Latest / The Articulate Fly / S8, Ep 50: Navigating Summer Waters: Ellis Ward on Trout, Musky and the Art of the Evening Bite
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- 0:04Folks,
- 0:04it's
- 0:04Marvin
- 0:05Cash,
- 0:05the
- 0:05host
- 0:05of
- 0:06The
- 0:06Articulat
- 0:06Fly.
- 0:06We're
- 0:06back
- 0:07with
- 0:07another
- 0:07East
- 0:07Tennessee
- 0:08Fishing
- 0:08Report
- 0:08with
- 0:08the
- 0:09man
- 0:09himself,
- 0:09Ellis
- 0:10Ward.
- 0:10Ellis,
- 0:11how
- 0:11are
- 0:11you?
- 0:12I
- 0:12am
- 0:13feeling
- 0:13good,
- 0:14Marv.
- 0:14How
- 0:14are
- 0:15you?
- 0:15Just
- 0:15trying
- 0:16to
- 0:16stay
- 0:16out
- 0:16of
- 0:16trouble
- 0:16and
- 0:17stay
- 0:18cool.
- 0:18And
- 0:18I
- 0:18tell
- 0:18you,
- 0:19you
- 0:19know,
- 0:19if
- 0:19people
- 0:19are
- 0:19chasing
- 0:20trout,
- 0:20you
- 0:20have
- 0:20pretty
- 0:21much
- 0:21the
- 0:21only
- 0:21program
- 0:22probably
- 0:22in
- 0:22the
- 0:22mid
- 0:22Atlantic
- 0:23on
- 0:23the
- 0:23tailwaterfront.
- 0:24Right?
- 0:26Yeah.
- 0:27That
- 0:28reminds
- 0:28me
- 0:28of
- 0:29the,
- 0:30the
- 0:30alerts
- 0:31that
- 0:31we
- 0:31would
- 0:31get
- 0:31when
- 0:31I
- 0:31was
- 0:32living
- 0:32in
- 0:33D.C.
- 0:34fishing
- 0:34up
- 0:34in
- 0:35the
- 0:35Shenandoah.
- 0:36You,
- 0:37you
- 0:37would
- 0:37get,
- 0:38you
- 0:38know,
- 0:39the,
- 0:39the
- 0:39no
- 0:39go
- 0:40zones
- 0:40for
- 0:41going
- 0:42out
- 0:42and
- 0:42chasing
- 0:42brookies.
- 0:43So
- 0:43we
- 0:44do
- 0:44not
- 0:44have
- 0:44to
- 0:45deal
- 0:45with
- 0:45that.
- 0:47And
- 0:47in
- 0:48fact,
- 0:48this
- 0:48week
- 0:49it
- 0:49was
- 0:50had
- 0:50a
- 0:50guy
- 0:50reaching
- 0:51out
- 0:51about
- 0:51maybe
- 0:51muskie,
- 0:52maybe
- 0:52trout,
- 0:52and
- 0:52he
- 0:53goes
- 0:53out
- 0:53with
- 0:53the
- 0:53heat.
- 0:55Muskie's
- 0:56probably
- 0:56the
- 0:56call.
- 0:56And
- 0:56I
- 0:56just
- 0:57thought,
- 0:57how
- 0:58interesting,
- 0:58because
- 0:59everyone
- 0:59else
- 1:00in
- 1:00this
- 1:01area
- 1:02in
- 1:02the
- 1:02south
- 1:02and
- 1:03definitely,
- 1:04you
- 1:04know,
- 1:04fly
- 1:05anglers,
- 1:08that
- 1:08the
- 1:08culture
- 1:09is
- 1:09relatively
- 1:10unaware
- 1:10of
- 1:10the
- 1:11fact
- 1:11that
- 1:12in
- 1:12the
- 1:13summer,
- 1:13it
- 1:14doesn't
- 1:14matter
- 1:14how
- 1:14hot
- 1:14it
- 1:15is
- 1:16here.
- 1:18Our
- 1:18tailwaters
- 1:19are
- 1:19cold
- 1:20enough
- 1:20to
- 1:20kill
- 1:21you
- 1:21if
- 1:21you
- 1:21fall
- 1:21in
- 1:22and
- 1:22stay
- 1:23in
- 1:23for
- 1:23long
- 1:23enough.
- 1:24And
- 1:25musky
- 1:26waters
- 1:26stay
- 1:27in
- 1:27the
- 1:27low
- 1:2770s,
- 1:28even
- 1:28on
- 1:28the
- 1:28hottest
- 1:29days.
- 1:29So
- 1:30it's
- 1:30a
- 1:30fun
- 1:30problem
- 1:31to
- 1:31have
- 1:31when
- 1:32confronted
- 1:33with
- 1:35that
- 1:35knowledge
- 1:35set
- 1:36because
- 1:36I
- 1:36get
- 1:36to
- 1:36say,
- 1:37well,
- 1:38we
- 1:38can
- 1:39fish
- 1:39for
- 1:39muskie,
- 1:41we
- 1:41can
- 1:41fish
- 1:41for
- 1:42trout,
- 1:42we
- 1:42can
- 1:42do
- 1:42it
- 1:43with
- 1:43a
- 1:43dry
- 1:43fly
- 1:43rod,
- 1:44we
- 1:44can
- 1:44do
- 1:44it
- 1:44with
- 1:44streamers,
- 1:46we
- 1:46can
- 1:47throw
- 1:47a
- 1:47bait
- 1:47caster
- 1:48for
- 1:48muskie,
- 1:48we
- 1:49can
- 1:49fish
- 1:49for
- 1:49striper
- 1:50with
- 1:50a
- 1:50spin
- 1:50rod.
- 1:51Um,
- 1:51we
- 1:52can
- 1:52start
- 1:52at
- 1:527am
- 1:52or
- 1:537pm
- 1:54what
- 1:54do
- 1:55you
- 1:55want
- 1:55to
- 1:55do?
