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LNC Sings Spooky Halloween Songs · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the largenr John Collider Podcast, the
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  Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geeky stuff happening in the
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  Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm aerial cast and with me it's always is the
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  Speaker 1: wonderful Jonathan.
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  Speaker 2: Strickland where wolf a mitzvah, spooky, scary, very always becoming men,
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  Speaker 2: men becoming wolves again. Yeah, which leads right in to
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  Speaker 2: our question. I'm wasting no time, Okay, So I decide
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  Speaker 2: our question of this week would be, you know, what's
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  Speaker 2: what's a favorite or a song you like that is
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  Speaker 2: is uh relevant for the spooky season, doesn't have to
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  Speaker 2: be directly about Halloween or anything, but kind of has
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  Speaker 2: those spooky vibes to it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it fits. My first initial thought
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  Speaker 1: is the whole being dead thing from Beetlejuice the musical,
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  Speaker 1: and mainly because I really like how they're able to
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  Speaker 1: how they have revamped the lyrics to fit whatever situation
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  Speaker 1: they're in. So not only is it a spooky song,
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  Speaker 1: but it's improvy and changeable and I like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they did a slightly different version when they
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  Speaker 2: were at I think it was the.
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  Speaker 1: Tony's and they did a different version for the Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 1: Day parade the year they did that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course they have to because there's some language
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  Speaker 2: in that song that can't be broadcast.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean really, I enjoy a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the Beetlejuice soundtrack, and beyond that, I would say just
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  Speaker 1: some of the basic, like really old school stuff like
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  Speaker 1: Monster Mash and Purple People. Sure that's those are those
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  Speaker 1: are my answers.
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  Speaker 2: So, so my favorite is were Wolves of London by
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  Speaker 2: Warren Zevon. So it's a great song. His hair was perfect.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that has anything to do with
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  Speaker 1: the song itself, Jonathan.
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  Speaker 2: It's in a lyric I saw a werewolf standing outside
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  Speaker 2: with a Pinacolada trader vix. His hair was perfect. Oh
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  Speaker 2: I love that song. But here are some other songs
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  Speaker 2: that if you were to make a Halloween playlist, these
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  Speaker 2: are the ones that would be on my Halloween playlist.
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  Speaker 2: So dead Man's Party by Oingo Boingo, fantastic song, Psycho
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  Speaker 2: Killer by Talking Heads, Uh, Superstition by Stevie Wonder because
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  Speaker 2: that is an absolute all time classic. When you hear
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  Speaker 2: that that funky organ starting up, Oh my gosh, it's
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  Speaker 2: so good. Bad Moon Rising by Creden's Clearwater Revival, Don't
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  Speaker 2: Fear the Reaper by Blue Oyster Cult. Here's my shows stopper,
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  Speaker 2: my campy Halloween song Anything Can Happen on Halloween, made
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  Speaker 2: famous by Tim Curry and The Worst Witch. Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 2: I'll send you a video after the podcast. It is
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  Speaker 2: so The Worst Witch was like I think it was
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  Speaker 2: made for HBO back in the day, so it's like
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  Speaker 2: a made for TV movie but for cable TV, and
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  Speaker 2: it's based off a series of books. And Tim Curry
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  Speaker 2: shows up very briefly. It's essentially a cameo and he
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  Speaker 2: sings this incredibly cheesy song called anything Can Happen on
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  Speaker 2: Halloween that is is almost cringe worthy, but I unironically
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  Speaker 2: love it. Also, our friend Lucas occasionally sings this at karaoke,
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  Speaker 2: which is special. Also on my list right hand by
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  Speaker 2: Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds made famous by the
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  Speaker 2: Screen movies.
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  Speaker 1: That's my character's theme song for the actual play I'm in.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the cover of it, that's great. That's a great song.
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  Speaker 2: I have the cover of Googo Muck by The Cramps,
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  Speaker 2: which was made famous by Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: That song was originally recorded by a group called Ronnie
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  Speaker 2: Cook and the Gay Lads. That's just their name, but yes,
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  Speaker 2: the Cramps would be the one that did the cover
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  Speaker 2: that got a lot of airplay after Wednesday came out. Also,
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  Speaker 2: Zombie Jamboree originally by Lord Intruder, but I actually prefer
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  Speaker 2: Harry Belafonte's version of that song. And finally, Bela Lugosi's
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  Speaker 2: Dead by Boohus. That's a two fer instance. Bella Lugosi
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  Speaker 2: played Dracula.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome. There is one other song I want
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  Speaker 1: to add to my list, and I'm really surprised it's
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  Speaker 1: not on yours, hmmm, which is Night on Bald Mountain.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you're doing class pieces, then Night on
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  Speaker 2: Bald Mountain would be there, Dance Macabre would be there,
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  Speaker 2: like there there are a few classical Hall of the
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  Speaker 2: Mountain King Like, there's a couple of classical pieces that
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  Speaker 2: I would throw in their box to Cotta and Fuguen
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  Speaker 2: d Minor is another big one. But yeah, I was
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  Speaker 2: mostly thinking of like pop and rock songs, fair and
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  Speaker 2: novelty in the case of anything can happen on Halloween.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so if you're if you're thinking I need
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  Speaker 2: to make a playlist of Halloween songs, that's a good start.
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  Speaker 2: There's lots of other versions and lots of other songs
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  Speaker 2: out there, obviously, but those are like the ones that
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  Speaker 2: would be the kind of the anchor for my playlist.
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  Speaker 1: I have one other spooky song, yeah yeah, Raven Boys
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  Speaker 1: by ten Penny Travelers.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, which is bad for anybody who doesn't, which is
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  Speaker 2: a variation on Bedlam Boys.
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  Speaker 1: Is Boys, Yeah, yeah, it is, which I also like.
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  Speaker 1: I just we've had a counter melody and some like
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  Speaker 1: I like the way we do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Bethlem Boys is also a really creepy song,
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  Speaker 2: like it's it's legit already a creepy song before even
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  Speaker 2: you get into your particular flare on it. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: a good one. I think I was waiting for you
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  Speaker 2: to say I'm a Barbie girl or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was where you're gonna like, like really
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  Speaker 2: throw it into left field.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, is like I don't usually think
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  Speaker 1: of music as spooky, and if I do, it often
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  Speaker 1: like leaves my head. I'm sure there are other, like
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  Speaker 1: more alternative songs that I also find kind of spooky,
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  Speaker 1: especially if you listen to the lyrics. But like I know,
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  Speaker 1: there are a couple indie indie rock kind of bands
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  Speaker 1: that have some very spooky songs to me, but I
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  Speaker 1: can't seem to remember them.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I. For me, it's like, because I like a
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  Speaker 2: lot of subgenres of rock and punk, there are a
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  Speaker 2: lot of songs that kind of fall into that category,
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  Speaker 2: or they're close enough. So like the horror at Party Beach.
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  Speaker 2: There's a band called Sloppy Seconds that does a song
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  Speaker 2: this based off this super cheesy b movie from like
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  Speaker 2: the nineteen sixties, or you know, I think of you know,
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  Speaker 2: even songs like Welcome to the Jungle or or Highway
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  Speaker 2: to Hell are adjacent, right, like they're in the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: But there's no shortage of songs that are based in
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  Speaker 2: and around spooky stuff. I mean their entire bands like
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  Speaker 2: The Misfits or you know, Rob Zombie that have done
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  Speaker 2: like entire albums in that kind of field.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't even mention anything from from Rocky Horror,
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  Speaker 1: did you?
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  Speaker 2: I did not. I thought about throwing time warp in there,
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  Speaker 2: because I mean that that's often a song you will
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  Speaker 2: hear on Halloween playlists. I would actually probably do science
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  Speaker 2: fic double feature if I were going to do any
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  Speaker 2: of the songs from Rocky Horror on a playlist. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's just more thematically appropriate. Maybe there's a light
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  Speaker 2: at the Frankenstein Place.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that song isn't. I don't know, It's not
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  Speaker 1: my favorite.
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  Speaker 2: I like it a lot. I like the play version
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  Speaker 2: a lot because it has another verse in it. The
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  Speaker 2: movie cuts an entire verse, Brad's verse. Actually, most of
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  Speaker 2: Brad's songs got cut in the movie version. Brad Brad
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  Speaker 2: got it the short end of the stick. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but there we go. So that's that's that's our list
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  Speaker 2: of spooky appropriate songs. Let's now talk about stuff we've
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  Speaker 2: watched since the last time we recorded. Ariel.
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  Speaker 1: You want to go first, Yeah, I've watched a third
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  Speaker 1: of a more of an episode of Wednesday season two.
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  Speaker 2: It takes you, It takes you. It takes you shifts
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  Speaker 2: to get through an episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. The problem is like I'm putting it all in
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  Speaker 1: when so like the past couple of weeks have been
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  Speaker 1: super busy. I'm prepping for I'm prepping for a show,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going into the studio to do a studio
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  Speaker 1: recording with Artsy and my actual playes started. So there's
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  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff that like, and I'm in
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  Speaker 1: like two acting classes and so there's a whole bunch
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  Speaker 1: of stuff I'm doing. And so it's really when I
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  Speaker 1: sit down because I don't have the brain anymore to
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  Speaker 1: do anything else. And usually the period of time that
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  Speaker 1: I have to do that is only like fifteen or
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  Speaker 1: twenty minutes before I go to do something else or
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  Speaker 1: Tony gets done with his work and we watch something together.
