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91. [Mississippi] Stacie Pannell · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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Hey, we're one. I'm welcome to bless Sumus in the True Rum podcast.
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I'm Carre here with Stu. Saystu. Hey, all right, so
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we're going to Mississippi this week. Um, Stu, do you have or
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do we have anything we want to talk about? I know I want to
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talk about Vanderpop Rolls, but I won't. No, you cannot. Although
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the reunion was this week part one, Stu. Anyways, but I will
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Lexi. All right, well, we think you're very active on the social
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media's as well. Oh okay, thank you Emily, Sandy. It's not
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that I don't know your names. It's just that I am trying to remember
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what he just said because I don't listen to him as you know. I
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literally his voice comes on and I'm like, I don't feel like this is
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gonna help me in life, so I'm just going to tune it out.
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That's why we're in two separate houses right now recording this. Yeah, so
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goal. Yes, anyways, we appreciate you guys, and yeah, so
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yeah, go go check out the patron Probably this summer we'll probably take a
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little break from the podcast because we need a little vacation as well. And
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during that time, I think we'll do last time. We told somebody that
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it was two and a half. I know, but we've been doing really
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good Stu. We've had a really good track record since January. We've been
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every week. I mean, that's really good. So during the summer,
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we're probably going to take a slight break and we'll probably just put some Patreon
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episodes out. We'll not put the regular episodes out, and then in the
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fall we'll pick back up. But it's not right now. We're I don't
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know when it's going to happen. We won't stop completely. It's just that
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we might need a little bit of break and everything. No, Stewart,
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shut up, Oh my god. Anyways, all right, so with that,
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let's go ahead and get into Let's go ahead and get rid of the
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dog, and then we'll get into this week's episode. Out of Mississippi.
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Stacy Diane Panell was born September fifth, nineteen sixty seven, to Wiki and
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Judy in Mississippi. Stud Wiki's dad's name wi c Ki. Stacy was the
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oldest of three, a sister who was three years younger than her name Kim,
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and a brother who was ten years younger named Bradley. Stacy was described
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as fun to be around. She made friends very easily, and she just
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loved life. She was tenderhearted and always wanted to help those less fortunate,
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which is completely unlike me. No, I'm kidding. Kind of Their family
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spent the summer's camping and being at the lake. They're very outdoorsy, stude,
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super outdoorsy family. No, you're not. What's outdoorsy about you?
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I go outside so I can go to work walk. You walk from out,
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it's from inside of our home to your vehicle and get in that vehicle
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and then walk from a parking lot into a store and that's your outdoor time.
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Yeah, okay, yeah, that's the equivalent of my outdoor time as
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well. So Stacy's favorite song was Summer of sixty nine by Brian Adams.
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Are you familiar, Stu, I'm familiar with it. It was number one.
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I don't know if it was number one, but it was the radio,
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okay, so well, yeah, I'm sure it was number one.
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At some point. Stacy attended Ripley High School in Ripley, Mississippi, which
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is in the northern part of the state, almost to Tennessee. Now,
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while in high school, Stacy was passionate about rifle drill team and I had
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to look up rifle drill team. But it's very similar. It is.
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It's a rifle, but I don't think they were real rifles like you do
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in because Stu. Stu was in the Marine Corps and he did the rifle
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drill team. I don't know, No, No, I saw you do
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something similar to what I looked up and Stacy was doing. Okay, well,
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you had a rifle and you did some things. No, we carried
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it. We did inspections, we didn't flip it and do all kinds of
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other stuff. What did you do in the at the Marine Corps ball though,
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right? Drill team? I can't even talk to you. Okay,
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it wasn't rifle drill team, but stud I was on the sword detailed past.
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We are married and we have been together a long time. I forget
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things. Was it a sword? I thought it was a rifle? No
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rifles? Okay, Anyways, Stacy hates me right now. I'm gonna need
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some Patreon money to pay for my divorce attorney. No, it's not that,
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it's just I don't know where to go with this. I don't know
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what to say. It was the sword at the at the Marine Corps ball,
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I'm seriously asking it was a sword? Yes? Oh okay, I
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thought you were doing it with a rifle. Thinking back, okay, so
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Stu was on the soord details. So rifle drill team was not a marine
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Well there is. There is a silent drill team in the Marine Corps.
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Okay, Well, then stop acting like I'm stupid. You just weren't on
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it. It's a it's a whole different unit somewhere else. Okay, well
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I'm not worried about that unit. All I've been worried about is your unit.
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Anyway. Yeah, so anyway, so she was on the rifle drill
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team and I did look this up. It was actual. It was like
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drill team but with rifles. But they weren't real rifles. They were just
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made up of it. I don't think they were made out of wood.
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They weren't made out of medal, but they weren't actual rifles you could shoot.