- 1:56So,
- 1:56yeah,
- 1:56it's.
- 1:58The
- 1:58tailwaters
- 1:59can
- 1:59be
- 1:59hard,
- 2:00and
- 2:01there's
- 2:01pros
- 2:01and
- 2:01cons
- 2:01to
- 2:02everything,
- 2:02of
- 2:02course,
- 2:03but
- 2:03their
- 2:04ceiling
- 2:04is
- 2:04very
- 2:05high
- 2:05and
- 2:05it
- 2:05affords
- 2:06the
- 2:06opportunity
- 2:07to,
- 2:07to
- 2:07go
- 2:07out
- 2:08and
- 2:08catch
- 2:09fish,
- 2:09period
- 2:10in
- 2:11the
- 2:11coldest
- 2:12and
- 2:12hottest
- 2:12days
- 2:13of
- 2:13the
- 2:13year.
- 2:13And
- 2:15certainly
- 2:16nice
- 2:16to
- 2:16beat
- 2:16the
- 2:17heat
- 2:17with
- 2:18some
- 2:18later
- 2:18fishing
- 2:19and
- 2:20night
- 2:20fishing
- 2:21this
- 2:21time
- 2:21of
- 2:22year.
- 2:22Yeah,
- 2:23we'll
- 2:23get
- 2:23to
- 2:23that
- 2:23in
- 2:24a
- 2:24minute
- 2:24because
- 2:24it
- 2:24sounds
- 2:24like
- 2:24you've
- 2:25kind
- 2:25of
- 2:25got
- 2:25the
- 2:25whole
- 2:25dry
- 2:26fly
- 2:26streamer
- 2:27evening
- 2:27game
- 2:27kind
- 2:27of
- 2:27dialed
- 2:28in.
- 2:28But,
- 2:28you
- 2:28know,
- 2:28from
- 2:29what
- 2:29I've
- 2:29been
- 2:29watching,
- 2:30you
- 2:30know
- 2:30you're
- 2:31having
- 2:31an
- 2:31unusually
- 2:31good
- 2:32sulfur
- 2:32hatch
- 2:32this
- 2:33year.
- 2:33And
- 2:33the
- 2:33streamer
- 2:33bite.
- 2:34I
- 2:34mean,
- 2:34I've
- 2:34been
- 2:34watching
- 2:35your
- 2:35videos
- 2:35and
- 2:35others.
- 2:35I
- 2:35mean,
- 2:36people
- 2:36have
- 2:36been
- 2:36crushing
- 2:36fish
- 2:37on
- 2:37streamers.
- 2:37Right?
- 2:39Yeah,
- 2:41I,
- 2:42I
- 2:42do
- 2:42know
- 2:42that
- 2:44just
- 2:44on
- 2:44a
- 2:44day
- 2:45to
- 2:45day
- 2:45basis,
- 2:45it's.
- 2:47We've
- 2:47had
- 2:47some
- 2:48pretty
- 2:48significant
- 2:48bite
- 2:49windows
- 2:49and
- 2:50some
- 2:50of
- 2:50it's
- 2:50section
- 2:51to
- 2:51section
- 2:51some
- 2:51of
- 2:51its
- 2:52time
- 2:52of
- 2:52day.
- 2:54If
- 2:55you're
- 2:55fishing
- 2:55one
- 2:56section
- 2:56of
- 2:56river,
- 2:57I
- 2:58always
- 2:58like
- 2:58to
- 2:59remind
- 2:59people
- 3:00that
- 3:00if
- 3:00we
- 3:00went
- 3:00back
- 3:01and
- 3:01fished
- 3:01that
- 3:01section
- 3:02of
- 3:02river
- 3:02again
- 3:03in
- 3:03four
- 3:04hours,
- 3:06their
- 3:06interpretation,
- 3:07their
- 3:08perspective,
- 3:08their
- 3:09understanding
- 3:09of
- 3:09whatever
- 3:10that
- 3:10section
- 3:10of
- 3:10river
- 3:11was,
- 3:12is
- 3:12going
- 3:13to
- 3:13be,
- 3:13it
- 3:13could
- 3:14be
- 3:14night
- 3:14and
- 3:14day,
- 3:15it
- 3:15could
- 3:15be
- 3:15the
- 3:15exact
- 3:16same.
- 3:17And
- 3:17so
- 3:18a
- 3:18lot
- 3:19of
- 3:19that
- 3:19is
- 3:20still,
- 3:21you
- 3:21know,
- 3:21the,
- 3:22the
- 3:22musky
- 3:22fishing
- 3:23and
- 3:23the
- 3:23mousing
- 3:24mentality
- 3:25of
- 3:27continue
- 3:28to
- 3:28do
- 3:28the
- 3:28right
- 3:28thing
- 3:29and
- 3:29the
- 3:29right
- 3:30things
- 3:30are
- 3:30going
- 3:30to
- 3:30happen.
- 3:32It's
- 3:33a
- 3:33little
- 3:33harder
- 3:33with
- 3:33streamers
- 3:34because
- 3:34we
- 3:34get
- 3:34the
- 3:34dry
- 3:34flies.
- 3:36We,
- 3:36you
- 3:36know,
- 3:36we,
- 3:37we
- 3:37can
- 3:37see
- 3:37trout,
- 3:38um,
- 3:40expectations
- 3:40play
- 3:41a
- 3:41role
- 3:41as
- 3:41well.
- 3:42You
- 3:42know,
- 3:42if
- 3:42we're
- 3:42not
- 3:42moving
- 3:43fish
- 3:43in
- 3:43the
- 3:43first
- 3:43hour
- 3:45and
- 3:45then
- 3:45if
- 3:45we're
- 3:45not
- 3:46boating
- 3:46fish
- 3:46and
- 3:47then
- 3:47maybe
- 3:47the
- 3:47first
- 3:47few
- 3:47we
- 3:48vote
- 3:48aren't
- 3:48big
- 3:48or,
- 3:49you
- 3:50know,
- 3:50all
- 3:50those
- 3:50start
- 3:50to
- 3:51play
- 3:51into
- 3:51it
- 3:51because
- 3:51people's
- 3:52experience
- 3:52and
- 3:53what
- 3:53their
- 3:53understanding
- 3:54of
- 3:54what
- 3:55a
- 3:55bite
- 3:55should
- 3:55be
- 3:55or
- 3:56what
- 3:56streamer
- 3:56fishing
- 3:57should
- 3:57look
- 3:57like
- 3:57is.
