try to help them
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Speaker 3: be the best version of themselves that they can be.
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Speaker 3: And honestly, they're helping me.
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Speaker 4: With a lot too.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's great to be able to lean on
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Speaker 3: those guys and ask questions and you know they're telling me,
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Speaker 3: you know, really good information.
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Speaker 4: So I just think that relationship is what.
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Speaker 3: We're continually building, and it's a process and it'll be
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Speaker 3: different now than it is, you know, August to September
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Speaker 3: to you know, December and forward.
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Speaker 4: So that's the great part about the game.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I told the other day we were
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Speaker 3: talking about relationships and how important they are, and you know, it's.
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Speaker 4: One of the biggest things I think you miss when.
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Speaker 3: You're when when this game ends, you know, And and
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Speaker 3: why a lot of people get into coaching and always
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Speaker 3: want to be around the game is the games are great,
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Speaker 3: the wins are great, the championships are all great. But
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Speaker 3: you missed the locker room, you missed the camaraderie, you
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Speaker 3: missed the friendship, you missed that time together. It's something
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Speaker 3: that I just think is unique to the sport.
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Speaker 1: Mentioned earlier that Patricia has a long background in the
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Speaker 1: NFL and not so much in college. He took last
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Speaker 1: season off, spent a lot of time watching an NFL
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Speaker 1: but also watching college How much time has he actually
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Speaker 1: spent watching and studying college football to get used to
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Speaker 1: the adjustments that you have to make going from the
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Speaker 1: NFL to college.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot, you know, watching a lot of film,
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Speaker 3: and really started that process last year, you know, with
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Speaker 3: kind of a unique year for me. Last year I
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Speaker 3: watched a lot of NFL and a lot of college
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Speaker 3: tape just for that reason. You know, I think even
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Speaker 3: if you're in the NFL and the matriculation of the
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Speaker 3: players coming in the game has changed, there is a
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Speaker 3: lot more influence there always is college influence in the NFL,
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Speaker 3: and look, you're trying to play to the strengths of
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Speaker 3: the guys that you get in the NFL and they're
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Speaker 3: coming from college, so what do they do well?
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Speaker 4: And you want to study that.
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Speaker 3: But being in this environment, obviously we're watching that all
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Speaker 3: the time and we're taking a look at the tape
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Speaker 3: of what is trending, what is you know, what do
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Speaker 3: you have to be ready for.
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Speaker 4: The biggest thing for me is really the differences, right.
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Speaker 3: I think that's one of the biggest keys for me
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Speaker 3: to study and make sure that I'm paying attention with
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Speaker 3: the hash marks, you know, just simple things like that,
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Speaker 3: but formationally some of the rules that are different, and
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Speaker 3: then you know, you take the rules and then you
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Speaker 3: coach from the rules.
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Speaker 4: So how are we coaching everything and.
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Speaker 3: Making sure that it matches up with how it's going
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Speaker 3: to be officiated.
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Speaker 4: On the field.
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Speaker 1: When you ask guys who are moving from one level
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Speaker 1: to another what the differences are in terms of rules
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Speaker 1: and alignment, one of the first things you're going to
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Speaker 1: hear from everyone is the hash marks. In the college,
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Speaker 1: the hash marks are much wider than they are further
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Speaker 1: spread apart than they are in the NFL. So in
14:31
Speaker 1: the NFL, there's not really that wide a wide side
14:34
Speaker 1: of the field, and there's not short a boundary side
14:37
Speaker 1: of the field. In college, there's a big difference. Is
14:40
Speaker 1: that the biggest difference between college and the pros.
14:44
Speaker 4: That's a big one. It is a really big one.
14:45
Speaker 3: There's some formation and things that are a little bit
14:47
Speaker 3: different too, I would say because of the hash marks.