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  Speaker 1: But we have been watching stuff together. So we've been
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: watching task Master. We're down to series six, and we're
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  Speaker 1: also caught up on series twenty.
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  Speaker 2: So you're working both ways outward.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we started with nineteen and worked away backwards, but
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  Speaker 1: series twenty just came out. It's really cool, like because
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  Speaker 1: it's it's dropping in the UK and the US at
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  Speaker 1: the same time on YouTube, which has some pretty potentially
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  Speaker 1: cool connotations for that sort of media distribution and timing.
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  Speaker 1: And then we have watched everything but the final episode
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  Speaker 1: of Peacemaker.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well I watched the final episode of peace
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  Speaker 2: Maker season two. I have lots of oh, I'm giving
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  Speaker 2: a big aerial great choice for an audio podcast. She
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  Speaker 2: was indicating either a thumbs up or a thumbs down.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, listen, I only got like four hours sleep last night.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give an audible thumbs up. I was concerned about
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  Speaker 2: where the last episode was going to go based upon
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  Speaker 2: the penultimate episode, because the penultimate episode ends in a
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  Speaker 2: way where I'm like, Wow, there's a character who's in
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  Speaker 2: a very very dark psychological place, and I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how they're going to reconcile that. I will say that
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion, this is just my opinion. I felt
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  Speaker 2: the reconciliation was a little too easy and quick, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: like based upon But their are counter arguments you could
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  Speaker 2: make to that, so I'm not saying my opinion is
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  Speaker 2: the right way to look at it. I could easily
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  Speaker 2: be persuaded to think otherwise, depending upon what tax someone
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  Speaker 2: took when they were talking about it. We will be
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: talking a little bit about it more in thirty seconds
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: or less, so I'll withhold the rest until we get
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: to that. But overall, yeah, positive. I thought they did
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  Speaker 2: a good job. I thought it was interesting what set up,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't want to spoil anything for anyone who
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  Speaker 2: hasn't seen it yet, so I'm curious to hear what
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  Speaker 2: other people think. I also watched a horror movie, not
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  Speaker 2: a horror movie, really a ghost movie. Horror is way
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  Speaker 2: too strong a word. I watched a eight because it
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: was more of a sad movie, though the end does
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: get really freaking tense, Like for most of the movie
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: it's just kind of sad, and then the last like
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  Speaker 2: fifteen minutes are really super tense. But it's a movie
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  Speaker 2: called Presence. It came out last year. Steven Soderberg is
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  Speaker 2: the director. I don't know that you would love this one.
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  Speaker 2: This is a very slow moving film. It's one where
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  Speaker 2: I absolutely say do not read about it if you're
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  Speaker 2: going to watch it, because yeah, don't read about it.
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  Speaker 2: You could totally watch this areal It's it's not there's
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  Speaker 2: nothing in it. I think that goes beyond your your boundaries.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very slow moving film. It is told from
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  Speaker 2: the perspective of the presence within the house.
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  Speaker 1: So what interesting.
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  Speaker 2: The camera view is always the presence, so you are
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  Speaker 2: you are gliding around this house, which means like they
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  Speaker 2: had to rely on ambient lighting inside the rooms, and
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  Speaker 2: they couldn't. They couldn't mount lights or anything because the
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  Speaker 2: camera would see it as you were moving in and
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  Speaker 2: out of rooms unless they did some very clever edits,
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  Speaker 2: but I get the sense they didn't do that. It
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  Speaker 2: looks to me like it's a like a digital camera
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  Speaker 2: on a gimbal system, so it's kind of like a
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  Speaker 2: steady cam and it sort of glides through, and there
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of little time skips where the screen
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  Speaker 2: will go dark and then it'll suddenly be forward in time,
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  Speaker 2: and it's it's very hard as the audience to determine
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  Speaker 2: how much time has passed, but that's on purpose, and
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  Speaker 2: I could see people saying that it's boring or very slow.
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  Speaker 2: I loved it. It's also kind of the examination of
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  Speaker 2: a family that's on the verge of potentially falling apart,
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  Speaker 2: so and you only get bits and pieces of why
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  Speaker 2: that is because you're seeing it from this presence's point
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  Speaker 2: of view, and the presence is not always present when
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  Speaker 2: things are unfolding. So very interesting. I thought it was great.
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  Speaker 2: I could understand why some people would be turned off
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  Speaker 2: by it because it's just very slow. The other thing
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  Speaker 2: I watched were the first two episodes of Haunted Hotel.
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  Speaker 2: This is that animated series. One of the writers of
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  Speaker 2: Rick and Morty is behind it. It's okay, like it's
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  Speaker 2: a comedy series, but nothing made me even close to laughter,
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  Speaker 2: Like I didn't feel like laughing at all. And it
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  Speaker 2: also it also feels very derivative of series like Ghosts, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like I mean it's it's got the same basic premise
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  Speaker 2: as Ghosts in many ways.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a couple of friends who liked it,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know it falls Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I just I don't know, Like none of the jokes
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  Speaker 2: landed for me. I didn't think they were terrible, they
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  Speaker 2: just it felt very bland, like very mediocre. Now, maybe
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  Speaker 2: it gets better as you go further into it. Like
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  Speaker 2: I said, I've only seen two episodes, so maybe as
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  Speaker 2: I go further. If I do go further, I'll like
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  Speaker 2: it more. But from what I've seen, it's just very.
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  Speaker 1: Bland, which is sad because I really like the actor
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  Speaker 1: who plays the ghost, Jimmy Simpson's incredibly talented and funny.
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  Speaker 2: I believe Jimmy Simpson's playing Abadon, who is not a
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  Speaker 2: ghost but is a demon possessing the body of a
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  Speaker 2: seventeenth century child.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that is who he's playing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there.
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  Speaker 1: You can tell. I haven't watched it, but I can.
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  Speaker 2: The main characters are there's a mother, her thirteen year
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  Speaker 2: old son, and her tween age daughter who's the real
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  Speaker 2: like there's some real Louise energy going on with the
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  Speaker 2: tween age daughter, like she from Louise Bob's Burgers. She's
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  Speaker 2: very much a troublemaker kind of character. Then you have Abadon,
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  Speaker 2: who is a demon in the body of a seventeenth
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  Speaker 2: century boy. And you have the uncle played by Will Forte,
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  Speaker 2: who is the former owner of the hotel who died
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  Speaker 2: and willed it to his sister, the mom character. So
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  Speaker 2: that's that's your basic core group. And yeah, and they're
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  Speaker 2: running a hotel that's haunted by lots of different ghosts.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, as I was watching it, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: this feels like ghosts, but not as good.
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  Speaker 1: I do think that I would enjoy it more than
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  Speaker 1: whatever that live action haunted house hotel show.
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  Speaker 2: That was being made American horror story. It's the only
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  Speaker 2: one I could think of.
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  Speaker 1: Like there was another comedic one where a family moves
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  Speaker 1: into a house or a hotel. It had oh when
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  Speaker 1: he played Phoebe Buffet.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Lisa Kudrou, is that the one with Brian Cox
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  Speaker 2: in it?
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  Speaker 1: I believe?
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  Speaker 2: So that's that was the dark the dark comedy one.
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  Speaker 2: Not like it wasn't a lighthearted comedy. It was more
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  Speaker 2: of a satire as I call it.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's that's not That's not the show that I
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  Speaker 1: was saw, Not the one where everybody wants to move
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  Speaker 1: into the same house.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I didn't think that was the one I
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  Speaker 2: was talking about either, but maybe it was.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Uh yeah, Lisa Kudro, Parker Posey, Brian Cox,
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  Speaker 2: Edie Falco. Yeah, yes that one, Yes, this is that's
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  Speaker 2: the one. I said. It was more of a dark comedy.
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  Speaker 2: It's a comedy horror. That one's a film, not a series.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, oh is it a film.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many of these things where I'm like, that
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  Speaker 1: is a TV concept, that is a movie concept, and
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  Speaker 1: then apparently I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I mean saying like it's That's why I always have
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: to look it up before, like and take notes on
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: it before we do one of these episodes, because I'll
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: be like halfway through describing a trailer and then realize,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a movie or a series.
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  Speaker 1: I do look it up, I just don't take notes,
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  Speaker 1: and then I forget. Hey, great cinema. Plus, you guys
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: had to listen to me try to figure out what
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: this movie was for five minutes for absolutely no reward.