- 3:59I'm,
- 4:00I'm
- 4:00with
- 4:00them,
- 4:01I'm
- 4:01with
- 4:02everyone
- 4:02who
- 4:02thinks
- 4:03that
- 4:0414
- 4:04to
- 4:0518
- 4:05inch
- 4:05brown
- 4:06trout
- 4:06should
- 4:06be
- 4:06slamming
- 4:07into
- 4:07a
- 4:08streamer
- 4:08that's
- 4:09three
- 4:09inches
- 4:09under
- 4:10the
- 4:10surface
- 4:10of
- 4:10the
- 4:10water.
- 4:11All
- 4:11the
- 4:11time
- 4:12that's
- 4:13what
- 4:13it
- 4:13should
- 4:13be,
- 4:14but
- 4:14most
- 4:14of
- 4:14the
- 4:14time
- 4:15it's
- 4:15not.
- 4:15And
- 4:17just
- 4:17keeping
- 4:18your
- 4:18head
- 4:18in
- 4:19the
- 4:19right
- 4:19space
- 4:19the
- 4:19whole
- 4:20time
- 4:21continues
- 4:22to
- 4:22pay
- 4:22off,
- 4:23but
- 4:23it's,
- 4:23I've
- 4:24had
- 4:24some
- 4:24great
- 4:24anglers,
- 4:26one
- 4:27person
- 4:27and
- 4:27two
- 4:27person
- 4:28trips
- 4:29where
- 4:29we're
- 4:29going
- 4:30two,
- 4:30three
- 4:30hours,
- 4:31we're
- 4:31to
- 4:31going,
- 4:31going
- 4:31big
- 4:32stretches
- 4:34which
- 4:34this
- 4:34time
- 4:35of
- 4:35year,
- 4:36often
- 4:37times
- 4:37it's
- 4:38sort
- 4:39of
- 4:39depending
- 4:39on
- 4:39how
- 4:39we
- 4:39fish,
- 4:40but
- 4:41we're,
- 4:41we're
- 4:41seeing
- 4:42more
- 4:44action
- 4:44with
- 4:44smaller
- 4:45fish.
- 4:47I'm
- 4:47going
- 4:47to
- 4:47take
- 4:48what,
- 4:48what
- 4:48we've
- 4:48been
- 4:49seeing
- 4:49and
- 4:49I
- 4:50cater
- 4:50it
- 4:50a
- 4:50little
- 4:51more
- 4:51to
- 4:52targeting
- 4:53fewer
- 4:53and
- 4:53bigger
- 4:54fish.
- 4:57I'm
- 4:57going
- 4:57to
- 4:57take
- 4:58that
- 4:58over
- 4:59the
- 4:59numbers
- 5:00days.
- 5:00But
- 5:00it
- 5:01has,
- 5:01it
- 5:01has
- 5:02felt
- 5:04a
- 5:05little
- 5:05more
- 5:05post
- 5:06spawn
- 5:06in
- 5:06the
- 5:06sense
- 5:07that
- 5:07we're
- 5:07getting
- 5:09high
- 5:10degrees
- 5:10of
- 5:10commitment.
- 5:12And
- 5:13when
- 5:14I
- 5:14say
- 5:14that
- 5:14Those
- 5:15are
- 5:15some
- 5:15$5
- 5:16words
- 5:16there,
- 5:17I'm
- 5:17talking
- 5:18about
- 5:18a
- 5:18trout
- 5:19that's
- 5:20like
- 5:20between
- 5:2020
- 5:21and
- 5:2125
- 5:21inches.
- 5:22So
- 5:23a
- 5:23big
- 5:23fish
- 5:25eating
- 5:25your
- 5:25streamer
- 5:26so
- 5:26hard
- 5:26that
- 5:26you
- 5:27can't
- 5:27screw
- 5:27it
- 5:27up,
- 5:30you
- 5:30can
- 5:31screw
- 5:31up
- 5:31landing
- 5:31it
- 5:31and
- 5:32there's
- 5:32a
- 5:32few
- 5:32different
- 5:33ways
- 5:33you
- 5:33can
- 5:33do
- 5:33that,
- 5:34but
- 5:34the
- 5:34hook
- 5:35set
- 5:35and
- 5:35you
- 5:36know
- 5:36what's,
- 5:36what's
- 5:36happening
- 5:37is
- 5:37that
- 5:37like
- 5:37that,
- 5:38that
- 5:38high
- 5:38degree
- 5:38of
- 5:39commitment
- 5:39is
- 5:40most
- 5:40of
- 5:40the
- 5:41time
- 5:41lower
- 5:41light,
- 5:43cloudier
- 5:43water
- 5:44and
- 5:47fishing
- 5:48a
- 5:48little
- 5:48Closer
- 5:48to
- 5:49the
- 5:49surface,
- 5:51giving
- 5:51big
- 5:51pill
- 5:52big
- 5:52kills.
- 5:52All
- 5:53that
- 5:53stuff
- 5:53that
- 5:53I
- 5:53talk
- 5:54about.
- 5:54But,
- 5:54but
- 5:55all
- 5:55that
- 5:55stuff
- 5:56has
- 5:56been
- 5:56great.
- 5:56And
- 5:59you
- 5:59know,
- 5:59the.
- 6:00The
- 6:00other
- 6:00side
- 6:00of
- 6:00it
- 6:01is
- 6:01the,
- 6:02the
- 6:02fours
- 6:02and
- 6:02the
- 6:02five
- 6:03weights.