14:50
Speaker 3: But you know, being able to have some of those
14:52
Speaker 3: unbalanced looks and some of those unique sort of formations
14:55
Speaker 3: I think are are just different. And then just you know,
14:59
Speaker 3: whether it's the nuances and the rules right, you know,
15:01
Speaker 3: where we're allowed to uh jam and reroute and where
15:04
Speaker 3: we can it's a little bit different. I'm a little
15:05
Speaker 3: bit excited about what we can do. So those are
15:08
Speaker 3: those are the main ones.
15:10
Speaker 1: Patricia has been a very optimistic person ever since he
15:13
Speaker 1: got to Ohio State.
15:15
Speaker 2: What does he had? What is he liked so far
15:17
Speaker 2: in camp? For the buck.
15:18
Speaker 3: Guys, I mean, I like, our guys are really doing
15:22
Speaker 3: a great job with the installations. You know, we're we're
15:25
Speaker 3: going pretty quick, so they're coming in and they're pretty large.
15:28
Speaker 3: But I think our guys are handling that information on
15:30
Speaker 3: the field, and really one of the things that's been
15:31
Speaker 3: awesome about that is even yesterday the stuff that we
15:34
Speaker 3: put in we kind of ran a little bit of
15:36
Speaker 3: that today, made a couple of tweaks, and those corrections were,
15:40
Speaker 3: you know, handled really well today. So that to me
15:42
Speaker 3: is a sign of a smart team that can handle
15:44
Speaker 3: those adjustments, can be able to make those changes, which
15:47
Speaker 3: is what we're gonna need to do during a game.
15:49
Speaker 3: So that's really encouraging. I thought yesterday we flew around
15:52
Speaker 3: really well, we attacked the ball well, we got.
15:55
Speaker 4: Some turnovers there.
15:56
Speaker 3: I know that when that happens the next day, the
15:58
Speaker 3: offense is gonna you know, it's gonna tighten down. You
15:59
Speaker 3: may not get the same effect, but I still felt
16:01
Speaker 3: like we were attacking the ball that way.
16:04
Speaker 2: Mentioned earlier.
16:04
Speaker 1: The different stuff you can do with Caleb Downs at safety,
16:07
Speaker 1: a lot of that's going to depend on the other
16:09
Speaker 1: guys at safety. Jalen McClain, Malik Hartford, maybe Lee Roy Roger.
16:13
Speaker 1: What do those guys need to do to be able
16:15
Speaker 1: to keep up with Caleb Downs and allow Ohio State
16:18
Speaker 1: to be flexible at the safety position.
16:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, biggest thing for them is just every single day
16:23
Speaker 3: to improve and so we'll mark out things certainly like communication.
16:27
Speaker 3: That is the biggest thing. When you're a safety and
16:29
Speaker 3: you're playing in the middle of the defense, you have
16:31
Speaker 3: to be able to communicate to both sides.
16:33
Speaker 4: You have to be able to communicate to the linebackers.
16:35
Speaker 3: You know, you have to tie in all of that
16:37
Speaker 3: coverage stuff together and then with the motions and the formations,
16:41
Speaker 3: and I think for them with that communication, the hardest
16:43
Speaker 3: thing is just getting the game to slow down, you know,
16:45
Speaker 3: as things.
16:46
Speaker 4: Start to move. That comes with game reps.
16:48
Speaker 3: We don't have game reps before we get the game one,
16:50
Speaker 3: so we're gonna have to get it in practice the
16:52
Speaker 3: best we can win.
16:54
Speaker 1: One thing that might make it interesting to have Caleb
16:56
Speaker 1: Downs play a third spot or like the nickel role
16:59
Speaker 1: as opposed to us being the boundary guy or the
17:01
Speaker 1: field guy, or the deep guy or the box guy.
17:03
Speaker 1: However they want to sort of delineate that year, is
17:06
Speaker 1: that if he's going to be playing out there with
17:09
Speaker 1: just with just Malee Hartford, well that means he's probably
17:13
Speaker 1: going to be the box guy. It's probably gonna be
17:14
Speaker 1: the boundary guy, probably gonna be playing closer to the
17:16
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. If he's out there with Jillen McClain,
17:18
Speaker 1: mclaan might be that guy and KILEB. Downs might be
17:20
Speaker 1: the deep guy or the field guy. So how do
17:23
Speaker 1: you avoid being predictable with Caleb Downs being out there
17:27
Speaker 1: with one of those guys or the other.
17:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, self scout is really important there. But I
17:32
Speaker 3: think that you know they are well rounded players. They
17:36
Speaker 3: all can do some things that be in different positions
17:39
Speaker 3: and be in different alignments and still be productive. So
17:41
Speaker 3: making sure that we're conscious of that and continually moving
17:44
Speaker 3: them around because we don't want to just be in
17:46
Speaker 3: one situation where you'll always know what.
17:48
Speaker 2: It looks like.
17:48
Speaker 1: In terms of the adjustments from the pros to the
17:52
Speaker 1: college level mentioned earlier, the hash marks and some of
17:55
Speaker 1: the other alignment kind of things. One of the things though,
17:58
Speaker 1: that is a big difference is Ohio State. The first
18:01
Speaker 1: time they're out on the field with another team lined
18:03
Speaker 1: up on the other side of the ball from them.
18:05
Speaker 1: That's going to be one of the biggest games of
18:06
Speaker 1: the year against Texas. No preseason games like there are
18:10
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and that's going to take some getting
18:12
Speaker 1: used to for Matt Patricia.
18:13
Speaker 3: As well, yeah, you know, I never really appreciated those
18:16
Speaker 3: preseason games in the NFL, but right now I'm moshing
18:18
Speaker 3: we had one. I think, you know, we would say
18:21
Speaker 3: it all the time, like everybody needs preseason, everyone needs
18:23
Speaker 3: training camp, and certainly game day operation, I think is
18:26
Speaker 3: one that is really important, you know, And I thought
18:30
Speaker 3: that was great to be able to do that in
18:31
Speaker 3: the NFL.
18:32
Speaker 4: We got to hit the ground running when.
18:33
Speaker 3: We get to week one and make sure that as
18:36
Speaker 3: a coaching staff, you know, we're on point. We have
18:39
Speaker 3: good communication, whether it's from upstairs to downstairs, being able
18:42
Speaker 3: to see what's on the field, even just simple things
18:44
Speaker 3: like substitutions and packages going in and out and people
18:47
Speaker 3: being in the right spot. So we have to simulate
18:49
Speaker 3: that as we go through training camp to make sure. Look,
18:53
Speaker 3: our guys are great, they've done it before. It's probably
18:55
Speaker 3: more me nervous than anything.
18:56
Speaker 4: You know.
18:56
Speaker 3: I'm the one that's got to adjust and change, so
18:58
Speaker 3: I think they'll be fine. I'll be the one I'll
19:00
Speaker 3: be trying to figure it out.
19:01
Speaker 1: Mentioned earlier some of the stuff that Matt Patricia studied
19:04
Speaker 1: last year as he was sort of taking a sabbatical
19:06
Speaker 1: year between his last pro job and now taking the
19:09
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator job at Ohio State. What did he learn
19:13
Speaker 1: during that year off that made him decide he was
19:15
Speaker 1: going to come back to college after nearly twenty years.
19:18
Speaker 3: You know, for me, I think last year a couple
19:20
Speaker 3: of things. One it was really going back to I
19:25
Speaker 3: got into coaching for a reason. You know, I left
19:27
Speaker 3: engineering to get into coaching because I just really wanted
19:30
Speaker 3: to teach and mentor and how important my coaches were,
19:32
Speaker 3: especially in college. You know, my college coaches were to
19:35
Speaker 3: just growing up, you know, and being a young adult,
19:38
Speaker 3: young a young man, trying to figure it out. And
19:40
Speaker 3: so it was really a way to kind of give back.
19:43
Speaker 3: I want to get back and I wanted.
19:44
Speaker 4: To help people.