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  Speaker 1: It's great audio listening.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so let us move to a smooth section that
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: we like to call. Hey, that didn't take that long,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: so I'll start. In an interview, James Gunn revealed that
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: there are no current plans for a Peacemaker season three,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: so if you've seen the end of season two you
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: might be left saying what the why? But don't worry.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Guns plan is to incorporate developments from the series into
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: the larger DC Cinemac universe. Now, I'm not going to
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: go into any more details because spoilers, but this is
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: good news for folks who have become fans of John
• 19:02
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• 19:06
  Speaker 1: John Cena is such a good actor, Okay. Jim Henson
• 19:10
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  Speaker 1: and The Dark Crystal. And along with that, if you
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: listen to this episode soon enough on October twelfth and thirteenth,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: The Dark Crystal is being re released into theaters in
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: four K. I think all that's very cool. I will
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: not be able to look at the auction stuff if
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: it is online at all, because I don't have that
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: kind of money, but I will want to buy everything.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I looked ahead at some of the things
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: that are being auctioned off and they are in the
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: tens of thousands of dollars in some cases. Well, this week,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: discussions for a lie the action adaptation of Disney's Tangled
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: started up again, and the rumors say that Scarlet Black
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Widow Johanson is in consideration to play the live action
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: mother Gothel. Now. I think it might be fun to
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: see Johanson playing an outright despicable villain, though in general
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan of the live action adaptations
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: that Disney's been doing. Still, if it has done well,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: maybe I'll check this one out.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Cynthia Arrivo is moving into voice acting. I don't know
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: if she's done that before, honestly, but she's going to
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: be in an animated musical called Bad Fairies, and she
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: is playing a character, a fairy character called James Staplegun,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: which I think is a great name for a bad fairy.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: That's really what we know about it. It's being done
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: by Locksmith Animation, who did Ron's Gone Wrong, and Warner
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Brothers Animation. But yeah, it's about some fairies that are bad.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on board. When asked if he'll be showing
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: up in either the next Spider Man movie or Avengers Doomsday,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Andrew Garfield gave a categorical no. Actually, he also included
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: some colorful language that I can't say because this is
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: a family show. But he also admitted that no one
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: is likely to believe him because he categorically denied being
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: involved in Spider Man No Way Home, and yet he
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: showed up in that. This time, I think he actually
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: means it.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: In Broadway News, Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter are tearing
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: it up in Waiting for Goodow. I've seen a couple
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: of Eclipse in like interviews and stuff, and it looks delightful.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Apparently they asked Keanu Reeves if they'd be willing to
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: go back and do another Bill and Ted and Keanu
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Reeves was like, for sure, Yes, I enjoyed the third one,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: but I don't know that I need a fourth.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw the third one and I remember I
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: liked it, but I can literally remember nothing else about it.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: But for like nostalgia reasons.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the next season on Broadway, assuming we get one
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: with the Strikes and all, is shaving up to be
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: pretty weird. We're not only getting Schmigadoon but also a
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: musical adaptation of the nineteen eighties horror comedy classic The
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Lost Boys the Vampire Movie. There was a cast announcement,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: but I don't know any of the actors, so I'm
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: not going to list him here. For the show debuts
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: at the end of March twenty twenty six. And there's
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: one thing I can't stomach on Broadway. All the damn vampires.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Now. I want to do a video with The Lost
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Boys and Peter Pan, even though it's all very similar anyhow,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: because that's the name. Okay, dexter resurrection, less vampires, more
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: serial killer. But it's getting a second season. Michael Sea
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Hall is that his name, Yes, Michael Sea Hall gave
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: us the announcement. It was a little video. I don't know.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I almost feel like he was sick in the video
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: because it looks like he's laying down in just kind
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: of little energy, but happy about it. I haven't watched
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Dexter or Dexter Resurrection or Dexter Muppet Babies yet.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Fair enough, just as theaters are recovering from all the
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: chaos from the first Minecraft movie, we now know that
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: a sequel is on the way. Jared Hess will be
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: directing this one, just as he did the first one.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: The new film is slated to hit theaters on July
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: twenty third, twenty twenty seven. Jason Momoa, who appeared in
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: the first film, is listed as one of the producers.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: And there is no title for this movie yet. But
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: my bet is on Minecraft the Chicken Jockey Movie.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be Minecraft Don't destroy the theaters.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we won't let you in if you bring a chicken. Yeah,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: which I think just should go as a blanket rule. Anyway,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: probably does. People just were sneaking chickens into theaters.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, like I get it chickens can be good companions,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: but not in a theater. Not in a theater. Not
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: in a theater. I never I haven't seen the Minecraft movie.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I had a friend who saw it.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: It's definitely for kids, that's the thing, right, If you
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: go in as an adult to watch it, maybe you'll
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: enjoy it if you've got the right sensibilities, but you
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: might also find it really dumb because it's not necessarily
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: made for you.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there there are ways, obviously, to make
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: kid focused material appealing to everybody, Like, there are plenty
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: of shows and movies that have done that in the past.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: It's not always easy, but it's not easy to make
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: a good anything, right. It takes a lot of work
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: and talent in order to do that, and sometimes a
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: lot of luck depending upon the situation. So but yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I feel like, like, one, I understand what you're saying, Ariel,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: But I also I always always get my hackles up
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: with the defense of, oh, but this is for kids,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: because I'm like, yeah, but some stuff is for kids
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: that's just playing good, you know, and some stuff is
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: for kids where it's not good but kids don't care
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: because they haven't developed enough of brain cells to understand.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, but I mean there's a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: place for both, right.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Because sure, yeah, I mean especially for like, the younger
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: you go, the more like, the more of slack, I'll
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: give you. Right, So if you're aiming, if your aim
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: is for like the four to six crowd, I'm not
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: expecting waiting for Goodou or my dinner with Andre.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: No, No, that would be waiting for Plato.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, waiting for Pladeaux. Yeah, thank you.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I'll be here all week.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: It was a great It was a great joke. It
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: was a great joke. Aeriel Uh. Yeah, I I I
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: haven't seen Minecraft either. I don't have any real desire
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: to see it. I haven't seen like any of the
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: video game films that have come out over the last
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: like five years, because I don't have kids, so I
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: don't have a real reason to go. And I would
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: feel like a creep going to the theater to see
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: most of these, and I just haven't bothered watching them
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: at home. So I haven't seen Sonic or the Super
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Mario Brothers movie or any of those.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't either. I feel like I've seen some
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: more kids trick stuff. I can't remember what offhand, but yeah,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I also, I also don't have kids, so I have
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: to borrow my sister's kids.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I think the only one I would be somewhat tempted
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: to watch at this point is maybe Detective Pikachu.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I have seen that, but I saw it at home.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm not a Pokemon person either, so I would
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: be like, I'd be like, none of these references mean
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: anything to me, but I've heard that it's cute.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: There are kids movies I enjoy watching. They aren't really
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: related to video games very much. Detective Pikachu was okay,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: And then there are adult video game movies that I
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: also don't plan on watching, like Tron Aries.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: So well, yeah, but that wasn't let's be fair, the
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: original Tron wasn't a video game, like, it wasn't based
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: off video games. It invented a video game.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I guess you could argue now the current Tron films
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: like Tron legas See and tron Aris are kind of
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: video game movies more so than the original was. But
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: uh yeah, I don't have much desire to watch that
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: one either. Because we've talked about this before, but it's
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: because of Jared Letto, I have no real desire to
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: want to support his work.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and like there are other people, like our
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: friend Crispy saw it, and there are other He's not
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: a big Jared Letto fan either, but there are other
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: people in the movie that Crispy does know that, you know,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: he wanted to support, and I get that. It's yeah,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: it's just not.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Also, I prefer Daft Punk to nine inch Nails, you know,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: like it's like the aesthetic of Tron Legacy intrigued me. Ultimately,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I found the movie to be almost as aimless as
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: the original. Like I still like the original movie, but
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I recognize that is a mess of a movie, like
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the original Tron is. I would not call it a
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: good movie, y'all. And I I once interviewed the director
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: of that film.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: But it was interesting from like a technical standpoint.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Right, Yes, from a technical standpoint, it was amazing at
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the time, Like you have to remember that at the time,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: like this is like an era before computer animation. Really. Yeah,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, like Tron Legacy, I if it
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: weren't for Michael Sheen in that movie, I think it
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: would be a complete loss for me. But Michael Sheen's
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: performance is the one and daft punk soundtrack. Those are
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: the two things in that movie that I legitimately loved.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: If everything had been on that level, then I would
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: have thought it was one of the best science fiction
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: films ever made.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Did you see the honest trailer for Tron two that
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: came out recently? They're like, they're like, Michael Sheen will
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: do any movie you want as long as he gets
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to wear a bad wig.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's clearly channeling David Bowie. Yes, like it's
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: it's it's obvious that it's a David bow pastiche. But
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I love it so much.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I do, like even when he's being completely campy
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: and goofy, Like I think he is an amazing actor
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: who does some projects that just really fall flat with me.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I guess Underworld was okay, but the Twilight Movies Tron
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: two was just okay. Yeah, But you know, he's also,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: or at least was, a not for profit actor, so yeah,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: but he doesn't need to live. He gives to charity
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: and like, I don't hear of many other people doing that.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: So talented and really freaking cool.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I mean he was he was a core component of
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: resuscitating a failed theater in Wales. That that to me
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: is because you know, he has his own background in
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: live stage theater and so he felt it very important
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: that they have their own national theater in Wales, and
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: he spearheaded an effort to save it, which is pretty amazing. Also,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: anything he does with David Tennant is gold like. And
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about their actual like project projects, but
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: whenever they're like sniping at each other, it's some of
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: the funniest stuff you've ever seen.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got a really good chemistry and I would
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: assume friendship that is just a delight to watch.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love how I love how it continues
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: to develop, like there's lore to it.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Welcome to our new podcast, The Michael Sheen Fan Club.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Now yeah, yeah, let's now move into stuff that's not
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: quite a fit for our show. Although arguably, once again
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: some of these are are like borderline, and I would
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: include the first one, although it's more of a dark