- 6:04And
- 6:06yeah,
- 6:06dry
- 6:07fly
- 6:07activity
- 6:08has
- 6:08been
- 6:09pretty
- 6:10stellar.
- 6:11We've
- 6:12been
- 6:12getting
- 6:12the
- 6:12last
- 6:12week
- 6:13or
- 6:13two.
- 6:15It.
- 6:15It's
- 6:16a
- 6:16lit.
- 6:16It's
- 6:16better
- 6:16in
- 6:17low
- 6:17water.
- 6:18So
- 6:18we've
- 6:18been
- 6:18getting.
- 6:21It
- 6:21depends
- 6:22on
- 6:22what's
- 6:22happened
- 6:22with
- 6:23the
- 6:23tributaries
- 6:24at
- 6:24this
- 6:24point.
- 6:25They
- 6:25have
- 6:26gone
- 6:26up
- 6:26and
- 6:26come
- 6:27down
- 6:27and
- 6:27gone
- 6:27up
- 6:27so
- 6:28many
- 6:28times
- 6:28that
- 6:29things
- 6:29are
- 6:29kind
- 6:29of
- 6:30stabilizing.
- 6:30And
- 6:31it's
- 6:32high
- 6:32water
- 6:32or
- 6:33low
- 6:33water.
- 6:33We're.
- 6:35It's
- 6:35super
- 6:35buggy
- 6:37and
- 6:38fish
- 6:38are
- 6:38coming
- 6:38up
- 6:38and
- 6:39eating.
- 6:40And
- 6:40I,
- 6:41I
- 6:41talk
- 6:41about
- 6:41the
- 6:41tributaries
- 6:42with
- 6:42respect
- 6:42to
- 6:43dry
- 6:43flies
- 6:43because
- 6:44when
- 6:44we
- 6:44get
- 6:45runoff
- 6:46and
- 6:47when
- 6:47we
- 6:47get
- 6:47bigger
- 6:48flows
- 6:48from
- 6:48the
- 6:48tailwaters
- 6:49that
- 6:49sort
- 6:50of
- 6:50push
- 6:50up
- 6:50into
- 6:50those
- 6:51tributary
- 6:51mouths
- 6:52and
- 6:52bring
- 6:52in
- 6:52some
- 6:53of
- 6:53that
- 6:53runoff
- 6:53that's
- 6:54settled
- 6:55from
- 6:55recent
- 6:55flooding.
- 6:57The
- 6:58drop
- 6:58in
- 6:58clarity,
- 6:59or
- 6:59you
- 6:59could
- 7:00look
- 7:00at
- 7:00it
- 7:00as
- 7:00an
- 7:01increase
- 7:01in
- 7:01turbidity.
- 7:02The
- 7:02more
- 7:02stuff
- 7:03that's
- 7:03in
- 7:03the
- 7:03water,
- 7:04you
- 7:04tend
- 7:05to
- 7:05see
- 7:05that
- 7:05there's
- 7:05fewer
- 7:06bugs
- 7:06coming
- 7:06up.
- 7:07And
- 7:07so
- 7:08it's.
- 7:08Bugs
- 7:09are
- 7:09just
- 7:09like
- 7:09the,
- 7:10you
- 7:10know,
- 7:10they're
- 7:11just
- 7:12like
- 7:12fish.
- 7:13They
- 7:13don't
- 7:13want
- 7:13to
- 7:13come
- 7:13up
- 7:14when
- 7:14it's.
- 7:15You're
- 7:16not
- 7:16going
- 7:16to
- 7:16see
- 7:16as
- 7:16many
- 7:17when
- 7:17it's
- 7:17crystal
- 7:18clear
- 7:19and
- 7:20so
- 7:20just
- 7:21a
- 7:21little
- 7:21bit
- 7:21of
- 7:21color.
- 7:22That's
- 7:23why
- 7:23you
- 7:23see
- 7:23them
- 7:23in
- 7:23lower
- 7:24light.
- 7:25It's,
- 7:27you
- 7:28know,
- 7:28But.
- 7:28But
- 7:28they
- 7:28also
- 7:29want
- 7:29to
- 7:29come
- 7:29up
- 7:29and
- 7:29understand
- 7:30that
- 7:30they
- 7:30can
- 7:30get
- 7:31dried.
- 7:31And
- 7:31so
- 7:32there's.
- 7:32There's
- 7:33fun
- 7:33little
- 7:33dry
- 7:34fly
- 7:34windows
- 7:35where
- 7:36sometimes
- 7:37you
- 7:37get
- 7:37six
- 7:38or
- 7:38seven
- 7:38things.
- 7:39But
- 7:40it's
- 7:40windy,
- 7:41you
- 7:41get
- 7:41a
- 7:41little
- 7:42breeze,
- 7:44maybe
- 7:44there's
- 7:44a
- 7:45storm
- 7:45coming
- 7:45and
- 7:45you
- 7:46think
- 7:46that
- 7:46it
- 7:46should
- 7:46be
- 7:47good,
- 7:47but
- 7:47it's
- 7:47just
- 7:47not.
- 7:48And
- 7:48that's
- 7:48because
- 7:50I'm
- 7:50pretty
- 7:50sure
- 7:51they
- 7:51know
- 7:51that
- 7:51it's
- 7:51going
- 7:51to
- 7:51rain.
- 7:52So
- 7:53again,
- 7:53I'm
- 7:54just
- 7:54giving
- 7:54some
- 7:55of
- 7:55these
- 7:55examples
- 7:55because
- 7:56it's
- 7:56like
- 7:58you
- 7:58can
- 7:58see
- 7:58videos
- 7:59and
- 7:59say
- 7:59that
- 8:00dry
- 8:00fly
- 8:00fishing
- 8:00has
- 8:00been
- 8:01awesome
- 8:01and
- 8:01streamer
- 8:01fishing
- 8:02has
- 8:02been
- 8:03fantastic.