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So this love of drill team would continue with her to college, where
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she was a member of the Tiger Marching Band at Northeast Mississippi Junior College in
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Boonville, Mississippi. As a mouthful. Yes, she was able to receive
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an academic scholarship to a ten school after graduate, waiting fourth in her class
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of a hundred in high school. Now, during high school, Stacy dated
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Ben Cox and they even stopped shaking, and they even became engaged. Her
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senior year. However, Stacy would break it off with him prior to starting
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college. She wanted the freedom to see, you know, where life took
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her. She didn't want to be tied down so young. I mean,
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she was going to Boonville, Mississippi. I mean, that's gotta be a
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lot of life to live in Booneville. I'm making fun of this, as
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I grew up in a very small town, so it's not like I was
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heading off to the big city whenever I graduated high school either. You know,
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we just make fun of the things we knows do. That's how life
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works. So anyway, so she wanted this freedom to see where life took
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her. Now, while Stacy was excited about this new chapter of her life,
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she was not quite ready to move from her home. See. Stacy's
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father, Wicki, was battling brain cancer and she knew her time with him
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was limited. So she really wanted to commute to school and still live at
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home because you know, she didn't know how long you would have. However,
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being part of the band and being a band member, it was required
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that she had to live on campus, which I know they have those kind
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of rules and stuff that it's all about the school spirit and all the things
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and being available. Rab already kick him in the knee, you know.
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So Stacy moved into Murphy Hall on campus with her new roommate, Any Wheeler.
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Now in between classes and band practices. She would make every effort to
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travel back home to visit her father and her family, so she was very
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family oriented even though she was away at college. On October seventh, nineteen
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eighty five, Stacy headed out to play a softball game, and then after
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that game, she met up with friends at a restaurant called Pizza Factory just
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outside. I wonder what they sold, stud cow zones. Probably probably cow
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zones. That's not even a good one. You should have said, like
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Chinese food or something. You're trying to be funny. They probably did solve
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cowl zone Stewart, Yeah, it's a pizza factory. A cow zone is
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just a pizza fold in half without the sauce. Well I didn't say the
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cow zone factory not doing it? Okay, Well you're a factory now.
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After eating at the pizza place, she rode with friends and they stopped at
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the boy's dormitory Saucy. She wanted to stop and talk to a fellow by
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the name of Tommy Osborne. Tommy and Stacy had recently started dating. Now
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she decides to stay for a bit, so her friends split head back to
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wherever they're going, and later that evening Tommy drives Stacy back to her dormitory
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and drops her off. Now around two thirty am on October eighth, so
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this is early morning, hours after the softball game. Amy, Stacy's a
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roommate, knocked on the door of her neighbor, Stephanie Alexander, asking her
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if she could let her in the room, as she had locked herself out,
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and Stacy wasn't answering when she knocked on the door. So she's knocking,
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knock a knock, and nobody's come in, so they go. She
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goes over to next door. Now, the layout of the rooms was that
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there was two beds on one side with the bathroom connecting like a I guess
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like a Jack and Jill type situation. So there's a room on one side,
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a Jack and Jill bathroom, and then a room on the other side
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with the two beds. So you could access the other room as long as
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yeah, as long as the bathroom wasn't locked, like they could lock that
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door and lock their thing, but you could. As long as you could
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access that bathroom door, you could get into the other side of the room.
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So Stephanie agreed and Amy entered their dorm Stephanie and Amy just thought Stacy
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might have been partying and that she passed out and just couldn't hear Amy's knocks.
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They walking through the bathroom into Amy and Stacy's room, and they noticed
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Stacy is lying like abnormy on the bed, like almost like she had passed
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out or something like that. So Amy jokes about it, saying that she's
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just in this funny position everything. She's like, oh god, she or
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you know, Stacy's drank too much. She came in, just passed on
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the bed, she couldn't hear me knock, and she's just laying there looking
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all weird. Her legs were positioned that they were hanging off of the bed,
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and her underwear was pulled down. So I'm sure they just thought,
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oh, she was drunk, she was getting undressed or something. I mean,
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we've all been there, stude, you know. Yeah. So Amy
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walks over to Stacy and was going to help position her better so she wasn't
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half out of the bed and half in the bed. Trying to be a
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good roommate and everything. So she picks up her leg, but to Amy's
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surprise, it's very heavy and very cold, like she was not expecting that
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whatsoever. She's confused, but she starts looking. So she starts looking around
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and she sees blood everywhere because remember the lights are off, it's two thirty
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in the morning. She really starts to having to look and everything and things
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start looking ond to her. Now Amy and Stephanie they ran out of the
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dorm and went to her friend Belinda's dorm for help. Amy asked Belinda to
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go check on Stacy, so Belinda headed to the dorm room again, entering
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through Stephanie's room like I would be like, why are you coming to ask
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me? There's blood all over the place in a dead heavy leg. We
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need to call a professional. So Blenda goes down there and after seeing Stacy,
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Blenda ran to get the dormmother. Like this, this is like a
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what are like some what is the shows that are funny and it's it's like
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chaos and sitcom? Yeah, but with Margaret, it's like what is happening?