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: comedy satire, but it's called no Other Choice.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like this first one fits more than
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the rest quite honestly, first one and the third one.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: That's that's great for you all, Okay, So the first
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: the first stuff that doesn't fit we're gonna talk about
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: is as John had said, no Other Choice, which is
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: a story of here's the thing. Watching the trailer, it
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: kind of like my perception of the who was good
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: and who is bad? And it like switched in the
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: middle of the trailer. So it's about this guy who
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: needs like he needs a job and his family needs
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: to tighten their their her strings until why I use
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: that phrase, I don't know, until they can get some
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: money coming back in. And the beginning of the trailer
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: has the mom being like, we can't use the car,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: we can't do soccer, we can't use our house, and
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this mom is weird.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I think I think what they mean is they're
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: selling their house and moving into a smaller place.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: It read to me like she was just like, Nope,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: we have to live in a box until we can
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: move back into our because utilities are too big.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Well, essentially what happens is the lead character he's laid off.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: He's been working for a company for years and years
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: and years and he gets laid off and he's kind
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: of thrown into turmoil and is trying to find a
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: new job, and it turns out the job market is
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: really competitive. It is a killer killer market out there.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: So he comes up with a clever idea.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Which is to kill the competition. Yes, he's going out
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: with kindness.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: No, he's going to target the other candidates for the
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: job he's interviewing for and take them out with extreme prejudice.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: So this is actually based off a novel. The novel
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: is titled The Acts. It's by Donald E. Westlake, came
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: out in nineteen ninety seven. That novel was actually adapted
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: into a film in France called Well. The English title
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: is The Ax in two thousand and five, so it's
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: not the first time that the movie's been adapted in
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: or the book has been adapt it into a movie.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: And the director of this one is Park Chan wook,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: who is known for movies like Old Boy, which if
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: you haven't seen, okay, first of all, trigger warnings out
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: the wazoo for Old Boy, like all the trigger warnings,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: there's no trigger warning that doesn't apply. Yeah, so I'm
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: really excited about this. I think that Park Chan wook
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: is a really great director of South Korea and this
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: trailer it does look very satirical like it's not. I
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: wouldn't call this like an outright comedy. I described it
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: to friend of the show Shay Lee as imagine the
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: menu but with a meaner streak, and the menu already
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: had a mean streak to it.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I still need to see the menu.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: So good, it's so good.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I need to see that. I need to see weapons.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I need to see spinal tap.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: All of those are good. You've seen Sinners, right, oh yeah, okay,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: all right, so you've seen Centers, which is great, so
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I would I would say weapons, the menu. Both of
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: those are like my you know, in the running for
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: my favorite films of the last several years.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: And then I think for Halloween, we're up to scream.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: For really, which I don't.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we watched because.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I know there's like Screams. I think Screams seven is
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: the next one coming out.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: So I've well, that's the thing, is like, uh, Tony
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: and I, because we don't get many trigger treaters, but
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: we want to be here for them, we watch it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I think I've talked about this on the show before.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: We watched a thematic movie every Halloween, and sometimes it's
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: like hocus Pocus or The Nightmare before Christmas, although I
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: think we watched that at Christmas last time. But but
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: then he was like a long time ago. He tried
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: to show me Scream and it was too scary. I
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: couldn't get past the beginning, which drew barrymore.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I it's intense.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But then you know, I finally was like, I'm
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: gonna do it. I saw it in the theater, and
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: it too in the theater.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: I can scream.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so we watched Scream, and then we watched
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Scream two, and then we watched Scream three. And Scream
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: three is my favorite so far because it is so campy.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: And that's what I like about.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: That's the one that's set on a movie set, right, Yes,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: that's the other reason you like it so much.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I wouldn't have pinpointed. I wouldn't
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: have said, like, oh, I like this because it's set
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: on a movie set. But it is funny, like it's
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: it's Scream makes fun of horror movies, and then this
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: or is referential, and then this makes fun of itself.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: And I appreciated that it was less gory and a
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: little less viscerally violent as well, so I could enjoy
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the story without the factor.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I think. I think the first three are the only
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: ones I've seen. So if you do watch Scream four
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: this year, I think you'll be ahead of me. Oh yeah, finally,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: which is I think I don't remember remember if i've
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think i've seen Scream four. I know I've
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: seen the first three. But yeah, because again Red right
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: hand Man, that that song comes into play big time
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: in the first film and a little bit in the
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: second one, like occasionally they use the bell sound. It's
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: a great effect in that movie. But yeah, need I
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: need to catch up and see the four or five
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: and six. I mean, Jenna Ortega shows up and Jack
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Quaide shows up, and so I need to check those out. No.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, the other choice does look really interesting. It looks good.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: It looks like, like you said, there's a comedy aspect
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: to it, and like some fanciful fantastical stuff in there too.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like the filmmaking looks like it dabbles
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: maybe a little bit in the surreal, maybe to give
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: us an indication of characters like frame of mind or something.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: But the movie, at least according to what I saw
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: on AMC's website, comes out Christmas Day.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The next thing that we have that doesn't fit
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: is The Death of Bunny Munroe, which is a TV series.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Yes, ah, of a dad who is a traveling salesman
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: who's addicted to the sexy stuff and kind of taking
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: his kids along for a ride.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: And that's what the trailer shows us. Matt Smith plays
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: the dad, and it's just so weird to me to have, like,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: even though Scarlett Johansson is a mom and Matt's Matthew Smith,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Matt Smith is a dad. Like, it's weird to see
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: them playing parental characters for some reason because they still
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: both feel very youthful to me.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: And Scarlett Johanson a lot of her I mean, not
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: to minimalize her talent or anything, but she's often cast
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: in roles that are leaning heavily on her sex appeal
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: and so thinking about as she's a mom kind of
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: makes the brain short circuit occasionally.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that's what it is. There's it's actually
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: like I couldn't tell quite from the film, but it's
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: a pretty dark story. It looks like or from the trailer,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: it looks like a pretty dark story.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: So it's based off a novel can you guess who
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: the author is? I'll give you a hint. We've said
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: his name a couple of times in this podcast already.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: He sings a song called Red Right Hand.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Mike John Cena, I always said.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Michael Cina Nick Nick Cave. Nick Cave of Nick Cave
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: and the Bad Seeds wrote a novel in two thousand
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: and nine, The Death of Bunny Monroe. It is a
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: dark story. The story really takes place after Bunny's wife
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: has committed suicide, and so that's kind of what precipitates
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: him taking his son on this road trip and kind
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: of just indulging headlong into a hedonistic kind of approach.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Not that he was from what I understand, not that
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: he was faithful to begin with. But there's also apparently
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: a story element that involves a serial killer on the loose.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I have not read the book, so I can't really
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: comment on it. This is just based off what I
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: read when I was kind of researching this series. Also,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: we should say it comes out November twentieth on Sky
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Atlantic in the UK, but there is no current release
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: date that I have seen for the United States, so
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: it might be a while before it comes stateside.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: It does look like the storytelling is really good, so
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I kind of hope it does. I would be interested
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: in watching it. Yeah, I haven't read the book either.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: My hope because Bunny Monroe is not the wife that died,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: it is the main character. I would kind of hope
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: that the end would resolve in him repairing his father's
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: son relationship, though I doubt it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll see. I having not read any spoilers,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know how it turns out. Uh. I just
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: wanted to make sure I knew a little more about
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: the background without Like I, researching is tricky because you
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: want to you want to understand more, but you don't
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: want to spoil things for yourself, like like our next one,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Death by Lightning. I would hate to spoil the fact
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: that James Garfield is shot and killed by Charles J. Getto.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: That actually, except that's history, that really happened.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: That's history. You like Assassins, right, I do.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Charles Getto in Assassins is my favorite character.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: He is great great music.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. The Ballad of Charles J. Getto is my
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: favorite song from the play, and Getto in general is
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: my favorite character. He is psychotic and delusional, which is
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: not that far off from the real life Charles J. Getto.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: So this series is coming to Netflix on November sixth,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: and it is following the story of President James Garfield
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: who ends up being targeted by the obsession of a
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: man named Charles Jay Getto and Getau just he has
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: dreams of greatness, like you might call it delusions of grandeur, right,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: He just he thinks that he is destined to be
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: a great man, and he pursues this in a few
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: different ways in his life.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: And the.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Comical tragedy of it all is that he's not very intelligent,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: he's not very capable, and he believes himself to be
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: the opposite. So he's constantly failing. But he believes that
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: he's deserving of a place in history, and he wants
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: to be the ambassador to France. And this obsession ultimately
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: leads to a com prontation and the assassination of James Garfield.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Although technically Getoe shoots Garfield, Garfield suffers a wound, and
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: then Getto's argument was really it was the doctors that
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: killed Garfield, because he lingered for a long, long long
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: time after the shooting, and that ultimately it was because
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: the doctors were incompetent that Garfield died. The jury did
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: not see it that way, although Getto certainly had a point,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: but he was ultimately the one who pulled the trigger.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like his goal was to kill him,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: right Yeah.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Just because he didn't succeed in doing it immediately
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: doesn't change much.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. This mini series has a really good cast in
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: it as well. Well. Betty Gilpin plays Missus Garfield, Michael
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Shannon plays President Garfield, Nick Offerman plays Chester A. Arthur.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Matthew McFadden plays Geto, who I just so so perfect
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: because you both love and hate him when.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: You look at him, right yeah yeah.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: And and Bradley Whitford is James Blaine as well, so yeah,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: great cast. Uh And it's this is a I think
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: this is probably one of those moments in American history
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: that a lot of Americans are ignorant of, Like I
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: don't think. I think if you told people, like the
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: average person in America, average American says and did you
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: know that there was a president named Garfield, their response
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: will be you mean the cat?