- 8:04And
- 8:04then
- 8:04at
- 8:04the
- 8:04same
- 8:04time,
- 8:05you
- 8:05come
- 8:05out
- 8:05here
- 8:05and
- 8:06it's
- 8:06like,
- 8:07here's
- 8:07what
- 8:07the
- 8:07set
- 8:08of
- 8:08conditions
- 8:08are
- 8:08today.
- 8:09And
- 8:12I
- 8:12love
- 8:12guiding
- 8:12the
- 8:13way
- 8:13I
- 8:13guide
- 8:13and
- 8:13I
- 8:14love
- 8:14fishing
- 8:14people
- 8:14the
- 8:15way
- 8:15that
- 8:15most
- 8:16people
- 8:16like
- 8:16to
- 8:16be
- 8:16fished
- 8:17and
- 8:17most
- 8:17people
- 8:18like
- 8:18to
- 8:18fish
- 8:18themselves
- 8:19because
- 8:21you
- 8:21really,
- 8:22until
- 8:22you're
- 8:22an
- 8:23hour
- 8:23in,
- 8:24you
- 8:24don't
- 8:24know
- 8:25what
- 8:25the
- 8:25day
- 8:25has.
- 8:26And
- 8:26then
- 8:26a
- 8:26few
- 8:26hours
- 8:27later,
- 8:28it's
- 8:28got
- 8:28something
- 8:28else
- 8:29for
- 8:29you.
- 8:30And
- 8:31it's
- 8:31just
- 8:32yeah,
- 8:32being.
- 8:33Being
- 8:33armed
- 8:34with
- 8:35things
- 8:35from
- 8:35a
- 8:364
- 8:36to
- 8:36an
- 8:368
- 8:37weight
- 8:37and,
- 8:39you
- 8:39know,
- 8:40your
- 8:40different
- 8:40lines
- 8:41and
- 8:41different
- 8:42fishing
- 8:42styles
- 8:43is
- 8:43just,
- 8:44it's
- 8:45very
- 8:45important.
- 8:47Yeah,
- 8:47it's
- 8:47interesting,
- 8:47right.
- 8:48We've
- 8:48talked
- 8:48about
- 8:48the
- 8:48mental
- 8:49game
- 8:49before
- 8:49and
- 8:49kind
- 8:49of
- 8:50having
- 8:50that
- 8:50musky
- 8:50mindset.
- 8:51Right.
- 8:51In
- 8:51terms
- 8:52of
- 8:52being
- 8:52prepared
- 8:53for,
- 8:53you
- 8:53know,
- 8:54not
- 8:5450
- 8:54fish,
- 8:55because
- 8:55if
- 8:55you
- 8:55wanted
- 8:5550
- 8:56fish,
- 8:56you
- 8:56could
- 8:56go
- 8:56get
- 8:56the
- 8:56periwinkle
- 8:57oros
- 8:57and
- 8:58float
- 8:58the
- 8:58river.
- 8:58Right.
- 9:00But.
- 9:00But
- 9:00the
- 9:00other
- 9:00thing
- 9:01too,
- 9:01that's
- 9:01kind
- 9:01of
- 9:01interesting,
- 9:02you
- 9:02know,
- 9:02for
- 9:02people
- 9:02that
- 9:03like
- 9:03to
- 9:03dry
- 9:03fly
- 9:04fish
- 9:04and
- 9:05like
- 9:05to
- 9:05streamer
- 9:05fish,
- 9:06you've
- 9:06really
- 9:06kind
- 9:06of
- 9:06dialed
- 9:07in
- 9:07the
- 9:07evening
- 9:07game.
- 9:07And
- 9:07we
- 9:08were
- 9:08talking
- 9:08before
- 9:08we
- 9:08started
- 9:08recording.
- 9:09You
- 9:09know,
- 9:09the
- 9:09great
- 9:09thing
- 9:10is,
- 9:10you
- 9:11know,
- 9:11most
- 9:11kind
- 9:11of
- 9:11like
- 9:12lodge
- 9:12outfitter
- 9:13trips,
- 9:13and
- 9:13this
- 9:13isn't
- 9:13just
- 9:14in
- 9:14your
- 9:14part
- 9:14of
- 9:14the
- 9:14world,
- 9:14this
- 9:14is
- 9:15kind
- 9:15of
- 9:15universally,
- 9:16you
- 9:16know,
- 9:16people
- 9:16are
- 9:17off
- 9:17the
- 9:17water
- 9:17by
- 9:174
- 9:18because
- 9:18they
- 9:18need
- 9:18to
- 9:18get
- 9:18back
- 9:18to
- 9:19wherever
- 9:19they're
- 9:19staying
- 9:19for
- 9:20cocktails
- 9:20and
- 9:20all
- 9:20that
- 9:20other
- 9:21stuff,
- 9:21which
- 9:21is
- 9:21great.
- 9:22But
- 9:22if
- 9:22you
- 9:23really
- 9:23want,
- 9:23you
- 9:23know,
- 9:23when
- 9:23you,
- 9:24you
- 9:24know,
- 9:24like,
- 9:24I
- 9:24can't
- 9:25even
- 9:25tell
- 9:25you
- 9:25the
- 9:25number
- 9:25of
- 9:25times
- 9:25I've
- 9:25been
- 9:26in
- 9:26Montana
- 9:26and
- 9:26you're
- 9:26coming
- 9:26off
- 9:27and
- 9:27like
- 9:27the
- 9:27heads
- 9:27are
- 9:28all
- 9:28over
- 9:28the
- 9:28place
- 9:28popping
- 9:29up
- 9:29and
- 9:29you
- 9:30really
- 9:30kind
- 9:30of
- 9:30are
- 9:30maximizing
- 9:31that
- 9:31window
- 9:32where
- 9:32that,
- 9:32that
- 9:33evening
- 9:33hatch
- 9:33activity
- 9:34is
- 9:34there
- 9:34and
- 9:35that
- 9:35transitions
- 9:35into
- 9:35the
- 9:36mousing
- 9:36in
- 9:36the
- 9:36night.