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So they run to get the dormmother Edna. Of course Edna is the
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name of the dormother I mean, can it be any other name? So
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Edna is like the adult in this in this scenario, So she calls campus
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security to come unlock Stacy's dorm room, and upon upon finding Stacy, the
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security team they call nine on one. So it takes all these people to
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call NIMA one for poor Stacy who's in there having something terrible of having happened
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to her life. I know she wasn't clinging to life, but I mean,
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I can't even believe that it took this many people to because what happened
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was the dormother from what I understood, she wouldn't enter through Stephanie's room how
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everybody else had been entering. So she goes to the door and she's like,
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well, I'm not going to enter unless I have security allow me to
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come in. And so she waited for security to come and then did this.
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I mean, it's just better not be choking on a peanut. Yeah,
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and it's like, we gotta follow the rolls. Fuck you Edna,
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God damn now please arrive on the scene and they find eighteen year old Stacy
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lying with her back on the bed. She had her left leg resting on
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the bed and right foot resting on the floor. She was partially covered with
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bed linens and was nude from the waist down. Her underwear we're pulled down
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around her lower left leg. A pillow had been placed over her head,
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and there was blood near her head on the headboard. Stacy had severe injuries
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to the left side of her head, and there was a large amount of
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blood on her head and on the pillow next to her. All of times
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I gotta say, head, I'm described. This was the actual court record,
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Stuart. I don't know. Okay, this is not the time to
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be saying. Just be freaking saying, head. Well, I don't know
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what you're saying. Nless you're getting some then you don't want to be saying
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you want to pause this right now? You're so gross what this is inappropriate?
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This is why we get bad review. Start. This is not why
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we get bad review. Okay, this is why. There's a lot of
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other reasons. Okay, well this is one of them. Now. There
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were blood spatters throughout the room, on the walls and ceiling and as far
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away as nine feet from her body. Near her body, they found a
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white drill rifle. The rifle had blood on the handle that was smeared around
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the barrel with a towel. It looked like someone that tried to wipe it
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clean. Yeah, there's blood all over it and then just on the on
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the barrel, just mid cleaning mid yankee off the shaft. Yeah, they're
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like they probably looked around like, ah, this is pointless. I need
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to get the hell out air. Yeah. I don't know why you'd try
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to clean the rifle when you got blood nine feet away from the body.
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It's like, it's it's a moot point I were trying to take as a
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souvenir and didn't want it to be noticeable or something. I have no clue
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what the hell they were doing. Well, maybe they're just trying to clean
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it off so that you wouldn't see what the actual murder weapon was, you
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think, Or maybe they had their hands there and they were wiping away.
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Prince, Well, this is true. They would have beat her with the
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drill rifle and it would have been on the barrel that would have used the
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barrel end. They would have held the barrel ind as a handle and hit
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her with the butt. Yes. Now, based on the initial scene,
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police believe she had been beaten to death with that drill rifle. Huh.
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Like we said to it's almost and this is exactly why we have bad reviews.
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Now, They checked the dorm room and find that no belongings were taking
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her purse was still there with money in it, and it did not appear
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that robbery was the motive. Based on the state of her clothing, underwear
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down and her shirt pulled up, they believe sexual assault was the motive.
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When looking around to see where the attacker had entered, they find that the
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screen on a window near Stacy's bed had been cut. The screen had a
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hole about eight to ten inches long and eight to ten inches wide. Now
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I'd be suspicious. Yeah, you think Stewart that it's only eight to ten
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inches wide. I mean, who can fit through that? You can crawl
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through there if you get small and crawl to ten inches wide and ten inches
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tall. That's not those hands. Nobody was bigger than ten inches. It's
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less than a ruler. But nobody cuts a guy down screen and breaking.
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You just pulled a screen off the window. Anyways, Well we'll get further
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into the Stewart. Just like in the Darly Root here is if you it's
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like you think you wrote this case, but you did not. So the
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way Stacy died was very violent, and autopsy would later reveal that she had
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been bludging multiple times in the left side of the head with the butt of
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the rifle. Now there would have been a lot of rage behind this killing.
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The autopsy also revealed that Stacy had not been raped. Upon further view
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of the cut screen, they noticed the scream had been cut from the inside.
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Stewart, shut up. I know whoever killed Stacy was trying to mislead
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the police. They had staged the rape and cut the screen to make it
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look like an intruder entered from outside. They now needed to look at people
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living in the dorm as well as people close to Stacy that might have been
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let inside the room, because obviously there wasn't a struggle, so Stacy probably
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let whoever come into the room, or they were lying in wait. I
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don't know, because they still would have had to break in. Stuart,
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you don't have any sense at all. Yeah, First, police interview everybody
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that was in the dorm that night, and no one recalls hearing any screams
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or any type of commotion. Stephanie, who lived in the dorm room attached
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to Stacy's so that she had been doing homework, then she went to sleep
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and she didn't hear anything until Amy knocked on her door, so they began
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retracing her steps that day and find out that the last person she spoke to
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was Tommy. So they visit Tommy at his dorm room around seven thirty am
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the morning of Stacy's murder, just saying the short name for Tommy is tom
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and we all know that Tom's are terrible. Right now, now, Tommy
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tells police that he dropped Stacy off around eleven fifteen pm and returned to his
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dorm. Police interview witnesses and they tell police that Tommy was in the dorm
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the entire night. They continued to question Tommy since he was the last one
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to see her supposedly alive. Anyway, start what just read the paper?