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I knew, but also, yeah, go
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: watch assassins. I mean also this looks good. I will
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: watch this many.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: No, it does look good. It looks like it's very
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: well done. And it's also based off a book. It's
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Candice Millard's book Destiny of the Republic. So if you
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: are curious about the source material, that's where you can go.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Well, it does by lightning. Lightning is the bullet the
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: name of the gun.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: It's an excellent question because Getto was hanged. Obviously, this
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: was before the electric share, so it's not like it's
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: not like that. And I honestly don't know the answer
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: to your question. It might be the fact that they're
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: calling it death by lightning and referencing the gun. I
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Interesting. And the last thing we have a trailer for
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: that doesn't really fit is a movie called Playdate. And
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: when I started watching this trailer, I was like, ugh,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: is this is one of the characters Man Meat Mountain.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, Man Meat Mountain aka Alan Richson from Reacher. He
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: was one of one of the two man Meat Mountains.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, the main Man Meet Mountain.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, Man Meet Mountain number one in Reacher aka
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Reacher Reacher.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: But so it's the story about a dad with anger
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: problems who takes his kid to the and meets another
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: who he thinks is a dad, and their kids get along,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: and then it turns out that it's kind of like
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: a Central Intelligence that Rock Kevin Hart movie, sort of
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: a story where one of them isn't isn't necessarily the dad,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: but actually like a spy or something, you know, Like
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I because it's Alan Richson and Kevin James, and I
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, but as the trailer went on,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I loved it. And part of the reason I love
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: it is because one of the kids, at least one
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: of the kids and it gets to do some really
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: cool stunt work and I think that's awesome, Like that
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: must have been so much fun for that kid.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: And it looks I mean, I don't know if Alan
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Ritchson was having a ton of fun, but it sure
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: does look like it, like he's being super goofy in
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: this trailer, which is again very reminiscent of Central Intelligence,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Like this feels like it could exist in the Central Intelligence,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: you know, cinematic huniverse.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed Central Intelligence.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks very very silly. There's a great supporting
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: cast as well. It includes Sarah Chalk and I love
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Sarah Chalk, Alan Tudiic and I love Alent Tudick, Stephen
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Root and I love Steven Ruth. Oh my gosh. Yeah,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: all these, all these supporting actors are phenomenal. And it
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: comes to Amazon Prime Video on November twelfth. So I
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: might I do not like Kevin James. Okay, I have
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: not liked Kevin James or his well more specifically, I
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: don't like his projects. I don't know the man, so
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: maybe I'd like him just fine, but the projects I
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: have never been a fan of. Like, I don't think
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: I've seen anything with Kevin James in it where I
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: was like, I want to watch this, but this this
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: is cooled? Okay, well enough, Okay, I had no interest
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: in seeing Hitch, so there's nothing wrong with liking it.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: It's just one of those things where it's like it's
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: never been my jam, you know. Also, he has been
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: in some stuff that I think objectively you could describe
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: as bad. I try very hard in this show not
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: to just declare things good or bad, but like to
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: make it clear that it either appeals to me or doesn't.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: But I think Pixels is just bad.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't watch that one. I didn't hate the
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Ghostbusters all female cast as much as other people. And
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: he was in that?
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Was he in that?
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Or did he was Kevin James in that? I don't know,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah he was?
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Was he apparently? Okay not it's pulling up on his
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: list of things, but it could be wrong. The internet
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: is often wrong.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Oh no, he played a scared New Yorker ah the
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: part he was born to play. So I like that movie,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: but he wasn't much in it, gotcha.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Well that's it for the stuff that doesn't really fit
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: our lineup. Moving on, We're going to John Boy's horror Hutch,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: and this is where I ask my beloved co host
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Ariel did you bother watching either of these trailers?
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I don't believe.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: So it's fine. So both of these are foreign language movies,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: and I actually think that's really cool, Like I'm so
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: used to see. I feel like a lot of American
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: horror movies, with the exceptions of things like sinners or
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: weapons that are clearly standouts, but a lot of American
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: horror movies are so generic and so bland. Like maybe
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: the monster or character design is interesting, and maybe the
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: theme is a little interesting, but they almost always fall
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: short for me, with the exceptions of things like weapons
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: or sinners, which are clearly standouts. I mean, those are
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: just great movies. So seeing stuff like this is really
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: exciting to me because it's from other cultures where one
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: that cultural touchstones that inform their horror are different, and
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: two they are still doing some really amazing work with
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: like practical effects. That brings us to the first of
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: the two that I want to talk about, Lily's Ritual.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: So this is a Spanish horror movie. It's actually from
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Spain that will premiere at Grimfest, which is a movie
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: festival in the UK, and that happens this weekend. The
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: New Zealand company Black Mendala has picked up the international
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: sales rights to this film, so hopefully we will see
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: it get a wider release. No word on that yet,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: but apparently ninety percent of the special effects in this
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: horror film are practical effects, and you just don't see
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: that in most American films these days. Everything is digital.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: So to see like practical effects for horror, I love it.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: This trailer, by the way, is brutal, so be warned
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: before watching the trailer for Lily's Ritual. It doesn't linger
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: on a lot of the gore, but there's a lot
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: of gore in this trailer. I'll just say there's one
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: of my major ix in this trailer, which is seeing
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: someone's fingernail being pulled off their finger. Oh yeah, and
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: it's like close up, it is brutal, and that's one
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: of the few things that triggers me typically, And when
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: I saw that, I was like, Oh, I'm gonna have
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: to see this in the theater because this is it's
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: just so well done. I was so impressed that I
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: was so impressed that I forgot to be grossed out anyway.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: The story follows a group of four young women who
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: are going to like a rental house, like almost like
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: an Airbnb kind of thing. It doesn't look like a
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: rundown scary house, but they're going there to do like
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: a Wiccan ritual. Although it turns out that apparently this
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: ritual actually has a sacrifice element for one of the
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: four women, and she doesn't know that going into it,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: and that's where the horror comes in and she tries
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: to escape while all these supernatural things are going on.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: It looks super intense and I cannot wait. I really
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: hope it gets international distribution. The other one is a
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: film called The Elixer. This one's actually coming to Netflix
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: on October twenty third. This one's from Indonesia and it's
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: a zombie outbreak movie. Now you might feel like I do,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: that zombie films kind of have played out, like there's
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: just so many. We were flooded by zombie for so
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: long that it's kind of an exhausted genre. But this
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: looks still pretty interesting to me. The basic idea is
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: there's a family. One of the members of the family
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: is an aging man whose vanity gets the better of
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: him and he decides to create, you know, take a
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: potion made from traditional medicine to try and restore his youth.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: But it turns out into a flesh eating zombie. And
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: then you get lots of zombie action. They are fast zombies,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: not your slow moving George Romero's style zombies. They are
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: absolutely beastial. Their teeth chatter, they have, their eyes are
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: all glazed over. There's a scene where there's just the
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: upper half of a zombie walking on its hands as
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: fast as people can run that I was just like, man,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: this looks amazing, So I will be watching this. It's
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: like I said, Netflix, October twenty third. So if you're
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: a zombie fan and you don't mind the fact that
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: you're going to be reading subtitles, I would check this out.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: I'm planning on doing it when it comes out.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: I might be able to I like, I like oddly,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: even though I don't like cannibalism, I can do some
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: zombie stuff. There is some zombie stuff I like. Reading
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: sometime might make it easier because that does sound really
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: interesting it.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: If I were to give it, like, if I were
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: to compare it to another kind of zombie movie, like
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: as far as Vibes go, I would say, like, imagine
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: twenty eight days later, except that you're able to watch