- 9:36And
- 9:37so
- 9:37you
- 9:37kind
- 9:37of
- 9:37get
- 9:37the
- 9:38best
- 9:38of
- 9:38all
- 9:38possible
- 9:39worlds.
- 9:39But
- 9:40also
- 9:40too,
- 9:40you
- 9:40don't
- 9:40have
- 9:40a
- 9:41lot
- 9:41of
- 9:41people
- 9:41on
- 9:41the
- 9:41water
- 9:41competing
- 9:42with
- 9:42you.
- 9:43Yeah.
- 9:44And
- 9:44we're
- 9:44not
- 9:45in
- 9:45low
- 9:45water.
- 9:46And
- 9:46so
- 9:47I've
- 9:48been
- 9:48thinking
- 9:48about
- 9:48this
- 9:49a
- 9:49lot
- 9:50for
- 9:50the
- 9:50last
- 9:50six
- 9:51years,
- 9:51and
- 9:53there
- 9:53are,
- 9:54I,
- 9:54I've
- 9:55said
- 9:55there
- 9:55are
- 9:56pros
- 9:56and
- 9:56cons
- 9:56with
- 9:57everything
- 9:57so
- 9:58many
- 9:58times,
- 9:58but
- 9:58I
- 9:59think
- 9:59it's
- 9:59important
- 9:59for
- 10:00each
- 10:01one
- 10:01of
- 10:01these
- 10:02different
- 10:02dynamics
- 10:03to
- 10:04acknowledge
- 10:04that,
- 10:07you
- 10:07know,
- 10:07for
- 10:07example,
- 10:08the,
- 10:08the
- 10:08guys
- 10:09getting
- 10:09off
- 10:09the
- 10:10water,
- 10:11like
- 10:11the
- 10:11anglers,
- 10:12the
- 10:12clients
- 10:12getting
- 10:12off
- 10:12the
- 10:13water
- 10:13at
- 10:134
- 10:13and
- 10:14going
- 10:14back
- 10:14to
- 10:14the
- 10:14lodge,
- 10:17it
- 10:17could
- 10:17very
- 10:18much
- 10:18be
- 10:18the
- 10:18case
- 10:18that
- 10:19they
- 10:20would
- 10:20not
- 10:20have
- 10:21any
- 10:21amount
- 10:22of
- 10:22fun
- 10:22in
- 10:22my
- 10:23boat.
- 10:23I
- 10:24strongly
- 10:24disagree
- 10:25with
- 10:25that
- 10:25idea.
- 10:25I
- 10:26think
- 10:26that
- 10:26you
- 10:26would
- 10:26have
- 10:27a
- 10:27great
- 10:27time,
- 10:29but
- 10:29it's
- 10:29just,
- 10:30it
- 10:30is
- 10:30different.
- 10:31And
- 10:35you
- 10:35know,
- 10:35starting
- 10:35at,
- 10:36starting
- 10:37at
- 10:374,
- 10:385,
- 10:386pm
- 10:38and,
- 10:39and
- 10:39getting
- 10:40off
- 10:40the
- 10:40water
- 10:40at
- 10:41somewhere
- 10:41between
- 10:41midnight
- 10:42and
- 10:42two
- 10:44or
- 10:44later.
- 10:46You
- 10:46know,
- 10:46I'm
- 10:47not
- 10:47going
- 10:47to
- 10:47say
- 10:47occasionally
- 10:48because
- 10:48it's
- 10:48a
- 10:48little
- 10:48more
- 10:48often
- 10:49than
- 10:49occasionally.
- 10:51Dude,
- 10:51it's
- 10:51hard.
- 10:52It's
- 10:52hard
- 10:52on
- 10:52your
- 10:53body.
- 10:53Like,
- 10:53I'm
- 10:5438.
- 10:54I,
- 10:55I
- 10:55want
- 10:55to
- 10:55say
- 10:55that
- 10:55I'm
- 10:56young
- 10:56but
- 10:56I'm
- 10:5638,
- 10:57I
- 10:57have
- 10:57three
- 10:57kids.
- 10:58It's
- 11:01being
- 11:01a
- 11:01good
- 11:02dad
- 11:02is
- 11:02really
- 11:03important
- 11:03to
- 11:03me.
- 11:04And
- 11:05I
- 11:05also
- 11:05have
- 11:05to
- 11:05tie
- 11:06flies
- 11:06and
- 11:07like
- 11:07I
- 11:07need
- 11:08a
- 11:08new
- 11:08seat
- 11:08for
- 11:09my
- 11:09boat
- 11:09so
- 11:10bad.
- 11:10So
- 11:10all
- 11:11of
- 11:11these
- 11:11other
- 11:11things,
- 11:12when
- 11:13you're
- 11:13like,
- 11:14yes,
- 11:14it's,
- 11:15you
- 11:15can
- 11:15say,
- 11:15well,
- 11:16you
- 11:16know,
- 11:16you
- 11:16know
- 11:17you're
- 11:17not
- 11:17starting
- 11:17until
- 11:184,
- 11:186pm
- 11:19that's
- 11:20not
- 11:20true.
- 11:20My
- 11:20day
- 11:21starts
- 11:21at
- 11:216:30.
- 11:22It
- 11:22doesn't
- 11:22matter
- 11:22when
- 11:23I
- 11:23get
- 11:23home.
- 11:24Um,
- 11:25I,
- 11:26I'm
- 11:26good
- 11:26at
- 11:26finding
- 11:27times
- 11:28to,
- 11:28to
- 11:28catch
- 11:29up
- 11:29on
- 11:29sleep
- 11:29if
- 11:29I
- 11:30need
- 11:30to,
- 11:30but
- 11:33it's,
- 11:33it's,
- 11:34it's
- 11:34hard.