19:45
Speaker 3: I just really want to help people, and teach came
19:47
Speaker 3: from that background with my parents and stuff. So I
19:50
Speaker 3: think I had a good opportunity to kind of sit
19:52
Speaker 3: back and be like, hey, I got to get back
19:54
Speaker 3: to just you know, getting the joy of being a
19:56
Speaker 3: great teacher and a great mentor and those relationships. And
20:00
Speaker 3: so that was a big thing for me that was
20:01
Speaker 3: really important, and that's what a lot of it drew
20:04
Speaker 3: me back to the college game, to being around you know,
20:07
Speaker 3: guys of that age, you know, and not be able
20:09
Speaker 3: to have that influence. I will tell you that also
20:12
Speaker 3: last year doing media, I have a much better appreciation
20:17
Speaker 3: for how difficult the job is for all of you
20:20
Speaker 3: in the media to you know, do what you guys
20:22
Speaker 3: do every single day, Like that's not natural for me,
20:25
Speaker 3: but you know, the work that everyone puts into it
20:28
Speaker 3: from the media standpoint, and to get the message out
20:31
Speaker 3: to the fans right, and to be that connection between
20:33
Speaker 3: the coaches and the team and the fans, and to
20:35
Speaker 3: really also have that football mind right where you're diving
20:38
Speaker 3: into the game and you're taking a look at schematics
20:40
Speaker 3: and scheme and all of that is to me, that
20:44
Speaker 3: is an incredibly difficult job, and I would say I
20:47
Speaker 3: have a huge appreciation for that.
20:49
Speaker 1: And the last question about Kenyata Jackson, He's someone that
20:52
Speaker 1: we've heard a ton about from a whole lot of
20:55
Speaker 1: different people. That's usually a pretty good indication that someone
20:57
Speaker 1: has taken a major step on the field, off the field,
21:00
Speaker 1: or perhaps in Kanyatas Jackson's case, both, So we've heard
21:04
Speaker 1: a lot about him. Is that something that Matt Patricia
21:07
Speaker 1: is seeing as well?
21:08
Speaker 3: I would echo all of that I think Kenyata has
21:11
Speaker 3: just really from I mean day one that I walked
21:14
Speaker 3: in the building, stepped forward and said, okay, hey, let
21:18
Speaker 3: me be in front. Let me do the drill first,
21:20
Speaker 3: let me learn, you know, let me do the lit
21:23
Speaker 3: whatever it is. It's like, get me out in the front,
21:25
Speaker 3: let me go compete, let me push myself. I think
21:28
Speaker 3: that everyone sees how hard he is pushing himself, and
21:31
Speaker 3: you can't help but gravitate towards that, saying, if this
21:33
Speaker 3: guy is working this hard, man, I got to get
21:35
Speaker 3: my stuff together. I got to go work as hard
21:37
Speaker 3: as he is, because you know, he is setting the
21:39
Speaker 3: standard as we go forward, and I think everybody feels that.
21:43
Speaker 2: I hope you guys enjoyed that.
21:44
Speaker 1: Definitely enjoyed hearing from Matt Patricia that boy, we're going
21:48
Speaker 1: to miss Jim Knowles. Jim Knowles press conferences. We're always
21:50
Speaker 1: kind of fun and interesting. Patricia very much the same,
21:53
Speaker 1: good personality, a lot of interesting stuff to say.
21:56
Speaker 2: So hope you guys enjoyed that one.
21:57
Speaker 1: We're gonna have much more coverage coming for you this
22:00
Speaker 1: week at bucke Huddle dot com as the Buckey's enter
22:02
Speaker 1: Week two of fall camp and count down the days
22:06
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22:09
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22:11
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22:13
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22:15
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22:18
Speaker 1: coverage previewing the season. Got lots of recruiting coverage for
22:21
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22:24
Speaker 1: As we count down the days to that Ohio State
22:26
Speaker 1: Texas game and the start of the twenty twenty five
22:28
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22:33
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