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Now? They ask if he'll take a polygraph test and if they could search
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his room, so he agrees to both. I'm just so disappointed all these
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things where they just rely on these polygraph tests, you know, yeah,
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come on, yeah, sure, I'll take it. I mean, but
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I guess back in the eighties they thought it was like solid proof, you
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know, horsehit. Nothing suspicious was found in the dorm room and Tommy did
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pass the polygraph, So after this they cleared Tommy as a suspect to their
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own demise. And I'm kidding even though his name is Tommy, which is
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could be tom for short, which means he's a bad person. So STU
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ask Stu. Unfortunately, during while we were taking a small break, he
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made the mistake of ask of talking about vander Pump rules and it went into
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an entire um explanation with examples and everything, and he regretted ever being born
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already been down recording us right now now. When questioning family and friends,
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they found they discovered that the ex fiance been the Cox go ahead and lax
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laughs to Police learned that Ben was very upset about the ending of the relationship.
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Friends say he had come to Stacy's dorm room before wanting to talk to
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her. Now. Stephanie told police that Stephanie the next door neighbor, I
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don't want to get confused because Stacy Stephanie very similar names. Stephanie the next
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door neighbor told police that at one point Stacy tried to give back the ring
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and he would not accept it. She said that Stacy told her that Ben
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would not take no for an answer and that Stacy seemed kind of like afraid
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of him. After all these interactions. Now with this information, police set
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out to find this motherfucker you know it's Ben Cox. Yeah. They bring
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Ben in and he denies any involvement. Of course he does. He told
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them the last time he had seen Stacy was about a week ago. He
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told them he was at home the whole time, and his mother, of
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course saw him in bed around the time that around eleven PM. The time
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that stay, she was in her dorm room. Now she had just gotten
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off work whenever she saw him at a round eleven PM, is what she
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said. So Ben agreed to take a polygraph as there was no one to
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alibi his whereabouts during those hours after the murder, because she got off work
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she saw him. But where is he until Stacy's actually murdered? Like we
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said, Stacy got dropped off around eleven fifteen pm. But but her murder
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obviously occurred between that eleven fifteen and the two thirty am when Stephanie and Amy
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found her. Now Ben had inconclusive results with the polygraphs polygraph test, but
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there was no evidence at the crime scene to actually play all I know,
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we got him, got him done, got him. So they were at
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a loss. But they released Ben, but they would keep looking into him
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because, like say, had no heart evidence, but they're depending on these
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polygraph tests. Are like, that's a little little inconclusive. So we'll keep
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an eye on this motherfucker. How they gonna keep an eye on him.
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They're gonna just trail I don't know, Stuart, They're gonna All they have
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is his mother mother vouching for his whereabouts somewhere else with that mother mother ever,
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Yeah, anyways, that's all they have is the mother saying he was
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there, and then the inclusive polygraph and then no other evidence. So they're
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at a loss with this guy. Well, almost a year went by,
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fifteen different investigators had worked this case and they had interviewed over four hundred people.
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How do you interview four hundred people? Well, because it's a college
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campus, they had to interview everybody in the dorm room. They had to
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interview all the friends on campus, the band members, everybody. It's a
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lot of people they with this crime, with this crime because of being a
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college student, member of the band in a dorm. There's just a lot
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of people around this girl that they would have had to talk to and say
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does she have any enemies? Did you see anything? Did she talk to
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you about it? And like I said, she was a likable person.
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Like if it was me, they'd be like, we talked to three people.
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Okay, third person didn't even know her. They were just in the
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area. This is a true statement, but over quantity, Stewart, that's
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what I stay with, my friend. Yes, yes, Now, with
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nothing to go on, they turned to a police chief out of East Hazelcrest,
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Illinois, a guy by the name of Stephen Rhodes. They found Rhodes
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when one of the investigators had attended one of his lectures where he walked,
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Sorry that was that's a typo. It would have been talked, not walked.
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Stewart, That's what happens. Whenever I read what you wrote. I
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think you said I asked you to just read stuff all the time, and
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then you go like, didn't you just go off? And I'm like,
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Stewart, just stick to the script, for God's sakes. And then the
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one time I put a W instead of a T, and all of a
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sudden, it's like, oh my god, I can't believe I read this
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shit you write. Yeah, like I'm following the car navigation right into the
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pond or something. Maybe I set you up. I think I set me
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up for failure. Now, he often talked about special interrogation techniques. Hey
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called this technique neurolinguistic program that's not a type of that's the actual naming of
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its stewards or NILPE. Really Now, basically it was a way to tell
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his that's not what they call it NILP. Everybody, don't be walking around
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repeating that act like you're smart. That is something stew just made up and
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there's no eye if anything would be the NLP system or something. Yeah,
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NILPE, no STU worked. So basically, it's a way to tell if
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someone was lying based on their body language rather than what they were saying.