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: it from the moment the zombie outbreak happened, So it
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: obviously wouldn't be twenty eight days later. It would be
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: day zero, right, But it feels like that kind of
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: intensity and those sorts of zombies so interesting. Yeah, I'm
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: very much looking forward to it interesting.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: I feel like twenty eight days later, i'd I don't
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: know if it holds up as well as like, I
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: don't know if I'd like it as much now as
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I did back then.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't. I don't think I've watched it since
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: it came out, but I really liked it when it
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: came out. Part of the problem again is that since
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: twenty eight days later it came out, we've had so
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: many different zombie properties, right, and it's just like again,
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: like after a while, you know, Trained to Busan was great, obviously,
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Sean of the Dead was great. Early the like maybe
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: first season of Walking Dead was pretty compelling television for me,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: and then after that it just felt like misery, so
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: I stopped watching. But you know, we've had so much
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: it's hard to kind of go back and revisit things
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: that were early influences for what would follow.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're onto the actual things.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as per usual, we start getting up to the
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: hour mark and then we're ready to talk about our lineup.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: And I'm not unenthused. I'm a little off today. I
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: don't know if y'all can tell. I had some medical
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: stuff this morning. But I am excited to talk about
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff, even though it didn't just
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: sound like it.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The first is a series that's coming to Apple
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: TV plus a nine episode season that launches November seventh.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: It's called Plura Bus and this one's pretty high concept
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: and also mysterious.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it doesn't give you a whole lot in
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: the trailer, but if you read the logline about it, it's, uh,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: there's a woman who is miserable and she has to
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: save the world from being happy. So my like, it
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: seems like maybe the world is artificially happy or overly
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: happy or something.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Apparently there's a virus that has affected everyone in
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: the world with the possible exception of this one woman.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Maybe there are others out there, but this one woman
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: is the one that the series focuses on, and the
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: virus makes people content and optimistic, but artificially so.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And the one woman is played by Riha Sehorn.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: She was in Better Call Saul. She's an amazing, amazing actress,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: so I kind of want to watch it for her alone.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And this comes from Vince Gilligan, who was the
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: creator for Breaking Bad, so it's his next project. So
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: it's kind of a high concept, science fiction based sort
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: of story. I don't know how much science fiction it's
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: going to get into, but like this, it reminds me.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: I think it's the video games title was We Happy Few,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: which is a reference to a speech from King Henry
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: the Fifth. But anyway, we Happy Few was a game
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: in which you're in a dystopic UK where everyone has
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: to take a medication called Joy, which makes them artificially happy,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: and then you decide to not take the medication and
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: you start to see the world for what it really
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: is as opposed to what everyone perceives it to be.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: It was a game that had a lot of potential,
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: and I think a lot of people felt that it
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: ultimately failed to live up to that. So maybe the
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: series will succeed in ways that that video game failed.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: It's not It's not apples to apples anyway. It's not
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: like these are both the exact same idea. It just
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: reminded me of that.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm so gonna watch it. I'm so looking
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: forward to it. I mean, I've liked everything of Vince
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Gillians that I have watched. Now. I didn't watch much
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: of The X Files, but.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: I watched all of Breaking Bad, and I think that
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: that is possibly possibly the best TV show I've seen
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: from beginning to end. As far as like a satisfying conclusion,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: it was crazy. It was a it was a crazy conclusion. Yeah,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: but I mean, it made sense, like it ended the
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: way it needed to. Better Call Saul is one that
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: I need to watch. I have not watched that one,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: and I've heard that it's even better than Breaking Bad.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: I just haven't watched it.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed, like by the end, I absolutely loved
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Better Call Saul. It was a little slow for me
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: at the beginning, so like I started to watch it
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: and I kept falling off because I'd like, watch an
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: episode and then it was slow enough that it wasn't like, oh,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I have to see what happens next, right, because it's
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: also living in kind of this world where you know,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: various points of Saul's life. Yeah, anyhow because of Breaking.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Bad, right, because this is taking place before the events
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: of Breaking Bad for the most part, there's some book
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: and stuff where there's stuff that's happened after the events
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: of Breaking Bad.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: But it was very well done. I liked el Camino too,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I am, and I'm so excited to see this step
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: into sci fi. I'm so excited for the show and
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't know about it before yesterday.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Next up we get something that feels like it's
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: a distant cousin of minority report to me. It's a
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: film called Mercy starring Chris Pratt and Rebecca Ferguson. Chris
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Pratt is playing a law enforcement officer who has been
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: brought up on charges of murder, suspected of murdering his wife.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: The judge, jury, and executioner is Judge Maddox, an AI
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: judge played by Rebecca Ferguson as part of an overall
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: law enforcement program called Mercy. So the idea is that
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: the United States apparently has handed over the justice system
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: in large part to artificial intelligence, the idea being that
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: AI can't be biased or easily misled, and so Chris
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Pratt's character is given the task of proving his innocence
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: within ninety minutes or else he will be executed for
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: the crime of murdering his wife.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I do very much appreciate that they did not use
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: an actual AI actor for the judge. That they used
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: a real actor.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, Rebecca Ferguson is definitely an
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: actual person.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like I liked Minority Report, it doesn't feel like
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: it's breaking any new ground, but it could be fine.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: I really like some I really loved night Watch, which
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: is what I know. This The director timor Bechambetov from
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever watched night Watch.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: I have not.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: It's it's a foreign film, but it's also I believe
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: that's what he did. Yeah, he did, but it's kind
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: of like it's a fantasy horror. Then there's a night
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Watch in the day Watch, and it's got like vague
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: matrixy vibes because it's they kind of fight each other,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: and there's different like fantastical creatures and monsters in the
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: night Watch and the day Watch, and it's a little
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: bit of a noir. It's a little cheesy, but I
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: enjoyed it very much. But then he also did War
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: of the Worlds with was it ice Cube iced team?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Oh? That one, the one where it's all like computer
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: and phone cameras. Yeah, that one got terrible reviews.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: It did, it did. But I mean he's also worked,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: like I said, on stuff that I have liked. So
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Well, it looks, it looks intriguing. It comes out January
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: twenty third. Obviously, there are differences between this and Minority Report.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: And Minority Report. It's not AI. It's like psychics who
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: are able to detect if someone's going to commit a crime.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: In this case, it's AI that's adjuring whether or not
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: someone has committed a crime and then passing sentence. There
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: does seem to be the implication in this trailer. Implication
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: is two weak a word. There seems to be a
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: plot element in this where Chris Pratt's character is accusing
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: the AI judge of being biased against him for some reason,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: so that he's arguing that it's impossible for him to
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: prove his innocence because the AI judge has already made
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: up its mind and that whatever he says won't matter.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, I mean, yeah, well, based upon
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: what we've seen with AI over the last couple of years,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: I think this is definitely kind of playing into a
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: lot of criticisms people have about AI in general, right, like,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: I think, legitimate criticisms. I don't know if the film
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: handles it well, but I do feel like it's it's
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: trading on some of that stuff, some of the arguments
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: we've seen against Generative AI, most of which by the way,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: I agree with. I don't. I'm not you know, we're
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: not big fans of Generative AI.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The next trailer we've got is the final trailer
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: for Predator bad Lands. Yep, I I am like seventy
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: five percent interested in this movie.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: I am ninety percent not interested in this movie.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm curious to hear what you have. This
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: is not judgment on you. I'm curious, honestly, what is
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: it about this that interests you? I?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Well, I honestly, it's the it's the it's el Fanning.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair? Uh? Is that?