- 11:34I
- 11:34mean
- 11:35that
- 11:35requires
- 11:35support
- 11:36from
- 11:37my
- 11:37girlfriend
- 11:38and
- 11:40you
- 11:40know,
- 11:42all
- 11:42of
- 11:42that
- 11:42stuff
- 11:43makes
- 11:43this,
- 11:44what
- 11:44I'm
- 11:45doing,
- 11:45a
- 11:47difficult
- 11:48copy
- 11:48and
- 11:48paste
- 11:50form
- 11:50of
- 11:51business.
- 11:52And
- 11:52so
- 11:52as
- 11:52an
- 11:53outfitter
- 11:53or
- 11:53as
- 11:53a
- 11:54lodge,
- 11:55when
- 11:55you
- 11:56are
- 11:56managing
- 11:5810,
- 11:5815,
- 11:5920
- 12:00guides,
- 12:01it's
- 12:01hard
- 12:01enough
- 12:01to
- 12:02do
- 12:02that
- 12:02and
- 12:02run
- 12:02an
- 12:038
- 12:03to
- 12:034
- 12:04and
- 12:04have
- 12:04everyone
- 12:05there
- 12:05on
- 12:05time
- 12:05and
- 12:06you
- 12:06know,
- 12:06make
- 12:06sure
- 12:06that
- 12:07everyone's
- 12:08this,
- 12:08that
- 12:08and
- 12:08the
- 12:08other.
- 12:09It's,
- 12:09I
- 12:09mean
- 12:09that's
- 12:10a
- 12:10business
- 12:10with
- 12:10a
- 12:10lot
- 12:10of
- 12:11employees.
- 12:13So
- 12:14to
- 12:14be
- 12:14able
- 12:14to,
- 12:15you
- 12:15know,
- 12:15offer
- 12:15the
- 12:16flexibility
- 12:16that
- 12:16I
- 12:17offer
- 12:17as
- 12:18the,
- 12:18the
- 12:18standalone
- 12:19business
- 12:19is
- 12:19just,
- 12:20that
- 12:20would
- 12:20be
- 12:21such
- 12:21a
- 12:21nightmare.
- 12:22And
- 12:22I'm
- 12:23trying
- 12:23to
- 12:23give
- 12:23credit
- 12:23where
- 12:24it's
- 12:24due
- 12:24because
- 12:24I
- 12:24know
- 12:25that
- 12:26grind
- 12:26is
- 12:27just
- 12:27different
- 12:27than
- 12:27my
- 12:27grind.
- 12:29But
- 12:29yeah,
- 12:30I
- 12:30think
- 12:30for
- 12:30the
- 12:30people
- 12:31who
- 12:32my
- 12:33stuff
- 12:33is
- 12:33for,
- 12:34it's
- 12:34like
- 12:35unmistakably
- 12:35and
- 12:36very
- 12:36much
- 12:36for
- 12:36them.
- 12:38And
- 12:38it's
- 12:38exactly
- 12:39for
- 12:39the
- 12:39reasons
- 12:40that
- 12:40you
- 12:40mentioned.
- 12:42We're
- 12:42putting
- 12:42on
- 12:43when
- 12:43we're
- 12:43seeing
- 12:43the
- 12:43heads
- 12:44come
- 12:44up
- 12:45and,
- 12:46and
- 12:46then
- 12:46we're,
- 12:47you
- 12:47know,
- 12:48we're
- 12:48catching
- 12:48big
- 12:48water
- 12:49and
- 12:50all
- 12:51summer,
- 12:52every
- 12:52day
- 12:52but
- 12:53Sunday
- 12:53we
- 12:54are
- 12:54fishing
- 12:56big
- 12:56water,
- 12:57going
- 12:58through
- 12:59shoots,
- 13:01hitting
- 13:01pockets
- 13:02in
- 13:02fast
- 13:02water,
- 13:05you
- 13:06know,
- 13:06fishing
- 13:06frog
- 13:06water,
- 13:07two
- 13:07handing
- 13:07changers,
- 13:10two
- 13:10handing
- 13:11Clousers
- 13:11and
- 13:11Kreelex
- 13:14if
- 13:14it's
- 13:14sunnier
- 13:14and
- 13:15clearer.
- 13:15And
- 13:15then
- 13:17seeing
- 13:17risers
- 13:18coming
- 13:18up
- 13:18and
- 13:18targeting
- 13:19those
- 13:19with
- 13:2118s
- 13:22and
- 13:2220s,
- 13:23throwing
- 13:23droppers
- 13:23off
- 13:24of
- 13:24those
- 13:24if
- 13:24they're
- 13:25coming
- 13:25up
- 13:25real
- 13:25subtly
- 13:27and
- 13:28then
- 13:28switching
- 13:28to
- 13:28the
- 13:28mousing
- 13:29game,
- 13:32it's
- 13:33just,
- 13:33it's
- 13:33so
- 13:33much
- 13:34fun
- 13:34and
- 13:34we
- 13:34have,
- 13:35you
- 13:35know,
- 13:35we
- 13:35have
- 13:36three
- 13:36or
- 13:36four
- 13:36months
- 13:36of
- 13:37it
- 13:37but
- 13:37like
- 13:38come
- 13:39September,
- 13:41come
- 13:41October,
- 13:42November,
- 13:42you
- 13:42know,
- 13:43we're
- 13:43not
- 13:44doing
- 13:44this.
- 13:44And
- 13:45so
- 13:46thankfully
- 13:47I
- 13:47have
- 13:47a
- 13:47number
- 13:48of
- 13:49clients
- 13:50who
- 13:50are,
- 13:50you
- 13:50know,
- 13:51they're
- 13:51coming
- 13:51to,
- 13:52to
- 13:52fish
- 13:52with
- 13:52me
- 13:53throughout
- 13:54the
- 13:54year
- 13:54and
- 13:54so
- 13:55they're
- 13:55getting
- 13:55a
- 13:55little
- 13:55taste
- 13:55of
- 13:56everything.