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I mean I whenever I first read this, I thought neuro linguistic programming.
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I like, this guy's a fucking dumbass. You know, he's just looking
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at tails. Yeah, he's just looking at body language to determine whether someone's
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lying or not. So he used examples of I've watched the whole situation,
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Like he's got a doctorate and stuff in this bullshit he's talking about like different
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things. He's like, yeah, someone says that saying yes about something,
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but they're shaking their head like no. That means that they're lying, Like,
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yeah, you dumb motherfucker. I got that without my doctorate degree.
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If someone is telling me no, but they're shaking their head yes, why
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they're saying it, then yeah, I think that they mean yes, but
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they're just saying no. Anyways, I think it's a bunch of bullshit.
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But whatever, munch of hocum. Yeah, Ok, and not the good
25:41
kind of hocus pocus. I said, hokem not hocum. Well or hocus
25:45
pocus, same difference. Well, police bring back in the roommate Amy.
25:51
She passes her interview. On September eighteenth, nineteen eighty six. They bring
25:55
in Stephanie. Rhodes started to pick up on some taels. He felt that
26:00
she was lying about something. After having her go through her story multiple times,
26:06
she finally said that she went back in the room. This is when
26:10
they can continue to question Stephanie and she confesses, yeah, she's basically saying
26:15
basically. He asked her over and over and over again, and then finally
26:18
she came up with that she changed her story a little bit, and they're
26:22
like, gotcha, bitch, you know, like Dave Chappelle, gotcha bitch.
26:27
So Stephanie tells police that she and then after that she's just a freaking
26:32
spring. She's just just just squirting it out stick. Oh sounds a little
26:41
You're disgusting. Anyways, Stephanie tells police that she was doing homework in her
26:45
room and took three coating tablets sometime between nine pm and ten thirty PM because
26:51
of pain from an ovary infection. I don't even want to know what that
26:53
feels like, because I know what just in general, just ovary pains can
26:59
feel like from either you know, womanly stuff for pregnancy stuff, and it's
27:06
terrible. Stuart, shut up. You don't know anything about ovary pains.
27:10
So she had been out earlier in the evening, playing cards and visiting friends,
27:14
and this included Tommy Osbourne's. This is prior to her coating tablet taking
27:21
between nine thirty and ten thirty PM. This is her actions before. So
27:25
she dozes off after taking that, she starts doing homework, and she do
27:29
after taking that coating well. She wakes up around twelve thirty am when she
27:33
heard Stacy and some other girls returning home in the adjacent room and Now the
27:37
girls were helping Stacy get to her room because she had been drinking STU hardcore.
27:44
Now she heard Stacy say Tommy is so fine, I could fuck his
27:48
brains out. And this is what Stephanie's saying she heard. I mean,
27:51
this is verbatim, this is her. She actually, this is what she
27:55
had written in a statement to police. So here's that. And like I
28:00
said, she had been hanging out with Tommy earlier the night, so she's
28:03
I think she was a little sweet on Tommy. So Stephanie asked them to
28:07
be quiet, and the girls helping Stacy, they decided to leave after they
28:11
got her into the room. Now Stephanie couldn't go back to sleep, so
28:15
she went back to Stacy's room to talk. She asked Stacy if she had
28:18
fun that night, and Stacy said she did. Now they talked about Tommy,
28:22
whom Stacy, like I said, had been dating. So they talked
28:26
about a boy Stephanie had been dating as well. They then talked about Tommy
28:30
again. Now Stacy asked Stephanie what she thought about Tommy, and Stephanie said
28:36
she thought he was fine. And this is a quotation marks while he was
28:41
fine, that's the Lingo in the day. Yep. So Stacy told Stephanie
28:47
you had better stay the hell away from him. I'm tired of you in
28:51
your fucking room. I guess there's a little room on room hatred going on.