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah? El Fanning, Ellie Fanning, el Fanning. Hell because she
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: plays the way land U Twani synth synth half half of.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: One Yea like the top half. They decide not to
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: do one where it's just the butt and legs of
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: a scent.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: That would be hilarious, it would be that's somewhere in
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: the movie.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: I think. I think if they ever make a blank
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: movie parody of Predator, they have to do that.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: I've heard absolutely amazing things from everybody I know who
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: has watched Pray, which was one of the newer Predator movies.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I kind of like the new direction they're taking with
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: it with the the property but the thing, and it
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: looks like it's gonna be fun. It looks like it's
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: gonna be a little actiony and a little scary. But
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: the thing I don't like or the CGI monsters. Yeah,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: that looks very CGI to me.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: That's a big contributor to why I'm not as interested.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: But the other part that and again this is not
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: judging anyone who's excited about this film. I think that's
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: awesome if you are.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: But okay, you can judge me.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: No, not at all. I don't judge anyone for this.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: It's just for me. The thing that appeals to me
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: about the Predator movies is not knowing a whole bunch
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: about the Predator, Like it's a mysterious monster, and you're
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: focusing on the humans. The human characters are the protagonists,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: and that's what's interesting is them trying to survive. Again,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: it's this seemingly unstoppable killing machine. And the war you
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: learn about the unstoppable killing machine, the less interesting it
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: is to me. And so for this movie like to
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: use this unstoppable killing machine as the protagonist, I'm not
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: really interested. It doesn't appeal to me. I would much
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: rather see a human story and keep the Predators as
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: largely unseen monsters. That's what makes them so menacing and threatening,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: So it's really the fundamental story that doesn't appeal to me. Again,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's good or bad. I'm just saying like,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: for me personally, I don't find the appeal. The movie
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: does come out in November seventh, so for those who
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: are interested, it won't be long before it's here. So
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: maybe I'll be totally off base. Maybe all the reviews
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: will be incredibly glowing. It's just not what I look
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: for in a Predator movie.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we also got another trailer for Dragon King, which
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: is the kick started successfully kickstarted, very successful project that
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: is kind of a spin off of the Dragon Prints,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: along with creators from Avatar and Legit of Korra and
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Liam O'Brien from a critical role. The new trailer, I
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: don't know. It didn't bring me in as much as
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: the first trailer like the Kickstarter trailer did, but that
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: might be because I, yeah, I don't I hadn't seen
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: the dragon Prints, so I don't really know any of
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: that lore.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: That's exactly my same reaction was. I was like, I
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: don't know who these are or why I should care,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: or like what's going on. But if you are a
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: fan of the Dragon Prince, you should be happy that
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: that Kickstarter funded super well. Like its goal was two
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and when I last looked,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: it was at over eight hundred and seventy thousand dollars,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: so almost four times what they're definitely more than three
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: times and almost four times what they were looking for.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: So that's great. That's very encouraging for the artists and
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: everybody the creators there. But yeah, I don't know what's happening,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: so I don't know what to care about. So I
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: thought the animation was well done, and I like the
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: character design, especially like the the character that shows up.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: She's got like a prosthetic leg that looked super cool.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: I like the character design, but I didn't know. I
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: was like, I don't know what's happening. Yeah, I don't
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: even know where this is.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Set along the lines of I don't even know what's happening.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: We also got a trailer for The Witcher season four.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the first season that has Liam Hemsworth
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: as Geralt, when previously Henry Cavell had played that role.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: Cavill famously left the series partly because he was at
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: the time hoping to play Superman again, although that didn't
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: work out, but also because he, from what everyone has
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: said so allegedly, he had issues with the show taking
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: greater departures from the source material, and that was he
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: was having a real personal issue with that. He did
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: not like it, and from what I understand, fan reaction
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: to this trailer has largely been negative. That doesn't mean
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: that it's going to be a mainstream failure, but there
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: are sub sections of the Witcher fandom who have been
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: really critical of this trailer, largely saying that it it
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: departs too much from the source material.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: As someone who is not a like Witcher video game
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: or book fan, I don't care. Honestly, if it departed
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: from the source material, it might be a little bit
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: easier to understand there's so much going on.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I also well, I've never I've played the
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Witcher three, but I never got past the beginning because
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: it was one of those games that was just so
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: big that I felt like, no matter what I did,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: I wasn't even going to make a dent, and it
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: just kind of discouraged me. It's kind of like if
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: you were to get into Skyrim without ever having played
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: any other video game ever, you'd be like, no, this
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: is too much. Give me pac man, let me work
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: up to it. So, yeah, I've never read the books
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: and I haven't watched any of the series, so I
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: have no skin in this game. Like I have not
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: watched anything or read anything in this So I will
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: say as a nice change of pace, at least some
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: of the discourse I've seen online is people reminding each other, Hey,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: this isn't Liam Hemsworth's fault. Like he's an actor who
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: has been hired to do a role and he's doing
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: the best he can with the material he's given. So
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: don't heap any you know, hate his way. Save that
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: for the producers, Joe Runners.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Witcher and The Wheel of Time both hit
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: me the same way, which is there's there's too much
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: for me to follow, which means there's too much for
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: me to care. Yeah, and I've watched all three seasons
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: of The Witcher.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: So far, honestly, honestly, like it's how I feel. Yeah,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: you've you've hit the nail on the head, Like it's
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: even how I feel about things like Rings of Power.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: Like I had no desire to watch it because I
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: was like, no, the stories that I care about from
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: Tolkien are the ones that have already been told. One
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: was told pretty well and the other one was terrible.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: I mean there were I only watched the first season
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: of Rings of Power again for similar reasons. Some of
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: the characters I did really enjoy in that series, though.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just overall. Yeah, it had a hard time grabbing me,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: which is a shame. I wanted to like all of
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: I wanted. I want to like all of those things.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: So it's a little sad to me, but I really.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Wanted Season four, I want to say, comes out October thirtieth. Okay, sorry,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: but you wanted to like you wanted to like Game of.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Thrones, Yeah, and I didn't.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Really, I can't blame you. I liked it when I
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: was reading it up to a point, and then I
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: was starting to suspect that it was the fantasy version
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: of The Walking Dead and getting into the misery literature field.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: And the more I heard about the series, the more
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: I was convinced I was right.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: You were right. So when you said that we were
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: getting another Game of Thrones spin off, I was not excited. Yeah,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: but then I watched the trailer, which is absolutely charming.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's for a series that's called a Night
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: of the Seven Kingdoms. It is based off some novellas
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: that George R. Martin has written called The Tales of
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: Dunk and Egg. Dunk in this case is also known
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: as Duncan the Tall. He's a hedge knight and he
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: takes on a squire named Egg, who's actually prints Eggon Targerian,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: and together they have adventures. And it definitely looks less
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: grim than Game of Thrones. It doesn't look nearly as
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: gritty or grim as that series was. It's still it's
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: not touchy feely, but it doesn't feel like, oh, this
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: is a series where someone's gonna get all their fingers
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: lopped off and then they're gonna laugh and drink alcohol.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's Yeah, it just looks delightful. It's a big,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: old kind knight and a kid who pair up and
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: and I mean kid. This the kid who plays Egg,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: I guess is eleven years old. Dexter soul ansel I
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: just I know that there's gonna be dark stuff in there,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: but I don't I want to like it very much.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm encouraged that it doesn't look nearly as super
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: dark and grim as Game of Thrones dead like Game
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: of Thrones. Just it felt like every chapter Martin was
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: looking for a way to go harder than he did
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: in the last chapter. And it also felt like it
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: was a story where anyone who was decent or had
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: decency in them was punished for it. And I get it,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: like the Game of Thrones is meant to be a
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: brutal struggle, but it just was so discouraging and depressing
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: to me. But this one looks like it's got a
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: little bit more of an entertaining value to it for
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: me personally. Comes out January eighteenth on HBO.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we also got a trailer for a cartoon called
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Primal Season three. I added this in because I'm like,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: maybe there are people who listen to the show who
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: like this. I don't know much about Primal.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: It's from a creator named Gendy Tartakowski, and the first
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: two seasons follow I mean the third season two, but
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: the first two seasons follow a Neanderthal named Spear. The
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: first season I don't think has any dialogue in it
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: at all, oh interesting, and the second one has minimal
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: dialogue but Spear. It's set in a anachronistic primeval world
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: where Neanderthals and dinosaurs coexist, and there's also like metallurgy,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: so like there's a lot of stuff that just doesn't
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: occupy the same actual historical space that's going on in
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: this series. It's got elements of science fiction and fantasy
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: and horror in it. I think in the first two seasons,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: Spear in up befriending a tarannosaurce Rex, and they go
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: on adventures together. But in season three, h Spears Dead
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: Baby Spears Dead Spears a zombie and appears to be
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: really mad about it and is fighting his way potentially
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: to not be a zombie anymore.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Watching the watching the trailer for it, it does sound
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: when you described it, it sounds interesting like I like
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: the idea of a cartoon with little to no dialogue.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: It feels like it feels like something that would have
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: come out of MTV between the eighties and the two thousands.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: Well, it also reminds me, do you remember Samurai Jack?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, because Samurai I enjoyed what I watched.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Samurai Jack was really minimalist with its dialogue
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: as well, very very artistically driven. This also looks like that,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: except from a very kind of brutal and violent standpoint.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's the trailer has lots and lots of
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: violence in it. It's mostly undead Neanderthal on skeleton violence
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: or on like zombie dinosaur violence. It comes out in
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: January twenty twenty six on Adult Swim. So yeah, I
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: have also not seen the first two seasons. Everything I
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: know about this is just based on me reading up
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: on it. But it does sound very interesting. I didn't
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: even know this was a thing either until you brought
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: it to the lineup.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I might check it out now, because yeah, I
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: didn't know it was a thing. I guess I missed
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: the first two seasons. Yeah, it's been a long it's
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: there's been a big break between the first two seasons.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: In this one.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: We also got a trailer this week for the Mighty nine.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the this is the critical Role campaign
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: that was the next big story after vax Machina, which
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: was the first big campaign. So this one's a different
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: of heroes known as the mighty nine an e I N.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: Not not nine as in the number.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, although there's plenty of jokes about that in the
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: in campaign too. I I have been looking forward to this.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: I was late to critical role, mainly because I didn't
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: have the time for it. But I have. I've been
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: watching the legend of Vox Macna. I have watched most
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: of the actual play of The Mighty nine, you know,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: well after the fact, and I've been listening to Hell's
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Hell's Bells, Hell's Bells, and mighty nine is by far
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: my favorite. It's I don't know how to do. I mean,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: it's it's D and D. You know, there's interesting magic.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: Matt Mercer, the d M for it, came up with
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: a new kind of magic for it, dounomancy, which is
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: like a time magic, which is pretty cool.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: And it's set in his original fantasy universe. Yeah. Right,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: I think that's what it's called.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say, I think just inherently the mighty nine,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: not that Vox Macna is at all kid friendly. The
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Mighty nine is less.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: So it does have my favorite character in it of
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: all time, Jester. Yes, how did you know?
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Because she's amazing. Jester is played by Laura Bailey, and
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: she's a little blue teefling who is a troublemaker.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: As a vaguely Eastern European accent.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, and she likes to draw inappropriate things on other things.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: I think my favorite are her when she's sending which
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: is why she's sending a mental telepathy messages to other people,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: but there's a there's a word count limit as to
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: how long the messages can be twenty five words, I think,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: and Laura Bailey like to ramble so much that there's
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: an ongoing joke in that season of Critical Role where
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: she either goes too long and her message gets cut
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: off so she doesn't get to send the whole thing,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: or she's determined to hit exactly twenty five words and
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: she'll just fill up the rest of a message with
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: nonsense in order to do it.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's done stuff like are you pooping?