- 13:56But
- 13:58for
- 13:58folks
- 13:58really
- 13:59wanting
- 14:00to,
- 14:00to
- 14:00do
- 14:00this
- 14:01and
- 14:01maybe
- 14:02they're
- 14:02only
- 14:02doing
- 14:02it
- 14:02once
- 14:03a
- 14:03year,
- 14:06I
- 14:06I
- 14:06would
- 14:07so
- 14:08heavily
- 14:08encourage
- 14:09folks
- 14:09to
- 14:09be
- 14:09getting
- 14:09here
- 14:10sometime
- 14:11in
- 14:11the
- 14:11July,
- 14:12August
- 14:13timeframe.
- 14:15So
- 14:16we
- 14:16can,
- 14:16we
- 14:17can
- 14:17fish
- 14:17big
- 14:17water
- 14:18mouse
- 14:19a
- 14:19little
- 14:19bit,
- 14:19whatever.
- 14:20And
- 14:21we
- 14:21always
- 14:21make
- 14:21it
- 14:21happen
- 14:22throughout
- 14:22the
- 14:22year.
- 14:22But
- 14:23this
- 14:23is
- 14:24just
- 14:24it.
- 14:24It's
- 14:25pretty
- 14:25special
- 14:25to
- 14:25be
- 14:25able
- 14:26to
- 14:26fish
- 14:27streamers,
- 14:27fish
- 14:27dry
- 14:28flies,
- 14:29mouse,
- 14:30have
- 14:31shot
- 14:31striper,
- 14:34really
- 14:35show
- 14:35off
- 14:35everything
- 14:36the
- 14:36tailwaters
- 14:37have
- 14:37to
- 14:37offer.
- 14:38Yeah,
- 14:39it's
- 14:39really
- 14:39a
- 14:39season
- 14:39within
- 14:40a
- 14:40season.
- 14:40So
- 14:40if
- 14:40folks
- 14:41want
- 14:41to
- 14:41get
- 14:41in
- 14:41touch
- 14:41and
- 14:41get
- 14:42on
- 14:42the
- 14:42boat,
- 14:42how
- 14:42should
- 14:42they
- 14:43do
- 14:43that?
- 14:44Best
- 14:44way
- 14:45to
- 14:45do
- 14:45that
- 14:45is
- 14:45my
- 14:45Cell
- 14:46phone
- 14:46at
- 14:46513-543-0019.
- 14:52You
- 14:52can
- 14:53get
- 14:53some
- 14:53more
- 14:53information.
- 14:55And
- 14:56I'd
- 14:56say
- 14:56Instagram,
- 14:57I'm
- 14:57on
- 14:57there
- 14:58as
- 14:59@EllisWardguides,
- 15:02is
- 15:02a
- 15:03little
- 15:03more
- 15:03up
- 15:03to
- 15:03date
- 15:04as
- 15:05I
- 15:05sit
- 15:05here
- 15:05looking
- 15:06at
- 15:06my
- 15:07computer
- 15:07screen,
- 15:09doing
- 15:09some
- 15:10site
- 15:10work.
- 15:11But
- 15:12website,
- 15:12you
- 15:12can
- 15:13get
- 15:13more
- 15:13information,
- 15:14rates,
- 15:15location,
- 15:16whatever
- 15:17that
- 15:17is.
- 15:18Elliswardflies
- 15:19dot
- 15:19com.
- 15:20There
- 15:20you
- 15:21go.
- 15:21And
- 15:21I'd
- 15:21say
- 15:21a
- 15:21couple
- 15:21things,
- 15:22folks.
- 15:22You
- 15:22know,
- 15:22if
- 15:22you
- 15:22have
- 15:22a
- 15:22question
- 15:23for
- 15:23Ellis
- 15:23DM
- 15:24or
- 15:25email
- 15:25me
- 15:25and
- 15:26if
- 15:26we
- 15:26use
- 15:26your
- 15:26question,
- 15:27I
- 15:27will
- 15:27send
- 15:27you
- 15:27some
- 15:28articulate
- 15:28fly
- 15:28swag
- 15:29and
- 15:29some
- 15:29butcher
- 15:29shop
- 15:29swag
- 15:30and
- 15:30you're
- 15:30drawing
- 15:31for
- 15:31some
- 15:31cool
- 15:31stuff
- 15:31from
- 15:31Ellis
- 15:32at
- 15:32the
- 15:32end
- 15:32of
- 15:32the
- 15:32season.
- 15:33And
- 15:33we
- 15:33love
- 15:33questions.
- 15:34And
- 15:34the
- 15:34other
- 15:34thing
- 15:34I
- 15:34would
- 15:34say
- 15:35too
- 15:35is
- 15:35if
- 15:35you
- 15:35like
- 15:35the
- 15:35podcast
- 15:36and
- 15:36if
- 15:36you
- 15:36like
- 15:36the
- 15:37fishing
- 15:37report,
- 15:37you
- 15:38know,
- 15:38please
- 15:38subscribe,
- 15:39tell
- 15:39a
- 15:40friend,
- 15:40leave
- 15:40us
- 15:40a
- 15:41rating
- 15:41and
- 15:41review
- 15:41because
- 15:41all
- 15:42that
- 15:42stuff,
- 15:42and
- 15:42particularly
- 15:43in
- 15:43the
- 15:43age
- 15:43of
- 15:43AI,
- 15:43is
- 15:44super
- 15:44important.
- 15:45And
- 15:45I
- 15:45would
- 15:46say
- 15:46too,
- 15:46you
- 15:46know,
- 15:47you
- 15:47gotta
- 15:48fish.
- 15:48So
- 15:48I
- 15:48would
- 15:48encourage
- 15:49you
- 15:49guys
- 15:49to
- 15:49get
- 15:49out
- 15:49there
- 15:49and
- 15:49catch
- 15:50a
- 15:50few.
- 15:50Tight
- 15:51lines,
- 15:51everybody.
- 15:52Tight
- 15:52lines.
- 15:52Ellis.
- 15:53Appreciate
- 15:54it,
- 15:54Marv.