28:55
So we have Stephanie and her roommate and Stacy and her roommate on the
28:57
other side of the bathroom door. So if like, that's probably a pretty
29:02
contentious situation. If you don't like each other, you have to share a
29:03
bathroom, I mean it can't go. Yeah, if you don't you hate
29:10
each other and you have to share a bathroom, that's the ultimate. You
29:14
might as well just just put him in a ring together and put some boxing
29:17
gloves because they're gonna go at it. Yeah, or Stewart, don't turns
29:22
into a sexual situation, jello or mud or whatever. So Stacy was standing
29:29
in front of the mirror and pointing her finger in Stephanie's face. Now Stephanie
29:33
mentioned Tommy again and Stacy slapped her. Starts Stewarts re enacting this entire scene
29:41
right now, Stacy, what did I say? Stacy slapped her. So
29:45
Stephanie then called Stacy a bitch and slapped her back. So we're in a
29:48
bitch slapping situation. Now. Stacy told Stephanie, I better not see you
29:52
hanging around him. I'll kill you, do you hear me? And again,
29:56
this is obviously Stacy is has been murdered. So this is all Stephanie's,
30:03
you know, recollection of what occurred that night. So Stacy slapped alex
30:07
erst Stacy slapped Stephanie again, and Stacy then put her hands around Stephanie's throat
30:14
and Stephanie kicked her to get away. Stacy fell off the bed onto the
30:18
bed and started to get up to go towards Stephanie. And Stephanie had been
30:22
twirling Stacy's drill rifle the whole time they've been talking, so she has this
30:26
in her hand, she's messing with it and everything that as they're getting into
30:29
this altercation. Now, at some point, Stephanie had laid it back down
30:33
against Stacy's bed, but Stacy then picked up the drill rifle and says,
30:37
she hits Stacy. Now, Stacy, what, Stuart, what is that?
30:42
What I said? Yeah, no, I said, Stephanie picked up
30:45
the drill rifle and hit Stacy. Stacy fell back onto the bed. That's
30:51
not what I said, Stuart, That's fucking not what I said. I'm
30:56
almost positive, man, Okay, I'm not playing it back. Stephanie fucking
31:00
hit Stacy with the drill rifle. Stacy ll back onto the bed, and
31:04
Stacy got up and started towards Stephanie again and called her a fucking bitch,
31:10
just like Stewart is right now. Wow. Stephanie then hit her again with
31:15
the drill rifle. When Stacy fell back on the bed, Stephanie hit her
31:18
three more times with the drill rifle. And again, this is all Stephanie
31:22
saying all this. This is her exact things she wrote out to police.
31:26
Stephanie says she was out of it and because of the codeine and she didn't
31:30
know what she was doing. The rifle fell out of Stephanie's hand and she
31:33
locked the door to the hall, washed her hands in the sink, and
31:37
put a pillow over Stacy's head because she just didn't want to see all that
31:41
she had done. Stephanie then got a steak knife that Stacy had barred from
31:45
Stephanie out of the drawer and cut the screen so that would look like someone
31:49
had come through the window. But Rookie mistake. You should have cut it
31:52
from the outside. I should have just thrown the screen, Yeah, kicked
31:56
the screen in or something and done something. Actually, got to do it
32:00
from the outside. You gotta be realistic. So she pulled Stacy's underwear down
32:04
so that it would appear that someone had raped her, and she tried to
32:07
wipe off part of the rifle. Now, Stephanie then took a bath and
32:10
burned the screen that she had cut out and the shirt she had been wearing
32:15
in the toilet of the bathroom. Which of the adjoining two rooms. Smoke
32:19
was in the bathroom. So Stephanie then sprayed some of Amy's perfume in the
32:22
bathroom and then Stephanie just went back to bed, went to sleep like whatever
32:27
casual. She'd been drinking and taking Cody and so with just casual, like
32:32
I'm just gonna commit a murderer, burn the evidence, and then go to
32:36
sleep. She was tired. The fuck this pitch is crazy, you think,
32:42
Yeah, well, if she's on coating and drinking, I bet all
32:45
of you were shot right now. You didn't You didn't see Stephanie coming as
32:49
the murderer. Now you didn't you? Oh well, you read ahead but
32:53
whenever you're reading the head you're like, oh, well, I didn't see
32:55
that one coming. Well I might have said that. Okay. Anyway,
33:00
police were in shock because they never suspected Stephanie either. I hate us right
33:06
now. This is where we get this exact episode. Is why we're gonna
33:08
get bad reviews because we're just like nonchalant about this. It's very tragic what
33:15
happened to Stacy. Well, let's just say that right now. We understand
33:17
it's very tragic. But Stephanie's fucking ridiculous with her codine and her burning shit
33:22
and spray and perfume and doing all this stuff. She's a fucking nightmare.
33:28
She deserves to be made fun of. I want to know what a roommate
33:30
had to say about her? Is that any Yeah, we No, we
33:32
didn't get to talk to the roommate. I guess she wasn't there. No,
33:36
that's too bad. Well, I want to know what Stephanie was like
33:38
being in a regular day to daylight. Yeah, day to day. Now,
33:44
they had spoken to Stephanie several times throughout the investigation, and she had
33:49
been helpful the whole time. Stephanie gave the same confession on three different occasions,
33:53
once on September eighteenth, again on the nineteenth, and again finally on
33:59
September twenty one. Yeah, this whole thing where she walks through, I
34:01
mean it's almost verbatim how her and Stacy had this altercation. So this wasn't
34:07
a one off. This crazy investigator from Chicago or whatever her Illinois came in
34:13
and like manipulated her. This was She'd done this on three this exact statement
34:17
three different times. Well, on top of that, on top of her
34:22
three signed confessions while in jail, Stephanie also wrote an eleven page letter to
34:27
Randy Price, which as a boy she had been dating for about a week.