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Uh da da da da dadda dada, donuts donuts yeah yeah.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: This it's my favorite of the Critical Role campaign so far.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: I haven't started. I've watched like the first fifteen minutes
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: of campaign four, which just started with Brenda Lee Mulligan.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely delightful. I can't wait to watch it.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited because along with the trailer, they released
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: a four minute video that Jonathan told me about where
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: they kind of explained about the series and how they're
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: going to tell the story in a different order from
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: the way they play, and then they talked about the
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: voice actors and it all seems very cool.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Some of the celebrity guests that they have playing
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: supporting roles this season include Lucy Lou, ali E Cravallo,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: Ming naw Win, Anika Noni Rose. Which means we have
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: three Disney Princesses represented in this season.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, I know that one of them is Muana, one
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: is Mulan.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: One is Tiana. Okay, Tiana from Princess and the Frog. Uh.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: There's also Raoul Kohlei, who I know from his days
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: of interacting with a group called fun House Funhouse. But
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: he also has been on like that that zombie series
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: that was on the CW years ago, and he was
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: in a lot of Mike Flanagan's stuff, like the Aye
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: Zombie that was the one, And he was also in
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: a bunch of Mike Flanagan stuff like the uh what
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: was the one Midnight Mass and the Edgar Allen Poe
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: one which House of ushers in both of those. Jonathan Frakes, Yeah,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Frakes is also in it. Obviously, Jonathan Frakes was
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: Will Richer in Star Trek The Next Generation. Alan Cumming
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: an amazing actor, isn't it? Also country music singer Tim McGraw,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: isn't it?
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: You know? I mean, do what you want to do.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: Tim McGraw's been doing acting. He's been in The Yellowstone
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: in eighteen eighty three.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, no, no, no shade on Tim McGraw.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: It's just when you see that name pop up, you're like, huh,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: one of these things is not like the other.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm interested to see who he's playing. I don't
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: know if I quite picked it out.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: I think it was some sort of barred character because
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: I've seen a breakdown of what at least some of
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: these people are playing that some of the roles have
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: not been revealed, but in other cases they were. But
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: because I'm a casual fan and mostly I've experienced the
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: Mighty nine through like YouTube shorts where it's or compilations.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: Usually it's like a compilation as because I have not
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: watched a full episode ever of critical role, no matter
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: which season you're talking about, I've watched my compilations and
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: things like that. You know, my knowledge of all the
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: different characters is pretty thin. Like, I know, I know
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: there's a character called the Gentleman, for example, but I
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't have enough context to know anything
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: about that character. However, I will say like, I will
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: probably try and catch this. I wasn't. I didn't get
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: into Voxmachina. I tried to. It just wasn't for me.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: But I'm hopeful that The Mighty nine will be more
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: my speed. And it comes out on November nineteenth on
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: Amazon Prime.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, gra plays Vandrin. Okay, I know who that is.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: And Tiana plays Jester's mom, which I think is brilliant.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: She'll be brilliant.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wasn't that a big Oh No, that was not
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: a big reveal. It was I think. I think that
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: was Vox macanel where there was a big mom reveal
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: and that was for Marisia's character.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, Okay, I was like, oh no, did
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: I give a spoiler? I don't know for sure, but
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: I think you're right.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: No, No, no, you didn't. You didn't. I again, because I've
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: experienced these things for compilations, it can also be hard
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: for me to tell when I'm watching something from the
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: Vox Machina era, or from the mighty nine era, and
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not quick to pick up on it.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: It is interesting people liked the mighty nine so much
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: that they're still doing stuff. So they just had that
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: Ford and Jester wedding pop up in New York, so
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: they're they're doing one shot of four in Jester's wedding.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: I really kind of like they've been doing like a
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: time quangle sort of a thing on their tour. It
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: seems like similar similar to what Dimension twenty did, where
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: like they all pick characters from any of the three
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: campaigns they've been in and they all get into a situation.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, those which is pretty fun.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, as long as it's always Jester, I'm happy.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The the Critical Role people will actually be at
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: Mombo Con this year and also be performing in Atlanta.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: At that time, I did not get tickets, bummer, but
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: I'm tempted. If there are any left, I'm still tempted.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: It was just like figuring out if I can.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: I would love to chat with them because I'm such
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: a big fan of their work outside of Critical Role. Like,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: I like the Critical Role stuff I've seen, but like
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: I said, I've never watched a campaign or an episode,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: let alone a campaign all the way through. So for me,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: it's more like their voice acting work in various other
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: media that I am a huge fan of. So but
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: I wish them all the success in the world. I
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: love that a home game evolved to this point and
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: is its own phenomenon that to me is just super cool.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: It really is. Okay, we have two more things we
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: want to talk about. The first is that there was
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: a movie a few years ago called ParaNorman that is
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: getting a a.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: Brush up chiny yeahma remastered re release. Yeah, that's a yeah.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: ParaNorman originally came out in twenty twelve. It's coming out
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: just for October twenty fifth through twenty eighth here in
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: the States, where it's a remastered three D version of
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: the original movie. Plus there's going to be a new
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: short film titled Para Norman The Thrifting, so kind of
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: like a you know, a continuation or a spin off
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: of the main story. If you're not familiar with ParaNorman.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: It's about a kid named Norman who is able to
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: see and talk with ghosts, and he goes on kind
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: of an adventure to try and bring an ancient curse
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: to an end in his little sleepy town, and you know,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: everyone thinks he's weird because of the whole ghost thing,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: Like he's kind of judged by ghosts and humans alike,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: and so it's all about him trying to navigate that well,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: bringing this curse to an end. Cute movie. And the
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: trailer for the Uh, I mean, it's just a really
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: short trailer, but then I think it's a very short film.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: But the short trailer for ParaNorman and The Thrifting is
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: also super cute.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks huge.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: I've never seen the original, but it looks darling. I
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: like the art style a lot.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: I tell you, I mix it up all the time.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: When someone mentions ParaNorman, I mix it up with franken Weeney.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: I could totally see that. There's one other one that
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: I mix it up with, and I can't remember what
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: it is. It's not Jimmy Neutron, but it might as
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: well be.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: I Meet the Robertsons with a bowler hat guy.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: And the t Rex.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: That's the best part of that movie that been in
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: that the t Rex, the t Rex and the bowler hat.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: That's the best part of the movie. And that's the
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: only part you really need to watch, and you can
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: skip the rest of it, the.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: Only part I remember. And lastly, we got a trailer
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: for a Roald Dahl's story called The Twits.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So this is a loose adaptation of Roade Doll's
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: book The Twits. I think it takes a lot of
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: liberties and a lot of departures from the original novel.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: Road Dahl, of course, is the author who also did
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: stuff like Matilda and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: lots of other story James and the Giant Peach, that
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: kind of thing. So The Twits is about two terrible people,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: Mister and Missus Twit, who run a terrible circus. I
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: think in this one it's an amusement park and are
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: just generally making everything around them terrible. And in this movie,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: two young children are set to try and rid the
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: town of the Terrible Twits. And that's kind of like
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: the basic high level premise. It comes out on October
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: seventeenth on Netflix. Why'd you think of the trailer?
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: It's the kind of humor that I don't enjoy, but
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: I know kids would.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched and I thought, I know it's I know,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: I recognized the beats, but it's not really for me either,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: like the same sort of reaction. I didn't think it
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: was bad, but I don't even know if I would
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: have liked this when I was a kid, But it's
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: so hard to say because I'm old now, so who knows.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think I would have liked this if I
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: was a kid, but just not my kind of humor.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: But there there was one bit that I almost laughed at,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: so that's something.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ariel almost laughed at it. There's your there's your
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: pull quote.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: I almost almost laughed at the Diorama joke.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which I think if you hear the Diorama joke,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: your brain is probably already going to what that joke is.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, But I didn't laugh. That's the thing, like,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't Yeah, could up, but could up, but didn't. Uh.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: And that's.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: I guess that's a moral in life. No, not at all.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not really, No, I don't know.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: I've lost my train of thought.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I guess what we could say is
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: that we've come to the end of our episode, because
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: that was the last bit in our lineup. It was
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: funny because like again, this was one of those weeks
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: where it was it was getting hard to find stuff
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: that could fit into the lineup at all, Like my
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: Horror Hutch only has two films in it. But then
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: we're almost at Halloween, so all the spooky trailers and
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: stuff have already come out, like over the last two months.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: So no big surprise.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I thought it was going to be
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: a short episode too, and it really wasn't, although some
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: of that was just me losing my mind.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: Well, and we talked. We talked a lot about music
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: and other stuff and Michael Sheen, that's true. Yeah, we
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: did kind of go We did turn it into a
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: fan cast for a while.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So thank you for listening. If you've made
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: it through to the end, you know, if you want
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: to reach out to us, we'd love to hear from you. Jonathan.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: How how can people reach out?
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: If you're Michael Sheen, just let Ariel know and I'll
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: talk to you right well. And if you're not Michael Sheen,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: good luck.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: If you're not Michael Sheen, you can still reach out
• 1:31:11
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• 1:31:13
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