34:30
In that dumb bitch, I'm sorry, she again confessed to the crime
34:37
and described the circumstances surrounding the killing. Stephanie told Randy that she didn't mean
34:42
to do it and that it was an accident. She explained to Randy that
34:45
she had been heavily sedated and had a mental block about the killing. She
34:50
wrote that she hadn't been able to remember killing Stacy before, but had nightmares
34:55
about the killing. Stephanie told Randy that she had known what she was doing
35:00
at the time. It's a lot to confesses them when you've been dating a
35:04
week, brilliant, it's a lot. I mean Randy was probably like thanks,
35:07
like Jesus, yes, because I would have hated to have to break
35:10
with her. She might have murdered me too, Like I need to get
35:14
away from this crazy girl. Yeah, I would have dropped out of that
35:16
college and trans Oh yeah, I would just transferred, changed my name.
35:19
But like, I gotta go away from Stephanie, changed your name. I
35:22
gotta get away from Stephanie Stewart. You're so so stupid. So on September
35:28
twenty second, nineteen eighty six, Please announced that twenty one year old music
35:30
major, music major Stewart, I don't know what that says about her,
35:34
Stephanie Alexander, had been arrested and charged with the murder of Stacey. Now,
35:37
Stephanie's bell was said at one hundred thousand dollars, which she actually posted
35:42
stude she came up with, which hundred thousand dollars? You only for a
35:45
bell, bondsman, you need to come up with ten percent, So it's
35:47
fine. Uh. During this time, Stephanie began claiming her innocence. Stephanie
35:52
contended that the confessions confession she had had she had made were a product of
35:59
hipnotic suggestion, and her lawyers argue that they were inadmissible. She said,
36:05
someone hypnotized me, this fancy lawyer from Illinois. So Stephanie claimed that the
36:10
authorities had been desperate to solve the case and that they planted the story in
36:14
her mind that she had killed Stacy. Our hearing was held in June of
36:17
nineteen eighty seven to determine if the statements made by Stephanie to the investigators and
36:22
that letter to old Randy were voluntary or if they were made due to coercion,
36:28
threats, or promises of leniency or hypnotic suggestion. Now, during the
36:32
suppression hearing, the court heard from everyone who was present when Stephanie was making
36:37
these confessions, writing these down everything like that. The trial judge overruled Stephanie's
36:43
motion to suppress the statements given to law enforcement officers and that letter to Randy
36:47
while she was in custody. The court found, and this is quote beyond
36:52
a reasonable doubt that Stephanie was at no time hypnotized during the sessions, and
36:57
that Stephanie was properly advised of her rights and she was not under the influence
37:00
of hypnosis at any time when she made the confessional statements. That Stephanie acted
37:06
voluntarily at old times pertinent to the confession. I'm sorry. You don't fucking
37:10
confess three times and write a letter on three different days and write this letter
37:15
to this like Randy dude and say you're you're under hypnosis the whole time.
37:22
That's so stupid. I mean, they're just throwing shit at the wall.
37:25
Seriously, Steward, you don't think she's innocent now, you're just saying that
37:30
because you know she's out right now, Well, yeah, I don't want
37:32
her look at and you should have seen her like a real bitch, a
37:38
real Karen. Let me tell it, kind of like you're looking at Marina.
37:42
Yes, oh god. Now. A change of venue was granted Stephanie
37:45
due to publicity, and the trial began on January fourth, nineteen eighty eight.
37:51
The jury, consisting of five men and seven women, heard thirty two
37:54
witnesses and reviewed ninety pieces of evidence. On January twenty fifth, night eighty
38:00
eight, the jury deliberated for an hour and fifty minutes, and they returned
38:04
a verdict of guilty on manslaughter, which was the lesser charge than the prosecution
38:07
requested. The jury had the option to find her innocent, guilty of capital
38:14
murder or manslaughter. Yeah, the prosecution really wanted the capital murder charge,
38:19
but they didn't get it obviously. Yeah, shut up, Stu, I'm
38:22
just trying to link, summarize. I'm brading here, Okay. I know
38:28
it's a struggle for you, I know, get the hamster world, sound
38:31
out the big words. The judge sentence Stephanie to twenty years in the custody
38:36
of the Mississippi Department of Corrections. Stephanie continued to claim her innocence and filed
38:40
an appeal, but lost that. Her lawyers argued that the x fiance was
38:45
the one that killed Stacy that night, and that police had used a dangerous
38:49
man to get the confession out of Stephanie's That roads dude from Yeah, this
38:55
is in the newspaper, like a newspaper article. Our newspaper journal interviewed him
39:00
and they called him a dangerous man. Yeah, they said that he used
39:04
tricks and chicanery, chicanery to obtain the confession. The paper's question why local
39:10
investigators could not get a confession out of Stephanie in a year, but Rhodes
39:15
came into town and he did it in one hour. I think he just
39:19
I mean, it is odd, I'll say that, but I think after
39:22
a year maybe it just got to her that she had done this. I
39:25
mean the fact that if it had been one single confession that day and then
39:30
the next day she immediately said, this didn't happen. But how do you
39:35
do it three times, three different days, with three different people, and
39:39
then also write that letter, so it's a total of four times like that.
39:44
Consistent? Yeah, all consistent. Everything was the same. I mean,
39:46
I don't know how you write it to the new boyfriend or the new
39:50
guy you're dating and write that in your own words and your own Gael cell
39:53
and it's not true. That's it's not a one off situation. So Steve
39:59
Rowe it was from Illinois, probably Chicago. That was probably al Bundy's neighbor
40:04
back and when before he went to become a park ranger. What al Bundy
40:08
was neighbors with Steve and Marcy Rhodes. Okay, Then Steve Rhodes left Marcy
40:15
and went to pick I'm a park ranger, and then she married Jefferson Darcy,
40:20
so she became Marcy Darcy. I'm real sad that you know this,
40:23
this much detailed information about al Bundy. Al Bundy married with children, Yes,
40:32
okay, yes, I grew up during that time when it was a
40:37
hit show. Yeah, but the fact that you know the whole history is
40:39
a little bit disturbing. What do you mean in the whole history? Ted
40:45
Bundy? Sure, I'd be impressed. No, Al Bundy. How do
40:51
you know that this wasn't the neighbor at what episode did Rachel meet Ross or
40:55
whatever? How they meet? I'm sad that you know that Rachel and Ross
41:00
met each other because that was Monica's best friend in high school, and so
41:04
she met Ross back in high school. But they re met back in New
41:08
York in the first initial pilot episode whenever Rachel left the Altar and didn't get
41:14
married and ran in there in her wedding dress into the coffee shop central Perk
41:19
and Saul, Monica and Ross and everything in It's a whole ordeal. Anyways,
41:25
Well, I'm sad. I'm sad for you. So Stephanie would only
41:30
serve ten years of her prison sentence, with which was the minimum required before
41:34
being eligible for Pearl now Stephanie who is now Stephanie Loudon has at least one
41:38
son that I found, and she started to go fund me. This is
41:44
just some not fun I'm not gonna call him fun fact, some random facts
41:50
that this woman has out on the internet. So she started to go fund
41:53
me for him back in twenty twenty two to go to south Wind Drum and
41:57
Bugle Corps Corp Corp Core. She raised one thousand, six hundred and thirty
42:04
eight dollars of the five thousand dollars she wanted. Now, I'm not saying
42:07
anything bad about the sun. The sun can't help it. He's just born
42:10
into this murderer. But she was diagnosed with stage four small Why are you
42:17
looking at me? This is what happens when people put their public their profiles
42:22
on Facebook publics. Dude, Ward, I'm gonna look it up. Anybody
42:27
who's in one of our cases. I always look up their profiles on Facebook.
42:30
And so if you make it public, and you have go fund mes
42:32
and you have different posts about your health diagnosis, then I'm gonna see it.
42:37
You would you like me not to continue to read? Oh? No,
42:40
you can continue to read. She was diagnosed with stage four small lumpsidic
42:46
leukemia in twenty nineteen, and she started to go fund me for that as
42:51
well, but she only raised six hundred and eighty five dollars. Now,
42:53
she currently owns a music business of some sort, and she has been on
42:59
two Crew true crime shows professing her innocence. And that's all I got.
43:05
No, I do not. I think she did it because there were taels.
43:10
Well, no, because she confessed three four times. Yeah, that
43:15
was the tail that they got the she I think the one guy just asked
43:17
her so many times he just got lucky, and she freaking confessed to it,
43:21
and then she confessed two more times and then wrote a letter about it,
43:24
and then she got lucky because she only had to be in jail for
43:27
ten years for this, which is a bunch of bullshit. So whatever,
43:30
it's per capital murder. Yeah, I probably has manslaughter. If she was
43:34
drunk on Cody, I think she. I'm sorry, I don't care.
43:37
You shouldn't be you should be in jail longer than ten years. I didn't
43:42
say how long she should be in jail. I'm just saying that the manslaughter
43:44
is appropriate as opposed to ain't she had that son. I'm assuming she got
43:47
knocked up in prison. I don't know why would she get knocked up in
43:51
prison. I'm sure there was conjugal visits. I don't know if she found
43:53
a husband there. I'm just saying the math isn't adding up well. Years
43:59
nineteen eighty six or eighty five, nineteen ninety five and her son was in
44:04
high school not that long ago. Okay, Yes, she got pregnant after
44:07
her prison, so basically she got out of prison and then started a new
44:13
life, basically got married, had a son, at least one, started
44:17
some go fund means. Anyways, but I guess we will see you next
44:23
time by her one say, by stud, by stud, don't you know
44:29
it's bye to be supersticious? By nothing else is working? Hurting sick by carriage